New Tesla Model 3 Performance Top Speed & Extreme Thermal Stress Test! Yikes, Improvements Needed

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • Kyle, Vanessa, and Moritz take the new Tesla Model 3 Performance Highland Refresh (euro spec w/ LG battery) on an adventure to hit the top speed on a derestricted section of Germany Autobahn! They battle thermal issues, traffic, and more but eventually do hit the top speed and end up absolutely overheating the entire car. Join them as they evaluate not just the acceleration or straight line performance, but also the thermal performance of the vehicle.
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Комментарии • 706

  • @jgardiner2010
    @jgardiner2010 Месяц назад +107

    Wth! Did the airline lose his luggage? Where's the sweatshirt?

    • @TNitroH
      @TNitroH Месяц назад +1

      He has on a white hoodie here

    • @SparkySho
      @SparkySho Месяц назад +1

      All to information Kyle provides an YALL want to diss his wardrobe.Resist the temptation to worry about the wrong sheet

  • @martinekstrom6303
    @martinekstrom6303 Месяц назад +38

    Kyle can completely nerd out in Germany, they totally get him in spite of the language barrier.

  • @MarsPLAYStudio
    @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +40

    7:34 What i immediatally noticed is that in Track Mode there is not an option like "overclock cooling compressor " like it is on the pre Highland Performance Modle 3.
    On the old Model 3 it overclocked the cooling compressor and loop before starting your drive.

    • @nononsenseBennett
      @nononsenseBennett Месяц назад +4

      Interesting. Someone needs to compile a list of the changes that affect the cars through their production range.

    • @Maarten_vd
      @Maarten_vd Месяц назад

      Exactly!

    • @teslafynn
      @teslafynn Месяц назад

      yeah

    • @pickalots
      @pickalots Месяц назад +1

      so the system might need more capacity... sounds like an opportunity

    • @carterlongcor3233
      @carterlongcor3233 Месяц назад

      That wasn't an option on my 2022 m3p I think it's all maxed out automatically.

  • @alexnutcasio936
    @alexnutcasio936 Месяц назад +145

    Just so we’re clear, this is the EU, AU and NZ models of Model 3 Performance. This is not what they’re seeing in US.

    • @nathansuss
      @nathansuss Месяц назад +14

      That's what I'm thinking, I wonder how different they perform with thermals

    • @gforcefabi
      @gforcefabi Месяц назад +35

      @@nathansusspanasonic battery in America is a lot better than the lg one. Reku and performance here in europe is also worse

    • @alexgruia88
      @alexgruia88 Месяц назад +14

      And that makes it ok or what? This is Tesla's biggest flop. Better get a LR.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 Месяц назад +17

      Teslafans quickly countersteer to issues in the comments 😂

    • @nathansuss
      @nathansuss Месяц назад +22

      @@dantethomas7964 we're literally criticizing the EU version for being worse than the US version, what are you smoking

  • @t.d.5804
    @t.d.5804 Месяц назад +24

    Had 3 M3P over the years here in Germany. There were only a handful of chances VMax them. Speed limits, construction, traffic. The early 2019 Panasonic battery was great, the later LG isnt. Same with the stock tires, later ones were more efficient, but had no grip. Vmax of +155mph or 261kph was limited to a minute or so, the car then slowed down. One trick pony, thats not what other cars do (sadly, ICE cars). The P ist just a sticker. Great car, but I switched to a MY SR. Its fast enough with 217kph on todays Autobahn and traffic

    • @essentials1016
      @essentials1016 29 дней назад +1

      I can go Vmax almost everyday! You are definetely doing something wrong.

  • @Fuentes6544
    @Fuentes6544 Месяц назад +36

    You know it’s gonna be a good video when Kyle doesn’t have a jacket on LMAOOO

  • @cordkretzschmar5693
    @cordkretzschmar5693 Месяц назад +5

    Their was a time the ADAC (general german automobil club) recommend to use the left turn light, to gently signal you want to pass. So older people with enough money to buy a Mercedes, BMW or Audi still follow this advise. 😇 Nice to see you all.

  • @dashercammmmmmm
    @dashercammmmmmm Месяц назад +8

    I’m so glad I have an American made 2023 Performance. It is the best car I have ever owned. Thanks for another great video, Kyle!!

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад

      great video? Not so sure.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 8 дней назад

      Not seeing thermal problems because there aren't deregulated roads. Look to the tracks and you will find the same issues

  • @AnkushNarula
    @AnkushNarula Месяц назад +5

    Thanks for your amazing coverage of all things EV!

  • @sg222
    @sg222 Месяц назад +28

    Why can't it show exact temperature values in track mode? Why does it have to be stupid bars. So vague

    • @kenion2166
      @kenion2166 Месяц назад +7

      Cause Temperature is different for each battery chemistry, so °C is not always the same even in the same car

    • @SturbokSensei
      @SturbokSensei Месяц назад +2

      Cause it's Tesla so f'uck you thats why. Did it take them 2 or 3 years to make wipers work properly?

    • @lennyschmalisch7439
      @lennyschmalisch7439 Месяц назад +1

      I think it’s also due to the temperature curve not being linear. As the temperature in the cells, cables, motors etc. rise the resistance goes up too. Pushing a lot of amps through an already hot system will heat it up even faster which will make harder to estimate you’re actual thermal headroom. That’s why I think they went for these more linear easy to understand bars that on quick glance tell you how much performance headroom you actually have left.

    • @lennyschmalisch7439
      @lennyschmalisch7439 Месяц назад +1

      Although real temperatures next to bars would be very nice too of course

  • @stanleyfung5529
    @stanleyfung5529 Месяц назад +7

    Kyle: Let's not make this a super long video
    Proceeds to make a one hour video

    • @tedhancock68
      @tedhancock68 Месяц назад +2

      Short by OOS standards!

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 Месяц назад

      Makes one wonder about all the wonderful moments left on "the cutting room floor". 🙄

  • @sg222
    @sg222 Месяц назад +70

    As someone from Germany the video is quite important for me. And I have to say it is unfortunately not cut for German Autobahns😅

    • @callsaul8835
      @callsaul8835 Месяц назад +13

      @@sg222 das Verhalten hier ist bei mir bisher noch nicht im "realen" Autobahn Einsatz passiert. Kurzes Stück 120er Zone und der Akku ist wieder optimal temperiert. Tesla sollte das allerdings trotzdem mal ausführlich untersuchen. Bei einer Performance Variante darf das nicht limitieren.

    • @gustavgyll3291
      @gustavgyll3291 Месяц назад +4

      Many Europeans drive on autobahn regularly. So it’s a flop to release this in Europe. I live in Sweden and drive to southern Europe or the alps 1-3 times a year. Driving hard on the autobahn is the whole point of taking the car instead of flying. After this I would buy the M3P…

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад

      ruclips.net/video/PcAEy0hmC08/видео.html

  • @Speedlimitreviews
    @Speedlimitreviews Месяц назад +12

    Omfg! Kyle without a HOODIE!! 😂🔥🔥🔥 things are about to get spicy!

    • @TNitroH
      @TNitroH Месяц назад

      It's a white hoodie

  • @paulkitchen5802
    @paulkitchen5802 Месяц назад +8

    So, I may be biased but one reason I purchased the EV6GT was your similar video last summer because you ripped the Kia in Germany and it held up and never overheated. Is that correct Kyle? I drove from ATL 100 mph to Florida and charged at 237 KWH almost the entire 20 min from 10% to 80% and it was 95 degrees out. I'm so happy I have the best EV for the money.

    • @origaminefretami3480
      @origaminefretami3480 Месяц назад +4

      Nice car. The Kia looks much better than the Model 3 too. Better allrounder

    • @mowensmd
      @mowensmd 27 дней назад

      @@origaminefretami3480 Cheap plastic everywhere in the Kia. Seats suck.

    • @origaminefretami3480
      @origaminefretami3480 27 дней назад

      @@mowensmd its not like a Tesla is any better or a luxury vehicle

  • @MarsPLAYStudio
    @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +7

    23:46 What i noticed is that in italy and france people use the indicator to signal they want to pass and please move over. And you know what the cars in front of the one who want to pass do?
    They move over.

    • @techbysteff4829
      @techbysteff4829 Месяц назад

      Ibve noticed it ion Italy, Portugal, Greece and Germany, not Ireland tho, so it's pretty much a European thing I think.

    • @MarsPLAYStudio
      @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад

      @@techbysteff4829 in Germany yes but not so often and moreover the person in front doesn’t move over and feels personally attacked.
      In south Europa people just move over if they see someone faster with their indicator behind them and just let them pass

  • @jonfrench7133
    @jonfrench7133 7 дней назад +1

    Amazing response on here. I’ve had plenty of performance cars and would never track them, tyre death and risk of ending up in the kitty litter is too high.
    So track performance is irrelevant, the joy of the m3p is in road speed, handling and ride comfort.

  • @Martin-dx5zs
    @Martin-dx5zs Месяц назад +9

    Are you planning on test driving the EX30 twin motor performance while you’re next in Europe? We love ours!

  • @calvorota74
    @calvorota74 Месяц назад +3

    I have had a new M3 Performance since two weeks ago. I picked up the car, and I did a 700km Tryp diving at 140/150 constantly, some times a little bit faster. And yes, the engine and oil temps were higher than the ones in my old performance. The LG battery is the same. Somehow, it doesn't manage the engine temp as well as the old one. What a same.

    • @nomansland120
      @nomansland120 Месяц назад

      Oil temps?

    • @excusemenot
      @excusemenot Месяц назад

      @@nomansland120 Yep. Even an electric motor needs a lubricant ;)

    • @calvorota74
      @calvorota74 Месяц назад

      @@nomansland120 I don’t know, just a red engine temp, when I put track mode. I did it, because the fans were working.

    • @killr0y
      @killr0y Месяц назад

      There is no oil temp

  • @yayinternets
    @yayinternets Месяц назад +14

    You can push past the thermal capabilities of a Model Y just driving it on the highway in the Summer in Texas. They definitely do not have enough cooling in their whole platform. The Y was unusable for me during the day on the highway there last Summer during a heat wave.
    At highway speeds, you would think they would find a way to take advantage of all of the air whooshing by for cooling by directing some of it.

    • @USAHD1844
      @USAHD1844 Месяц назад +1

      Which Model Y? And what was the temp? Temp maxes around 86F where im at, this an issue for MY?

    • @yayinternets
      @yayinternets Месяц назад +1

      @@USAHD1844It was a Model Y LR. I think the temp was somewhere around 105 which isn’t uncommon in TX, AZ, etc. I couldn’t make it to my next stop on a road trip because the range went down to around 120.
      Had to park for hours and wait until the sun was down to keep going. I was in the middle of nowhere retuning to Colorado after being in San Antonio and didn’t have enough range to continue… even after disabling AC, etc.

    • @kenhiett5266
      @kenhiett5266 Месяц назад +3

      I didn't have any problems with my '23 MYLR between Salt Lake and Vegas in nearly record hot temperatures. What year and type of Y are you having these thermal management issues with?

    • @yayinternets
      @yayinternets Месяц назад +1

      @@kenhiett5266 2022 Y LR. I’ve driven a lot of miles in Colorado and Kansas and never had any issues. However, in TX l, it just got hammered by the heat there. It’s way more humid there, so I’m guessing that was part of the issue.
      Who knows, maybe they’ve made some changes since they have a large employee base in Austin now. But it really shook my confidence in driving through very rural areas in the Y when it’s hot.
      This was also before they made updates to the range calculations after the US government got involved with that. Part of the problem is that the range estimates were like 2X what it was actually doing in that heat. I would have gotten stranded if I wasn’t watching how quickly it was draining.

  • @philaoki
    @philaoki Месяц назад +2

    if i'm not mistaken, by mid 2022 tesla started shipping the euro performance with the LG battery already. it's not like they suddenly took the panasonic away with the refresh now.

  • @MrSnowmobiling
    @MrSnowmobiling Месяц назад +2

    Sorry to see the global spec m3p struggling like this. For those worried, the US spec seems to do better. Hit top speed (163mph) while at 23% battery on a test road. (Closed to public)
    Slight power limit but still hit top speed. I'd imagine it would do 180ish if it wasn't limited. Took 23 seconds, full throttle to go from 123 to 163 at that battery %. Probably would do it in 15-17 seconds at 80+ battery.

  • @joebullwinkle5099
    @joebullwinkle5099 Месяц назад +26

    Unfortunately the new model 3 Perf is quite a disappointment when compared to other EV performance variants, Ionia 5 N has non of these issues. Other reviewers have shown how the brakes are cooked almost immediately followed soon after by an overheating battery at the Nuremberg ring. Why bother with a Track a mode, when it’s essentially useless at a track!

    • @senadhasanbasic260
      @senadhasanbasic260 Месяц назад +6

      Tesla just has a track mode so it has a track mode. Its no use, but it sounds cool i guess.

    • @wonderboy75
      @wonderboy75 Месяц назад

      @@senadhasanbasic260 for the same reason the Cybertruck is an offroad vehicle then?

    • @nomansland120
      @nomansland120 Месяц назад +4

      Then you should buy a Hyundai 5 N lol

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад +2

      evidence suggests it may be worse than useless...that the non-track mode is actually better at managing heat.

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts Месяц назад +1

      New taycan albeit not cheap as it's a luxury car also doesn't have these issues. I think the taycan justifies it's price though as it's easily the best looking EV sedan on the market and has the best quality control and interior quality.

  • @fiehlsport
    @fiehlsport Месяц назад +9

    Out of Spec Threads - Fresh hoodie, Kyle!!

    • @TNitroH
      @TNitroH Месяц назад

      Kyle rockin the white hoodie!

  • @teitpoulsen7183
    @teitpoulsen7183 Месяц назад +21

    My Plaid has zero thernal issues when I RIP on the german Autobahn. Disappointed that the M3P thermal particular with LG pack is not able to provide sustained power. Even if thats really not an actual problem in 99.99% of driving situations 😂😅

    • @danielbukowski
      @danielbukowski Месяц назад +6

      Because your Plaid was made in the US and got the Panasonic battery.

    • @nabushdinosaure
      @nabushdinosaure Месяц назад +6

      @@teitpoulsen7183 Plaid is still very thermally limited though... It's a 1-2 laps car on a roadcourse...I have one as well...

    • @senadhasanbasic260
      @senadhasanbasic260 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@nabushdinosaureThx for the honesty, no one dares to talk about that

    • @chadmueller9135
      @chadmueller9135 Месяц назад

      ​@@senadhasanbasic260people do talk rarely about issues from Teslas because they get drowned from the downplaying of the Tesla investors in comment sections.

    • @gustavgyll3291
      @gustavgyll3291 Месяц назад +1

      @@nabushdinosaureworks great on the autobahn! Only hade the Model S but driving between 150-240km/h (100-150mph) for long periods is not an issue with any of the variants of the Model S. And with the plain Model S you still got more power then you need over 200km/h.

  • @iambenmitchell
    @iambenmitchell Месяц назад +19

    Yep, plenty of people in Europe have taken the new car on a track and it overheats by the 2nd lap. It didn’t even last 1/3rd the Nürburgring.
    Edit: UK track video Thruxton: ruclips.net/video/M6_LN0uzPZY/видео.html
    Misha: ruclips.net/video/0tdhYevUGwM/видео.html

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +11

      Its not build for tracks, its a grocery getter.

    • @tylovset
      @tylovset Месяц назад +16

      It's disappointing. Two years ago Misha drove the Polestar 2 Performance and had no issues with a full lap on the Nürnburgring.

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +9

      @@tylovset the 2.4 ton Lucid with FOUR PEOPLE in it manages over one lap of hard driving without frying the brakes and overheating.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 Месяц назад +10

      Hence why the Ioniq 5N is better.

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 Месяц назад +10

      Wow that is poor, still got those awful brakes too? Definitely not up to European standards.

  • @sandroschtolpe6803
    @sandroschtolpe6803 Месяц назад +35

    Overheating from such short autobahn burst is pretty embarassing for a brandnew car. Holy shit.

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад

      ruclips.net/video/PcAEy0hmC08/видео.html

    • @sandroschtolpe6803
      @sandroschtolpe6803 Месяц назад

      @@dangrass okay so?

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад +4

      ...and not at all consistent with what other RUclips testing has revealed. From what I can see those who do Autobahn testing with this car using the normal mode don't seem to run into the thermal issues that seem to be plaguing those who use track mode. Based on this I'm beginning to think that there is something wrong with the track mode software for this car....which is good, because Tesla might be able to fix it easily. The brakes, on the other hand, need to be better. It's almost as though they shipped cars with the wrong pads.

    • @sandroschtolpe6803
      @sandroschtolpe6803 Месяц назад +1

      @@dangrass hmmm, but how can a certain mode be responsible for this?

    • @theipc-twizzt2789
      @theipc-twizzt2789 Месяц назад +1

      @@sandroschtolpe6803Track mode heats the battery up to around 40°C so it can get its peak performance. Unfortunately that also causes it to thermal throttle faster.
      The US version does not have this problem, as the Pana battery gets the performance at lower temps.

  • @AaronMcFarland
    @AaronMcFarland Месяц назад +6

    I can't even imagine driving 250 kmh (155 mph) on the highway. Guess the luxury you get living near the Autobahn.

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +2

      You can for a few minutes but with traffic density it is still quite a dangerous thing to do. certainly not going to drive for miles and miles like this.

    • @chadmueller9135
      @chadmueller9135 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@user-os1nh7xq1zIts clear you never went to the Autobahn, and just try to downplay the fact that this 'performance' car overheats after a short Autobahn run. Nice try bro 😂

    • @gustavgyll3291
      @gustavgyll3291 Месяц назад

      @@user-os1nh7xq1znot during the day at least. Nighttime in northern Germany you can. The stretch from Danmark Hamburg is pretty empty at night.

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +1

      @@chadmueller9135 I lived in Düsseldorf for 6 years and in Hanover for 3. I know my Autobahns!

    • @carterlongcor3233
      @carterlongcor3233 Месяц назад

      Use to do it everywhere I went in the US with my 22 m3p

  • @toddmarrs8916
    @toddmarrs8916 8 дней назад

    Sounds like they upgraded the motor without upgrading the battery or the cooling system. so at max output, it produces heat faster than it can cool itself. It cools at the same rate, but heats up the battery a little faster due to the larger motor pulling a little more power.

  • @Dqtube
    @Dqtube Месяц назад +18

    15:38 I am not sure about that, as the new KIA EV6 GT currently sells for 55k-60k euros in Germany and other markets in the region. If you don't need a brand new one, but a 2023 one from the showroom with a few thousand km on the odometer is not a problem for you, we're talking 49k-52k euros. Also in the US there are some good deals on this car @TechnicallyJeff got one a few months ago.

    • @kenion2166
      @kenion2166 Месяц назад +1

      An EV6 GT is 75.000€ we need to compare apples vs apples not some random dealer used car prices...

    • @Dqtube
      @Dqtube Месяц назад

      @@kenion2166 No, it's not. Look at the prices at dealers( just Google for example: ‘Ernst Dello’ , ‘Autoarena Ingolstadt’, ‘Autohaus Daub’). They are trying to sell out of stock before the facelifted version comes to Europe next spring. So next time, do me a favor and spend at least 5 seconds with Google before replying.

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +7

      EV6 looks waaaay better too, inside out.

    • @D00MINIK
      @D00MINIK Месяц назад +1

      Yes the Kia is a cool car but in Germany 75k and Model 3 P 59k. Actually even the normal Awd EV6 with 325hp is more expensive than the Tesla on higher speeds and not even faster than a SR+ for 43k (but much faster to 40mph), so you cannot really compare these, and you don't get electric seats in the Ev6 Gt and the ioniq 5 N. This is sadly a no go for me although I think they did a pretty good job with these cars.

    • @Dqtube
      @Dqtube Месяц назад

      @@D00MINIK No, it's not. Look at the prices at dealers. They are trying to sell out of stock before the facelifted version comes to Europe next spring. Use Google or any German car listing site( Mobile, Autoscout ) and you will find the various showrooms/ dealers with the prices I wrote in the original post. The situation is similar in the Czech Republic, where you'll find a €57k-60k offering including tax at official Kia dealers and a used one with up to 15k km on the odometer costs around €52k .

  • @perezdr1
    @perezdr1 Месяц назад +1

    Even as a new M3P owner who might never track the car... I'm also concerned about temperature management -- battery and motors primarily, as brakes should be upgraded anyway, and I think that the braking updates in a car that is going to the track are expected. I'm glad Kyle got his eye on it; I'm sure we will get more videos and updates. Hopefully, a software update, even if the car is still limited on hardware, can make it more manageable...

  • @alexgruia88
    @alexgruia88 Месяц назад +20

    Bro stop it with "your normal user won't experience this" crap. Its a Performance spec, it has a damn track mode, it should be capable of doing at least one damn lap at top specs...

    • @safakhan3088
      @safakhan3088 Месяц назад +5

      Its an american car, he is american. That answers your question.

    • @Dqtube
      @Dqtube Месяц назад

      @@safakhan3088 More precisely, it's a South African car made in China.

    • @chadmueller9135
      @chadmueller9135 Месяц назад

      ​@@DqtubeElon is MAGA now, thats why americans love his cars now so much.

  • @igneousc
    @igneousc Месяц назад +4

    Vanessa rules, great vid!

  • @ramontbooker5654
    @ramontbooker5654 Месяц назад +1

    😂 racing like a giant RC car

  • @ALRinaldi
    @ALRinaldi Месяц назад +13

    I wish we had an autobahn in the US... I'd even pay a toll for it... :(

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +13

      US Drivers just aren't skilled enough to drive roads like these in general. Well, perhaps skilled is not the word...maybe tolerant or aware.

    • @yayinternets
      @yayinternets Месяц назад +9

      @@user-os1nh7xq1zDefinitely not skilled enough. Germany also inspects cars each year to make sure they are roadworthy.
      I’ve been on the autobahn before but it was quite some time ago.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations Месяц назад +4

      You US drivers are not even close to good enough for that.
      Road fatalities is multiple times higher per capita in the US compared to Germany. Your driver's license tests are an absolute joke.

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +3

      @@swecreations While the best US drivers will have no problems with the best German drivers, in general German drivers are better

    • @timhabich3113
      @timhabich3113 Месяц назад

      @@yayinternets New Car after 3 Years then 2 years.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast Месяц назад +9

    I wonder if it is the European Lg battery that has the temperature issues? I ran 10.63 @ 128 mph for the 1/4 mile this weekend. Temps at the track were well over 100 degrees F and I ran six 10 second passes with no heating issues at all. In fact I was heating the battery the whole time. No issues at all.

    • @Mamba310
      @Mamba310 Месяц назад +7

      Same here. No issues whatsoever w the US version. I think it’s the EU version

    • @RoyalDudeness
      @RoyalDudeness Месяц назад +8

      It makes a huge different if you need all the power for seconds from the battery or for minutes

    • @WJYK
      @WJYK Месяц назад +10

      Look at the track videos for US cars. It overheats pretty easily too. Not a track attack car at all.

    • @SiuLeung
      @SiuLeung Месяц назад +9

      @@RoyalDudeness exactly, people think dragging the car for 11 seconds is the same as full speed runs for a few minutes. LOL. This is where Hyundai did their homework with N's thermals.

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +5

      So apparently you have the fastest 1/4 time for a 2024 M3P in the world. You might want to put up a video with that ticket!!

  • @mateokovac2642
    @mateokovac2642 Месяц назад +12

    Its funny how you downplay 'using performance' in a car called Model 3 Performance just because its a Tesla, 'no normal user will experience this'. The EV promotion nowadays is absolutely insane. If someone would test a Bmw M3 and it would overheat on a Autobahn run it would get a recall immediately.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 Месяц назад +3

      They always have to downplay issues to keep the hype high. He literally tests the car on a road millions of people use everyday and he says no one will experience this 😂

  • @danielbukowski
    @danielbukowski Месяц назад +42

    I can’t grasp how Kia/Hyundai kicks Teslas ass in battery temperature management… Come on, Tesla… 🤦‍♂️

    • @hasangenc2922
      @hasangenc2922 Месяц назад +7

      Why not?

    • @ChuckvdL
      @ChuckvdL Месяц назад +6

      With regard to heat, the higher voltage architecture helps a bunch. At the same KW level the E-GMP cars need half the current, heat is a _current squared_ equation, so .5 amps means .25 heat.
      But there’s also huge differences in cell, pack, and cooling designs as well. I wouldn’t have thought that edge cooled pouches via the bottom-plate would work as well as it apparently does compared to side cooled cylinders, but it appears to work pretty well in practice.

    • @iamnid
      @iamnid Месяц назад +3

      US version might be better -- he says right from the top the Euro-spec gets a different battery from China.

    • @ChuckvdL
      @ChuckvdL Месяц назад +2

      @@iamnid we know the Tesla has a different battery, that’s literally the reason for the test. Are you implying the 5N gets a different battery in Europe?
      I haven’t seen anything saying that. AFAIK it’s the same battery both places for the 5N.
      But between the Tesla and Hyundai the battery design is completely different. Tesla likes a cylindrical “jelly roll in a can” cell, (with varying sized cylinders) and Hyundai is using much larger “layer cake on its side” pouches assembled into a larger module that confines the pouches. The pack cooling designs are also very different, Tesla likes to weave stuff between cells serpentine style, and Hyundai likes a stir welded big bottom plate contacting the edge of the pouches.
      Two very different approaches
      Munro Live has done teardowns of both packs and their cooling designs.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 Месяц назад

      Atleast Tesla still has the best stock pumpers for marketing and promotion

  • @Enosh7815
    @Enosh7815 Месяц назад +1

    LG (NCM) batteries are also applied to the Porsche Taycan Turbo. Products released in the US naturally use US-produced Panasonic batteries (NCA) for subsidies. Of course, it may have used a much cheaper battery than the Porsche, but I think the battery manufacturer's warranty on the C rate also factors into the output limit.
    What I'm really curious about here is that NCA is better than NCM in terms of output limit, but the lifespan is also unstable. No matter how hard you search, it's hard to find criticism of Tesla's SOH, but I can't tell if it's because there really isn't a problem or if it's just Teslaboys blinding them.

  • @safakhan3088
    @safakhan3088 Месяц назад +21

    A Performance car not build for the tracks and simple Autobahn runs. Okay. Good thing its a Tesla, any other brand would get a shitstorm for this.

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад

      ruclips.net/video/PcAEy0hmC08/видео.html

  • @logtec1162
    @logtec1162 Месяц назад +20

    Musk should answer why cooling is so bad on Tesla cars. It’s the biggest issue I have with Teslas. Nobody speaks about it

    • @Tschacki_Quacki
      @Tschacki_Quacki Месяц назад +4

      I give you a hint, why nobody speaks about it:
      speed limits

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +10

      As if Musk gives a shit as long as people buy Teslas

    • @stevesute
      @stevesute Месяц назад +1

      Everyone is talking about it, have you seen everyone with the Shanghai version overheating on RUclips

    • @Stockmonger4u
      @Stockmonger4u Месяц назад +3

      @@Tschacki_Quackiit’s a PERFORMANCE car. Overheating at speed should not be happening. If ICE cars half the price can cruise at high speeds without issue, so can a 2014 Model 3 Performance. The fact car entered manufacturing with such temperature management issues is shocking. Did they think you wouldn’t use a performance car for performance driving?

    • @UgglemannenFTW
      @UgglemannenFTW Месяц назад

      The brakes are inadequate aswell....​@@Stockmonger4u

  • @gcvr
    @gcvr Месяц назад +6

    2021 Model 3 Performance with the Panasonic eats the new Highland M3P below 60% SOC, and it eats it on track after 5 minutes when the Highland cuts power to combat the heat. The EU M3P in practice regressed, although on paper it seems better.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations Месяц назад +1

      I would say in practice it's better too, no regular person who doesn't go on track or Autobahn will experience this, and everywhere else like handling, suspension and build quality it's much better.

    • @gcvr
      @gcvr Месяц назад +1

      @@swecreationsthen that person can better buy the Long Range

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations Месяц назад

      @@gcvr Most people buy the Performance for the straight-line acceleration, and it still does that better than the Long Range.

    • @jonfrench7133
      @jonfrench7133 7 дней назад

      oh highland is definitely the one to go for

  • @jonben42
    @jonben42 Месяц назад

    This video is worth it for the last 15 mins or so discussion at the charger, get these guys on for a podcast!

  • @juergenheymann6362
    @juergenheymann6362 Месяц назад +8

    You can change language 😅

  • @parkerwatts3334
    @parkerwatts3334 Месяц назад +4

    The thermal management system, as I understood it, in Tesla is a thermal sharing... It prioritizes cooling the battery and uses the motor to hold excess heat while it tries to deal with the heat etc...

    • @parkerd5479
      @parkerd5479 Месяц назад +1

      Came here to say this.

    • @TAD-9
      @TAD-9 Месяц назад

      So basically it dumps heat into the motors because they can take the heat?

    • @parkerwatts3334
      @parkerwatts3334 Месяц назад +1

      Yes but not limited to that, in winter the motors will run so they generate extra heat and that heat is transfered to the battery

  • @garydmercer
    @garydmercer Месяц назад

    You are insane driving those speeds on a highway. lol. I was grabbing my chair tight watching this. Hilarious.

    • @ChuckvdL
      @ChuckvdL Месяц назад +1

      The Autobahn is not just any highway..

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas Месяц назад +3

    Need this test with an Ioniq 5 N

    • @1971joseramirez
      @1971joseramirez Месяц назад +2

      If it can do a couple of consecutive laps in the ring without power degradation, then you know it will handle this like a Champ.

  • @mike_man9593
    @mike_man9593 Месяц назад +10

    Love my US version. Only issue is a few rattles have started on the passenger side going over bumps after 2 days of ownership 😢

    • @littlemoneymark
      @littlemoneymark Месяц назад +5

      Does quality control just not exist…..🫤

    • @Ben21756
      @Ben21756 Месяц назад +2

      @@littlemoneymark Not sure what is going on with US factories, but Germany and China seems to be doing fine with their quality control…

  • @gregorkamensek3923
    @gregorkamensek3923 Месяц назад +1

    First of all, thanx for excellent content and second, THANK YOU SO MUCH for bringing more light on the subject of EU long range / performance battery (LG M50). For EU people that don't do any intense research, they don't know that they are not getting the car they saw reviewed on RUclips (since more reviewers are US based). I got the M3P 2022 with LG pack, just missed out on the Panasonic that they stopped delivery in march 2022. I would very much like to have a dedicated video about this and also about claims of issues with the Panasonic battery packs that came from China (although as far as I was able to research, the cells them self were actually US made). What I would like to have focused on is the only real problem that LG M50 has: high inner resistance. There is nothing wrong with the cooling system from Tesla, the only issues is wrong selection of batters for the power requirements. Too high inner resistance causes higher losses which causes more heating of the battery. The power losses (heat) on LG battery are almost twice as high as on Panasonic (According to Eivissa from TFF - than you so much), the voltage drop of Panasonic at max. power out is about 55v @ 1150 amp (63kW goes into heat losses in the battery), but LG has 95V @ 1250 amp (119kW in battery heat losses)!!! I tested this my self on OBD and the voltage dropped from 390V down to 290 V (my battery SOC was about 90% but the temperature was not as high so I even got more than 95v drop).
    tff-forum.de/t/model-3-performance-2022-panasonic-vs-lg/210880?page=1

  • @TheCityCritic
    @TheCityCritic Месяц назад +2

    Looking at your map in the first few seconds… you are so close to my home!

  • @MarsPLAYStudio
    @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +6

    15:33 Not a new car, but you can get an older Model 3 Performance with the Panasonic battery pack which accelerates and charges better :P

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +2

      No previous model 3 performance will accelerate faster than newer models, regardless of battery.

    • @MarsPLAYStudio
      @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +1

      @@user-os1nh7xq1z
      But it will start off the line better because it has no torque vectoring iirc. The new ones give full power above 50 kmh to stress the wheels / motors / drivetrain structure etc. less.
      Also the Panasonic battery charges better.

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +1

      @@MarsPLAYStudio No previous version model 3 performance will beat a new model 3 performance to 60. Just fact. Starting off the line is irrelevant of it cant continue accelerating as hard.

    • @MarsPLAYStudio
      @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +1

      I never wrote that the old model 3 is faster. I wrote it accelerates faster and charges faster which is fact. I didn’t wrote that it has a faster 0-60 time but accelerates faster off the line.
      Also the new model 3 with the LG pack will probably be slower at a lower soc than the old model 3 with the Panasonic battery and same low soc. Just facts

    • @alpahc
      @alpahc Месяц назад

      @@MarsPLAYStudio except it doesn't accelerate faster lol

  • @TheRichardc88
    @TheRichardc88 Месяц назад +1

    So much fun! My 2020 Model Y LR with acceleration boost likes to top out at a random 138mph.

  • @spacep0d
    @spacep0d Месяц назад +1

    It was very frustrating that the camera was locked on you instead of showing the road while you talked. I don't need to see you the whole time. I WANT TO SEE GERMANY AND THE AUTOBAHN. Thanks. :D

  • @travellover3373
    @travellover3373 Месяц назад +1

    At 40% SOC, you have lesser voltage which means the system will draw more current to achieve power demand which results in more heat.

    • @aculeus1971
      @aculeus1971 Месяц назад +1

      On test drives, Tesla were first plugging the new model 3 performance into the supercharger, preferring not to let it out on test with < 50% battery.

  • @marsstarlink3235
    @marsstarlink3235 Месяц назад +5

    Is the previous gen Model 3 performance significantly better?

    • @gcvr
      @gcvr Месяц назад +4

      I owned a 2021 one before the Plaid and driven M3P Highland. In terms of build quality, looks, suspension, pick the Highland. But in terms of actual lasting performance, it is significantly worse. I honestly think the US version might be much better. Much. Better.

    • @G82Watts
      @G82Watts Месяц назад +1

      ​@@gcvrnope. The US version is having the same problems but at an even faster rate due to faster speeds.

    • @dantethomas7964
      @dantethomas7964 Месяц назад

      ​@@G82WattsIts funny how they downplay the problems to make Tesla look better. Lol always.

    • @mowensmd
      @mowensmd 27 дней назад

      NO

    • @gcvr
      @gcvr 27 дней назад

      @@G82Watts that's even worse lol, altho I do find that hard to believe. The US version does have the Panasonic Performance battery, and in the 2021 M3P that performed better then the EU Highland LG. But I did not drive it, I wouldn't know. All I do know is that M3P Highland cuts power faster then 2021 M3P in EU

  • @MrYouchaskimtube
    @MrYouchaskimtube Месяц назад +9

    KM/H not MPH

    • @ichigo19870
      @ichigo19870 Месяц назад +1

      I heard kph which is correct ;)

  • @slyguyaction
    @slyguyaction Месяц назад

    Converting all the readouts to freedom units would have been nice. Haha. Thanks Kyle!

  • @mkh3227
    @mkh3227 Месяц назад +2

    Isn't 100% regen hurting motor AND battery temps....
    3rd video in track mode I've seen with thermal issues BUT all with 100% regen set as well??? ...including Mishas ring vid.
    Am I on Crack?....
    or turn off/reduce regen would drop temps!?!?!

    • @mrb2349
      @mrb2349 Месяц назад +1

      That's true, they are pushing it on the wrong settings. Some can argue that if Misha turned off regen, brakes would have cooked earlier but I don't think at the limits regen is enough to brake for the corners anyways. If someone installs some larger brakes and does a lap with regen off we can see some differences.

  • @markpressey3603
    @markpressey3603 Месяц назад

    Very cool - even a call out for Soest, my old stomping grounds - Dambuster territory !!

  • @JSmooVE3990
    @JSmooVE3990 Месяц назад +2

    I thought Francie was gonna drive the Rivian but in the video you said she's in the model 3?

  • @cbotten106
    @cbotten106 Месяц назад

    It's a spicy meatball...but just runs a lil' bit hot at times. Tesla actually supplied a vehicle, that's pretty rare these days.

  • @amazon4517
    @amazon4517 Месяц назад

    magnifique discussion technique et précise . On aimerait tellement que les journalistes aient tous ce niveau de connaissance et de competence .
    Bravo.👍👍

  • @xan2242
    @xan2242 Месяц назад

    I think this is another great demonstration between how Tesla defines performance and how other automakers define performance. Tesla is great value for money for most people who are just driving in traffic and want a lot of power but only for less than 1-2 minutes. And for the people who want to track... or drive spiritedly longer, then the more expensive Hyundai IONIQ 5N and Porsche Taycan are better as they can maintain high power for significantly longer without overheating and aren't underbraked from factory.

  • @perezdr1
    @perezdr1 Месяц назад +2

    Could the Tesla software just be "too conservative" for now? In the end, we don't really know the real temperature numbers, we are just seeing what the car is telling you... the computer might be playing it safe for now... I mean, they have done "live" beta testing before remember!? :D

  • @G82Watts
    @G82Watts Месяц назад +3

    The US version also has many vids having this exact problem. The people ignorantly guessing in the comments that it doesnt i can assure u are wrong. Just look around on youtube for urself. After just 1 lap around a 2 min track its cooked.

    • @chadmueller9135
      @chadmueller9135 Месяц назад +2

      They just try to downplay the problems as usual

  • @FthePump
    @FthePump 6 дней назад

    If I needed a smaller ride, this would be it!

  • @AndrewGoodladIchorus
    @AndrewGoodladIchorus Месяц назад +1

    Isn't the Canadian the LG Battery too? Might make comparisons in North America pretty easy.

  • @ron-manke
    @ron-manke Месяц назад +5

    Why do you keep saying Miles Per Hour when the speedometer CLEARLY says Kilometers Per Hour!

    • @x12ozx
      @x12ozx Месяц назад +5

      It looked like he was stating the comparable speed in miles per hour for American viewers.

    • @ron-manke
      @ron-manke Месяц назад

      ​​@@x12ozxHe was literally reading out the km from the speedometer and saying miles. The max speed on this car is 162 mph and he was saying 200, 220, etc.

    • @nomansland120
      @nomansland120 Месяц назад

      He isn't. He is sometimes making note that 200 means 124 mph. Americans just too dumb to understand.

    • @BobL56
      @BobL56 Месяц назад

      It’s not hard to figure out what he means

  • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
    @bavariancarenthusiast2722 Месяц назад +10

    Best car in its class price / performance, as long if you don´t want to get fast - then it will be shaky at least over here in Germany - so not for me. And no it cannot be fixed by OTA. (still marveling in the Race to Vegas and back mood - that was awesome guys) Good to see you have so many German Fans around 😀

    • @d.524
      @d.524 Месяц назад +2

      Did you even drive it? There are many videos of it driving max speed and great handling

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 Месяц назад

      A software update could tell it to cool better at speeds over 200 km/h.

    • @Aztasu
      @Aztasu Месяц назад +8

      @@scottbreseke716 no

    • @bavariancarenthusiast2722
      @bavariancarenthusiast2722 Месяц назад

      @@d.524 not in anger - I drove it and I liked it a lot in its class its the best for me (as I also wrote).

    • @HDHQDIRECT
      @HDHQDIRECT Месяц назад

      @@d.524 I seen another video driving on a racing track and they had the same problems.

  • @Storm3451
    @Storm3451 Месяц назад +19

    It really feels like Tesla dropped the ball. Or maybe they just don't care anymore since they focus more an Optimus and Robotaxis?

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +1

      100%

    • @C4rb0neum
      @C4rb0neum Месяц назад +3

      Or they found it difficult to balance keeping the battery warm in cold temperatures and cool under load in hot temperatures. For most people, having a warm enough battery for fast charging is more important than performance at +200 km/h

    • @safakhan3088
      @safakhan3088 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@C4rb0neumThen dont call it a Performance car in the first place

    • @otm646
      @otm646 Месяц назад

      It's absolutely a performance car. But they're looking at here is the difference between an AMG and an AMG Black series. ​@@safakhan3088

    • @senadhasanbasic260
      @senadhasanbasic260 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@otm646Performance cars dont have issues after some harmless autobahn sprints.

  • @MarsPLAYStudio
    @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +2

    There is no "Pre-drive cooling" option like on the old Model 3 which was called "overclock cooling compressor"

    • @HDHQDIRECT
      @HDHQDIRECT Месяц назад

      @@MarsPLAYStudio that can potentially damage the system and release hazardous chemicals in the air. It also can result in a fire hazard.

    • @MarsPLAYStudio
      @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +1

      @@HDHQDIRECT but why is it persistent on the old Model 3?
      Also, it wasn’t „overclocking“ the compressor.
      In the description it was written that the cooling compressor just runs at 100% power regardless your use case and cools the battery and motor

    • @theipc-twizzt2789
      @theipc-twizzt2789 Месяц назад

      Because the LG battery loses power if you cool it down. So they heat it up instead. That unfortunately causes thermal throttling

  • @neothehackerV2
    @neothehackerV2 Месяц назад +5

    Kyle come on don't praise the M3P so much. This is embarrassing!! Oberheats too quick, same old problems. And that's a brand new car. The interior is boring, not full sporty feeling as you mentioned. Come on! Look at a E-tron RS GT interior!! That is sporty! Sorry but you're too Tesla biased.

    • @chadmueller9135
      @chadmueller9135 Месяц назад

      He is American, of course he is Tesla biased...

  • @KennethRobinson-rf9wj
    @KennethRobinson-rf9wj Месяц назад +25

    You've got a fan in me, keep 'em coming!

    • @fiehlsport
      @fiehlsport Месяц назад

      @@KennethRobinson-rf9wj Kenneth bot strikes again

  • @artansadiki3244
    @artansadiki3244 Месяц назад +15

    A Performance car that can't perform everywhere. Hahahaga

    • @dangrass
      @dangrass Месяц назад

      ruclips.net/video/PcAEy0hmC08/видео.html

  • @MarsPLAYStudio
    @MarsPLAYStudio Месяц назад +1

    47:25 Would not it be enough to just torn off the ac for the cabin but maintain the airflow ? So the ac knows it does not need to work for the cabin and utilize itself fully for the battery / drivetrain?

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine Месяц назад +3

    Regarding thermals, there’s an engineering trade-off. They could have easily put larger air inlets, but that would sacrifice range due to aerodynamic drag. Look at the Ionic 5N. No thermal issues, but it only has like 200 miles of range. I guess Tesla decided range was more important than all-out top speed performance and I would say it was probably the right decision to appeal to more buyers.

  • @tahiyetkamal5017
    @tahiyetkamal5017 Месяц назад +1

    Hog back on 12.5 needed as soon as it comes out.

  • @Iangamebr
    @Iangamebr Месяц назад +21

    For some reason tesla thermals are always extremely underwhelming, yeah enough to rip from a stoplight to the next but that's about it, you can never do a full push lap in any tesla, always limited by temps.
    Not only that but the stock brakes are always just garbage.
    CMON, literally the 2 most important things in the car if you want to have fun at the track and both are huge misses.

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 Месяц назад +1

      For street driving though, still quicker than a G80.

    • @binflydushy
      @binflydushy Месяц назад +5

      @@alexnutcasio936A G80 is 2x the fun though

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@alexnutcasio936Same 0-60 and quartermile time as a G80 Xdrive, so no. G80 is a second faster 60-130 too.

  • @BaIIsDeep
    @BaIIsDeep Месяц назад

    24:05 two feet on the break lol

  • @sanderverh6882
    @sanderverh6882 Месяц назад

    Correction: For a Model 3 Performance in Germany you don't even get a 330i xDrive with same options. M340i is 76k compared to 58k (was 56 2 months ago) for M3P.

  • @michaelsmithers4900
    @michaelsmithers4900 Месяц назад

    Running heat in the car while parked with the windows open will help cool the battery more than ac. Running the heat in all newer model 3s draws heat from the battery (when hot)

  • @evchargerreviewsnet
    @evchargerreviewsnet Месяц назад

    Sending it hard at low SoC builds even more drivetrain heat because voltage is lower so it needs to pull more amps to make the same power.

  • @thepetrolman4879
    @thepetrolman4879 Месяц назад +14

    Good car for its price, but the Performance badge is laughable. Considering its a around 500hp car and has problems from a simple Autobahn run. The Ioniq 5N actually deserves that badge.

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 Месяц назад +9

    Interesting seeing Hyundai building a better European car.

  • @ron-manke
    @ron-manke Месяц назад +1

    Also, why aren't the guests correcting you each time you say MPH?

  • @lukyluke993
    @lukyluke993 Месяц назад +16

    I would say the thermal system and thermal interface is not correctly designed for a performance vehicle 🚀

    • @logtec1162
      @logtec1162 Месяц назад

      I have mode yp and the cooling is so bad vs Porsche

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 Месяц назад +2

      There are so many people who don't drive like lunatics.

    • @judgesh
      @judgesh Месяц назад +4

      @@scottbreseke716sure, but for performance people are looking for track performance

    • @kenion2166
      @kenion2166 Месяц назад

      The Thermal System is designed for efficiency, winter performance on Tesla is superior to any other car but looks like it comes with some downsides on hot weather and battery cooling :/

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@scottbreseke716then you dont need a Performance car, just get the base model.

  • @Gallardo6669
    @Gallardo6669 Месяц назад

    You may not know, Autobahn gets stressful over time, especially the way you drive. AND: tires last 60%less in Germany (autobahn and round abouts...)

  • @grogu360
    @grogu360 Месяц назад

    the Autobahn is the innovation field of the German car makers

  • @holters9203
    @holters9203 Месяц назад +1

    Why regen on??? Heat up the battery so quickly

    • @K1971k
      @K1971k Месяц назад

      Do you think new model 3 battery it’s good in middle east or no after you see this video ? 😅😅

  • @rahansk8200
    @rahansk8200 Месяц назад +1

    hello, I would love to see you test electric cars from the European market that are not available in the USA.

  • @FlyWithTyy
    @FlyWithTyy Месяц назад

    Honestly I genuinely hope that Tesla is continuing improvements to the model S and doing a redesign in the next 2-4 years! Would love to see a model S plaid with 1,100-1,200HP, but due to low sale volume compared to the model 3 and the model Y who knows.🙏🏼

    • @mho0
      @mho0 Месяц назад

      Sales of S/X is so low that at least financially it would be very questionable to even continue them...

  • @notsure4907
    @notsure4907 Месяц назад +1

    This was a fantastic demo of the adaptive headlights, why can’t we have those in the United States?

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 Месяц назад

      Many Tesla drivers don't use their high beams correctly already. Blinding people all over the place.

  • @samesqueda9442
    @samesqueda9442 Месяц назад +3

    Great content as always

  • @antoinepageau8336
    @antoinepageau8336 Месяц назад

    I’m torn. We have two 2022 model 3 LFP one with 115k the other 55k and they’ve been perfect. I can afford to trade up one of them to the new performance but here in Canada we get the LG battery pack…
    I’m also worried about loosing my drivers license if I get caught while having fun…

  • @prantto3914
    @prantto3914 Месяц назад

    Go from Berlin south to Leipzig. A9 is a super open 3 lane autobahn. Perfect for high speeds.

  • @dmandn
    @dmandn Месяц назад

    I wonder if the motors get a separate cooling loop, will the batteries stay considerably cooler?

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine Месяц назад

    They are able to use a smaller steering wheel because there’s no instrument cluster through which a larger steering wheel is needed to see.

  • @matt45540
    @matt45540 Месяц назад +12

    It's a shame we can't have that America. It's only people can learn how to drive here

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 Месяц назад

      What? You mean the Auto Bahn? We already have the better car.

    • @Carfan678
      @Carfan678 Месяц назад +3

      Germany has the best drivers in the world, India has the worst 😂

    • @brandonpreston84
      @brandonpreston84 Месяц назад +8

      It would have to be changes in our Government. It's too easy to get a license in the U.S. and we are lackluster as far as actually teaching proper driving habits.

    • @user-os1nh7xq1z
      @user-os1nh7xq1z Месяц назад +3

      @@brandonpreston84 Agreed. If they had a autobahn in the US it would be daily deaths and accidents.

    • @valerystoichkov7429
      @valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@alexnutcasio936who cares, you have speedlimits everywhere.

  • @shou635
    @shou635 Месяц назад +8

    Sadly this review is with the worse LG batteries.

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 Месяц назад +1

      It could have been a one-off issue.

    • @Aztasu
      @Aztasu Месяц назад +3

      @@scottbreseke716 no

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 Месяц назад +1

      @@Aztasu You base this answer on what?

    • @Aztasu
      @Aztasu Месяц назад +3

      @@scottbreseke716 because it simply isn't

    • @Iceeeen
      @Iceeeen Месяц назад +3

      ​@@scottbreseke716 there even is a video by Misha on the ring where the damn thing overheats after 5 minutes. By then end of the lap it struggles to overtake a Fiesta. Shitty car, definitely not a Performance model

  • @djgynee
    @djgynee 11 дней назад

    why dont you just add 5 more over weight passengeers and wonder why the batteries gets hot

  • @CoordinatedCarry
    @CoordinatedCarry Месяц назад +5

    Close to 500 horse power? I’ll take a Kia EV6 GT thanks.