Does anybody else think the Outsider sounds a little disappointed when Delilah is not killed? I did both just to see and he sounds happier when you kill her instead.
Late to the party, but Delilah became a part of the void in the Brigmore Witches. In Dishonored 2, the Outsider states that she's a part of him now and he doesn't like it. I assume he's more pleased to see her put down because of that.
Funny thing that happened to me while playing in the Duke palace, I wanted to kill nobody so I gathered all unconscious body into one place (the dining room) and for some reason a random guard showed up and shot me. I didn't saw his bullet transformed into bloodflies, and with stress I killed him and put his body in the dining room with all the bodies. I go away and visit the map for the secrets, and when I come back there is the most biggest mass of bloodflies roaming around the dining room eating corpses. They were so many the game FPS was probably 10 or something, I was mad and finished the map.
@@ZubtigoPlaza At that time I was playing for the first time Dishonored 2, so I kept getting spotted by random people and guards, I got protection bone charms and I equipped them to be more resistant. (One of my psychological problem is that I force myself to knock out the whole map instead of just passing by.)
When I play this game, I play selectively on who dies. Most guards and overseers are safe, as are Hypatia and Stilton. But most Howlers and all witches will die.
You listen to a lot of the talk, you might find the Overseers are far more brutal than the Howlers. Even many city guards are. You hear many more stories of Howlers protecting folks from the Grand Guard's abuses than you hear townsfolk actually being bothered by the Howlers
@@TheAlpacalypseIsUponUs I can’t bring myself to kill the random guard who’s working double shifts to support a sick friend back at home Thanks the heart
@@TemmieContingenC Use Heart to identify if person is good or evil Killing good person gives point into chaos counter and killing bad person gives lower Works for any guard npc im sure
I kill every guard in the first mission, they are all 1st hand traitors. I kill the Overseers because they are sadistic fanatics. I killed Paolo because he attacks you earlier in the game (at least he attacked me). Saved Stilton because he is the man who will save the town, saved Hypatia because she is not at fault. Killed both the duke and his double (even if he is nicer he is still an idiot who is useless). I didn't kill any guards in the Stilton past since they're still loyal. The rest I kill only if necessary.
Its low chaos and killing the decoy and the real one its confusing tho there are two versions the evil duke and the cool duke i will reply oj how to get that i will review my game ok
I got that ending too. But I got it by knocking out poalo and giving him to the overseer, then knocking out brian and putting him in a box that'll send him to the mines. Edit: and by choosing the Duke clone as Duke
I'm pretty sure if you ship both Poalo and Byrne away in the crates, the situation with the duke is much better as he just starts acting nice and caring for his people, who of course wonder why but won't argue against good fortune. With this ending, you have a gang leader literally whispering into the ear of the man in charge. Wouldn't want a religious zealot doing that either, personally.
Another reason why the outsider seems somewhat eh about the ending. He seems happier when she is killed instead, vs in the first game where he is happier with "full pacifist" aka full poetic justice.
I always questioned how long would that painting hold her. Maybe some crazy witch tries to bring her back in the future, death is the only guarantee of peace.
In 2 it's not about how many you kill it's who you kill. The heart tells you if they were bad people or not (like some guards working overtime to support their family).
I usually leave Paolo and high overseer alone(by alone I mean knocking both out and locking them in a bathroom together) My head canon is that they marry because you can see them speaking in the end cutscene
I got this ending both times I played, but I'm still confused about Aramis Stilton. I rendered him unconscious by choke-out the 2nd time I played, yet when I returned to the present the mansion had been bought by Caruso and notes in the mansion mentioned that Stilton had been murdered. And of course I never got to speak to him on Megan's boat. Can anyone explain?
He may have died by something that you didn't see such as an area with one or two bloodflies I've had that happen to a guard when playing and it was only one bloodfly
In my oppinion the "best" way to play the game is: - Playing as Corvo and refusing the mark of the outsider - Trapping Ramsey - Saving Hypatia from the crown killer - Killing Jindosh because the lobotomy machine is too cruel - Knocking out Stilton to prevent him from going mad and putting both Vice Overseer and Paolo on the Silvergraph coffins because both factions are cruel and dispute normal folk territory - Using the Oraculum on Ashworth - Killing Luca Abele - Killing Delilah - Forgiving Billy Lurk - Freeing Emily
I say use put Jindosh on his own machine instead of killing him. The irony of being a victim of his own creation is almost poetically represented. Replace the Duke with his double and the kingdom gets a kind ruler and he would have better knowledge of administration than anyone else as he has been filling in for the Duke knowing which places need more work. I'd love to fight Delilah in a climatic swordfight tho as Corvo as it makes more sense playing as him with all the links from the past. Emily feels out of place. As for refusing the mark it makes him a hypocrite as he still listens to him and does use the timepiece in Stilton's Manor. I'm unsure about that part as the powers were not evil and each person who had the mark ended up where they were because of their own decisions. Corvo used his powers to protect Emily and Innocents (low chaos ending of 1 is Canon)
@@vegitoblue2187 The outsider is kind of a meddler who sets things into chaotic motion just for entertainment. It makes sense why the overseers and many other people view him as evil. Accepting his mark is somewhat similar to accepting a mark of the devil or something. You didn't get a choice last time, but this time you choose whether you abide yourself with the dark arts like delilah and her witches or you make it on your own way.
@@JP-rf8rr but the powers were not evil per say. It was how they used it. Daud killed people for money and brought trouble upon himself. Corvo used it to save his daughter.
@@vegitoblue2187 But it's where you get the powers. A good analogy is blood money. Some would say taking blood money is okay if you use it good, others would say it shouldn't be taken ever.
Some events make more sense like when Corvo picks up his mask and says just like the old days while Emily just picks up a telescope which feels like it was done for the sake of keeping the same base mechanics. Also the part when he set Jessamine's spirit free . Corvo in a way is not related officialy with the Caldwin family which makes sense why he is trapped. I made a mistake by saying dumb to turn her to stone. Corvo lost the powers of the void in the incident so potentially nobody can reverse the effect and Delilah probably sees her sister in her hating her even more.
I like playing as corvo for nostalgia basically, and i think the game suits him better, the mask is a good example, all the familiar faces reacting with past references and the fact that the game is set in his hometown
@@diegoherrera5736 agreed even though emily is canon it seems like it was made with corvo kept in mind looking at how elaborate his past references are and they could have made emily put on the mask for the reference to part 1 which would have made playing as her more fun with her probably encountereing old enemies who think its corvo but get surprised its not
@@winstonchurchill7822 emily has a direct blood relation to jesamine who delilah hates the most. corvo on the other hand is only hated for having a relationship with jesamine while he was not a noble which was considered taboo. The cutscenes make more sense as corvo as he puts on the mask again like old times. the same equivalent cinematics for emily feel blandm this could have been fixed by making her take the mask like a baton pass of sorts and could have had a different color scheme to fit character design. the reports of the masked assasin being spotted again and people thinking its the same person would have been pretty cool.
Hexmaster23 I can’t really remember how I beat the duplicates but I think I used the tranquilizer arrows with the crossbow on the duplicates and knocked them all out then snuck up behind Delilah and knocked her out not 100% sure because it’s been 2 years since I touched this game, hope it helps though!
Delilah is actually on a ledge above where you enter the painting. You can climb/blink until you reach her (she has her back to you), sneak, and KO or kill her.
Pretty old, but if anyone else is having problems, there are like 5 or 6 duplicates I think. You can walk up behind them and kill them without adding any kills at all since they're fake. You can easily detect them by shape alone since they look like Delilah, but if its still hard you can just point your cursor at any statue, if it shows red its a duplicate.
Does anybody else think the Outsider sounds a little disappointed when Delilah is not killed? I did both just to see and he sounds happier when you kill her instead.
I mean its not like she hasn't been trapped before and managed to get out
I honestly like the first voice actor more than this one. I don't like the sound effects they give him either. I liked it clean and ominous.
Jeffrey Chen personally i like this voice actor more.
Late to the party, but Delilah became a part of the void in the Brigmore Witches. In Dishonored 2, the Outsider states that she's a part of him now and he doesn't like it. I assume he's more pleased to see her put down because of that.
Cause he gives you the mark to do it
I wonder how long it’ll take Delilah to figure out she’s in a false reality, she’s gonna be pissed off.
Well she is living in a paradise of her greatest imagination and desires so i think she's too happy to even notice
She was trying to change the world into a perfect world so she prob would never notice anyway
She will become the next outsider at that point
Funny thing that happened to me while playing in the Duke palace, I wanted to kill nobody so I gathered all unconscious body into one place (the dining room) and for some reason a random guard showed up and shot me.
I didn't saw his bullet transformed into bloodflies, and with stress I killed him and put his body in the dining room with all the bodies.
I go away and visit the map for the secrets, and when I come back there is the most biggest mass of bloodflies roaming around the dining room eating corpses.
They were so many the game FPS was probably 10 or something, I was mad and finished the map.
Oh wow you must have had that bonecharm or rune if I recall. The one that turns bullets into bloodflys
@@danischannel Yes very probably.
Why did you have an assault charm for a non-lethal run...? Also just ghost past most of these people no need to knock them out.
@@ZubtigoPlaza At that time I was playing for the first time Dishonored 2, so I kept getting spotted by random people and guards, I got protection bone charms and I equipped them to be more resistant.
(One of my psychological problem is that I force myself to knock out the whole map instead of just passing by.)
@@Cynwale quick save - quick load :p
When I play this game, I play selectively on who dies. Most guards and overseers are safe, as are Hypatia and Stilton. But most Howlers and all witches will die.
You listen to a lot of the talk, you might find the Overseers are far more brutal than the Howlers. Even many city guards are. You hear many more stories of Howlers protecting folks from the Grand Guard's abuses than you hear townsfolk actually being bothered by the Howlers
@@SmokeyMountainSuccubus hearing guard secrets really made the game more depressing
@@TheAlpacalypseIsUponUs I can’t bring myself to kill the random guard who’s working double shifts to support a sick friend back at home
Thanks the heart
@@TemmieContingenC Use Heart to identify if person is good or evil
Killing good person gives point into chaos counter and killing bad person gives lower
Works for any guard npc im sure
I kill every guard in the first mission, they are all 1st hand traitors. I kill the Overseers because they are sadistic fanatics. I killed Paolo because he attacks you earlier in the game (at least he attacked me). Saved Stilton because he is the man who will save the town, saved Hypatia because she is not at fault. Killed both the duke and his double (even if he is nicer he is still an idiot who is useless). I didn't kill any guards in the Stilton past since they're still loyal.
The rest I kill only if necessary.
I got the best ending corvo as duke and citizens sitting beside him
Mr Baldi how do you get that ending?
Its low chaos and killing the decoy and the real one its confusing tho there are two versions the evil duke and the cool duke i will reply oj how to get that i will review my game ok
I got that ending too. But I got it by knocking out poalo and giving him to the overseer, then knocking out brian and putting him in a box that'll send him to the mines.
Edit: and by choosing the Duke clone as Duke
Same that was a good ending
Same
I'm pretty sure if you ship both Poalo and Byrne away in the crates, the situation with the duke is much better as he just starts acting nice and caring for his people, who of course wonder why but won't argue against good fortune. With this ending, you have a gang leader literally whispering into the ear of the man in charge. Wouldn't want a religious zealot doing that either, personally.
Canonical ending is Paolo becoming the new duke
Yea, this is not the best ending. With Paolo influencing him, the new Duke is not gonna be much better than Abele.
Every other no kill alternative seems so cruel yet Delilah gets her own personal paradise
Another reason why the outsider seems somewhat eh about the ending. He seems happier when she is killed instead, vs in the first game where he is happier with "full pacifist" aka full poetic justice.
I always questioned how long would that painting hold her. Maybe some crazy witch tries to bring her back in the future, death is the only guarantee of peace.
Love the song at the end for the credits in this game. Soulful dark cabaret.
I got this exact same ending but got detected a few times and killed all the witches in the last mission
Hey, i do that too. Spare everyone, except Delilah and her witches (and the bloodflies Nest Guardians).
In 2 it's not about how many you kill it's who you kill. The heart tells you if they were bad people or not (like some guards working overtime to support their family).
@@vegitoblue2187 late reply but dishonored 1 also allows you to keep low chaos if you kill all assassins / weepers
@@notsoveryready6903 does it? did not know
@@vegitoblue2187 im highly sure since in the first campaign you did kill some assassins
I usually leave Paolo and high overseer alone(by alone I mean knocking both out and locking them in a bathroom together)
My head canon is that they marry because you can see them speaking in the end cutscene
I like this ending
Wait... you chose to bring the Vice Overseer to Paolo??
You chose to give Paolo to the Vice Overseer?
ZackYoloman Nope, I eliminated none of them. Why did you ask?
because you asked first
Okey...
Yeah sadly I forgot about that part of it, I just knocked out the vice overseer and gave him to Paolo
I didn't get this ending. I did Shadow and clean hands. Idk
Killing people with gas doesn't mean having clean hands.
do clockwork soldiers being killed count as deaths? (as in non-cleanhands)
randomeuropeanguy no clockwork soldiers and hounds do not count as kills.
Clockworks, hounds, rats and bloodflies don't count as kills☺
kingslayer Gaming thank you so much
beings that arent human or at least don't act human dont count towards chaos scale
What count to chaos are things that participate in the whale extermination, even indirectly.
No Hypatia in this ending?
Kathic I guess not, never realized
"Lick my flesh, worship me!"
uuuuuhhhh
I guess everyone has different turn-ons.
I got this ending both times I played, but I'm still confused about Aramis Stilton. I rendered him unconscious by choke-out the 2nd time I played, yet when I returned to the present the mansion had been bought by Caruso and notes in the mansion mentioned that Stilton had been murdered. And of course I never got to speak to him on Megan's boat. Can anyone explain?
Torgo1969 sounds like you killed him
He may have died by something that you didn't see such as an area with one or two bloodflies I've had that happen to a guard when playing and it was only one bloodfly
In my oppinion the "best" way to play the game is:
- Playing as Corvo and refusing the mark of the outsider
- Trapping Ramsey
- Saving Hypatia from the crown killer
- Killing Jindosh because the lobotomy machine is too cruel
- Knocking out Stilton to prevent him from going mad and putting both Vice Overseer and Paolo on the Silvergraph coffins because both factions are cruel and dispute normal folk territory
- Using the Oraculum on Ashworth
- Killing Luca Abele
- Killing Delilah
- Forgiving Billy Lurk
- Freeing Emily
I would just kill Ramsey, but ok
I say use put Jindosh on his own machine instead of killing him. The irony of being a victim of his own creation is almost poetically represented.
Replace the Duke with his double and the kingdom gets a kind ruler and he would have better knowledge of administration than anyone else as he has been filling in for the Duke knowing which places need more work.
I'd love to fight Delilah in a climatic swordfight tho as Corvo as it makes more sense playing as him with all the links from the past. Emily feels out of place.
As for refusing the mark it makes him a hypocrite as he still listens to him and does use the timepiece in Stilton's Manor. I'm unsure about that part as the powers were not evil and each person who had the mark ended up where they were because of their own decisions. Corvo used his powers to protect Emily and Innocents (low chaos ending of 1 is Canon)
@@vegitoblue2187
The outsider is kind of a meddler who sets things into chaotic motion just for entertainment. It makes sense why the overseers and many other people view him as evil. Accepting his mark is somewhat similar to accepting a mark of the devil or something. You didn't get a choice last time, but this time you choose whether you abide yourself with the dark arts like delilah and her witches or you make it on your own way.
@@JP-rf8rr but the powers were not evil per say. It was how they used it. Daud killed people for money and brought trouble upon himself. Corvo used it to save his daughter.
@@vegitoblue2187
But it's where you get the powers.
A good analogy is blood money. Some would say taking blood money is okay if you use it good, others would say it shouldn't be taken ever.
Plot wise playing as corvo makes more sense as it would be dumb to lock Emily away instead of killing her or turning her to stone
İf trapping her is dumb then why do you prefer corvo ??
Some events make more sense like when Corvo picks up his mask and says just like the old days while Emily just picks up a telescope which feels like it was done for the sake of keeping the same base mechanics. Also the part when he set Jessamine's spirit free . Corvo in a way is not related officialy with the Caldwin family which makes sense why he is trapped. I made a mistake by saying dumb to turn her to stone. Corvo lost the powers of the void in the incident so potentially nobody can reverse the effect and Delilah probably sees her sister in her hating her even more.
I like playing as corvo for nostalgia basically, and i think the game suits him better, the mask is a good example, all the familiar faces reacting with past references and the fact that the game is set in his hometown
@@diegoherrera5736 agreed even though emily is canon it seems like it was made with corvo kept in mind looking at how elaborate his past references are and they could have made emily put on the mask for the reference to part 1 which would have made playing as her more fun with her probably encountereing old enemies who think its corvo but get surprised its not
@@winstonchurchill7822 emily has a direct blood relation to jesamine who delilah hates the most. corvo on the other hand is only hated for having a relationship with jesamine while he was not a noble which was considered taboo. The cutscenes make more sense as corvo as he puts on the mask again like old times. the same equivalent cinematics for emily feel blandm this could have been fixed by making her take the mask like a baton pass of sorts and could have had a different color scheme to fit character design. the reports of the masked assasin being spotted again and people thinking its the same person would have been pretty cool.
Spoiler alert: the game ends
David Strickland lol no there will be apart 3 a dlc
How did you managed to ghost the last mission? Delilah and her duplicates kept detecting me.
Hexmaster23 I can’t really remember how I beat the duplicates but I think I used the tranquilizer arrows with the crossbow on the duplicates and knocked them all out then snuck up behind Delilah and knocked her out not 100% sure because it’s been 2 years since I touched this game, hope it helps though!
I believe she is on a ledge above you and the one in front of you is an illusion so you gotta sneak around
Delilah is actually on a ledge above where you enter the painting. You can climb/blink until you reach her (she has her back to you), sneak, and KO or kill her.
Pretty old, but if anyone else is having problems, there are like 5 or 6 duplicates I think. You can walk up behind them and kill them without adding any kills at all since they're fake. You can easily detect them by shape alone since they look like Delilah, but if its still hard you can just point your cursor at any statue, if it shows red its a duplicate.