The Most Inexpensive Shower Waterproofing System Ever!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- There are many ways to waterproof your shower, and in today's video, I'm combining a number of products to show you THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE method to get a perfect overall seal.
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LePage 2 in 1 in the US is LocTile Polyseamseal All-Purpose Adhesive Caulk. It took we awhile to figure out. I got routed to Canada's Home Depot site and finally got it. I love your channel and the way you present things. You are my 'go to' RUclipsr whenever I have a remodel job.
I prepared my shower in exactly the same way . got caught up on other projects (got lazy) .and I have been showering in a red shower for 3 years lol and the shower looks exactly the same as when I did it!! Even took off a bunch of drywall in the kitchen on the other side last week .and absolutely no mold
You're a true no bs sugar coating type of man, if you can make something better you show us how to without over spending on top of the line tools or products. Most of all you explain everything so well anyone can follow your directions.
Your a RUclips superhero in my book!
Thanks, We are always looking for ways to help people make money on their homes and build a better product at a reasonable price.
That just saved me a lot of stress of having the greenboard removed and re-do it entirely like many bloggers/videos recommends to do. I just wanted new bath walls so this is how I will do it ! Thank you very much !
I just want to tell you that I'm extremely grateful that I came across your videos.
This one is the reason I have started watching your channel.
I'm currently remodeling my small home almost completely on my own.
I have soooooo many problems and felt completely lost. My bathroom is one of the worst. This is absolutely the best video, advice and solution I have came across anywhere on the internet.
Please keep doing what you're doing, because people like me with a low income need you in their life!
That is why we are here Katherine. Nobody is helping out the average home owner. Cheers!
This is the best waterproofing video out there. I have worked with many different systems, tried many different materials and this is the cheapest, best and easiest system that exists.
Your just the best Jeff. I turn to you for all my home projects. I'm over 60 and doing it just about all myself, because, once you get taken, it's the last time you get taken!
Thank you for this video Jeff! Waterproofing a shower has been made very confusing and time and labor extensive by some. This was great for people like me to hear you don't have to pay a fortune for a good shower that will last.
Thanks Jeff. This is where simple meets quality. There are better options but usually not necessary.
I have used that in conjunction with fiberglass tape( not the drywall one- looks like thin cloth) specifically for the corners and edges and fiberglass backer board
You really know your stuff young man. Thanks for saving me a ton of money on my shower.
I watch a lot of you tube
All kinds of content
I have to admit I think you are one of the best at video education
No BS not trying to sell T shirts
Not promoting yourself
Just good honest education
Thank You for sharing your time knowledge and craft youve been my go to videos for tile installation which I really dont know much
Thanks Again Paul
You put this old house to shame! I appreciate you!! Thank you
This is my new favorite RUclips chanel
Thank you! So glad I found this video before mudding and taping my shower.
Jeff, love your tutorials. I have learned so much from your vids because they are so easy to follow, I have so many projects around my house that I feel so confident to take on knowing that I can always go back and watch your tutorial again, its like having my personal mentor, thank you so much for sharing your vast knowledge with us...sir...you are a true master of your craft!!! Muchas gracias!!!!
I am happy to help! Glad to hear that the videos have been of some use.
WOW thanks so much! I'm a single (newly retired) woman, with a 116 year old farm house. I've now got the time that my career didn't afford me, to try some renovations.
Looking forward to turning my one LARGE bathroom, located between both bedrooms, with central house entry, into two smaller bathrooms, making each bedroom into a suite.
I've lived alone for too long and don't like the idea of sharing a bathroom. But would like the added financial income with someone paying rent.
I've been devouring your videos and am so stoked to get started once the Summer heat abides into September. Right now practicing on my garage, making it into a shop to handle the Fall renovations. Need a new home for my new collection of Ryobi 18 Volt tools and the work space.
This should be fun with the guidance I'm receiving from all your videos. I'm going to be the built in queen. Hoping to make this old farm house feel more like a cottage when done.
Rebuilding a shower/tub my dad did in the 70s. Very surprised how well it held up. Yes it had water damage, but it was tile on drywall. Many years later it had latex caulk put in the corners and tub edge. Around the tub controls it was rotted out and the tiles were toast. Most of the drywall survived. It went over 40 years with nothing but tile and grout. Sometime in there the shower controls were replaced and a few tiles were patched back in.
sometimes with Redguard, I use a small tooth trowel for first coat, then flat trowel the second. When you do the trowel ridges on the first coat, it dries fast and stands. then when you do the flat, you can fill it to the recommended mils. But you need to do that first coat really even, no blobs! Keep a trowel in the other hand for a hawk. I think recommended mils to reach full impermeable is 30 or so, if you use it for a pan or bench etc. I usually use disposable brushes too. I don't like cleaning the brush, especially if I wait a little too long. Good vid.
Hello from Australia! Great to see a tradesman that does things properly and takes pride in his work. I am learning heaps. :)
Cheers to Australia!
Great informative video as always by "The Home Reno-Man"! He keeps things simple and quality all the way....always enjoy his sense of humor as well..Take Care and God Bless You..
Can you install a glue up tub surround wall after applying the Redguard, or are they only supposed to go on bare drywall?
Awesome! I paid for an unexpected bathroom renovation because the previous owners put tiles on top of sheetrock covered with plaster (50’s house)... BAD mold grew in between the plaster and sheetrock and had to do mold remediation. I was very relieved to see our contractor first using a similar product than the one you show (it was green instead of pink) on top of the cement board (for tiling after) to waterproof our shower. Definitely that made feel I was paying the right person to do that and while I checked what he was doing I was also learning a lot. This is just a reaffirmation that these types of products work and will ensure that you will not have any moisture and mold problem for a very long time. Thank you for your videos!
Hi Daniel, this is not the best way, but it is a great way to get a long lasting shower. Chances are that it will be rebuilt due to changing design styles before the tile fails.
Hands down best Reno channel ever!!!!this guy forgets more than most people know 😜
I have learned so much watching this show. Thank you.
I love this! Can you please let me know if this is also something you could/should use to waterproof the bathroom 's ceiling?
Yes, this is hydro insulation, After all :P
I assume after the RedGuard dries it is ready for regular mastic/thinset and tile? Never mind. I read down the comments and determined that you already said yes to this question, and suggested Mapei's ultralite cement! Thanks for a great video!
I am building a fly fishing cottage in SW Colorado and have to build 3 walk in showers. I was debating on what type of vapor barrier to use in them. I have used wonderboard in the paste with a roll on vapor barrier. I would like to use drywall instead because it is so much easier to cut and install. I do not like cutting any corners but based on your video, I no longer believe that I would be. Using drywall will save me time and a lot of money in doing 3 showers. Thank you for this video and ALL your other video's. Your are one of my favorites to watch.
I've worked on several projects, and every time I follow him, nothing goes wrong.
Omg my man just in time for the shower renovation my wife got me doing.
I'm gonna be honest. I probably will never use any of the things that you teach us in these videos. But I cant stop watching these for some reason 😂 You're awesome!
Thanks watson, glad to hear you enjoy our videos. Cheers!
You are missing out if you don’t utilize what he teaches ...
Sounds like a great way to water proof a shower. I replaced some fallen down shower tiles & re-grouted the whole shower at my inlaws house a year ago & it turned out really good for my first tile & grout project, yet was wondering about water proofing and the ways it's done for a bigger project of new shower installation, so this video showed me a lot. When my hubby and I put in a 2nd bathroom, I'd really like to do some of the work myself
Bathrooms have a lot of steps but we can help with that!
Awesome video. Love your "do it right" attitude!
It should be noted.
Redguard is only truly waterproof when enough coats have been applied so the background can not be seen.
In general it’s 3 coats.
Happened to be at one of there demos.
I’ll add cuz I have been asked.
Redguard will NOT fall off or peel away from wall. It’s also a better bonding surface then drywall alone.
And if anyone doubts redguard. Get a cardboard box (small. Or a shoe box). Put a few coats in with a brush.
Fill with water.
I tiny pool for your turtle or your lizard. Lol
Mike Sacco your comment is spot on. I prefer aqua defense myself because I love Mapei products, but they are the same thing. Multiple coats is key. 3-4 usually. I have always been told it should be as thick on the wall as a drivers license or credit card. Aqua defense is also a little easier to bare in my opinion because it’s scent is less pungent. When you’re working in a small bathroom that is significant.
Can this product be applied over paint?
Thanks.. But exactly what the man said did he not?
Hi, great video and very well done. After the membrane is dry, do you start tiling right over the membrane or is there another material that goes over the membrane before I can start tiling?
Tile away Tom. Cheers!
Keep up the great work Jeff and Home RenoVision DIY crew. Great videos!
Thanks we really appreciate that. cheers!
Something about seeing a thick application of waterproofing membrane is satisfying.
Would you seal the bottom and waterproof between the tub nd board?
After waterproofing the walls can you use a luxury vinyl plank as a shower/tub surround? If so what would you use to adhere it to the wall?
I've used the 2 in 1 by LePage as an alternative to silicone caulking and it seems to work great. I can cut out parts that get mouldy and reapply (after fixing source of moisture) , and it just sticks to itself, unlike cured silicone.
Thanks for the video. I used Redguard in a recent emergency renovation in my bathroom (with your help from another video :D) and it is pretty easy and it doesn't take a lot of time to dry.
Glad to be of help. Cheers!
Hello, I've used this system in my home main bath reno with great results. I'm wondering if you'd suggest using this method, with tile, in a 3-season cottage where slight movement may occur during thaw, or putting out the expense for Kerdi board to minimize movement and chances of tile cracking?
kerdi all the way in that scenario. Cheers!
Hello, sir! Thank you for this video. Can I paint the whole bathroom with the liquid hydro insulation 3-4 coats and then paint over with alkid paint of my choice, without putting tiles anywhere in the bathroom, is this gonna work? I do not want to spend money on tiles and I also would like to redo my whole bathroom by myself for a day or two.
You are great at what you do Jeff, thank you
I really trust your advice... I'm doing a shower.. I'll use this technique 👊👊👊
The roll-on membrane system makes a lot more sense to me than a board-and-tape system which costs a lot more and is put together with thinset which wicks water. For a builder I appreciate that the board-and-tape is probably a lot faster to put up, but as a home owner what's the value proposition for me?
Ok, I cant find the LePage product anywhere to buy on the web, is Dap kitchen and bath adhesive just as good?
And can you install tile directly over the Red Guard membrane?
Thank you so much for all of your videos! You have been my favorite channel to watch for both gaining both broader knowledge and all the tips and tricks of the trade. I bought a fixer upper and am about ready to start tearing down all the drywall in the bathrooms...this video was a big help! I will be using cement board instead but the rest I will do the same. Seems easy enough knowing the few steps involved.
That is a great approach. Good luck. we are here to help if you have questions along the way! Cheers!
Just what i needed to see. Thanks again
Like your show. How you do it, you seem to make thing so simple. When I tries oh boy!
Thanks for the tips. Keep it coming it's great stuff!
Really enjoy your videos! Very informative and easy to follow. Preparing to renovate a bathroom in my newly purchased 50+ year old house and plan to use several of your videos as tutorials and refreshers on how to's. Is the redguard good to use on floor under stone floor tile.
Another great video! I learn so much by watching them and listening to your explanations, Simply outstanding!
Thanks Jb, always love to hear from our viewers. Cheers!
Hey Jeff. Glad I found your videos. I'm hoping to use this video for a bathroom reno I'm doing in May. Pulling out a tub (watched your bathroom demolition video as well) and putting in a walk in shower. Hoping to use a standard shower base (60 X 30). do you have a video on how to set the walls on the base? Thanks again!
Hi, Jeff! Love your vids. Why didn't you apply caulk to the horizontal wall seams?
The wall board is not moving and the membrane is flexible anyway. Cheers! Sorry for the late response.
What type of thin set would you recommend over Redgard for a 12 X 24 tile? Great videos by the way, very informative and helpful. I am currently demolishing my bathroom and using your videos to help guide me through the building and refinishing process. Thanks.
Use Mapei LFT. I believe Lowes and Rona sell it.
As always great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience! God bless.
Thank you for putting up the videos. I've learned so much it helps me know if I have a satisfactory contract by asking him to explain how he does the job. Also, I m now retired and (fixed income)can do some things my self; you help me do things easier and how to select the products to use. Thank you
Hi!, love watching your very impressively done informative videos 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Question, how far apart should drywall be screwed to the studs in a walk in curb less shower?
Hey Jeff, thanks for all your content. It's empowering to be able to do little projects by ourselves. I have one important question:
what kind of thinset would you recommend to use over top of redgard? Modified or unmodified? Let me know. Thanks agaim👌🏾👍🏾
This video is 2 years old and I’m getting ready to redo a bathroom from 1897. It’ll be my first. I bought the green drywall that is water-resistant and mold resistant as talked about in one of your more recent videos. Would you still suggest using that same caulk in those corner crevices? Along with joint mud for the remainder, then slapping on with the Aqua defense membrane? I hope you see this, thanks so much
Thanks much Jeff!
I am a novice who is preparing to install the Kohler Choreograph shower wall system. My plan is to install standard moisture/mildew resistant drywall and use your method of prep illustrated here, and then (as per Kohler’s own advice), to adhere their wall panels using their proprietary adhesive, directly to the RedGuarded blue board.
Given one of your commenter’s note that only backer board should be used in general, do you see a problem with my strategy?
I am at the open frame or stud stage at the moment.
Thank you again!
Is it also worth it to use grout sealer for additional waterproofing?
Thanks for the videos, they're great!
That is an excellent point Raymond. Mapei makes a grout with the sealer already in the mix. Ultracolor is the name. adds a huge amount of protection.
Hi Jeff, when using this technique how do you place the drywall to the lip of the shower/tub pan? In another video using kerdie board you used mesh tape and sealed it, how do we address this for drywall?
I just did this for a customer on a budget. Acrylic shower tray and two tile walls. Glass door and wall. Thanks for the tip.
how can I seal the bigger seam between ceiling and wall
Great information!
Thank you!
HI Jeff
I have an RV and the shower stall came with 1/4" ply covered in a vinyl like wall paper which is already peeling. Do you think I can peel off the paper then apply the red guard to the 1/4" plywood with a few coats then tile over that?
Sherry Alfaro I would say yes. I would but five or more coats on it.
Ok so we are now in 2021 and I cannot find LePage 2 in 1 on Amazon. What is equivalent in USA?
Hey Jeff, your videos are great, they've been a huge help on my basement renos !!! I have a small Stand up Jasmin shower Kit 75in H, 30in W, 32in D from Lowes, that I just installed. I have mold resistant drywall. My question is my wall going up after the flinge of the shower is only 8 inches high. Could I do exactly what you did in your video and paint over the Red Gaurd membrane instead of putting on tile ?
Awesome channel. Two questions. 1. Any reason you didn’t use the mesh/fibreglass tape on the seams with the roll on membrane? Would you reco doing so? 2. If this was an existing stand up shower, could you use the membrane on existing shower pan after the tile has been removed and the surface smoother down? Rather than replacing the pan if it’s not leaking.
What seal and bond would you consider equal to the lepage. I cannot get my hands on it in the states.
Loctite is the LePage equivalent. Both brands are owned by the same company (Henkel). LePage is exclusive to Canada. Most LePage products are available as Loctite in the US.
How deep do I need to set my faucet using standard tile?
I used this technique for my shower and put several coat because i always thought the coverage was not enough. I would have use caulk on screw head and middle joint. Cheaper but longer. And around the pipe and valve the schluter flange are great.
Great video - thanks for sharing. I do have a question. I am adding a tile wall above a tub and have already installed mold proof drywall on the walls above the tub. In your video, you said to add caulk in the corners instead of regular tape and mud used for drywall. Unfortunately I added regular tape and mud to the corners and seams before I saw your video. What recommendations do you have on what I should do now?
All these videos make me want to buy a junky house just to try everything. Thanks!!
LOL I was recently thinking the same thing. Cheers!
As a landlord, these videos help me a lot. I do all my fixing and remodeling. :)
I cannot wait to have my first own house either. Currently i’m renting; A good place to trial and error on little projects like caulking and plastering and such things. If it fails it’s not a real big deal as it’s not my own building LOL. The landlord is a large company that owns 10000 houses. No person even knows about the existance of this property.
Seems like kurdi would be a lot better system to me just saying
Stevie Ray it is a solid system- cost difference is huge though! From 40+ year installers, I have been told this way is just as solid.
“It’s gotta stop.” 😄
Great video! Two quick questions. Q1: Currently redoing our house's small guest restroom (new tube/shower tile). When I removed the (27 year old) traditional subway shower tile, it was cemented to a separate sheet of sheet-rock that was on top of the primary (standard) sheet-rock. When going back with new water-proofing substrate (for tile), can I replace waterproofing substrate board flush with other primary adjoining (regular) sheet-rock? Q2: Regarding how far to bring the waterproofing board to or over the lip-up of the tub (does board sit on lip or go over tub lip just short of sitting on tub itself)? I have heard 10 different opinions on where to stop waterproofing board? I appreciate your feedback or reference on these questions! Keep your great videos coming...they are about the only ones that I reference!
Awesome as always, learned something new today.
That is a goal of mine everyday! Cheers!
Keep an eye on how thick the redguard goes on. They void the warranty if it goes in TOO thick. Should be on the bucket
Many thin coats is the answer. Works like a charm.
So I can tile over this then, right?
Great video and very cost effective! I think I'm gonna use Hardie backer Hydro defense (which is fully waterproof ) with butted corners and the 2 in 1 caulk on the corners and over all the screw holes. Done! Job will be twice as fast. Not sure if its as cost effective as this but the board will outlast that greenboard.
Redgard is an awesome.product. Jim 100 percent for it. Yes, you must follow recommendations on its use. I used three layers just to be safe.
Great video! I have mold resistant (green rock from home depot) drywall installed and it's been taped already. Can I apply the seal and bond over the drywall tape or do I need to cut those joints and re-seal? Thanks!
I would like to know the answer to this too
Do you still put a vapor barrier behind the mold resistant board, even if you plan on using the Red Gard? I am trying to gain some knowledge before I attempt renovating my bathroom. Your videos have been so informative and you do an excellent job at explaining each part of the process as you go. It has made the learning process so much easier, thanks!
Yes, the vapor barrier system should be continuous.
Vapor barrier isn't necessary if you're using a liquid membrane like redgard. The membrane is your barrier.
jaksngreen would there be any problem if you did both Vapor barrier behind and also use redgard on front
Hey greetings from Ottawa and thanks for the tips! We're building a washroom in the basement from the ground up and every time we look something up we get directed to one of your videos. Great stuff! In the summer we did a wood fence and also stumbled on several of your videos.
Glad to help. Cheers to Ottawa!
You’re the professional practical logical Canadian I know 🙏
Lepage is not available in the US any alternatives that you know of?
loctite 2 in 1 seal and bond will work
I’m doing my bathroom taking out the tub and just having a big shower, do you recommend a store bought shower pan or making it yourself
Store bought 100% unless you really know what your doing... pans are alot more difficult to water proof and be done right... just my opinion..
I had the same question. Thanks.
Hey Jeff..your videos have been so helpful! I love it! Do you have any advice for integrating this roll on waterproofing with a schluter shower pan/orange felt?
Fabulous Video Thank You
When using this system can you put a tub surrounded panel system instead of tile the whole thing
I have the same question. I would like to see how this would be finished off for an adhesive tub surround including the trim.
Thats also my question
Yeah I would like to know that to I want the waterproofing but plan on a surround instead of tile
Is it alright to use red guard over tape and mud?
around a tub I'd use durabond 90 and then the redgaurd.
Yes no problem
Love your guide line's... How to waterproof subfloor? And lowcost?
Thanks for sharing your tips and tricks to less expensive shower wall tiling Since the time this video came out 2 years ago, have you discovered any other products that do the same or a more superior job than demonstrated here?
Denssheild fiberglass tile backerboard >>> anytype of drywall, mold resistant or otherwise.... works like drywall, cuts like drywall (don't breath the dust), costs $35 a sheet, but will not mold if you submerge it.
You still need to seal the gaps. This is why I like this system for fast and cheap. It lasts quite a long time as well. Besides most bathrooms are changed due to design changes after 30 years. So no need to invest more on the waterproofing than the tile.
My dad built houses, and taught me an old trick. Dip your finger in soapy water and run it over the caulk. No mess and caulk won't stick to your finger.
Nice one bruv
Jeff, do you use any type of pipe or mixing control seal/flange with red guard process?
And do you know about Hydraflex vs Redguard?
If i am putting in a 5 pc surround would i need the RedGard? by the way i enjoy watching i have learned a lot
I saw your underpants at 2:21...while you were touching your caulk. :-o
Great videos!
Thanks for another great video. From someone who watches all of your videos, appreciates, and gives them a like, I am confused by this one... in one of your other videos you say you like AquaDefense more than RedGuard. Why did you use RedGuard then in this video?
just showing options. redgaurd is readily available in stores i=and online. aqua defense is harder to find for many folks. Cheers!
Great video! I'm planning to pull out my old tub and surround soon but I don't know what to replace the surround with. What are the benefits of tile in comparison to tub surrounds/glue up tub wall panels etc.? The end of the tub with the fixtures is a false wall with a cabinet that is built on an angle towards the tub so it isn't a true rectangular alcove. I wish I could pop an insert in for time's sake, but I don't think it will work with the odd shape of the angled wall.
Thanks for the info.