ILIAD BOOK 1: Achilles Gets Mad Because Agamemnon Is A Child
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- In this video we're breaking down book 1 of Homer's "Iliad"! If you have to read the text for class and need some help in how the plot is moving, look no further. Today Erica is going through each and every motion of Book 1 from Apollo raining down a plague on the greek camps, to Achilles and Agamemnon fighting, and through to the god on Olympus squabbling about who they want to win the Trojan war.
Written Summary: www.moaninc.co.uk/homers-iliad/book-1-summary
The first version of the Iliad I suggest you get is probably the Hammond translation. It's in prose meaning it reads more like a story than poetry, and the language is super easy (no crazy words just to sound smart for the sake of it!) You can grab it on amazon here for £6: www.amazon.co....
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Idk if anyone else described it but the reason Thesis puts her hands on Zeus's knee and chin is because holding the knee is to prevent him from getting up and leaving the situation, and holding onto his chin is to 'subtly' persuade him to lower his chin (which was an agreement in the times) instead of raising his chin upwards (which was to reject). It wasn't really to seduce him but she probably would've if needed. But that sort of position was common in people who wanted to persuade others.
I'm taking a greek history course right now, and this helped me with summarizing this book so much! it's very nice to be able to hear like, a not smarta** summary where people sound smart to look smart. thank you so much for this, this really helped a lot!
Haha I’m going to take this as a compliment 😂 You’re so welcome!! So glad it helped ❤️
Thank you for this remarkable summation of Book 1. Very, very entertaining.
Thank you ✨✨✨
I'm 44 and just got diagnosed with ADHD and started taking meds. The first day I took them I opened the Iliad (for like the 10th time) and I finally could read it! It was like I could finally swim, _swoosh, swoosh_ through the pages.
Your breakdown is so helpful, though.
I'm thrilled to read the book and listen to your breakdown.
So glad this series helps!!! :)
Honestly Erica, I'm not usually the type of person to comment or pay too much attention to small channel's such as yourself. But ever since I got an extreme liking to Ancient Rome and Greece, I stumbled not too long ago on your video summary of Livy and I've been completely taken away by the energy and passion you breath into history when explaining and sharing your thoughts on it. The sheer enthusiasm and humor is enough to make me excited to learn a topic I already thought I couldn't be more excited to learn! A lot of this may came off as generic to say, but considering the size of your channel, I really do feel compelled to remind you that your efforts aren't going in vain and that they are much appreciated and held in high esteem! ❤️
This is so kind oh my god 🥺 thank you so much for watching my videos, but also for sitting down to write that. It genuinely means so much to me knowing that you enjoy my content! ❤️
Oh oh im far to important for your tiny channel but ill lower myself to watch and make sure you know that i know that im too good for such a small channel on the grounds i am great and important even if i am the only one that thinks so....
Just ignore jerks like this. You are entertaining and informative, thanks Erica
Thank you for the explanation❤️.
As an Indian Student, Sometimes it becomes difficult for me to understand the European Literature, but videos like this always helps me to complete my Academic portion.
Thanks once again❤️❤️
Thank you so much for watching 🙏
I’m currently reading/listening to the Robert Fitzgerald translation of the Illiad and I’m really enjoying it. These videos are definitely a help though if I feel like I missed something so thank you for taking the time to make them.
Thanks for watching!!! 🫶🏼🙏
It's so much fun to dive back into the epics of Homer with your gossip-like spill-the-tea vibes of recapping each of the books. Thanks!
Thank you SO MUCH for watching and engaging! 🥹💖
I laugh everytime I read the Thetis and Achilles scene bc she’s like “ofc I’ll ask Zeus, but not rn. He’s partying with the Etheopians rn”
That may as well be a direct quote 😂😂😂
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Great job on this video! I love literature but reading Iliad is never an easy task for me, and you actually made it fun and easy to understand the details. I wish I had found this channel sooner. Erica, I love your humor and how you tell the story!
Ah I’m so glad you found these videos fun and easy to understand 🥹 And that they helped you actually read the Iliad!!! ❤️
I’m listening to the Iliad for the first time, we “read it” in high school but I didn’t really get it. Coming to these after each book to really solidly the book into my head has been great!
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Thx so much for making this video I needed this so much
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You’re absolutely awesome. Your presentation is so full of energy, humour, charisma and insights … ! You’re so talented. Not only you have read the text and understood it with your head and heart but you lived it. That is why you’re able to unravel everything so beautifully. I’m so, so impressed. You’re also hilarious, you have a wonderful sense of humour. You made me laugh out loud several times. It’s great to infuse Ancient Greek with humour in this way. Humour, I believe, can become a conduit to deeper understanding. Ne plus ultra.
Thank you so much 🥹
@@MoAnInc I have uploaded a haunting reading in the original Ancient Greek by Dr Lombardo of the episode from Iliad 23 of Patroclus' ghost visiting Achilles during sleep ruclips.net/video/0ZVLs07joZk/видео.html
Nice to see someone explaining ancient Greek stories in a personal and funny way. It's noticeable you've got a good memory of the story, not a simple copy of some summary, and have a funny interpretation (gestures, voice etc).
I'm currently reading "The Illiad". I'll try watching your whole playlist for those qualities, including the creative opinion in the title, "Agamemnon is a Child". 😂
My suggestions for your future videos are they can be shorter and you can speak a little slower.
I have just finished reading book 1 now 5 seconds ago. I have been leaving you comments for many years about not watching your video-spoilers. But now I think I will watch your video for the first time. I did read the sparknote summary first to orient myself before reading the actual book 1.
So excited! Here we go! I just finished Book 1 and I’m so excited to watch this to make sure I fully understood what I read 😘
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Incredible recap and super entertaining! I love the ‘fuck Agamemnon’ vibes (Nestor and Odysseus are practically running a murderous kindergarten off the Trojan coast). Can’t wait to follow along as I get further into the book :)
Minor notes for anyone using this to study (which you know… same):
- While just about every other Greek is there out of a vow to protect Helen, Achilles is not. Erica mentions in a throwaway line that Achilles’s dad (Peleus) made an oath and that’s why he’s there but no, Achilles is there mostly voluntarily. There’s a prophecy that says that he’d either die young in Troy and be remembered forever OR that he’d live a long life in total obscurity and Achilles, being Achilles, chose the former. Honestly the fact that Achilles isn’t bound by any oaths adds insult to injury with the theft of Briseis
- I’ve read that the way Thetis grabs Zeus’s knee was actually a typical supplicant position at the time! Achilles even asks her to do so when he’s having a meltdown. It’d be the equivalent of getting on your knees before someone with your hands clasped- a kind of exaggerated begging position. But I agree, definite tension there 😆
Erica!!!! Thank you. This is EXACTLY what I was hoping existed and you made it happen. Rereading the Iliad and the Odyssey for the first time in many years!😊
Thank YOU for tuning in!!! 🫶🏼
I'm going to start calling people a *sack of wine* when I have an arguement from now on, and just watch their reaction.
Please report back for us all - I for one need to know how this turns out 😂
Book one is where I noticed that Achilles and Apollo have a lot of parallels. That and the Iliad is like an ancient Atlas Shrugged. Achilles is denied his war bride and sits out the war bringing the Greeks to a halt in their war efforts.
If you want to read more analysis about the Achilles and Apollo parallel, I would absolutely recommend the Ancient Greek Hero In 24 Hours by Gregory Nagy!
I love your explanation and description of the story. So entertaining so wonderful. I think Athena just treats him as a child and a child needs affirmation of their point of view.
Thank you! Hahaha that’s entirely possible about Athena. The analysis of this scene is super interesting though, I must say (the Greek even more so!)
Very well done! this took the fear of the original verse right out o me (even in translated English The Iliad and Odyssey are intimidating to me as I am coming to these classics after almost 5 decades of existing on this earth). I am now alternating between your videos and the translated verse book by book. Thank you.
I’m so so glad you’re engaging with this book oh my goodness!!!
Thank-you. You’ve explained the book very well.
You are very welcome, Peter 🫶🏼 Thanks for watching!
Love your energy! Your enthusiasm is so evident! Will be reading the Iliad for sure now.
Thank youuuu 🤓🫶🏼🥰
love it and hearing your version. i have read this and now want to go and read it again !
Thank you 😇
This recap had me laughing out loud. I look forward to watching the rest of this series as I go through the Illiad for the first time. Thanks for making it!
Also, thank you for clearing up certain misconceptions I was having (e.g. I was thinking Apollo shot actual arrows at animals and humans lol; I read that part like 5 times and was still confused)
Thank you so much for watching!! I’m so glad it was entertaining hahaha ❤️
I love how Achilles tells Agememnon “Do you think the Army just keeps spare prizes waiting around?”. LMAO!!! That’s why I want to get a “Menin” tattoo, to remind myself the consequences of rage and pride.
Hi! English is not my first language so I literally didn't understand the book when I read it first, I am so so thankful that I came across you! You explained it really well and funny lol. Thank you so much!!
This makes me SO HAPPY! Thank you so much for watching ❤️
This was fantastic!! So excited to see what’s coming up next 👏👏👏
Thank you so so much!!
Nice I just started reading the same copy by Peter Green you have behind you and these videos are going to be super helpful to watch after reading each book, thanks!
Thanks for watching!!! 🤩
Entering my first year of college, I definitely could not comprehend The Iliad at first sight. However, I found your video and watched the entire thing(without getting bored). After, I re-read The Iliad and found a completely different perspective. Thank you so much!
Wait STOP this comment just made my whole day!!! Thank you for taking the time to write this 😭❤️ Happy reading!!
Hi there! I am a freshman in college taking Great Books Colloquium, and reading Book 1 of the Iliad was our first assignment. Although I love reading I did not understand this story in the way it was written. I am SO glad I came across this video, it helped me understand much better. Thank you!!!!
Ah I’m so glad this helped!!!!! ❤️
love the Video! Fun and good summary
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1:27 To be more precise, the muse called Calliope is the one whom the poet invokes to assist in telling the story of the rage of Achilles.
Yikes! Excellent summary and delivery. Very, very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks for watching ✨
Listening to the Iliad on Audible and listened to book 1 3 times and understood almost nothing of it. THANK YOU so much.
🥺 the pleasure is all mine.
😂😂😂😂 I love the Greeks. Your explanation is also amazing thank you I think it helps make it so funny
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As a person of colour I wish you would have mentioned that zeus was actrually dining with the Ethiopians.
It's a nice detail for us coloured folk.
This series is awesome though thanks for covering
Thank you for watching! ❤️
RAGE! tell @MoAnInc, of The RAGE of Peleus' son ACHILLES!
I'm LOVING it!
(Our art museum has a painting of the Moment: Agamemnon throwing his tantrum; Achilles, hand on sword, about to draw it: IMMA KILL HIM; Athena, hand on his shoulder: CHILL, I've got this.)
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Im only 3 minutes in and I love your summary omg
Hahaha thank youuuu 🥺❤️
This is a great summary.
Thank you!
My exam is on 30th dec ,and this book 1 is coming in exams and thanks for the fun explanation.
You’re so welcome and good luck on your exam!
There is more to it than 'Agamemnon 'Is A Child'...the seer who tells the Greeks why Apollo is angry and Agamemnon must give up the girl, is the same seer who told him the Greeks would only obtain a favorable wind for sailing to Troy if Agamemnon sacrificed his daughter. This is what sets him off, even before the seer speaks.
I say this in the episode, but that’s not what makes him “a child” in this book
@@MoAnInc I don't really see how he is a child in this story...he does foolish things, like jeopardizing the support of Achilles but at other times he holds up fairly well...he suspects his men may not want to fight without Achilles and tries a bit of reverse psychology on them, which backfires...the attempt is hardly childish...he prevents his brother Menelaus from committing suicide by fighting Hektor...he owes up to the mess he's made re: Achilles (Book IX).. Perhaps I am just making too much of the word 'child'...you did commendable work on this presentation. .
You have enriched my literary life…
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Loved the explanation ❤
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Jove wasn't upbraiding Juno as her husband, he was upbraiding her as the God. I think there is an important distinction here that shouldn't be overlooked.
Hey Erica, ok first of all I am in love with these videos. I have a quick question - Achilles asks Thetis to plead with Zeus to support the Trojans, so that trojans can win and Achaeans can realize that they should not have dishonoured Achilles. That right????
Thank you! Also I go into this throughout the series, so keep watching 😉
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Hello Erica . I'm from India. I really enjoyed your video. The way you narrated is very catchy. Lots of love from me and my country. Also you are really handsome . I've a request for you, Can you make a video on critical analysis of Book 1 and 18 ?
Best teacher ever
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This was an awesome brief, thanks.
Thank you for watching ❤️
You make this so fun and you are hilarious! I really enjoyed how you bring the humor and sarcasm into it. I was watching your video and then reading the passage again and it read so differently after hearing your point of view. I am loving this and looking forward to watching all the videos after reading each chapter. Thank you for posting these. I am gonna stop now cause I am gushing, but I was totally entertained! Thanks again.
I’m SO SO happy that these videos helped alongside your reading!!! ❤️
The way I looked at it was that Agamemnon and AChilles are both siblibgs. Agamemnon being the youngest AKA the spoiled the brat. And achilles being the eldest lol
Well Achilles is about to be a spoiled brat in a hot second so 😂💀
Thank you so much
It is very useful for me to study English Literature Honours
I’m thrilled this was helpful for you!!!
Omg , same here 👀
Ahhh I loved this one... ❤
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Thank you for this! 🥇💓
Thank you for watching!! 💖
Hi , I love the way you explain but the point is you speak quite fast .It would have been better if it was a bit slower. Anyways love your videos and keep posting such useful video content!💕
I know!!! I’m so sorry - I’m still working on it! I promise the next series will be much slower because you’re not the only person who has said this!!! 💔
I really enjoyed this
I’m glad 😇
Again, can’t recommend the Stephen Mitchell English translation! Probably the most warrior-like and full of the bravado and machismo, but also flows better than most translations.
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In the text I have, Zeus and Hera are called Jove and Juno, and Joves father is called Saturn, is Saturn another name for Kronos? So yeah do these three characters just have alternate names for them? I did Google it but couldn’t find anything confirming this….
These are Roman names! Whoever translated the Greek text used the Roman names for the gods is all - weird choice on their part? But yes, all your Greek equivalents are correct 🤓
@@MoAnInc thank-you. what version / publisher is your copy? need to buy one with the Greek gods names I think.
@@danodanm my favourite translations are:
1. Hammond’s for prose
2. Lattimore’s for poetry
Hammond’s is a penguin classics and Lattimore is University of Chicago Press :)
@@MoAnInc many thanks… will be getting one soon !
@@MoAnInc could you post me a link to the Hammonds one, I’m not hundred percent sure I’ve got the right one on Amazon…., thank you…
You did a fantastic job! So happy I found your channel 😁
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I have to write a very long essay for the Iliad. Can you help me with this quote like what does it really mean 😥
O my poor child. I bore you for sorrow,
Nursed you for grief. Why? You should be
Spending your time here by your ships
Happily and untroubled by tears,
Since life is short for you, all too brief.
Now you’re destined for both and early death
And misery beyond compare.
You got this!!!! I know you can do this all on your own - this essay will be a piece of cake for yah ❤️ You’re much smarter than you give yourself credit for!
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But maammmmm agnamenon took my slave girl and it's not fairrrr make zeus give her back to meeee
(in cartmen voice)
LMAO!!! It’s a good allegory/fable to show the consequences of rage and pride. I want to get “Menin”, in Greek as maybe my final tattoo as a reminder of that.
@@Genethagenius you should get cartman dressed as achilles for a tattoo
Love from India Moan Inc❤️🥰Your lectures are amazing . I am highly enjoying it. 👍👍
Thank you! ❤️
I would like to start off with a quick apology for being picky but you tend to use the word LITERALLY very often (25 times in 27 minutes.) Many (likely most of them) being used completely wrong. Again, sorry to pick at this but I found it very distracting and it made certain parts more difficult to follow; maybe it was just me. The rest is very well done. Your excitement and thoroughness on this topic is greatly appreciated!
Thanks for watching!!! 🫶🏼
However, even though he’s throwing a temper tantrum like the spoiled child he is, Agamemnon DOES make a good point about Achilles: He didn’t earn any, or at least most, of his battle prowess owing to his divinity. Kind of a “Check Your Privilege” kind of thing in my opinion.
Are you seriously going to review every book ?
Yep. Every single one.
I'm glad there's a super good-looking woman talking about the classics. The sad reality is people, in general, will not watch videos, no matter how intelligent the presenter is, unless that person is hot or extremely accomplished and wealthy. Well, the other exception being faceless videos. Great cultural works are important. I'm for whatever it takes to get people to learn about them.
Even discussing books people have to flaunt themselves for attention. If your content is good, there's no need to pimp yourself out.
you’re effed in the head and I hope all women only ever touch you with a ten-foot pole