Unfortunately, for any of this to happen, someone would have to file a complaint. And the only person who could possibly do that is OP herself, who was at that time thoroughly intimidated.
Officers have been disciplined / fired for abusing their power in similar cases; using it to intimidate a child would probably result in quicker and more severe disciplinary action.
Police love to abuse there power and if police actually got in trouble for when they abuse there power and police resources it would be near impossible to have police. Lately due to police abuse of power people have been making sure to learn there rights in case a police officer tries to do something. Always make sure to you know your rights in case you have a cop that tries to do something.
Story 1: My mom didn't do the cop thing she had far worse ideas but she did do the part of making certain that for the first 18 years of my life that I couldn't keep anything. I'd go to school, come home for her to smugly tell me that she cleaned my room, or organized my things for me to discover that she had thrown out most of my stuff. This had it's impact in that today decades later I still don't get attached to stuff or hold onto anything for more than a couple years. I'm not materialistic at all but of course that was never her end game.
Story 1 - Oh my… what a monster of a mother! And ANY police officer who goes along with this psychological abuse should be demoted if not fired. And the mother should be arrested for wasting police time and most of all child abuse.
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Regardless of if in-uniform or not, a cop 24/7 represents the PD. He could be fired for violating the cause in his contract.
@@ScottAlanBecker38 That I agree with...while OP's Momster didn't Waste Police Time, he did violate an Officer's Code of Ethics, not to mention Harassing and Threatening a Minor both of which are Crimes when he did that 'Favour' for Momster...
Irony - telling someone they should be in a mental hospital for being disabled while their own older child runs around assaulting people due to “anger issues”. Sounds like both Karen and her son were the ones who needed therapy. 🙄
I know, talk about having a whole lot time on your hand and nothing better to do, as well as wasting time all at once. Did no one tell her that people don’t owe anything to anyone? So what if a kid won’t play with another? It’s not that big of a deal.
@@kitarrah1422People can grow and change. Hopefully this incident showed the poor little girl that her mom is unstable, and to take everything she says with a grain of salt. If not now then when she's older.
I dont get why the op even bothered to discuss it. The manager said his crimes were being there and swimming. Once that was made clear, the proper response is 'so why are you talking to me?' They literally harassed a paying customer into leaving because a random guy told them to. I'd be putting in a complaint. Doesnt matter how 'nice' the manager was, he ripped off a customer who broke no rules and didn't even border on creepy and rewarded another for abusing other customers.
I hope the cops took a good hard look at the dad, since it's pretty clear his first thought was that adults don't hang around kids without nefarious reasons.
the mom saying the brother belongs in a mental institute but than her son has anger issues and lashes out the irony….the mom and the son belong in the mental institute
The part that pisses me off is that she used that excuse I have anger issues but I knew how to control it before 14 and that little sissy still had the gull to get mad and punched someone even though he was offered to get another one damn parents are failing us
Story 1: That mother should have been arrested. Children have rights! Slavery is illegal, and if it's family, that only makes it MORE wrong! Not less! More!
Particularly in the USA, children have practically NO rights, apart from the right to live... and even that seems to often be uncertain. The USA is, I believe, the only first-world nation which refused to ratify the UN Declaration on the Rights of the Child. Not that "ratifying" the declaration did anything for any signatory nation since most, if not all, of them seem to honour the declaration far more in the breach than in the observance.
The parents are working to provide a roof over the child's head, clothes on the child's back, and food in the child's stomach. Until the child becomes 18, he/she has the rights of a servant, and to an education. After the age of 18, then the child has the right to MOVE OUT. The PARENT owns the house, the PARENT owns the car.
@@lorrainewolfe9430 so the parent has the right to provide something that they intend to throw out after it gets a little use, so that the kid has nothing? If you treat your kids like servants, they will do whatever they can to exercise that right to move out at 18, and it'll be because you made them want to leave your cell block.
Story 3 - Good on OP for keeping his cool while the Cop Dad screamed at him and then telling him what his son did. At least the Cop Dad realized that he messed up when he confronted OP, hopefully he learned to get ALL of the facts before confronting someone and gives his brat of a son a REALLY good lesson about FOLLOWING THE RULES WHEN THEY ARE GIVEN!
I agree but this seemed like a pretty young kid. Dad was likely a young father as well. He really screwed up but did apologize. Let’s hope that taught him something.
Crazy Karen Story: If I were OP, the moment I heard that Voice Mail Karen left me, I'd have called the Officer from the Park Incident back and had Karen Arrested for Uttering Threats and Harassment...
OP probably only wanted the whole situation to be over as soon as possible. That's normally a bad choice. But with OP being autistic, I can understand why he chose this.
@@karinwolf3645 Quick to take side, eh? Ever think of the other side reasoning? Consider this : You are a parent. OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people suspicious. Not to forget that people (children and adults) are half naked in a swimming pool. Now, I'm not yet going to elevate it to involve the police based just on that. But I'd throw a suspicious look on that kind of adult. Because again, that kind of act is suspicious.
@@bunji4216 Next time some Reddit poster will write she saw some dude lurking in the park and being aggressive when OP "innocently" "approach" him. And you guys will defend her accusation. I bet on it, because that's what happened time and time again here in this channel, namely treat OPs as saints and their words as gospel.
That kind of thing is exactly how you can tell that the story is not merely fiction, but chatbot generated fiction. People know how the real world works. Chatbots don't.
Pool Story: When the Police showed up, OP should have told the Police they want to Press Charges against Kevin with Improper use of the Emergency System, Harassment and Uttering Threats (as witnessed by the Pool Manager)... I would have...
Only the cops can press charge about improper use of the emergency system. That they didn't, meant that they understand what the father was concerned about, even if it's not strong enough for them to act on OP ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And the father had his reason. OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool where children gathered? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people suspicious. Not to forget that people (children and adults) are half naked in a swimming pool. Now, I'm not yet going to elevate it to involve the police based just on that. But I'd throw a suspicious look on that kind of adult.
@@gorilladisco9108 It's not that he was an adult, it was that he was a male adult. It boils down to the pure sexism belief that only men are predators.
@@zackkatian3436 Not every predators are men, but ... most predators are men. Not every bear will chew your face, but will you take chance with that big one digging your trash?
Story 5 - Hearing this story instantly reminds me of the Karen who called the police on a young girl for selling bottled water ‘without a permit’. This EM is a racist, she’s the one using the race card not OP. I’m only mad that we didn’t hear EM get arrested for misuse of the 911 call or get a hefty fine.
Definitely understandable. My mom would also take my things (or break them in some instances) the second I did the smallest thing she didn't like, so I completely understand becoming possessive (Granted, it was only ever things like toys or video games in my case, but I'm pretty sure I remember her threatening to take things like my clothes or my bed at least a couple times. She was always eager to jump straight to punishment rather than explain why whatever I was doing was wrong)
@ricochet0928 I feel bad all that happened to you. I was fortunate this kind of thing didn't really happen to me. However, once I was old enough, I realized that whether it is something like this or entirely something different, it isn't really about the specific obect/s. It's about the disrespect to your things and your feelings. A lot of people don't understand that.
22:01 this is why the people sold the property in the first place. Always check with the local government and the local police to find out if there have been any ongoing issues or disputes with the property you intend to purchase. Before I purchased my apartment, my father suggested that I visit on a Friday or Saturday evening just to see what the noise levels were like and if there were any particularly loud neighbours. It was good advice, at one apartment that I almost purchased I discovered that the building was directly under the airport flight path. The viewing times had been chosen when the planes were not as busy. You might find the most perfect home, but it won’t matter if there are crazy entitled people living next door or across the street.
Mostly Karen. She’s a racist psychopath that caused her daughter to be socially isolated. The poor kid doesn’t even understand that her mom is to blame for her not having friends.
Story 2: as someone with autism, I can definitely relate to OP. I like to swim under the water too. Mainly because I like the feeling of having the water covering every part of my body. It’s a sensory thing. It’s also why I like things that are soft and why I can’t sleep with a shirt on. It’s all down to how it feels
It's not about the swimming. It's about OP sitting at the side of the pool where children were gathering. Had he kept on swimming, or sit (more like stand) at the deeper side, he wouldn't attract suspicion. That being said, I wouldn't yet to elevate it to involve police if nothing else happened, but I would make sure to watch him too, if I saw him sitting among the children.
Story #4: Total Karen logic: The 10 year old kid with the disability that makes him scream out must be institutionalized. But her son with anger issues that make him violently attack others can not be touched or held accountable.
There are literally hundreds of people who die every year in America because "The gun wasn't loaded" when it turns out it actually was. Gun safety should always be taken seriously, no matter what.
@moebiusjdx7288 my bow ex brother in law (sister divorced years after) is missing a thumb because the gun he was cleaning "wasnt" loaded......no "person" was injured
Story 3 - This is why, as a parent, you ALWAYS find out the other side of the story your kids tell you before going off on someone else. There’s a fine line between being a good advocate for your child and being their enabler, and you’d better be sure you’re on the right side of that line.
@@PassiveSmoking That is both an excellent and deeply unsettling question. One hopes that professional detachment when he’s on the job makes him more likely to keep his cool than on issues where his son is involved, but… 😰
As a black woman, I’m very disappointed in story, five’s mother because there is no way that I would continue to let my child play with someone whose learn racism from their mother plus to not directly go to the park after finding out this lunatic was the ranting and raving you had to be called again when your daughter Had the police called on her insane to me. Then this woman has the nerve to threaten you to not walk past her house you or your young children she should’ve been dealt with very differently however I do agree with moving because I would not want my daughter around anyone that racist and that entitled!
And that's the thing, she doesn't want to be seen as the racist that she is. Ignorance is bliss and her ignorance is like many who don't know the actual facts or will believe their logic makes sense.
Story 3: I was in the Army Reserve at one point in my past and was a range officer-in-charge on several occasions, so I know exactly what was up with the rules... especially the "up and down range" rule. Violating any safety rules will also get you kicked off the range and will give you a failure to qualify with your weapon for the year. It's not a joke. Rule 1 of any rifle, hand gun, or other firearm is "Always treat the weapon as if it is loaded." There are no exceptions for "except when you feel like pretending you are reenacting an action movie scene." And as @silverflight01 said, do it with a toy gun... which should have an orange something on the muzzle to readily identify it as a fake/toy.
Story 1: That was overkill for not putting out the garbage straight away. Story 2: I hope that Kevin was arrested for filing a false police report. He was beyond paranoid. Story 3: Cop Dad wasn't a total Kevin. He didn't have all the facts and apologized when he found out why his son was banned from the range. Story 4: Some people have no consideration for other person's disabilities and it all degenarates into physical violence. Story 5: OP wasn't playing the race card because Karen WAS being racist. Her attitude was absolutely toxic. Another one who should've been arrested for making a false police report. Story 6: Those toxic neighbours need to mind their own businsess. I agree with DF that a restraining order is going to be next step.
Story 3: that was no Scout. That was a brat. That brat also disrespected two points of the Scout law: a scout is trustworthy and courteous. Clearly he was neither.
My older brother is intellectually impaired (I’m his little sister) and we grew up in 80’s where there was not a lot of information or general knowledge about intellectual disability (not like today’s level of knowledge) he was an integral part of our BMX gang and most kids in our street and neighbouring were awesome. However we got in some residents in the next street over and rode into our street and started having a go at my brother. I was not on my bike at the time and was fixing up a ramp to jump. One of the kids, a girl called my brother some names and attempted to ride away. I chased her down easy, she wasn’t a good rider and dragged her over the handlebars. I punched her a few times and all her friends were screaming at me to stop. My brother and best mate rode over and just observed as she was with a heap of brothers and boys and I was flogging her. I pushed her away and told her to not come back to our street or ever call my brother names again. I only had to do it once and none of the kids in the street she was from come into our street again.
Story 4 - When I was in Taekwondo (about 10 years old) I went to another dojo where there was a boy (probably 12 or 14) who had a form Tourette syndrome, he would just loudly shout at random times and he couldn’t help it. That was my first exposure to Tourette syndrome.
Story 1: Please say that, as an adult, you are not in contact with your mother anymore😟 Story 2: What a lousy manager. He should have had the person complaining leave the place!😠 Story 3: Maybe before chewing someone out, cop dad should get all the facts first😒
7:19 I’m not surprised at all of this and I have had a similar experience to. I drove a small tourist train (like that in zoos or amusement parks) in a small town and happily rang its bell and wave back to people or children. One day a mother had to say that it was creepy for an adult man to wave back to small children…
1st story: I want to know the badge number of that cop. Get him/her fired or on personal leave REAL Quick. And I hope OP now has no contact with psycho entitled mother. And for the commenter, I feel a little bad for the father, but he made that bed and he can lie in it. 2nd Story: I've heard this before, but still I feel so bad for OP for being accused of being a Pedo 3rd Story: I don't care if the gun is loaded or not, you do not point the gun at something you don't intend to shoot. Entitled Crotch goblin was warned and told this multiple times and loved how it backfired on him. Also there's a saying of "There's no such thing as an unarmed gun" which I have a feeling OP was trying to teach as well. 4th story: Hopefully charges were filed on the Entitled Mother and Child. Kid FAFO and good on OP for standing up for their brother. 5th story: I'm facepalming so bad at this story...the mother is so unhinged and needs to go to a mental institution and I'm honestly glad that OP didn't call her back and just moved. I also feel bad for the daughter but seriously hope she doesn't turn out like her mom. 6th story: OP is NTA. They tried their best to compromise with their neighbors and each time the neighbors went above and beyond being entitled assholes. Especially when they were warned by OP, cops, etc. and I agree with Dark Fluff that a restraining order should be next.
Story 4 - So the mom tells OP that his brother should be in a mental for his disability while her son, who apparently has a hair trigger on his short fuse of a temper, is free to punch a young kid? Yeah good luck explaining that in court lady.
If i ever had a kid and they got kicked out of an activity, especially a potentially dangerous activity, i definitely wouldn't yell at the person in charge, i would get the full story. Because my kid must have been kicked out for a reason and i just want to know what that reason is, before i decide on what to do next.
I remember when I was a kid my neighbor came over to tell me I had to play with his daughter and I told him I didn’t have to play with anyone I didn’t want too. His daughter was very entitled and she got it from him. Her mom was nice tho.
damn, story one is a prime example on how to scare your kids from ever calling 911 if they need help. they might be taken away if they do, in their minds
I know someone whose mother tried that, but the kid new things a little better than she or the officer did. Officer did the whole "Rooba rooba jail time record blah blah" and the kid walked over to the squad car and opened the door, then sat down in the back seat. A LOT of back-pedaling, and a couple years later, when he was eighteen, he went into the station to 'reminisce' with the officer - did a number on the guy's career for a couple years. As for the last story? The entitled neighbors want the property and will harass the hell out of whomever lives there until they agree to sell it to THEM at rock-bottom prices.
My mom and dad did the same thing to me. My mom was friends with the Chief of Police, whom she went to high school with. The reason for this is I was hanging out with the wrong people. The officer basically said " either I straighten up or I'll be in these cells with my loser friends, in a day, a month or within a year. If I continue to follow the path I was on!" It pretty much straightened me to do better. Thanks Mom for looking out for me!
I get what you're trying to say. That for you, what your mom did was a good thing. And I can DEFINITELY see some circumstances where a cop might need to have a serious chat with a child about the consequences of heading down the wrong path. But there is a HUGE difference between what your mom did (a way to say, hey, this group could lead you to bad things) and what OP's mom was doing (obey my every whim immediately or you'll be in jail, even if you aren't doing anything wrong and what is delaying you is more stuff you need to do)
Cop Dad should have been kicked off the range too , after his apology. No self control and should not be shooting on that range. Don't care how cool he turned out to be. Abusing his authority , not knowing the full story.
No judge will uphold that because the father had his valid reasons. OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something. Now, I'm not yet going to elevate it to involve the police based just on that. But some parents are more easily triggered than others.
@gorilladisco9108 As a cop family member told me, suspicion isn't a reason to call the police, you can be fined for that because you wasted police time which is needed for actual crimes. If OP had actually done anything to warrant others being suspicious of him, besides where he was; or had done anything to prove that your suspicious was correct, then the dad should have gone to management first and only go to the police if the manager didn't do anything if there was behavior or actions showing OP had I'll intentions towards the kids. If people were arrested for "being suspicious" because they are around kids despite not having one, then anyone without kids at a fast food place that has any kind of play area would be put in prison. You can keep an eye out, but don't act on a "suspicious" without proof or justifiable cause.
@@kendowolf1 "As a cop family member told me, suspicion isn't a reason to call the police, you can be fined for that because you wasted police time which is needed for actual crimes." So, I can put my chair just outside your home, sit down there, staring menacingly toward your home, and you can't do anything about it? How is that make sense? Are you sure he gave you a legitimate advice or was he just have a bad day at work because of Karens?
@@gorilladisco9108 In that situation, as long as you're not on my property or showing behavior that you are a threat to myself or anyone in my home, I can't do anything about your "suspicious behavior" because you are on public property, not private property.
Story 6- You are not the Aholes. Your neighbors are preventing you from enjoying your private property. I would get a lawyer and take them to court if necessary, maybe a o contact order from a judge. Start documenting everything they do or say.
Story 1: I had this happen to me when I was 8. My stepfather had a cop scare me because of my anger issues. It's 100% a real thing that happens. Story 2: I'm not surprised this happened. I hate public pools a lot, as an autistic person myself, and I can 100% believe there would be a dad like that. Dealt with entitlement like that before at a go-kart track. Story 3: Good on OP for not letting that kid get away with being a little shit. Gun safety is not something to fuck around with, and good on dad for at least apologizing after learning the truth. Story 4: As someone with severe social anxiety, this story explains it perfectly. People can be so stupid about mental disorders. Good on OP for being a good big sibling and taking control of the situation. Story 5: Oh, a repeat. No big deal, great story. The mother in this story is super crazy and needs to be put into a hospital personally. No, Karen, OP's daughter does not need play with your little crapcake. Story 6: If the property doesn't belong to you, you do not have the right to complain about it. If I want to build a greenhouse with non native plants, you can kindly screw off.
The first story is a perfect example of how to make sure your children have an unhealthy relationship with law enforcement. The children are going to grow up resentful of the police.
Story 6 After having them arrested several times and them still trespassing it's time to inform the police that the next time they are caught you will be exercising your second amendment rights and will be calling to have the police come and remove the bodies. After many attempts to solve the same issue and several arrests i was forced to shoot a neighbor who tried to enter my home with 3 of his teenage kids and a firearm. I was on the phone with the police when he broke down my front door and attacked my wife. This all resulted from me catching his teenage sons stealing the fuel that I kept in my garage for my mowers and 4 wheeler. I asked him to keep his kids off my property half a dozen times before I called the police and had one of them arrested. It only escalated from there. Now I don't have to worry because dad is in prison for 25 years and the teenage sons were all sentenced in adult court to sentences ranging from 7 to 15 years in prison. The mother has since divorced dad and moved away with the 2 daughters after thanking me for allowing her to escape the situation she was in.
No. Never threaten to use a firearm, and only use one if you are in fear of imminent death or severe bodily harm. Making that threat could be considered premeditated in the hands of a prosecutor.
Some people think that any adult who is near children is a pedo; especially if that person isn’t with children of their own. The pool rules do _not_ say that every adult must be accompanied by a child so OP wasn’t doing anything wrong.
Mom called police story: OP, it's too bad you didn't tell your school principal and/or guidance counselor about this little incident. That would have gotten the officer involved disciplined, possibly severely enough that none of your mother's other officer friends would risk doing the same. Pool story: It sounds like the entitled dad just needed a victim to pick on for the day and chose you, OP. Good grief! Gun range story: You did exactly right OP. Cop dad could have initially handled it better by asking questions first, but once he did have all the info he corrected immediately and apologized. Hopefully, the scout actually learned something. Brother vs tea story: So what actually happened when the police arrived? Don't tell just half the story. Playing kids story: Can't force anyone to be your friend if they don't want to be, in a public space or not. No laws about that at all. Idiot! No wonder the girl didn't have any friends. Trespassing story: The neighbors should be glad you've been calling the police instead of friends like Smith & Wesson or Winchester to take care of the trespassing problems. I would go to the trouble of getting some motion activated lights as well as cameras around the property to document their activities. Plant some very thorny bushes on the inside of your fence. If you're in a climate that will support them, maybe some cactus.
Just moved into my new home. Half of a double. My 5 year old was digging in the dirt and throwing t over the wall. Old woman next door yelled at me about it. Not long after, my doorbell rang. It was a cop. He said he was here about some....dirt....? Explained story and he said 'I have more important things to do than this' he was not happy. Had many problems with hat crabby lady.😅
Story 1: I would have said...and YES even at 12...to the cop "Fine...DO IT...take me to juvie...I want to see how you explain to a judge that DOING MY HOMEWORK is a crime." Story 2: I would never have given my details to police without demonstrable probable cause. Though I would inform them of the threat the guy made. Then stayed at the pool. Story 5: Karen commits: 1) Harassment 2) Abusing Emergency Services 3) Assault of a Police Officer 4) Using Emergency Equipment w/o Authorization 4) Disturbing the Peace Story 6: OP is NTA. Install security cameras. Use the constant harassment...both in person (by trespassing) and by mail...to get a No Contact Order against them. Enforce it.
2) The fact that OP as an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, near where children are playing. How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park near where children are playing? Those facts were reason enough for probable cause. And if OP aggravated it by refusing to give his identity, that's ground for arrest too. And police will even more likely to side with the father after that. children adult other place playing OP where OP can sit |_________________________________________________________________________________| .............................................t h e a v a i l a b l e p l a c e.................................................. You know the feeling when in public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinal, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
@@crimsonmaelstrom573 Yeah, and the ER doc put me in concussion protocol. Said I shouldn't be listening to heavy metal and thrashing. I told him I was listening to Darkfluff and Fluffing. 🤣🤣
All the gun ranges that I’ve been to tell you outright that the safety orientation is the only warning that you will be getting. I remember taking a few minutes breaking down the sniper style rifle I had brought with me so it would go into the slots custom made for it and saw the person next to me and just finished shooting and thought they had cleared the mag. When I looked over their son ( I think he was around 15 to 16 so definitely should have known better) pointing the 45 colt in my direction. Trying to keep my cool I told him just loud enough that only he and his dad could hear to point the gun down range even if it’s not loaded. The gun I would later learn had a misfire on its last round so imagine my shock to hear the kid telling me to shut the f-up and pulling the trigger of the gun to try and intimidate me. The gun goes off and the bullet just does miss me by little less than a centimeter and the staff wrestling the gun out of his hands. I would later be told by one of the staff that the dad had told his son the point the gun at me an pull the trigger to scare me thinking it was empty. He got arrested and the son also got arrested. It still sends a chill down my spine just thinking about how close I came to getting my head blown off by a stupid kid all because they broke the safety regulations for the range.
Don't treat every Reddit poster as saint. Try to understand the other side reasoning. children adult other place playing OP where OP can sit |_________________________________________________________________________________| .......................................a l l t h e a v a i l a b l e p l a c e............................................ You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. He didn't do anything suspicious, just unzip and pee. However ... (insert Bill Burr voice here) I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
I had a similar issue happen to me as OP in story 1. I was fed up with how my mother was acting so when the officer made his threat, my response sent her into tears "Go ahead, send me to juvie, put me in foster care. I'll be better off for it and may actually get parents who give a crap about me." Sure my words had more foul words but that'll only get my comment deleted. She actually toned down her controlling and emotional abuse after that, not enough to prevent me going NC with her as soon as I turned 18, but enough that made the last five years of my teenage life tolerable. My mindset was, since I was already planning to self minecraft if it kept up, I had nothing to loose. Still have that dark mindset lingering in the corner of my mind but I have a good support group of friends to keep me stable. Some people have no rights being parents, end of story.
2. Why do you treat OP as saint? A normal person will see that what OP doing is suspicious. You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. He didn't do anything suspicious, just unzip and pee. Alongside you. Juuust peeing. However ... (insert Bill Burr voice here) I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
How about a normal person? You see .. OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something. Now, he surely over the top to call police based on just that. But you need to understand his reasons, and not treat every OP in Reddit as saint.
The idea that an adult cannot even be in the presence of kids without it being "creepy" is, itself, even creepier. Some guy sitting alone in a park where kids are playing... maybe he's just taking a break from a walk, or is on his lunch break. Or he's just enjoying the sun. Absent him doing something beyond sitting there YOU are the one thinking about horrible things.
@@rcrawford42 Next time some Reddit poster will write she saw some dude lurking in the park and being aggressive when OP "innocently" "approach" him. And you guys will defend her accusation. I bet on it, because that's what happened time and time again here in this channel, namely treat OPs as saints and their words as gospel, and not to try to understand the reasons of other side of the conflict. Oh, and claiming autism help too, apparently. Victim trophy for everyone!
How about a normal dad? Even when he's an overprotective one? OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, near where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park near where children are playing? It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something.
Story 2: My heart goes out to OP, since being autistic can make these things feel 10 times worse than to an allistic person. Otherwise it's not really relevant, and he didn't need to use it to defend himself. Besides, any parent there with their kids was just as likely to be a pervert, but the dad decided to just single out OP, just for doing what is perfectly normal to do at a public pool. Circumstances don't make a person guilty, actions do. And some people just like to dive under the water and prefer it doesn't get in their eyes. Get over it!
children adult other place playing OP where OP can sit |_________________________________________________________________________________| .......................................a l l t h e a v a i l a b l e p l a c e............................................ You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
I was in a toxic household growing up and when I escaped one night turning 18 mom called the police on me saying I stole this I stole that. My entire life I bought my own stuff and kept receipts even for my bed that she swears I stole. I was even able to save one cat but couldn't on the other. Mom faked papers and when Susie passed dad threw her ashes in the garbage. And they keep wondering why I keep my distance
The crazy neighbors are trying to run those people off the property on purpose. They most likely want that land, but don't want to pay for it. So, they are trying to run off anyone who lives there hoping it will either become abandoned or the owners will sell it cheap.
The story about the guy getting into trouble for swimming, I'm wondering if it's a case of liars think that everyone is a liar.... (Those that understand, will understand)
Story 2 is exactly why, despite the fact that I love to swim in pools, I don't when any kids are there. I don't want something like this to happen to me.
Why would the manager kick someone out of the pool when they weren't doing anything wrong. Also why would the manager call the police when they didn't witness a damn thing. If the guy called, then why kick op out. Have the police talk to the guy with the manger. This story makes zero sense.
The police de-escalated the situation by taking OP somewhere else. And about that father ... You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. He didn't do anything suspicious, just unzip and pee. Alongside you. However ... (insert Bill Burr voice here) I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
While cop dad probably was used to dealing with people “roughly” to his credit he acted 100% correctly when he found out that the issue was his son’s improper handling of a firearm. He’s a cop, he’s well aware of how important gun safety is. He did right after his first big error.
Story 2. Just because the buff dad gets hot and bothered looking at kids doesn't mean that everyone does. Buff guy should stop projecting his sick behavior onto others. But P's think they are normal and that every man is just like them.
The 1st story is *not* "using cops to terrorize your children for not doing chores", it's "using cops to threaten your kids for not dropping everything they're doing to obey your every whim right that second". The OP said (s)he needed about 10 minutes to finish homework that was due tomorrow, and (s)he would do the chores right after, but the mother took "gimme few mins and I'll do it" as "HOW DARE YOU ASK ME TO DO CHORES!". -_-
Omg how did the police even acknowledge the call at all? I mean that should have been like ma'am you're abusing this 911 operations we are going to be finding you for your misuse of the 911 services. Also the mother touching the officers radio should have been considered assault of an officer or at the very most disruption of an officer's duties.
Story 3: this reminds me of my time working at a scout camp. Back in ‘15 I was working ScoutCraft (more arts and crafts merit badges taught like leatherwork, photography, and art). I was teaching the art merit badge, and the particular day we were working on the multi medium project portion. And the end of the time allotted I gather the projects. And as I go through them I saw a plethora of styles. Then I noticed a fully folded sheet. Confused I opened it. What I saw on it was a rather short yet vulgar note to me about his opinion of my class. This would have been slick if it weren’t for the fact that he had been with the first year program. So I called over his supervisor of his group and handed him the note. Later that day a boy from a local unit to the camp with his scoutmaster show up. The boy was made to apologize and the boy learned a lesson that you shouldn’t think you’re anonymous in such a big group.
How about OP gave that guy all the wrong vibe? OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, near where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park near where children are playing? It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something.
I think its story #3: why would you shoot in the air? Live Bullets will come down, wouldn't it be better to hold your weapon toward the ground till you are ready to shoot.
When you have crappy butt-hole neighbors (or HOA), cameras are a requirement, not an option. You should be discrete about the cameras. That way the butt-holes would keep up their actions and do something really illegal.
1st story- my dad was a corrections officer and my tia was/is a sheriff and they would do that all the time when we were little and the adults would just laugh, most recently my tia showed up to a family event with her lights on to scare the kids
STORY 2- ASIDE FROM NOT KNOWING THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY FOR A MALE KAREN, I DO HAVE TO SAY THIS WHO THE HELL DOES THAT FATHER THINK HE IS?? IT'S CALLED THE PUBLIC POOL PEOPLE GO THERE TO SWIM AND RELAX... IT IS A PUBLIC AREA IT'S A PUBLIC POOL MIND YOUR OWN EFFING BUSINESS AND JUST HANG OUT WITH YOUR KID... HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE SOMEBODY OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT LIKE IN THIS DAY AND AGE THAT CAN RUIN SOMEONE'S REPUTATION!! LIKE OPIE WASN'T EVEN BOTHERING ANYBODY HE WAS JUST DOING HIS OWN THING AND NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY THAT FATHER NEEDS TO LEARN TO MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS AND PISS OFF!! STORY # 3- I WAS A BOY SCOUT BACK IN THE DAY AND I GOT MY RIFLE AND SHOTGUN MERIT BADGES (BOTH OF THEM)... DURING SUMMER CAMPS AT THE BIG BOY SCOUT CAMP IN THE AREA. IT WAS A CAMP CALLED CAMP ROTARY AND EVERY SINGLE SUMMER FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS WE WOULD HAVE A HUGE SCOUT JAMBOREE AND I'M TALKING THERE WOULD BE HUNDREDS OF BOY SCOUTS FROM ALL UP AND DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD IN THIS ONE CAMP. LIKE THIS IS WHERE A MAJORITY OF MERIT BADGES COULD BE RECEIVED OVER THE COURSE OF THREE WEEKS I'M TALKING YOU CAN GET YOUR WILDERNESS SURVIVAL BADGE YOU CAN GET LIKE JUST OH MY GOD YOU'RE FISHING BADGES YOUR TOTEN CHIT YOUR FIRE MAN CHIT, YOUR WEAVING, FIRST AID, WOOD CARVING, ARCHERY, So many miles AFOOT/AFLOAT, ORIENTEERING, ETC.... LONG STORY SHORT IS WE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SCOUTS THAT DID DUMB SHIT LIKE THAT ON THE ARCHERY RANGE AND ON THE SHOOTING RANGE WHERE THEY WOULD POINT THE FIREARM OR THE ARROW NOT JUST DOWN RANGE OR UP IN THE AIR OR AT THE GROUND BUT AT SOMEONE AND YEAH THERE WOULD BE HELL TO PAY!! AND WE ALSO WITNESSED ENTITLED SCOUTMASTERS THAT WOULD COME AND YELL AT THE RANGE MASTERS ABOUT IT AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION WOULD ENSUE AS FOR THE POLICE OFFICER FROM THE STORY I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE SO YOU'RE A COP RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS ON YOUR RANGE IF YOU WERE TO POINT A WEAPON AT SOMEONE?? AT LEAST THE FATHER OF THE KID REALIZE THAT HIS KID WAS A LITTLE SHIT AND THAT WENT AS TO BE EXPECTED
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1st story: any officer that does that should be written up and the mom should be fined for abuse of police resources.
Unfortunately, for any of this to happen, someone would have to file a complaint.
And the only person who could possibly do that is OP herself, who was at that time thoroughly intimidated.
The offices should also be fired. What jokes.
Officers have been disciplined / fired for abusing their power in similar cases; using it to intimidate a child would probably result in quicker and more severe disciplinary action.
Police love to abuse there power and if police actually got in trouble for when they abuse there power and police resources it would be near impossible to have police. Lately due to police abuse of power people have been making sure to learn there rights in case a police officer tries to do something. Always make sure to you know your rights in case you have a cop that tries to do something.
Story 1: My mom didn't do the cop thing she had far worse ideas but she did do the part of making certain that for the first 18 years of my life that I couldn't keep anything. I'd go to school, come home for her to smugly tell me that she cleaned my room, or organized my things for me to discover that she had thrown out most of my stuff. This had it's impact in that today decades later I still don't get attached to stuff or hold onto anything for more than a couple years. I'm not materialistic at all but of course that was never her end game.
Story 1 - Oh my… what a monster of a mother! And ANY police officer who goes along with this psychological abuse should be demoted if not fired. And the mother should be arrested for wasting police time and most of all child abuse.
It wasn't Wasting Police Time since the Officer was Off Duty when they did that favour for OP's Momster...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Regardless of if in-uniform or not, a cop 24/7 represents the PD. He could be fired for violating the cause in his contract.
Demoted isn't good enough. FIRE HIM! BLACKLIST HIS ASS!
@@ScottAlanBecker38 That I agree with...while OP's Momster didn't Waste Police Time, he did violate an Officer's Code of Ethics, not to mention Harassing and Threatening a Minor both of which are Crimes when he did that 'Favour' for Momster...
Irony - telling someone they should be in a mental hospital for being disabled while their own older child runs around assaulting people due to “anger issues”.
Sounds like both Karen and her son were the ones who needed therapy. 🙄
Exactly!
Wasting police time on a child who didnt want to play with another kid...thats just sad and twisted.
I know, talk about having a whole lot time on your hand and nothing better to do, as well as wasting time all at once. Did no one tell her that people don’t owe anything to anyone? So what if a kid won’t play with another? It’s not that big of a deal.
She should've been arrested for that. Show that kid her mom is a psycho before she's ruined too
@@alexgomez594I fear it's already too late. She already has her mother's racist views.
@@kitarrah1422not at all
@@kitarrah1422People can grow and change. Hopefully this incident showed the poor little girl that her mom is unstable, and to take everything she says with a grain of salt. If not now then when she's older.
Story 2 - Since when is it a crime for someone to come to a public pool to swim? I hope that ED got an embarrassing lecture from the police and staff.
People like the Entitled Dad assume they can so whatever they want and get away with it, but they oftentimes can't get away with it.
I dont get why the op even bothered to discuss it. The manager said his crimes were being there and swimming. Once that was made clear, the proper response is 'so why are you talking to me?' They literally harassed a paying customer into leaving because a random guy told them to. I'd be putting in a complaint. Doesnt matter how 'nice' the manager was, he ripped off a customer who broke no rules and didn't even border on creepy and rewarded another for abusing other customers.
I hope the cops took a good hard look at the dad, since it's pretty clear his first thought was that adults don't hang around kids without nefarious reasons.
Op forgot to mention eds pretty stupid
@@blender4464 Because unlike a Karen OP is a reasonable person
the mom saying the brother belongs in a mental institute but than her son has anger issues and lashes out the irony….the mom and the son belong in the mental institute
The part that pisses me off is that she used that excuse I have anger issues but I knew how to control it before 14 and that little sissy still had the gull to get mad and punched someone even though he was offered to get another one damn parents are failing us
It’s always the same thing. People notice „bad“ things in others, when they have themselves the real issue
What's this? A cop getting all aggro before accurately assessing the situation? WHAT A SURPRISE, I NEVER WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT.
Story 1: That mother should have been arrested. Children have rights! Slavery is illegal, and if it's family, that only makes it MORE wrong! Not less! More!
Particularly in the USA, children have practically NO rights, apart from the right to live... and even that seems to often be uncertain. The USA is, I believe, the only first-world nation which refused to ratify the UN Declaration on the Rights of the Child. Not that "ratifying" the declaration did anything for any signatory nation since most, if not all, of them seem to honour the declaration far more in the breach than in the observance.
Yeah, good luck with that. There are various states busily dismantling child safety and child labor laws claiming kids are lazy.
The parents are working to provide a roof over the child's head, clothes on the child's back, and food in the child's stomach. Until the child becomes 18, he/she has the rights of a servant, and to an education. After the age of 18, then the child has the right to MOVE OUT. The PARENT owns the house, the PARENT owns the car.
@@lorrainewolfe9430 so the parent has the right to provide something that they intend to throw out after it gets a little use, so that the kid has nothing? If you treat your kids like servants, they will do whatever they can to exercise that right to move out at 18, and it'll be because you made them want to leave your cell block.
Story 3 - Good on OP for keeping his cool while the Cop Dad screamed at him and then telling him what his son did. At least the Cop Dad realized that he messed up when he confronted OP, hopefully he learned to get ALL of the facts before confronting someone and gives his brat of a son a REALLY good lesson about FOLLOWING THE RULES WHEN THEY ARE GIVEN!
If that's his initial reaction, though, I don't imagine he's a very good cop. Even in spite of his gun safety stances.
@Arcane_Route_66 my thoughts exactly. What kind of good cop jumps to conclusions without ensuring they have all the evidence
I agree but this seemed like a pretty young kid. Dad was likely a young father as well. He really screwed up but did apologize. Let’s hope that taught him something.
He's a 🐷 so I doubt it.
The son was a Mike Teavee in the making.
Crazy Karen Story: If I were OP, the moment I heard that Voice Mail Karen left me, I'd have called the Officer from the Park Incident back and had Karen Arrested for Uttering Threats and Harassment...
That’s what I would’ve done taking the recording to the police.
Same here! She made threats on the answering machine, what a freaking idiot, and the OP should have reported it and turned in the tape as evidence!
Once cleared, I have to wonder why pool guy didn't insist that the paranoid dad be charged for making a false police report...
OP probably only wanted the whole situation to be over as soon as possible.
That's normally a bad choice. But with OP being autistic, I can understand why he chose this.
Big buff ED probably just wanted a punching bag. Anger issues? 🤔🙄🤷
@@karinwolf3645 Quick to take side, eh? Ever think of the other side reasoning?
Consider this :
You are a parent.
OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people suspicious. Not to forget that people (children and adults) are half naked in a swimming pool.
Now, I'm not yet going to elevate it to involve the police based just on that. But I'd throw a suspicious look on that kind of adult. Because again, that kind of act is suspicious.
@@gorilladisco9108 an adult enjoying a public place like everyone else is suspicious.... no.
@@bunji4216 Next time some Reddit poster will write she saw some dude lurking in the park and being aggressive when OP "innocently" "approach" him. And you guys will defend her accusation. I bet on it, because that's what happened time and time again here in this channel, namely treat OPs as saints and their words as gospel.
When Karen grabbed the cop's shoulder walkie-talkie, how was she not immediately cuffed and arrested and taken to the station...?
good question.
That’s what I would like to know
That kind of thing is exactly how you can tell that the story is not merely fiction, but chatbot generated fiction. People know how the real world works. Chatbots don't.
B/c she's white based on the context of the story
@@eacalvert That's what I was thinking as well. And isn't it ironic that she's doing something like that and playing the racist card?
Pool Story: When the Police showed up, OP should have told the Police they want to Press Charges against Kevin with Improper use of the Emergency System, Harassment and Uttering Threats (as witnessed by the Pool Manager)...
I would have...
Only the cops can press charge about improper use of the emergency system. That they didn't, meant that they understand what the father was concerned about, even if it's not strong enough for them to act on OP ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And the father had his reason.
OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool where children gathered? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people suspicious. Not to forget that people (children and adults) are half naked in a swimming pool.
Now, I'm not yet going to elevate it to involve the police based just on that. But I'd throw a suspicious look on that kind of adult.
@@gorilladisco9108 It's not that he was an adult, it was that he was a male adult. It boils down to the pure sexism belief that only men are predators.
@@zackkatian3436 Not every predators are men, but ... most predators are men.
Not every bear will chew your face, but will you take chance with that big one digging your trash?
@@gorilladisco9108 Depends on the fur color.
"If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lay down. If it's white, say goodnight."
Story 5 - Hearing this story instantly reminds me of the Karen who called the police on a young girl for selling bottled water ‘without a permit’. This EM is a racist, she’s the one using the race card not OP. I’m only mad that we didn’t hear EM get arrested for misuse of the 911 call or get a hefty fine.
Even apologizing after, scout dad showed really disturbing behavior for a cop.
more so for a scout leader position
We don't know exactly what the kid told his dad. He could have embellished the story while not saying what he did.
@rcrawford42 it's very clear from the context that the kid told his dad he was kicked off without mentioning a reason.
@@brandonshelp4682 Except this was years ago, so OP could have forgotten that.
@jacthing1 no, I reject your "what if" premise. I judge the situation as presented. You are free to indulge in fan fiction.
Story 1: I can completely understand why OP became possessive over their stuff. No doubt that mom was constantly taking things away from OP.
Definitely understandable. My mom would also take my things (or break them in some instances) the second I did the smallest thing she didn't like, so I completely understand becoming possessive
(Granted, it was only ever things like toys or video games in my case, but I'm pretty sure I remember her threatening to take things like my clothes or my bed at least a couple times. She was always eager to jump straight to punishment rather than explain why whatever I was doing was wrong)
@ricochet0928 I feel bad all that happened to you. I was fortunate this kind of thing didn't really happen to me.
However, once I was old enough, I realized that whether it is something like this or entirely something different, it isn't really about the specific obect/s. It's about the disrespect to your things and your feelings. A lot of people don't understand that.
22:01 this is why the people sold the property in the first place.
Always check with the local government and the local police to find out if there have been any ongoing issues or disputes with the property you intend to purchase.
Before I purchased my apartment, my father suggested that I visit on a Friday or Saturday evening just to see what the noise levels were like and if there were any particularly loud neighbours.
It was good advice, at one apartment that I almost purchased I discovered that the building was directly under the airport flight path. The viewing times had been chosen when the planes were not as busy.
You might find the most perfect home, but it won’t matter if there are crazy entitled people living next door or across the street.
5th story: welp at least op found out why all the other kids don't want to play with the Karen's kid. Cause, both her and her kid are crazy.
Mostly Karen. She’s a racist psychopath that caused her daughter to be socially isolated. The poor kid doesn’t even understand that her mom is to blame for her not having friends.
Normally, I wouldn’t do this, but don’t blame the little girl for parroting her mom’s racist bullshit.
Story 2: as someone with autism, I can definitely relate to OP. I like to swim under the water too. Mainly because I like the feeling of having the water covering every part of my body. It’s a sensory thing. It’s also why I like things that are soft and why I can’t sleep with a shirt on. It’s all down to how it feels
It's not about the swimming. It's about OP sitting at the side of the pool where children were gathering. Had he kept on swimming, or sit (more like stand) at the deeper side, he wouldn't attract suspicion. That being said, I wouldn't yet to elevate it to involve police if nothing else happened, but I would make sure to watch him too, if I saw him sitting among the children.
Story #4:
Total Karen logic:
The 10 year old kid with the disability that makes him scream out must be institutionalized.
But her son with anger issues that make him violently attack others can not be touched or held accountable.
I’m pretty sure her son’s future will involve going to jail
More like a “Barbara,” if you catch my drift.
Story 3: Some people just fail to understand how serious these rules are. If he wanted to reenact an action movie scene, do it with a toy gun.
Exactly. You do not point a gun at anything that you're not prepared to shoot at.
Good thing the Entitled Kid's father wasn't actually Entitled, but oh my gosh, what was the kid expecting by lying to his father?
There are literally hundreds of people who die every year in America because "The gun wasn't loaded" when it turns out it actually was. Gun safety should always be taken seriously, no matter what.
@@moebiusjdx7288 Alec Baldwin, anyone?
@moebiusjdx7288 my bow ex brother in law (sister divorced years after) is missing a thumb because the gun he was cleaning "wasnt" loaded......no "person" was injured
Story 3 - This is why, as a parent, you ALWAYS find out the other side of the story your kids tell you before going off on someone else. There’s a fine line between being a good advocate for your child and being their enabler, and you’d better be sure you’re on the right side of that line.
The fact that the dad is a cop is deeply disturbing. Does he get the full story on duty?
@@PassiveSmoking That is both an excellent and deeply unsettling question. One hopes that professional detachment when he’s on the job makes him more likely to keep his cool than on issues where his son is involved, but… 😰
@@PassiveSmoking exactly what I was worried about but he did at least apologize so he might have learned.
That range master was a legit dude. And at least the cop did right in the end.
As a black woman, I’m very disappointed in story, five’s mother because there is no way that I would continue to let my child play with someone whose learn racism from their mother plus to not directly go to the park after finding out this lunatic was the ranting and raving you had to be called again when your daughter Had the police called on her insane to me. Then this woman has the nerve to threaten you to not walk past her house you or your young children she should’ve been dealt with very differently however I do agree with moving because I would not want my daughter around anyone that racist and that entitled!
And that's the thing, she doesn't want to be seen as the racist that she is. Ignorance is bliss and her ignorance is like many who don't know the actual facts or will believe their logic makes sense.
1st story: they need to get the cops name and ID number.
Story 1: Carried a body camera and see how OP mom and cop friend getting roasted/fired for their antics.
Story 5: OP offering a conversation was too generous. I respect her patience and openness, but I wouldn't have been able to do that.
Final Story - Of course OP’s NTA, those neighbors have been warned time and time again to stay off their property and they refused to listen.
Story - why wasn't the mother arrested for fake report, public disturbance, etc?
Story 3: I was in the Army Reserve at one point in my past and was a range officer-in-charge on several occasions, so I know exactly what was up with the rules... especially the "up and down range" rule. Violating any safety rules will also get you kicked off the range and will give you a failure to qualify with your weapon for the year. It's not a joke. Rule 1 of any rifle, hand gun, or other firearm is "Always treat the weapon as if it is loaded." There are no exceptions for "except when you feel like pretending you are reenacting an action movie scene." And as @silverflight01 said, do it with a toy gun... which should have an orange something on the muzzle to readily identify it as a fake/toy.
Story 1: That was overkill for not putting out the garbage straight away.
Story 2: I hope that Kevin was arrested for filing a false police report. He was beyond paranoid.
Story 3: Cop Dad wasn't a total Kevin. He didn't have all the facts and apologized when he found out why his son was banned from the range.
Story 4: Some people have no consideration for other person's disabilities and it all degenarates into physical violence.
Story 5: OP wasn't playing the race card because Karen WAS being racist. Her attitude was absolutely toxic. Another one who should've been arrested for making a false police report.
Story 6: Those toxic neighbours need to mind their own businsess. I agree with DF that a restraining order is going to be next step.
The mom in Story 1 is an abusive, narcissistic tyrant! OP needs to be removed from that household ASAP!
Story 3: that was no Scout. That was a brat. That brat also disrespected two points of the Scout law: a scout is trustworthy and courteous. Clearly he was neither.
Said brat being like Mike Teavee in the aspect of his love for shootings on TV.
My older brother is intellectually impaired (I’m his little sister) and we grew up in 80’s where there was not a lot of information or general knowledge about intellectual disability (not like today’s level of knowledge) he was an integral part of our BMX gang and most kids in our street and neighbouring were awesome. However we got in some residents in the next street over and rode into our street and started having a go at my brother. I was not on my bike at the time and was fixing up a ramp to jump. One of the kids, a girl called my brother some names and attempted to ride away. I chased her down easy, she wasn’t a good rider and dragged her over the handlebars. I punched her a few times and all her friends were screaming at me to stop. My brother and best mate rode over and just observed as she was with a heap of brothers and boys and I was flogging her. I pushed her away and told her to not come back to our street or ever call my brother names again. I only had to do it once and none of the kids in the street she was from come into our street again.
The mom in story #1 will wonder why she is thrown in a nursing home and forgotten about.
Why even bother with a nursing home?
Just forget her right away.
But then you'd have to feel sorry for those who work in said nursin' home.
Shady Pines, Ma!
and then she'll be thrown out of said nursing home and forgotten about!!!
Story 4 - When I was in Taekwondo (about 10 years old) I went to another dojo where there was a boy (probably 12 or 14) who had a form Tourette syndrome, he would just loudly shout at random times and he couldn’t help it. That was my first exposure to Tourette syndrome.
Story 1: Please say that, as an adult, you are not in contact with your mother anymore😟
Story 2: What a lousy manager. He should have had the person complaining leave the place!😠
Story 3: Maybe before chewing someone out, cop dad should get all the facts first😒
7:19 I’m not surprised at all of this and I have had a similar experience to. I drove a small tourist train (like that in zoos or amusement parks) in a small town and happily rang its bell and wave back to people or children. One day a mother had to say that it was creepy for an adult man to wave back to small children…
1st story: I want to know the badge number of that cop. Get him/her fired or on personal leave REAL Quick. And I hope OP now has no contact with psycho entitled mother. And for the commenter, I feel a little bad for the father, but he made that bed and he can lie in it.
2nd Story: I've heard this before, but still I feel so bad for OP for being accused of being a Pedo
3rd Story: I don't care if the gun is loaded or not, you do not point the gun at something you don't intend to shoot. Entitled Crotch goblin was warned and told this multiple times and loved how it backfired on him. Also there's a saying of "There's no such thing as an unarmed gun" which I have a feeling OP was trying to teach as well.
4th story: Hopefully charges were filed on the Entitled Mother and Child. Kid FAFO and good on OP for standing up for their brother.
5th story: I'm facepalming so bad at this story...the mother is so unhinged and needs to go to a mental institution and I'm honestly glad that OP didn't call her back and just moved. I also feel bad for the daughter but seriously hope she doesn't turn out like her mom.
6th story: OP is NTA. They tried their best to compromise with their neighbors and each time the neighbors went above and beyond being entitled assholes. Especially when they were warned by OP, cops, etc. and I agree with Dark Fluff that a restraining order should be next.
Story 1: That is the worst mother of all, and that cop shouldn't even be a cop if he's gonna do that.
All cops are like that. Douches with badges
Story 4 - So the mom tells OP that his brother should be in a mental for his disability while her son, who apparently has a hair trigger on his short fuse of a temper, is free to punch a young kid?
Yeah good luck explaining that in court lady.
If i ever had a kid and they got kicked out of an activity, especially a potentially dangerous activity, i definitely wouldn't yell at the person in charge, i would get the full story. Because my kid must have been kicked out for a reason and i just want to know what that reason is, before i decide on what to do next.
I remember when I was a kid my neighbor came over to tell me I had to play with his daughter and I told him I didn’t have to play with anyone I didn’t want too. His daughter was very entitled and she got it from him. Her mom was nice tho.
Does your police department has absolutely no work to do??? They arrive over such a trivial issue like a child's play!!! seriously dude!!!!!
Story 5: WOW Unbelievable.
damn, story one is a prime example on how to scare your kids from ever calling 911 if they need help. they might be taken away if they do, in their minds
I know someone whose mother tried that, but the kid new things a little better than she or the officer did. Officer did the whole "Rooba rooba jail time record blah blah" and the kid walked over to the squad car and opened the door, then sat down in the back seat. A LOT of back-pedaling, and a couple years later, when he was eighteen, he went into the station to 'reminisce' with the officer - did a number on the guy's career for a couple years.
As for the last story? The entitled neighbors want the property and will harass the hell out of whomever lives there until they agree to sell it to THEM at rock-bottom prices.
Story 2 The Autistic guy should have sued the dad's butt off. Being falsely accused of being a pedophile could have life changing consequences.
The man who accused an autistic person for beeing pedo, should be charged with harrasment !
Story 2: Poor OP. That must have been scary.
Story 1 Instead of praising OP for completing homework she calls the cops on him/her for not being an obedient little robot!
OP is frustrating her power trip.
My mom and dad did the same thing to me. My mom was friends with the Chief of Police, whom she went to high school with. The reason for this is I was hanging out with the wrong people. The officer basically said " either I straighten up or I'll be in these cells with my loser friends, in a day, a month or within a year. If I continue to follow the path I was on!" It pretty much straightened me to do better. Thanks Mom for looking out for me!
Please tell me that last part is sarcastic.
I get what you're trying to say. That for you, what your mom did was a good thing. And I can DEFINITELY see some circumstances where a cop might need to have a serious chat with a child about the consequences of heading down the wrong path. But there is a HUGE difference between what your mom did (a way to say, hey, this group could lead you to bad things) and what OP's mom was doing (obey my every whim immediately or you'll be in jail, even if you aren't doing anything wrong and what is delaying you is more stuff you need to do)
The thing is, OP didn't do anything wrong. He was doing his homework and was on a train of thought. The mom was an abusive tyrant with zero patience
Cop Dad should have been kicked off the range too , after his apology. No self control and should not be shooting on that range. Don't care how cool he turned out to be. Abusing his authority , not knowing the full story.
The ED in the second story doesn't realize that Op has grounds to civilly sue this ED for defamation.
No judge will uphold that because the father had his valid reasons.
OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something.
Now, I'm not yet going to elevate it to involve the police based just on that. But some parents are more easily triggered than others.
@gorilladisco9108 As a cop family member told me, suspicion isn't a reason to call the police, you can be fined for that because you wasted police time which is needed for actual crimes. If OP had actually done anything to warrant others being suspicious of him, besides where he was; or had done anything to prove that your suspicious was correct, then the dad should have gone to management first and only go to the police if the manager didn't do anything if there was behavior or actions showing OP had I'll intentions towards the kids. If people were arrested for "being suspicious" because they are around kids despite not having one, then anyone without kids at a fast food place that has any kind of play area would be put in prison. You can keep an eye out, but don't act on a "suspicious" without proof or justifiable cause.
@@kendowolf1 "As a cop family member told me, suspicion isn't a reason to call the police, you can be fined for that because you wasted police time which is needed for actual crimes."
So, I can put my chair just outside your home, sit down there, staring menacingly toward your home, and you can't do anything about it? How is that make sense?
Are you sure he gave you a legitimate advice or was he just have a bad day at work because of Karens?
@@gorilladisco9108 In that situation, as long as you're not on my property or showing behavior that you are a threat to myself or anyone in my home, I can't do anything about your "suspicious behavior" because you are on public property, not private property.
Story 6- You are not the Aholes. Your neighbors are preventing you from enjoying your private property. I would get a lawyer and take them to court if necessary, maybe a o contact order from a judge. Start documenting everything they do or say.
Story 1: I had this happen to me when I was 8. My stepfather had a cop scare me because of my anger issues. It's 100% a real thing that happens.
Story 2: I'm not surprised this happened. I hate public pools a lot, as an autistic person myself, and I can 100% believe there would be a dad like that. Dealt with entitlement like that before at a go-kart track.
Story 3: Good on OP for not letting that kid get away with being a little shit. Gun safety is not something to fuck around with, and good on dad for at least apologizing after learning the truth.
Story 4: As someone with severe social anxiety, this story explains it perfectly. People can be so stupid about mental disorders. Good on OP for being a good big sibling and taking control of the situation.
Story 5: Oh, a repeat. No big deal, great story. The mother in this story is super crazy and needs to be put into a hospital personally. No, Karen, OP's daughter does not need play with your little crapcake.
Story 6: If the property doesn't belong to you, you do not have the right to complain about it. If I want to build a greenhouse with non native plants, you can kindly screw off.
Pretty sure story 2 was a repeat as well, but still all good stories.
@@ryukaze7392 I don't recall it, and I listen to fluff almost religiously, lol. But yeah
The first story is a perfect example of how to make sure your children have an unhealthy relationship with law enforcement. The children are going to grow up resentful of the police.
Story 6 After having them arrested several times and them still trespassing it's time to inform the police that the next time they are caught you will be exercising your second amendment rights and will be calling to have the police come and remove the bodies. After many attempts to solve the same issue and several arrests i was forced to shoot a neighbor who tried to enter my home with 3 of his teenage kids and a firearm. I was on the phone with the police when he broke down my front door and attacked my wife. This all resulted from me catching his teenage sons stealing the fuel that I kept in my garage for my mowers and 4 wheeler. I asked him to keep his kids off my property half a dozen times before I called the police and had one of them arrested. It only escalated from there. Now I don't have to worry because dad is in prison for 25 years and the teenage sons were all sentenced in adult court to sentences ranging from 7 to 15 years in prison. The mother has since divorced dad and moved away with the 2 daughters after thanking me for allowing her to escape the situation she was in.
No. Never threaten to use a firearm, and only use one if you are in fear of imminent death or severe bodily harm. Making that threat could be considered premeditated in the hands of a prosecutor.
Story 4: When the boy punched OP's brother in the chest, makes me wonder if that wasn't the first time he's ever done something like that.
Some people think that any adult who is near children is a pedo; especially if that person isn’t with children of their own. The pool rules do _not_ say that every adult must be accompanied by a child so OP wasn’t doing anything wrong.
nothing better than listening to entitled people stories while eating dinner
Mom called police story: OP, it's too bad you didn't tell your school principal and/or guidance counselor about this little incident. That would have gotten the officer involved disciplined, possibly severely enough that none of your mother's other officer friends would risk doing the same.
Pool story: It sounds like the entitled dad just needed a victim to pick on for the day and chose you, OP. Good grief!
Gun range story: You did exactly right OP. Cop dad could have initially handled it better by asking questions first, but once he did have all the info he corrected immediately and apologized. Hopefully, the scout actually learned something.
Brother vs tea story: So what actually happened when the police arrived? Don't tell just half the story.
Playing kids story: Can't force anyone to be your friend if they don't want to be, in a public space or not. No laws about that at all. Idiot! No wonder the girl didn't have any friends.
Trespassing story: The neighbors should be glad you've been calling the police instead of friends like Smith & Wesson or Winchester to take care of the trespassing problems. I would go to the trouble of getting some motion activated lights as well as cameras around the property to document their activities. Plant some very thorny bushes on the inside of your fence. If you're in a climate that will support them, maybe some cactus.
Just moved into my new home. Half of a double. My 5 year old was digging in the dirt and throwing t over the wall. Old woman next door yelled at me about it. Not long after, my doorbell rang. It was a cop. He said he was here about some....dirt....? Explained story and he said 'I have more important things to do than this' he was not happy. Had many problems with hat crabby lady.😅
Story 2
False accusations. Any consequences?
Story 1: I would have said...and YES even at 12...to the cop "Fine...DO IT...take me to juvie...I want to see how you explain to a judge that DOING MY HOMEWORK is a crime."
Story 2: I would never have given my details to police without demonstrable probable cause. Though I would inform them of the threat the guy made. Then stayed at the pool.
Story 5: Karen commits: 1) Harassment 2) Abusing Emergency Services 3) Assault of a Police Officer 4) Using Emergency Equipment w/o Authorization 4) Disturbing the Peace
Story 6: OP is NTA. Install security cameras. Use the constant harassment...both in person (by trespassing) and by mail...to get a No Contact Order against them. Enforce it.
2) The fact that OP as an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, near where children are playing.
How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park near where children are playing?
Those facts were reason enough for probable cause. And if OP aggravated it by refusing to give his identity, that's ground for arrest too. And police will even more likely to side with the father after that.
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You know the feeling when in public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinal, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
@@gorilladisco9108
As I said...if they actually have the demonstrable probable cause then of course you would give them your information.
I'm dizzy from shaking my head.
I probably have whiplash tbh
@@crimsonmaelstrom573 Yeah, and the ER doc put me in concussion protocol. Said I shouldn't be listening to heavy metal and thrashing. I told him I was listening to Darkfluff and Fluffing. 🤣🤣
Story 4: by Karen's logic her son also belongs in a mental institution if he has this level of anger issue
story 2
should have pressed charges for defamation
Or filed a lawsuit for slander.
All the gun ranges that I’ve been to tell you outright that the safety orientation is the only warning that you will be getting. I remember taking a few minutes breaking down the sniper style rifle I had brought with me so it would go into the slots custom made for it and saw the person next to me and just finished shooting and thought they had cleared the mag. When I looked over their son ( I think he was around 15 to 16 so definitely should have known better) pointing the 45 colt in my direction. Trying to keep my cool I told him just loud enough that only he and his dad could hear to point the gun down range even if it’s not loaded. The gun I would later learn had a misfire on its last round so imagine my shock to hear the kid telling me to shut the f-up and pulling the trigger of the gun to try and intimidate me. The gun goes off and the bullet just does miss me by little less than a centimeter and the staff wrestling the gun out of his hands. I would later be told by one of the staff that the dad had told his son the point the gun at me an pull the trigger to scare me thinking it was empty. He got arrested and the son also got arrested. It still sends a chill down my spine just thinking about how close I came to getting my head blown off by a stupid kid all because they broke the safety regulations for the range.
If that was me I would have got a lawyer and I would have sued both of them. The place. And the man for defamation
Story 2: If I ran the Kevin through the database, I would guess I found something -- those who accuse are the ones guilty enough to do worse...
Don't treat every Reddit poster as saint. Try to understand the other side reasoning.
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You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. He didn't do anything suspicious, just unzip and pee.
However ... (insert Bill Burr voice here)
I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
I had a similar issue happen to me as OP in story 1. I was fed up with how my mother was acting so when the officer made his threat, my response sent her into tears "Go ahead, send me to juvie, put me in foster care. I'll be better off for it and may actually get parents who give a crap about me." Sure my words had more foul words but that'll only get my comment deleted.
She actually toned down her controlling and emotional abuse after that, not enough to prevent me going NC with her as soon as I turned 18, but enough that made the last five years of my teenage life tolerable. My mindset was, since I was already planning to self minecraft if it kept up, I had nothing to loose. Still have that dark mindset lingering in the corner of my mind but I have a good support group of friends to keep me stable.
Some people have no rights being parents, end of story.
Story 1: It wouldn't surprise me if the mom was sleeping with the police friend.
Story 2: that dad probably has some issues and is projecting
2. Why do you treat OP as saint? A normal person will see that what OP doing is suspicious.
You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. He didn't do anything suspicious, just unzip and pee. Alongside you. Juuust peeing.
However ... (insert Bill Burr voice here)
I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
about the OP in the pool, I have to wonder wheether the "buff dad" wasn't a child abuser himself, attempting to cast shade on an innocent person.
How about a normal person?
You see ..
OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, where children are playing? How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park where children are playing? It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something.
Now, he surely over the top to call police based on just that. But you need to understand his reasons, and not treat every OP in Reddit as saint.
The idea that an adult cannot even be in the presence of kids without it being "creepy" is, itself, even creepier.
Some guy sitting alone in a park where kids are playing... maybe he's just taking a break from a walk, or is on his lunch break. Or he's just enjoying the sun. Absent him doing something beyond sitting there YOU are the one thinking about horrible things.
@@rcrawford42 Next time some Reddit poster will write she saw some dude lurking in the park and being aggressive when OP "innocently" "approach" him. And you guys will defend her accusation. I bet on it, because that's what happened time and time again here in this channel, namely treat OPs as saints and their words as gospel, and not to try to understand the reasons of other side of the conflict.
Oh, and claiming autism help too, apparently. Victim trophy for everyone!
2nd story- wow, that dad was just a bully😮
How about a normal dad? Even when he's an overprotective one?
OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, near where children are playing?
How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park near where children are playing?
It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something.
Story 4: The son should have been locked up. That was assault and OP was defense.
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Story 2: My heart goes out to OP, since being autistic can make these things feel 10 times worse than to an allistic person. Otherwise it's not really relevant, and he didn't need to use it to defend himself. Besides, any parent there with their kids was just as likely to be a pervert, but the dad decided to just single out OP, just for doing what is perfectly normal to do at a public pool. Circumstances don't make a person guilty, actions do. And some people just like to dive under the water and prefer it doesn't get in their eyes. Get over it!
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You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
Last story; consider electrifying the fence. 😂
3rd story : the cop dad shouting before asking, that is a pretty huge red flag. I wonder where he learned that, and how does he perform in his job
I was in a toxic household growing up and when I escaped one night turning 18 mom called the police on me saying I stole this I stole that. My entire life I bought my own stuff and kept receipts even for my bed that she swears I stole. I was even able to save one cat but couldn't on the other. Mom faked papers and when Susie passed dad threw her ashes in the garbage. And they keep wondering why I keep my distance
The crazy neighbors are trying to run those people off the property on purpose. They most likely want that land, but don't want to pay for it. So, they are trying to run off anyone who lives there hoping it will either become abandoned or the owners will sell it cheap.
Last story: since land mines are frowned on, might as well get an electric fence.
The story about the guy getting into trouble for swimming, I'm wondering if it's a case of liars think that everyone is a liar.... (Those that understand, will understand)
Story 2 is exactly why, despite the fact that I love to swim in pools, I don't when any kids are there. I don't want something like this to happen to me.
Why would the manager kick someone out of the pool when they weren't doing anything wrong. Also why would the manager call the police when they didn't witness a damn thing. If the guy called, then why kick op out. Have the police talk to the guy with the manger. This story makes zero sense.
The Kevin dad probably made the phone call
The police de-escalated the situation by taking OP somewhere else.
And about that father ...
You know the feeling when in a public toilet, where there are 8 empty urinals, and you pick the farthest one to pee, then enter this guy who choose the urinal just beside you. He didn't do anything suspicious, just unzip and pee. Alongside you.
However ... (insert Bill Burr voice here)
I don't know about you, man. But I'm sure thinking I'm gonna be raped if I stay any longer.
While cop dad probably was used to dealing with people “roughly” to his credit he acted 100% correctly when he found out that the issue was his son’s improper handling of a firearm. He’s a cop, he’s well aware of how important gun safety is. He did right after his first big error.
His kid probably told a very distorted account of what happened.
@@rcrawford42 Very likely.
Story 2. Just because the buff dad gets hot and bothered looking at kids doesn't mean that everyone does. Buff guy should stop projecting his sick behavior onto others. But P's think they are normal and that every man is just like them.
The. Co cop. Should have called CPS on that mother , she has issues!!!
The 1st story is *not* "using cops to terrorize your children for not doing chores", it's "using cops to threaten your kids for not dropping everything they're doing to obey your every whim right that second". The OP said (s)he needed about 10 minutes to finish homework that was due tomorrow, and (s)he would do the chores right after, but the mother took "gimme few mins and I'll do it" as "HOW DARE YOU ASK ME TO DO CHORES!". -_-
Story 1. In 20 or 30 years time, that mom will be in a nursing home wondering why her children never visit her.
Story 1: Think the corrupt cops are the true bad guys here.
Omg how did the police even acknowledge the call at all? I mean that should have been like ma'am you're abusing this 911 operations we are going to be finding you for your misuse of the 911 services.
Also the mother touching the officers radio should have been considered assault of an officer or at the very most disruption of an officer's duties.
Story 3: this reminds me of my time working at a scout camp. Back in ‘15 I was working ScoutCraft (more arts and crafts merit badges taught like leatherwork, photography, and art). I was teaching the art merit badge, and the particular day we were working on the multi medium project portion. And the end of the time allotted I gather the projects. And as I go through them I saw a plethora of styles. Then I noticed a fully folded sheet. Confused I opened it. What I saw on it was a rather short yet vulgar note to me about his opinion of my class. This would have been slick if it weren’t for the fact that he had been with the first year program. So I called over his supervisor of his group and handed him the note. Later that day a boy from a local unit to the camp with his scoutmaster show up. The boy was made to apologize and the boy learned a lesson that you shouldn’t think you’re anonymous in such a big group.
To the trespassers problem you sue them for harassment when you get into their pockets they'll behave
Or they start getting truly vicious.
Story 2 - the dude who called the police is just projecting.
How about OP gave that guy all the wrong vibe?
OP is an adult, sitting alone, at the side of the pool, near where children are playing?
How is that different from an adult sitting alone at the park near where children are playing?
It sure can make people, especially parents, justifiably suspect him of something.
I think its story #3: why would you shoot in the air? Live Bullets will come down, wouldn't it be better to hold your weapon toward the ground till you are ready to shoot.
When you have crappy butt-hole neighbors (or HOA), cameras are a requirement, not an option. You should be discrete about the cameras. That way the butt-holes would keep up their actions and do something really illegal.
1st story- my dad was a corrections officer and my tia was/is a sheriff and they would do that all the time when we were little and the adults would just laugh, most recently my tia showed up to a family event with her lights on to scare the kids
STORY 2- ASIDE FROM NOT KNOWING THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY FOR A MALE KAREN, I DO HAVE TO SAY THIS WHO THE HELL DOES THAT FATHER THINK HE IS?? IT'S CALLED THE PUBLIC POOL PEOPLE GO THERE TO SWIM AND RELAX... IT IS A PUBLIC AREA IT'S A PUBLIC POOL MIND YOUR OWN EFFING BUSINESS AND JUST HANG OUT WITH YOUR KID... HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE SOMEBODY OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT LIKE IN THIS DAY AND AGE THAT CAN RUIN SOMEONE'S REPUTATION!! LIKE OPIE WASN'T EVEN BOTHERING ANYBODY HE WAS JUST DOING HIS OWN THING AND NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY THAT FATHER NEEDS TO LEARN TO MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS AND PISS OFF!!
STORY # 3- I WAS A BOY SCOUT BACK IN THE DAY AND I GOT MY RIFLE AND SHOTGUN MERIT BADGES (BOTH OF THEM)... DURING SUMMER CAMPS AT THE BIG BOY SCOUT CAMP IN THE AREA. IT WAS A CAMP CALLED CAMP ROTARY AND EVERY SINGLE SUMMER FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS WE WOULD HAVE A HUGE SCOUT JAMBOREE AND I'M TALKING THERE WOULD BE HUNDREDS OF BOY SCOUTS FROM ALL UP AND DOWN THE EASTERN SEABOARD IN THIS ONE CAMP. LIKE THIS IS WHERE A MAJORITY OF MERIT BADGES COULD BE RECEIVED OVER THE COURSE OF THREE WEEKS I'M TALKING YOU CAN GET YOUR WILDERNESS SURVIVAL BADGE YOU CAN GET LIKE JUST OH MY GOD YOU'RE FISHING BADGES YOUR TOTEN CHIT YOUR FIRE MAN CHIT, YOUR WEAVING,
FIRST AID,
WOOD CARVING, ARCHERY,
So many miles AFOOT/AFLOAT, ORIENTEERING,
ETC....
LONG STORY SHORT IS WE HAD A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SCOUTS THAT DID DUMB SHIT LIKE THAT ON THE ARCHERY RANGE AND ON THE SHOOTING RANGE WHERE THEY WOULD POINT THE FIREARM OR THE ARROW NOT JUST DOWN RANGE OR UP IN THE AIR OR AT THE GROUND BUT AT SOMEONE AND YEAH THERE WOULD BE HELL TO PAY!! AND WE ALSO WITNESSED ENTITLED SCOUTMASTERS THAT WOULD COME AND YELL AT THE RANGE MASTERS ABOUT IT AND THAT WHOLE SITUATION WOULD ENSUE AS FOR THE POLICE OFFICER FROM THE STORY I WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE SO YOU'RE A COP RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS ON YOUR RANGE IF YOU WERE TO POINT A WEAPON AT SOMEONE??
AT LEAST THE FATHER OF THE KID REALIZE THAT HIS KID WAS A LITTLE SHIT AND THAT WENT AS TO BE EXPECTED
2nd Story: that is clearly defamation.