Fun fact: 2003 is the only NFL season ever in which every team won at least 4 games. 4 teams shared the bottom spot at 4-12: Giants, Raiders, Chargers, Cardinals. And guess what? The 9-7 Vikings, who started 6-0, *lost to all four.*
So many great lineman in the storied history of the game have never received such a simple thing as recognition for their effort + skill. It truly was the most fitting gift to give
@@dukexnukemx4189 I was an offensive lineman, so was my brother, and we followed in my father’s footsteps on the line. When we watch games together we give those truly great blocks the replays they never get. This series has spent many moments celebrating those less celebrated positions, but that moment was the highlight
@@nathanmcguire932 It was the playoffs following the 2009 season though, I'm sure they will include it in the 2000's decade. It wouldn't be like them to end the video with "yeah, 12-4 season there in 2009, some questions remain after a shaky few games near the end of the year but this was the contender the Vikings have been looking for since 1998, what will happen? Find out next time!"
He's broken a law and ignored a direct order, but if he makes the turn, he doesn't endanger anybody. Take his plates and fine him appropriately, twice. Don't *jump on his car*!
working your way to what's shaping up to be a legendary and incredibly lucrative football career and then going "ehh. honestly football's pretty boring, i'm gonna go do stuff i actually like" is some all-time king shit
I think what makes these Secret Base documentaries so special is how much they humanize the people in the story. And I really felt that on that Korey Stringer tribute
I would love to see what they could do if they got ESPN money to make these, they're incredible as is and I'm a Packers fan who doesn't watch baseball or UFC. They're just so full of interesting stories and perfectly narrated.
@@theblackwidow3401 he said it was a “mistake”, you and a group of your friends going and beating up a kid because he is a different race than you is not a “mistake” it’s a hate crime.
I'm not a Vikes fan, I'm a mailman in Buffalo New York. But that Korey Stringer story... I'm convinced his passing and his wife's efforts helped organizations not just in football but like mine to recognize the dangers of heat illness. Since its 90 degrees this week in September in Buffalo of all places, he has nothing less than my eternal graditude.
I remember the Corey Stringer story. We live in Minnesota, and that summer, we were putting a new roof on the house. Hearing the story of a guy dying from the heat, while us teenagers were working outside in the heat every day, scared us straight to listen to our parents to stay hydrated and safe. The highlight reel is the least that can be done for a guy like that, who never got the spotlight.
Yeah, I had a Vikings calendar for that year, and by coincidence, Korey Stringer was the picture for the month of August. I only realized it a couple years later I think
Thanks for really covering how bad Favre is destroyed in the championship game. A lot of Saints fans/players like to say that every team did the bounty thing, but the Saints definitely took it to another level.
It was truly horrendous...THAT THE REFS JUST LET IT HAPPEN. Like of all the things from that game, the thing that gets me most as a Saints fan was the refs swallowing their whistle and leaving their flags alone. They didn't see that as too brutal?
They really didn't. The NFL inflated the outrage of Bountygate to shield them from very real player safety issues. All of the player suspensions were over turned because the NFL had flimsy to non existent real evidence. Not to mention the Saints were among the bottom of the league in Personal Foul Penalties and Injuries against opposing players in that time frame. The Saints committed some mild Cap violations because tiny amounts of money did change hands, but what the Saints did was really not fundamentally different than helmet stickers for defensive players in college football. And yes most teams had locker rooms where small pools of money were put together by players and coaches to award big plays.
They happily accepted roughing the passer penalty’s/unnecessary roughness penalty’s because they knew it would pay dividends to have Favre broken and concussed in the second half. To this day I’ve never seen a team more merciless in their zeal to injure the opposition
@JonWeilbaecher The narrative on this game really bothers me and always has. This game was not only two+ years before the Bountygate revelations, it was three years before League of Denial was published and the massive concussion lawsuit got rolling. It's a good thing that our eyes were opened in the way they were but it has completely warped our perception of history. Go back and watch some games from the late 2000s and you'll see that what the Saints did (ON the field, at least) was not out of the ordinary at all. Of all the hits shown in this video, only the high-low shot late in the third quarter should have drawn a flag and didn't. All of those first half hits were legal at the time. Kurt Warner got obliterated on a hit worse than any Favre took in this game just *ONE WEEK PRIOR*. No flag. The rules making those hits illegal were passed years after this game, when the NFL finally was forced to start covering its ass. I get that the hosts here have a narrative to spin, but it really bothers me when this game is subject to such brazen revisionism.
Things to expect in this episode… - Daunte Culpepper - Missing the draft pick (twice) - Vikings vs Cardinals Week 17 2003 - “Straight cash homie!” - Troy Williamson (pain) - The infamous “Love Boat” - Adrian Peterson - “THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL!!!”
@@doruka890I loved the Mariners one the most too. I think it's because of how mystical it is (I don't watch baseball that much) so I didn't really know what was going to happen. For the Falcons I already knew about 51 and the Vikings doc was teased off from the Falcons to begin with. Also the Mariners just felt cool and looked cool.
They took a couple steps backward in the middle of the decade in particular, and ended the decade the same way they began it: With a season that ended in losing the NFC Championship Game.
Robert Smiths 'im just not much of a football fan' statement as a reason for retirement might be the most honest admission by any athlete ever. Hilarious and legendary
I feel like "Aw, dang it" should have just been the title for this entire series, not just this episode. It perfectly encapsulates what it's like to be a Vikings fan.
Rest In Peace korey, your loss has paved the way for much needed education and improvements in technology on the subject of heatstroke Rest easy big guy
I know a lot has to hit the cutting room floor, but really wish the throw from Favre to Greg Lewis to beat the 49ers early in the 2009 season was mentioned. I don't think anyone really believed the Vikings/Favre pairing could work (as a Vikings fan) until that very moment, since he'd thrown for less than 300 combined yards in the first two games against Detroit and Cleveland. It's one of the greatest plays I've ever seen, only to be topped by something coming in the next episode
@@WildFan-sp3lu I was watching the end of that game with some friends in the clubhouse after a round of golf. The phrase "guess he earned the $12 million" was the general consensus after that throw. Thought Lewis deserves more credit than Favre imo.
"Congratulations to the New Engla-oh, sorry, the New York Giants" Ouch, Jon. 15 years later and that super bowl still haunts me on a deep and spiritual level.
Wasn't expecting a glowing review of Prince's halftime show but glad it was in here. It's one of the greatest live music performances of all time and more people need to see it.
I try to explain to people what that was like to watch, even for rooms full of folks who weren’t Prince fans. Everyone just stopped and watched in awe. He started covering Jimi, and even I was like “oh man, I’m not sure you should try to live up to That”… and then a minute later I was like “ohhhhhh jesus christ. ok. sorry. I get it now” and he played Purple Rain, and it rained. RIP purple man
I'm a Bears fan who had roughly 45 seconds of fun during that entire game, but man you could just tell in the moment that that Prince performance was going to go down in history. Legend has it that NFL personnel told him before his performance that it's starting to rain pretty hard and he might not be able to perform, and Prince responded by asking if there was any way they could make it rain even more. Unbeatable legend of a man.
Its not often a concert can be called a "once in a lifetime" event and live up to it, but that show did. A hundred plus million people got to watch the coda of Purple Rain played by an incredible showman in the actual rain. The literal elements were on his side for a spectacle.
Vikings fan since 1968. Man, these are PAINFUL. But they're extremely well done. My wife has been watching with me, not knowing any of the history. She has wondered aloud why I continue to support a team that has busted my heart so many times over the years. I smiled at her and said, "Not every obsession I have is as good for me as you are." Jon Bois got me laid.
I love Jon's delivery. The Mike Tice's son and Super Bowl 42 reads made me laugh out loud. Also... I remember Breaking Madden, the Ole Gunslinger takes his records back from Peyton. Jon's reading here of resenting Brett Favre later... Jon's usually so reserved, so much like his character Beeftank of seeing the good in people, and that one line... I love Jon's delivery.
as a long time Vikings fan, the Korey Stringer highlight reel brought tears to my eyes. He was on his game when I was forming team loyalties in high school and loosing him sucked. So glad to see some recognition.
Other than the Farve INT, I don’t think I’ve watched a clip of that game since that day. I completely forgot about the 12 men on the field before that play and when they slow it down didn’t even realize Farve had room to run for maybe 3-4 yards
I need to know the songs in these videos. That 4-note start to what I refer to as the "sad music" lives rent free in my head and is my red balloon. Everytime I hear it I'm instantly sad.
Almost two hours, and still no time for the poison pill shenanigans and barely a glimpse of Jared Allen, an all time great character. What a wild decade.
As a life long Vikings fan, this one was the most painful for me. Nothing tops the 09 playoff game against the Saints. I was physically in pain watching Favre get hit like that. Then they go on to win the SB... 98 takes 2nd place as it was crushing but not dirty.
i was a dipshit 6 year old pretending to be funny by saying "go saints" to my mom not knowing any better. to this day idk how she didnt lay a finger on me or leave me on the side of the road. i guessed i was punished by ending up choosing the vikings instead of my dads broncos
I kept shouting after the hit where Favre threw the pick to Vilma. The Vikings ultimately cost themselves the game with all their turnovers, but had the Saints not had a bounty on Favre, maybe Favre doesn’t throw that pick to Tracy Porter in the fourth quarter.
Losing to the Falcons is just embarrassing. It happens. Losing to a team that is breaking the rules on purpose is bad enough. Losing to a team whose rule-breaking is designed to injure players…rage. Takes some monumentally shit behavior to make me feel this kind of sympathy for Brett Favre in 2023.
I watched the game at a local biker bar, because they offered free purple shots every time The Vikings scored a touchdown. They actually handed shots out to everyone At the Goal line at the end of the first half, when we were fixing to punch it in..... I still remember the bar keeper throwing her hands in the air, sighing, and grumbling "just.......take your shots". Quietest bar I'd ever heard. Well, quietest until the throw across the body
As a massive NFL fan who came of age in the aughts, I knew most of these names and a lot of these stories. And Alex’s tiny little foreshadowing moments, there were several of them, were absolutely brilliant. I think I knew the name Korey Stringer but pretty much nothing else about him, but that highlight reel memorial damn near made me cry. Musically, every time something shitty happens from now on I’m going to hear the “Aw dang it” motif. And FUCK YEAH THE SAINTS SAX CAME BACK. Can’t wait to wrap it all up on Friday!
This is like the Secret Base Infinity War. We have crossovers with Rewind, Pretty Good, History of the Falcons, and so much more. It even has THAT punt, though they kind of gloss it over.
Every time I think you guys can't surprise me any further, you provide a Korey Stringer highlight reel as a tribute to his life and legacy, and you stun me even further with your sincerity and love.
I was born in 1987, and these Vikings were my everything... until that buzzer-beating loss to the Cardinals. I remember being in my basement, furious tears in my eyes as I ripped my shirt to pieces so I didn't destroy something and get yelled at by my mom. That was the start of the end, finally severing my fandom once Moss left. I have never attempted to claim a team since because I was utterly broken by this franchise. To this day, I love sports but have never left myself vulnerable enough to have a rooting interest. I've been terrified of watching this specific episode because of the trauma - but I did find this healing. Thank you so much, Jon and Alex. This series is a height and I will watch or read anything you ever touch.
You know that part in Jon's "Pretty Good: NO!!!!!!" where he addresses the viewers and says, "We both know exactly what is going to happen...I know that you know..."? We're getting into the era that I started to really follow the NFL, and I knew exactly how this episode would end after seeing the title. I hope you weren't lonely making the video Jon.
Went to high school and played a year of basketball with Dante Culpepper's oldest sons. He's really present in the community but unless you watched football, you'd never know what he was up to 20 years ago because he just... doesn't talk about it. One of the most down-to-earth, family oriented guys you'll ever meet. He took time to talk to all of us personally on multiple occasions. He's just there to be a dad.
My cousin lived next door to him when he played for the Vikes back in the day. Said he was a hell of a nice guy, used to toss the ball around with neighborhood kids.
That Korey Stringer tribute was incredible. I'd never seen him play before this moment, but he made some awesome blocks. I just wish he could still be around today to see this appreciation.
And now I'm going to give you an offensive joke for that player. If Korey stringer was the man, then his coffin was the violin, and death the one who played it.
The moment I hear "Urban Saxman" at 1:26:14 just hits in a way I don't know how to describe. It's like you've been waiting for it the entire episode and it hits at maybe the most emotionally crushing part. Like you *know* what's about to happen even though it hasn't "happened" yet
I know I’ve already said this before, but I’ve gotta say it again. Jon Bois & Alex Rubinstein are truly great at crafting Dorktown masterpieces. But one thing I’ll add is this. Considering all the craziness surrounding the Minnesota Vikings in the 2000s, I find it utterly amazing that they were even NFL postseason contenders in the first place. Mind-boggling stuff…
The writing and delivery for 1:21:50-1:23:07 is simply fantastic. That one segment will live rent free in my head just like the surprise Ricky Henderson documentary in the Dave Steib series. Wonderful work
Prince winning SB XLI was an hilarious rug-pull! Everything you guys are doing is more amazing than any 30for30 or any sports doc (Last Dance included)
As a younger fan that 2009 season has a special sting. An introduction to an unimaginable amount of bad luck and painful endings. Skol to the rest of the fans and just one before we die.
I remember it clear as day and I would’ve been 8. Had a crazy blizzard that left us without power for a week. I remember hearing every second of that game through Paul Allen’s voice on a battery powered radio in our basement. Crushing.
As a forty year old I have to admit that one is the most infuriating. I've seen the chokes, the heartbreakers, but that is the only time we have been absolutely cheated.
All I want to say is this is the BEST SERIES I HAVE EVER WATCHED!!!! GREAT JOB!!!!! I LOVE MY VIKINGS even with all the ups and downs, but as you have showed they are a great Franchise!! SCOL VIKINGS!!!! I love all the graphics and pictures with the newspaper clippings!! If Red Macomb's would of spent the money Mike Tice would of taken us to a Super Bowl I believe.
I like how after talking about the MMA intersection, they switch to some music used in the first part of the "Fighting in the Age of Loneliness" series. Nice touch.
In the 2009 NFC Championship Game, the Vikings outgain the Saints 475-217 in regulation, but can only manage a 28-28 tie, due to losing the turnover battle 5-1. Extra note (and nod to the 2010 Chargers Dorktown episode): the Saints did have a 61 kickoff return on special teams that assisted in one of their touchdown drives.
Funny you mention turnovers costing us the game, when one of them came off an uncalled high-low hit on Farve. AKA the "Tom Brady" rule. The entire game was like that. The Saints got phantom flags, first down spots when the ball was fumbled behind the line of scrimmage, and the refs swallowed their whistles after wildly blatant dirty illegal hits. Just say you're a Saints fan. You're not fooling anyone. You losers are the ONLY people still trying to say the Vikings lost the game.
God do I miss Daunte Culpepper. He was so much fun to watch. He is the one guy wish stayed healthy his entire career. I truly feel even after watching this video could have had a legit shot to a hof induction
@@LoganLS0 So what I'm hearing is that the Vikings fans have a vested interest in making sure they can have a bag of popcorn and chair to all the antics/lows that the falcons/saints rivalry brings out of each other if they don't have to deal with GB in the immediate future.
As a Dolphins fan, I love the chart at 36:59. It has plenty of seasons from the 2000's and 2010's... four form the 2020's already... and Dan Marino, in 1984, all by himself for almost two decades.
This series is just incredible. The constant oh dang it from the 2000s years is just hilarious. It really does seem like the owner held these teams back. I mean it’s hard not to win with such a talented offensive unit.
- 2000 SB Champions Ravens coached by former vikings offensive coordinator Brian Billick - 2002 SB Champion Bucs won with former Vikings QB Brad Johnson
I was in the stands for the 03 Vikings-Cardinals game! Since we were so bad that year, the stadium was 90% purple. One of the most surreal live sports events ever, imo.
God, there is a LOT to unpack in the 2000s: 41-Dount, as well as the fallout (Brian Billick, former Vikings OC, winning the Super Bowl with one of the best defenses of all time. And doing so by dismantling the same Giants offense that humiliated the Vikings two weeks earlier. Which must mean that OC must be a scrub; no way HE'LL be a qualityhead coach) 2001: Korey Stringer's tragic death in training camp, as well as being the only team to lose to the 1-15 Panthers That one 2002 Sunday Night bgame where they give up 28 points in 2 minutes against Seattle 2003. Less said the better 2004 Wild cards where Moss moons Lambeau, then half-asses a trick play one week later in Philly, which is the end of the road for him in Minnesota 2005 with the Love Boat and Culpepper becoming the victim of TWO football video game cover curses (he was on the cover of both Madden 2002 AND Backyard Football 2006) The return of Brad Johnson and the arrival of All Day Finally, the triumph and tragedy of the 2009 season. Favre's Last Hurrah. And is that...that jabroni OC from the 2000 NFCCG? What's he doing on the opposite sideline?
Hell, I hope they include a side bar this episode for Randy Moss's 2007 season with the Pats, another example of Moss stepping onto a team and immediately shattering expectations of what a star WR is even capable of, breaking the NFL record for touchdowns received in the course of a perfect 16-0 regular season... just to lose it all in the end. Once a Vike, always a Vike.
@@NarokkuraiI’m not going to claim to be forsaken by the football gods getting to grow up as a Pats fan right in the prime of the Brady era but that Super Bowl was one of my fundamental childhood traumas as a seven year old. Still, Brady and Moss really were a match made in heaven.
This is an Alex Rubenstein appreciation post. Between his highlight reel of Korey Stringer, and how he called the 2009 Championship Game, dude absolutely killed it this episode. Dorktown wouldn't be the same without him. This concludes my Alex Rubenstein appreciation post.
This was undoubtably one of the best single parts of any dorktown series ever. This video legit had EVERYTHING, had me experiencing every emotion. Covering the odds that Culpepper and AD had to overcome flawlessly. The Stringer story and highlight reel. Closing off the episode with "I know its late.... but uh wanna hear a story?" before delving into the Brett Favre retirement drama was cinema.
I usually listen to these episodes like a podcast at work, but I love Chart Party enough that occasionally if there’s a chart or play fascinating enough, I’ll stop what I’m doing and watch. When you guys said “we thought about what we could add to this, and we decided to give an offensive lineman the thing they get least often - a highlight reel” - I paused and listened to a different podcast because I wanted to wait and finish this when I could watch Korey Stringer’s highlight reel myself. Secret Base is my favorite RUclips channel - and since long before it became Secret Base, Jon Bois has been my favorite presenter on RUclips. Never count out Touchdown Jon.
I actually live for these series. All of them. The falcons. The mariners. Whichever one comes next. It’s genius. I know what’s about to happen. It doesn’t matter. Somehow, the way that 41-0, randy moss “mooning”, the Brett Favre interception, all are presented in a way im just entertained. It’s amazing.
If you are starting to get numb, that isn't our winter cold, its our hearts from years of what non-Vikes fan's are now learning about. Minnesota Nice is a cover for the damaged souls we harbor within.
I remember watching the History of the Seattle Mariners and being moved my Jon's line in the 5th or 6th episode when he said "you don't like the Seattle Mariners because they're winners: you like them because they're the protagonists." I was moved by that line three years ago because i thought in that moment that I've always felt that way about my home team, the Minnesota Vikings. Jon confirmed my feelings about it in this episode, and through all of the ups and downs, I'm so happy the Dorktown guys have taken the time to tell the stories of my favorite storytellers since I was a kid. Thanks, guys.
I am a loving, forgiving person, the depths of patience stirring in my heart yet to be bested. . . . I cannot and will not ever forgive or forget watching that Vikings Saints game live.
I'm a Giants fan, so I loved watching the bit on the 2000 NFC title game. To go from that to the Korey Stringer section was a drastic shift in emotion. Beautifully done, fellas. RIP Korey.
Something always felt wrokg watching the Saints in the 2009 playoffs. Against the Cardinals, they had a lot of hits on Warner that were juuuust a lil too dirty as I recall
The 2000s were my formative years as a Vikings fan so my opinion may be a little skewed, but this decade was without a doubt the most psychologically damaging of any team ever arguably.
I must be a few years older than you. Without a doubt, 1998 is the most psychologically damaging. That 2009 game is the runner up though. This series has helped me relive all the memories, the sweet and the bitter. Maybe someday things will end differently.
@@zwillshoes 1998 was my first year watching the Vikes lol so I agree that was far and away the most heart wrenching. As a whole though - the 2000s began with 41-doughnut, to Korey Stringer, to 2003 collapse, to Love Boat, etc. etc. and capped off with Bountygate/Favre across his body. That amount of whiplash can destroy a fanbase’s psyche 😂 😭
My Dad keeps telling me that my choice of sports teams (including the Vikes) has definitly contributed to my pessimistic out look at live lol@@isaacs3822
I cant even begin to explain how well made this series is. Aside from making me fall in love with the minnesota vikings (im not a major nfl fan but I do support the ravens) it has made me care about all the characters as if this was like a tv show. I swear to god I searched up bud grant a few days ago after already finishing the 60's, 70's, and 80's videos. And when I saw that he had passed a few tears formed in my eyes bc of the admiration for his character this series had built in me 😂😂😂😂
14:26 if the man was named Korey Stringer, then the violin was the coffin he was placed in. And just like a Stradivarius, how glorious the sound he made when he was played.
This is why I watch Jon's output, because, to quote Jon himself from an earlier video, this is how you learn who your heroes are. I've never been a Vikings fan, unless you count when I was in middle and high school, because our district's teams, and thus on the wrestling team I was, called the Vikings. That's probably why I never heard about Korey Stringer until today. But, I'm glad I did. Sounds like one of those just... pure souls that someone upstairs unfortunately wanted back far too soon... but the highlight reel was a fitting tribute for a man you didn't know any more than I did.
Culpepper in 2004 had a combined 5123 passing + rushing yards, which at the time set a new NFL record for a single season (surpassing Dan Marino in 1984), but this fact flew completely under the radar and he received no recognition or publicity at all for this feat.
Man that music cue that plays every time something terrible happens for the Vikings is just so good it’s hilarious but sad all at the same time lol I love Jon and Alex so much for what they do
Now that that’s over with, a preview of things I project will be in the finale on Friday: 2010: - Metrodome collapses from snow before game vs. NYG - Favre ends the consecutive games start streak in an arena where he’s tortured the home team of that arena for years: Ford Field, home of the Detroit Lions. - Favre calls it a career after brutal hits that knock him unconscious in a game vs. CHI at TCF Bank stadium. 2011: - Pick up McNabb on his swan song. - Adrian Peterson’s season gets cut short week 16. 2012: - Same Adrian Peterson wins CPOTY, rushing for over 2,000 yards. - Lose a largely uncompetitive playoff game at GB. 2013: - Wild back and forth at BAL in the final few minutes. - Final season at the Metrodome. 2014: - Staying a couple years at TCF Bank Stadium. - Adrian Peterson wins FOTY. 2015: - AP leads a largely improved Vikings team (especially on defense). - Win the NFC Norris for the first time since 2009. Face the Seahawks coming off their own humiliating loss the year prior in the Super Bowl. - Oh, look! Bud Grant is back! Why is he wearing a short sleeve shirt? IT’S -6 DEGREES OUT WITH A -25 DEGREE WINDCHILL? Ah well, he’ll keep those Viking fan hearts warm. - Not warm enough apparently as THE SEASON CAN’T END LIKE THAT! HE MISSED IT LEFT! 2016: - Open U.S. Bank stadium, friendly for birds! - Start out 5-0, collapse to 8-8. 2017: - QB problems? Nah, this defense will carry the day (especially on 3rd downs), leading to a 13-3 record and a first round bye. - Get revenge on NO from 2009. DIGGS. SIDELINE. TOUCHDOWN. UNBELIEVABLE. - Possibility of being first team to play in a home Super Bowl gets vanquished at, well, THE LINC! 2018: - Start of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota. - Season largely uneventful other than Anthony Barr getting hurdled by some QB named Josh Allen. - Finish 8-7-1. 2019: - Year 2 of the Kirk Cousins era is a little more success in a playoff berth at the house of horrors experienced at the start of this decade in NO. - Remember the revenge from 2017? Appetizer as Kyle Rudolph Mosses a Saints player in the end zone to give the Vikings the win over a 13-3 Saints team that lost possible home field and a bye losing to the 49ers. - That same 49er team desecrates a tired and emotional Vikings team. 2020-21: - Largely uneventful 2022: - 13-4 - Negative point differential (-3) - double doink win vs. NO - Justin Jefferson’s OBJ catch at BUF - Largest comeback in NFL history (33-0) vs. IND (Hi, Matt Ryan!) - Such a dramatic season ends vs the most boring team in the NY Giants (remember them?) with a check down from Kirk to TJ Hockenson getting nowhere closer to the first down marker. Let me know if I’ve forgotten some details (Lord knows I did), and what you expect!
I wish they had time to talk about Jared Allen. My dad and I still laugh about that one journalist who compared the trade for him to the Herschel Walker trade.
Two things: - When I was growing up I figured Culpepper had to be one of the greatest QBs of all time, and as I got older I was surprised he didn't have nearly as long a career as I remembered. Love seeing him get some love. - Now we know Favre and AP aren't exactly saints (heh) either, but god I wish they'd won that 2009 NFCCG.
Best RUclips series ever. For me it’s between the falcons one and this but as a falcons fan that super bowl episode hits a bit too close to home so I’ve never rewatched it😂😂 but yeah Jon and Alex your both absolute legends thank you so much for this
Having watched this retrospective since the first episode, it's honestly staggering to see all the incredible players that have played for this franchise. All these All-Pros, Pro Bowlers, and Hall of Famers over the decades.... And no rings to show for any of it. None of them could bring it home.
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Fun fact: 2003 is the only NFL season ever in which every team won at least 4 games.
4 teams shared the bottom spot at 4-12: Giants, Raiders, Chargers, Cardinals.
And guess what? The 9-7 Vikings, who started 6-0, *lost to all four.*
That's the kind of esoteric and seemingly impossible but somehow relevant data that belongs in one of these videos.
Incredible
The Vikings also played 6 playoff teams in 2003 and went 4-2 against those teams. Insane lol
Those cards should have been at best 1 an 15 trust me I watched
@@ethanniedorowski116Is it the sign of a “down” year that the 03 Cardinals won four games?
FACTS!!!! If they won two or three of those games, they would finish either 11-5 or 12-4.
“… a highlight reel.” Damn, that made me tear up. A beautiful moment.
So many great lineman in the storied history of the game have never received such a simple thing as recognition for their effort + skill. It truly was the most fitting gift to give
@@dukexnukemx4189 I was an offensive lineman, so was my brother, and we followed in my father’s footsteps on the line. When we watch games together we give those truly great blocks the replays they never get. This series has spent many moments celebrating those less celebrated positions, but that moment was the highlight
I cried like a baby during that reel
@@commandercalxsccx4531I smiled for him being remembered beautifully..
I cried when he passed it was horrible is horrible
DONT TEAR UP@@mctheplaywright
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? THE SEASON CAN'T END LIKE THAT!!
THERE ARE VIKINGS CRYING ON THE FIELD
THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN, THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL!!
That’s 2010s but I know the call you’re trying to reference
@@nathanmcguire932 It was the playoffs following the 2009 season though, I'm sure they will include it in the 2000's decade. It wouldn't be like them to end the video with "yeah, 12-4 season there in 2009, some questions remain after a shaky few games near the end of the year but this was the contender the Vikings have been looking for since 1998, what will happen? Find out next time!"
Actually, that was Paul Allen’s call at the end of the Cardinals game in 2003.
Finally the Paul Allen years.
THIS IS NOT DETROIT, MAN, THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL!
But, why do you even PONDER PASSING??
WHY DONT YOU TAKE A KNEE, AND TRY A 50 YARD FIELD GOAL!?
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Fuck the Taints.
@@johnw2146 I was gonna say "Why do you [Christian] Ponder passing," but I forget, he's the guy AFTER Favre, not immediately before him.
The deep dive into that traffic incident may just be some of the best content ever on this channel.
The dramatic music just for incident to be two people being stupid is hilarious
He's broken a law and ignored a direct order, but if he makes the turn, he doesn't endanger anybody. Take his plates and fine him appropriately, twice. Don't *jump on his car*!
It reminds me of when the entire Seattle Mariners outfield vomited all at once
@@thedude3065 And when Michael Jordan got in shit for wearing cargo shorts on the golf course
It was like the Zapruder film
He got so serious 😂
working your way to what's shaping up to be a legendary and incredibly lucrative football career and then going "ehh. honestly football's pretty boring, i'm gonna go do stuff i actually like" is some all-time king shit
From the bottom of my heart I hope that guy is living his best life. A real role model.
@@DetectiveOlivawI think he eventually struggled with alcoholism for several years.
@@thetruthinwonderland your use of past tense implies either a very positive or very negative outcome to that struggle
I had nothing but respect for him for doing that. Made his money and wanted to spend the rest of his life doing big brain stuff he enjoys.
Sigma male
I think what makes these Secret Base documentaries so special is how much they humanize the people in the story. And I really felt that on that Korey Stringer tribute
I would love to see what they could do if they got ESPN money to make these, they're incredible as is and I'm a Packers fan who doesn't watch baseball or UFC. They're just so full of interesting stories and perfectly narrated.
I'm tearing up rn
my favorite part is when he excuses Rand Moss’s beating of a white kid because he’s white (also known as a hate crime) as a “mistake”
@@randomkyle3he didn't say it was okay, he said that randy made a dumb decision he regretted in a heated moment
@@theblackwidow3401 he said it was a “mistake”, you and a group of your friends going and beating up a kid because he is a different race than you is not a “mistake” it’s a hate crime.
the $100,000 fine just hanging out for the second half of the episode is comedic as hell. i love seeing it pass by.
One of the great parts of these stories as they tell them is seeing everything in the background as they tell it
I'm not a Vikes fan, I'm a mailman in Buffalo New York. But that Korey Stringer story... I'm convinced his passing and his wife's efforts helped organizations not just in football but like mine to recognize the dangers of heat illness. Since its 90 degrees this week in September in Buffalo of all places, he has nothing less than my eternal graditude.
I deliver for Amazon in Daytona. I definitely pulled from it as well. Notes hitting close to home.
Yup
I remember the Corey Stringer story. We live in Minnesota, and that summer, we were putting a new roof on the house. Hearing the story of a guy dying from the heat, while us teenagers were working outside in the heat every day, scared us straight to listen to our parents to stay hydrated and safe. The highlight reel is the least that can be done for a guy like that, who never got the spotlight.
Korey*
Yeah, I had a Vikings calendar for that year, and by coincidence, Korey Stringer was the picture for the month of August. I only realized it a couple years later I think
Thanks for really covering how bad Favre is destroyed in the championship game. A lot of Saints fans/players like to say that every team did the bounty thing, but the Saints definitely took it to another level.
It was truly horrendous...THAT THE REFS JUST LET IT HAPPEN. Like of all the things from that game, the thing that gets me most as a Saints fan was the refs swallowing their whistle and leaving their flags alone. They didn't see that as too brutal?
it was criminal. They kept destroying him well after the ball was out, inexplicable no calls. That should have been Favre’s second ring.
They really didn't. The NFL inflated the outrage of Bountygate to shield them from very real player safety issues. All of the player suspensions were over turned because the NFL had flimsy to non existent real evidence. Not to mention the Saints were among the bottom of the league in Personal Foul Penalties and Injuries against opposing players in that time frame. The Saints committed some mild Cap violations because tiny amounts of money did change hands, but what the Saints did was really not fundamentally different than helmet stickers for defensive players in college football. And yes most teams had locker rooms where small pools of money were put together by players and coaches to award big plays.
They happily accepted roughing the passer penalty’s/unnecessary roughness penalty’s because they knew it would pay dividends to have Favre broken and concussed in the second half. To this day I’ve never seen a team more merciless in their zeal to injure the opposition
@JonWeilbaecher The narrative on this game really bothers me and always has. This game was not only two+ years before the Bountygate revelations, it was three years before League of Denial was published and the massive concussion lawsuit got rolling. It's a good thing that our eyes were opened in the way they were but it has completely warped our perception of history. Go back and watch some games from the late 2000s and you'll see that what the Saints did (ON the field, at least) was not out of the ordinary at all. Of all the hits shown in this video, only the high-low shot late in the third quarter should have drawn a flag and didn't. All of those first half hits were legal at the time. Kurt Warner got obliterated on a hit worse than any Favre took in this game just *ONE WEEK PRIOR*. No flag. The rules making those hits illegal were passed years after this game, when the NFL finally was forced to start covering its ass.
I get that the hosts here have a narrative to spin, but it really bothers me when this game is subject to such brazen revisionism.
Things to expect in this episode…
- Daunte Culpepper
- Missing the draft pick (twice)
- Vikings vs Cardinals Week 17 2003
- “Straight cash homie!”
- Troy Williamson (pain)
- The infamous “Love Boat”
- Adrian Peterson
- “THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL!!!”
Don't forget "That was a _disgusting_ act by Randy Moss!"
All crazy things! And also the original whizzinator, poor Korey Stringer, 41 donut, and the Lambeau Mooning.
Don’t forget THE BEAST INCARNATE
cant believe they forgot williamson, also surprised dimitrius underwood wasn’t mentioned at all
also Super bowl 41 champion, Prince
I’m slowly starting to think that this might be Jon and Alex’s best series yet.
I feel like the mariners and dave stieb ones were better but like its jon bois. Anything he makes can only be surpassed by himself
@@doruka890the falcons series was my favourite, but i think it helps that i went in knowing nothing about football and left with second-hand trauma
@@doruka890I loved the Mariners one the most too. I think it's because of how mystical it is (I don't watch baseball that much) so I didn't really know what was going to happen. For the Falcons I already knew about 51 and the Vikings doc was teased off from the Falcons to begin with. Also the Mariners just felt cool and looked cool.
We say that every time, no?
That said, it's gonna take A LOT to replace the realtime plane crash into the stands.
@@kai615k awesome description
2000s Vikings: “One step forward, three steps back.”
They took a couple steps backward in the middle of the decade in particular, and ended the decade the same way they began it:
With a season that ended in losing the NFC Championship Game.
The Minnesota Vikings Are The 📼 That’s Inside The Rewinder Always Hitting The ⏪ Button Over & Over & Over & Over & Over & Over Again! 🔁 💔😢😭💔
22:00 aw, dang it #1
23:27 aw, dang it #2
26:21 aw, dang it #3
37:26 aw, dang it #4
52:38 aw, dang it #5
53:17 aw, dang it #6
1:39:20 aw, dang it #7
i really need to find the song that sting is from
@@guzooka1style city - keith mansfield
It's style city (D) to be specific
Missed 56:22
LET'S GO FOR THE SUPER BOWL
Aw dang it
The only thing greater than a SB win is a Jon Bois masterpiece
Amen.
That being said, anyone else need a stiff drink and cigarette after this one?
Bills fan here. Fuk that, I need a win before we get one of these.
I really want a Browns one next. Pre-2000s Browns seem like an interesting team enough on its own, and post-2000s Browns is hell entirely
As a vikings fan, I wouldn't know
OMG the Prince winning the SB line. I truly laughed out loud for the first time in days.
Same 😂
bud grant saying "same price baby" is the most important fact of this entire series
same energy as "straight cash homie"
god i would have loved bud grant and randy moss together
@@defeatstatistics7413 they would have LOVED each other
@@dccalling5960 they did both love hunting and fishing. i think the two of them would've got along swimmingly
Robert Smiths 'im just not much of a football fan' statement as a reason for retirement might be the most honest admission by any athlete ever. Hilarious and legendary
I'm waiting for Nikola jokic to retire in his prime with 3 MVPs in 4 years and a NBA championship and say the same thing
@@AndrewJW more time for horses
I feel like "Aw, dang it" should have just been the title for this entire series, not just this episode. It perfectly encapsulates what it's like to be a Vikings fan.
A lot of good solid teams, but unfortunately no championships
BUMMMMM BUMMMM BA BUMMMMMM (waaaaaa waaaaaaa waaaaaaa)
Rest In Peace korey, your loss has paved the way for much needed education and improvements in technology on the subject of heatstroke
Rest easy big guy
I know a lot has to hit the cutting room floor, but really wish the throw from Favre to Greg Lewis to beat the 49ers early in the 2009 season was mentioned. I don't think anyone really believed the Vikings/Favre pairing could work (as a Vikings fan) until that very moment, since he'd thrown for less than 300 combined yards in the first two games against Detroit and Cleveland. It's one of the greatest plays I've ever seen, only to be topped by something coming in the next episode
100% agree. That moment was the "holy crap, this is going to work," moment that season. Made me believe and is an indelible memory.
Two plays coming in the next episode
@@WildFan-sp3lu I was watching the end of that game with some friends in the clubhouse after a round of golf. The phrase "guess he earned the $12 million" was the general consensus after that throw. Thought Lewis deserves more credit than Favre imo.
Yes! That was the moment, like Oh shit, he's still got the stuff!
That was the moment I knew I was wrong about Farve not being the guy.
"Congratulations to the New Engla-oh, sorry, the New York Giants"
Ouch, Jon. 15 years later and that super bowl still haunts me on a deep and spiritual level.
Wasn't expecting a glowing review of Prince's halftime show but glad it was in here. It's one of the greatest live music performances of all time and more people need to see it.
Minnesota legend
I try to explain to people what that was like to watch, even for rooms full of folks who weren’t Prince fans. Everyone just stopped and watched in awe.
He started covering Jimi, and even I was like “oh man, I’m not sure you should try to live up to That”… and then a minute later I was like “ohhhhhh jesus christ. ok. sorry. I get it now”
and he played Purple Rain, and it rained.
RIP purple man
also lol at “Congratulations to Prince for winning Superbowl 41, his first Superbowl win!” 😅
I'm a Bears fan who had roughly 45 seconds of fun during that entire game, but man you could just tell in the moment that that Prince performance was going to go down in history. Legend has it that NFL personnel told him before his performance that it's starting to rain pretty hard and he might not be able to perform, and Prince responded by asking if there was any way they could make it rain even more. Unbeatable legend of a man.
Its not often a concert can be called a "once in a lifetime" event and live up to it, but that show did. A hundred plus million people got to watch the coda of Purple Rain played by an incredible showman in the actual rain. The literal elements were on his side for a spectacle.
Vikings fan since 1968. Man, these are PAINFUL. But they're extremely well done. My wife has been watching with me, not knowing any of the history. She has wondered aloud why I continue to support a team that has busted my heart so many times over the years. I smiled at her and said, "Not every obsession I have is as good for me as you are."
Jon Bois got me laid.
Jon Bois did an amazing job. But that line is the smoothest thing I have ever heard. Big if true.
Definitely writing that line down for the future.
@@ephemispriest8069 Oh, it's true. And feel free to steal if the occasion arises. :)
@@oklanime I hope it's useful.
I love Jon's delivery. The Mike Tice's son and Super Bowl 42 reads made me laugh out loud.
Also... I remember Breaking Madden, the Ole Gunslinger takes his records back from Peyton. Jon's reading here of resenting Brett Favre later... Jon's usually so reserved, so much like his character Beeftank of seeing the good in people, and that one line...
I love Jon's delivery.
as a long time Vikings fan, the Korey Stringer highlight reel brought tears to my eyes. He was on his game when I was forming team loyalties in high school and loosing him sucked. So glad to see some recognition.
The ‘09 NFC Championship game was one of my first memories as a Vikings fan. What an insane heartbreak
Other than the Farve INT, I don’t think I’ve watched a clip of that game since that day.
I completely forgot about the 12 men on the field before that play and when they slow it down didn’t even realize Farve had room to run for maybe 3-4 yards
As a Jets fan, I share that pain. Knowing that would have been the 2nd time both of us saw our teams experience conference championship heartbreak
All I remember is my dad giving a thousand yard stare into the tv.
Getting cheated like that was the worst playoff loss we've had.
@@JWex-jy7sk: he also could h have thrown to Visanthe Shiancoe and gotten just about 5 yards back.
You know we’re in trouble when the “Awful sanitation at Sicks Stadium” and “Pilots leave Seattle” music come out in quick succession
I need to know the songs in these videos. That 4-note start to what I refer to as the "sad music" lives rent free in my head and is my red balloon. Everytime I hear it I'm instantly sad.
ruclips.net/video/cCJ0ZtKZtKk/видео.htmlsi=dOZN3zYrUlFxIgZI t'was this!
@@dustymauveThe "sad" song is called "Style City" by Keith Mansfield. The ominous one is called "L'espace Temps" by Bernard Parmegiani
Almost two hours, and still no time for the poison pill shenanigans and barely a glimpse of Jared Allen, an all time great character. What a wild decade.
tbh wish they covered Allen more
@@salvatore_slate me too. as a bears fan, he was always my favorite vike. 9 year old me really got a kick out of his cow roping celebration lol
As a life long Vikings fan, this one was the most painful for me. Nothing tops the 09 playoff game against the Saints. I was physically in pain watching Favre get hit like that. Then they go on to win the SB... 98 takes 2nd place as it was crushing but not dirty.
i was a dipshit 6 year old pretending to be funny by saying "go saints" to my mom not knowing any better. to this day idk how she didnt lay a finger on me or leave me on the side of the road.
i guessed i was punished by ending up choosing the vikings instead of my dads broncos
I was five at the time and I still have a extremely vivid memory on everything that happened
I kept shouting after the hit where Favre threw the pick to Vilma. The Vikings ultimately cost themselves the game with all their turnovers, but had the Saints not had a bounty on Favre, maybe Favre doesn’t throw that pick to Tracy Porter in the fourth quarter.
Losing to the Falcons is just embarrassing. It happens.
Losing to a team that is breaking the rules on purpose is bad enough. Losing to a team whose rule-breaking is designed to injure players…rage.
Takes some monumentally shit behavior to make me feel this kind of sympathy for Brett Favre in 2023.
I watched the game at a local biker bar, because they offered free purple shots every time The Vikings scored a touchdown. They actually handed shots out to everyone At the Goal line at the end of the first half, when we were fixing to punch it in..... I still remember the bar keeper throwing her hands in the air, sighing, and grumbling "just.......take your shots". Quietest bar I'd ever heard. Well, quietest until the throw across the body
As a massive NFL fan who came of age in the aughts, I knew most of these names and a lot of these stories. And Alex’s tiny little foreshadowing moments, there were several of them, were absolutely brilliant.
I think I knew the name Korey Stringer but pretty much nothing else about him, but that highlight reel memorial damn near made me cry.
Musically, every time something shitty happens from now on I’m going to hear the “Aw dang it” motif. And FUCK YEAH THE SAINTS SAX CAME BACK.
Can’t wait to wrap it all up on Friday!
🎷🎶
This is like the Secret Base Infinity War. We have crossovers with Rewind, Pretty Good, History of the Falcons, and so much more.
It even has THAT punt, though they kind of gloss it over.
The 2003 draft debacle was also covered in an episode of weird rules
Every time I think you guys can't surprise me any further, you provide a Korey Stringer highlight reel as a tribute to his life and legacy, and you stun me even further with your sincerity and love.
I was born in 1987, and these Vikings were my everything... until that buzzer-beating loss to the Cardinals. I remember being in my basement, furious tears in my eyes as I ripped my shirt to pieces so I didn't destroy something and get yelled at by my mom. That was the start of the end, finally severing my fandom once Moss left. I have never attempted to claim a team since because I was utterly broken by this franchise. To this day, I love sports but have never left myself vulnerable enough to have a rooting interest. I've been terrified of watching this specific episode because of the trauma - but I did find this healing. Thank you so much, Jon and Alex. This series is a height and I will watch or read anything you ever touch.
You know that part in Jon's "Pretty Good: NO!!!!!!" where he addresses the viewers and says, "We both know exactly what is going to happen...I know that you know..."?
We're getting into the era that I started to really follow the NFL, and I knew exactly how this episode would end after seeing the title. I hope you weren't lonely making the video Jon.
Went to high school and played a year of basketball with Dante Culpepper's oldest sons. He's really present in the community but unless you watched football, you'd never know what he was up to 20 years ago because he just... doesn't talk about it. One of the most down-to-earth, family oriented guys you'll ever meet. He took time to talk to all of us personally on multiple occasions. He's just there to be a dad.
My cousin lived next door to him when he played for the Vikes back in the day. Said he was a hell of a nice guy, used to toss the ball around with neighborhood kids.
That Korey Stringer tribute was incredible. I'd never seen him play before this moment, but he made some awesome blocks. I just wish he could still be around today to see this appreciation.
Rest in Peace Korey Stringer.
And now I'm going to give you an offensive joke for that player.
If Korey stringer was the man, then his coffin was the violin, and death the one who played it.
The moment I hear "Urban Saxman" at 1:26:14 just hits in a way I don't know how to describe. It's like you've been waiting for it the entire episode and it hits at maybe the most emotionally crushing part. Like you *know* what's about to happen even though it hasn't "happened" yet
I know I’ve already said this before, but I’ve gotta say it again. Jon Bois & Alex Rubinstein are truly great at crafting Dorktown masterpieces. But one thing I’ll add is this. Considering all the craziness surrounding the Minnesota Vikings in the 2000s, I find it utterly amazing that they were even NFL postseason contenders in the first place. Mind-boggling stuff…
The writing and delivery for 1:21:50-1:23:07 is simply fantastic. That one segment will live rent free in my head just like the surprise Ricky Henderson documentary in the Dave Steib series. Wonderful work
I love the "ah dang it" and sound of sadness and hurt everytime they say it lol
The crazy thing about the vikings that jon points out is how the vikings have never really rebuilt. They never tear it down.
The Korey Stringer highlight reel was amazing!
that was a pretty great move telling us to stop watching for the prince show. was too young to watch it, legendary
Prince winning SB XLI was an hilarious rug-pull! Everything you guys are doing is more amazing than any 30for30 or any sports doc (Last Dance included)
As a younger fan that 2009 season has a special sting. An introduction to an unimaginable amount of bad luck and painful endings. Skol to the rest of the fans and just one before we die.
I remember it clear as day and I would’ve been 8. Had a crazy blizzard that left us without power for a week. I remember hearing every second of that game through Paul Allen’s voice on a battery powered radio in our basement. Crushing.
As a forty year old I have to admit that one is the most infuriating. I've seen the chokes, the heartbreakers, but that is the only time we have been absolutely cheated.
Loved the cameo by Ryan Longwell, the Jon Bois extended universe never disappoints
And a Bob, and the second telling of the Vikes-Pack '04 game
All I want to say is this is the BEST SERIES I HAVE EVER WATCHED!!!! GREAT JOB!!!!! I LOVE MY VIKINGS even with all the ups and downs, but as you have showed they are a great Franchise!!
SCOL VIKINGS!!!! I love all the graphics and pictures with the newspaper clippings!! If Red Macomb's would of spent the money Mike Tice would of taken us to a Super Bowl I believe.
Oh good now we're into where my memories have started forming and I'm getting hazy memories from back around the mid to late 2000s.
I like how after talking about the MMA intersection, they switch to some music used in the first part of the "Fighting in the Age of Loneliness" series. Nice touch.
I had forgotten about Korey Stringer. What a great tribute to an unsung player.
Prince absolutely won that SB and I am so happy it is finally recognized as such
In the 2009 NFC Championship Game, the Vikings outgain the Saints 475-217 in regulation, but can only manage a 28-28 tie, due to losing the turnover battle 5-1.
Extra note (and nod to the 2010 Chargers Dorktown episode): the Saints did have a 61 kickoff return on special teams that assisted in one of their touchdown drives.
Funny you mention turnovers costing us the game, when one of them came off an uncalled high-low hit on Farve. AKA the "Tom Brady" rule. The entire game was like that. The Saints got phantom flags, first down spots when the ball was fumbled behind the line of scrimmage, and the refs swallowed their whistles after wildly blatant dirty illegal hits.
Just say you're a Saints fan. You're not fooling anyone. You losers are the ONLY people still trying to say the Vikings lost the game.
This series on the vikings has been so good! This is what makes SBN great!!
God do I miss Daunte Culpepper. He was so much fun to watch. He is the one guy wish stayed healthy his entire career. I truly feel even after watching this video could have had a legit shot to a hof induction
He was an awesome freak of nature and then he tore up his knee against the Panthers I think and sadly was never the same after that
As a Vikings fan in that era, his fumbles blinded me to how good he was. To this day how he fumbled as much as he did is a mystery.
Great job bringing out the dramatic "Adrian Beltre takes a line drive to the balls" music for the Moss traffic incident.
2003 loss to the Cardinals happened when I was 7. It was the first time the Vikings made me cry, but not the last.
At least you were a little too young to witness the '98 NFC Championship game.
@@samborgensjr6456 I probably witnessed it, but I don't remember it. I inherited my Dad's palpable hatred for the Falcons via osmosis.
@@LoganLS0 As a Saints fan, your dad is cool. :D
@@LoganLS0 So what I'm hearing is that the Vikings fans have a vested interest in making sure they can have a bag of popcorn and chair to all the antics/lows that the falcons/saints rivalry brings out of each other if they don't have to deal with GB in the immediate future.
@@samborgensjr6456 I hate you people on my own grounds.
As a Dolphins fan, I love the chart at 36:59. It has plenty of seasons from the 2000's and 2010's... four form the 2020's already... and Dan Marino, in 1984, all by himself for almost two decades.
As a Deshaun Watson hater I also love this chart
I don't follow American football. Later in the chart, with 4 wins - who's THAT?!
@@RobertJW Well, it could be Joe Burrow with the Bengals, but I believe it's Deshaun Watson with the Texans.
As much credit as Moss and Carter rightly get for the Vikings of that era's success, Robert Smith has always been one of my all time favorite Vikings
This series is just incredible. The constant oh dang it from the 2000s years is just hilarious. It really does seem like the owner held these teams back. I mean it’s hard not to win with such a talented offensive unit.
"Congratulations to the New Engl... Congratulations to the New York Giants!"😂😂😂
- 2000 SB Champions Ravens coached by former vikings offensive coordinator Brian Billick
- 2002 SB Champion Bucs won with former Vikings QB Brad Johnson
You can also add the 2008 Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers, coached by former Vikings defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin
Ah yes, Prince winning his first superbowl. What a performance.
I was in the stands for the 03 Vikings-Cardinals game! Since we were so bad that year, the stadium was 90% purple. One of the most surreal live sports events ever, imo.
God, there is a LOT to unpack in the 2000s:
41-Dount, as well as the fallout (Brian Billick, former Vikings OC, winning the Super Bowl with one of the best defenses of all time. And doing so by dismantling the same Giants offense that humiliated the Vikings two weeks earlier. Which must mean that OC must be a scrub; no way HE'LL be a qualityhead coach)
2001: Korey Stringer's tragic death in training camp, as well as being the only team to lose to the 1-15 Panthers
That one 2002 Sunday Night bgame where they give up 28 points in 2 minutes against Seattle
2003. Less said the better
2004 Wild cards where Moss moons Lambeau, then half-asses a trick play one week later in Philly, which is the end of the road for him in Minnesota
2005 with the Love Boat and Culpepper becoming the victim of TWO football video game cover curses (he was on the cover of both Madden 2002 AND Backyard Football 2006)
The return of Brad Johnson and the arrival of All Day
Finally, the triumph and tragedy of the 2009 season. Favre's Last Hurrah. And is that...that jabroni OC from the 2000 NFCCG? What's he doing on the opposite sideline?
This doesnt even mention the first round pick debacles in consecutive years or the "Saddest Punt in the World ™️".
God i cant wait
Hell, I hope they include a side bar this episode for Randy Moss's 2007 season with the Pats, another example of Moss stepping onto a team and immediately shattering expectations of what a star WR is even capable of, breaking the NFL record for touchdowns received in the course of a perfect 16-0 regular season... just to lose it all in the end.
Once a Vike, always a Vike.
Video game cover curses don't exist
You forgot something here and I got two words for you what it is…
Adrian Peterson! 🙌🏼
@@NarokkuraiI’m not going to claim to be forsaken by the football gods getting to grow up as a Pats fan right in the prime of the Brady era but that Super Bowl was one of my fundamental childhood traumas as a seven year old. Still, Brady and Moss really were a match made in heaven.
This is an Alex Rubenstein appreciation post. Between his highlight reel of Korey Stringer, and how he called the 2009 Championship Game, dude absolutely killed it this episode. Dorktown wouldn't be the same without him.
This concludes my Alex Rubenstein appreciation post.
I don't think I've ever heard an angrier Jon Bois than i heard in a couple minutes near the end of this thing
This was undoubtably one of the best single parts of any dorktown series ever. This video legit had EVERYTHING, had me experiencing every emotion. Covering the odds that Culpepper and AD had to overcome flawlessly. The Stringer story and highlight reel. Closing off the episode with "I know its late.... but uh wanna hear a story?" before delving into the Brett Favre retirement drama was cinema.
Somehow we missed out on "But why do you even ponder passing? This is not Detroit, man, this is the Super Bowl!"
It's a stupid fucking call that should be the LAST thing people remember about that crooked game.
@@ephemispriest8069 I disagree it's the most iconic call of the Vikings in the Farve era.
I usually listen to these episodes like a podcast at work, but I love Chart Party enough that occasionally if there’s a chart or play fascinating enough, I’ll stop what I’m doing and watch.
When you guys said “we thought about what we could add to this, and we decided to give an offensive lineman the thing they get least often - a highlight reel” - I paused and listened to a different podcast because I wanted to wait and finish this when I could watch Korey Stringer’s highlight reel myself.
Secret Base is my favorite RUclips channel - and since long before it became Secret Base, Jon Bois has been my favorite presenter on RUclips.
Never count out Touchdown Jon.
“Congratulations to Prince.” 😂😂
I actually live for these series. All of them. The falcons. The mariners. Whichever one comes next. It’s genius. I know what’s about to happen. It doesn’t matter. Somehow, the way that 41-0, randy moss “mooning”, the Brett Favre interception, all are presented in a way im just entertained. It’s amazing.
If you are starting to get numb, that isn't our winter cold, its our hearts from years of what non-Vikes fan's are now learning about. Minnesota Nice is a cover for the damaged souls we harbor within.
you really did wait until the PERFECT moment to make that mike tyson joke that we were all making in our heads from the start
Culpepper and Moss is what made me become a Vikings Fan living in KY...Man was they exciting to watch.
I watched the entire 98 season at Gerstles bar in St Matthews. Watched later seasons there too with Pepper and Moss
I remember watching the History of the Seattle Mariners and being moved my Jon's line in the 5th or 6th episode when he said "you don't like the Seattle Mariners because they're winners: you like them because they're the protagonists."
I was moved by that line three years ago because i thought in that moment that I've always felt that way about my home team, the Minnesota Vikings.
Jon confirmed my feelings about it in this episode, and through all of the ups and downs, I'm so happy the Dorktown guys have taken the time to tell the stories of my favorite storytellers since I was a kid.
Thanks, guys.
37:22 for anyone wondering, the 4 win QB on that chart is DeShaun Watson with the 2020 Houston Texans
I am a loving, forgiving person, the depths of patience stirring in my heart yet to be bested.
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I cannot and will not ever forgive or forget watching that Vikings Saints game live.
Me either. FTS
I'm a Giants fan, so I loved watching the bit on the 2000 NFC title game. To go from that to the Korey Stringer section was a drastic shift in emotion. Beautifully done, fellas. RIP Korey.
Alex: I found another music sting we could use when embarrassing stuff happens.
Jon: I'm good.
I had to pause to applaud loudly by myself at 12:00 am, like, and comment for Prince's historic super bowl win. one of the greats of all time.
Something always felt wrokg watching the Saints in the 2009 playoffs. Against the Cardinals, they had a lot of hits on Warner that were juuuust a lil too dirty as I recall
You wouldn't be wrong. Warner was on the bounty list, too.
The 2000s were my formative years as a Vikings fan so my opinion may be a little skewed, but this decade was without a doubt the most psychologically damaging of any team ever
arguably.
I must be a few years older than you. Without a doubt, 1998 is the most psychologically damaging. That 2009 game is the runner up though. This series has helped me relive all the memories, the sweet and the bitter. Maybe someday things will end differently.
@@zwillshoes 1998 was my first year watching the Vikes lol so I agree that was far and away the most heart wrenching. As a whole though - the 2000s began with 41-doughnut, to Korey Stringer, to 2003 collapse, to Love Boat, etc. etc. and capped off with Bountygate/Favre across his body. That amount of whiplash can destroy a fanbase’s psyche 😂 😭
My Dad keeps telling me that my choice of sports teams (including the Vikes) has definitly contributed to my pessimistic out look at live lol@@isaacs3822
@Steveghvff Accurate. 😂
I cant even begin to explain how well made this series is. Aside from making me fall in love with the minnesota vikings (im not a major nfl fan but I do support the ravens) it has made me care about all the characters as if this was like a tv show. I swear to god I searched up bud grant a few days ago after already finishing the 60's, 70's, and 80's videos. And when I saw that he had passed a few tears formed in my eyes bc of the admiration for his character this series had built in me 😂😂😂😂
I love the old Pretty Good music in this episode.
I did go watch the prince half time show in the middle of this. completely worth it.
14:26 if the man was named Korey Stringer, then the violin was the coffin he was placed in. And just like a Stradivarius, how glorious the sound he made when he was played.
This is why I watch Jon's output, because, to quote Jon himself from an earlier video, this is how you learn who your heroes are. I've never been a Vikings fan, unless you count when I was in middle and high school, because our district's teams, and thus on the wrestling team I was, called the Vikings. That's probably why I never heard about Korey Stringer until today. But, I'm glad I did. Sounds like one of those just... pure souls that someone upstairs unfortunately wanted back far too soon... but the highlight reel was a fitting tribute for a man you didn't know any more than I did.
Culpepper in 2004 had a combined 5123 passing + rushing yards, which at the time set a new NFL record for a single season (surpassing Dan Marino in 1984), but this fact flew completely under the radar and he received no recognition or publicity at all for this feat.
Man that music cue that plays every time something terrible happens for the Vikings is just so good it’s hilarious but sad all at the same time lol I love Jon and Alex so much for what they do
New Vikings team motto: "We're gonna be AWESOME next year!"
Kinda like "beer is free tomorrow" - I like it!
Now that that’s over with, a preview of things I project will be in the finale on Friday:
2010:
- Metrodome collapses from snow before game vs. NYG
- Favre ends the consecutive games start streak in an arena where he’s tortured the home team of that arena for years: Ford Field, home of the Detroit Lions.
- Favre calls it a career after brutal hits that knock him unconscious in a game vs. CHI at TCF Bank stadium.
2011:
- Pick up McNabb on his swan song.
- Adrian Peterson’s season gets cut short week 16.
2012:
- Same Adrian Peterson wins CPOTY, rushing for over 2,000 yards.
- Lose a largely uncompetitive playoff game at GB.
2013:
- Wild back and forth at BAL in the final few minutes.
- Final season at the Metrodome.
2014:
- Staying a couple years at TCF Bank Stadium.
- Adrian Peterson wins FOTY.
2015:
- AP leads a largely improved Vikings team (especially on defense).
- Win the NFC Norris for the first time since 2009. Face the Seahawks coming off their own humiliating loss the year prior in the Super Bowl.
- Oh, look! Bud Grant is back! Why is he wearing a short sleeve shirt? IT’S -6 DEGREES OUT WITH A -25 DEGREE WINDCHILL? Ah well, he’ll keep those Viking fan hearts warm.
- Not warm enough apparently as THE SEASON CAN’T END LIKE THAT! HE MISSED IT LEFT!
2016:
- Open U.S. Bank stadium, friendly for birds!
- Start out 5-0, collapse to 8-8.
2017:
- QB problems? Nah, this defense will carry the day (especially on 3rd downs), leading to a 13-3 record and a first round bye.
- Get revenge on NO from 2009. DIGGS. SIDELINE. TOUCHDOWN. UNBELIEVABLE.
- Possibility of being first team to play in a home Super Bowl gets vanquished at, well, THE LINC!
2018:
- Start of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota.
- Season largely uneventful other than Anthony Barr getting hurdled by some QB named Josh Allen.
- Finish 8-7-1.
2019:
- Year 2 of the Kirk Cousins era is a little more success in a playoff berth at the house of horrors experienced at the start of this decade in NO.
- Remember the revenge from 2017? Appetizer as Kyle Rudolph Mosses a Saints player in the end zone to give the Vikings the win over a 13-3 Saints team that lost possible home field and a bye losing to the 49ers.
- That same 49er team desecrates a tired and emotional Vikings team.
2020-21:
- Largely uneventful
2022:
- 13-4
- Negative point differential (-3)
- double doink win vs. NO
- Justin Jefferson’s OBJ catch at BUF
- Largest comeback in NFL history (33-0) vs. IND (Hi, Matt Ryan!)
- Such a dramatic season ends vs the most boring team in the NY Giants (remember them?) with a check down from Kirk to TJ Hockenson getting nowhere closer to the first down marker.
Let me know if I’ve forgotten some details (Lord knows I did), and what you expect!
They’ll definitely cover the Diggs trade situation and the resulting Justin Jefferson draft pick, and his record setting first 3 season pace
They'll add the Farve to Moss TD in MNF against the Jets to secure his 500th TD pass in the "what could have been Super Bowl 44 matchup."
I hope they give Case Keenum a shout-out for randomly having the best year of his unnoteworthy backup QB career in that 2017 season
I wish they had time to talk about Jared Allen. My dad and I still laugh about that one journalist who compared the trade for him to the Herschel Walker trade.
@@danielwilkie4460man, now you're making me think of the botched Laquon Treadwell pick when Michael Thomas went in the following round.
There are soooooooo many stories from this era, and i can't wait to hear them cover the Poole catch, Lake Minnetonka, and straight cash homie
Two things:
- When I was growing up I figured Culpepper had to be one of the greatest QBs of all time, and as I got older I was surprised he didn't have nearly as long a career as I remembered. Love seeing him get some love.
- Now we know Favre and AP aren't exactly saints (heh) either, but god I wish they'd won that 2009 NFCCG.
The Robert “not a football fan” Smith story is now the best cold open in history
There's nothing more heart wrenching than watching a dork town and Alex or Jon starts emphasizing how bad the opponents are
Best RUclips series ever. For me it’s between the falcons one and this but as a falcons fan that super bowl episode hits a bit too close to home so I’ve never rewatched it😂😂 but yeah Jon and Alex your both absolute legends thank you so much for this
Having watched this retrospective since the first episode, it's honestly staggering to see all the incredible players that have played for this franchise. All these All-Pros, Pro Bowlers, and Hall of Famers over the decades.... And no rings to show for any of it. None of them could bring it home.