What Cannabis Growers Should Know About Tap Water and Soil Microbes
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Is tap water safe for growing your plants? Should you run your water through a filter?
How do the chemicals in municipal water affect the microbes in your soil?
And what about if your water comes from a well?
All these questions answered and more, in today's episode.
Gotta love living in the mountains with your own private well system 😎🍍
Scotty , I’ve just found your channel. I’ve subscribed. You are my cannabis god. Thank you sir. You are very knowledgeable.👊😇
1. Chlorine is a micro nutrient so plants need it.
2. The concentration is so low it won't hurt the microbes for long. (Microbes multiply rapidly.)
3. You can bubble the water to increase chlorine diffusion.
if you did have too much chlorine in your water, ascorbic acid (vit c powder) nullifies it quicker.
@@RapidRootsNShoots ascorbic acid and citric acid lower pH and maybe helpful in some cases yes.
I got a rain barrel and use rain water. It seems like the natural solution. I've used gallon jugs of store bought spring water when I don't have anything in the rain barrel. The plants are huge and healthy and I've never checked the pH. I do have a compost pile and I add that and earthworm castings and bone and blood meal, that probably helps keep the soil levels pretty decent.
I also do this, but I can't gather enough yet.
@@curtthechameleon if you have a 50 gallon rain barrel with the downspout set up to drain into it, the barrel will fill up the first time it rains. You have to cut a downspout a little higher than the barrel with the elbow reattached above the barrel.. the barrel has to be sitting on something about a foot above the ground.
rain water is the best answer! it's free and has the goodies in it your plants need! 30 gal. tapped into downspout and aerated with aquarium air pump.
I have been strongly considering doing that myself
It’s technically illegal here but everything I’m doing is technically illegal here so
Some place don't allow rain water collection, so people need to pay attention to local laws.
Scotty, thanks for all your videos, they helped me get through my 1st grow, seed to harvest. Of all the "variety pack" of plants, who would have thought my Black Diamond would finish first? Well, since I'm a noob, I accidentally stunted her. Early grow light issue, had bloom lights on for 3 nights when they were all about 3 weeks old? 2 hermed and had to be tossed, and Black Diamond got dwarfed into a little "budsai" tree. And smaller size meant she could get to maturity quicker. But, hey, a chop is a chop. Used my clip on cellphone loupe, I saw when 65 - 70% of the trichs were showing tans or coffee browns in the heads... Chop, hang upside down like Scotty...
Oh and THEN, dissecting the pot and checking the contents out afterwards, also learning stuff. I could SEE where I had overwatered, and how the roots reacted to it. From now on, I'm adding even more perlite lol.
Dried her, did the trim out, went smooth. Got a lil curious though, I couldn't resist the temptation to KNOW! Man I couldn't stand it and I went ahead and tried to vape some in my V3 pro, and what I can tell you is you DO NOT wanna try weed that's still uncured. This morning, I tried some... and after some time has passed now, and some CURING has happened, omg day and night difference! You HAVE to cure. OMG.
When it was fresh and green (after the time in the drying tent) I tried it, because I was curious, and it tasted like the inside of an oven that needs to be cleaned. Or.. Laundry Hamper, yeah that would a good name for it if it was a strain lol. But, Now a few days have passed and I think CURING is taking place. Dear Lord. the DIFFERENCE. I mean, it's like... there's like berries, definite grape tones, and on occasion a split second of Christmas-Time-Douglas-Fir ! And THEN... the amazing happiness and warm feelings. omg the laughter. I have been told BD is... well Black Diamond can be pretty strong. i have no way of knowing exactly how strong my stuff is, but if I had to guess, based on how I feel... I think it's gotta be 24% or maybe more. If someone told me "This is 27!" I wouldn't be surprised.
Scotty, you're a hero, man. But I'm not done yet, there's still a million things I need to learn.
Hell Yeah, Keep growing, and you will get better and better!
I let tap water sit out for 24hr and give it to all my plants and never had an issues thanks again scotty reals cheers ✌️ ☮️
Works for fish, so why not plants. I used tap water for years. Have a well now.
Why . It does NOTHING bad to your plants or organisms . Waste of time . I’ve grown hydro with tap water for over 30 years .
I use it straight out of the tap and never had any issues.
Ditto.
I run tapwater through a Britta waterfilter (exchange every two weeks) and then leave it sit for 24 hours, just to be on the safe side.
I rinse and save clear milk jugs and fill them with tap water to dechlorinate it, then use them days later to pour into a bucket 4 gallons at a time and mix in measured nutrients for watering.
Hey Gromie, I have been using Gaia green and recharge, I recently bought some grow dots and using recharge in an organic soil mix. The grow dots and recharge combination is a sweet treat for my plants. I added some azomite for more trace and secondary minerals along with some mycrohyza grains on the transplant.
Keep up the great content.
Cheers!!!!
Thanks for sharing
Here locally... I talked to my water guy Big Sandy water he told me that I should not drink the tap water. He told me he would definitely boil the water before he drank it. Not that they're under a boil water advisory but he said I would always boil the water unless you put it through a Brita or something. You know he's a big week they say they bust that water line open every day. They have to turn off the water to this whole Halo and I'm very fortunate that I'm on the main line and the cutoff is right past my line so I don't ever have problems with water pressure or having my water turned off if they're having to work on the water of the road.
I use Brondo. It has electrolytes
Its got what plants crave 😂
Lol 👌
I use water like what's in the toilet!
I've used tapwater on the edge of brackish and grow with no hassle. Hello from the Northern Cape South Africa. plants grown on tap on my channel.
we don't drink the water I should mention as sometimes the water does smell so probability of microbes are high but the plants thrive.
never PHd the water but PPM is high.
As a grower tapwater never bothered me.
😶🌫jesus saw you delete that comment and screenshotted it. 😂
Did a test my last watering with straight tap on some ladies in veg. I typically dechlorinate with an air pump, but decided lets see what happens. They look just a good as they do without dechlorinating the water. This saves me 12-24 hours of off gasing, however part of me does like the ritual aspect of prepping my water a day in advance.
Just be aware that on occasion they will super spike the water with treatments and 1 watering could be
heartbreaking. ❤ Keep em budding!!!
@@jeffreybrown1433 Yeah, that's why I'll still off gas. It was really more or less proof of concept. I get city treated Lake Michigan water so I know for a fact the levels will fluctuate. I also make sure to read my town's yearly water report.
Michigan water ok,I'm in Central Alabama I'm on county water, which is basically deep well water and treated, and I do off gas and aerate for maybe an hour before I water
I'm not talking down on grow dots but been watching a guy that's been talking about using grow dots he said that the girl dots you got to have a neutral grow medium about the size of your hand your fist. Even then it says 3 table spoons to his container now he put a little extra you know it was a heaping scoop and he was having to back off because it was burning his plants and one bag of that wouldn't even last the whole cycle on an auto so he said it was a little too expensive for him. He also said you cannot use no type of other top dressing like juanos or anything. He said instead of three scoops for whatever the container was saying he said to back it up to two and he said that it was even given a little bit of nutrient burn then but he said it was super expensive. I would love to try some. He also said like the pH was off whenever you would try to test the runoff for the pH on the pots. He said he liked it but he said for the money $50 a bag he didn't know if he could afford it. He was using cocoa and perlite. He said the macronutrients were the best that he had ever used but when it comes to the grow dots he said it would burn plants if you're not careful. He also said he didn't like the fact that he couldn't check the pH the runoff out of the plants because it would throw funny numbers. He could have had a bad pH pen but who knows.
Happy 4th Scotty. I use a RV water filter from Camco. It's like $30 to replace it every year and it filters out any chlorine or other nasties I don't wanna put on my soil. The one thing I wish it could do is remove some of the minerals as my tap water is like liquid rock @400+ppm.
Zero water filter 15$ a piece
Hey RO system
I had a filter like that as well but I also was searching for a filter that removes PPM from the water too. In my opinion the simplest option is an RO filter if you don't need a huge amount of water daily. I just bought a $100 3-stage RO filter that I hooked up to my garden hose nozzle using a splitter that makes it so easy to switch from filter back to hose water in 2 seconds. Mounted it on the wall and it looks nice and proper. It's a 100 GPD filter and it takes about an hour to fill a 5 gallon bucket with fresh, clean, & near-0 ppm water for my indoor tent or humidifier. No more lugging gallons of distilled water from the grocery store all the time!
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming is what i had to do. my well ppm comes out in the 500's
I have 2 wells, the city ordered me to close them off, as they put in city water. so now I have 2 wells and one city water tap ins. I am only using well water for mine! Thanks so much for the info about that chlorine, I am sure theres other crap in that city water too that will hinder any plants. Mine is really smelling great when I walk into my room!
I use tap. It's about 230 ppm. Most municipalities will post their water testing online if you do some digging. You can actually see what's in there and the percentage.
I use a hose filter that claims it removes 99% of chloramine but who knows? It does lower the PPM by about 15 so that's good enough for me.
Leave it in a 5 gallon bucket or whatever and use a bubbler and let it bubble for at least 24 hours and you're good
A few people have told me that if you use chemically pure water, you have to add your nutrients before balancing the pH, which is something I’m trying because my water where I live is absolutely terrible so I filter it with a zero filter. So far it’s working out pretty well.
I fill 42 ltr buckets with tap water and it can sit their for a couple of weeks , never had any issues with my plant's. I'm in the UK.
Yes bro same here I'm orgAnic Welsh water I've gave them straight from tapat a push but normally just have multiple big milk bottles u no the ones and my plants run fine I haven't had any issues for years don't ph I think I'm 7_6well last year it was my soils old so runs itself to be fair good hunting and growing mate
Scotland here,
slightly more acidic/peaty than the south
Works a treat as is
Beats Brondo
I use 2 thirds r/o and one third tap . My ppm out of the tap is 380
That’s better than a bottle of Nestle Pur Life. Nestle Pur Life sits at 550ish PPM. Crazy how people buy bottles of water thinking it’s better than their tap water.
I live in the carribean and our tap water is pretty drinkable. 👌
Chloramine doesn't burn off, chlorine will. Vitamin C neutralizes chloramine and chlorine. 20mg per 5 gallons.
where do you get vitamin c from?
@djpawnshop2318 I just use the tablets from the grocery store. Meant for human consumption. I noticed tap water varies in chlorine content. Sometimes its too high. Check what your water is treated with to see if you need to neutralize. I can usually taste it
@@djpawnshop2318 a store or online store
Citic acid
Apparently where I live, we have some of the cleanest drinking water in the country, according to the report. I've not had any issues whether I let my water sit out or not. My 14 outdoor plants last year all got it straight from the hose, never pH'd either.
My well water comes out at 270ppm and 8.2ish PH, my plants seem to love it. After I mix all the nutes, it drops to around 7 then adjust accordingly.
Scotty I have a water filter that I use before I use it with my plants. But I also use Crystal Geyser water most of the time when feeding my plants. It’s ph at 6.9 -7.0 and it only cost $1.25 a gallon. I use a carbon filter for my tap
The water windmills you refill water jugs at is RO water with a ppm of less than 50 ... the ph is around 5.2-5.4 ... $1.25 for 5 gallons ...
Might be worth it to check it out if you have water windmills in your area.
I live in Scotland and our tap water ranges between 10 and 60ppm depending on where you are across the country. It fluctuates but never gos ove the 60. Our tap water is better than most bottled water funnily enough.
That's a nice starting EC
I use an RV carbon filter attached to a garden hose
Thats a pretty good idea. Thanks and Happy 4th🎉
Me too. Works great so far
Not much of any problem with Tap water here in Germany, I still use a basic filter out of habit.
I drilled a 15 meter deep well for when both the 500 liter rain barrels go empty. Thankfully I never have to consider using tap water for my plants.
for example if you use standard 3 gallon pots they are 8" tall and the chlorine affects the top 6", use an RV filter or well water.
Im battling Chloramine problems right now…also justnput an order in for a Spectrapure RO filter with the chlorinekiller filter package
Screw ammonias
Happy 4th DGC🤙🍻💨
Well done Scotty and HighC, thx!👏
Same to you!
Thank god the German tap water is very good. I only drink it, since ages. And the plants seem ok, from Cacti to Orchids and Cannababies.
What's up growmies!!!I'm a 6month newbie and I grow indoor,organic,in soil, I use dr. Earth 4-6-2 dry as my base fertilizer and started using RECHARGE about 2 months ago,
and it made me look like a pro.I also use some NPK RAW AMENDMENTS.
THANKS SCOTTY and the rest of the DGC family. Happy 4th🎉🎉🎉
Good stuff
@@ScottyReal420 thanks for educating and sharing your knowledge. 1 question,can I use recharge on fresh cuttings or on just popped beans??
My tap water comes out reeking of bleach, is between 7.8 and 9.5 pH, and 575 ppm on 500 scale (1200-1700 uS). I'm not fully understanding the different scales for the TDS meter, but the numbers were high enough to make me start collecting rainwater which is the opposite side of the scale of issues (still high pH, but practically nothing as for as nutrients)
So i do use API TAP WATER CONDITIONER. it's a clorine and cloramine neutralizer or whatever safe to fish and other water living organisms and plants. I accidentally drank coffee made with the decloirinated water one time. Don't ask how i managed to mix up the jug's of water. But that's almost all I use. Occasionally I use a little bit of bottled water. Spring water is what i drink. The biggest thing I've noticed after moving from the Southside of Lansing MI just a few miles north, just northwest of downtown, the tap water is crazy alkaline at 9 or higher while the tap water on the Southside is 7.4. i can ph down to 6.0, run water through my soil from my back yard that I use and ill ph what come out and it come out the bottom of my bag or whatever the plant is in and the water that comes out the bottom will ph to 8.9. ive been veging my apple tartz for about 2.5 months now and now longer have to worry about the water swinging like that. Ive actually had to give an emergency nutrient with water ph down to 5-5.5 because the soil ph was causing it to have a nutrient deficiency. Water pH isn't everything. If you use your own animal compost (living soil) you need to also know the ph of that or you will have problems.. this plant is almost ready for super aggressive feed schedule. Im watering half gallon every 3 days using heavy 16 advanced nutrients 10mils each of veg A and veg B. Last week, 15 was a bit much i think she can handle 12 as of right now. Gotta actually feed her right now. Time to make up the water
thanks for sharing!
60-80ppm and 6.7-6.9ph straight out of my well depending on season... I consider myself very lucky.
Bought a RO filter with an extra cloramine filter and it took my ppm from a respectable 9 down to 3 but it definitely cuts down on residue from my humidifier
I've found an in-line RV water on my hose. Mostly carbon
I use Prime from Seachem Aquarium chloriamine and chlorine water conditioner here in Australia our drinking water is HARD. I've seen no differences in growth or smoke. Without I run into nute uptake problems
Not sure where you are, but my tap water is 100 - 150ppm max, so not hard where I am. Prime doesn't remove them, it just binds them up. if after a few days they haven't been removed by your aquarium filter (a bio filter), they'll just be back. If you're using beneficials, then there is a good chance that they are using it as food & turning it into nitrites/nitrates (Which is what a bio filter does in an aquarium).
if you have a wall unit A/C collect the water from the water line. PH 6.0 every time and its clear of metals and other containments. Rain water is nice, if it's fresh.
@@homiedontplaythat I would test that water for mold
happy 4th weed the people
I use mostly ro water with a little tap water and it seems to work for me(I'm still new at this tho)
I’m in an entirely different situation than City tap water. We’ve got well water that comes in at close to 600ppm and a little less when I disable the Kinnetico water softener. Using my well water would be a non-starter without running it through reverse osmosis. If I didn’t RO I couldn’t grow.
That being said RO’ing gives me a clean slate to work with. Cal-mag is a running joke with City water growers but an essential supplement if you’re RO’ing your water. It’s a few extra steps but becomes a routine after a while.
I’m kind of jealous of City water growers but on the other hand like using RO water because it takes away the guesswork and requirement to have my water tested.
Mine runs 7.6 -7.8 .after chlorine is bubbled out 24 hours.. 😢
Humic and citric acid neutralise chlorine and chloramine though
My tap water is around 7.8 ph and my well water is 6.6 ph so I use the well water as it’s almost perfect ph for my plants.
So you have a well and city water? I live in the country we have a well and that's what comes out of our tap. So if you don't have city water then you tap water comes from your well.
@@nickneeley8798 Yep, I just use the well for watering the garden. City water too expensive to use for that .
Hey Scotty, quick question that kinda relates to the topic....does a ph down solution kill microbes, and to what extent? I know you always say you don't have to ph your water if you use Recharge, but my municipal water comes out of the tap at 9.0 certain times of the year. Cheers man!
no it won't kill microbes.
Why not just get and store rain water? That s pretty simple to get.
That's all I use . No amending. Just rain water from my barrels
that depends on your areas rain fall and in some places it is against the law to collect rain water.
@@ScottyReal420 wow well it wouldn't stop me .
Generally you won't see chlorine(which is a nutrient) toxicities unless the water has upwards off 100 ppms per gallon it actually takes quite a bit to affect the plants. I don't have any issues watering my girls with straight tap water, no sitting over night or airation. Of course everyone's tap water is different, it's the chloramine that is the problem.
I just use a slap on rv water filter on my tap. Easy peasy for me atleast. Tried RO , pain in the ass is adding all the shit back in. No thanks lol.
Dont have any chlorine in tap water here in Norway. As clean as it should be. 0.0 EC. 7-7,5Ph.
think my EC was in the 300s😅
More importantly chlorine and chloramine bond to the receptors so you get calciym magnesium deficiency...its like spraying instant leaf yellowing when i water from the hose directly.
Thanks for the tips!
I live in the country my well water is 55 ppm good water
I have an R/O machine because my tap water is 350-400ppm and i have no idea what those ppm's consist of, lol.
Vit c and i use a 500 gallon bubber keep it at 68f
I use aerator for 24 hours and the chlorine is gone
What kind of carbon filter u recommend I’m using a active carbon rv filter that screws on a hose
What about dehumidifier water? My well water is high in Ca, but is it in a usable form?
I always put three drops of lemon juice in tap water and leave my water set out overnight
What does this do?
@@ColemanCannait helps fix the ph! I do it to
@roadsmusic2 lemon juice is unstable and you will get ph swings after just a few hours. Distilled white vinegar works better than lemon juice
RO water from the grocery store .39 cents per gallon.
I have the problem, that my Water reservoir (for a Blumat watering System) has a small layer of reflective something on top of it.
I would try to use a light solution of hydrogen peroxide to just make sure that gunk doesn't affect my plants.
Do you have any tips for this type of issue
Thanks
This sounds like case where a water filter would help.
Municipal tap water has a pretty low chlorine ppms. Even if it manages to kill some beneficial bacteria, they tend to bounce back. Also from what I read, plants can use some chlorine with no ill effects. Tap water is perfectly fine for most plants.
I used tap water without letting it stand with no issues whatsoever
Don't they use sodium hypochlorite now? I've heard it doesn't evaporate out? That true?
The levels of chlorine are so low it's really not a concern
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Ii let my tap water set out over night or I get dechlorinator that you use in fish tanks
Great info, I use Microbe Life Hydroponics Premium Dechlorinator for Hydroponics Gardens, Chlorine and Chloramine Neutralizing Full-Function Water Conditioner and Brita water filter. Enjoy your 4th.
distill over R.O
no parts to replace and no waste water
distill water will need cal-mag add to it or you will run into the same issues as RO water.
@@ScottyReal420 ofc .the better of two evils is still evil
Any benefit to running a air stone in your water as it sits before using a myth some told me.
It will add air to the water and will help keep pathogens from growing in it. your pH change change too.
my tap water is hard water from a spring and tastes like shit but has a ph of 6ish
I believe I had a water issue in my first 2 grows. I wasn't checking the ph, I just watered from my facet. I went n got strips, but I found that difficult to work with so I got a kit. my water is over 10ph, so now I bring it down to 6.5 - 7.0. doesn't sound like it'd be a big dif, but in reality that's like a 35% shift in acidity.
A growmies plants are 7ft tall outdoors and its only July and using nothing but clorinated city tap water but im not one to gossip so you didn't hear thst from me.
My tap water is 8.3ph. I let it aerate for no less than 24h. I also have an RV filter attached to a water hose. I still try not to use it. But buying water is insane.
what about putting H2o2 in your feed water? will that kill them?
Peroxide isn't good for microbes.
yes, depending on the delusion rate
Dumb Question I'm sure, why do we use unsulphured molasass, but I keep reading sulphur is good for terps?
"Sulphured" alters the pH of the soil, increasing the acidity, which is harmful to good bacteria. Unsulphured does the opposite.
The sulfur can mess with the soil pH
Episode 69?
LFG!
chlorine is not harmful untill you get upwards of 100ppm and if you have that much in your water you got problems
no isuues but what about hydro or con u don't address
My tap water works fine. Most tap water will be good unless you have bad water in your area.
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Getting ph to the right number with ro water just plain sucks !!
try adding the cal mag in before pH balancing.
How about using bottled water?
That would be good, but a lot of work using all those bottles.
Depends what you choose. Nestle Pur Life sits around 550 PPM. But at least you get the analysis of what’s in the water.
That's fine but if it is distilled you will need to add cal mag to it.
Weekly trips to the grocery store to fill jugs (it’s an icy drive in the winter) vs a $200 portable RO filter in the laundry room. RO wins every time. I bought four gallon jugs that came with RO water. Used it all up and saved the jugs along with some gallons and two gallon that came with cat litter. Every few weeks I run the RO and fill them all up and do that for the whole grow. I like being self sufficient and under the neighbors radar. 😊
That’s my favorite position!!
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@@MattTheLyon Very Nice
Use it 24 hours later, air stone….. blessed tingzzzz 😂
an air stone won't bubble out chloramine and can change the pH or your water.
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Does fluoride affect plants?
Good question. Fluoride for water treatment is derived from fluorosilicic acid... which is corrosive, kinda dangerous to store, and actually a carcinogen in high enough concentrations. Not sure on its retention in water.
It will destroy the plants pineal gland
@@anakinsolo4529 lol, makes them easier to train too.
municipal fluoridated water assures *your plants' teeth will never grow or develop cavities.*
p.s. that's why dentists are generally depressed.
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Straight out of the tap.
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Dude is wrong IMO, I'm a brewer and making beer with tap water is horrible tasting. Chlorine and Chloramine I say if it makes drinks taste bad then plants also don't like it.
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RO systems are not a pain lol. This guy hasn't used one in 20 years!
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HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY SCOTTY, HI-C .❤ LOVE YOUR CHANNEL MAN !!!! RECHARGE, GROWDOTS, AND REALBUCKETS =DANK FRUITS..
Thanks so much
@@ScottyReal420 my pleasure.
Hydro or Coco. Use RO if you know. You know.
Outdoor grow I use tap water out the garden hose. No problems at all, my ph is around 7.6 and ppm is around 200. 👍🪴