Superstitious Behavior in Dog

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024
  • What is Superstitious Behavior in Dogs?
    Superstitious behavior refers to actions that dogs (and humans) perform that seem irrational but are believed to influence outcomes. For example, why does a dog spin or bite before attacking? This behavior often becomes a default, something the dog reverts to under stress.
    Key Takeaways from This Episode:
    Default Behaviors: These are actions dogs learn first, perform best, and revert to under stress. Defaults can be desirable, undesirable, or neutral.
    Training Implications: Understanding and managing superstitious behaviors is crucial in training, whether it's protection or obedience training.
    Practical Examples: From dogs spinning before an attack to sitting crookedly during a heel, we discuss various behaviors and their implications.
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Комментарии • 17

  • @muleridinfool
    @muleridinfool 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for another good vid. A few months ago, I commented on one of your video's, and I mentioned my dislike for a spinning dog. I'm glad you took the time to go into it some more. Your reasoning on why they do it, makes a whole lot of sense now. It also gives me more to think about on that topic! Again, good stuff guys.

  • @sharonblakeney-mcdonald8217
    @sharonblakeney-mcdonald8217 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for another informative video. Discussing the topic of changing dog trainers in the midst of training would be beneficial. Many people may not realize the potential challenges it could bring about.

  • @saveadog64
    @saveadog64 11 дней назад

    We see this so much in dog rescue when working with dogs on threshold/barrier manners or calming. So many dogs freak out when the leash comes out or when you get to the door, dogs being the narcissists that they are they take the path of lease resistance to gain access to what they want. So their previous owners frantically put the leash on the dog, the dog learns the more they flop around the faster the leash goes on and faster they get outside. You'll see that behavior increase in intensity assuming that the dog is learning that the more intensely, or "better" they do this behavior, the sooner they get what they want. If that makes sense.

  • @injene66
    @injene66 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the lessons you have shared.

  • @itsfinneganagain
    @itsfinneganagain 5 месяцев назад +1

    ❤ 🎉 ❤ THANK YOU!!! The "sequence" is what I was missing!!!

  • @WhoDat-tz3bn
    @WhoDat-tz3bn 5 месяцев назад

    do you think the dog may spin as a ploy? when i see it i sometimes think they are pretending to give up a vulnerable spot as a lure to bait the “threat” in. what’s your opinion?

  • @thankmelater1254
    @thankmelater1254 6 месяцев назад

    Superstitious ASSOCIATION can be a useful tool.
    The example given of fear of black cats, that is not superstitious association - it's a superstition.
    The association and thereafter behavior, would only be the first time a black cat crossing the path, is associated with bad luck, and so is afterward avoided.
    The superstition, however, is handed down as a tale, without the receiver ever first having the experience or association.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 6 месяцев назад

      To include superstitious BEHAVIOR, that would be the resulting behavior after forming the SPURIOUS ASSOCIATION of the two.
      If someone had the experience of a black cat crossing their path and then something undesirable happened, they formed the spurious association of the two events, leading to superstitious behavior, like the spinning dog did.
      With humans, who pass on tales, the idea is a superstition, with the receiver/believer never having had the two events and following spurious association of the two events.

    • @Hans-AlpineK9Real-pg5wu
      @Hans-AlpineK9Real-pg5wu 5 месяцев назад

      @@thankmelater1254 true. Superstitious "behavior" may be result of 2 different events. Experience or someone past the superstition as a story (parent on a child). In case of the dog the superstition is ONLY a result of the individuals experience.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 5 месяцев назад

      @@Hans-AlpineK9Real-pg5wu I agree of course, except for I cannot be sure that the dam or the pack does not transmit "what is fearful or to be avoided", to the young, through the elders' own demonstrations or even by teaching.
      If you agree that elders "teach" youngsters through their own demonstration or through reprimands, then how to rule out passing on superstitious behavior which becomes superstition, in that youngster in that case?

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 5 месяцев назад

      @@Hans-AlpineK9Real-pg5wu "In case of the dog the superstition is ONLY a result of the individuals experience."
      My disagreement comes by my definition; the first is the dog makes a spurious or false causation relationship between 2 events (usually with temporal or timing connection) or items, and may then form a superstitious *behavior*.
      Only when that superstitious behavior is learned by another, or "passed on" without direct experience, is it developing a superstition.

  • @uv4439
    @uv4439 6 месяцев назад

    Genuine question. You call it superstitious, but in the podcast you refer to (rightly so) conditioned behaviour. So where does superstition come in? No criticism, just trying to make sense of it. Thanks

    • @hans-alpinek9real
      @hans-alpinek9real  5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s a conditioned behavior that does make sense 😊

    • @uv4439
      @uv4439 5 месяцев назад

      @@hans-alpinek9real makes sense. Thanks for responding.