Why Do South Park Fans HATE Wendy Testaburger?
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Back when Matt and Trey released the Spirit of Christmas, the South Park boys weren't the only characters introduced. A group of unnamed children waiting in line to see Santa Claus is also featured, as is a little girl sitting on Santa’s lap wearing a distinctive pink beret. Before there was Butters, Tolkein, Clyde, Tweek, Craig, Jimmy, Timmy, or even Ike Broflowski - there was Wendy Testaburger. Wendy is NOT a particularly popular character amongst fandom, but is the hate justified? Let's explore.
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Very encouraged by how many of you didn’t even realize some fans hate Wendy!
I had no idea, I realy like wendy
I'm starting to think that the fans that hate Wendy are just a relatively small, very loud minority.
It’s probably the five Reddit fans screaming so loud no one else can hear. I’m actually so confused by people not liking Wendy. Literally never heard that opinion even once honestly
Yeah I had no idea people hated her
I'm a VERY casual fan of southpark but I've literally never heard of this hate before
I hate Wendy because she never tested a Burger.
Facts
We cooking a burger with this one boys
@@1ternityMind hamborger moment
💀
But did she test a ham?
If you see Cartman as the hero of the show, Wendy is a villain. I think that sentiment explains some of the hatred of her. Regardless of how people feel, it’s hard to deny that she’s one of the most well-written characters in the show, and that she fills her role perfectly.
Amén to that. And She's a hero. Cartman is a villain protagonist, She's a hero antagonist. And her beatdown of him is legendary. Love your content btw
I just see Wendy as the female version on Kyle. They would fill the exact same role if one them went away, the only difference is that Kyle cares more about Cartman than she does, and she doesn't have that many worthwhile moments in the grand scheme of things.
It genuinely chills me to the bone to think that ANY South Park fan could possibly see Eric Cartman as the hero of the show. If you don't see that the whole entirety of South Park is Matt and Trey relentlessly ripping on the pathetic self-serving sociopathy of Cartman and ripping on society for tolerating it, you're not watching the same show I am.
@@thirdpedalnirvanareal. People who think that scare me. Like stay tf away from me, what.
@@communistskeletonpiss There was someone in Blooms’ comments arguing that Cartman is the hero and actually the combination of Matt and Trey…because deep down that Cartman is always right…and somehow it was woke liberals that ruined it? Truly insane.
I remember seeing people fighting about Cartman loosing the fight 💀. Idk why tho, Cartman's NEVER been portrayed as a strong character when it comes to fighting, he's always getting bodied by Kyle and he cried once Kenny gave him a single tap
I think the only time Cartman ever had a psyichal advantadge over someone was when he fought the dwarf motivational speake
Maybe people heard him saying "I'm not fat, I'm buff" and really thought he was telling the truth
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil he never said that, he says big-boned
I mean David did actually have a blackbelt in karate, and still got floored EASILY while Cartman was laughing the entire time. In comparison the Wendy fight was so one sided you would be forgiven for assuming that Cartman was just letting her beat the shit out of him.
@@travelingmerchant6434 Ah, yes, because Cartman beating a guy with a blackbelt in karate is somehow less script than a 6 years old girl who does a shit ton of activities beat the shit out of a 6 years old sedentary obese boy who constantly cries when hit once
Seeing Wendy breakdown while she photoshops herself still hits me to this day 😢
“Don’t disturb the universe.” -The Chocolate War
Could you imagine if her law to make use of photoshopped images illegal actually had passed? I would have been sitting in jail for animating my little sparkledog characters.
I mean, she litterally ends up happily getting breast implants later.
fr I was waiting for that episode to have a crazy twist and everyone accepting themselves and happy ending but it caugth me off guard when the ending credits showed in the most depressing part
Its a hilarious scene what do you mean? Its when she gives in, everytime she gives in it shows how hypocritical and weak she really is. Its hilarious.
At the risk of sounding ignorant I didn’t even know she was hated. She was always just kind of there to me with occasional interesting moments.
Me too
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Dude same, how is she hated AT ALL
Same, she's kind of an offshoot of Stan in my mind. That people feel strongly about her character is surprising to me.
Same
The fact that she beat up Cartman makes her my favorite character by default.
yup, me too. and as a result, all the cartman stans will have their lady time in perpetuity about her
@GamingCaveman1989 nobody cares that much are u really 34 years old and still giving a fk lol
That exact fact makes her hated by a very deranged setof fans
Exactly, this is how I knew she was my favorite. Kyle talks big game but he doesn’t beat Cartman’s ass nearly enough for me. Wendy wrecked his ass so good he will never try to fight with her physically at least.
She was so real for this
FAIR
I’ve always really liked her. She’s the female version of Stan, the female character who deals with complex issues, like in the Hobbit or the Stupid Spoiled Whore episode. She’s also like Kyle, she’s very smart and isn’t afraid to speak her mind. I’ve really enjoyed any episode that she’s in: The List, Raisins, Breast Cancer Show Ever, etc. She was only ever really annoying a few times, and even then she wasn’t that bad
i agree but she is definitely not just the female version of stan please they have totally different personalities
she is@@southshart
I would say more like the female version of Kyle.
Her moral compass makes and the way she treats cartman make me think she's like a female version of Kyle tbh. That makes sense to me bc I feel like Stan would definitely date a female version of of Kyle idk based on looks but personality).
Watching Wendy cry as she photo-shopped and face-tuned her picture in defeat was one of the most depressing endings to an episode of South Park I've ever seen. Compounding the intensity of it, remember that Stan pressured her earlier to photo-shop herself cause she was the only girl who hadn't and her photos embarrassed him since they were dating.
But she also started everything on that episode by photoshopping a girl because of her whole hating Kim Kardashian photoshops deal so she brought it onto herself.
I NEVER knew Wendy was hated? I've always loved her character, she's fairly complex and has one of the most satisfying episodes in the history of the show, she's well written and super funny!
Same. This is news to me
Same here
Same lol. She's my favorite🦆
On God I love Wendy
She has always been hated especially in the 2000s. People made hate pages for her lol
i personally like wendy, i think she adds a lot to the show . also i think it was just pure gold when she beat up cartman .
I never knew people didn't like her, she's a nice character! Of course she has flaws, but everyone in the show does.
Yeah this is certainly a weird way for Johnny to title the video cause its the first I'm hearing of it. Like she will literally still be legendary til the end of time cause she is one of the few characters who has smacked Cartman around.
@aaunyea4799 yeah I like her too and I agree she isn't without flaws no one in South park is perfect
Never knew she wasn’t liked. I always enjoyed her showing up in later seasons. She was smartly written.
Honestly I’m kinda shocked People genuinely hate Wendy!!
I love that Wendy's line after beating Cartmans ass was "I'm finished." Not "I win" or "he's had enough." She knows that shit doesn't matter with Cartman, there's no victory there. But she can have her pound of flesh.
She’s the squidward of South Park, she’s not a bad person or a villain, she’s just a foil to the fun wackiness that goes on, same with squidward, he’s just a guy who wants peace and quiet in his own home & stops the main characters from doing main character stuff.
Squidward literally admit multiple times throughout the series that he's a bad person with a holier than thou complex to his beliefs.
@@Spectre-69 wait when?
I prefer Squidward, let’s not forget he’s not the annoying one. She annoys and takes the fun, and while I don’t dislike her it can get on my nerves
@@wyattcole5452 exactly. I like Squidward because he strikes a good balancing act between the childlike wonder of Spongebob and the more cynical adult world of Squidward.
And Squidwards schemes are usually fun, his deadpan jokes are hilarious, when he gets angry its funny.
Wendy on the other hand is like Stan and Kyle where they're the good characters so they need to spend like 20 minutes in a 30 minute episode saying that the obvious bad thing that cartman is doing is obviously bad and its just like Uh Duuuuuuuh, like my eyes glaze over during the parts where Wendy, Stan, or Kyle go up to Cartman and point at him and are like, "Cartman _insert obvious bad thing here_ is obviously bad." And I'm like Wow really you don't say? Does anyone find those parts funny or enjoyable because during those parts I'm just sitting back on my phone.
Wait people hate Wendy? She's been my favourite since she beat cartman's teeth in and that hasn't changed for me at least 😅
I've always enjoyed her presence since her audition to join their boyband lol
"People" don't. It's just another vtuber creating a strawman and for views.
Like, even on the Top100 list, Johny acts like the list is for hated characters when it literally states Most Hated/Annoying characters.
Wendy is easily amongst the top100 most annoying characters because that's her role. She's meant to be the one that brings things back to reality, who snitches, who brings up real world issues in a comedy show. That's part of the joke.
But Johny also seems to think there's this great plurality of people who identify with Cartman and genuinely believe he's a good guy, so there's that too.
Yea
i used to like her better in the old seasons. i still like her now, but she has some moments that are unlikeable (e.g. trying to force veganism on the menu) but i would still argue she has more good moments than bad
@@babaXIIINah people used to hate her man. Like in the 2010s.
I think what makes Wendy a good counter against Cartman is that she ISN'T the polar opposite to Cartman, a lot of people say this, but I disagree. KYLE is Cartman's opposite, Cartman is often compared to the antichrist, he's the most chaotic, evil, unapologetically selfish character in the show. He's evil, knows he's evil, is open about being evil, and just thinks that's how the world works, and that everyone is out to get him from the get-go and he's simply adjusting to the world around him. He's capable of absolutely tormenting and straight up making other people kill themselves just by a singular conversation with them.
Kyle is basically the opposite ideology pushed to it's extreme. Kyle's known for his "I've learned something today" speeches, he's overly obsessed with bettering, not only himself, but others. Like how Cartman can get the worst out of seemingly innocent people, children and nannies, Kyle can get the absolute best out of literal dictator of Cuba, but Kyle's obsession towards bringing justice sometimes makes him seem even MORE selfish and delusional. Even if a situation has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM, he'll help, not because he wants to do the right thing, not even because he wants glory, he literally just wants to feel as if he's the best guy ever, Ginger Cow delves into his mentality the best. Kyle is the most lawful mf ever, he won't stand for anything that isn't total justice.
Wendy doesn't really give a shit about that, if Cartman is slandering her, she doesn't care, if random Muslim kid is being bullied by Cartman, she doesn't care, if Cartman INSULTS THE CAUSE SHE BELIEVES IN, oh it's game on bitch, and she is willing to be just as manipulative and as deceptive as him to beat him, like in Smurfs episode where he straight up uses Cartman's strategy to demolish HIS reputation, Kyle for instance would NEVER EVER do something like that, instead what he would do is make a poetic speech about being an individual and not trusting everything the media says to the school.
Interesting take. I don't get from Wendy's actions in Dances with Smurfs that she's equal to him in terms of manipulation and deception. I feel like the difference is that Wendy has more of an "the ends justify the means" approach, whereas Kyle doesn't. He'd rather die on his hill alone than win down in the trenches. He'd rather rise above the problems of the world to set an example, which speaks to his egosim. Perhaps because I identify with him, I would argue that he isn't overtly egotistical, he understands that its not all about him cognitively, but he uses the emotional energy of his egoism to charge his batteries, so to speak. Wendy on the other hand really doesn't care who gets the credit, she cares about the result.
This itself is sort of a commentary on how gender roles shape personalities. Society tends to care more about the egos of men, giving men credit and recognition for their work, than it does for women, who largely go uncredited. Even when Wendy genuinely destroys Cartman, she doesn't proclaim herself the victor, she doesn't gloat, she simply says "I'm finished!" and leaves.
I actually think Kyle and Wendy would make a fantastic match. They understand how each other care deeply about the world beyond themselves, and they are both excellent communicators and deeply empathetic individuals. But because Stan is not, nor will ever be, mature enough to get over Wendy, dating her would undoubtedly destroy Kyle's friendship with him, so it can never happen.
Actualmente butters sería lo opuesto a cartman es alguien que siempre ve lo bueno en las personas sin importar quien sean no trata de imponer sus opiniones sobre los demás de hecho es bastante manipulable
She's like the only one female character that has depth in Southpark. Other characters, adults and kids, has absolutely no depth and are NPCs which can be replaced completely with other women in the entire plot. But she's not used for everything like how Randy is, well written character overall.
Hate is a strong word(well, obviously whoring for clicks) but a lot of people tend to be annoyed by 'conscious' female character on their cartoon show that makes them think when they don't want to. Not in a Disney- /PC- fueled way.
i-i agree!
"but Kyle's obsession towards bringing justice sometimes makes him seem even MORE selfish and delusional"
Like that time kyle nuked canada?
Another reason why Wendy is hated is because of the Style Shippers. I have seen in the fandom, both in the English and Latino communities, that they hate Wendy more than anything because of the fact that she interferes with the “romantic” relationship that Stan would have with Kyle, or that she is unfaithful, or as they say According to these people's arguments, Wendy is a “slut or bitch.”
And really, I can understand that fans don't like Wendy because of things like she's too cynical or hypocritical, but hating her on a whim or that it's really stupid to hate her just because she's also Stan's girlfriend; Something that bothers Style Shippers and they detest Wendy to the point of insulting an incredible character like Wendy by calling her the worst possible names.
Wendy may have her moments where she is hypocritical but she is really a good character, she is not a hollow or stupid girl, she has also shown to have concerns towards her friends and has been bullied by her own friends and very hard and sad moments with her that makes you have a lot of empathy for her.
Fr I literally hate toxic style shippers
"Style" shippers? that's a thing? lmao
@@flannelpillowcase6475 style = stan x kyle
It’s cute but doesn’t make that much sense also it stendy (Stan x Wendy) is way more canon and makes more sense then style but if you ship style I respect your opinion lol
Yeah Toxic Style Shippers are the worst people on the south park fandom and the reason why many people left the sp fandom and they act like Style is Healthy but it's not Because Kyle and Stan fought on numerous times, Stan didn't Save Kyle when the other boys was bulling Kyle and proceed to Beat the heck out of Kyle,Kyle hired a Hitman intend to Kill Stan and Stan points a gun at Kyle and always get angry at Wendy when She "Interrupted Stan and Kyle" bruh bruh bruh bruh bruh Stan Have Wendy and Tbh in my opinion Stan and Kyle are Super Best friends They hang out because They're Best Friends You Toxic Style Shippers that what Best Friends do, They Hang out and Leave Wendy Alone She didn't nothing to y'all Toxic Style Shippers. also tbh Guys There Some Style Shippers who Nice and I'm actually friends with Nice Style Shippers.
@@zaquarviousgaffney367 FINALLY SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS STYLE WOUDLNT WORK OUT
I think the only time Wendy got on my nerves was in the Facebook episode, when both she and Randy kept harassing and pressuring Stan over every little thing he did on his account. I just can’t stand the trope of the overly critical girlfriend who expects her guy to bow to her every whim or else risk facing a tantrum.
She’s actually one of my favorites I’ve always liked how she stands up for what she believes in and doesn’t compromise what she believes in and the one time she did where she photoshopped herself to be “pretty” the show treated it like it was a huge deal I think she’s handled with class and maturity and the show would be missing a lot without her
She’s a bad B, love her, she’s everything
She's a loser
@KoraTheBot-rh5pk yeah, I like those moments too. nobody is perfect and she's still vulnerable to the same trappings as others.
man wouldn't it be lame if she was perfect and always right? like a Mary Sue or something, I sure would hate having those in my media.
@janefkrbtt right. Wendy is all of the things you said WHILE also being a tween girl. You can be a good strong person and still fall into a fashion trend. I think that's why people hate Wendy; they struggle with seeing women, especially young girls, and multifaceted people.
Same
Honestly, wendy is a textbook dictionary example of the word "misunderstood".
Not by the writing put into her character by the writers/creators themselves, but by the reputation given by the fandom itself
I'm honestly still disappointed that the Gender Wars never got any proper conclusion. After Trey and Matt rewrote "Oh Jeez" they could've used the next seasons to end the arc instead but rather they just said "fuck it".
She launched a lesbian into the sun
as a lesbian i forgive her
Based
Well that's why she's my favourite character.
@@econharvest if you saying that to be homophobic she likes girls bye
God forbid women do anything
it’s the same thing as the walter white effect. people don’t think that cartman is the villain despite obviously being a monster and looking through the show through that lens, wendy is his foil, a lot like skyler and people see someone going against the “hero” and turn on them due to that
I’m in the minority that Matt and Trey broke Cartman with “Scott Tenorman Must Die”. They crossed a line info making him a cold-blooded psychopath and I think fans just don’t want the “respect my authoritah!” walking id to be actually evil.
I was looking for this comment because I totally agree, the nagging voice of reason can come off as annoying even if she’s 100% in the right
People clearly think Cartman is the villian. In what world do you live in where you think most people dont think he is a bad person?
Skylar is a genuinely bad person unlike Wendy, it is not the same lol
I think some people forget about the concept of the villain protagonist, a slot I think Cartman fits into. Yeah, the show has occasionally given possible reasons for why he is how he is, such as permissive parenting and a lack of a strong father figure, but most times there is no reason why Cartman is this way. He's just a pathetic a*s-hole because he wants to be. The show never treats Cartman like he's right about anything he says and viewers who understand thar DON'T like Cartman because he's right or a hero. They like him because he's funny.
I've always loved Wendy
But another thing to mention about this is that another reason people don't like her is because she interferes with the ships in a fandom. It's why in quite a bit of fan content she is painted as a villain (which in turn stems from moments in the show that are blown out of proportion.
I think people tend to forget that she is...yknow 10 years old. She may be opinionated and have her beliefs, but she is also learning about life as she goes as well
Right
Well said. So creepy people ‘shipping’ 10 year olds.
@@Craig_Tucker48i guess matt and trey must be creepy then
no fr like im such a style fan but that will never make me hate or demonize her for “getting in the way” she’s one of my favorite characters ever!!!!!
What the fuck do you mean she “interferes with shipping and the fandom doesn’t like her”
Does the South Park community actually believe that
If so I have lost a lot of respect for the South Park community
"the homossexual is right" is a sentence that will never not be funny.
People hate Wendy???
That doesn't sparkle with me!
Maybe it's my logic-centric mindset, but I've always enjoyed the "voice of reason" characters. For as zany of situations Cartman and the boys get into, Wendy acts as the perfect antithesis of the chaos, but still with the childhood lens. But what makes her great is that she's still imperfect and immature in her own opinions too.
There's nothing wrong with a logic centric mindset. The whole point of the show is to demonstrate that the human world at large doesn't care about logic, and that this flaw is their singular undoing.
"Voice of reason" characters tend to be characters I really like too. Kyle and Wendy are among my favorite characters in SP and Lisa is my favorite from the Simpsons. To me, chaotic and obviously wrong characters like Cartman wouldn't be as fun to watch if there wasn't someone to oppose them, which is what Kyle and Wendy do perfectly, just in different ways.
@@calmsunshine511 i remember hearing on a video that when rugrats added suzie they said that her character was created for the same reason that wendy was made for south park which was to be a foil for angelica since to them the best foil for a bully character was to have them be forced to interact with a sweet natured voice of reason character who couldnt be bullied because they dont fall for the bullys trocks.
Thesis and antithesis, which in turn create synthethis
A rundown from someone who watched the show from her early teen years and who liked Wendy:
1. Her and Stan's relationship got a lot less fun to watch over time (and she fell into the background for a while because of it).
2. People preferred her back when she was "shy".
3. Some Cartman apologists do not like her humbling him and for a show filled with people doing terrible things, they don't like it when the girls act the same as the boys.
4. She has wonderful episodes like "Stupid Spoiled Whore" where she's passionate about the issues she believes in but other times, she's usually told off for going to far by another character.
Don't know if that all tracks but something I've noticed.
Isn't it usually Cartman that tells her off though?
@@buttscarlton1490 You're right, he does do most of it
I would argue her character is inconsistent at times, like when she sent the substitute teacher to her death or when she gave in to peer pressure and photoshopped her pics at the end of the episode. and they never went anywhere with it. in the next episode her character was back where it was before. I'd say she evolves the least out of most of the main kids. even token and craig got more significant longterm character development than her
@@frankunodostres473sub teacher thing was in the super early seasons, lots of stuff from then wasn’t kept. And where exactly did you want the peer pressure thing to go? The show wasn’t doing overarching plots yet.
@@DogsandPennies
While yes, that behavior was the early seasons, there was a lot of it. The breast Augmentation due to being jealous of Bebe was late season 6. While still earlier, it shows that her character archetype early on persisted for a long time. While I agree that the biggest issue is racist / sexist / generally bigoted people who are Cartman apolgoists having a problem with someone (especially a woman) telling them off, I do believe that some people who watched the show way back then could still have a sour taste in their mouths due to her in the early seasons, especially with the inconsistency we see form her in the later seasons.
Isn't it obvious? She's South Park's Lisa Simpson.
But i despise Lisa Simpson more than
I don't think that's a fair comparison, Lisa has become more and more hypocritical the more the show continued, while Wendy never comprimieses any of her beliefs.
@@dragondelsur5156wendy killed a lesbian teacher because she was jealous. She trying to act moral and teach cartman anything doesnt make sense when she is a killer herself and over a petty reason
@@greinavidimexr6859we do not care 🥱🥱
I like the fact she’s a representation of first wave feminism as she actively opposed Paris Hilton being a role model for young women which definitely is going against what a lot of what feminists believe today.
I'm not sure what you mean in the second half of the statement, Parris Hilton isn't a notable feminist and I'm guessing most feminists of the modern day would agree with her.
@@DavidRamirez-se2yt feminists today praise women on onlyfans. Wendy clearly would call them bad role models
Man I don't think you know what first wave feminism is, you could maybe make the argument that she is representative of 2nd or 3rd wave feminism, but 1st wave feminism was explicitly racist and exclusionary to anyone who wasn't a well off, married white woman. Arguably even modern conservatives are more progressive than first wave feminists.
@@DavidRamirez-se2ytthere's a lot of people who actually see Paris as a feminist icon. Even today.
Wouldn't Wendy be a 3rd wave feminist? I may be wrong but I think her deep political activism had some aspects of intersectionality.
And she definitely internalised 2nd wave feminism completely with her insistence on equal representation and recognition.
At least going by the feminist history I was taught in University
I don't usually pull the "They only hate her because she's a girl", but it honestly 100% feels that way with Wendy. Even still, I was quite shocked to see her on that list
no one hates Wendy.
First i ever heard anyone claim this.
@@isleofdixon255did you see that list of most hated characters of all time???
No, it’s the same reason people don’t like Kyle, it’s the cartman show - voice of reason characters are anti cartman. It’s not that deep, go touch grass you weirdo.
@@Waawaaweewaa_it's more one the same level of hate that people have for lisa simpson or hailey or literally any cartoon girl hyper feminist.
@@Waawaaweewaa_ sorry I upset you that much over talking about a cartoon character I guess?
Wendy getting the pep talk from principal Victoria and then beating up cartman is a moment that I think many fans envy. Like goddamn, do I wish I could have joined her.
Did you know that even though both characters have been in the show since the beginning of the show, the season 22 episode “The Scoots” is the first episode to have an interaction between Wendy and Kenny
As some who loves Cartman but can see that he is 1000% a monster. I really enjoy when he gets his comeuppance. And Wendy beating him up for making fun of Breast cancer was the most cathartic thing ever put to television
I always loved Wendy. She's one of the best characters. I love how south park makes it so that every point she ever makes is rational, well thought out, and perfectly presented, and then have the characters react as if she's just spouting nonsense - a perfect satire of both misogyny and of how society responds to criticisms; if you make your point poorly, your point is attacked, but if you make your point well, you're simply dismissed and no attempt to refute it is made. You're just treated as though you never made a good point.
Im a fan of cartman, but wendy is good. The only time ive genuinely agreed with cartman in hating wendy is when she complains to the school and gets the meals changed to eco-friendly plant based shit. As petty as it is, i got actually mad during that. A man just wants his barbecue ribs.
All that aside, wendy is chill, passes the vibe check
Criticism has been here for years, and when it does happen... you will get blocked or ignored, even if you mean well. It shows they didn't wanna learn at all, like most people on this planet.
She's certainly more likable than Lisa Simpson
Less
I dont get the lisa hate in the good seasons at least
That's not a high bar to clear. As Ned Flanders once said, her only purpose is to serve as "an answer to a question no one asked."
@@Joemama55122 Me neither
The title took me by surprise! I honestly just have seen the general later seasons of SP but I love Wendy and was surprised to hear she has so much hate, amazing video and your friend did such a stellar job writing it
I didn't know people *hated* her, I've always liked her a lot
cartman fanboys
@@jytvreal simp
@@cat86653 No i'm team cartman
*South Park fangirls walk in* "Allow me to introduce myself!"
This is literally the first I've heard of ANYONE hating Wendy.
Same
cartman
We mean in the fandom
Considering the comment section, I'm starting to think that people don't hate her. I'm starting to think the people who voted her on that list, were more of the mindset that they personally love her, but the characters in the show find her annoying.
Wow that's crazy, I've seen the Wendy hatred for years, especially in fandom spaces. I love both Style and Stendy but a lot of style shippers have always resented her for simply being Stan's gf.
“All gender identities”
There are only two 😂
I think Wendy is at the center of some of the show's all time best episodes: Raisins, the list, breast cancer show ever, follow that egg... she's not the best but I think she helps create some really interesting conflict, mostly with Stan (the GOAT)
I loved her so much in Dancing with Smurfs. The resolution was so graceful and subverting, giving Cartman everything he acted like he wanted, admission of fault and position of power, and makes it obvious that it's absolutely not what Cartman wants. He just wants an enemy to be angry against, and she just took that away from him XD
Cartman gets pleasure from getting a reaction from people the exact same thing you mentioned happens with Cartman annoying Kyle about how he was right and won a bet of 20 dollars and turned the 20 dollar bill into 1 dollar bills so he could swim in it then turned the 20 dollar bills into quarters to do it again but Kyle then congratulated Cartman and Cartman blew up at him for ruining his fun
@@dynamicender Exactly! He doesn't want to win, he just wants to fight against someone who won't shut him down XD
I didn't realize other fans hated Wendy. I always thought she was cool. But man, I love your south park videos. Can we expect a Chef analysis episode sometime in the future?
Check out the one made by Kitty Monk, it's really well put together.
i second watching the kittymonk video, she’s greatz
Nah im with you it's gotta be a loud minority
Chef is a sad analysis though considering the fate of his VA… 😢
Edit: I cried watching the Kittymonk video.
@@princesspikachu3915 brainwashed by the sci-fi cult
The show frames the boys as the protagonists and all the plots revolve around them. Wendy is either not present in an episode, or she is there just to be an obstacle the boys have to overcome to move the story forward or she is directly the antagonist in total opposition to them. It's not hard to understand why people don't like her because when you empathize when the protagonists all the time, you see her as a villain of sorts.
She's basically Lisa Simpson. Full of herself, high on her own self-righteousness even when her hypocrisy is showing, and feels COMPELLED to interfere or intervene in anything she possibly can, while also portrayed as the smartest person in the room.
But it's where she is different from Lisa that makes her more hated. Lisa actually has interests, hobby, and a personality beyond just being the annoying nagger. Lisa is also given her own episodes and acts as a protagonist as well rather than solely as an antagonist and because she is framed as the protagonist and the story is from her perspective, it's easier to get behind her and root for her even when she does similar things to Wendy because you're supposed to side with her. Wendy on the other hand is always an obstacle or antagonist. Maybe there has been one or two episodes over the almost 30 years of South Park where she was genuinely helpful or part of the team, but its extremely rare.
In an era, where rationality and honor have faded into obscurity, Eric Cartman has emerged as a beacon of truth. This assertion might appear paradoxical given Cartman’s often outrageous behavior and beliefs. However, I would argue that Cartman serves as a countermeasure to a society that has chosen to overlook the harsher aspects of reality.
Cartman is frequently cast in the role of “the buffoon,” a character archetype that traditionally highlights uncomfortable truths through humor and satire. He is also often backed into the corner and forced into the role of “the bad guy,” not because he embodies evil, but because he refuses to truly believe in, and conform to, the absurdities of the world around him. His non-conformity, while leading to societal scorn, allows him to persistently articulate and highlight truths that are often overlooked, through a veneer of cartoonish exaggeration and childlike innocence.
One of Cartman’s key roles in the narrative is to expose the realities of human nature that other characters would rather ignore. These uncomfortable and challenging aspects of our existence are brought to the forefront by Cartman’s actions and words. The other characters are then forced to either acknowledge these truths or choose to ignore and disregard them to maintain their own fragile worldviews.
Cartman also manipulates societal constructs to his advantage, thereby highlighting their inherent absurdity and unfairness. This manipulation is not just a testament to Cartman’s cunning and intelligence, but also a critique of the unfairness of the societal conventions that allow such manipulation to occur.
In a society that prioritizes appearance over authenticity, Cartman stands out as a figure unafraid to reveal the world’s true nature. He is a wolf, feared and misunderstood. Society has molded Cartman into a predator simply because he aligns with truth and reason, the very things that his era rejects and distorts outright. In a more honest and just era, Cartman could have been celebrated for his talents rather than scorned. Cartman’s potential for greatness, and the refusal to acknowledge this potential, the fault of a society that fails to nurture such potential. It’s a poignant reminder of how societal norms and values can shape our destinies. Cartman is defined by one thing. Truth. And he's become the buffoon, villain, the heretic, the madman, of his era, simply for that alone.
I had no idea wendy had hate. I've always loved her. Maybe cause I'm a girl LOL😂
I'm not a girl and I also always loved her and I am just as confused as you are about why she receives hate.
@@thirdpedalnirvanato me shes just not that funny
Not supposed to be mate, she's a device put in there to accompany the main characters. Not every character in a comedy needs to be hilarious, some characters are devices to allow the main characters to thrive. @@painanmutsiis7236
lol im a girl and cartman is *cool*
I was personally really surprised to see the title, not only have I never heard of people not liking Wendy, but also she seemed like of all the characters one of the hardest to hate to me, before watching the video I honestly couldn't think of a reason why people wouldn't like her. Very interesting video, thanks!
Most of the hate I have seen on Wendy is in the fandom, shippers that hate that she’s in the way of their gay ship of Stan x Kyle. It has been a few years since I saw it. And personally I just think Wendy is ok
Wait, who hates Wendy? She’s great lmao
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My only issue with wendy is that she decided to break up with stan over the online trolling and harassment that kyle's dad did (to which they didn't know it was him and still don't). I get that what wendy and the rest of the girls did was reminiscent of that Greek play you mentioned I still think it's dumb they dumped all the boys for what one adult male did to everyone. The idea of punishment for all because of one person just rubs me the wrong way.
It was mostly peer pressure. You can read from her note that she’s regretful and it really matches her personality
they didn’t know it was even kyle’s dad at the time they thought it was cartman or another one of the boys so it makes sense. she’s a feminist, she values girlhood over dumb relationships
I don’t blame her. I’m familiar with a lot of radical feminist theory and in some circles of radical feminism, women encourage each other to practice “male exclusion” practices within their lives. Centering female friendships, relationship, and professionals rather than males. I dont blame them. Even in my life as a medium-attractive woman I’ve dealt with countless occasions of mistreatment by men. Trolling, verbal, sexual, and physical harassment, blatant misogyny, etc. In her position, seeing a woman with breast cancer being bullied into suicide by a male within their community, combined with peer pressure, is reason enough to, in a way, “boycott” male relationships.
And what good does boycotting male relationships do for the men that don't do/never did the heinous things that have been put upon women including you? What good does shutting out all men do other then create loneliness on both sides or even make men not want to date women completely and be single until death when women decide to stop being misandrists over what a small bad batch had done to them?
Radical feminism is killing our ability to work together as people and sustain a relationship in any form. I get that there are men who act like POSs, and those that are such do deserve to be boycotted or be reminded to not be a POS. But let's not forget women are just as guilty of being POSs towards men by doing the very Trolling, verbal, sexual, and physical harassment, etc. and even pushing blatant misandry. Amber Heard is an example of a woman who was abusive both physically and verbally towards Johnny Depp. There are other women out there who are just like her.
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@@dh.151 Brb, gonna go boycott all my black friends because a black person in my community killed a white person in a robbery. It always surprises me the length to which people will go to excuse full on misandry. No, it's not "reason enough", please get a grip.
Wendy has always been one of my favorite characters in South Park. She’s hands down one of the most complex characters as well. There were always good choices in her development from intellectual to emotional. 💖💜
Please don't put words in my mouth. I ADORE Wendy Testaburger. We honestly need more of her.
"please don't put words in my mouth." why is that the way you chose to say this? do you think the youtube video title was talking about you specifically?
@@xkronos815 so true.
Who the fuck are you lol
@@xkronos815 So who IS the video talking about?
He isn't talking about you specifically, so how can he put words in your mouth...?
Wendy had soapbox qualities at time. Kinda like Lisa Simpson. Both characters are pretty polarizing.
Being preached to is simply annoying, even when I agree with Stan I’m still like “alright you’ve gotten far too self indulgent today” sometimes
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat that seems like a good way to explain it.
I think there's another big reason why some fans don't like Wendy.
She ruins there ships. I've seen quite a lot of people in the fandom hate on her because it confirms that Stan x Kyle isn't cannon or whatever.
Personally, she's one of my favourite characters in the show, she has her flaws of course, but I think she's one of the best depictions of a feminist in media as a whole.
Wendy is one of my favorite characters on the show! The episode where she beats up Cartman for mocking Breast Cancer was one of her best moments! She’s a good girlfriend to Stan and she always stands up for what she believes in.
Well, in the "You have 0 friends" episode she got pissed at Stan for petty shit, like the fact that his profile stated he was single (to be fair, if you are in a relationship and it's not a secret, I see why you would want your partner to have the status as in a relationship and Wendy is young, but she didn't let him explain himself, his friends made the profile for him and he didn't know about the status) and that another girl commented he was cute in a bunny suit and he thanked her. Granted, she is nice in most episodes and all South Park characters acted like assholes on occasion.
Oh yeah, sometimes their relationship has double standards where Stan is in the wrong.
I don't! Her beating the hell out of Cartman is one of My favorite moments! She's iconic
A kindred soul, I see.
Same, but I don’t hate cartman I think he’s funny like obviously I’m not a fan of his actions but tbh he’s like one of those characters you hate but also like
That episode gives me chills along with Kenny dressing as mysterion for his sister and butters speech after getting dumped
@@Tweekerss_678Yeah, he's one of those characters thats fun to watch but terrible to be around irl
@@TigerFucker know many people irl who have fed their stepbrother his parents?
Wendy has normally always been on the right side when it comes to calling out the bs that cart man is doing. Normally she actually makes good points over issues and feminism in the modern episodes. While then also she absolutely beat the fuck out of cart man and he deserved every second of that beat down.
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"Why don't people like her? She's ALWAYS right!!"
Wooow, no way!? Most people dislike smarmy know-it-alls?
Wendy is a great character. She adds badly needed nuance to the story that far too often falls on the perspective of the immaturity of the boys.
I've always liked Wendy, whether it's her positive or negative portrayals, she's always so interesting.
Token* I'm not being gas-lit by Matt and Trey.
but u r being BORING
Wendy is my second favorite character in the entire show, only slightly behind Kyle. I never knew there were fans that hated her. Makes me sad to hear. The episode where she beats up Cartman for making fun of Breast Cancer is to this day still one of my favorites.
Wendy is one of the best characters! She’s been underutilized recently but new episodes with her is always a welcomed surprise
Being one who has seen everything SP has given us, I always loved Wendy, especially as her character has evolved in the South Park Universe.
Great content Johnny!
I like her in the earlier seasons, because she was a lot more sweet but the more she treated Stan like he was always out to do something wrong to her, in any sort of way, was when I just stopped liking her all together.
I didn't realize Wendy was hated honestly.
Her standing up for what she believes in and in many occasions refusing to turn her back on her beliefs is really good shit and the show would definitely be lacking something if she was absent. She's also super well written and has had a lot of development over the years. Plus it's nice how she can often be a voice of reason amidst the chaos of South Park, without being present as flawless individual.
Also she kicked Cartman's ass, so that's an instant W right there.
Because she's a toxic girlfriend who expects her boyfriend to bow to her every demand or face a temper tantrum.
I love Wendy’s character, she shows how she’s passionate on the subjects that matter to her. Her personality is amazing too.
I didn’t know fans hate Wendy, I’ve always liked her a lot.
Wendy Haters, Cartman Fanboys and Toxic Style Shippers hate Wendy🙄🙄🙄🙄
i like her character but sometimes she annoys me with her vulnerability to fall into peer pressure and group think and her lack of independent thought.
It's almost like she's a realistically written character with personality flaws
She's not supposed to be perfect, though, and peer pressure is one of her intentional flaws.
@@dragondelsur5156 in the earlier seasons she was better like standing on the side to change the south park flag because it was racist, even when most of the town didn't want it changed or didnt care. her strength used to be that she had courage to stand against the popular opinion, and her flaw used to be anger issues.
Very small tangent. But I've always liked how mister slave, Despite being the biggest degenerate around, is actually one of the healthiest most mature calm and collected adults in south park and his advice is always fucking spot on.
Him and big gay al were the only reasonable adults.
Wendy being hated is such a surprise to me. She legitimately seems like the most random character for fans to hate, honestly. Like, at least people who don’t like Randy I can kinda see where they’re coming from. He’s almost completely taken over the show and I can imagine people tuning in specifically to watch the kid stuff would get annoyed by that. But Wendy? She doesn’t even really feel like she has a significant enough role for people to hate her in the first place.
Seriously tho, I think that she’s a really interesting character. Would be cool to see her used more often
It's simple really. The world is made of Cartmans.
@@genera1013um no
How about this
Not everyone takes the show seriously and just cares about the show being funny and entertaining.
Wendy often stops the funny and just makes the show less enjoyable because she interferes with plots that are funny or entertaining.
This was made by a Kenny fan btw
@@Guyinachair5768 If you cared about the show being funny you'd want MORE Wendy. Best character
@@ferretappreciator chat is this the worst take in the world
@@Guyinachair5768 if youre watching a show with a lot of messages and satire and expect it to be just funny jokes then just watch watch family guy
My earliest memories of Wendy hate are reading comments from Stan/Kyle shippers in DeviantArt back in the 2000s.
Seriously, the fact that the shipper hate is still going on today makes me wish that Sarcastic Chorus would call it out if he ever covers South Park ships someday.
EDIT: And you know what's really ridiculous about the whole "Wendy is to blame for getting in the way of Style" argument? *BOTH* Stendy and Style got fucked over over time, as the recent seasons put an ever-increasing focus on Randy, Cartman, Butters, PC Principal and Garrison, and not enough focus on them. It's real easy to feel less invested in both ships from that, especially since recent episodes like "Cupid Ye" and "Deep Learning" portrayed them in a negative light. (Yet somehow it's like the shippers are still stuck on Season 15 and never moved on since then.)
No, Wendy is not to blame for getting in the way of Style. *Randy, Cartman, Butters, PC Principal and Garrison are to blame for getting in the way of Style and Stendy's screentime.*
Maybe people shouldn't ship children characters lmao
I had no idea she was hated-
Hey Johnny!
I became a fan towards the start of your Bojack videos, and I must say I really appreciate the work you put in them.
I started to write a blog on videogames some time ago, and hunting for relevant pictures has given me a new perspective on just how much work it is to hunt for relevant pictures for each topic. Aside from getting good clups, you do a ridiculous amount of research for every video, and that makes them worthwhile.
Anyway, I really enjoy your videos, thanks for making them!
Honestly Wendy never ever bothered me I even think her and Stan have a great character dynamic together
I personally dont hate Wendy. I do find her to be a bit of a hypocrite though. For example, the hobbit episode. She had an issue with Butters calling Lisa fat and ugly but she called her fat and ugly herself. She also could have hated on Kim Kardashian for anything but instead went after her looks. She was basically like "It's bad for guys to talk bad about women but I can talk bad about women." That did make her come off as a hater because the whole episode all she does is go for people looks yet say its wrong when the boys do it. I did enjoy the episode but I feel like it shows the hypocrisy of Wendy.
I don’t hate Wendy I hate butters dad for grounding butters
I never knew she was hated? She seems to be fine character, and fighted to defend herself and others. That's a admirable trait to have tbh!
I had no idea people hated Wendy, she’s by far one of the best characters in the show
Wendy is actually my favorite South Park Character with Kenny as a close 2nd
Wendy: WHY ARE YOU THROWING UP EVERYTIME U SEE MEE ?! WHAT DO I DISGUST YOU? stan: . . .
Wendy’s progression as a character has caused the downfall.
Never heard a person gripe over her character even a little bit. Shes a great character same as the rest
First time i have ever heard of people hating Wendy. Matt and Trey talking about her beating cartman up is great to listen too. She is amazing South Park the Fracture but Whole, she is always on my team in that game. Would like more Wendy tbh, feel like she hasn't been in it as much. Some of the best episodes are with her. She seems to be one of the smartest characters in south park, and i include the adults in that.
This may just be me, but I have felt for a bit that it would help spice things up if Wendy was part of the main cast. Just that she'd be able to tell some more that the 4 boys + Randy wouldn't be able to.
Or maybe she's just annoying ?
Wendy is the best 💕 I really enjoyed her in TFBW as Call Girl, really useful in battle with all her Defense Downs and also a slow and having high health. Not to mention her powers are all perfectly fitting for her, and just reaffirms how smart she is!
One of my favourite South Park characters ever since I started watching nearly 15 years ago. She is not prominent very often, a shame. But I'm certainly aware that a vocal minority in the fandom hate her. Those haters are often big Cartman fans. A character I actually dislike (don't get me wrong, I totally get how important Cartman is for South Park, just wish he would get his comeuppance more often).
The main problem with Wendy is because she’s often a substitute for all the main boys. While on top of that now a days , they don’t let her actually be wrong.
Which is likely why some see her as a feminist Buzzkill, if they gave her her own real female equivalent of the boys gang she would be seen as less jarring of a character.
Sheila Browlowski is ranked 48th on that list of most hated characters.
I didn’t know Fans of South Park hated Wendy
Wendy is definitely in my top 5 favourite characters, at LEAST
I feel like this is coming at it from a bias perspective. South Park has never been shy of making characters be both right and wrong and I would say Wendy about an even mix of both. She has been wrong MANY times. Take for example when she fought to have the school menu changed. She didn't ask for an option to get the food she and the other girls wanted, she had them change the whole menu preventing anyone who didn't want that from having the option of getting the old food they preferred. When challenged on this she didn't say "oh I see your point let me change the request I made. Instead she doubled down thinking she had the right to dictate what others had the option of eating, only for it to be revealed at the end the fake meat she replaced their original food for was just a crappy for them as the old food was.
There are plenty of other examples of this. People typically don't like her because shes arrogant and think her perspective on things is flawless. Even in cases where shes technically right she approaches it with such a superiority complex and is often times show to be hypocritcal when she only applies her standards one way. Another example. The episode where she crusades against image filtering on online media. Yes she technically right in that people in general should worry about their appearence to that degree but she only brings up the idealized female body and how it affects the self image of girls, never once addressing the opposite side of that coin, the idealized male body, rippling with muscles, and six pack abs and biceps the size of the head.
That Wendy's biggest flaw and the source of why she is a good character, for everything shes right about shes also wrong about something, often because her arrogance and self-righteousness blinds her from perspectives other than her own. In a way shes actually like an opposite extreme of Cartmen. They are both largely about self gratification but where as Cartman just openly selfish, manipulative, and assholish about doing so, Wendy wraps hers up in appearing virtuous and morally superior. True some of it might be coming from a good place but there are many examples of her simply having a "I know whats better for you than you do approach"
I never cared for Wendy much until that one episode where she BEAT the absolute shit out of Cartman, that single-handedly made her a great character
My gripe with her is that she’s basically Cartman, if you’re not with her you’re against her.
she is NOT basically cartman
God the phrase “if you’re not with me you’re against me” is so gross
That's selling her shorter than the obvious sociopath of South Park, Colorado.
Finally a Wendy video!! I absolutely LOVE her, she’s definitely got “feminine rage” down at such an early age(unfortunately) but I think that’s why I relate to her so much!!
This past Halloween my bf and I went as Stan and Wendy😂
Do it again for next Halloween but as Toolshed and Call Girl
Yeah like many other commenters I didn’t realise Wendy was hated. I remember seeing her win a poll of toughest South Park character lol.
I simply do not comprehend that people hate my comfort character. she is a girlboss. The female rep that was written well. I love her forever
Idk a single fan of the show who hates Wendy lol she’s basically the only girl character in the show who appears regularly pretty much just her bebe and red for 99% of the show when they have girls in an episode
I’m always surprised that she’s not really close friends with Kyle, I know she’s not close with any of the boys outside of Stan, but I always figured they’d at least be friends, but then again I can also imagine Kyle not wanting to be friends with her cause Stan might get jealous again.
Who hates Wendy?
I think that one part of what you said is mostly the reason for everything, she is the main staying woman character of the show, and so she embodied a lot of the good and the bad caricatures, whereas the boys do not always embody many of them. If Wendy's bad traits were divided in different characters like it was the case as more female characters got the spotlight, I think she would be more bearable.
Wendy used to embody every kind of stuff we can hate in a woman and in relation with them. And for a lone character, it was too much to bear.
One second she is smart, and then in another episode she can go woke and overly agressive and it's that kind of lack of real ground that can make her feel be a nemesis for many fans. Since the demographics of the show is mostly men, I think many of us can see bad memories or what we hate in women in Wendy.
I am kind of surprised that she has so much hate, because even if I hate her bad traits, I definitely like when she is right and outdoes the others in a good way.
I also think your last statement is right, she is shown as an activist and she is very smart, so personally, I do feel hurt whenever she has some bad double standards and becomes what she tries to fight against.
I have higher standards to her because she is proved to be right and smarter so many of the times. In opposition to this, Kyle and Stan are not known to be the smartest boys, Cartman definitely is and we know Cartman is all about him. Since Kyle never backs down from fighting Cartman, and is shown to be prone to anger and outbursts, whenever his actions have him turning like his mother slowly and slowly, I see that as something that HAS to happen, because Cartman is playing him constantly and because Kyle knows his mother can be bad, so it is ironical. Stan is a good kid with flaws, and he feels like the most grounded/average kid to me, he isn't special. Wendy is shown to be higher.
Heidi becoming like Cartman was also progressive so I never hated Heidi for becoming what she was literally eating, she ate meat when she did not want to, and she was eating a piece of Cartman each day they passed together. Heidi's fall was something I could believe happening. And I think many Cartman's stans will hate Heidi as much as Wendy.