I don't know if I would have wanted to marry him after that. At the very least I would postpone the wedding until that debt was paid because there's no way I'd be saddling myself with 10k worth of credit card bills just because my fiancee didn't want to send his thief mom to prison where she belonged.
@@recycledapathy7411 Yeah honestly I feel for the husband and likely was manipulated by his mother all his life, but if he's not gonna stand up for himself to her with something as serious as FRAUD then who knows what else he'll let her get away with. I don't want to blame him, because he is a victim as well, but he puts his entire family in jeopardy (and hearing that this wasn't the only story with this MIL, it furthers my point and makes me honestly fear for the wife and kids.)
The one thing I have to say about it is don't ask for the card. Just cancel it. I don't know if theft charges would stick, but a civil suit might have gotten results. Shut down the account and sue for the cost of the bill.
Story 1: I'd tell the bus driver> "Ok call the cops right now. This woman and I will wait here, and when I prove to the cops that this is my phone, I will be pressing charges against her for false accusation and attempting to steal my phone by having you take it from me. I can wait. Call right now, don't let her leave. You can be my witness."
If she tried to do that to me, i would have told her "Do not even try to take my phone in a bus FULL of witnesses, I WILL be pressing charges if you even attempt to leave with my phone or destroy it."
Grandma showing up at the daycare should have been arrested for attempted kidnapping from that daycare. The daycare is an authorized reporter they are required to report things like that to the police. In the third story the grandmother can be charged with theft of human cremanes which in most states is the same as tampering with a corpse. It a high level misdemeanor.
Grandma showing up at the daycare definitely raised some eyebrows and could have been seen as a serious issue like attempted kidnapping. Daycares have to follow the rules and report things like that to the police. In the situation with the grandmother, she might also face charges for taking human remains, which is treated seriously in many states and is considered tampering with a corpse. That's no small matter and is classified as a high level misdemeanor.
Why wouldn’t you just open your pictures and show you’re in the pics and not random person. Who would hand over their phone to let a stranger lick them out or break it or make a run for it?
I just went over this topic in my funeral law course, basically, do not steal ashes, it is very much illegal and you will absolutely get in a lot of legal trouble for doing it. Even if ashes are not technically considered a dead body in a lot of states, they are protected under a lot of different funerary statues and intestacy laws.
I saw the title of this video and immediately knew that it’s illegal to steal someone’s property, even if it contains someone’s ashes. That’s stupid and easily can land you in jail.
@@keithmays8076 I mean technically it depends are where you live in the US because some states dont consider ashes as a dead body but they are protected legally as a type of special property consideration. So you cant just steal, tamper, or remove them from their internment location without some serious legal issues.
I know it's easier said than done, but OP's husband's mother endangered his financial wellbeing and the security of his family, and thanks to her they ended up living in a shoebox. There is no excuse for that, and no forgiveness. He absolutely should have pressed charges, and that he didn't will only encourage further abuse.
First story. I would have been my smart ass self, turned my phone off and then just stare at the woman... the whole way. And if she said anything, I would reply, but you told me to get off my phone and look around, I'm choosing to look at you for my entertainment on this long ride.
I wouldve called the cops and told them some crazy lady and the bus driver is trying to rob me of my phone. Id also be telling bus driver before he even tried that he better go look at those f ing cameras before i make sure he loses his job. I have no problem being a karen when it comes to protecting MY property.
As a professional grandmother (I have 9, all but one either in high school, college, or almost 30), the grandmother stories really upset me. What the hell gives these women the thoughts that the kids are hers. They raised their own, it's time for the grown kids to do their raising of their kids. You're the grandmom, the confidant, the one who gives candy, toys, takes them for fun things, then hypes them up on Mt. Dew and sends them home. You can't take a kid from daycare if you aren't on the list and show your drivers license. No matter what you threaten (and I know because I did that job when my kids were little, the way I paid for the day care). Stealing ashes of a deceased child is just horrible, you may hurt, but the parents hurt much more than you can believe. And demanding an ashes necklace from that baby's remains is just ghoulish if the parents hadn't given them. I have no use for people like that. It's just way too evil for words in my opinion.
Story 5, Grandmother Ruin her eldest son life as Grandma more important then the baby. That woman need to be charged, 10K$ is a lot, then to say “you use to be good with money” is were a lifetime in jail away from everyone be good for her.
Story 6. Family steals water bottle, calls you an a-hole because they stole something and now has "live" with the consequences of stealing someone elses things.. Entitlement is real.
Bet they will tell the story as the time "some random person was handing around her bottles knowing she has herpes" and not anything near the TRUTH that they suck! At the vary least they will exclude the part where they stole it and blame the baby for "taking it when they looked away for just moment." people like them will never fully take accountability for their actions if they can blame someone else!
I think she actually did very good! Herpes is not life treathning, but still bad. More than that, it's a real possible consequence of being an idiot like this. You don't know the health state of the person you gonna "indirect kiss". And yeah, the mother that call her "a-hole"... I mean, true or not that she has herpes, OP didn't "gave" them the bottle!!! She is an a-hole for which action!?!
Honestly, I would have shown them the sore and then told them that I was also waiting for an STD report and I'm hoping it's negative because I have already learned to live with herpes and I don't have to worry about being a woman and blinding my babies.
Story 6: Absolutely NTA. That is a legitimate concern that they should have kept in mind regardless. Who shares water bottles with strangers, let alone steals used ones?
@@pandorapeace2591 I got it from a dentist who cut the corner of my mouth and apparently hadn't changed gloves between patients. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It's absolutely awful.
@@pandorapeace2591 It's not just Americans, that's applicable to the entire world. It has nothing to do with 'being careful' because most people get it as children or babies from their parents/relatives from skin contact and/or kissing. Having breakouts is irrelevant to being infectious. Billions of people have herpes and never show symptoms but are still able to spread it even if they don't even know they have it.
@@daniela4738I mean I have it and I'm not going to go kissing people if I have a breakout. People shouldn't be kissing their babies when they have active sores
Herpes is not life threatening like other STDs, he should have assured her that his STD test should come back clean and the kid will be fine once he's on medication for the rest of his life to suppress the breakouts.
Definitely agree. I don't sharing drink but with friends and family only. With a total strangers is just plain weird. I mean what if the next time they did that. The person does have contagion disease and their child get it. That child endangerment in my opinion.
Story 2: But it's not her baby tho, she doesn’t have any say in where the baby can go, OP does. Like, sorry but being grandma doesn't give her authority over OP.
Some states have grandparents rights. I don't think it's right unless the child is in danger. I've heard a story on one of these reddit channels where the grandparents got full custody of the baby just because they were friends with the judge and it was a single mother with no dad in the picture. It shouldn't be legal for a judge to handle a case when they know anyone involved in it.
@user-mama_thomas The judge shouldn't have been able to. That's a conflict of interest big time. And the judge and the grandparents should have sued. That's why most judges refuse themselves if they know one of the parties involved.
@@user-mama_thomas Usually, it indeed isn't legal -- at least not without the consent of all parties involved. Sometimes in small towns it's fairly common for judges to have *some* knowledge of almost everyone in their jurisdiction, though. In well run jurisdictions, those judges have to disclose their prior relationships and get the consent of both parties to hear the case despite them, but it's not true everywhere.
@@francit4856 Yes, but not necessarily in cases involving more distant acquaintances. Those were the ones I was describing, where local rules required them to get consent from both parties but not necessarily to recuse. With people in their close personal circle, they would recuse automatically. All that said, unless a litigant appeals the case on grounds of improper failure to recuse, there's little oversight if a judge doesn't follow those rules, and many people don't bother to appeal, or don't know that they can do so on those grounds.
I agree with you Fluff, doesn't matter if it was his mother, get the police involved and multiple charges filed; theft / fraud, multiples, and tampering with the mail. Only way she'll learn.
Last story reminds me of the time years ago when a guy was repeatedly making unwanted advances toward me. I looked him in the eyes with a straight face and said "ok, but by law I must warn you i have hiv." (I do not) He ran, I haven't seen him since. 😂
LMAOOOO you shouldve chased after him. "What's wrong? Don't you like me? You were being so persistent, why give up now that I'm going to give you what you wanted?" (I joke of course. Men are dangerous and that would be a massive risk, but IMAGINE haha)
*Last Story- NTA!* I _totally_ believe that was hilarious and justified!!! 🤣 A person could’ve had a _real_ illness and those parents would’ve put their child in serious harm!!! *People have problems!!!* 😒
This happened to my friend. Her husband had an older sister. When the older sister had a baby she took her maternity leave. When it was time to return to work her In laws eagerly took over baby care. Then the younger son & his wife, several years later, had their first child. They had heard many stories about how the in laws had taken over child care & how wonderfully things worked out. As it was nearing time for the baby being born the parents to be asked when the grandparents to be would be quitting their jobs to assume child care. The grandparents to be were stunned. Both of them, for different companies, were top executives running major corporations. The grandparents were highly compensated, individuals who really enjoyed their jobs. They were very active in social positions & were community leaders. They were vigorous & active people who truly enjoyed their lives. The thought of entirely giving up their lives for child care was something they didn’t want to do. As you might expect the parents to be astonished & they felt betrayed. The grandparents to be also felt very upset. In the end the grandparents to be agreed to pay nearly all the expenses to hire a nanny. Later they paid for most of the cost for daycare. They paid for most of the expenses but believed the parents should at least pay for a small part of the child care expenses.
Story 2 reminded me of a comment my mom made. For reference, my sister has three kids, and I can't even get a date. My mom told me that I needed to have kids, because she wanted grandkids. I pointed out that she already has three. How did she respond? "But I have to share those with the other grandparents."
@@alishabockwinkel8743 Yeah, that was my first thought - what makes her think she would get exclusivity rights? Also, I'm a guy, which would make the whole "single parent, partner not involved" thing a lot more complicated to pull off
The amount the mother stole from her son in story 5 is likely around 40-60 thousand dollars in today’s money….that 10K was stolen BEFORE change machines became common in the early 90’s. During the late 80’s, you could buy a really nice house for 60-100K in the American suburbs. That was a 10% down payment on a house and then some. What a terrible human being.
Story 5: I don't want to seem overly harsh, but I believe OP's husband failed as a husband and father by not pressing charges against his mom. She faced no consequences for screwing over his family and leaving them heavily in debt, and all he has to say for it is she's his mom? No. That makes me so angry. She goes to jail and never sees him or his family again. If my mom had done that to me and my wife I wouldn't just have thrown her under the bus, I would be the one driving it.
Story 2 - If that was in modern day United States, the daycare would be required to report an attempted abduction by an unauthorized person, and if they hadn't called the mother, they could have been looking at losing their operating license. Story 3 - MIL should have been given 2 choices, return the remains *unopened* immediately or charges will be filed that day. (I think most have a seal, a screw, or some other locking mechanism now so they can't be easily spilled.)
Story 4: I think OP identified how entitled bosses get their degrees and jobs, and sabatoged it beautifully. Thank you OP, employees everywhere thank you.
The last story. Look what OP did was extreme but a point needed to be made. WHAT UF OP did have herpies or some STD with his or her mouth? Then what? Again extreme but a point needed to be made.
"Oh, I don't mind you stealing my water bottle. I hope YOU don't mind the LSD I mixed in with it." People really need to THINK about what they MIGHT be getting into, when they put something in their child's mouth that came from a complete stranger.
That was my first thought, too -- "Hey! My meds are in that water! I need the full dose & it's harmful to drink for people who don't need the medication! What are you THINKING giving random, unknown substances that you STEAL from strangers to your CHILD???"
I too lost a child that was cremated. If anyone else even touched his ashes, they'd need their own urn. You don't mess with someone's child, dead or alive.
I heard the fifth story before, and I don't know how OP could stay married to that guy. I would have divorced him in an instant. No man is worth being in credit card debt that you're not responsible for. Least of all for a reason such as "but she's my mom".
My sister stole some of my mom's ashes and I now have gone no contact with her. 3 years ago when my mom passed she was cremated per her wishes. Her ashes were staying with my dad again per her wishes. We all agreed not to split the ashes up. (Side note he is my step dad but I consider him my father in every form. He is the love of my mom's life and treated us kids like his own from day one) I mention this cause it goes to how important of a role his is and how him keeping my mom's ashes made sense. We got my mom's ashes the day of her memorial which was a surprise. My sister immediately asked my dad for some of the ashes and he said no. Which made sense to me as it was her memorial Day and he just got her back. He wasn't ready to say yes even if she had approached him better. Well she didn't take no for an answer. She did it in secret and only later confessed to what she did a year and a half later. Why she decided to tell me I don't know but she laughed when telling me about it. She felt entitled to taking them cause it was her mom and felt like my dad didn't have as much of a claim on her. Not so. We did what my mom wanted so infact my sister went against our mom's wishes and disrespected our dad and mom. My mom loves him and that to me puts him having the same claim as us kids. (If a person can claim another) Well after her memorial we all went out to eat at a restaurant she loved. We were all talking about how great it was to be there together and how we wish mom was there with us.....my sister laughed and I asked her why then but she shrugged me off. When she decided to confess what she did she brought us that dinner and asked if I remember her laughing. When I said I did, she stated mom was there because she had some of her ashes in her purse. The fact she thought it was funny then and funny when she was confessing was disgusting to me. I knew then I could never trust my sister again. This amongst other things my sister has said and done led me to finally stop talking to my sister. **Another side note I likely would have advocated for her to get some to put in a locket like she ended doing with some of the ashes she took. But she insisted she was more entitled to what she wanted others be damned.
Here is some wisdom for the Karen in the first story, mind your own dam business. I bet she was trying to steal the phone and that was her “brilliant” scheme.
MIL - story 2. Christmas at my SIL's, my 2.5 month old daughter disappeared from the party. Found her in a bedroom with MIL who wanted time alone with her.😮😮😮 Cremation story - did they check the remains and make sure MIL didn't keep some of the ashes?
Story 2: I would've called the cops on the way to the daycare, informing them that MIL was attempting to kidnap my child by harassing the daycare into releasing him to her against my orders. Have her arrested and a restraining order given as she had STALKED OP's husband in order to get the daycare address (since it was never given to her) and she was not on the list of people the child could be released to. Story 4: I would've gone straight to administration and reported Alicia's theft of my notes and her refusal to return them.
Last Story: Even though OP happened to be lying about have oral herpes, the point is that they absolutely could have had it. And it makes a really effective point on why the parents' behaviour wasn't just entitled, but also potentially dangerous for their child. Like Fluff said, you also have no idea what they put in it. What if OP had slipped some booze in it or dissolved some medication into it? The parents got super lucky that it was, in fact, just water. I hope they learned their lesson... but I doubt it.
@@lw3269 And complaining to the relevant transit authority, given that the bus driver immediately believed the would-be thief and gave her multiple chances to unlock the phone.
The idiot OP handing that lady their phone just astounded me. Hold it so the driver can see it. Lock it. Unlock it. Done. Report the driver for allowing harassment if you're feeling frisky.
My brother died 2 years ago, I Mexico. We don't know from what and we never got to say goodbye, so I can understand how the grandmother felt about the ashes. But, I wanted a necklace with his ashes and I asked my parents, not demanded. And if someone stole them from us, no matter how they felt, I would fight to the death to get them back. Grandma was out of line. Just because she's grandma, does not mean she's entitled to anything she wants. And yeah, life gets in the way. We didn't do our necklaces until right before we drove to Denver to spread his ashes on the year anniversary. Dad did them, then came in and cried. OPs son was son was WAY younger than my brother, so this had to worse for her. How could someone do that to their son and daughter-in-law? It's like losing him all over again.
Story 2 It’s interesting that the mother in law calls the baby her baby! If I were OP I would take that baby and move across the country- tell the husband he is welcome to come along if he wants to
Last story, OP is not the a-hole. In fact, they did those parents a favor, because maybe next time they'll think twice before giving their kid an un-sanitized drink that they stole from someone. I had a neighbor once whose kid drank oil that had been put in an empty Pepsi bottle, they ended up in the emergency room getting their stomach pumped. Also, those amusement park workers have to be out in the heat all day and have to wait until they are relieved to take a break and get refreshments, and you have the nerve to take away their source of hydration because you are too lazy to take your kid to a water fountain or too cheap to buy a drink from a refreshment stand. Eff you, thieving parents.
Yep, enabled her entitlement by letting her commit fraud with zero consequences. Is there anything stopping her from doing the same thing to any of her other kids now that she thinks she'll get away with it? No
Yeah I think the OP should have given him an ultimatum. Press charges on his thief mom, or divorce. And I'd make sure to bring up the failure to financially protect his family from his criminal mother in the divorce proceedings too.
Definitely not the ahole. No actual harm was done to anyone, and the parents got to learn a lesson about the potential consequences of giving their kids someone else's things without asking. If they were willing to do it this time then they surely would be willing to do it again and the next time there really could be a disease that they give their kid.
Story 3: Same as number 2 Story 4: Alicia deserved it. If you can't take notes you will fail. OP could get sick or not share her notes. If you think you can cruise by on someone else's work, it will come back to bite you hard.
story 5. I've read so many stories of parents STEALING from their children. I can't imagine that even happening. I know my parents didn't do anything like that. And I know hubby and I haven't tried to steal from our kids. OP, your husband should have pressed charges against her. Mother's don't steal thousands of dollars from their children.
Story 2. When our first child was about three months old my mother-in-law told me I had to bring the baby to her on a Sunday night and i could have him back on Friday evening so i could go back to work. My own mother told me I had to bring the baby to her every Saturday and I could have him back on Sunday evenings as she wanted to make sure he went to church. Neither b1tch got their way, LOL.
To the OP whose entitled, selfish mother charged $10,000 dollars to his credit card: I really don't understand why you didn't want her arrested If she had used the card for a medical emergency or food or to keep the electric on, I could see forgiving her. However, trips to Disney World for herself and siblings, a stereo, a desk, a computer, and new clothes aren't necessities by any stretch of the imagination. It also wasn't your responsibility to pay for tuition for one of the sibs....that's Mommy dearest responsibility, or they could have tried for scholarships, student loans, financial aid. I don't know why you would ever want to be in the same room with her...she not only stole the card, the credit available, but also a home, food, clothes and other necessities for your baby!!! She is absolutely disgusting.
"I was gonna wait to give you the credit card I illegally opened in your name and pretty much maxed out for your birthday! Enjoy the crippling debt and debt collectors coming your way! Happy birthday. wait, why aren't you talking to me? Why don't you want to see me?" Wonderful birthday present, mom. Thanks
The last story, I fully applaud what OP did. Maybe next time, and I'm sure there will be a next time, those parents will have second thoughts on what they're STEALING to give to their child.
First Story: be careful. A friend of mine had the ashes of her dad stolen from mother in law too, but later she found out, that mother in law swiched the ashes with woodasches. She just needed a few hours....
Story 3: That's some insane narcissistic behaviour there. I know that people talk to ashes/gravestone/memory candles like they're still the actual people as a coping/grieving method, but stealing an urn of the ashes of a grandchild because you feel entitled to spend time with them? Just... wtf. And the whole thing with making them into jewelry for herself, ignoring the actual parents? Double wtf.
For story 1 all you really have to do is stare at her unbreaking no blinking until they figure out how weird it might be to have nothing else but stare at your fellow passengers for an awkward amount of time
I would have laughed my ass off if that was me in the last story. I have POTS so when I'm at work, chances are my water bottle is filled with raspberry flavored salt water. I don't mind the taste because I've gotten used to it, but if you've never had it before the taste is aggressively salty.
My husband told me a story of his Karen half sister. When there mom passed away she was cremated the Karen put the ashes in the trash sold the urn and used the money for bingo
Story 1: honestly if someone said that to me, I wouldn't have had it in me to even try being polite. I'd just loudly jump to "if you try to touch me or my phone I will bite you."
Story 1: Karen really needs to mind her own business. Don't busses have multiple CCTV cameras? The footage would've proved OP innocent. Story 2: OP did right to stand up to her MIL. She's clearly a nutso. OP needs to go NC with this toxic person. Story 3: OP should've pressed charges on MIL. Story 4: Alicia got what she deserved for stealing OP's notes. Story 5: MIL had committed fraud. Charges should've been pressed on her. Story 6: OP is absolutely NOT the AH. The thieves needed to be taught a lesson.
I don't get how in some of these scenarios where there's an obvious right and wrong, people STILL go ''omg OP is such as asshole''. The water bottle thing was not a prank, it was a lesson, because she didn't have mouth herpes but easily could have had it. And IF she actually had mouth herpes and the child got it from the bottle, there's a high chance she and the amusement park would've been sued and she would've lost her job regardless of the outcome. The parents needed to learn to never do that shit again and OP was in the right by educating them. Get better friends girl
"You know what, that's okay. You spend all the time with your dead grandchild that you want...because you will never see the live one again for the rest of your miserable life. You reap what you sow, happy now?"
Story 3: My father was cremated and kept in a leather box on a shrine. My sister got mad at my mom one day and ran off to another state with his ashes, without ever asking me if it was okay. I would've been fine if we divided his ashes so at least one of us could fulfill his dying wish. She eventually had his ashes stolen by a friend's mother and was blackmailed $240 for it. When we called police about his remains, we were told it was a civil matter. It's been 9 years and I still won't forgive my sister or that woman.
On story 5, the only reason I never filed charges against my former stepmother for (and I'm 99% confident in this) embezzling money that was supposed to go to my education through a GI bill is because I didn't realize what had happened until years later.
Last story: OP is absolutely justified and taught them a good lesson. Imagine if they actually had herpes and those parents passed it on to their child?? All the parents got was a trip to the doctor to check and see that their daughter was fine. Taking someone else’s items they have bodily fluids on is incredibly unhygienic and I’m glad that they learned that before someone actually got sick or hurt.
Story 5: oh I am great with money, you are the one who is shit with money, otherwise you'd pay me 10k right now. Story 6: harmless prank. All they got is a scare, worst case they take a quick trip to the ER and do a quick checkup and for all they know it was not transmitted, not like it costs them anything other than the trip and maybe losing out some time for the park tickets
I can't believe the family in the water bottle herpes story called it a prank when it was not. I call it a teachable moment for a family who just puts anything in their mouth not knowing what it is it's entirely possible that they could have stolen from somebody with herpes or something else like mono. If they did not have a scare they might have actually contracted something from stealing from others. Not Karma but a teachable moment
S5: Mom or not op's husband should have pressed charges against his mother and yes I would press charges against anyone capable of committing credit card thief under my name without my permission. How else will they learn the consequences of their actions.
Why is locking vs unlocking a phone a way to proof things. Let someone call "her" phone, she should know her own number. It solves the question faster.
The last story. NTA INFINITY. That's why you need to backwash in your own water bottles, clear bottles or not. Whoever drinks out of it will get a surprise.
I thought the water bottle thing was great. Good job reminding those idiots about stranger danger. I once heard a story where this guy put some liquor mixture into a coke bottle or something before going to a Mardi Gras or something like that and had this entitled mother and child harass him to share his "coke". Even stealing it from him. Or that other story where this lady on the bus had coffee in a bottle with some sort of marshmallow stuff and this girl's mother bullied her into giving her kid some without realizing what it was. It was only after the kid drank it that she thought to ask what was in it so she could make it for her kid at home and was horrified to find out what it actually was.
Story 6: No, OP. You are NOT TA. Why would anyone with sense want to take some rando's water bottle and give it to their kid? Even if they didn't have mouth herpes, there's no telling what other shit they're into or have. I know I wouldn't be letting my kids drink off a random bottle picked up from someone else. But then, I wouldn't want to put my kids in hospital or into an early grave either.
Story 5: I get that he doesn't want to press charges because it's his mom that stole the money, and it's kind of a hard thing to do for some people, but for me I would've not only pressed charges, but seek max possible damages and throw away that key. Congratulations, Husband's Mom, your cheapness screwed him over and you ain't getting any more money from him
Story 1: This is why we need laws that *the bully is always wrong* and *the victim is always right.* Siding with an entitled person, even if you don't know the whole story, should be seen as being an accomplice to entitlement. Also, if someone tried to take my phone or "teach" me any sort of lesson, I would probably say, "I'm not your kid. I don't even *know* you. Leave me alone, creepo!"
Story 1: My smart butt would have said "Yeah, and before phones it would have been a book or newspaper. People have NEVER been social with randos on public transit. Fuggoff!"
2nd story... the daycare as soon as they were told not to release... another employee should have been calling 911 for an attempted kidnapping. Most kidnapping is done by family not strangers.
Story 5: The husband should have pressed charges. He enabled that behavior!!!!
Yes! She didn't give a rat's rear about putting HER son in debt, why should HE give a rat's rear about putting her in jail.
Story 5 lesson: ALWAYS PRESS CHARGES!!!
Theft is theft, no matter who the thief is!
I don't know if I would have wanted to marry him after that. At the very least I would postpone the wedding until that debt was paid because there's no way I'd be saddling myself with 10k worth of credit card bills just because my fiancee didn't want to send his thief mom to prison where she belonged.
@@recycledapathy7411 Yeah honestly I feel for the husband and likely was manipulated by his mother all his life, but if he's not gonna stand up for himself to her with something as serious as FRAUD then who knows what else he'll let her get away with. I don't want to blame him, because he is a victim as well, but he puts his entire family in jeopardy (and hearing that this wasn't the only story with this MIL, it furthers my point and makes me honestly fear for the wife and kids.)
The one thing I have to say about it is don't ask for the card. Just cancel it. I don't know if theft charges would stick, but a civil suit might have gotten results. Shut down the account and sue for the cost of the bill.
Story 5: That's credit card fraud. I absolutely would have pressed charges.
Story 1: I'd tell the bus driver> "Ok call the cops right now. This woman and I will wait here, and when I prove to the cops that this is my phone, I will be pressing charges against her for false accusation and attempting to steal my phone by having you take it from me. I can wait. Call right now, don't let her leave. You can be my witness."
Fr OP was super lucky she didn't just try to run with it
Honestly bus driver should have been fired. That is not in his job description
If she tried to do that to me, i would have told her "Do not even try to take my phone in a bus FULL of witnesses, I WILL be pressing charges if you even attempt to leave with my phone or destroy it."
Grandma showing up at the daycare should have been arrested for attempted kidnapping from that daycare. The daycare is an authorized reporter they are required to report things like that to the police. In the third story the grandmother can be charged with theft of human cremanes which in most states is the same as tampering with a corpse. It a high level misdemeanor.
Grandma showing up at the daycare definitely raised some eyebrows and could have been seen as a serious issue like attempted kidnapping. Daycares have to follow the rules and report things like that to the police. In the situation with the grandmother, she might also face charges for taking human remains, which is treated seriously in many states and is considered tampering with a corpse. That's no small matter and is classified as a high level misdemeanor.
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@@wessexdruid7598 I thought I was going crazy.
the moment in story 1 the karen tried to pass it off as her phone it became clear they weren't entitled, that was a thief
All thieves are entitled.
She clearly never saw 300.
Right. At that point, I would be on the phone with 911, reporting an attempted robbery.
Why wouldn’t you just open your pictures and show you’re in the pics and not random person. Who would hand over their phone to let a stranger lick them out or break it or make a run for it?
@@TheVeggiekat I wouldn't do that either. Just have the busdriver call thief karen's phone. She knows the number to "her" phone, doesn't she?
I just went over this topic in my funeral law course, basically, do not steal ashes, it is very much illegal and you will absolutely get in a lot of legal trouble for doing it. Even if ashes are not technically considered a dead body in a lot of states, they are protected under a lot of different funerary statues and intestacy laws.
I saw the title of this video and immediately knew that it’s illegal to steal someone’s property, even if it contains someone’s ashes. That’s stupid and easily can land you in jail.
@@PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings my sister stole some of my mom's ashes! I had no idea it's illegal
@@dharmawannab You learn something new every day.
I think that falls under "desecration of a corpse", right?
@@keithmays8076 I mean technically it depends are where you live in the US because some states dont consider ashes as a dead body but they are protected legally as a type of special property consideration. So you cant just steal, tamper, or remove them from their internment location without some serious legal issues.
I know it's easier said than done, but OP's husband's mother endangered his financial wellbeing and the security of his family, and thanks to her they ended up living in a shoebox. There is no excuse for that, and no forgiveness. He absolutely should have pressed charges, and that he didn't will only encourage further abuse.
First story. I would have been my smart ass self, turned my phone off and then just stare at the woman... the whole way. And if she said anything, I would reply, but you told me to get off my phone and look around, I'm choosing to look at you for my entertainment on this long ride.
My thoughts exactly. Go farther and start asking her ridiculous questions
I wouldve called the cops and told them some crazy lady and the bus driver is trying to rob me of my phone. Id also be telling bus driver before he even tried that he better go look at those f ing cameras before i make sure he loses his job.
I have no problem being a karen when it comes to protecting MY property.
No you wouldn't. You'd get bored just like the rest of us.
@@Rhaenarys No you wouldn't. You'd put your head down and try to move on just like anyone.
@@etcetera1995 No. No I’m that petty. Lol
As a professional grandmother (I have 9, all but one either in high school, college, or almost 30), the grandmother stories really upset me. What the hell gives these women the thoughts that the kids are hers. They raised their own, it's time for the grown kids to do their raising of their kids. You're the grandmom, the confidant, the one who gives candy, toys, takes them for fun things, then hypes them up on Mt. Dew and sends them home. You can't take a kid from daycare if you aren't on the list and show your drivers license. No matter what you threaten (and I know because I did that job when my kids were little, the way I paid for the day care). Stealing ashes of a deceased child is just horrible, you may hurt, but the parents hurt much more than you can believe. And demanding an ashes necklace from that baby's remains is just ghoulish if the parents hadn't given them.
I have no use for people like that. It's just way too evil for words in my opinion.
Story 5, Grandmother Ruin her eldest son life as Grandma more important then the baby. That woman need to be charged, 10K$ is a lot, then to say “you use to be good with money” is were a lifetime in jail away from everyone be good for her.
Mother or not a thief is a thief. No consequences no change in behavior
Story 6. Family steals water bottle, calls you an a-hole because they stole something and now has "live" with the consequences of stealing someone elses things.. Entitlement is real.
Bet they will tell the story as the time "some random person was handing around her bottles knowing she has herpes" and not anything near the TRUTH that they suck! At the vary least they will exclude the part where they stole it and blame the baby for "taking it when they looked away for just moment." people like them will never fully take accountability for their actions if they can blame someone else!
I think she actually did very good! Herpes is not life treathning, but still bad. More than that, it's a real possible consequence of being an idiot like this. You don't know the health state of the person you gonna "indirect kiss". And yeah, the mother that call her "a-hole"... I mean, true or not that she has herpes, OP didn't "gave" them the bottle!!! She is an a-hole for which action!?!
Honestly, I would have shown them the sore and then told them that I was also waiting for an STD report and I'm hoping it's negative because I have already learned to live with herpes and I don't have to worry about being a woman and blinding my babies.
Story 2- my mom used to talk like that… “my kid” I was like uhhh no, He’s our kid and your grandkid
My mom is the exact same way with my nephew. She loves to "parent" over my sister who is a grown ah adult, it's infuriating.
Story 6: Absolutely NTA. That is a legitimate concern that they should have kept in mind regardless. Who shares water bottles with strangers, let alone steals used ones?
50-80% of Americans have oral herpes. It's a HUGE concern!! People not being careful is why that number is so high
@@pandorapeace2591 I got it from a dentist who cut the corner of my mouth and apparently hadn't changed gloves between patients. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It's absolutely awful.
@@pandorapeace2591 It's not just Americans, that's applicable to the entire world. It has nothing to do with 'being careful' because most people get it as children or babies from their parents/relatives from skin contact and/or kissing. Having breakouts is irrelevant to being infectious. Billions of people have herpes and never show symptoms but are still able to spread it even if they don't even know they have it.
@@daniela4738I mean I have it and I'm not going to go kissing people if I have a breakout. People shouldn't be kissing their babies when they have active sores
Herpes is not life threatening like other STDs, he should have assured her that his STD test should come back clean and the kid will be fine once he's on medication for the rest of his life to suppress the breakouts.
Theft story. Would have told him
You press charges or we don't get married. I don't give an eff she's your mom. She's not entitled to ruin OUR lives.
Story 6: You did those parents a favor by teaching them a valuable lesson.
Definitely agree. I don't sharing drink but with friends and family only. With a total strangers is just plain weird. I mean what if the next time they did that. The person does have contagion disease and their child get it. That child endangerment in my opinion.
Story 2: But it's not her baby tho, she doesn’t have any say in where the baby can go, OP does. Like, sorry but being grandma doesn't give her authority over OP.
Some states have grandparents rights. I don't think it's right unless the child is in danger. I've heard a story on one of these reddit channels where the grandparents got full custody of the baby just because they were friends with the judge and it was a single mother with no dad in the picture. It shouldn't be legal for a judge to handle a case when they know anyone involved in it.
@user-mama_thomas The judge shouldn't have been able to. That's a conflict of interest big time. And the judge and the grandparents should have sued. That's why most judges refuse themselves if they know one of the parties involved.
@@user-mama_thomas Usually, it indeed isn't legal -- at least not without the consent of all parties involved. Sometimes in small towns it's fairly common for judges to have *some* knowledge of almost everyone in their jurisdiction, though. In well run jurisdictions, those judges have to disclose their prior relationships and get the consent of both parties to hear the case despite them, but it's not true everywhere.
Actually per judicial rules (US) a judge is supposed to recuse themselves in cases involving family, friends and close acquaintances.
@@francit4856 Yes, but not necessarily in cases involving more distant acquaintances. Those were the ones I was describing, where local rules required them to get consent from both parties but not necessarily to recuse. With people in their close personal circle, they would recuse automatically.
All that said, unless a litigant appeals the case on grounds of improper failure to recuse, there's little oversight if a judge doesn't follow those rules, and many people don't bother to appeal, or don't know that they can do so on those grounds.
😊 20:09 story 5. I would've pressed charges, no matter she's his mother or not.
I agree with you Fluff, doesn't matter if it was his mother, get the police involved and multiple charges filed; theft / fraud, multiples, and tampering with the mail. Only way she'll learn.
Last story reminds me of the time years ago when a guy was repeatedly making unwanted advances toward me. I looked him in the eyes with a straight face and said "ok, but by law I must warn you i have hiv." (I do not) He ran, I haven't seen him since. 😂
LMAOOOO you shouldve chased after him. "What's wrong? Don't you like me? You were being so persistent, why give up now that I'm going to give you what you wanted?" (I joke of course. Men are dangerous and that would be a massive risk, but IMAGINE haha)
Watch out for the, “Great! So do I!”, response. 😖
*Last Story- NTA!* I _totally_ believe that was hilarious and justified!!! 🤣 A person could’ve had a _real_ illness and those parents would’ve put their child in serious harm!!! *People have problems!!!* 😒
Honestly, that kid would have had a great story to tell one day how he got an STD as a kid because his parents were trying to save a dollar on water.
I would’ve sued his mom. Idc who she is. Dispute the charges.
This happened to my friend. Her husband had an older sister. When the older sister had a baby she took her maternity leave. When it was time to return to work her In laws eagerly took over baby care.
Then the younger son & his wife, several years later, had their first child. They had heard many stories about how the in laws had taken over child care & how wonderfully things worked out.
As it was nearing time for the baby being born the parents to be asked when the grandparents to be would be quitting their jobs to assume child care. The grandparents to be were stunned. Both of them, for different companies, were top executives running major corporations. The grandparents were highly compensated, individuals who really enjoyed their jobs. They were very active in social positions & were community leaders. They were vigorous & active people who truly enjoyed their lives. The thought of entirely giving up their lives for child care was something they didn’t want to do.
As you might expect the parents to be astonished & they felt betrayed. The grandparents to be also felt very upset. In the end the grandparents to be agreed to pay nearly all the expenses to hire a nanny. Later they paid for most of the cost for daycare. They paid for most of the expenses but believed the parents should at least pay for a small part of the child care expenses.
Amen. Those young, entitled parents were very lucky to have the financial assistance of the older generation.
Story 2 reminded me of a comment my mom made. For reference, my sister has three kids, and I can't even get a date. My mom told me that I needed to have kids, because she wanted grandkids. I pointed out that she already has three. How did she respond? "But I have to share those with the other grandparents."
That statement alone would cause me to go to a doctor to be sterilized.
Is... Is she expecting some kind of virgin birth to happen here?
But wouldn't she also have to 'share' your kid with other grandparents? Or was she expecting you to be a single parent? 😑
@@alishabockwinkel8743 Yeah, that was my first thought - what makes her think she would get exclusivity rights? Also, I'm a guy, which would make the whole "single parent, partner not involved" thing a lot more complicated to pull off
As for the last story: better a scare, than ACTUALLY having the water bottle infected 😮
The amount the mother stole from her son in story 5 is likely around 40-60 thousand dollars in today’s money….that 10K was stolen BEFORE change machines became common in the early 90’s.
During the late 80’s, you could buy a really nice house for 60-100K in the American suburbs. That was a 10% down payment on a house and then some.
What a terrible human being.
Yeah, I was thinking "$100 for Disney World???"
Not to mention the interest piling up on the credit card before it was paid off.
Yup, that's grand larceny & credit card fraud. The MIL should have been locked up.
Story 5: I don't want to seem overly harsh, but I believe OP's husband failed as a husband and father by not pressing charges against his mom. She faced no consequences for screwing over his family and leaving them heavily in debt, and all he has to say for it is she's his mom? No. That makes me so angry. She goes to jail and never sees him or his family again. If my mom had done that to me and my wife I wouldn't just have thrown her under the bus, I would be the one driving it.
Story 2 - If that was in modern day United States, the daycare would be required to report an attempted abduction by an unauthorized person, and if they hadn't called the mother, they could have been looking at losing their operating license.
Story 3 - MIL should have been given 2 choices, return the remains *unopened* immediately or charges will be filed that day. (I think most have a seal, a screw, or some other locking mechanism now so they can't be easily spilled.)
Story 4: play stupid games you win stupid prizes. Alicia learned that.
I might have even prepared "new" math notes and told Alicia I made a mistake on the original notes and handed her a copy of the new one.
And her friend Chelsea was wrong about how she treated Alicia, it was excellent revenge
Story 4 sounds like a revenge story if OP had a plan involved against the entitled friend.
story 5: "either you press charges on your mom, or I'm divorcing you. I am NOT getting put into debt for YOUR mother." is what I'd say
Story 4: I think OP identified how entitled bosses get their degrees and jobs, and sabatoged it beautifully. Thank you OP, employees everywhere thank you.
The last story. Look what OP did was extreme but a point needed to be made. WHAT UF OP did have herpies or some STD with his or her mouth? Then what? Again extreme but a point needed to be made.
She was nice with the herpes, I'd said I had AIDS!
@jaqquesnelle6305 that actually is better lol
@@TheDarkLink7 lol dark Humour I know but some people deserve it.
@@jaqquesnelle6305 heck if say herpies aids and ciphalas
Not extreme. Also, not all herpes are an STD. Cold sores (herpes simplex type 1) aren't.
"Oh, I don't mind you stealing my water bottle. I hope YOU don't mind the LSD I mixed in with it." People really need to THINK about what they MIGHT be getting into, when they put something in their child's mouth that came from a complete stranger.
But... But... You can't drink that! That's my kidney replenishment fluid! You can die from just breathing in that stuff!
@@sarumano884😅😅😅😂
That was my first thought, too -- "Hey! My meds are in that water! I need the full dose & it's harmful to drink for people who don't need the medication! What are you THINKING giving random, unknown substances that you STEAL from strangers to your CHILD???"
I too lost a child that was cremated. If anyone else even touched his ashes, they'd need their own urn. You don't mess with someone's child, dead or alive.
I heard the fifth story before, and I don't know how OP could stay married to that guy. I would have divorced him in an instant. No man is worth being in credit card debt that you're not responsible for.
Least of all for a reason such as "but she's my mom".
My sister stole some of my mom's ashes and I now have gone no contact with her.
3 years ago when my mom passed she was cremated per her wishes. Her ashes were staying with my dad again per her wishes. We all agreed not to split the ashes up. (Side note he is my step dad but I consider him my father in every form. He is the love of my mom's life and treated us kids like his own from day one) I mention this cause it goes to how important of a role his is and how him keeping my mom's ashes made sense.
We got my mom's ashes the day of her memorial which was a surprise. My sister immediately asked my dad for some of the ashes and he said no. Which made sense to me as it was her memorial Day and he just got her back. He wasn't ready to say yes even if she had approached him better. Well she didn't take no for an answer. She did it in secret and only later confessed to what she did a year and a half later. Why she decided to tell me I don't know but she laughed when telling me about it.
She felt entitled to taking them cause it was her mom and felt like my dad didn't have as much of a claim on her. Not so. We did what my mom wanted so infact my sister went against our mom's wishes and disrespected our dad and mom. My mom loves him and that to me puts him having the same claim as us kids. (If a person can claim another)
Well after her memorial we all went out to eat at a restaurant she loved. We were all talking about how great it was to be there together and how we wish mom was there with us.....my sister laughed and I asked her why then but she shrugged me off.
When she decided to confess what she did she brought us that dinner and asked if I remember her laughing. When I said I did, she stated mom was there because she had some of her ashes in her purse.
The fact she thought it was funny then and funny when she was confessing was disgusting to me. I knew then I could never trust my sister again. This amongst other things my sister has said and done led me to finally stop talking to my sister.
**Another side note I likely would have advocated for her to get some to put in a locket like she ended doing with some of the ashes she took. But she insisted she was more entitled to what she wanted others be damned.
Here is some wisdom for the Karen in the first story, mind your own dam business. I bet she was trying to steal the phone and that was her “brilliant” scheme.
MIL - story 2. Christmas at my SIL's, my 2.5 month old daughter disappeared from the party. Found her in a bedroom with MIL who wanted time alone with her.😮😮😮 Cremation story - did they check the remains and make sure MIL didn't keep some of the ashes?
Story 2: I would've called the cops on the way to the daycare, informing them that MIL was attempting to kidnap my child by harassing the daycare into releasing him to her against my orders. Have her arrested and a restraining order given as she had STALKED OP's husband in order to get the daycare address (since it was never given to her) and she was not on the list of people the child could be released to.
Story 4: I would've gone straight to administration and reported Alicia's theft of my notes and her refusal to return them.
Guarantee you that story 1 was a con to steal the phone and not entitlement
Thieves are often entitled.
Last Story: Even though OP happened to be lying about have oral herpes, the point is that they absolutely could have had it. And it makes a really effective point on why the parents' behaviour wasn't just entitled, but also potentially dangerous for their child. Like Fluff said, you also have no idea what they put in it. What if OP had slipped some booze in it or dissolved some medication into it? The parents got super lucky that it was, in fact, just water. I hope they learned their lesson... but I doubt it.
Dayum. That lady trying to take the phone just astounded me. I've heard a lot of these "Entitled People" stories, but WTF, lady?!
Would be filing charges for attempted theft.
@@lw3269 And complaining to the relevant transit authority, given that the bus driver immediately believed the would-be thief and gave her multiple chances to unlock the phone.
The idiot OP handing that lady their phone just astounded me. Hold it so the driver can see it. Lock it. Unlock it. Done. Report the driver for allowing harassment if you're feeling frisky.
My brother died 2 years ago, I Mexico. We don't know from what and we never got to say goodbye, so I can understand how the grandmother felt about the ashes. But, I wanted a necklace with his ashes and I asked my parents, not demanded. And if someone stole them from us, no matter how they felt, I would fight to the death to get them back. Grandma was out of line. Just because she's grandma, does not mean she's entitled to anything she wants.
And yeah, life gets in the way. We didn't do our necklaces until right before we drove to Denver to spread his ashes on the year anniversary. Dad did them, then came in and cried. OPs son was son was WAY younger than my brother, so this had to worse for her. How could someone do that to their son and daughter-in-law? It's like losing him all over again.
Story 2 It’s interesting that the mother in law calls the baby her baby! If I were OP I would take that baby and move across the country- tell the husband he is welcome to come along if he wants to
10k in debt and didnt put her in jail to clear it? Cant feel bad for them....
Last story, OP is not the a-hole. In fact, they did those parents a favor, because maybe next time they'll think twice before giving their kid an un-sanitized drink that they stole from someone. I had a neighbor once whose kid drank oil that had been put in an empty Pepsi bottle, they ended up in the emergency room getting their stomach pumped.
Also, those amusement park workers have to be out in the heat all day and have to wait until they are relieved to take a break and get refreshments, and you have the nerve to take away their source of hydration because you are too lazy to take your kid to a water fountain or too cheap to buy a drink from a refreshment stand. Eff you, thieving parents.
Mom credit card thief- OP’s husband started as a victim but graduated to volunteer when he failed to press charges. 😢
Yep, enabled her entitlement by letting her commit fraud with zero consequences. Is there anything stopping her from doing the same thing to any of her other kids now that she thinks she'll get away with it? No
Yeah I think the OP should have given him an ultimatum. Press charges on his thief mom, or divorce. And I'd make sure to bring up the failure to financially protect his family from his criminal mother in the divorce proceedings too.
@@trout512 💯
@@trout512 100 per fucking cent I can't fucking believe he just let her put her in debt
Story 3 is literally the desecration of a grave. That woman belongs behind bars.
Definitely not the ahole. No actual harm was done to anyone, and the parents got to learn a lesson about the potential consequences of giving their kids someone else's things without asking.
If they were willing to do it this time then they surely would be willing to do it again and the next time there really could be a disease that they give their kid.
Story 3: Same as number 2
Story 4: Alicia deserved it. If you can't take notes you will fail. OP could get sick or not share her notes. If you think you can cruise by on someone else's work, it will come back to bite you hard.
story 5. I've read so many stories of parents STEALING from their children. I can't imagine that even happening. I know my parents didn't do anything like that. And I know hubby and I haven't tried to steal from our kids.
OP, your husband should have pressed charges against her. Mother's don't steal thousands of dollars from their children.
Story 2. When our first child was about three months old my mother-in-law told me I had to bring the baby to her on a Sunday night and i could have him back on Friday evening so i could go back to work. My own mother told me I had to bring the baby to her every Saturday and I could have him back on Sunday evenings as she wanted to make sure he went to church. Neither b1tch got their way, LOL.
As if babies even understand church, on top of the audacity of demanding weekend custody.
To the OP whose entitled, selfish mother charged $10,000 dollars to his credit card: I really don't understand why you didn't want her arrested If she had used the card for a medical emergency or food or to keep the electric on, I could see forgiving her. However, trips to Disney World for herself and siblings, a stereo, a desk, a computer, and new clothes aren't necessities by any stretch of the imagination. It also wasn't your responsibility to pay for tuition for one of the sibs....that's Mommy dearest responsibility, or they could have tried for scholarships, student loans, financial aid. I don't know why you would ever want to be in the same room with her...she not only stole the card, the credit available, but also a home, food, clothes and other necessities for your baby!!! She is absolutely disgusting.
"I was gonna wait to give you the credit card I illegally opened in your name and pretty much maxed out for your birthday! Enjoy the crippling debt and debt collectors coming your way! Happy birthday. wait, why aren't you talking to me? Why don't you want to see me?"
Wonderful birthday present, mom. Thanks
Would have called the police Immediately , pressed charges and go for the max.
The last story, I fully applaud what OP did. Maybe next time, and I'm sure there will be a next time, those parents will have second thoughts on what they're STEALING to give to their child.
#2: attempted kidnapping charges and restraining order on both of them!
First Story: be careful. A friend of mine had the ashes of her dad stolen from mother in law too, but later she found out, that mother in law swiched the ashes with woodasches. She just needed a few hours....
You never know what kind of germs someone is carrying around. Like they could be on the tail end of a big C-19 infection.
I’m not gonna lie, if my husband wouldn’t press charges on someone for this level of fraud, I’d leave him immediately. I don’t care who it is!
Second story - good daycare. They did exactly what they were supposed to do.
Story 3: That's some insane narcissistic behaviour there. I know that people talk to ashes/gravestone/memory candles like they're still the actual people as a coping/grieving method, but stealing an urn of the ashes of a grandchild because you feel entitled to spend time with them? Just... wtf. And the whole thing with making them into jewelry for herself, ignoring the actual parents? Double wtf.
I love my parents but if they made my debt $10k+ on my Credit Card, the fraud report and police report would be the least of their problems.
For story 1 all you really have to do is stare at her unbreaking no blinking until they figure out how weird it might be to have nothing else but stare at your fellow passengers for an awkward amount of time
I would have laughed my ass off if that was me in the last story. I have POTS so when I'm at work, chances are my water bottle is filled with raspberry flavored salt water. I don't mind the taste because I've gotten used to it, but if you've never had it before the taste is aggressively salty.
*PRESS CHARGES!*
Wish more of these would end with: "And then Karen got tasered." Wonder what the laws on tasers are in Canada?
Honestly, op needs to put in a police report against her mother-in-law for trying to kidnap op’s kid.
My husband told me a story of his Karen half sister. When there mom passed away she was cremated the Karen put the ashes in the trash sold the urn and used the money for bingo
Story 1: honestly if someone said that to me, I wouldn't have had it in me to even try being polite. I'd just loudly jump to "if you try to touch me or my phone I will bite you."
Story 1: Karen really needs to mind her own business. Don't busses have multiple CCTV cameras? The footage would've proved OP innocent.
Story 2: OP did right to stand up to her MIL. She's clearly a nutso. OP needs to go NC with this toxic person.
Story 3: OP should've pressed charges on MIL.
Story 4: Alicia got what she deserved for stealing OP's notes.
Story 5: MIL had committed fraud. Charges should've been pressed on her.
Story 6: OP is absolutely NOT the AH. The thieves needed to be taught a lesson.
I don't get how in some of these scenarios where there's an obvious right and wrong, people STILL go ''omg OP is such as asshole''. The water bottle thing was not a prank, it was a lesson, because she didn't have mouth herpes but easily could have had it. And IF she actually had mouth herpes and the child got it from the bottle, there's a high chance she and the amusement park would've been sued and she would've lost her job regardless of the outcome. The parents needed to learn to never do that shit again and OP was in the right by educating them. Get better friends girl
Story 6 - better a scare than the real thing. Honestly op might’ve stopped that kid from getting a serious disease
"You know what, that's okay. You spend all the time with your dead grandchild that you want...because you will never see the live one again for the rest of your miserable life. You reap what you sow, happy now?"
Story 3: My father was cremated and kept in a leather box on a shrine. My sister got mad at my mom one day and ran off to another state with his ashes, without ever asking me if it was okay. I would've been fine if we divided his ashes so at least one of us could fulfill his dying wish. She eventually had his ashes stolen by a friend's mother and was blackmailed $240 for it. When we called police about his remains, we were told it was a civil matter.
It's been 9 years and I still won't forgive my sister or that woman.
On story 5, the only reason I never filed charges against my former stepmother for (and I'm 99% confident in this) embezzling money that was supposed to go to my education through a GI bill is because I didn't realize what had happened until years later.
Last story: OP is absolutely justified and taught them a good lesson. Imagine if they actually had herpes and those parents passed it on to their child?? All the parents got was a trip to the doctor to check and see that their daughter was fine.
Taking someone else’s items they have bodily fluids on is incredibly unhygienic and I’m glad that they learned that before someone actually got sick or hurt.
Story 1 : I call bs. She wasn't trying to teach op a lesson. She was trying to bully him to steal his phone
What OP should have done was push for charges.
FILE CHARGES for the theft of the ashes.
Story 5: oh I am great with money, you are the one who is shit with money, otherwise you'd pay me 10k right now. Story 6: harmless prank. All they got is a scare, worst case they take a quick trip to the ER and do a quick checkup and for all they know it was not transmitted, not like it costs them anything other than the trip and maybe losing out some time for the park tickets
I can't believe the family in the water bottle herpes story called it a prank when it was not. I call it a teachable moment for a family who just puts anything in their mouth not knowing what it is it's entirely possible that they could have stolen from somebody with herpes or something else like mono. If they did not have a scare they might have actually contracted something from stealing from others. Not Karma but a teachable moment
There’s a reason mother in laws are universally hated
S5: Mom or not op's husband should have pressed charges against his mother and yes I would press charges against anyone capable of committing credit card thief under my name without my permission. How else will they learn the consequences of their actions.
Why is locking vs unlocking a phone a way to proof things. Let someone call "her" phone, she should know her own number. It solves the question faster.
The last story. NTA INFINITY. That's why you need to backwash in your own water bottles, clear bottles or not. Whoever drinks out of it will get a surprise.
I thought the water bottle thing was great. Good job reminding those idiots about stranger danger. I once heard a story where this guy put some liquor mixture into a coke bottle or something before going to a Mardi Gras or something like that and had this entitled mother and child harass him to share his "coke". Even stealing it from him. Or that other story where this lady on the bus had coffee in a bottle with some sort of marshmallow stuff and this girl's mother bullied her into giving her kid some without realizing what it was. It was only after the kid drank it that she thought to ask what was in it so she could make it for her kid at home and was horrified to find out what it actually was.
Story 3, OP should check to make sure those are still ashes in the urn, and if so, the right ashes.
Story 6: No, OP. You are NOT TA. Why would anyone with sense want to take some rando's water bottle and give it to their kid? Even if they didn't have mouth herpes, there's no telling what other shit they're into or have. I know I wouldn't be letting my kids drink off a random bottle picked up from someone else. But then, I wouldn't want to put my kids in hospital or into an early grave either.
Story 2: I would’ve told the daycare provider to call the police for an attempted kidnapping. As the parent it is your right. 7:58
Story 5: I get that he doesn't want to press charges because it's his mom that stole the money, and it's kind of a hard thing to do for some people, but for me I would've not only pressed charges, but seek max possible damages and throw away that key.
Congratulations, Husband's Mom, your cheapness screwed him over and you ain't getting any more money from him
Story 1: This is why we need laws that *the bully is always wrong* and *the victim is always right.* Siding with an entitled person, even if you don't know the whole story, should be seen as being an accomplice to entitlement. Also, if someone tried to take my phone or "teach" me any sort of lesson, I would probably say, "I'm not your kid. I don't even *know* you. Leave me alone, creepo!"
Story 1: My smart butt would have said "Yeah, and before phones it would have been a book or newspaper. People have NEVER been social with randos on public transit. Fuggoff!"
Story 3 - Hum... why do I have the impression the urn is missing one spoon of ashes?
People need to always press all the charges or things won't change.
2nd story... the daycare as soon as they were told not to release... another employee should have been calling 911 for an attempted kidnapping. Most kidnapping is done by family not strangers.
Last story was the lesson these people needed to learn!
Grandma could have asked for the ashes when they got home. If they said no, tell them to find another babysitter.
It is even more worrysome when the grandmother (because I have honestly yet to hear about a grandfather doing this crap) calls the child "her baby".