What did you think of South Park Snow Day 🤔 ALSO - I realized the games audio wasn’t coming from the wrong side I just regularly wear my headphones backwards WHOOPS
Being 3D and having a season pass really sounds like demands from higher upside " 2D games don't sell anymore and add add a season pass those sell great"
i don't know, given how firm trey and matt stood their ground before, i have a hard time believing they'd not just allow but actively endorse and market a project like this without it being what they wanted to do.
South Park in 3D doesn't even need to look this bad, with some cell shading and jerkier movements, it couldve looked much better. Seriously, who thought that realistic lighting looks even remotely good? It looks like unity shovelware
The 2D games take too many resources, especially when they’re trying to meet their paramount and MAX guidelines. They’re also not game developers first, this is the first time they made a 3D game, attempting to experiment is part of the process, they’ll know for next time. They should be allowed to pump out one sh!tter lol
Honestly, I’m kind of against any paid game that also has paid microtransactions, I believe that if you pay for a game, you deserve the full game. This is how things used to be before big companies got greedy and everyone would’ve been better off except the greedy companies if it had stayed that way.
I agree it would be like if you bought a house use your imagination I know getting a house nowadays is almost impossible but if you bought one but it just gave you one room and you had to pay extra to buy a roof, kitchen, bathroom and hallway
You have stronger principles than I, though I certainly regret supporting some of those games. I definitely still regard it as greedy though, I just wish they'd make up for it with a great game.
Yeah, and even if you’re going to make microtransactions for the game, at least make it something that you can still get in the game, so the payment is just a shortcut instead of an actual paywall.
I was like 16 when I got fractured but whole and I remember the lady at the kiosk being SUPER pissy about it and glaring daggers at my mom for allowing me to get it.
I mean, if your mom was with you buying it lady probably assumed you were on the younger side. Not to mention for all its childish fart jokes it still has some very sexual stuff and content I wouldn't let a schoolkid play.
@@bluecanine3374 The full story is that I tried to buy it myself, she quite angrily pointed out the M rating on the box and told me to put it back, and THEN my mom bought it for me and the lady was probably angry that my mom was okay with me playing M rated games since she was clearly buying it for me.
Wow, what a Karen. I mean it would be different if you were like nine years old, but the fact that she was just silently judging your mom for buying a SIXTEEN YEAR OLD a South Park game, is so ridiculous.
There is something existentially comedic about them promising a CRED cosmetic pack as part of a season pass when the entire point of that episode was that it was a terrible drink only carried by a brand that made kids think they’re cool. Does that remind you of anything else?
i still wish they had done an RPG based on "good times with weapons", that could genuinely go hard the 3D graphics are really off-putting here, the colors and shadows look so gloomy in a lot of the cutscenes and the look of the show just doesn't translate well to 3D at all
Yeah I remember everybody suggesting the theme for a third installment of the RPG South Park games be ninja themed. A pity Matt Stone and Trey Parker don't seem to want to make a third RPG game to wrap up the story of "New Kid".
A part of me thinks one of the reasons this game was so hated was the change of art style and the lack of payoff to the ending of TFBH where the New Kid works with Butters as Professor Chaos.
I never understood why so many people season the ending of fbw as a true cliffhanger that was gonna be followed up on in the future. It was obvious meant to be a joke
@@jeremybottoms7619 Even so, to certain fans, the idea of the New Kid potentially becoming a Villain Protagonist in the next game was a fun plot line potential
If they were gonna tackle a 3D South Park game again, they should've gone for the cardboard cut-out construction paper style of the South Park intro introduced in Season 17.
When I heard the next game was gonna be 3D, I was really hoping they meant it’d look something like that intro, or something like Yoshi’s Crafted World
I kind of wish South Park as a franchise would disappear for a little bit. I'd like to see a movie version of Book of Mormon and for the duo to create something entirely new, as well. I think the pressures of keeping up with the weight of the South Park name as well as Matt and Trey's approach to the series currently is just making everything feel a bit weak. Just can it for a few years and come back strong
Their current contract is probably going to be their last one due to them saying in a interview a little while back around the time this contract was announced that they're halfway done with making the show. I feel like the newer episodes hasn't been bad, they've mostly been good
I don’t know how the fuck we went from SoT and FbW to this garbage. Matt and Trey seem to genuinely care about games and making their own be of good quality. Sucks that this is the follow up.
I don't think the toilet paper currency is a COVID thing/joke. If you live anywhere where it snows, people act like the world is ending and will buy out all tp, milk, eggs, etc so they don't run out if they're snowed in/lose power
I feel like what made Fractured But Whole work was that South Park had changed a good bit between it and Stick of Truth's release. There was enough to really shake things up. That really isn't the case here. Snow Day was arguably cooked because the source material was run dry. Not saying South Park fell off (it's a bit inconsistent tho). It's just that you can only make so many games based on the same thing before you realize there's little new to go on. Edit: To be clear, the lack of original material is no excuse for the gameplay to be as repetitive as it is or the landscapes to be so barren.
I'm in the same boat, they basically have 1 last great premise to go off (Good Times With Weapons/Anime/Ninjas) but South Park really hasn't gone "Big" for a long while. Which seeing the serialization is just kinda odd, seems like a really missed opportunity to get really creative with it.
What's worse is, that the fractured but whole hints at the new kid potentially becoming a villain, which could have worked perfectly with the other kids trying to keep them from becoming OP again.
I genuinely can't believe no one at any point in development said "wait, you want to cover every level in snow?...The entire screen is going to be white, there's going be nothing to look at or way to differentiate each level", it's jsut such an incredibly dumb idea for a South Park game which has so many background references and iconic locations.
Yeah, South Park is the name of a town, but the game doesn't really care about this fictional geographic entity. The intro cinematic couould have been about the characters sent in another place instead of being about a snowstorm and the rest of the game would still work.
Thats basically what this video is honestly would love to see him make a video on some roguelikes and lites, see his opinions on them (on one of his other channels of course)
i really love how the Black Friday trilogy basically was a big o game of thrones parody just to advertise the old game. that how clever the marketing was for that game
@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 Eso puede haber ayudado con el marketing porque, al igual que con MK1, no recuerdo que este juego se haya anunciado en absoluto.
I still thought this game was a remake of the n64 game because why else would they do a snow themed 3D game. But it's not a high quality remake of a game that was bad and instead just something new and terrible.
I think matt and trey shouldn't have signed that deal with paramount and saved themselves the thousands of dollars they've lost to sign with Ubisoft again
With the small amount of levels, lack of checkpoints, random card perks, and trying to get players to replay already existing levels, a part of me wonders if this was intended to be a Roguelike at some point, but then that idea got scrapped. If that's what happened, it's a shame, because just having a lack of checkpoints and random upgrades isn't what makes Roguelikes fun. The genre thrives off of quick runs that encourage the player to try and try again until they get it right, not off of one boring level that takes an hour to get through. The random upgrades in Roguelikes are meant to encourage players to find new strategies and synergies, instead of just relying on what works like what happened in your playthrough. Progress also needs to happen very fast in a run so that the player has something to latch onto, rather than constantly feeling weak all the time. Honestly, if this game *had* gone the Roguelike route, with levels that only take about 20 minutes to beat but encourage multiple playthroughs, it maybe wouldn't have been too bad.
When I was around 13, I started getting into South Park so I played Fractured But Whole and I loved it, so when they announced this I was so excited, I pre ordered it as soon as I could, and now I’m just really disappointed. I don’t think the game is horrible, but compared to the quality standard South Park has set with the past few games, it felt really lacking
Man, youtubers are really embracing this cool "compilation to fall asleep to" format. First caddicarus and now mark. Now I just want a Midnight Mark compilation of all the "Ranking every episode" vids just because it would be funny how long it would be
Good point, it would have actually made sense to switch from 2D to 3D in-game to emphasize their imaginations taking over, and looking like they did when they were playing ninjas. Perfect setup for laughs too, like when Professor Chaos gets hit with a shuriken, then we see butters gushing blood from his eye freaking out.
All it takes are 3 Google searches to understand the state of this game: Stick of Truth: Obsidian in their prime, right around when they did New Vegas Fractured but Whole: Ubisoft San Francisco, definitely have the resources to make a good game Snow Day: Question LLC, a small indie developer with some cool games under their belt, but not in line with the triple a quality of the past two for sure
Which, nothing against Question LLC, they seem really cool! And the game looks great for an indie game! But between them being a smaller less equipped team and a seeming lack of effort put in from the South Park team it just seems like it was doomed from the start.
@@fenpirikala Actually I think it was more like 2009 (before NV was even released), but the bulk of production still occurred after its development had concluded. My point was that New Vegas wasn’t Obsidian in its prime - sure the writing was on point but it didn’t even use their own engine. Also genuinely curious - when did he say he was a fan of new vegas?
Learning that Mark is younger than me feels weird.. I'm 25 and I still feel like I'm on the youngest end of people but I'm constantly reminded that nah, most people I interact with online are my age or younger.. I still feel like I'm 17.
Wait until your over 30. Seeing all these comments from kids saying they loved Stick of Truth when they were 10 year old makes md feel weird. Both on the me being old side and like literal kids playing games with with some of the stuff it has in it (11 year old taking on Jared from Subway with his ejac attack? Or Spontaneous Bootay? Feels weird)
@@platlo4848 Yeah to be fair I've met A LOT of people online and in person who are older than me but act considerably younger. But I mean I feel 17 because I still feel young, when I realise a ton of people online are younger than me.. makes me remember that I'm getting older haha.
@Ghostlynotme445 No quadruple a means it took longer than any other game in the history of the industry to release, and then turns out to be a live service game that is impossible to like.
this game really brought be back to a simpler time where you either got decent games or games like these and there were many, nick toons unite, fairy odd parents, teen titans. licensed videogames that wasn't the best or wasn't the worst but you played them for the fun hanging with friends or seeing your beloved IP in a different light or interactable. I've seen an interview with the creators saying they wanted a more simple multiplayer game since one show creator already got the game type he is into which is rpgs where the other likes multiplayer. yes this game isn't as good as the others but if you want a game that feels like that play that. but for someone that likes rouge likes and multiplayer games where I can just enjoy time with my siblings or friends this is exactly what I was looking for a game i can beat in a day with my buds and experience it in a genre i love as well. I hope the dlc makes it more enjoyable for the mass audience that didn't like it but for me I'm glad I got this game and hope to have my option help anyone else that felt like I did. yes only 3 weapons per type but play a rouge like its usually from 3 to 6 characters to choose from and the dame repetitive cards its just the genre we are in but for what they made and being the first they made I definitely enjoy it and still have it downloaded on my ps5
Honestly I feel like this game could've been something like pvz's garden warfare where you do have a story mode with AI like you have here but you can play on previous maps in a multiplayer mode and I can definitely see capture the point or payload push in Snow day and if they have to incorporate the card mechanics have the players need to play the story mode to unlock various cards or use their TP or whatever currency they have spare to buy new ones they can both use in the story mode and in multiplayer like in garden warfare where you can unlock different variants of plants abilities or whatever and after such n such amount of time or at the beginning of combat or after some form of checkpoint (like maybe after a point is taken for example) the teams vote to add certain cards in replacement of previous ones you can vote to keep some cards in play or switch them out for others depending on how the game is going and bith teams can do this giving dynamic battles as the game progresses. there's alot of ways snow day could've done better but instead they just proceeded to have it fall somewhat flat literally just make it like garden warfare and you'd be good it's a replayable game with cards various players can randomly have to change up the battle for a time there's so much squandered potential
@@randyking2057I'm glad you agree throughout the entire review I just kept thinking of garden warfare especially how the mechanics and gameplay were very similar at least at a glance it really shows how Snow day was kinda rushed in most regards the graphics are good and smooth and whatnot but the gameplay elements just aren't up to par and seeing how alot of snow days gameplay is done better in garden warfare proves how much it was just rushed and wasn't cared about all that much with only a singular campaign to play and the game only having card collecting and upgrading as any form of padding that you can't even really flaunt because there's no online which it really could have easily (again compared to garden warfare snow day could've easily done the same online battle mode and it would've been just as good) it's just disheartening seeing all it could've easily been yet it isn't
What are you talking about? Battle For Neighborville still has the same exact gameplay as the GW games, it just changes the artstyle (and has a much lower budget). Snow Day is literally another type of game, that doesn't have anything in common with the other 2 games.
Wild that they decided to go with a Covid allegory for a game released in 2024 especially considering how well they already did it when it was relevant.
They could've done a 2022 Northeast Blizzard story. That's where I assumed it was going with the "huge blizzard" angle. Have it be like Fallout in the snow.
I went shopping with my family at Walmart, and in each console’s game cases they always had it in the farthest to left left column in the farthest to the left shelf on the top row, to the point where my family HAD to notice [what made it worse was that my five year old sister was pointing at the games and shouting the names out loud]
8:18 “What the fluff? Why isn’t it working?” “Your drawing isn’t good enough for the magic to work. Just give up wizard.” “Is this guy from Ohio or something?”
Buy a game called *_"snowday"_* Angry because there is _only snow_ There really could have done more to at least differentiate the different areas though, I think the snow esthetic looks great but I can see how boring it can get after a while when there's little variation.
I grew up in middle school when South Park was brand-new and they were banking off its sudden explosive popularity with merch like T-shirts and of course videogames... The N64 FPS game was... ok, but largely forgettable as it was clear they never playtested it since like the final boss was just about impossible to beat without invincibility. Once the Stick of Truth was out decades later, it felt like they finally got it right making a South Park game that actually FELT like you were playing the show. This... It feels like they were so focused on making a trilogy and with the first 2 games being in 2D, they did the common and obvious thing from the 90's with "instead of a South Park 3, let's make it a South Park 3D!" like they did with other franchises like Earthworm Jim... with... seemingly similar results. A shame.
I think what this game does really well, is showing how South Park really doesn’t look good in 3D. It’s kinda weird to say that the N64 looks pretty similar
Honestly your point about the Paramount deal makes the most sense, especially when one of the first skins day 1 to buy is from the CRED special...smh...
I like the idea of Snow Day but it feels so lack luster nothing has impact the combos throw you accross the map (floaty) the rouge like card thing was super annyoing and i really wish we had proper classes in other words - i wish it was just Stick of truth with realtime combat in an open world it could have killed dragons dogma if it did that
Ubisoft should’ve let South Park Studios make Snow Day as a Western RPG. Because Stick of Truth was Fantasy, Fractured Butt Whole was Superhero, and Snow Day should’ve been a western draw.
I'm not an American so every time there I was watching a cartoon and there was some plot about the school being closed because of snow I was like what the hell that never happens over here
Well,that's why I think South Park should continue in the branch/road of the "MOTHER-style RPGS"because that, for me is the style of game that South Park works in the best possible way from the beginning. Oh and if you ask me what kind of theme the new possible South Park RPG should use,i think the best ones could be theme of Good Times With Weapons or Lil'Crime Stoppers.I think it would come out really cool for sure.❤
the rpgs also allow for fun battles and vaiety of enemies, and excuses to make unique scripted events like when you battle gnomes while your parents are fucking
I wish they made a game based of the episode "Fun times with weapons" Cool weapons to fight foes with, seeing the all characters get cool ninja design's & add some metal gear stealth sections.
I remember me and a coworker looking at this and I immediately was hesitant on this game, while they kept telling me that "This game is gonna be the shit." I mean, both in the narrative and reviews, I guess he was right.
Next SP game should totally revist the 'Good Times with Weapons' aesthetic as an action RPG or something. It'd be different than the superhero and fantasy stuff they've already done, plus it's a fan-favorite episode. It'd be cool to see the entire town reimagined in that anime style as well.
This is almost like Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League, as the game was bashed for what they did to Batman as it was meant to be Kevin Conroy's last role before his passing, before the news of his true last projects were revealed.
I will always think about that one youtube comment that suggested that the next south park game should focus on a multiverse theme. The potential it could've had with mix and matching characters and abilities.
What's really telling is that I love South Park, and I make an attempt to stay apprised of news, on the franchise, and I had no idea that this had even released, and that was two months ago.
Matt and Trey must've really phoned it in whith this game. Because so far, nothing about this game feels like a step up for the first two. They strayed too far away from the established formula. Even the title "Snow Day" feels generic when "Stick of Truth" and "Fractured But Whole" felt like unironic appropriate titles for a South Park Game
While the hate this game is getting does sort of bring me down, I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed. _South Park_ has been running for a very long time, so Matt and Trey might be running out of ideas for other parts of the show's franchise aside from the show itself since there's always new ideas to implement as it stays up to current events. I'm actually starting to notice that the amount of hype that was brought up for this game makes it feel more like a cash grab for the _South Park_ franchise if anything (kind of like how _Daria_ has a game called _Daria's Inferno_ and it was poorly received), especially considering how the collector's edition is like, $200. The talking Cartman toilet paper holder is funny though.
It’s so weird seeing so many negative reviews about this, Matt and Trey were working on this directly and then reviews were saying it’s like an episode of the show.
Because in the UK and many other places, you begin high school at age 11. We don't have such a thing as 'middle school.' America is not the only place in the world (thank Christ).
I don't get it, they're hoping to attract enough people who buy everything as long as it's southpark? Or is there a correlation between rougelike live-service games and tiktok kids?
I think most of us saw this coming from a mile away. 3D art style, costs half the price of your average AAA video game, developed by a fairly obscure game studio. I was still hoping for the best, though. Oh well. Hopefully now Trey & Matt are working on the sequel to TFBW.
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What did you think of South Park Snow Day 🤔
ALSO - I realized the games audio wasn’t coming from the wrong side I just regularly wear my headphones backwards WHOOPS
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I haven’t played it but I might
It’s okay but not as good as my game in the future
Haha snow day
Itssss good
South Park games should honestly stick to 2D animation rather than 3D. Just looks so much more appealing to me
honestly, if it looked like the intro of the show, id be down for a 3d south park. like something almost paper mario esque
@goatsoup I agree that's what everyone thought the game would be when they announced that it would be in 3d
the 3d games on the ps1 were fun. the concept definitely has potential if they just wouldn't have rushed out 5 hours of lazy rinse and repeat gameplay
I think a 3D South Park game could be amazing... if they made it more like Hit and Run, not a dungeon crawling fighting game.
Yep, not like there are any actual problems with the game, surely it’s not that you just don’t like how it doesn’t look like the show….
Being 3D and having a season pass really sounds like demands from higher upside " 2D games don't sell anymore and add add a season pass those sell great"
The video game equivalent of their bit in the special: Gut the content, and add a pass!
Yeah the 3D is fine but from the very beginning nothing about this game sounded good and it only got worse when we started getting official details.
@derbettnasser4027 2D games sell well all the time, idiot executives just see a chart and decided to hit ever checkmark they can that sells well
i don't know, given how firm trey and matt stood their ground before, i have a hard time believing they'd not just allow but actively endorse and market a project like this without it being what they wanted to do.
never liked the "higher ups" excuse. game designers can be bad at their jobs guys. Not every artist is a good artist. we can admit this. come on.
Having the theme be Vikings or something to fit with the extra snowy enviroment would have actually helped this game feel somewhat unique.
That would have been hilarious and could be awesome
Or derivative of Skyrim
@@bumblehoney7206 do you mean have it be a fantasy viking setting?
That could have worked better
Dude Southpark take on skyrimmmm would be amazingggg instead
South Park in 3D doesn't even need to look this bad, with some cell shading and jerkier movements, it couldve looked much better. Seriously, who thought that realistic lighting looks even remotely good? It looks like unity shovelware
Exactly what I was thinking, it looks like a unity asset flip cash grab, thq makes good stuff what happened...
*The Stick of Truth:A Beatiful Begining.*
*The Fractured But Whole:A Epic Sequel.*
Snow Day:...A LAME Thingquel.
Snow day is the only one i liked 😢
@@WetcameraincI only liked the first game and the final battle is way too hard I still haven’t beaten it.
I bet you are hating withoit having played the Game which is good
Snow day is basically Shrek the third
The 2D games take too many resources, especially when they’re trying to meet their paramount and MAX guidelines. They’re also not game developers first, this is the first time they made a 3D game, attempting to experiment is part of the process, they’ll know for next time. They should be allowed to pump out one sh!tter lol
Honestly, I’m kind of against any paid game that also has paid microtransactions, I believe that if you pay for a game, you deserve the full game. This is how things used to be before big companies got greedy and everyone would’ve been better off except the greedy companies if it had stayed that way.
Eh there just gonna get greedier
I agree it would be like if you bought a house use your imagination I know getting a house nowadays is almost impossible but if you bought one but it just gave you one room and you had to pay extra to buy a roof, kitchen, bathroom and hallway
You have stronger principles than I, though I certainly regret supporting some of those games. I definitely still regard it as greedy though, I just wish they'd make up for it with a great game.
Yeah, and even if you’re going to make microtransactions for the game, at least make it something that you can still get in the game, so the payment is just a shortcut instead of an actual paywall.
yeah thats why i hate minecraft!
I wish the second game made a Canada DLC where you unlock Ike as a new hero and the new "Knight" class
This has potential. Like, have it revolve around ike helping the royal family and maybe you are trained to be a knight by Terrence and Phillip.
I like that idea
I wish we can once get full games released without stupid DLCs
@@hrkozl To be fair, FBW was a full game, and the DLCs were completely different stories, like it would've been here
Ooolde oooolde@@hrkozl
It’s funny because the new kid became ACTUALLY overpowered. Like he could fart himself back in time. Him and Kenny are the only two with any powers.
"...diddly."
fun fact: mysterion (kenny) actually acknowledges this when he’s escorting new kid to the police station on the 3rd night in tfbw
I was like 16 when I got fractured but whole and I remember the lady at the kiosk being SUPER pissy about it and glaring daggers at my mom for allowing me to get it.
Amazing.
I mean, if your mom was with you buying it lady probably assumed you were on the younger side. Not to mention for all its childish fart jokes it still has some very sexual stuff and content I wouldn't let a schoolkid play.
@@bluecanine3374* "I WAS LIKE 16" *
@@bluecanine3374 The full story is that I tried to buy it myself, she quite angrily pointed out the M rating on the box and told me to put it back, and THEN my mom bought it for me and the lady was probably angry that my mom was okay with me playing M rated games since she was clearly buying it for me.
Wow, what a Karen. I mean it would be different if you were like nine years old, but the fact that she was just silently judging your mom for buying a SIXTEEN YEAR OLD a South Park game, is so ridiculous.
I really hope Trey and Matt get to make the ACTUAL third South Park game in 2d instead of being forced to make one after signing that contract.
There is something existentially comedic about them promising a CRED cosmetic pack as part of a season pass when the entire point of that episode was that it was a terrible drink only carried by a brand that made kids think they’re cool. Does that remind you of anything else?
...what?
haha
There's a reason they're listed as the 2 most "richest voice actors in the world…"
hi gabri
It's cred as a joke, cred isn't even a drink
i still wish they had done an RPG based on "good times with weapons", that could genuinely go hard
the 3D graphics are really off-putting here, the colors and shadows look so gloomy in a lot of the cutscenes and the look of the show just doesn't translate well to 3D at all
Yeah I remember everybody suggesting the theme for a third installment of the RPG South Park games be ninja themed.
A pity Matt Stone and Trey Parker don't seem to want to make a third RPG game to wrap up the story of "New Kid".
I KNOW RIGHT!?
the theme for third entry is RIGHT THERE! you could get really wacky trying to design everything to match the anime-eque style!
A part of me thinks one of the reasons this game was so hated was the change of art style and the lack of payoff to the ending of TFBH where the New Kid works with Butters as Professor Chaos.
God hoping for New Kid Villain arc will come in the next game!
I never understood why so many people season the ending of fbw as a true cliffhanger that was gonna be followed up on in the future. It was obvious meant to be a joke
They just decided to stop playing superheros, it’s that simple. Next time they play superheroes they will resume the plot
@@jeremybottoms7619 Even so, to certain fans, the idea of the New Kid potentially becoming a Villain Protagonist in the next game was a fun plot line potential
Nah, the game's just bad, it's boring, it LACKS content, and there's not much "south park" feel in it.
Don't even hate the style at all.
I still find it hilarious that all the kids are pissed at our character for getting too op the past two games
If they were gonna tackle a 3D South Park game again, they should've gone for the cardboard cut-out construction paper style of the South Park intro introduced in Season 17.
completely agree
So like paper Mario?
@@10yearsinthejointguyreal Stick of Truth's combat system is basically Paper Mario
When I heard the next game was gonna be 3D, I was really hoping they meant it’d look something like that intro, or something like Yoshi’s Crafted World
Totally! Have the characters be 2D sprites, and the world be 3D
I kind of wish South Park as a franchise would disappear for a little bit. I'd like to see a movie version of Book of Mormon and for the duo to create something entirely new, as well.
I think the pressures of keeping up with the weight of the South Park name as well as Matt and Trey's approach to the series currently is just making everything feel a bit weak.
Just can it for a few years and come back strong
Their current contract is probably going to be their last one due to them saying in a interview a little while back around the time this contract was announced that they're halfway done with making the show. I feel like the newer episodes hasn't been bad, they've mostly been good
I don’t know how the fuck we went from SoT and FbW to this garbage. Matt and Trey seem to genuinely care about games and making their own be of good quality. Sucks that this is the follow up.
It’s just one suck let’s make sure next time they make a game back to 2d
@@Ghostlynotme445true, if Sonic taught us anything is that even if you make the shittiest game ever you can still make something great later
Too busy running a restaurant.
@@thereluctanthipster6075 so that's why they're not funny anymore
@@Ghostlynotme445 They tried something new and it works for what it is, it clearly isn't trying to be anything than just a game.
I don't think the toilet paper currency is a COVID thing/joke. If you live anywhere where it snows, people act like the world is ending and will buy out all tp, milk, eggs, etc so they don't run out if they're snowed in/lose power
I feel like what made Fractured But Whole work was that South Park had changed a good bit between it and Stick of Truth's release. There was enough to really shake things up. That really isn't the case here. Snow Day was arguably cooked because the source material was run dry. Not saying South Park fell off (it's a bit inconsistent tho). It's just that you can only make so many games based on the same thing before you realize there's little new to go on.
Edit: To be clear, the lack of original material is no excuse for the gameplay to be as repetitive as it is or the landscapes to be so barren.
Some suggest it shoulda been Good Times with Weapons based
South park between 2014-2017
I'm in the same boat, they basically have 1 last great premise to go off (Good Times With Weapons/Anime/Ninjas) but South Park really hasn't gone "Big" for a long while. Which seeing the serialization is just kinda odd, seems like a really missed opportunity to get really creative with it.
@@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx A lot happened in those 3 years
What's worse is, that the fractured but whole hints at the new kid potentially becoming a villain, which could have worked perfectly with the other kids trying to keep them from becoming OP again.
I genuinely can't believe no one at any point in development said "wait, you want to cover every level in snow?...The entire screen is going to be white, there's going be nothing to look at or way to differentiate each level", it's jsut such an incredibly dumb idea for a South Park game which has so many background references and iconic locations.
Yeah, South Park is the name of a town, but the game doesn't really care about this fictional geographic entity. The intro cinematic couould have been about the characters sent in another place instead of being about a snowstorm and the rest of the game would still work.
That "Midnight Mark" announcement felt so surreal it almost felt like I entered an alternate reality where Caddicarus did not exist.
I like how progressively pissed he gets, truly an amazing character study of a man falling from sanity
TLDW; Mark discovers rougelikes and enjoys them, however the first rougelike he plays fucking sucks
Thats basically what this video is honestly
would love to see him make a video on some roguelikes and lites, see his opinions on them (on one of his other channels of course)
i really love how the Black Friday trilogy basically was a big o game of thrones parody just to advertise the old game. that how clever the marketing was for that game
Si solo fue una mezcla extraña de la guerra de las consolas y Game of thrones cuando estaba en su punto pero aquí no hay nada de eso
@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 Eso puede haber ayudado con el marketing porque, al igual que con MK1, no recuerdo que este juego se haya anunciado en absoluto.
LS Mark saw Caddy Sleeps and he thought "I can do that"
Yeah, South Park should stick to 2D after the disaster that was South Park n64. It just seems jarring to see cutscenes being 2D and playing 3D.
I still thought this game was a remake of the n64 game because why else would they do a snow themed 3D game. But it's not a high quality remake of a game that was bad and instead just something new and terrible.
To be fair, if you quit trying something after one failed attempt a couple decades ago, you'll miss out on potentially good products
its like a rougelike made by someone who's never played a rougelike before.
I think matt and trey shouldn't have signed that deal with paramount and saved themselves the thousands of dollars they've lost to sign with Ubisoft again
Trey, not Ryan.
Oh fuck supermega was involved in this game :0
Who is Ryan?
@@dylansharp8471 sorry autocorrect made a mistake
@@twood12301the funny brothers?
With the small amount of levels, lack of checkpoints, random card perks, and trying to get players to replay already existing levels, a part of me wonders if this was intended to be a Roguelike at some point, but then that idea got scrapped. If that's what happened, it's a shame, because just having a lack of checkpoints and random upgrades isn't what makes Roguelikes fun. The genre thrives off of quick runs that encourage the player to try and try again until they get it right, not off of one boring level that takes an hour to get through. The random upgrades in Roguelikes are meant to encourage players to find new strategies and synergies, instead of just relying on what works like what happened in your playthrough. Progress also needs to happen very fast in a run so that the player has something to latch onto, rather than constantly feeling weak all the time. Honestly, if this game *had* gone the Roguelike route, with levels that only take about 20 minutes to beat but encourage multiple playthroughs, it maybe wouldn't have been too bad.
When I was around 13, I started getting into South Park so I played Fractured But Whole and I loved it, so when they announced this I was so excited, I pre ordered it as soon as I could, and now I’m just really disappointed. I don’t think the game is horrible, but compared to the quality standard South Park has set with the past few games, it felt really lacking
If you got it on steam and haven’t played for more than 2 hours you can always return it.
@@keeby4 oh shit, really? I might do that I don’t think I played for more than an hour and a half but I might be wrong time is a blur to me now
@@M0d_Oit’s only $29 it’s not like other throw a game for $70
@@M0d_O yeah, it’s a pretty cool policy they have. Just go to the website and go to the support section
I hope you learned the lesson: no pre-orders.
Man, youtubers are really embracing this cool "compilation to fall asleep to" format. First caddicarus and now mark. Now I just want a Midnight Mark compilation of all the "Ranking every episode" vids just because it would be funny how long it would be
20:43 I think your headphones might be backwards. It sounds good to me.
Looking for a comment that said this thought I was crazy
Yep, it's good for me too.
haha i thought i had mine on backwards because it was normal for me.
Same, thought I was missing something 😂
Something I don’t get is why they didn’t go with Ninjas instead of Medieval Again.
Good point, it would have actually made sense to switch from 2D to 3D in-game to emphasize their imaginations taking over, and looking like they did when they were playing ninjas. Perfect setup for laughs too, like when Professor Chaos gets hit with a shuriken, then we see butters gushing blood from his eye freaking out.
Because this game seems like a experimentó and they are not gonna waste the ninjas with it.
Weren’t there ninjas in tfbw
@@DamnZtar I meant like as in the kids being Ninja’s. Remember Good Times with Ninjas?
All it takes are 3 Google searches to understand the state of this game:
Stick of Truth: Obsidian in their prime, right around when they did New Vegas
Fractured but Whole: Ubisoft San Francisco, definitely have the resources to make a good game
Snow Day: Question LLC, a small indie developer with some cool games under their belt, but not in line with the triple a quality of the past two for sure
Which, nothing against Question LLC, they seem really cool! And the game looks great for an indie game! But between them being a smaller less equipped team and a seeming lack of effort put in from the South Park team it just seems like it was doomed from the start.
SoT came out 4 years after New Vegas tho
@@maxt6301yeah but develope it started sometime in 2011, in part because Trey Parker was a fan of Obsidian & New Vegas
@@fenpirikala Actually I think it was more like 2009 (before NV was even released), but the bulk of production still occurred after its development had concluded. My point was that New Vegas wasn’t Obsidian in its prime - sure the writing was on point but it didn’t even use their own engine.
Also genuinely curious - when did he say he was a fan of new vegas?
Holy crap 12 years old? My mom would murder me if I watched South park at such an age...then again yes it is a pretty wild show
Yeah, he watched at a way too young age. It damaged his brain and made him become a sonic fan/hj
South Park Snow day graphics looks so cool but if you look the gameplay looks very boring
“You look at Snow Day, it’s beautiful. You see Snow Day, and it’s rotten to the core.”
- A Quote from a better game
It doesn't look good either. It just looks... wrong.
Just what we needed... an HD remaster of South Park 64.
Learning that Mark is younger than me feels weird.. I'm 25 and I still feel like I'm on the youngest end of people but I'm constantly reminded that nah, most people I interact with online are my age or younger.. I still feel like I'm 17.
I'm 17 and feel older than most people online.
Wait until your over 30. Seeing all these comments from kids saying they loved Stick of Truth when they were 10 year old makes md feel weird. Both on the me being old side and like literal kids playing games with with some of the stuff it has in it
(11 year old taking on Jared from Subway with his ejac attack? Or Spontaneous Bootay? Feels weird)
@@platlo4848 Yeah to be fair I've met A LOT of people online and in person who are older than me but act considerably younger.
But I mean I feel 17 because I still feel young, when I realise a ton of people online are younger than me.. makes me remember that I'm getting older haha.
I’m 26 I get it
Yeah dude i feel like this at 16
It would’ve been pretty cool to do 2D characters in a 3D environment that’d be sick
Is it just me is it that at 20:40 Cartman DOES come from the right and Kyle from the left? I'm definitely not wearing my headphones backwards
yup, i think mark had his on backwards
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@@LSMarkWomp womp…..
im so confused lol i thought i was crazy when it sounded fine
also just looking at the editing roll would show that its right and left no? ur editor left u high and dry there
Yeah we learned the hard way about dying and restarting the chapter. I turned it off and haven't been back since.
EA ceo will see this shit and say it is quadruple A game
It’s $29 game quadruple a games is $70 with micro transaction
@Ghostlynotme445 No quadruple a means it took longer than any other game in the history of the industry to release, and then turns out to be a live service game that is impossible to like.
Classic Ubisoft
this game really brought be back to a simpler time where you either got decent games or games like these and there were many, nick toons unite, fairy odd parents, teen titans. licensed videogames that wasn't the best or wasn't the worst but you played them for the fun hanging with friends or seeing your beloved IP in a different light or interactable. I've seen an interview with the creators saying they wanted a more simple multiplayer game since one show creator already got the game type he is into which is rpgs where the other likes multiplayer. yes this game isn't as good as the others but if you want a game that feels like that play that. but for someone that likes rouge likes and multiplayer games where I can just enjoy time with my siblings or friends this is exactly what I was looking for a game i can beat in a day with my buds and experience it in a genre i love as well. I hope the dlc makes it more enjoyable for the mass audience that didn't like it but for me I'm glad I got this game and hope to have my option help anyone else that felt like I did. yes only 3 weapons per type but play a rouge like its usually from 3 to 6 characters to choose from and the dame repetitive cards its just the genre we are in but for what they made and being the first they made I definitely enjoy it and still have it downloaded on my ps5
This is not 10 hours of you being sexually attracted to sonic characters >:(
Honestly I feel like this game could've been something like pvz's garden warfare where you do have a story mode with AI like you have here but you can play on previous maps in a multiplayer mode and I can definitely see capture the point or payload push in Snow day and if they have to incorporate the card mechanics have the players need to play the story mode to unlock various cards or use their TP or whatever currency they have spare to buy new ones they can both use in the story mode and in multiplayer like in garden warfare where you can unlock different variants of plants abilities or whatever and after such n such amount of time or at the beginning of combat or after some form of checkpoint (like maybe after a point is taken for example) the teams vote to add certain cards in replacement of previous ones you can vote to keep some cards in play or switch them out for others depending on how the game is going and bith teams can do this giving dynamic battles as the game progresses. there's alot of ways snow day could've done better but instead they just proceeded to have it fall somewhat flat literally just make it like garden warfare and you'd be good it's a replayable game with cards various players can randomly have to change up the battle for a time there's so much squandered potential
Wow this is a way cooler idea
@@randyking2057I'm glad you agree throughout the entire review I just kept thinking of garden warfare especially how the mechanics and gameplay were very similar at least at a glance it really shows how Snow day was kinda rushed in most regards the graphics are good and smooth and whatnot but the gameplay elements just aren't up to par and seeing how alot of snow days gameplay is done better in garden warfare proves how much it was just rushed and wasn't cared about all that much with only a singular campaign to play and the game only having card collecting and upgrading as any form of padding that you can't even really flaunt because there's no online which it really could have easily (again compared to garden warfare snow day could've easily done the same online battle mode and it would've been just as good) it's just disheartening seeing all it could've easily been yet it isn't
Guys, I have a theory
Stick of Truth = PvZ Garden Warfare
Fractured but Whole = Garden Warfare 2
Snow Day = Battle for Neighborville
BfN way bettet than Snow Day, it just got cut too short
Neighborville definitely had more effort put into it than Snow Day
What are you talking about? Battle For Neighborville still has the same exact gameplay as the GW games, it just changes the artstyle (and has a much lower budget).
Snow Day is literally another type of game, that doesn't have anything in common with the other 2 games.
True
Nah don't do BNF like that, it's not the games falt that EA focuses on money first, and content second.
Wild that they decided to go with a Covid allegory for a game released in 2024 especially considering how well they already did it when it was relevant.
They became lazy sellouts
Maybe this game was in development hell for a while
They could've done a 2022 Northeast Blizzard story. That's where I assumed it was going with the "huge blizzard" angle. Have it be like Fallout in the snow.
"South Park had a rough transition to 3D"
I went shopping with my family at Walmart, and in each console’s game cases they always had it in the farthest to left left column in the farthest to the left shelf on the top row, to the point where my family HAD to notice [what made it worse was that my five year old sister was pointing at the games and shouting the names out loud]
8:18 “What the fluff? Why isn’t it working?” “Your drawing isn’t good enough for the magic to work. Just give up wizard.” “Is this guy from Ohio or something?”
haha ohio xD sanest dude form ohio swag form ohio gang from ohio
Buy a game called *_"snowday"_*
Angry because there is _only snow_
There really could have done more to at least differentiate the different areas though, I think the snow esthetic looks great but I can see how boring it can get after a while when there's little variation.
Too much -water- snow
They shouldve just stuck with the Blackout Club honestly
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I grew up in middle school when South Park was brand-new and they were banking off its sudden explosive popularity with merch like T-shirts and of course videogames... The N64 FPS game was... ok, but largely forgettable as it was clear they never playtested it since like the final boss was just about impossible to beat without invincibility. Once the Stick of Truth was out decades later, it felt like they finally got it right making a South Park game that actually FELT like you were playing the show.
This... It feels like they were so focused on making a trilogy and with the first 2 games being in 2D, they did the common and obvious thing from the 90's with "instead of a South Park 3, let's make it a South Park 3D!" like they did with other franchises like Earthworm Jim... with... seemingly similar results.
A shame.
I think what this game does really well, is showing how South Park really doesn’t look good in 3D. It’s kinda weird to say that the N64 looks pretty similar
Honestly your point about the Paramount deal makes the most sense, especially when one of the first skins day 1 to buy is from the CRED special...smh...
I like the idea of Snow Day but it feels so
lack luster
nothing has impact
the combos throw you accross the map (floaty)
the rouge like card thing was super annyoing
and i really wish we had proper classes
in other words - i wish it was just Stick of truth with realtime combat in an open world
it could have killed dragons dogma if it did that
Ubisoft should’ve let South Park Studios make Snow Day as a Western RPG. Because Stick of Truth was Fantasy, Fractured Butt Whole was Superhero, and Snow Day should’ve been a western draw.
South Park: Snow Day, should've been Wildwest as the theme rather than the Fantasy.
I'm not an American so every time there I was watching a cartoon and there was some plot about the school being closed because of snow I was like what the hell that never happens over here
Marks accent has evolved to become a strange combination of Irish and American 😂
First year of highs school at 12? HUH?!
Australia
@@mollz3704he is irish
You reap what you sow-th park
You killed it, Kenny!
It literally feels like the game trey said he was always afraid the 1st two games would be.
Well,that's why I think South Park should continue in the branch/road of the "MOTHER-style RPGS"because that, for me is the style of game that South Park works in the best possible way from the beginning.
Oh and if you ask me what kind of theme the new possible South Park RPG should use,i think the best ones could be theme of Good Times With Weapons or Lil'Crime Stoppers.I think it would come out really cool for sure.❤
the rpgs also allow for fun battles and vaiety of enemies, and excuses to make unique scripted events like when you battle gnomes while your parents are fucking
I wish they made a game based of the episode "Fun times with weapons"
Cool weapons to fight foes with, seeing the all characters get cool ninja design's
& add some metal gear stealth sections.
I remember me and a coworker looking at this and I immediately was hesitant on this game, while they kept telling me that "This game is gonna be the shit."
I mean, both in the narrative and reviews, I guess he was right.
“There are no checkpoints in this hour long stage!?”
Yeah I felt that because I lost a boss fight to Stan with that damn Axe he had
A South Park game inspired by the paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series could work in my opinion
Next SP game should totally revist the 'Good Times with Weapons' aesthetic as an action RPG or something. It'd be different than the superhero and fantasy stuff they've already done, plus it's a fan-favorite episode. It'd be cool to see the entire town reimagined in that anime style as well.
20:34 Did bro have his headphones on backwards? It sounds correct to me
This is almost like Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League, as the game was bashed for what they did to Batman as it was meant to be Kevin Conroy's last role before his passing, before the news of his true last projects were revealed.
It's so weird how we went from the kinda bloated but still pretty good FBW to a game that's the complete opposite of bloated and the opposite of good
Still don’t understand why they did a hack n slash rather than 3rd person fps snowball fight.
Never liked South Park, the Thanksgiving episode where turkeys eat Kenny's eyes scared the shit out of me when I was little
K
I will always think about that one youtube comment that suggested that the next south park game should focus on a multiverse theme. The potential it could've had with mix and matching characters and abilities.
There already exists a third South Park RPG. It’s a mobile game called South Park: Phone Destroyer. Play that instead of this, it’s completely free.
Hey Mark... you can click the left stick to sprint as well lol. Fixes the whole "pressing b or O" thing
Hot take: I don't hate the way the game looks
I don’t either.
Its bad because Obsidian didn't make it.
Obsidian didn't make Fractured but Whole and that game is better than Stick of Truth
@@ellagage1256we can agree both games are good but if either of them made this game it would be a lot better
What's really telling is that I love South Park, and I make an attempt to stay apprised of news, on the franchise, and I had no idea that this had even released, and that was two months ago.
20:21 the characters sounded like they were on the correct side to me? are your headphones backwards or something? are mine?
I thought when I saw the ads “Ah, an action RPG instead of turn based” and now I don’t wanna play it
20:40 the voices came from the correct directions for me...
Are my headphones broken, or is Mark trolling?
Nichole being a side quest is very random, they never did much with her in the show, so I find it weird that she is a face for a side quest but idk
Matt and Trey must've really phoned it in whith this game. Because so far, nothing about this game feels like a step up for the first two. They strayed too far away from the established formula.
Even the title "Snow Day" feels generic when "Stick of Truth" and "Fractured But Whole" felt like unironic appropriate titles for a South Park Game
While the hate this game is getting does sort of bring me down, I guess I shouldn't be too disappointed. _South Park_ has been running for a very long time, so Matt and Trey might be running out of ideas for other parts of the show's franchise aside from the show itself since there's always new ideas to implement as it stays up to current events. I'm actually starting to notice that the amount of hype that was brought up for this game makes it feel more like a cash grab for the _South Park_ franchise if anything (kind of like how _Daria_ has a game called _Daria's Inferno_ and it was poorly received), especially considering how the collector's edition is like, $200. The talking Cartman toilet paper holder is funny though.
If they add pvp as a dlc this game will do great everyone’s just being negative.
It’s very weird for a show that’s art style is meant to replicate paper decided to go 3D
Yeah, from paper to paper mache
because 2D wouldn't of worked for the game they wanted to make lol
@CartoDarko then they should have made a different game.
It would’ve made sense for this one to go for a war theme, snow trenches sound cool and would make sense
I really don’t know how you didn’t pick up on this, but THQNordic is the publisher, not the developer. That would be a studio called “Question”.
32:57 was that an American Dad! reference?
20:45 I hat to say it but Cartman's voice comes from the right and Kyle's comes from the left
It’s so weird seeing so many negative reviews about this, Matt and Trey were working on this directly and then reviews were saying it’s like an episode of the show.
How were you 12 in your first year of High School?
British/Ireland thing
Because in the UK and many other places, you begin high school at age 11. We don't have such a thing as 'middle school.' America is not the only place in the world (thank Christ).
I just pressed in the left stick to run instead of holding ⭕️
They're trying to appeal to the Tik Tok kids who see this under Joe Rogan talk about how dangerous bears are or some shit.
I don't get it, they're hoping to attract enough people who buy everything as long as it's southpark? Or is there a correlation between rougelike live-service games and tiktok kids?
@@JuanPiece. tiktok kids actually helped a lot for south park popularity in the last year
the fact that the season pass is listing cosmetics, new weapons and a game mode… I wonder if we will get actually story updates but I heavily doubt it
He really pulled a "Caddy Sleeps" on us
I think most of us saw this coming from a mile away. 3D art style, costs half the price of your average AAA video game, developed by a fairly obscure game studio. I was still hoping for the best, though. Oh well. Hopefully now Trey & Matt are working on the sequel to TFBW.
The way dude finishes his sentences hurtsehh
I agree-ehh