Oh god I remember story 3…. That one is awful. Jeff did drop trying to peruse custody of OPs kid, and OP actually ran into his in-laws by complete chance, where they actually apologized for their daughters actions. Op of course said that even if that was the case, she wouldn’t feels safe with her anywhere near her kid, but the parents actually dropped the bombshell that Jeff’s wife had self-terminated out of grief, and turns out Jeff was the reason for his baby’s death due to him shaking them as the child suffered from colic I believe and the child wouldn’t stop crying. Man killed his kid, indirectly killed his wife, and then had the audacity to walk free from his crimes due to corruption and bribing his way out (from what I remember) was disgusting and utterly tragic. Thank god OP and their kid are safe from him and moving
I think it was because sids and shaken baby syndrome looks identical. So unless you get them on tape, or confessing it to the police they don't get charged.
@@vickymc9695 yeah I think so, and it didn’t help that SIDS is sadly quite common in their country from what op said so they thought it was that and Jeff even tried to say it was, but I don’t remember how but the truth came out and Jeff was the one responsible for the death of his child, and that sent his wife into a spiral and to the point of a psychological break, hence why she was calling ops daughter a different name and was insisting on changing her diaper and saying op was trying to kidnap her “daughter”. She was too far gone in grief and mental breakdown that she couldn’t even see what was reality anymore, me thinks. Jeff is by far one of the most vile creatures I’ve heard about from a Reddit story as of late
The thing that sucks about it is that, if this was in Ohio, having another adult sue for custody on your behalf is currently the only legal way for a child to escape their family if they were being abused, but the state doesn't allow that as an option in the first place until the child is over the age of 10. But, this dude was misunderstanding & misusing the hell out of that weird loophole- kid didn't know him & was too young to have an opinion really count in court anyway, nor was the kid in any obvious or demonstrable danger from the legal parents.
I also own snakes, ball pythons. I do let people handle my two biggest, but few in my family do bc most of them don’t care much for touching snakes. All that being said, I don’t let people touch my pets without permission.
I don't get how some people who don't really know the animals, think THEY have a say in allowing THEIR kids to touch them?! Really? You know nothing about the temperament of the animals?
Story 2: Oh, another one of those "I'll leave my child with you unannounced" kinds of parents. And the triple downing just to try to avoid getting jailed. What an idiot
Why did they let her enroll at the daycare?! That is such a huge liability knowing her disposition. It seems virtually guaranteed she will have a blowup against the daycare center at some point.
Story 1 - People need to realize that a hard NO means NO. I was working with a piece of equipment...this kid wanted to "help". I said hard no, the mom said yes, and before I said why mom grabbed it for the kid...and it shocked the F out of her. She was sitting there with eyes wide open and mouth agape...I yelled "THAT WAS WHY I SAID NO!" Not much more to the story. They were a couple of randos walking by and I was on my property in a garage 20 feet from the street. I asked if she was okay and she kind of nursed her hand and walked off with the kid. I had been hit by it doing the repair and it was painful...but not as bad as touching a hot pan or oven.
Story 3: you don't have all of the info, Fluff. It's MUCH darker than "Jeff" and his wife recently losing a child, and the wife's not handling it well. The baby died of shaken baby syndrome when "Jeff" got irritated at her crying because of croup and shook her so hard that he killed her. THAT'S also what the wife's trying to deal with, Jeff covering up what he did in front of everyone, while she knows the truth. 😢 It gets worse. As things get crazier for OP and her daughter, she makes sure to get them both as far from Jeff as possible, and at some point the wife's parents come to OP to apologize to her for all of the trouble, tell her that their daughter (the wife) unalived herself, and it was because of what Jeff did. It's not a crazy story. It's a heartbreaking and gut wrenching story. 😢😢😢
@DarkenVampirDragon-x3u I don't remember if OP said whether Jeff faced criminal charges after his wife's suicide. I'm trying to remember where I heard the entire story, because I think it came in parts with updates. ETA it wasn't terribly long ago that I heard this, and it was here on RUclips, but a different channel. I'm going to try to remember or find it.
Story 1: This is one of the many reasons uninvited guests should always be turned away at the door. No invitation, no entry. Story 2: That child should have been placed into foster care. Some parents deserve to have their parenting privileges revoked! Story 3: Kidnapping is never okay! Jeff and his wife shouldn't have been allowed near any children ever again. Story 4: OP made the right decision. Abandonment is not okay, and demanding an organ transplant is even worse.
For story 2: ideally, yes, but the foster care system is kind of a crapshoot, so it’s not a guarantee that the child would be better off taken away from her. And I’m guessing it was a first-time offense (and technically one that could be attributed to legitimate stupidity on her part rather than a deliberate decision to harm/neglect her child.) So all we can do is hope she got it through her head not to make that egregiously dumb of a decision again.
@@PositiveStellarLuckyAchiever Story 3 Update: Wife died, and Jeff seemingly gave up. Seems like the universe's way of telling them that they didn't deserve kids.
@tmntfangirl4700 There was another comment here. Apparently, Jeff gave their (Jeff and wife) child shaken baby syndrome, unaliving it in the process which drove the mother into a mental breakdown, where she unalive herself as well.
last story.. Well, I'm an adopted child who has never met their bio parents, but wholeheartedly love the parents who adopted and raised me. If my Bio family appeared out of nowhere demanding my body parts.. well they should be glad I'm in Canada, because if I were in America fire arms might become involved.
They didn't try to force her into anything. They are just desperate parents losing their son. So they try crazy, stupid things. Probably illegal too, as I don't see how a child could give any consent for being chopped up for whatever reason out. But killing them for being desperate? That's just evil and heartless. Especially as their son is in critical need of them.
I love the idea of someone getting bitten by a snake, yelling "Call 911, I'm poisoned!" while someone nearby adjusts their glasses and says "Um, actually, snakes are venomous, not poisonous."
As a guy who has 4 snakes I can totally relate to this story. My largest snake is so chill you could wear him as a neck tie. Another snake is tame but active to the point where if you hold him you have to pay attention or he will get out of your grip. Then my smallest nope rope, he thinks he’s king and has bitten me a few times. He’s still a good snake, just young and cautious Edit: cool snake OP 👍
Story 2: This woman is just another example of a poor parent leaving their kids in front of someone door without calling OP beforehand because of me time. Edit: And let’s not forget expecting free service because they can’t/don’t pay for a babysitter.
That was crazy. Who leaves their kid on a stranger's porch and just assumes the new neighbor is a) home b) willing to babysit c) competent to babysit!?
It's an example of someone who is willing to leave their child unattended without checking, because if anything happened they can blame somebody else. A real patent would have waited until somebody (not a kidnapper) took them.
Story 3 gets really insane with further updates as Jeff sends a priest as a flying monkey to religiously guilt and shame OP into handing over her daughter while at her place of work. And then in the latest update it turns out Jeff got away with murdering his baby by shaking the poor child for being colicky, this was revealed when OP bumped into Jeff's In-Laws (Jeff's Wife died by her own hand due to the overwhelming grief)
"Sends a priest as a flying monkey"? O_o As admittedly hilarious as that image is (the mental image I get is of one of the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz dressed as a Catholic priest) I'm not sure I get it... is this like a thing in Hinduism or something?
@@illuminocalypse5210a flying monkey in this instance is a way to describe people around a person swooping in to attack another person. For example: Patty has a fight with her cousin Brenda. Patty refuses to speak to Brenda or forgive her for her actions. Brenda then goes and sobs to other family members with a twisted version of events and the family members believe her. Said family members then attack Patty on Brenda's behalf, pushing at her to forgive Brenda. It IS related to the Wizard of Oz. Remember the flying monkeys attacking Dorothy on behalf of the wicked witch? That's exactly what Brenda's family are doing in my example and Brenda is the wicked witch. In the case of the story in the video, Jeff is the wicked witch and after twisting the narrative to the priest the priest became a flying monkey attacking OP to change her mind. It has nothing to do with Hinduism... no idea where you'd get that notion.
That last story, it's not the first time you've read a story about a girl put up for adoption, only for the birth family to track her down years later solely so they can use the child they threw out for spare parts. At least this family wasn't as insane about it as the Chinese family I remember you reading about.
@IAA2152 The one I recall Fluff talking about, the family came looking because their son (they'd specifically given her up because she was a girl) had leukemia and needed a bone marrow transplant. The adoptive father was initially all in favor, until he found out the process wasn't risk-free for his daughter. He said no, and the birth family raised hell, to the point her birth mother came to her school and demanded she undergo the procedure.
I would've expected and tell the doctor that I'm being coerced into donating my kidney and watch as the glimmer of hope faded as it did for me, if my PB pretended to love me
@@mhfuzzball Chinese people don't have participation trophy syndrome, only westerners do (well, including Chinese who were raised in the west). But they have little emperor syndrome due to one child policy. While the symptoms are similar, the reason is very different.
🤣 I once had an English teacher who didn't belive a friend of mine when she tried to explain him that "venom" and "poison" mean different things. Because in our language (Deutsch) both means just "giftig". We don't distinguish between "getting bit" or "biting/ eating" it. It's all the same in German. My friend then showed him a video from some biologist that explained it and only then our English teacher believed us 😅
That last story: so if the girl gave up her kidney, then years later she has a child who has kidney failure--she wouldn't be able to save her own child!
Not only this! What if OP will have problems with one kidney in the future? Nah! Don't endager your life for a stranger! Especially when the surgery alone can be super dangerous!
Story 2 - I immediately suspected that Karen was going to leave her son at OP’s house the second she mentioned what her job is. But leave it to a stupid Karen to misinterpret ‘daycare worker’ for ‘free babysitter’
That lady in story 2 is damn lucky. Sometimes kids don’t need to wander off to get kidnapped. And honestly, I’m surprised they let her off at all. I’ve thought this before with other, similar stories, but why would anyone just drop their kid off on someone’s doorstep without knocking and waiting for an actual answer? I wouldn’t leave my kids until I saw them go into the house with the person that was supposed to watch them. What this Karen did is just utterly ridiculous.
@feiery It's a corn snake actually. They look similar but aren't actually venomous. Source: I found the post on Reddit and the OP says it's a corn snake
Story 1: That right there is exactly how people learn. Story 2: That woman simply heard what she wanted to hear she didn't hear what was actually said.
I can understand the desperation of needing an organ donor for a dying son, to a degree... but the way they went about it, wtf. Also, to sue someone to take their daughter is a whole other degree of insanity. As for the stupid mom thinking the daycare worker was a babysitter, she's just incredibly stupid... but not as stupid as Jeff. Not even close. Also, snakes are cool.
As someone in need of a kidney transplant, the story about the adopted kid meeting their biological parents makes me so mad! How dare they! Organ donation is serious stuff. It's not like giving someone money. The donor is free to back out at any time, even the day of the surgery. My brother back out, and I don't blame him. It's pretty scary, plus what if one of his future kids needs a kidney?
Right? Like they were asking to borrow her bike or something, sheesh. I'm sorry you're going through that situation yourself, and I hope the best for your health and recovery 🙏
Story 2 is insane. Admitting that she saw her through the window (eg: just dumped the kid and ran expecting OP to be moral enough to so the right thing basically) is top tier self-snitching. What kind of demon does that to their own kid?!
Yes, but if that happened the world population would plummet. 😂 And unfortunately it's not a cure as I've seen absolute idiots have smart kids and really intelligent people have idiots. Sometimes it's a crap shoot.
that is called eugenics and this movement is progressed solely by racism & ableism. I understand many people do not deserve to have children because they are horrible or deeply mentally unwell in some way, but this kind of thing is used to deny parental rights to GOOD parents, too. a high-functioning autistic with partial deafness (for random example) may be MUCH better suited to parenthood than a fully able-minded able bodied person. placing rules & regulations on the act of reproduction can only lead to fascism. there is simply no other alternative.
*Story 4-* My hubby and I have an adorable niece that my sister and brother-in-law adopted from birth. We know she has siblings and they know who her parents are, but her parents have a bad drug addiction. Her parents have tried to get to her, but everyone around her is not letting them get near that little girl!
Story four.... Even if OP did get tested and is found a match, she has no obligation to those egg/sperm donors. The Doctor can tell them she isn't a match, to protect her.
In addition to being Arrested for Child Endangerment, OP should have called CPS on her... I would have... And if she Sued be for Endangering her kid and/or told everyone that I'm a horrible Babysitter, I'd have Sued her for Harassment and (if applicable) Slander, Libel and Defamation of Character... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
Final Story - What disgusting selfish people. They gave up OP when she was younger and then they came back into her life, not to start a relationship with her but to use her as a savior child for her brother that she’s never even met! OP made the right choice in leaving and her adopted parents ARE her real parents.
I wonder if the boy was older or younger? I get the feeling that a girl wasn't acceptable and they only wanted a son. There are some pathetic people still around in this day and age like that. Thank God she got adopted by her wonderful parents.
A shame no one seems to care about the son they wanted to save; presumably he is innocent regarding this shady meet up. Hopefully they were able to save him somehow; after all near as I can tell none of this was his fault.
@jasontoddman7265 exactly but not just that but we really don't know what they talked about and the only thing that seen to make op mad was the question but they didn't seem like bad people and we don't really know if they were really interested in forming a relationship with op while they also asked for help. If I'm recalling the story right op just left and didn't even hear out if they were only asking during this meeting because he didn't have much time left and were trying to save him and get reconnect to her and her brother too.
@@udiar Yes, that's one reason why I think ESH; except for the sick kid himself. Granted OP has a right to determine what happens with her own body but imo to simply disregard the kid's needs without even considering helping him makes her just as much an a--hole as the parents were for abandoning her. This is after all a human life we're talking about, and she clearly didn't give a damn. If I were a match and was young enough to be considered for donation (I am 68 so afaik I would be rejected due to age) I'd do it and I don't even know the kid or his parents; just because imo it would be the right thing to do. Doubly so if there were no other matches found. To me the fact that they contacted me only for this reason would be totally irrelevant to me; and I have the same relation with my own extended family *except* for my parents (aunts, uncles, cousins, even grandparents - none of them ever cared about me at all for whatever reason so I never cared about them in turn). But I would still help one of them if their need was as critical; even if only to show I'm the bigger person. Clearly OP is not.
4:52 for all those who are wondering, that is a normal (wild type) cornsnake. This type of snake is a non-venomous type of snake. They are actually recommended to people who are new to owning snakes as first pet (due to their very placid, calm nature). The karen must have really scared the poor thing!
Story 4: I was adopted when I was 5 months old. The only parents I ever knew were my adoptive parents, and they will always be my real parents. Both have passed on, but I do have a relationship with my Bio-Mom. She was 14 when she had me, so I understand the reason why I was adopted. But those BPs in the story, they have their priorities mixed up. At 16, if my BPs had asked me that after "wining and dining" me, I would be a hard NO!
There's more to the story now. I believe R/Slash may have covered it, or Redditor (Jack), cannot remember which of the two, but your jaw will drop when you learn the full reason WHY the baby died.
@kerribottriell-baxter7345 confirm Redditor covered the whole story, including the latest updates. The first story the thumbnail is of a priest due to that part of the updates. ETA: it gets even worse when you find out what happened to his wife after all this. But OP and her daughter are safe and working on therapy and whatnot
@@ChaoticNalilitoMC I did, I was being mindful in those details. The whole thing had me wanting to find this Jeff and... insert whatever imagination gives you, as I know how comments go here, lol.
@@kerribottriell-baxter7345can you fill me in on the details, link the video, or tell me which one? I WANNA KNOW SO BAD. Are they okay now? What was the reason? Is the daughter catching wind of any of this?
That second one: the mother should have been trespassed by every daycare center in the whole town after that fiasco. And she should have gotten her child taken away from her for abandoning him.
Story 4. The family by choice are OP's real family. Period. The biological parents I hope suffered as much as possible, though I hope the brother got a new kidney some other way, since it wasn't his fault and I have no idea if he was a as nasty and selfish as his parents.
Story #3: If the wife had gotten the daughter for any meaningful length of time, she would never ever have given her away again. Story #4: Once again, this is a case of "how to ask for a favor". If the BP had been honest right away, OP might have reasonably considered their request. After all, there is a person's life on the line. But "honest right away" means when first making contact with the AP. Like: "This girl of yours, is she certainly our daughter? Good, her biological brother is sick and needs a matching transplant." All that insincere cosying up, pretending to be interested in OP's life, those are big red flags. Technically, there never was any need for the BP to meet OP at all. Just go right ahead and say: "medical emergency, we need your help."
Yahh.. I know I'm a Bad person. Because even if I was adopted and my BP would come to me (after so many years none the less) and they were up front I would still say "NO". Because as far as I'm concerned family is not made of the DNA that binds people together but family are the people you choose to be around you. And those BP definetly dont deserve anything from OP but a well places middle finger.
I mean the fact that they never even relayed why they gave her up or expressed any sense of loss that bio parents often have when they give up a child for adoption. The fact that they were not honest with the adoptive parents. Adopted or not I be pissed if someone asked my kid for a kidney without asking me first. Can a kid or teen even volunteer a kidney?? IDK but hey were for sure just using her. That is disgusting.
@@j.d.l._666 This is not about what the BP want. It's about a person who needs help, and genetics dictate that OP might be only one capable of helping.
@@herrhartmann3036 might be true but even so. If it were reversed they would not let their son help. Right? Because, why would they. Right? So why should OP help "the brother". Just because they are genetically related? No. It's tough luck and that's how natural selection works 🤷🏾♂️ I know, what I say is hard. But it's the truth. We (humans and this planet) would not have as many problems, if we would just let nature take it's course and we always try to prevent things, that are MEANT to happen. Talk about a lion that would need a kidney Transplantation. We don't do that right? Because, why should we it's just an animal.. Well.. Humans are too.
@@herrhartmann3036 Yeah but OP never even knew her brother existed, so she has no reason to care either. It's 100% on the parents that their child died, not on OP even slightly. If they'd even bothered to reach out before and had some memories with her brother maybe she'd even consider it. They screwed themselves over, and now they presumably have no children at all.
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
Actually there are some poisonous snakes, but that isn't one of them, and you kinda have to bite or handle the snake to get poisoned, and no one would let a kid handle something poisonous.
He would hurt his daughter so when his wife heals he's just going to throw his daughter aside.Then the daughter is destroyed her father threw her away when they were done. Creep isn't even the worst thing I can think
in the update it was found out the fing pos killed his own baby for crying and the wife offed herself from grief...sad and scary to think about if that pos had gotten the little girl
Story 3 - Holy Crap this was crazy, literally and figuratively. That guy Jeff is a freak’n psycho! He should NOT be a father let alone be anywhere near children! I wish OP and her daughter the best for themselves.
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
Story 4: Those are the worst. Abandon your child for 16 years and call just use them as an organ donor. And the APs are correct; OP doesn't owe them anything.
Story #3: I think this story may not get much comments as to OP being able to afford a good ending. I think OP is a smart woman and great mom. This was a bizarre circumstance to be hit with and OP handled it like a master. Even though she reported that things were good and doing better, I still wish her success her life and hope she spends as much time with her daughter as she can afford. Latter years kids will no longer be able to be kids and the world is busy for a smart independent daughter.
Story 1: Just have to slide in with a science fact check and point out that snakes are NOT deaf. They possess inner ears which can pick up vibrations all the same as any animal, and that's what sound ultimately is. Their hearing range is a bit different to humans, but they can most assuredly hear.
I live in Australia, full of snakes, when in their habitat, you are advised to walk heavy and loudly, to scare them away, they are very capable of hearing and feeling the sound and vibration of your footsteps. They are not deaf,just different.
Story 3 does have an update. The BD[baby daddy] sent a priest to the Op job to talk about giving up custody. A few months later the BD withdrew his case in court. Op found out that the wife un-alive herself. Also the BD may have something to do with the baby death. The little give die from shaking baby syndrome. Ijs.
I love your voice and how you emphasize words. You always sound so neutral-happy as you read the situations to us. Thank you very much and I hope you are doing well (and everyone reading this). Please keep up the good work.
There was updates on story 3 So in the updates, Jeff got a priest involved and such. Well, Jeff lied to the priest about being a lady who prohibit him from spending time with his daughter and her being a lady who sleeps around. When he left, op got in contact with the bishop and explained, he said she wont hear from the priest ever again. But then later, she got told that Jeff is dropping the case and everything and leaving op alone. Her lawyer checked and it was legit. Soon, op ran into her Jeff in laws and they apologize about their daughter and how she came to be. Jeff killed the baby from shaking her due to colic (crying non-stop) and she passed away. So the main reason why the case was dropped was Jeff wife, Self-Delete. Jeff also lied to everyone under the sun how op agrees to let them use her daughter as a substitue. After all that Jeff has painted himself as a saint and op as a harlot. He soon spread rumor/lie that he wanted to marry op but she rejected him and was after his money. That lie didnt go well since everyone knew op was not a gold-digger because she has a high income job and she never wanted marriage. So all in all, Jeff killed his child, indirectly killed his wife, dropped his second daughter he had with op. (They are not from the US)
I'm pretty sure everyone knows this by now, but a Karen is basically the grown version of a spoiled daddy's girl 😂😅🤦🏻♂️ And same for the male Karens they're the grown version of a spoiled mama's boy 😂😅🤦🏻♂️
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
What a horrible human being the guy who just wants to use his child to help his traumatized wife, and then dispose the girl as if she is a piece of garbage when they don’t need her anymore. I hope he has a horrible life!
Story one reminds me of my own EP and EK encounter. Had Karen and her spawn at my house (not really friends, just part of the church group my wife was a part of when we lived in that area) and the kid saw my pet cage and started demanding he be allowed to play with the guinea pig, I gently told him he's sleeping and then started to point out something else when he started screaming and his mom rushed over and started yelling at me for being mean to her "little angel". She called me a prick, opened the cage and reached into the little plastic hut thing to grab my pet before yanking her hand out screaming bloody murder that she's been bitten/stung/poisoned. The "guinea pig" she tried to grab was actually a hedgehog, and when she reached her hand in like that he curled up into a spiky ball to protect himself.
Story four: My heart breaks for OP. What a terrible disappointment after having her hopes raised so high! I can understand how the birth parents were desperate to help the child they kept, but to approach OP in that way was tactless beyond belief. A third party should have been used, with a forthright explanation of what was being asked. OP would still be within her rights to refuse, but would not have had her hopes raised ahead of time. Still, now OP knows her adoptive parents are her real family and has no regrets left about being abandoned by the birth mother.
Story 1. Don't ever mess with snakes. Period. Story 3. Depending on the country, it may not even be legal for OP to donate an organ at 16. So even if she'd been willing, she might not have been able to. Good thing she told those creeps to foxtrot oscar regardless.
Last story reminded me of that r/NuclearRevenge story where OP's parents abandoned and disowned him for being gay, then came back years later DEMANDING his kidney to save their golden child, OP's twin brother, who bullied him all his life. OP refused, and felt nothing when the brother eventually passed away.
There's another story about the same, except the golden brother had sex with his girlfriend and op left, same with the kidney or liver. Brother ended up passing away. Parents made sure op was personna non gratta. Hope that spelling was ok.
@@sylviajones6745Almost! You did great! There’s only one ‘n’ and one ‘t’ in there. Persona non grata-Latin for “person not welcome.” It was originally used for government purposes, like an ambassador or diplomat who was no longer welcome in the country, but has been adopted into regular use to mean someone who is not wanted or who is unpopular. Sorry, etymology is a hobby of mine. I love language and its evolution over time. 😊
Story 1: I just wanted to say I love snakes! They’re so cool! Their scales are so silky and pretty! Their eyes are gorgeous! Their biology is fascinating! And their locomotion is super cool!
Story 1: OP should print out a few RELEASE WAIVERS that they can give to these idiots to sign that states they cannot sue if they are bitten. That might lessen this kind of thing. Story 2: Karen abandoned her child on a stranger's front porch all day without handing him to an actual human...and she still has custody? WTAF??? Story 3: As someone who has lost a child I understand what the wife is going through...she needs professional mental help...and a lot of it as she is still in grief phase 1 - denial. Story 4: Oh. Hell. No.
I used to be an educator with AZ Herp Assoc, and had several non-venomous snakes, the majority of them stayed in their display cages, but my Sonoran Gophersnake would allow people to pet her and she was just so gentle. She'd been an education ambassador since she was just a neonate, and grew up to 4.5 ft long.
I worked as a baker in a cafe located in our public library. An event was held in which a snake, a five foot ball python, was introduced and explained to the kids, Remarkably, they were all well behaved. Maybe that was the cake that was also on offer, a cake I made and decorated to resemble the snake. And that last story, I have a couple of second cousins adopted from overseas and by golly they are REAL family, on the family tree and everything. It's not blood that matters, it's love.
Story #3: OOHHH! I know this story!! It's the loo loo woman that thinks she owns OP's kid!! Yeah.. My reaction to this story, still is: cut contact, restraining order and call every Kindergarten, school, event my kid would be and tell the guardians there to NEVER let my kid go with anyone other than MYSELF!
I feel awful for her. It’s Jeff that’s the villain here. The baby had colic and he got sick of her crying so he shook her. He killed their baby. Around the time the case was dropped, the wife parents came by OP’s and told her that their daughter ending up killing herself because of everything
@@w1nterdays I know it's not the womans fault. But come on! How dense were these parents of hers to think it's okey to use another womans child as a replacement INSTEAD of giving her PROPER psychological care? Like, if they knew that jeff Was beeing accused of ending the babys life, why did they even let their daughter stay wtih this dude? Like, they did everything wrong what they could do wrong! They did not stop jeff from having this insane idea of meeting the kid of an unkown woman and they did not stop their daughert from going to this meeting! I belive this carzy meeting and the indulgence of "playing mom" to a kid that's not hers made it worse! I know it's incredibly awefull for the parents of this woman, but I think if they had done stuff differently their daughter might still be alive
Story 2 is actually one of the first Entitled People stories I ever listend to on here, on a different channel. Nice to see it again, and from *DarkFluff* Story 3...is just insane with as many expletives and emphasis-words you can think of. This is just awful. The a-hole Jeff was just going to make his wife's issues WORSE and hurt his own daughter, that he'd totally left out of his life, and the mother, just because he thought this insanity was a good idea.
Story 4: How I imagine this plot started Incubator: Our son deathly ill and we arent matches, what are we gonna do? Sperm donor: Didnt we have some spare parts 16 years ago? Maybe we can guilt it into saving our son.
Came here because Reddit is down Story 1: The woman definitely DOESN'T know anything about animals. And I feel sorry for the little brat, who will most likely end up growing into a bully and a terrible adult since his mother clearly learnt nothing. Good on OP's girlfriend and her friend group to cut Karen out of their lives, tho. Story 2: The Karen was most likely trying to get rid of her son; she doesn't seem to care about him that much. Or maybe she is just insane and deliberately misheard OP and heard what she wanted to hear because she wanted a free babysitter. I don't think she should have been let go but hey, at least she found out OP was telling the truth all along. Story 3: Man, 'Jeff' and his wife are NUTSOS! Maybe the universe made the wife have a miscarriage for a reason. This couple deserves NO kids; in fact, they shouldn't even be NEAR kids! I wish the best for OP and 'Katie'. Story 4: OP's parents are right. She doesn't owe a DAMN thing to her bio parents who basically abandoned her and only pretended to get to know her because they wanted her to save their child. I don't mean to sound like an a**hole, but I KINDA wish their son ends up dying, so they can experience how it feels to lose a child that you LOVE. EDIT: Story 3 had updates. Jeff sent a priest to harass OP. She handled it well and decided to talk to her boss to ban the priest from the workplace. Nothing came out of that. The sad part is the next and currently latest update: Jeff's wife died (no specified reason) and Jeff gave up. OP later found out, through Jeff's in-laws (they turned out to be actually decent people) that Jeff had K*LL*D his previous baby, by SHAKING him to make him stop crying (I guess he learned nothing from Peter Griffin. Sorry, bad place to make a joke). OP managed to get her lawyer to force Jeff not to have any contact with her OR Katie. OP thinks Jeff is getting the kama he deserves for painting himself as the victim he isn't. Sadly, Jeff didn't get jailed (he has A LOT of money and influence), but I still hope someone eventually learns that he k*ll*d his bio child and that he rots in prison and hell.
I own Great Danes. Large Scooby Doo dogs. I had one where I would constantly take out to an outdoor mall. She was an impressive 3ft tall. I was a small 5’4” 150lbs. The dog was also 150lbs. A lot of people wanted to take pictures with her which I was fine with. A man once asked to please hold her leash because he didn’t want me in the picture. I told him no, he is not trained, I am. He said if my small frame can handle her she can he since he’s much larger and stronger than me. Luckily his wife shut him down. Even if OP was a babysitter and agreed to take her son in. Don’t you need to agree on a rate and sign a contract? That man should never be allowed to procreate ever again. That wife needs therapy and meds, not a child fill in. My husband suddenly lost his godson before we met. I understand the depression one goes through. I could never ask my kids to give up an organ for another. Once they are adults and decide to do it on their own free will, that’s on them. Put another child’s life at risk to save another, no.
As a recipient of a kidney, i can see where the mum and dad were coming from. I was so miserable and thought about ending it many times. I dread to think what my family would have done to help me at that point.
#2 That Karen just assumed that OP MUST be available to take care of her kid at OP's home as a babysitter, NOT at the day care. What a case of The Stupid ! What a case of Entitlement ! #3 Using someone else kid as a surrogate kid to «replace» a kid who suddenly died is NOT good for anyone, and extremely bad for the child. Don't let that man near ANY child, or any elderly person. #4 So, after some 16 years, the BP wanted that OP become a spare parts pool for their son... That's light years beyond entitled.
Story 3: OP offered him the chance to be involved in his daughters life from when she was born and refused. He only wanted to be involved when his child with his wife passed away which is sad, and no one should ever have to go through losing a child. For his wife calling OP's child another name, and the both of them wanting OP's daughter to help the "wife" recover, and then threaten to apply for full custody is delusional. I wish OP the best moving forward, and don't let the "so called dad" or his delusional wife anywhere near your child or family, and take all steps to prevent them from trying to pickup your daughter from school. If they know where you live then put up security cameras all around the outside of the house.
Second story: lady why did you leave your kid on someone’s porch?! Even if op was doing at home babysitting service you should have waited until someone let him in not just assuming that someone let him in. That’s like someone who has pets and an electric gate leaving without looking to see if the gate closed.
Snake story: I was waiting for the kid to go after psycho snake and getting tagged. But while EP got what she deserved, about the time she started disrespecting me in my own home is the time she would have been shown the door... hard if necessary. Daycare vs babysitter story: Who in their right mind drops their kid off at a stranger's house without first making sure someone is home and takes them into the house? Especially when it's a 5 year old kid? It's not like a school where you just let them out of the car to run into the building. "Therapy doll" daughter story: There was another update for this story. OP learned that Jeff's wife died (suicide) and Jeff had actually caused their baby's death by shaking the baby when it wouldn't stop crying. Jeff somehow managed to walk due to family money. Give kidney story: While I truly can't blame the BPs for exploring every possible avenue to help their son, they should have been completely upfront about it from the start with OP and APs. But given how they went about it leading OP and APs into thinking they wanted a relationship now definitely makes them the AHs!
Third story: Now that was creepy. It appears that woman lost her child still a toddler, hence wanted to treat a 6 years old girl a toddler. That guy was more then willing to sacrifice the mental well being of her daughter instead of seeking professional help for his wife. What a monster.
Not even a toddler. Turns out the baby had colic and Jeff got fed up with the crying so he shook her, killing her. The wife knew the truth while everyone else believed Jeff was innocent. She ended up killing herself
My mom remarried when I was 2 and my brother was 5. My brother and I had to do visitation for 8 years. Our biological father gave up his rights so our dad could adopt us. He did that so he wouldn't be on the hook for over $50k in back child support. I saw him once when I was 17. He tried to make amends, but it was too late. He knew that and I knew that. I invited him to my wedding when I was 19. My dad was my best man and he was in the seating area. Last time I saw him was about 14yrs ago. My brother told him I had a son. My son is 15 now and my daughter is 8. My biological father knows about them but hasn't seen them. My wife and I adopted both of our kids. We see our daughter's biological family more than my son's biological family. Few reasons behind that, but I won't get into it. When my son was old enough to understand that he was adopted, my dad tried to tell him that I was adopted by him and that I have 2 dads. I told my dad that no I don't, I just have 1 dad. That made him choke up. That was the 2nd time I've ever seen him shed tears
Okay, so it’s actually a common myth that snakes are deaf. They do have inner ears, and have muffled hearing, though the OP is correct when he says it vibration-based. I believe they may have been simplifying it for readers’ sakes
Last story: right, the girl doesn’t owe her biological parents anything. At the same time though, she has a brother that has never done anything to her, and she’s just going to let him die to spite the parents who abandoned her?! I don’t know how I could live with myself after that.
NOT Babysitter! Karen didn't even ask the babysitting rate. She'd try to make OP to babysit for FREE! Also wanting for FREE SNACKS AND LUNCH for her kid.
Story 3 actually disturbed me a bit. Story 4, remember this, anyone can be a mother or father, it takes special people full of love to be a mum or dad.
Is it worth mentioning that the first story didn't specify that the snake wasn't venomous? There are venomous snakes which are dangerous enough to mice and things, but their venom isn't going to cause harm to even a baby, let alone a full grown adult human.
Story one the snake guy sounds like a very responsible owner so I’m guessing if he did keep venomous snakes for any reason (some people milk them as a business) then he would not bring it out when people were there, especially children. People need to learn that their kids can’t always have what they want and kids need to learn boundaries so they don’t always expect to get what they want
Was story 3 in the United States? In Texas at least, mothers are not allowed to refuse child support. It's considered the CHILD's money, not the mother's.
When my son was 5 he was fearless and my friend had a baby pet python that he let my son hold one day. After holding the snake for a while, my son kissed it on the head and handed it back to my friend, only for it to open its mouth and latch on to my friend’s hand! We never told my mum this story otherwise my son would never be allowed outside, ever!!!!
Buddy of mine had an illegal water mocassin (very venomous) in his collection of snakes. During a Superbowl party, two very drunk girls (he didn't know) went into his basement unescorted (where he keeps all of his snakes, lizards, iguanas. etc.) One girl decided to "play with a snake" while the other took a Snapchat or something. She chose the mocassin vivarium. Once out of the glass container, it bit her which caused her to THROW IT AT HER FRIEND! Both girls started screaming, the snake disappeared and 911 had to be called. Funny: the hospital didn't have any antivenom and the zoo was closed. Long story short, my friend relinquished his pet to the zoo, which used its venom for a cure. Do not F with Snakes!
Story 1: I don't understand why some parents don't set limits on their kids, even when it's for their own good. A friend of a friend got mad at me, after I scolded her son, for running around without any care, near my collection of cacti, which, by the way, are VERY, VERY POINTY! And she had the audacity to say that it's my fault, because "you should put them away when I have visitors with kids" . By the way, she brought her son without warning.
Oh god I remember story 3…. That one is awful. Jeff did drop trying to peruse custody of OPs kid, and OP actually ran into his in-laws by complete chance, where they actually apologized for their daughters actions. Op of course said that even if that was the case, she wouldn’t feels safe with her anywhere near her kid, but the parents actually dropped the bombshell that Jeff’s wife had self-terminated out of grief, and turns out Jeff was the reason for his baby’s death due to him shaking them as the child suffered from colic I believe and the child wouldn’t stop crying. Man killed his kid, indirectly killed his wife, and then had the audacity to walk free from his crimes due to corruption and bribing his way out (from what I remember) was disgusting and utterly tragic. Thank god OP and their kid are safe from him and moving
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I think it was because sids and shaken baby syndrome looks identical.
So unless you get them on tape, or confessing it to the police they don't get charged.
@@vickymc9695 yeah I think so, and it didn’t help that SIDS is sadly quite common in their country from what op said so they thought it was that and Jeff even tried to say it was, but I don’t remember how but the truth came out and Jeff was the one responsible for the death of his child, and that sent his wife into a spiral and to the point of a psychological break, hence why she was calling ops daughter a different name and was insisting on changing her diaper and saying op was trying to kidnap her “daughter”. She was too far gone in grief and mental breakdown that she couldn’t even see what was reality anymore, me thinks. Jeff is by far one of the most vile creatures I’ve heard about from a Reddit story as of late
Absolutely no, sids and shaken baby are completely different. Geeze people, all ya gotta do is look in the brain and eyes.
The thing that sucks about it is that, if this was in Ohio, having another adult sue for custody on your behalf is currently the only legal way for a child to escape their family if they were being abused, but the state doesn't allow that as an option in the first place until the child is over the age of 10. But, this dude was misunderstanding & misusing the hell out of that weird loophole- kid didn't know him & was too young to have an opinion really count in court anyway, nor was the kid in any obvious or demonstrable danger from the legal parents.
I've owned snakes and even snapping turtles. No touching period, if you insist, you will be asked to leave. DONE!
I want to see an entitled jerk to try pick up a snapping turtle
You might have less fingers attached than you came in with, but please don't leave any of them on my floor😂!!!
I also own snakes, ball pythons. I do let people handle my two biggest, but few in my family do bc most of them don’t care much for touching snakes. All that being said, I don’t let people touch my pets without permission.
I don't get how some people who don't really know the animals, think THEY have a say in allowing THEIR kids to touch them?! Really? You know nothing about the temperament of the animals?
I think I'd have just let the psycho snake deal with this situation, as long as it wasn't in any danger from the kid.
Story 2: Oh, another one of those "I'll leave my child with you unannounced" kinds of parents. And the triple downing just to try to avoid getting jailed. What an idiot
Why did they let her enroll at the daycare?! That is such a huge liability knowing her disposition. It seems virtually guaranteed she will have a blowup against the daycare center at some point.
"shes lieing i saw her through the window before i dropped him off" isnt that basicly stalking?
@@housinengi9512 in my jurisdiction looking through a home window is indeed under the stalking and harassment laws.
She had one venomous snake enter her home uninvited. I don't think she's going to own one if she shows snakes to kids.
Story 1 - People need to realize that a hard NO means NO. I was working with a piece of equipment...this kid wanted to "help". I said hard no, the mom said yes, and before I said why mom grabbed it for the kid...and it shocked the F out of her. She was sitting there with eyes wide open and mouth agape...I yelled "THAT WAS WHY I SAID NO!"
Not much more to the story. They were a couple of randos walking by and I was on my property in a garage 20 feet from the street. I asked if she was okay and she kind of nursed her hand and walked off with the kid. I had been hit by it doing the repair and it was painful...but not as bad as touching a hot pan or oven.
I'm Gen-X, there would have been hands thrown immediately.
Darwin Award runner ups
You don't force help, I don't get what's so hard to understand about "NO" it's just 2 letters ffs.
The snake needs to be checked to make sure EP Karen didn't POISON IT!
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Story 3: you don't have all of the info, Fluff. It's MUCH darker than "Jeff" and his wife recently losing a child, and the wife's not handling it well.
The baby died of shaken baby syndrome when "Jeff" got irritated at her crying because of croup and shook her so hard that he killed her.
THAT'S also what the wife's trying to deal with, Jeff covering up what he did in front of everyone, while she knows the truth. 😢
It gets worse.
As things get crazier for OP and her daughter, she makes sure to get them both as far from Jeff as possible, and at some point the wife's parents come to OP to apologize to her for all of the trouble, tell her that their daughter (the wife) unalived herself, and it was because of what Jeff did.
It's not a crazy story. It's a heartbreaking and gut wrenching story. 😢😢😢
OMG! That’s horrible! Why isn’t Jeff in jail?
@DarkenVampirDragon-x3u I don't remember if OP said whether Jeff faced criminal charges after his wife's suicide.
I'm trying to remember where I heard the entire story, because I think it came in parts with updates.
ETA it wasn't terribly long ago that I heard this, and it was here on RUclips, but a different channel.
I'm going to try to remember or find it.
and you know this all...how?
@dakotastein9499 look at my reply before your question.
It's above you. 👆👆👆
Story 1: This is one of the many reasons uninvited guests should always be turned away at the door. No invitation, no entry.
Story 2: That child should have been placed into foster care. Some parents deserve to have their parenting privileges revoked!
Story 3: Kidnapping is never okay! Jeff and his wife shouldn't have been allowed near any children ever again.
Story 4: OP made the right decision. Abandonment is not okay, and demanding an organ transplant is even worse.
For story 2: ideally, yes, but the foster care system is kind of a crapshoot, so it’s not a guarantee that the child would be better off taken away from her. And I’m guessing it was a first-time offense (and technically one that could be attributed to legitimate stupidity on her part rather than a deliberate decision to harm/neglect her child.) So all we can do is hope she got it through her head not to make that egregiously dumb of a decision again.
@@PositiveStellarLuckyAchiever Story 3 Update: Wife died, and Jeff seemingly gave up. Seems like the universe's way of telling them that they didn't deserve kids.
@@elmasterdezoologia6641 Is that true or are you making up your own ending?
@@tmntfangirl4700 Trust me, it's true. Go read it.
@tmntfangirl4700 There was another comment here. Apparently, Jeff gave their (Jeff and wife) child shaken baby syndrome, unaliving it in the process which drove the mother into a mental breakdown, where she unalive herself as well.
last story.. Well, I'm an adopted child who has never met their bio parents, but wholeheartedly love the parents who adopted and raised me. If my Bio family appeared out of nowhere demanding my body parts.. well they should be glad I'm in Canada, because if I were in America fire arms might become involved.
If family ever forces you to be tested tell the dr you are being forced to be tested and they will just tell your family you arent a match
They didn't try to force her into anything. They are just desperate parents losing their son. So they try crazy, stupid things. Probably illegal too, as I don't see how a child could give any consent for being chopped up for whatever reason out. But killing them for being desperate? That's just evil and heartless. Especially as their son is in critical need of them.
turn of plot: BP were complete strangers paid by AP to look like a.holes so the adopted kid lose interest (I know a real story)
I love the idea of someone getting bitten by a snake, yelling "Call 911, I'm poisoned!" while someone nearby adjusts their glasses and says "Um, actually, snakes are venomous, not poisonous."
As a guy who has 4 snakes I can totally relate to this story. My largest snake is so chill you could wear him as a neck tie. Another snake is tame but active to the point where if you hold him you have to pay attention or he will get out of your grip. Then my smallest nope rope, he thinks he’s king and has bitten me a few times. He’s still a good snake, just young and cautious
Edit: cool snake OP 👍
It's always the smallest that seems to have "big man" syndrome lol. Same thing applies to dogs
Thank goodness that the snake isn't one of those super small ones. Since iirc, the smallest one are often the deadliest in their bites.
Kinda looks like a ball python but can't see his head😢!
@@marshawargo7238Pythons are cool
@@CinderXiaoLongyes, like Chihuahuas thinking that they're hellhounds and rottweilers being giant babies. 😂 Gotta love em.
Story 2: This woman is just another example of a poor parent leaving their kids in front of someone door without calling OP beforehand because of me time.
Edit: And let’s not forget expecting free service because they can’t/don’t pay for a babysitter.
That was crazy. Who leaves their kid on a stranger's porch and just assumes the new neighbor is a) home b) willing to babysit c) competent to babysit!?
@@fdm2155 A delusional, entitled person who thinks the world is always available to bow to their own needs.
@@fdm2155 one willing to permanently lose the kid. The kid deserves a good parent.
It's an example of someone who is willing to leave their child unattended without checking, because if anything happened they can blame somebody else. A real patent would have waited until somebody (not a kidnapper) took them.
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Story 3 gets really insane with further updates as Jeff sends a priest as a flying monkey to religiously guilt and shame OP into handing over her daughter while at her place of work. And then in the latest update it turns out Jeff got away with murdering his baby by shaking the poor child for being colicky, this was revealed when OP bumped into Jeff's In-Laws (Jeff's Wife died by her own hand due to the overwhelming grief)
OMG that's why they used to do public service announcements on purple crying.
"Sends a priest as a flying monkey"? O_o
As admittedly hilarious as that image is (the mental image I get is of one of the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz dressed as a Catholic priest) I'm not sure I get it... is this like a thing in Hinduism or something?
@@illuminocalypse5210a flying monkey in this instance is a way to describe people around a person swooping in to attack another person. For example: Patty has a fight with her cousin Brenda. Patty refuses to speak to Brenda or forgive her for her actions. Brenda then goes and sobs to other family members with a twisted version of events and the family members believe her. Said family members then attack Patty on Brenda's behalf, pushing at her to forgive Brenda. It IS related to the Wizard of Oz. Remember the flying monkeys attacking Dorothy on behalf of the wicked witch? That's exactly what Brenda's family are doing in my example and Brenda is the wicked witch.
In the case of the story in the video, Jeff is the wicked witch and after twisting the narrative to the priest the priest became a flying monkey attacking OP to change her mind. It has nothing to do with Hinduism... no idea where you'd get that notion.
@@illuminocalypse5210Hinduism? How does that have anything to do with it?
Got links to the story?
Story 1: Fuck around and find out. So sorry that poor snake was scared so badly by such an entitled parent.
That last story, it's not the first time you've read a story about a girl put up for adoption, only for the birth family to track her down years later solely so they can use the child they threw out for spare parts. At least this family wasn't as insane about it as the Chinese family I remember you reading about.
Oh shit you saw that too? Wait didn't they try to sue the girl for her organs citing "parenthood" as the reason why they were entitled to her parts?
@IAA2152 The one I recall Fluff talking about, the family came looking because their son (they'd specifically given her up because she was a girl) had leukemia and needed a bone marrow transplant. The adoptive father was initially all in favor, until he found out the process wasn't risk-free for his daughter. He said no, and the birth family raised hell, to the point her birth mother came to her school and demanded she undergo the procedure.
@@mhfuzzball Man, I remember that. What a sh*tshow
I would've expected and tell the doctor that I'm being coerced into donating my kidney and watch as the glimmer of hope faded as it did for me, if my PB pretended to love me
@@mhfuzzball Chinese people don't have participation trophy syndrome, only westerners do (well, including Chinese who were raised in the west). But they have little emperor syndrome due to one child policy. While the symptoms are similar, the reason is very different.
Easy way to remember the difference:
If it bites you and you die, it’s venomous; if you bite it and you die, it’s poisonous
🤣 I once had an English teacher who didn't belive a friend of mine when she tried to explain him that "venom" and "poison" mean different things. Because in our language (Deutsch) both means just "giftig". We don't distinguish between "getting bit" or "biting/ eating" it. It's all the same in German. My friend then showed him a video from some biologist that explained it and only then our English teacher believed us 😅
the snake gets the owie reverse card
If it bites you and someone else dies, that's Voodoo.
On the second story, that woman should not be a mother.
That statement applies to so many stories on this channel.
Sounds like she needs a visit from CPS! 😮
@@lancerevell5979 ABSOLUTELY!!!
She isn't a mother; she is merely an egg donor.
That last story: so if the girl gave up her kidney, then years later she has a child who has kidney failure--she wouldn't be able to save her own child!
Not only this! What if OP will have problems with one kidney in the future? Nah! Don't endager your life for a stranger! Especially when the surgery alone can be super dangerous!
@@j.d.l._666this. Kidney donor surgery is risky.
Also, the surgery and recovery is way worse for the donor.
@@andrewforte i imagine so! Probably more blood loss for the donor and a lot of post op pain for both.
Story 2 - I immediately suspected that Karen was going to leave her son at OP’s house the second she mentioned what her job is. But leave it to a stupid Karen to misinterpret ‘daycare worker’ for ‘free babysitter’
That lady in story 2 is damn lucky. Sometimes kids don’t need to wander off to get kidnapped. And honestly, I’m surprised they let her off at all.
I’ve thought this before with other, similar stories, but why would anyone just drop their kid off on someone’s doorstep without knocking and waiting for an actual answer? I wouldn’t leave my kids until I saw them go into the house with the person that was supposed to watch them.
What this Karen did is just utterly ridiculous.
"Thank goodness that snake wasn't venomous."
I'm gonna have to agree to disagree.
The snake in the picture op shared looks like a copperhead and they are venomous but rarely kill.
@@feiery looks like a corn snake with a morph to me, but the head isnt visible so hard to make positive ID for me who is barely into reptile
@feiery It's a corn snake actually. They look similar but aren't actually venomous.
Source: I found the post on Reddit and the OP says it's a corn snake
I think IT is a Ball python.
@@tomeeshahaller4226 Ohhh. Ok. Thank you for clearing that up. 😊😊
Story 1: That right there is exactly how people learn.
Story 2: That woman simply heard what she wanted to hear she didn't hear what was actually said.
I can understand the desperation of needing an organ donor for a dying son, to a degree... but the way they went about it, wtf. Also, to sue someone to take their daughter is a whole other degree of insanity. As for the stupid mom thinking the daycare worker was a babysitter, she's just incredibly stupid... but not as stupid as Jeff. Not even close.
Also, snakes are cool.
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Yes to everything you said! 100%!
As someone in need of a kidney transplant, the story about the adopted kid meeting their biological parents makes me so mad! How dare they! Organ donation is serious stuff. It's not like giving someone money. The donor is free to back out at any time, even the day of the surgery. My brother back out, and I don't blame him. It's pretty scary, plus what if one of his future kids needs a kidney?
Right? Like they were asking to borrow her bike or something, sheesh.
I'm sorry you're going through that situation yourself, and I hope the best for your health and recovery 🙏
@@kelliatlarge Thank you!
Story 2 is insane. Admitting that she saw her through the window (eg: just dumped the kid and ran expecting OP to be moral enough to so the right thing basically) is top tier self-snitching. What kind of demon does that to their own kid?!
Story 2: There is a reason psych evaluation should need to happen before they reproduce.
Yes, but if that happened the world population would plummet. 😂 And unfortunately it's not a cure as I've seen absolute idiots have smart kids and really intelligent people have idiots. Sometimes it's a crap shoot.
@@paulagoeringer9466no more inflation atleast
@@paulagoeringer9466 Good! There are far too many of us for Earth to handle.
@@paulagoeringer9466at least the intelligent people would be able to take care of their kids, regardless of what the kids themselves were like.
that is called eugenics and this movement is progressed solely by racism & ableism. I understand many people do not deserve to have children because they are horrible or deeply mentally unwell in some way, but this kind of thing is used to deny parental rights to GOOD parents, too. a high-functioning autistic with partial deafness (for random example) may be MUCH better suited to parenthood than a fully able-minded able bodied person. placing rules & regulations on the act of reproduction can only lead to fascism. there is simply no other alternative.
*Story 4-* My hubby and I have an adorable niece that my sister and brother-in-law adopted from birth. We know she has siblings and they know who her parents are, but her parents have a bad drug addiction.
Her parents have tried to get to her, but everyone around her is not letting them get near that little girl!
Story four.... Even if OP did get tested and is found a match, she has no obligation to those egg/sperm donors. The Doctor can tell them she isn't a match, to protect her.
In addition to being Arrested for Child Endangerment, OP should have called CPS on her...
I would have...
And if she Sued be for Endangering her kid and/or told everyone that I'm a horrible Babysitter, I'd have Sued her for Harassment and (if applicable) Slander, Libel and Defamation of Character...
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Thank goodness the OP in Story 3 had the money to tell deadbeat bio-dad to pound sand and even move herself and her daughter to safety if necessary.
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
Final Story - What disgusting selfish people. They gave up OP when she was younger and then they came back into her life, not to start a relationship with her but to use her as a savior child for her brother that she’s never even met!
OP made the right choice in leaving and her adopted parents ARE her real parents.
Not even a savior child. Literally just "spare parts."
I wonder if the boy was older or younger? I get the feeling that a girl wasn't acceptable and they only wanted a son. There are some pathetic people still around in this day and age like that. Thank God she got adopted by her wonderful parents.
A shame no one seems to care about the son they wanted to save; presumably he is innocent regarding this shady meet up. Hopefully they were able to save him somehow; after all near as I can tell none of this was his fault.
@jasontoddman7265 exactly but not just that but we really don't know what they talked about and the only thing that seen to make op mad was the question but they didn't seem like bad people and we don't really know if they were really interested in forming a relationship with op while they also asked for help. If I'm recalling the story right op just left and didn't even hear out if they were only asking during this meeting because he didn't have much time left and were trying to save him and get reconnect to her and her brother too.
@@udiar Yes, that's one reason why I think ESH; except for the sick kid himself. Granted OP has a right to determine what happens with her own body but imo to simply disregard the kid's needs without even considering helping him makes her just as much an a--hole as the parents were for abandoning her. This is after all a human life we're talking about, and she clearly didn't give a damn. If I were a match and was young enough to be considered for donation (I am 68 so afaik I would be rejected due to age) I'd do it and I don't even know the kid or his parents; just because imo it would be the right thing to do. Doubly so if there were no other matches found. To me the fact that they contacted me only for this reason would be totally irrelevant to me; and I have the same relation with my own extended family *except* for my parents (aunts, uncles, cousins, even grandparents - none of them ever cared about me at all for whatever reason so I never cared about them in turn). But I would still help one of them if their need was as critical; even if only to show I'm the bigger person. Clearly OP is not.
We love our little danger noodles
4:52 for all those who are wondering, that is a normal (wild type) cornsnake. This type of snake is a non-venomous type of snake. They are actually recommended to people who are new to owning snakes as first pet (due to their very placid, calm nature). The karen must have really scared the poor thing!
Story 4: I was adopted when I was 5 months old. The only parents I ever knew were my adoptive parents, and they will always be my real parents. Both have passed on, but I do have a relationship with my Bio-Mom. She was 14 when she had me, so I understand the reason why I was adopted. But those BPs in the story, they have their priorities mixed up. At 16, if my BPs had asked me that after "wining and dining" me, I would be a hard NO!
On the third story, that guy is a NUT JOB. Good luck op and to your daughter also.
Heard story 3 before
There's more to the story now. I believe R/Slash may have covered it, or Redditor (Jack), cannot remember which of the two, but your jaw will drop when you learn the full reason WHY the baby died.
@kerribottriell-baxter7345 confirm Redditor covered the whole story, including the latest updates. The first story the thumbnail is of a priest due to that part of the updates.
ETA: it gets even worse when you find out what happened to his wife after all this. But OP and her daughter are safe and working on therapy and whatnot
@@ChaoticNalilitoMC I did, I was being mindful in those details. The whole thing had me wanting to find this Jeff and... insert whatever imagination gives you, as I know how comments go here, lol.
@@kerribottriell-baxter7345can you fill me in on the details, link the video, or tell me which one? I WANNA KNOW SO BAD. Are they okay now? What was the reason? Is the daughter catching wind of any of this?
That second one: the mother should have been trespassed by every daycare center in the whole town after that fiasco. And she should have gotten her child taken away from her for abandoning him.
Story 4. The family by choice are OP's real family. Period.
The biological parents I hope suffered as much as possible, though I hope the brother got a new kidney some other way, since it wasn't his fault and I have no idea if he was a as nasty and selfish as his parents.
Story #3:
If the wife had gotten the daughter for any meaningful length of time, she would never ever have given her away again.
Story #4:
Once again, this is a case of "how to ask for a favor".
If the BP had been honest right away, OP might have reasonably considered their request. After all, there is a person's life on the line.
But "honest right away" means when first making contact with the AP. Like: "This girl of yours, is she certainly our daughter? Good, her biological brother is sick and needs a matching transplant."
All that insincere cosying up, pretending to be interested in OP's life, those are big red flags.
Technically, there never was any need for the BP to meet OP at all. Just go right ahead and say: "medical emergency, we need your help."
Yahh.. I know I'm a Bad person. Because even if I was adopted and my BP would come to me (after so many years none the less) and they were up front I would still say "NO". Because as far as I'm concerned family is not made of the DNA that binds people together but family are the people you choose to be around you. And those BP definetly dont deserve anything from OP but a well places middle finger.
I mean the fact that they never even relayed why they gave her up or expressed any sense of loss that bio parents often have when they give up a child for adoption. The fact that they were not honest with the adoptive parents. Adopted or not I be pissed if someone asked my kid for a kidney without asking me first. Can a kid or teen even volunteer a kidney?? IDK but hey were for sure just using her. That is disgusting.
@@j.d.l._666 This is not about what the BP want. It's about a person who needs help, and genetics dictate that OP might be only one capable of helping.
@@herrhartmann3036 might be true but even so. If it were reversed they would not let their son help. Right? Because, why would they. Right? So why should OP help "the brother". Just because they are genetically related? No. It's tough luck and that's how natural selection works 🤷🏾♂️
I know, what I say is hard. But it's the truth. We (humans and this planet) would not have as many problems, if we would just let nature take it's course and we always try to prevent things, that are MEANT to happen. Talk about a lion that would need a kidney Transplantation. We don't do that right? Because, why should we it's just an animal.. Well.. Humans are too.
@@herrhartmann3036 Yeah but OP never even knew her brother existed, so she has no reason to care either. It's 100% on the parents that their child died, not on OP even slightly. If they'd even bothered to reach out before and had some memories with her brother maybe she'd even consider it. They screwed themselves over, and now they presumably have no children at all.
Story 3... why did OP even expose her kid to the insane baby daddy? I would have shut that shit down before any kind of contact.
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
Actually there are some poisonous snakes, but that isn't one of them, and you kinda have to bite or handle the snake to get poisoned, and no one would let a kid handle something poisonous.
What Karen expect from a snake? Of course she'll be bitten.
He would hurt his daughter so when his wife heals he's just going to throw his daughter aside.Then the daughter is destroyed her father threw her away when they were done. Creep isn't even the worst thing I can think
in the update it was found out the fing pos killed his own baby for crying and the wife offed herself from grief...sad and scary to think about if that pos had gotten the little girl
For story 2, I wonder how she got the address. Also just dropping off with no discussion of payment or anything at all. What a lunatic.
Story 3 - Holy Crap this was crazy, literally and figuratively. That guy Jeff is a freak’n psycho! He should NOT be a father let alone be anywhere near children!
I wish OP and her daughter the best for themselves.
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
Story 4: Those are the worst. Abandon your child for 16 years and call just use them as an organ donor. And the APs are correct; OP doesn't owe them anything.
Story 1: some people are more venomous than any snake could be. Like the Karen in this instance 😂
Story #3: I think this story may not get much comments as to OP being able to afford a good ending. I think OP is a smart woman and great mom. This was a bizarre circumstance to be hit with and OP handled it like a master. Even though she reported that things were good and doing better, I still wish her success her life and hope she spends as much time with her daughter as she can afford. Latter years kids will no longer be able to be kids and the world is busy for a smart independent daughter.
Story 1: Just have to slide in with a science fact check and point out that snakes are NOT deaf. They possess inner ears which can pick up vibrations all the same as any animal, and that's what sound ultimately is. Their hearing range is a bit different to humans, but they can most assuredly hear.
I live in Australia, full of snakes, when in their habitat, you are advised to walk heavy and loudly, to scare them away, they are very capable of hearing and feeling the sound and vibration of your footsteps. They are not deaf,just different.
Story 3 does have an update. The BD[baby daddy] sent a priest to the Op job to talk about giving up custody. A few months later the BD withdrew his case in court. Op found out that the wife un-alive herself. Also the BD may have something to do with the baby death. The little give die from shaking baby syndrome. Ijs.
Well, that’s a lot of terrible and sad information.
I love your voice and how you emphasize words.
You always sound so neutral-happy as you read the situations to us.
Thank you very much and I hope you are doing well (and everyone reading this).
Please keep up the good work.
There was updates on story 3
So in the updates, Jeff got a priest involved and such. Well, Jeff lied to the priest about being a lady who prohibit him from spending time with his daughter and her being a lady who sleeps around. When he left, op got in contact with the bishop and explained, he said she wont hear from the priest ever again. But then later, she got told that Jeff is dropping the case and everything and leaving op alone. Her lawyer checked and it was legit. Soon, op ran into her Jeff in laws and they apologize about their daughter and how she came to be. Jeff killed the baby from shaking her due to colic (crying non-stop) and she passed away. So the main reason why the case was dropped was Jeff wife, Self-Delete. Jeff also lied to everyone under the sun how op agrees to let them use her daughter as a substitue.
After all that Jeff has painted himself as a saint and op as a harlot. He soon spread rumor/lie that he wanted to marry op but she rejected him and was after his money. That lie didnt go well since everyone knew op was not a gold-digger because she has a high income job and she never wanted marriage. So all in all, Jeff killed his child, indirectly killed his wife, dropped his second daughter he had with op.
(They are not from the US)
I'm pretty sure everyone knows this by now, but a Karen is basically the grown version of a spoiled daddy's girl 😂😅🤦🏻♂️
And same for the male Karens they're the grown version of a spoiled mama's boy 😂😅🤦🏻♂️
Being treated as an “emergency organ bag” is an automatic no for me, and hopefully everyone else
I don’t think lady from story 3 is not a Karen but traumatize😭😭😭 but kidnapping another woman’s child is not the way!!!
Story 3 update: OP bumped into the parents (coincidental). They apologize to OP on their daughter's behalf, but OP mention she still wouldn't feel safe around her (even after Jeff sent a priest to guilt-trap OP into giving up custody). Then the parents dropped this bomb: their daughter committed suicide from the grief. And the REAL reason their baby died was because of Jeff. The baby's crying got on his nerves and shook her hard enough to kill her. Thanks to corruption and bribery, he, unfortunately, got away scot-free
What a horrible human being the guy who just wants to use his child to help his traumatized wife, and then dispose the girl as if she is a piece of garbage when they don’t need her anymore. I hope he has a horrible life!
Story 3 has a wild update. It involves infanticide, suicide & some other crazy stuff. But the OP & her daughter are fine.
I feel bad for the snake and I'm terrified of them.
Story one reminds me of my own EP and EK encounter. Had Karen and her spawn at my house (not really friends, just part of the church group my wife was a part of when we lived in that area) and the kid saw my pet cage and started demanding he be allowed to play with the guinea pig, I gently told him he's sleeping and then started to point out something else when he started screaming and his mom rushed over and started yelling at me for being mean to her "little angel". She called me a prick, opened the cage and reached into the little plastic hut thing to grab my pet before yanking her hand out screaming bloody murder that she's been bitten/stung/poisoned. The "guinea pig" she tried to grab was actually a hedgehog, and when she reached her hand in like that he curled up into a spiky ball to protect himself.
These stories make me so grateful for the quiet, simple life I have. Some may call it boring, but I never have to deal with drama like this stuff😂❤
Story four: My heart breaks for OP. What a terrible disappointment after having her hopes raised so high! I can understand how the birth parents were desperate to help the child they kept, but to approach OP in that way was tactless beyond belief. A third party should have been used, with a forthright explanation of what was being asked.
OP would still be within her rights to refuse, but would not have had her hopes raised ahead of time. Still, now OP knows her adoptive parents are her real family and has no regrets left about being abandoned by the birth mother.
Story 1. Don't ever mess with snakes. Period.
Story 3. Depending on the country, it may not even be legal for OP to donate an organ at 16. So even if she'd been willing, she might not have been able to. Good thing she told those creeps to foxtrot oscar regardless.
Last story reminded me of that r/NuclearRevenge story where OP's parents abandoned and disowned him for being gay, then came back years later DEMANDING his kidney to save their golden child, OP's twin brother, who bullied him all his life.
OP refused, and felt nothing when the brother eventually passed away.
There's another story about the same, except the golden brother had sex with his girlfriend and op left, same with the kidney or liver. Brother ended up passing away. Parents made sure op was personna non gratta. Hope that spelling was ok.
@@sylviajones6745Almost! You did great! There’s only one ‘n’ and one ‘t’ in there. Persona non grata-Latin for “person not welcome.”
It was originally used for government purposes, like an ambassador or diplomat who was no longer welcome in the country, but has been adopted into regular use to mean someone who is not wanted or who is unpopular.
Sorry, etymology is a hobby of mine. I love language and its evolution over time. 😊
Story 1: I just wanted to say I love snakes! They’re so cool! Their scales are so silky and pretty! Their eyes are gorgeous! Their biology is fascinating! And their locomotion is super cool!
Story 1: That snake did everyone a favour and got rid of that toxic woman.😂
Story 1: OP should print out a few RELEASE WAIVERS that they can give to these idiots to sign that states they cannot sue if they are bitten. That might lessen this kind of thing.
Story 2: Karen abandoned her child on a stranger's front porch all day without handing him to an actual human...and she still has custody? WTAF???
Story 3: As someone who has lost a child I understand what the wife is going through...she needs professional mental help...and a lot of it as she is still in grief phase 1 - denial.
Story 4: Oh. Hell. No.
Danger noodle, I love it!😂😂
That "Noodle" is adorable, it must be a Python.
Danger Noodle, Nope Rope, Snek, Snake all the same thing!
@@JadenYukifan28 I love adorable noodles.
@JadenYukifan28 it looks like a variant yes. I forget what their called...but their cute orange noodles 😂
Just be careful of the seven deadly danger noodles
I used to be an educator with AZ Herp Assoc, and had several non-venomous snakes, the majority of them stayed in their display cages, but my Sonoran Gophersnake would allow people to pet her and she was just so gentle. She'd been an education ambassador since she was just a neonate, and grew up to 4.5 ft long.
I worked as a baker in a cafe located in our public library. An event was held in which a snake, a five foot ball python, was introduced and explained to the kids, Remarkably, they were all well behaved. Maybe that was the cake that was also on offer, a cake I made and decorated to resemble the snake. And that last story, I have a couple of second cousins adopted from overseas and by golly they are REAL family, on the family tree and everything. It's not blood that matters, it's love.
_The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb._
Story 1: Poor guy had to deal with a real life Dudley Dursley!
Not all Snakes are Venomous. Some are non-venomous, and the Rattle Snake is Poisonous with the rattle 4:38
I am Australian and I can tell you one thing. DON’T FAFO WITH SNAKES!!!! It is that obvious.
Hear, hear! We live among some of the world's deadliest snakes.
@@JamesDavy2009 and spiders
@@DarkenVampirDragon-x3u True.
Story #3: OOHHH! I know this story!! It's the loo loo woman that thinks she owns OP's kid!! Yeah.. My reaction to this story, still is: cut contact, restraining order and call every Kindergarten, school, event my kid would be and tell the guardians there to NEVER let my kid go with anyone other than MYSELF!
I feel awful for her. It’s Jeff that’s the villain here. The baby had colic and he got sick of her crying so he shook her. He killed their baby. Around the time the case was dropped, the wife parents came by OP’s and told her that their daughter ending up killing herself because of everything
@@w1nterdays I know it's not the womans fault. But come on! How dense were these parents of hers to think it's okey to use another womans child as a replacement INSTEAD of giving her PROPER psychological care? Like, if they knew that jeff Was beeing accused of ending the babys life, why did they even let their daughter stay wtih this dude? Like, they did everything wrong what they could do wrong! They did not stop jeff from having this insane idea of meeting the kid of an unkown woman and they did not stop their daughert from going to this meeting! I belive this carzy meeting and the indulgence of "playing mom" to a kid that's not hers made it worse!
I know it's incredibly awefull for the parents of this woman, but I think if they had done stuff differently their daughter might still be alive
Story 2 is actually one of the first Entitled People stories I ever listend to on here, on a different channel. Nice to see it again, and from *DarkFluff*
Story 3...is just insane with as many expletives and emphasis-words you can think of. This is just awful. The a-hole Jeff was just going to make his wife's issues WORSE and hurt his own daughter, that he'd totally left out of his life, and the mother, just because he thought this insanity was a good idea.
Story 4: How I imagine this plot started
Incubator: Our son deathly ill and we arent matches, what are we gonna do?
Sperm donor: Didnt we have some spare parts 16 years ago? Maybe we can guilt it into saving our son.
Happy Hump day all you flufftastic people!!!
Story 4: Is there anything more cruel than having a "spare parts" child?
Came here because Reddit is down
Story 1: The woman definitely DOESN'T know anything about animals. And I feel sorry for the little brat, who will most likely end up growing into a bully and a terrible adult since his mother clearly learnt nothing. Good on OP's girlfriend and her friend group to cut Karen out of their lives, tho.
Story 2: The Karen was most likely trying to get rid of her son; she doesn't seem to care about him that much. Or maybe she is just insane and deliberately misheard OP and heard what she wanted to hear because she wanted a free babysitter. I don't think she should have been let go but hey, at least she found out OP was telling the truth all along.
Story 3: Man, 'Jeff' and his wife are NUTSOS! Maybe the universe made the wife have a miscarriage for a reason. This couple deserves NO kids; in fact, they shouldn't even be NEAR kids! I wish the best for OP and 'Katie'.
Story 4: OP's parents are right. She doesn't owe a DAMN thing to her bio parents who basically abandoned her and only pretended to get to know her because they wanted her to save their child. I don't mean to sound like an a**hole, but I KINDA wish their son ends up dying, so they can experience how it feels to lose a child that you LOVE.
EDIT: Story 3 had updates. Jeff sent a priest to harass OP. She handled it well and decided to talk to her boss to ban the priest from the workplace. Nothing came out of that. The sad part is the next and currently latest update: Jeff's wife died (no specified reason) and Jeff gave up. OP later found out, through Jeff's in-laws (they turned out to be actually decent people) that Jeff had K*LL*D his previous baby, by SHAKING him to make him stop crying (I guess he learned nothing from Peter Griffin. Sorry, bad place to make a joke). OP managed to get her lawyer to force Jeff not to have any contact with her OR Katie. OP thinks Jeff is getting the kama he deserves for painting himself as the victim he isn't. Sadly, Jeff didn't get jailed (he has A LOT of money and influence), but I still hope someone eventually learns that he k*ll*d his bio child and that he rots in prison and hell.
I own Great Danes. Large Scooby Doo dogs. I had one where I would constantly take out to an outdoor mall. She was an impressive 3ft tall. I was a small 5’4” 150lbs. The dog was also 150lbs. A lot of people wanted to take pictures with her which I was fine with. A man once asked to please hold her leash because he didn’t want me in the picture. I told him no, he is not trained, I am. He said if my small frame can handle her she can he since he’s much larger and stronger than me. Luckily his wife shut him down.
Even if OP was a babysitter and agreed to take her son in. Don’t you need to agree on a rate and sign a contract?
That man should never be allowed to procreate ever again. That wife needs therapy and meds, not a child fill in. My husband suddenly lost his godson before we met. I understand the depression one goes through.
I could never ask my kids to give up an organ for another. Once they are adults and decide to do it on their own free will, that’s on them. Put another child’s life at risk to save another, no.
Asking someone to donate a kidney to save their son isn't a problem. The WAY they asked was totally wrong.
As a recipient of a kidney, i can see where the mum and dad were coming from. I was so miserable and thought about ending it many times. I dread to think what my family would have done to help me at that point.
That child belong to someone , I’m sorry they lost a daughter, but you don’t get to take someone else’s kid because of it
"I'm a biologist" after perpetuating the myth that snakes can't hear. Lol!
#2 That Karen just assumed that OP MUST be available to take care of her kid at OP's home as a babysitter, NOT at the day care. What a case of The Stupid ! What a case of Entitlement !
#3 Using someone else kid as a surrogate kid to «replace» a kid who suddenly died is NOT good for anyone, and extremely bad for the child. Don't let that man near ANY child, or any elderly person.
#4 So, after some 16 years, the BP wanted that OP become a spare parts pool for their son... That's light years beyond entitled.
Story 3:
OP offered him the chance to be involved in his daughters life from when she was born and refused. He only wanted to be involved when his child with his wife passed away which is sad, and no one should ever have to go through losing a child. For his wife calling OP's child another name, and the both of them wanting OP's daughter to help the "wife" recover, and then threaten to apply for full custody is delusional. I wish OP the best moving forward, and don't let the "so called dad" or his delusional wife anywhere near your child or family, and take all steps to prevent them from trying to pickup your daughter from school. If they know where you live then put up security cameras all around the outside of the house.
Second story: lady why did you leave your kid on someone’s porch?! Even if op was doing at home babysitting service you should have waited until someone let him in not just assuming that someone let him in. That’s like someone who has pets and an electric gate leaving without looking to see if the gate closed.
those adopted parents are awesome shes so lucky im happy for her 💙
Karen: "the snake poisoned me!!!"
Chad OP: "First of all, snakes are venomous, not poisonous.
And second, this omes not vemomous"
Glorious
Snake story: I was waiting for the kid to go after psycho snake and getting tagged. But while EP got what she deserved, about the time she started disrespecting me in my own home is the time she would have been shown the door... hard if necessary.
Daycare vs babysitter story: Who in their right mind drops their kid off at a stranger's house without first making sure someone is home and takes them into the house? Especially when it's a 5 year old kid? It's not like a school where you just let them out of the car to run into the building.
"Therapy doll" daughter story: There was another update for this story. OP learned that Jeff's wife died (suicide) and Jeff had actually caused their baby's death by shaking the baby when it wouldn't stop crying. Jeff somehow managed to walk due to family money.
Give kidney story: While I truly can't blame the BPs for exploring every possible avenue to help their son, they should have been completely upfront about it from the start with OP and APs. But given how they went about it leading OP and APs into thinking they wanted a relationship now definitely makes them the AHs!
Third story: Now that was creepy. It appears that woman lost her child still a toddler, hence wanted to treat a 6 years old girl a toddler. That guy was more then willing to sacrifice the mental well being of her daughter instead of seeking professional help for his wife. What a monster.
Not even a toddler. Turns out the baby had colic and Jeff got fed up with the crying so he shook her, killing her. The wife knew the truth while everyone else believed Jeff was innocent. She ended up killing herself
My mom remarried when I was 2 and my brother was 5. My brother and I had to do visitation for 8 years. Our biological father gave up his rights so our dad could adopt us. He did that so he wouldn't be on the hook for over $50k in back child support. I saw him once when I was 17. He tried to make amends, but it was too late. He knew that and I knew that. I invited him to my wedding when I was 19. My dad was my best man and he was in the seating area. Last time I saw him was about 14yrs ago. My brother told him I had a son. My son is 15 now and my daughter is 8. My biological father knows about them but hasn't seen them. My wife and I adopted both of our kids. We see our daughter's biological family more than my son's biological family. Few reasons behind that, but I won't get into it. When my son was old enough to understand that he was adopted, my dad tried to tell him that I was adopted by him and that I have 2 dads. I told my dad that no I don't, I just have 1 dad. That made him choke up. That was the 2nd time I've ever seen him shed tears
The last story, I feel bad for the kid who needs a kidney. Imagine dying and having crappy parents.... sheesh.
For the longest time I had no idea I had a twin brother. He was adopted by one family leaving me behind, and my AP adopted me a few years later.
Story 3: with a "dad" like that, children shouldn't be in the picture. Sad that the baby died, but that man has no business being a father
Okay, so it’s actually a common myth that snakes are deaf. They do have inner ears, and have muffled hearing, though the OP is correct when he says it vibration-based. I believe they may have been simplifying it for readers’ sakes
Last story: right, the girl doesn’t owe her biological parents anything. At the same time though, she has a brother that has never done anything to her, and she’s just going to let him die to spite the parents who abandoned her?! I don’t know how I could live with myself after that.
NOT Babysitter!
Karen didn't even ask the babysitting rate. She'd try to make OP to babysit for FREE! Also wanting for FREE SNACKS AND LUNCH for her kid.
Story 3 actually disturbed me a bit. Story 4, remember this, anyone can be a mother or father, it takes special people full of love to be a mum or dad.
Is it worth mentioning that the first story didn't specify that the snake wasn't venomous? There are venomous snakes which are dangerous enough to mice and things, but their venom isn't going to cause harm to even a baby, let alone a full grown adult human.
Story one the snake guy sounds like a very responsible owner so I’m guessing if he did keep venomous snakes for any reason (some people milk them as a business) then he would not bring it out when people were there, especially children. People need to learn that their kids can’t always have what they want and kids need to learn boundaries so they don’t always expect to get what they want
Was story 3 in the United States? In Texas at least, mothers are not allowed to refuse child support. It's considered the CHILD's money, not the mother's.
When my son was 5 he was fearless and my friend had a baby pet python that he let my son hold one day. After holding the snake for a while, my son kissed it on the head and handed it back to my friend, only for it to open its mouth and latch on to my friend’s hand! We never told my mum this story otherwise my son would never be allowed outside, ever!!!!
Buddy of mine had an illegal water mocassin (very venomous) in his collection of snakes. During a Superbowl party, two very drunk girls (he didn't know) went into his basement unescorted (where he keeps all of his snakes, lizards, iguanas. etc.) One girl decided to "play with a snake" while the other took a Snapchat or something. She chose the mocassin vivarium. Once out of the glass container, it bit her which caused her to THROW IT AT HER FRIEND! Both girls started screaming, the snake disappeared and 911 had to be called. Funny: the hospital didn't have any antivenom and the zoo was closed. Long story short, my friend relinquished his pet to the zoo, which used its venom for a cure. Do not F with Snakes!
Story 1:
I don't understand why some parents don't set limits on their kids, even when it's for their own good. A friend of a friend got mad at me, after I scolded her son, for running around without any care, near my collection of cacti, which, by the way, are VERY, VERY POINTY! And she had the audacity to say that it's my fault, because "you should put them away when I have visitors with kids" . By the way, she brought her son without warning.
Because they refuse to admit when they're wrong. It always has to be someone else's fault when THEY put their kids in danger