On down the road I’m probably going to build a 6.5 CM because I’d love to find a range with a 1000 yard target alley. I’ve hit targets at 500 yards with my 308 and for now I’m happy with that.
Nice presentation. I have probably half a dozen full rifles and several more than that uppers from you guys. I'm in Johnston County, about 45 miles from you. They've planted a $400k+ housing development on almost every spot I've been hunting for 25 years. I have a Creedmoor from you, but it's overkill when I don't have anywhere to take a shot past 200 yards anymore. I have two Grendels and one (maybe 2) 7.62x39 from your company. With good ammo, even from an SBR, both are quite capable of deer at 150yds, much further with the Grendel. Both are Smaller. Lighter. Softer shooting. And at the possible ranges for shots in the swamps and across the few agricultural fields left, they're on par with the Creedmoor & 308. Looking to pick up an AR10 lower from your company as soon as I have funds in hand
Awesome 411 Lamar, I got a 6.5 Creedmoor bbl from you guys, have had it built for about a year now but gonna put some rounds thru it this weekend, hopefully lol.
Good stuff, i too am a NC native, born and raised and i absolutely agree on the hunting style you have to do here. Everywhere i hunt is very dense and short range, 90 percent of my shots are within 70 yards. I keep wantin to try 6.5 ir 308 but i cant get away from 223/5.56. I have 5 uppers from you guys and all of them are gen 2 side chargers besides the 50 Beowulf, bein gen 1. I have 2, 450 bushmaster uppers, the 50, and 2, 5 56 uppers. Out of the bunch, my favorite hunting rifle to date is my 20 inch side charging 5.56 rig, suppressed with just a red dot and an a2 fixed stock. Some of my buddies call it my tactical musket lol but holy smokes! She just runs and performs so damn well and accurate as hell. I havent lost a single animal with it. Ive killed beavers, coyotes and whitetail with it. Including this past year i killed my first piebald buck, he was an 8 pointer, about 160 pounds, and OLD. He had to be pushin 6 to 8 years old or better, all his teeth were wore down to the gums. Such a cool deer, and awesome rifle.
Good video. Like you 99% of all deer I shoot are 100 yards or less, once in awhile 200 yards in 58 years the farthest was 425 yards and have never come anywhere close to that range again.
What is the recoil difference between the two? Would like to get this platform for my fiancé for future Elk hunts. Recoil is going to be a factor in the purchase decision (small stature and new shooter)
It always kinda strange that nobody considers the 7mm-08. Shoots almost as flat as 6.5 and can use up to a 180-195 gr bullet although a 160-165 gr would be best.
Interesting comparison, but you may have picked a slow .308 vs a quick 6.5 Creedmore with a long barrel. A 20" 149 gr. Creedmore is about 2600 fps, whereas the .308 is more like 2800 fps. High fives for the .308. Hornady lists their 150 gr .308 inter bond and sst at 3000fps. At this speed .308 walks right by the 6.5 Creedmoor in energy all the way to just short of 500yds. And no almost one kills large animals at 500 yds with an ar10, so energy is moot and bullet drop is just a scope dope function. Creedmore ammo is big bucks, like 57.00 a box in small Texas towns, .308 can be had cheap almost anywhere. If a shooter just wants long range , Ar10 in .243 smokes a Creedmore. Just ask John Widden. If a shooter wants it all, an ar10 in 6.5 PRC is the real deal.
Why did you go with the dpms style? These uppers won't fit on a PSA AR 10 or will they .? I'm looking to buy a 6.5 because I have a bolt already but I should have went 308 it's sooo much cheaper.!
I am waiting on another 22" Bull-barrel Creedmoor side-charger upper, but always out of stock. Please build. Maybe take a cue from Hornady and Nosler and make a 24". It's what I really want. P.S. adding a gas shut-off to the side charger makes a nice side-cocking bolt action out of the AR. Stupid accurate.
Off your subject here I have 2 of your 6.5 Grendel’s I’m putting muzzle brakes on them and need to know if the thread pattern is the standard 308 thread pattern.
I have both uppers, as well as a 243 and 260. I shoot the 6.5 CM and the 243 the most. The 260 is nearly irrelevant since I have the 6.5 upper but I put it together because I found the 22" barrel for $80 and now I have just a little more versatility if ammo becomes even more scarce than it is. That said, 99% of what I shoot are my reloads and since it costs less to reload the 6.5 CM and uses the same bullets, the 260 has essentially no place in my arsenal but I have no plans to sell it. I do shoot the 308 a good bit and it's the one I usually hunt with because it's lighter(16" barrel and compact scope with no bipod or accessories). It's also the cheapest to reload because 30 cal projectiles are everywhere for very little cost. For me, and for mostly target shooting, I'd rank them 243, 6.5 CM, 308 and then 260. For hunting medium game it would be 308, 6.5, 260, 243.
@@jmgates09 You can buy 7-08 AR10 barrels and build one. It isn't hard or expensive. I have a 7-08 bolt gun and see no benefit over the 6.5 CM or 308 Win. I might build one eventually just because I have lots of brass and 284 bullets aren't hard to get but I'd have to find the barrel for less than $100.
What is the recoil difference between the two? Would like to get this platform for my fiancé for future Elk hunts. Recoil is going to be a factor in the purchase decision (small stature and new shooter)
I love the Creedmoor but I don't reload and the availability of the Creedmoor ammo right now is..... well..... I think it's gone extinct. For plinking way out there though Creedmoor is just king of the two.
Do yall have any plans of ever making the 243 again or ever doing a 7mm08 or rem260 in Ar10s seems like a part of the market yall could corner with yalls price points I'd definitely buy a upper of each
Okay i got the Bear Creek Arsenal 6.5 Creemoor (SS) 22" Barrel and now i can't find a gas tube or a gas block anywhere how do i get one Do i send this back this is no good if theres no parts to complete this Can you let me know starting to think what good is this if there's no parts to this can you HELP ME
no one knows how to help me ? where can i get the parts to this 6.5 Creedmoor 22" Stainless Heavy Barrel, 1:8 Twist, Rifle Length Gas System|Barrel and Bear Creek Arsenal can't or can help ?
I can walk into my favorite local shop snd pick up either 308 or 6.5cm but I’ve been shooting 308 for 20 years and don’t feel the need to reload for a different cartridge
I'm a bigger fan of the 308, honestly. The 308 seems to hold up better on the windage side of things with those heavier pills. There's also decades of logged ballistics data behind the 308. They're both very capable rounds. 308 also has more longevity in the throat and chamber of your barrel.
I prefer 308. 6.5 Creedmoor is a great round but its twice as much and availability has been eye twitching. If need to go longer I have other caliber that are not ar platform campatable.
I’ll take a BCA AR10 in .308 and buy a BCA 6.5 Creedmore upper. Problem solved. With BCA I can buy both for the price of one from other manufacturers.
EXACTLY….well said brother, Case closed!!! Lol 💯🇺🇸
I bought a dpms lr308 and bought a 6.5 upper from them n took a deer with both this year
That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. And with their prices, flexibility AND affordability.
I bought a 6.5 Grendle upper a few weeks ago, wish I woulda snagged a 22 mag upper at the same time. Lol.
I'm also an NC native and agree. My AR10 chambering of choice is .308.
Ty for making a short but to the point video . I’ve been looking for a short video that said it all and this did it perfect. Ty
On down the road I’m probably going to build a 6.5 CM because I’d love to find a range with a 1000 yard target alley. I’ve hit targets at 500 yards with my 308 and for now I’m happy with that.
Nice presentation. I have probably half a dozen full rifles and several more than that uppers from you guys.
I'm in Johnston County, about 45 miles from you. They've planted a $400k+ housing development on almost every spot I've been hunting for 25 years.
I have a Creedmoor from you, but it's overkill when I don't have anywhere to take a shot past 200 yards anymore.
I have two Grendels and one (maybe 2) 7.62x39 from your company. With good ammo, even from an SBR, both are quite capable of deer at 150yds, much further with the Grendel.
Both are Smaller. Lighter. Softer shooting. And at the possible ranges for shots in the swamps and across the few agricultural fields left, they're on par with the Creedmoor & 308.
Looking to pick up an AR10 lower from your company as soon as I have funds in hand
This video may decide my next barrel and project
Awesome 411 Lamar, I got a 6.5 Creedmoor bbl from you guys, have had it built for about a year now but gonna put some rounds thru it this weekend, hopefully lol.
Good stuff, i too am a NC native, born and raised and i absolutely agree on the hunting style you have to do here. Everywhere i hunt is very dense and short range, 90 percent of my shots are within 70 yards. I keep wantin to try 6.5 ir 308 but i cant get away from 223/5.56. I have 5 uppers from you guys and all of them are gen 2 side chargers besides the 50 Beowulf, bein gen 1. I have 2, 450 bushmaster uppers, the 50, and 2, 5 56 uppers. Out of the bunch, my favorite hunting rifle to date is my 20 inch side charging 5.56 rig, suppressed with just a red dot and an a2 fixed stock. Some of my buddies call it my tactical musket lol but holy smokes! She just runs and performs so damn well and accurate as hell. I havent lost a single animal with it. Ive killed beavers, coyotes and whitetail with it. Including this past year i killed my first piebald buck, he was an 8 pointer, about 160 pounds, and OLD. He had to be pushin 6 to 8 years old or better, all his teeth were wore down to the gums. Such a cool deer, and awesome rifle.
When is the .22 Magnum upper becoming available?
Or, better yet..
Jump right to the 17WSM.
@@Michigan4Conservative .. absolutely Brother 🇺🇸
That would be perfect.
You guys should start announcing giveaway winners on here
Build more 24" barreled uppers and I will order.
Nice I may get that 6.5 sometime
great explanation, tyvm
Good video. Like you 99% of all deer I shoot are 100 yards or less, once in awhile 200 yards in 58 years the farthest was 425 yards and have never come anywhere close to that range again.
Appreciate the video appreciate the information keep up the good work
Could you please make à vidéo on the various barrel types and accuracy for your 308 win. AR 10 .
Tank you for your time.
What is the recoil difference between the two? Would like to get this platform for my fiancé for future Elk hunts. Recoil is going to be a factor in the purchase decision (small stature and new shooter)
It always kinda strange that nobody considers the 7mm-08. Shoots almost as flat as 6.5 and can use up to a 180-195 gr bullet although a 160-165 gr would be best.
Interesting comparison, but you may have picked a slow .308 vs a quick 6.5 Creedmore with a long barrel. A 20" 149 gr. Creedmore is about 2600 fps, whereas the .308 is more like 2800 fps. High fives for the .308. Hornady lists their 150 gr .308 inter bond and sst at 3000fps. At this speed .308 walks right by the 6.5 Creedmoor in energy all the way to just short of 500yds. And no almost one kills large animals at 500 yds with an ar10, so energy is moot and bullet drop is just a scope dope function. Creedmore ammo is big bucks, like 57.00 a box in small Texas towns, .308 can be had cheap almost anywhere. If a shooter just wants long range , Ar10 in .243 smokes a Creedmore. Just ask John Widden. If a shooter wants it all, an ar10 in 6.5 PRC is the real deal.
Why did you go with the dpms style? These uppers won't fit on a PSA AR 10 or will they .? I'm looking to buy a 6.5 because I have a bolt already but I should have went 308 it's sooo much cheaper.!
I am waiting on another 22" Bull-barrel Creedmoor side-charger upper, but always out of stock. Please build. Maybe take a cue from Hornady and Nosler and make a 24". It's what I really want. P.S. adding a gas shut-off to the side charger makes a nice side-cocking bolt action out of the AR. Stupid accurate.
Off your subject here I have 2 of your 6.5 Grendel’s I’m putting muzzle brakes on them and need to know if the thread pattern is the standard 308 thread pattern.
The thread pitch of our 6.5 Grendel barrels is 5/8-24
@@Bear_Creek_Arsenal thank you
I wanted to hit the Like button but the like count was 308. I'm not spoiling that!
Do you think you can make an AR out of a 30-06?
no that cartridge is too long without engineering a wholenew platform to cycle the round
Nemo make 300 win mag in a AR the Omen
I have both uppers, as well as a 243 and 260. I shoot the 6.5 CM and the 243 the most. The 260 is nearly irrelevant since I have the 6.5 upper but I put it together because I found the 22" barrel for $80 and now I have just a little more versatility if ammo becomes even more scarce than it is. That said, 99% of what I shoot are my reloads and since it costs less to reload the 6.5 CM and uses the same bullets, the 260 has essentially no place in my arsenal but I have no plans to sell it. I do shoot the 308 a good bit and it's the one I usually hunt with because it's lighter(16" barrel and compact scope with no bipod or accessories). It's also the cheapest to reload because 30 cal projectiles are everywhere for very little cost. For me, and for mostly target shooting, I'd rank them 243, 6.5 CM, 308 and then 260. For hunting medium game it would be 308, 6.5, 260, 243.
Wish they would make a 7mm08 upper
@@jmgates09 You can buy 7-08 AR10 barrels and build one. It isn't hard or expensive. I have a 7-08 bolt gun and see no benefit over the 6.5 CM or 308 Win. I might build one eventually just because I have lots of brass and 284 bullets aren't hard to get but I'd have to find the barrel for less than $100.
What is the recoil difference between the two? Would like to get this platform for my fiancé for future Elk hunts. Recoil is going to be a factor in the purchase decision (small stature and new shooter)
I love the Creedmoor but I don't reload and the availability of the Creedmoor ammo right now is..... well..... I think it's gone extinct.
For plinking way out there though Creedmoor is just king of the two.
Do yall have any plans of ever making the 243 again or ever doing a 7mm08 or rem260 in Ar10s seems like a part of the market yall could corner with yalls price points I'd definitely buy a upper of each
Okay i got the Bear Creek Arsenal 6.5 Creemoor (SS) 22" Barrel and now i can't find a gas tube or a gas block anywhere how do i get one
Do i send this back this is no good if theres no parts to complete this
Can you let me know
starting to think what good is this if there's no parts to this can you HELP ME
no one knows how to help me ? where can i get the parts to this 6.5 Creedmoor 22" Stainless Heavy Barrel, 1:8 Twist, Rifle Length Gas System|Barrel and Bear Creek Arsenal
can't or can help ?
I can walk into my favorite local shop snd pick up either 308 or 6.5cm but I’ve been shooting 308 for 20 years and don’t feel the need to reload for a different cartridge
I agree with this fellow too.
I like the extra 300 yards but Yeah,it's pricey
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I think the BCA guys are smart enough to engineer a 30-06 in a AR platform. Or just a semi-automatic 30 ought 6 with the BCA touches on it
That's basically what the 308 already is. Look at the versus ballistics.
.308 is readily available but 6.5 give better ballistics coefficient meaning less effect by wind drift.
I'm a bigger fan of the 308, honestly. The 308 seems to hold up better on the windage side of things with those heavier pills. There's also decades of logged ballistics data behind the 308.
They're both very capable rounds. 308 also has more longevity in the throat and chamber of your barrel.
I just read that 6.5 rifles you will get 1800 to 2000 rounds before barrel burnout.
Hello how much for a 300 blackout barrel
You should buy the 6.5,,
I need all the .308 ammo I can get. :)
Il stick with the 308 it kept me alive for 2 year's and makes a mess of the bad guy
Your top row of bullet drop numbers at 300yd and 400yd should be negative not positive (-7.3 and -21.1).
Nah thats how good the uppers are 😉 *jk but uppers are good*
I prefer 308. 6.5 Creedmoor is a great round but its twice as much and availability has been eye twitching. If need to go longer I have other caliber that are not ar platform campatable.
6.5 is great. But at long range a hole in paper is different than meat.
Hornady made 6.5 for target shooting
That's what it was made for but it's probably number 1 in deer rifle sales now and hunting loads
.308...cuzz it's what I have!
6.5 only outperforms 308 after 300 yards ballistically it shoots flatter
a little bit flatter??? bro at 1,000 yards, 6.5 drops like 110 inches.... guess how much 308 drops... ABOUT 350 INCHES.... sheit.
.308 trumps 6.5 400yards and under 6.5 stands out 400 and up ! But .308 is proven and battle tested.