🔉Mini BASS SHAKER🔉 DIY Pedal MOD [GUIDE] using cheap Sound Exciters! Give this go, it's AWESOME!
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Heat wrap the cables..
I was thinking about doing that
Init, that glue looks horrendously jank
17:25
Followed this tutorial and the result is incredible. Would totally recommend.
Dude I love your videos. This is just brilliant. I was gonna go with the SIM 3d rumble motors but this seems like a 'better' solution. The rumble motors I believe make more sound when activated. You deserve more followers. Keep up the good work.
You finally got around to it, I've been these exciters for a few months, I killed one of them by knocking into it. Opened it up and they are pretty cheaply made, but get the job done, just don't let SIM Cat near them.
THANKS MATE! I hope you know you're responsible for my rig moving from 4 shakers to 6 after seeing this! I've just ordered the shakers and a 3rd nobsound to run them - looking forward to trying this! I am going to mock up a 3d printed spacer disc to hold that shaker disc in place - hopefully I will be able to use the screws that hold the pedal face on to hold the plate down and keep everything looking nice.
Appreciate your videos mate - your 3drap load cell mod video inspired me to try the yellow spring mod (based on the price of the 3drap lol) and all of a sudden I can brake properly - I went from wildly inconsistent times to being able to consistently keep within a 10th or 2 for 20 laps plus. What a difference stopping properly makes :)
did they do the job? and got the 40 or 50mm? on what pedals you're using them?
Hey man. So you can use multiple amps if you want to set up additional channels for different transducer modules? Set them up in the simrig application I mean?
I'm new to diy sim mods but have a technical electronics design background but I'm not familiar with the simhub app.
That's amazing! I found your video right after watching one about the rumble motors from Sim3Dracing, and I much prefer your approach (which is also cheaper).
I just ordered the parts and can't wait to try it out!
how was it?
Awesome! Isolating directly to the pedals is smart. I currently have Dayton 50w BST-1 directly under my brake on my GT1-Evo pedal plate. It provides just a few effects so it’s not “muddy”. RPM, gear change and wheel lock. I’ve got an unused channel on my nobsound I think I’ll investigate some smaller exciters now! Hi SimCat!
😺👍
@@SimRacingCorner sent you a tweet with a pic of my diy :) I got one setup on the brake and had great results! Now I can separate road and rumble to the Dayton and single out wheel lock on the pedal itself.
@@kevin_m Cool, saw your pic.👍
I used one of these for the brake; i found that the membranes/springs onto which the screw-plate is mounted are not the most durable as 2 of the arms snapped after only a few months of use (which may be down to me overstressing them somewhat); switched it out for a dayton audio fabric membrane mini puck; works a treat!
the exact model i use now is the following: Dayton Audio DAEX25VT-4 Vented 25mm Exciter 20W 4 Ohm
Useful stuff, cheers for that feedback. Might check out one of those Dayton exciters in the future.
@@SimRacingCorner no problem, for reference, I'm using the nobsound mini bluetooth/usb amp, probably the same one everyone else is using, with the big knob on the top of it.
Well, it looks like I'm not the only Sim Racing enthusiast with an adorable tuxedo cat! 🐈
We are so lucky to have decent haptics like the simagic without the DIY
More companies will soon follow
What a time to be a sim racer
The best upgrade to sim rig !!!!!
Nice mod. I modden a Logitech Xbox G920 wheel to work with PC using Arduino Pro controllers making the resolution from 0-100% throttle, brake and clutch is now 4096 steps of res from 0-100 input compared to the 256 steps of original resolution. Giving me much better throttle control and break control. This seems like a good next step. Considering building a motion rig ofc
The only issue I can think of is with wheel slip its not just longitudinal (wheelspin) that comes through but also lateral slip. Now you actually want a little lateral slip to be fast, so backing off to the point that you get no vibration could make you slower. Im running a shaker under my pedal deck just for the brakes. it works well, although rumble motors would be better
I've got the parts on order to try this - I think you're right with the lateral slip, I think the point would be more get used to that feedback and act accordingly - once you're dialled in you would know where that feedback was coming from I think. Either way I'm super keen to try this I think it will be awesome! I have 2x BST-2's under my pedal plate atm and while they're great you just cant feel the difference - so I'm gonna run a mono under the plate and then 2 of these on the pedals. Looking forward to it :)
so rumble is better go than shaker?
No, rumble motors aren't better. Rumble motors are slower to respond and only have very narrow frequency range and amplitude, when compared to a base shaker/ exciter.
Good stuff, thanks for this video. Did pretty much exactly this on trhustmaster t3pa pedals, bit awkward attaching to the pedals but awesome upgrade now its done.
My idea is (after wathing this video... and thank you!:) ) when I build my alu sim rig with gt dd pro... To connect these two exciters on my pedals and put 4 Dayton Audio TT25 PUCK and put them on 4 corners to simulate every wheel... and play with settings to make the best experience as I can.
I don't know if you've seen my Dayton Audio TT25-8 videos. If not, have a look, the Daytons aren't super powerful but can work well if used in the right setup. ruclips.net/video/Lidrjg8i5n4/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/gpidQkAVENc/видео.html.
@@SimRacingCorner Believe me I have watched it many times :) and alot of your videos... on your channel i have seen about transducers and eciters and made a decision to go with "smaller" dayton pucks rather than the biger ones and the money I save to invest in something else to improve the experience... and also about csl pedal mods and have enough information to know in what to invest my money in my new upcoming sim rig. :) Great videos! Very detailed and useful every time!
I can see the clutch having some vibration and feel to it. Clutch chatter and all. Also maybe the brake. But the gas and or brake I don't think in a real car would ever have vibration unless there was a problem?
I so hope some figures out how to control Logitech TrueForce and Fanatec's FullForce via sim hub that would be fantastic to use them along with this to all work together.
Can anybody show his "Final" settings? (Amp power, Simhub effects and %, and Frequency) id be glad to test them
Thanks a lot for this tutorial and this Idea. I am an electrician and yeah, it will work but looks pretty unusual^^ My question: does the Tape still holds the shakers???
Sort of; with the help of wedges made from folded paper down the side.
your cat sounds like a sweathearth
Hi. Great video. I've just mounted Dayton DAEX25 exciters to my Fanatec CSL pedals, but I'm having trouble with the detailed settings in Simhub. Is there guide for the settings?
Hello, excellent vídeo. Do you know if Is it possible install on PlayStation 5? Thank you
thank you very much for sharing your experience. I just ordered mine. Do you know if there are adapters for the heusinkveld sprint pedals?
Nice, simple and efficient ! And cheap ?
I cannot find out, because the links in the description are broken (site not available). May be they're outdated ? Could you check please ?
Just tested, the links are just fine.
These or TT25's?
Update: I bought both. The TT25's are FAR better. Dayton TT25's have a more realistic rumble effect. Whereas these AliExpress shakers (I bought the 25 Ohm version from this video) feel more like a cellphone vibration.
The only drawback of the Dayton TT25 would be their size. But I easily made some DIY wooden brackets to fit the shakers to my T-LCM pedals :)
Hi. Is it possible to the your mod to install TT25 on your TLCM ?
I would like to mount of these bass shaker on my pedal as well after watching your video. May I know what type of these extend wire connect to bass shaker? zero knowledge about these all wiring. need to study more I guess lol
Just normal 12 gauge speaker wire is fine
This is great. I've been seeing more of these videos popup and I'm really curious to try it out this weekend even. Question though, what if I want to add more of these sound exciters? Do I just get another amp like the one you have or is there something with more channels to connect to? I saw someone using them for sequential shifting and handbrake feedback and I really wanna try it. I'll need 4 exciters in total, maybe even 5 (one for the clutch). Thank you! Liked and subbed.
Hi there, and welcome. These small amps only come with 2 channels, so you can buy more of these to add more exciters, that works. Or buy a larger multichannel amp, then that will give you more connections. However, that's expensive and excessive for this application. So just use another mini amp, that's the way to go.👍
@@SimRacingCorner thank you! I'm going to try this out for sure as soon as I figure out how to mount them on my pedals 😅
Mine just came in and I have some ideas 😁😎
The amp and exciters in the video are they 8 ohm or 4 ohm?
Parts list in the description points to the pages where you will find all the details.
Great video! Curious, what size thread is on the exciter which screws into the exciter base plate?
#10 coarse
Merci pour cette très belle vidéo .Je ne connais rien a l'électrique je voudrais savoir que lorsque je vais sur le site (Aliexpress)pour acheté un mini haut parleur je vois qu'il y a plusieurs puissance de mini haut parleur je voudrais savoir que si je prend le plus puissant des 4 mini haut parleur si il ni a pas de problème pour mon Nobsound Mini Bluetooth 5.0 TPA3116 amplificateur numérique Hifi récepteur Audio stéréo amplificateur de puissance 50W + 50W amplificateurs de son de voiture. L'autre question je voudrais savoir actuellement sur mon système j'ai un autre amplificateur externe avec un autre BASS SHAKER DIFERENT de celui que tu nous a présenté dans ta vidéo l'amplificateur s'appel le (fosi audio) il ressemble a celui que tu nous a présenté dans ta vidéo donc cela me fera 2 amplificateur externes DIFFERENTS le mien et le tien plus mon casque sur la troisième sorties de mon ordinateur celas peut t'il marcher avec simhud je te remercie
I couldn't get mine to work at all with two different nobsounds so I ordered something from Dayton audio and we'll see. Idk what I'm doing wrong lol
Have you watched this? ruclips.net/video/P-ux6Eyn-mk/видео.html
@@SimRacingCorner thank you. Turns out the transducers I bought just don't work but the ones from Dayton work perfectly. I spent all day yesterday mounting them to the bottom of my pedals. Now I'm watching this again to remember the software part!
Next is a vocore screendash build based on your other video! =D
Hey boss, how do these compare to the puck shakers?
Pucks i think are better.. but it mainly depends on your amp.. if u get shitty amp and anything will suck.. lol
Hey SimRacingCorner, great vid! I got the CSL pedals a couple of months ago. I decided I would do the bass shaker mod. Was going to order the parts together as aliexpress is on the other side of the world to me.
But I was rummaging through a mates parts box I saw he had a mini power amp, but is does not have Nobsound printed on it so I assume it is a clone. Should this work or do you think I should order the Nobsound?
Cheers.
Any mini amp is suitable. Just check the ohm rating on the amp (it's should be labelled on the amp) and get mini exciters that match that.
Hey, are you still running this setup? I have read in a few places these cheaper shakers tend to fall apart? Have you had any issues? Thanks
Curious how these compare to the dayton pucks?
Nobsound FTW
Quick question about these?
Should they be getting hot?
if not, how to prevent it?
Thanks in advance
If they're constantly working, then they can warm up (all transducers will). Try running the volume a little lower.
Is this software and setup something that can be adapted for console gamers?
Shrinkwarp the connections!
Which ones would better or are the daytona pucks still better especially riving with shoes?
I would go with Dayton pucks if possible, but they are larger.
Would you prefer smaller ones attached to each pedal or a larger BST1 placed under the pedal tray?
I prefer this style of mod, it feels more connected and distinct with the effects coming through the pedals directly, rather than under my heels.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks.
Hey man, do you know what size the male thread is between the holder and the exciter. Is it an M4 or M6?
According to Ali Express they do not ship to the UK for the transducers. Can you think of an alternative
I've just checked the link that I previously posted under the video, and it doesn't seem restricted, and I'm in the UK too.
@SimRacingCorner weird just rechecked and get the following "This product can't be shipped to your address.
Select another product or address. " however have found them on amazon, more expensive but get them tomorrow
@@Petrolhead66 Yeah, that is weird.
Can you disassemble down to the guts of the exciter and solder in some heavier wires with a sleeve?
Some screw heads we're striped, so I wasn't able to look inside, but otherwise I did consider that as an option.
I was able to.
hi, I want to make a such mod for my sim, and want to ask if 25w shakers will be enough or better go with 50w shakers? Will use it with SimJack pedals
Why do you put the small piece of wood between the exciter and the pedals?
The exciters are too wide to fit against the back of the pedal.
Can i use this for pedal and another 2 transducers for racing chair with 2nd amp? Can i get 2 different type effect? One for brake,accelerate on my pedal and other for engine rev,crashing on my chair.
Yes, you can run multiple amps, and tune each shaker to run specific effects.
I want one hooked up to just my clutch, running the rpm output and want it to disconnect when I depressed the pedal..
Hy, thank you for video
for bodyskaker i need 40 ohm or 80 ohm ?
It will depend on your amp and ohm rating it supports. If you're going to run then from a mini amp, then it's likely 40 ohms.
@SimRacingCorner can you link to the banana plugs you went with?
I purchased everything and the banana plugs I bought don’t fit the knobsound amp.
Thanks!
If you search for banana plugs on Amazon, they are all the same fit. That's where I found mine.
Hi again, here for the banana plugs. Is the size of them important? I was looking for the specs but I didn't find any, which ones are you using? Thanks in advance
I'm sure these are all just a universal size, I bought them from Amazon. So just the first ones I found for the lowest price.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks a lot
Can you plug 2 nobsounds in at once? Thanks
Yes
Will this work even if you have a U-Shake6 haptic feedback connected?? Thanks
yes, simhub gives you the flexibility to have whatever outputs you want mapped to whatever effects, and you can run as many outputs as you want
Which is better using these or using the vibration motors out of joypads. I current use joypad motors but wondering if these would be an upgrade.
Transducers are always going to be better than vibration motors generally. In the context of pedals, though, and the single effect being used, it probably doesn't matter too much.
@@SimRacingCorner I read somewhere that the reaction time from in game to physical movement is quicker for inducers. Not sure I believe it.
I would agree, transducers should be able to react faster. A transducer works like a speaker, so consider that as the comparison.
Does sim hub require multiple outputs (audio) to separate these from the other shakers?
If your amp has multiple channels. You can send separate signals/effects to each shaker. I show this in the video
can you do this on PS4? gt7?
Can you tell me which one of the shakers is need from the 4 in the link?
You pick the Ohm rating of the exciter to match the Ohm rating of your amp.
Hey man! Do you think I could use these with my playseat chalenge for cheap bass shakers (back seat and in pedal housing) or would they not be powerful enough?
No, they would be too weak for that
@@SimRacingCorner gotcha, thanks. Would you say in your experience you prefer these or vibration motors for rumble pedals?
Transducers are better. But wouldn't say it's a big deal for this particular task when adding a vibration effect to pedals.
@simracingcorner Hi, did you go with the 4 or 8 ohm and also the 20w or 25w? Thanks
The ohms need to match your amp ohm rating, so that's what matters. Get the 25watt ones.
Do 2 of these work better than 1 dayton TTS puck??
@@MDaDonLegacy maybe
hows it holding up 5 months later?
I've since moved onto other pedal sets to review, so I don't have an update.
Hi mate, I finally did this mod.
But what's weird. Is I only set TC,ABS and wheel lock and wheel spin on rears only.
So I shouldn't feel anything unless I'm losing traction or ABS kicks in.
However, I still feel road vibration and engine rumble...
Has anyone else noticed this?
Only the effects you've turned on in SimHub are the ones that should come through. What game? And have you tried other games to test this.
@@SimRacingCorner yeah Its weird... I'm gonna have to test other games. But so far ive only played through content manager on AC
@@SimRacingCorner OK, so on AMS2 it will only use the 4 effects I've set.
But in AC it will rumble like a PS4 controller to just about everything, yet give priority to the effects I've set.
I really can't figure out why AC is pushing extra effects through that I don't even have enabled.
Under calibration, there's a slider to enable what AC is doing, and it was slid all the way to the option that sets auto effects.
But even after resetting calibration and sliding it all the way to the left (only use predefined effects) it still rumbles as I drive down the road.
I can't say I dislike it but I'd also like to disable it if I want
@@GregoryShtevensh Yeah, that's weird. I know I didn't test these in AC, so I don't have any notes to share on that one.
Is it possible to run two separate amps on simhub? i.e. one for pedals and one for seat.
Yes, If you have two sound cards. One sound card output per amp.
Ok, thanks 😊
I was planning to get Sim 3D rumble kit until I saw this. I am tossing between the dayton TT25-8 puck which has 35W as opposed to a 20W puck that is half the size. Do you find that 20W is strong enough I would love to hear your reply.
Hello there! I did find these small pucks we're strong enough for this job, and their size makes them easy to work with. It was a success. Way back, I did mod another set of pedals with one of those Dayton pucks. ruclips.net/video/vpmBjFbit_A/видео.html. That worked out great too. I wouldn't say it was better using the Dayton, it's just another option. Over the long term, though, I fully expect the Dayton pucks to be more durable.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks for responding to my comment. I ended up buying both to try!
You were right. The soldering on my exciter broke almost the next day. I didn't connect it well enough... I ended witht he dayton tt-25-8. they are much more solid!
I've tried this mod but I'm getting EMI (interference) with my pedals. Anybody having the same problem?
What pedals are you running?
I want Sim Hub to come to steam even if the price is more as willing to pay more as 95% of all my racing titles are on steam anyways
but it doesn't need to be on steam. it runs in the background and just does its thing whenever you launch a title, whether that is from steam or anywhere else
Is there a way I could do this to my csl pedals for ps5. My Buttkicker works on ps5
Basically, yes, the Buttkicker is essentially a larger version of this. Though, of course, you can't isolate the car brake/slip effects. You will be sending game audio through just the exciters, just like the Buttkicker with your PS5.
how are you connecting them to the wood?
Screws
@@SimRacingCorner ok so what is the thread size?
@@roadi7 The holes are small, probably M2. Though you could easily open them up.
@@SimRacingCorner I was hoping they'd be m3 as that's the smallest I have a tap for and would go right to the metal behind the pedal, but maybe they can be made bigger. did anything ever vibrate loose during use?
It held together fine
I FEEL SO STUPID..... I have two of the amps just like yours ... Simhub cannot see them as an output... the pc doesn't see amp, plugged in to usb mini >....HELP ... i have been trying for months ...
Did you fix it?
you have to use the cable, that comes with the Amp, otherwise it won't recognize it
Strap it to the kat!
Помогите купить лицензию simhub. Пожалуйста.
Will these specific nobsound amplifiers work for tactile transducers setup on a console gaming rig? I need to import them and returning them won't be easy
Yes but you won’t have the access to Sumhub on the console. I have a shaker setup on my homemade rig that use for ps4.
@@Chef_BS1 Thanks for reply. Yes I've researched extensively into tactile transducers for console setup. It's a pity that you cannot customise it via software like you can on pc. Which amp are you using and is it very necessary for the amp to have sub output? Just want to make sure I import all the correct items.
@@free_styler I’m using a Nobsound NS-03G sub amp. I tried hooking my transducer up to a regular audio amp and it brought too many high frequencies to the transducer so I got the sub amp and much better. I’m still working on placement and plan to get another sub and amp once I’m done experimenting with this first setup. Btw. Im using a digital to analog audio converter to convert optical to RCAs.
@@Chef_BS1 The Ns-03g only has one channel, is this OK for a setup that includes more than one transducer? I will be using it on a ps5 - no optical. Will use an hdmi splitter. Will definitely be getting an amp with sub output. Really appreciate your feedback. The info on the Internet is very limited when it comes to consoles.
I've tried this mod but I'm getting EMI (interference) with my pedals. Anybody having the same problem?
I've also have Emi with my Simjack pedal using bass shaker like this. I found that grounding the controller unit to the controller housing and grounding the pedal by soldering wire on it fixed it. Note i put it on the pedal base plate as mounting the bass shaker directly
on the pedal still caused interference even with grounding