MARTIN HAMMOND***** is my favourite prose translation of the Iliad! I consistently call him Richmond Hammond because Richmond LATTIMORE has my favourite poetry translation of the Iliad ... I also do call Richmond Lattimore Martin sometimes, too. Don't mind me. BUT, the surnames are always correct I promise.
Also!!! I created a list for you guys of all the books I could find about the Ancient Greek & Roman world :) Overtime I'll be updating this (and adding sections for Egypt, the Near East, Mesoamerica etc), so check it out via this link www.moaninc.co.uk/books/the-ultimate-classics-book-list
As a newbie to Ancient Greek mythology who just discovered your channel, thank you so much for this video. It is greatly appreciated! I look forward to binge watching the rest of your videos and can’t wait for new ones to come! 💖💖
For those who want the Iliad and Odyssey, barnes and nobles has a very nice leather bound edition of the two combined. You'll roughly pay almost double the price but it's 100% worth it. The barnes and nobles edition is in prose, which I prefer because I really do not care about verse and more over I do not care about verse translated from an ancient version of a language in to a completely different modern language. Prose makes it easier to read as just a story.
Ovid's Metamorphoses is another great work, somewhat like Apollodorus, but still very different; and in my opinion much better. It recounts all the important stuff from the creation of the universe to the beginnings of Rome, with a bunch of otherwise little known myths.
I love the Metamorphoses, but I tried to stick to GREEK books in this video to avoid confusion about source material! But I 1000% agree that it’s magnificent, AND there’s a new translation of Ovid by Stephanie McCarter which just came out!
Pretty pretty please, I am begging, do NOT read Ovid. Ovid was the Andrew Tate of Ancient Rome. He wrote a literal in the modern sense of the phrase pick-up artist book about how to manipulate women into sex that included a LOT of really messed up advice even for the time. His misogyny translates directly into Metamorphoses as his versions of basically every single myth somehow managed to out-woman-hate even the Athenians.
It makes me sad that people might sigh about having to read The Iliad and Odyssey.. I did, for decades.. but so glad I eventually did. Anyway, knowing nothing about such things (but I am trying to learn more) I will say that the Emily Wilson translation of the Odyssey really got into the book. Anyway, I have ordered the Homeric hymns to read next, after Jason and the Golden Fleece. Thank you for your recommendations
Hi I just found your channel and I am so glad that I did! I will be doing a solo trip to Europe this summer with Greece being one of my stops for 3 weeks. :) I'm super stoked and am definitely going to try to read more the books you recommended!
Could you do a video on your opinion of primary text translations? Like what are the pros and cons of a specific translation? What was the translators purpose in their methodology? Which translations are deemed as out of date or maybe leas academically valued? Iv spent a lot more time on the Platonic and Aristotelian corpuses and when i read the notes on translation from different translators its kind of funny to see them call each other out. Im not nearly as familiar with the various translations of the Iliad and Odyssey so id like to hear an expert opinion
Read both Illiad and the odyssey when I was 15, seems like a million years ago... great to just fall into and have it be an immersive experience. Need to get Stephen Fry's new ones.
Hi Erica, thank you for your videos. They are inspirational! May I please request to cover Ancient Greek plays as well? (Oedipus Rex, Antigone, etc). It would be helpful if you could also suggest the best translations of these works to buy for someone who has no knowledge of the Ancient Greek language.
Unwittingly bought the Chapman translation of The Illiad and struggled through it Was a couple of hundred pages in before I realised there were easier translations Read the T.S Lawrence translation of The Odyssey which isn't in verse but easy to read and very enjoyable
I love how arrogant Apollodoros is it has the following not ungraceful epigram: 'Draw your knowledge of the past from me and read the ancient tales of learned lore. Look neither at the page of Homer, nor of elegy, nor tragic muse, nor epic strain. Seek not the vaunted verse of the cycle; but look in me and you will find in me all that the world contains'.
MARTIN HAMMOND***** is my favourite prose translation of the Iliad! I consistently call him Richmond Hammond because Richmond LATTIMORE has my favourite poetry translation of the Iliad ... I also do call Richmond Lattimore Martin sometimes, too. Don't mind me. BUT, the surnames are always correct I promise.
Also!!! I created a list for you guys of all the books I could find about the Ancient Greek & Roman world :) Overtime I'll be updating this (and adding sections for Egypt, the Near East, Mesoamerica etc), so check it out via this link www.moaninc.co.uk/books/the-ultimate-classics-book-list
Erica, your enthusiasm in videos is infectious!
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As a newbie to Ancient Greek mythology who just discovered your channel, thank you so much for this video. It is greatly appreciated! I look forward to binge watching the rest of your videos and can’t wait for new ones to come! 💖💖
Thank you for watching!!! 🖤
For those who want the Iliad and Odyssey, barnes and nobles has a very nice leather bound edition of the two combined. You'll roughly pay almost double the price but it's 100% worth it. The barnes and nobles edition is in prose, which I prefer because I really do not care about verse and more over I do not care about verse translated from an ancient version of a language in to a completely different modern language. Prose makes it easier to read as just a story.
Glad RUclips recommended me your channel!!!
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Ovid's Metamorphoses is another great work, somewhat like Apollodorus, but still very different; and in my opinion much better. It recounts all the important stuff from the creation of the universe to the beginnings of Rome, with a bunch of otherwise little known myths.
I love the Metamorphoses, but I tried to stick to GREEK books in this video to avoid confusion about source material! But I 1000% agree that it’s magnificent, AND there’s a new translation of Ovid by Stephanie McCarter which just came out!
Pretty pretty please, I am begging, do NOT read Ovid. Ovid was the Andrew Tate of Ancient Rome. He wrote a literal in the modern sense of the phrase pick-up artist book about how to manipulate women into sex that included a LOT of really messed up advice even for the time. His misogyny translates directly into Metamorphoses as his versions of basically every single myth somehow managed to out-woman-hate even the Athenians.
Wonderful contribution miss. Been enjoying your channel and will pass it on to all my students 🐺
Thank you!
The Illiad and the Odyssey got me through my deployment when I was in the Navy on ship. Thanks for the reading list ❤ I like your panda 🐼
It makes me sad that people might sigh about having to read The Iliad and Odyssey.. I did, for decades.. but so glad I eventually did. Anyway, knowing nothing about such things (but I am trying to learn more) I will say that the Emily Wilson translation of the Odyssey really got into the book. Anyway, I have ordered the Homeric hymns to read next, after Jason and the Golden Fleece.
Thank you for your recommendations
Thank you for leaving this comment! ❤️
Hi I just found your channel and I am so glad that I did! I will be doing a solo trip to Europe this summer with Greece being one of my stops for 3 weeks. :) I'm super stoked and am definitely going to try to read more the books you recommended!
Ahhh - you’ll have the best time!!! Enjoy! 🖤
Could you do a video on your opinion of primary text translations? Like what are the pros and cons of a specific translation? What was the translators purpose in their methodology? Which translations are deemed as out of date or maybe leas academically valued?
Iv spent a lot more time on the Platonic and Aristotelian corpuses and when i read the notes on translation from different translators its kind of funny to see them call each other out. Im not nearly as familiar with the various translations of the Iliad and Odyssey so id like to hear an expert opinion
Thank you so much for this video it helps a lot!
You’re welcome ☺️
Read both Illiad and the odyssey when I was 15, seems like a million years ago... great to just fall into and have it be an immersive experience. Need to get Stephen Fry's new ones.
Just read the Stephen Fry books they are fantastic
I have those in my other video!!! I’m obsessed with them 😍
Hi Erica, thank you for your videos. They are inspirational! May I please request to cover Ancient Greek plays as well? (Oedipus Rex, Antigone, etc). It would be helpful if you could also suggest the best translations of these works to buy for someone who has no knowledge of the Ancient Greek language.
Thank You 🙏🏾
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one forgotten books about Troy´S war is posthomericas of Quintus of Esmiyna, which is an insteresting book.
Best prose versions of both Iliad and Odyssey (super new to epic poetry, and average reader in general haha).
Some great books to start with, but where would you recommend to go next?
What do you think Thomas Bulfinchs Mythology & or Robert Graves translations Greek Myth?
I have Hesiod in poetry and prose. I prefer the poetry.
Good that you found what style suits you best 🤓
Need to make bingo cards for all the book recs haha
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Unwittingly bought the Chapman translation of The Illiad and struggled through it
Was a couple of hundred pages in before I realised there were easier translations
Read the T.S Lawrence translation of The Odyssey which isn't in verse but easy to read and very enjoyable
There are so many translations so that everyone can find the one that suits them the best ✨
I love how arrogant Apollodoros is it has the following not ungraceful epigram:
'Draw your knowledge of the past from me and read the ancient tales of learned lore. Look neither at the page of Homer, nor of elegy, nor tragic muse, nor epic strain. Seek not the vaunted verse of the cycle; but look in me and you will find in me all that the world contains'.
Hi Erica: Thank you for this. Would you consider "The Complete Odes" by Pindar to be a good source for the Greek myths?
It's written by a Greek person and it involves the mythology, so yeah, probably.
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