I've been using daytons as well, on a 4 channel config Front LR and Rear LR. I'm thinking about getting these for the pedals and maybe a couple more daytons for under the seat. That way I would have an 8 ch configuration and hopefully I can distribute the effects bettrer as I have not yet found the right effects setup
@@stevenlarson3316 zip tie to haptics probably not, you can get a 3d print file from yelle or any other site of your choice for your particular pedals and then get it printed from local service. It's cheap, like really. It's a perfect solution for other pedal other than simagic. Zip tie for pucks yeah they work, but you wouldn't believe me if I tell you I'm using a double tape (strong one) for a 25watt sound exciter, and it works wonders !
Unironically the best ASMR video I've seen (well, I don't even watch those, but still) the sound of the elastomers, the motors and the shifts sounds like an industrial machine or something, quite pleasing to hear I think
Thanks for the review. I was about to buy simagic P2000-S100RF pedals, and your review convinced me to take the simagic haptic reactor pack with it. Will go well with the new moza R12 wheel I'm going to take, VR headset I already have, and my geko gs-cobra force feedback seat...
Great content as always! I really like your tear down/ disassemble series. With this, we can see how the reactor works. Actually I build my own DIY reactor, and this video really help to make it better in next build. thank you for the video!
I watched your video and I liked what you did, I'm about to make a shaker like yours! I just want to make the full coil. If you go make an improved system like the simagic one, record this for us!
Your microphone is really good and sensitive. Pick up detail when the haptics are at their lowest output. And thanks for showing there's no delay (or at least me and you can't notice) in them when you locked the brakes on purpose.
Correct me if im wrong here. But theres no reason I couldn't replace a single Exciter (lets say the brake) with one if these, and leave the exciter on the throttle? It looks like these would run off if any amp
Got two little 20W transducers doing the same job myself, 3D printed adapters to mount on my CSL pedals and they work great, can only recommend adding something like that to every rig, especially when paired with SimHub. Only downside is the mounting but when you are into sim racing a 3D printer is almost a must have, especially when they've got so affordable in recent yerars.
Salut Merci pour cette vidéo Une question Je joue sur lmu et les voitures n’ont pas d’ABS Est-ce que ces moteurs haptics vont transmettre des vibrations en cas de blocage des roues lors du freinage ? Mode ta réponse Thierry
Good video, but i disagree on one thing when you compare the sound exciters: (i tried all them mounted on heusinkveld pro pedals using simhub). For me the sound exciters are better option than the simagic haptics and not only in price, in performance too.(some pro and cons). Simagic haptics: 1- lock the pedal on selected Hz, all efects on that pedal are the same, you can not change Hz on effects for that pedal. 2- It are powerfull feel more vibrating on low Hz than the sound exciters (25 W) 3- power suply is 52 v 2 A. (all people using an amp are doing it wrong, as them needs voltage to work properly and an amp only give 24 v normally it does not matter the W of the amp (you can use a 100W or 200W amp and it still doest not vibrate as good as do it with the simagic pcb and powersuply). Sound exciters: 1- You can select every Hz for every diferent effect on the pedal that you wanna ( for example i have 30 Hz on ABS and 60 Hz on wheel lock on,gear shift 45 Hz on the same pedal that give a lot information and can feel the diferent Hz (diferent type of vibrating) while playing. 2- If you choose a (sound sciter aiyima 40W you can choose a 50mm or 65mm i have 50mm) for the brake pedal, it outperform in all ways the simagic haptics, the 40W are a lot more powerfull and vibrates more than the simagic even in low Hz...and do it with a 24v 50 W amps. And if needed sound sciters are in 50w 80w or 100w for still more stronger feedback but really it is not needed..and them makes a lot less noise than the simagic. 3-The price now for a 40w is only 18-20 €, for that price all people searching for sound exciters have to choose them over the 25w that are 16€ the change is so noticiable and its only 2 or 3 € diference..(and the diference is being under the simagic or being on top of the simagic).
I was going to order the simagic but now I am not sure. Are you sure you can't use different frequencies on the haptics. Like if I assign a RPM effect to a gas pedal and want the vibration to rise in frequency from say 30hz to 100hz as the rpm goes up? I thought those settings go directly from the SIMHUB software and are pretty basic for any bassshaker. Maybe you are thinking of only the SIMAGIC software? But, you are not tided to it thought.
@@dusan78 i tried the simagic 4 month ago, and at that time were unable to assign diferent HZ in diferent effects for same pedal. You can only choose one Hz for pedal. (simagic works fine in simhub but unable to change the HZ for every effect only one choose by vibrator pedal). On another note in that time since a i got the exciters i broke 2 aiyima 40w, 1 aiyima 25w (on the aiyimas it brokes on the aluminium sheet that works as membrane and support the exciter) and one dayton EX32VBDS-4 IMS (40W) that broke on yellow membrane. Maybe its that i like high vibration on my pedals and they are strong (hevsinkveld pro pedals), always broke the brake pedal exciters, the gas exciter never breaks i used 25w one and still working fine. But with that experience i suggest to you dont buy exciters if you like strong vibration.. With that experience i will tell you to choose the simagic for reliable reasons they dont break (but you have to live with only one HZ for all efects on each pedal).. Or if you can, go for simucube active pedals or wait that simagic, moza, etc make some variant with engine vibration and cell force detection. Thats what i will be doing next when i found affordable active pedals that works fine and works with simhub if possible from (simucube, simagic or moza).
@@clockterra Oh wow, thank you for the detail! You wont believe but, I also have the same hevsinkveld pro pedals. lol Did you buy the ultimate pedal adapter from etzy to hook up the haptics? I And since I have you here, did you do any mod to pedal specially brake to make it feel better? I also wish I had bigger pressure sensor as well. We should have got the ultimates! Man, I now dont know what to do. I really wanted the feedback on the pedals itself because I currently have bass shaker under the whole pedal section but, it's just not the same and it's almost impossible to differentiate the effects like ABS and TC as it's hitting the whole base. I so wish simucube active pedal was more affordable specially being in Canada. It's $3000+tax for one. But, again 3 haptics and all the parts would cost me about 400-500 canadian dollars. Expensive hobby!
@@dusan78 i did not mount any adapter or mod on them, i mounted them directly: for the exciters you only need to take off the faceplates and insert a m4 or m6 screw in the extra holes depending if you have a 25W (m4 hole) or 40W (m6 hole) and if you go for the simagic reactors you have to take their unviersal adaptor and mount one of the sides updown reversed that way you can screw one of the hevsinkveld pro pedals and attach the simagic reactor. (it worked great when i done it) you can see some youtube videos on that that shows doing it. a side note, the big diference on hevsinkveld pro and ultimates are the dumper if you like it smoothed put a dumper on your pedals, i prefer more direct action and is good as it is. The ultimates had 300 kgs cell (while on pro only are 150 kgs), but in real you adjust the cell on whatever you like depending in how you have mountied the pedals and de degrees of rotation that you have, for example i have mine set to 70 kgs and i think thats enough. There are some french projects on youtube, that shows some people that will sell active pedals for affordable price (now in 3d printed that i'm not interested (price near 700 €) but they told that some people are working in doing metal ones that i'm so interested that will be more cheaper the two pedals (brake and throttle) than one pedal from simucube. I could not helpl in prices in canada, i'm from europe, and here simagic two reactors, motherboard, two universal adapators and power suply cost 250 €. i will wait and pay more for real actives pedals like simucube (new active pro are 3600 € for two pedals) , or more news on the exposed in the german simexpo by moza and simagic that showed there, some active pedals too but i have to know the price and how they works, or the french people project doing active pidals like the simucube but not the 3d printed ones, i wait for the metal ones..
I wonder for Iracing if there's any amount of delay in braking with these using simhub ? I'm planning to get one for myself. Can you or anyone please help? Thanks :)
Hey mate, you said they're not dissimilar to the 25w Exciters/transducers, which is a mod I did after your recommendation (and simcats) of course. Can you put it on a scale if 1 to 10 for me? If these are a 10, how high do the exciters score? TIA ❤
You've put me on the spot, I recorded the exciter mod video two years ago, so my memory isn't sharp on some of the detail. I did have a quick scan of the old video. What is obvious, is the Simagic reactors are a lot more powerful. Without setting it all up again, I'm sure the kind of vibration feedback detail is not dissimilar, but I expect these to have more range (hz) because they are more powerful.
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Haptic pedals are a game changer, I highly recommend them. I'm using dayton audio pucks zip tied to my pedals it's nice to see other option out there.
I've been using daytons as well, on a 4 channel config Front LR and Rear LR. I'm thinking about getting these for the pedals and maybe a couple more daytons for under the seat. That way I would have an 8 ch configuration and hopefully I can distribute the effects bettrer as I have not yet found the right effects setup
I'm planning on doing the same. Are zip ties a good way to mount them? I'm looking for ways to do it. I don't want them shaking loose.
@@stevenlarson3316 zip tie to haptics probably not, you can get a 3d print file from yelle or any other site of your choice for your particular pedals and then get it printed from local service. It's cheap, like really. It's a perfect solution for other pedal other than simagic.
Zip tie for pucks yeah they work, but you wouldn't believe me if I tell you I'm using a double tape (strong one) for a 25watt sound exciter, and it works wonders !
Unironically the best ASMR video I've seen (well, I don't even watch those, but still) the sound of the elastomers, the motors and the shifts sounds like an industrial machine or something, quite pleasing to hear I think
Thanks for the review. I was about to buy simagic P2000-S100RF pedals, and your review convinced me to take the simagic haptic reactor pack with it. Will go well with the new moza R12 wheel I'm going to take, VR headset I already have, and my geko gs-cobra force feedback seat...
Great content as always! I really like your tear down/ disassemble series. With this, we can see how the reactor works. Actually I build my own DIY reactor, and this video really help to make it better in next build. thank you for the video!
Thank you very much!
I watched your video and I liked what you did, I'm about to make a shaker like yours! I just want to make the full coil. If you go make an improved system like the simagic one, record this for us!
@@reiisbrunoo thank you, need experiment with a magnet and the other stuff. The housing etc. It's gonna be a lot of work. 🤣
@@ismail_hobby Yes, a lot of work but in the end it's satisfying to see everything working 😌 I believe in your potential Bro!
Your microphone is really good and sensitive. Pick up detail when the haptics are at their lowest output. And thanks for showing there's no delay (or at least me and you can't notice) in them when you locked the brakes on purpose.
The new simagic software has a lot more options for those reactors for the effects. Unsure if simhub is needed anymore.
Thanks for the best guide for this device on the entire net.
How do 2 Simagic P-HPR pedal haptics on the brake and throttle compare to just 1 DIY bass shaker, like a Dayton BST-1, under the pedal plate?
Which one is good Rumble Motor, bass shaker or sound exciter?
I ended up grabbing same Pedals after watching your review. And probably buying this kit to.😊 good videos
Are these heusinkveld ultimates or sprints?
will you be able to post a video on what effects setting you have enabled for each pedals?
I bought 3 and mounted the 3rd (Clutch) reactor under my pedal plate for effects like road rumble with Simhub
Correct me if im wrong here.
But theres no reason I couldn't replace a single Exciter (lets say the brake) with one if these, and leave the exciter on the throttle?
It looks like these would run off if any amp
Hey trapmire. Ard these worth it if i already have front and back bass shakers?
Also, will you be testing the simagic neo haptic motor things petal?
Sometimes its just better to pay a bit more then mess with diy :D I got 4 of them for brakes (4rigs) and love them. Connected on a cheap d-class amp.
you should use the simagic box instead of the amp...
@@pinkoball4165 If you knew about electricity, you would know that they do the same function, buy the cheapest ones and that's it...
@@pinkoball4165 why? works the same
@@pinkoball4165makes no difference
Are they suitable for rpm? So for higher frequencies?
Great angle, I wonder how the compare to the Slip Angle minis? I'm thinking about getting their 6 pack but this might be a cheaper alternative
SimRacingCorner did you find a way to connect pedal directly to Simagic hub ? That will be really good if it was possible.
Got two little 20W transducers doing the same job myself, 3D printed adapters to mount on my CSL pedals and they work great, can only recommend adding something like that to every rig, especially when paired with SimHub. Only downside is the mounting but when you are into sim racing a 3D printer is almost a must have, especially when they've got so affordable in recent yerars.
Did you used those simagic haptic too?
No, they are too expensive for me, especially when I've already got good haptics from the transducers.
Is it worth even getting one for the throttle?
It's a lot of work but if you have it around consider installing them on the T-LCM
Will you be reviewing the new cheapo ones neos?? If so look forward to it
Reactor eh ?! Wow !! Very nice as long as there's no leak.
can you make a video on how to riassembly the generic usb sequential shifter from ali?
Salut
Merci pour cette vidéo
Une question
Je joue sur lmu et les voitures n’ont pas d’ABS
Est-ce que ces moteurs haptics vont transmettre des vibrations en cas de blocage des roues lors du freinage ?
Mode ta réponse
Thierry
Good video, but i disagree on one thing when you compare the sound exciters: (i tried all them mounted on heusinkveld pro pedals using simhub). For me the sound exciters are better option than the simagic haptics and not only in price, in performance too.(some pro and cons).
Simagic haptics:
1- lock the pedal on selected Hz, all efects on that pedal are the same, you can not change Hz on effects for that pedal.
2- It are powerfull feel more vibrating on low Hz than the sound exciters (25 W)
3- power suply is 52 v 2 A. (all people using an amp are doing it wrong, as them needs voltage to work properly and an amp only give 24 v normally it does not matter the W of the amp (you can use a 100W or 200W amp and it still doest not vibrate as good as do it with the simagic pcb and powersuply).
Sound exciters:
1- You can select every Hz for every diferent effect on the pedal that you wanna ( for example i have 30 Hz on ABS and 60 Hz on wheel lock on,gear shift 45 Hz on the same pedal that give a lot information and can feel the diferent Hz (diferent type of vibrating) while playing.
2- If you choose a (sound sciter aiyima 40W you can choose a 50mm or 65mm i have 50mm) for the brake pedal, it outperform in all ways the simagic haptics, the 40W are a lot more powerfull and vibrates more than the simagic even in low Hz...and do it with a 24v 50 W amps. And if needed sound sciters are in 50w 80w or 100w for still more stronger feedback but really it is not needed..and them makes a lot less noise than the simagic.
3-The price now for a 40w is only 18-20 €, for that price all people searching for sound exciters have to choose them over the 25w that are 16€ the change is so noticiable and its only 2 or 3 € diference..(and the diference is being under the simagic or being on top of the simagic).
Thank you for the detailled comparison!
I was going to order the simagic but now I am not sure. Are you sure you can't use different frequencies on the haptics. Like if I assign a RPM effect to a gas pedal and want the vibration to rise in frequency from say 30hz to 100hz as the rpm goes up? I thought those settings go directly from the SIMHUB software and are pretty basic for any bassshaker. Maybe you are thinking of only the SIMAGIC software? But, you are not tided to it thought.
@@dusan78 i tried the simagic 4 month ago, and at that time were unable to assign diferent HZ in diferent effects for same pedal. You can only choose one Hz for pedal. (simagic works fine in simhub but unable to change the HZ for every effect only one choose by vibrator pedal).
On another note in that time since a i got the exciters i broke 2 aiyima 40w, 1 aiyima 25w (on the aiyimas it brokes on the aluminium sheet that works as membrane and support the exciter) and one dayton EX32VBDS-4 IMS (40W) that broke on yellow membrane. Maybe its that i like high vibration on my pedals and they are strong (hevsinkveld pro pedals), always broke the brake pedal exciters, the gas exciter never breaks i used 25w one and still working fine. But with that experience i suggest to you dont buy exciters if you like strong vibration..
With that experience i will tell you to choose the simagic for reliable reasons they dont break (but you have to live with only one HZ for all efects on each pedal)..
Or if you can, go for simucube active pedals or wait that simagic, moza, etc make some variant with engine vibration and cell force detection. Thats what i will be doing next when i found affordable active pedals that works fine and works with simhub if possible from (simucube, simagic or moza).
@@clockterra Oh wow, thank you for the detail! You wont believe but, I also have the same hevsinkveld pro pedals. lol Did you buy the ultimate pedal adapter from etzy to hook up the haptics? I And since I have you here, did you do any mod to pedal specially brake to make it feel better? I also wish I had bigger pressure sensor as well. We should have got the ultimates! Man, I now dont know what to do. I really wanted the feedback on the pedals itself because I currently have bass shaker under the whole pedal section but, it's just not the same and it's almost impossible to differentiate the effects like ABS and TC as it's hitting the whole base. I so wish simucube active pedal was more affordable specially being in Canada. It's $3000+tax for one. But, again 3 haptics and all the parts would cost me about 400-500 canadian dollars. Expensive hobby!
@@dusan78 i did not mount any adapter or mod on them, i mounted them directly: for the exciters you only need to take off the faceplates and insert a m4 or m6 screw in the extra holes depending if you have a 25W (m4 hole) or 40W (m6 hole) and if you go for the simagic reactors you have to take their unviersal adaptor and mount one of the sides updown reversed that way you can screw one of the hevsinkveld pro pedals and attach the simagic reactor. (it worked great when i done it) you can see some youtube videos on that that shows doing it.
a side note, the big diference on hevsinkveld pro and ultimates are the dumper if you like it smoothed put a dumper on your pedals, i prefer more direct action and is good as it is. The ultimates had 300 kgs cell (while on pro only are 150 kgs), but in real you adjust the cell on whatever you like depending in how you have mountied the pedals and de degrees of rotation that you have, for example i have mine set to 70 kgs and i think thats enough.
There are some french projects on youtube, that shows some people that will sell active pedals for affordable price (now in 3d printed that i'm not interested (price near 700 €) but they told that some people are working in doing metal ones that i'm so interested that will be more cheaper the two pedals (brake and throttle) than one pedal from simucube.
I could not helpl in prices in canada, i'm from europe, and here simagic two reactors, motherboard, two universal adapators and power suply cost 250 €. i will wait and pay more for real actives pedals like simucube (new active pro are 3600 € for two pedals) , or more news on the exposed in the german simexpo by moza and simagic that showed there, some active pedals too but i have to know the price and how they works, or the french people project doing active pidals like the simucube but not the 3d printed ones, i wait for the metal ones..
Instead of the simagic controller, can I use an arduino?
That will connect straight foward tl sinhub also
can you use that box for pedal input and haptic input at the same time then? making it so we need only one box?
If you have Simagic pedals, then yes. But not with these pedals.
I wonder for Iracing if there's any amount of delay in braking with these using simhub ? I'm planning to get one for myself. Can you or anyone please help? Thanks :)
But p1000 are better pedals than simjack or similar no?
Hey mate, you said they're not dissimilar to the 25w Exciters/transducers, which is a mod I did after your recommendation (and simcats) of course.
Can you put it on a scale if 1 to 10 for me?
If these are a 10, how high do the exciters score?
TIA ❤
You've put me on the spot, I recorded the exciter mod video two years ago, so my memory isn't sharp on some of the detail. I did have a quick scan of the old video. What is obvious, is the Simagic reactors are a lot more powerful. Without setting it all up again, I'm sure the kind of vibration feedback detail is not dissimilar, but I expect these to have more range (hz) because they are more powerful.
@@SimRacingCorner ok mate, that helps a lot... Cheers
How are these compared to the tt25 Dayton audio pucks. I have them on my pedals now but if they aren’t much different then I don’t feel like upgrading
These are much better and worth it.
@@BMDubsE93 do you have experience with TT25 or you just assuming?
@@Jnibbs24 haptic is better
Is it necessary to install the simagic software? or simhub sees them anyway
You don't need the Simagic software if you run SimHub
would it be possible to mount these on fanatec csl pedals?
Sure thing, you can find suitable 3D printed brackets for the CSL pedals.
What do you think about new haptic from simagic cost 16$
Those are rumble motors, so not as good as these.
Hi, my PC say Unknown Device, when i connect the box to my PC (Windows 11) Can you help me? THX
Sounds like the controller box is faulty. You'll need to RMA it.
@@SimRacingCorner I have now tried a completely new cable, unfortunately to no avail. Everything is recognised on my wife's laptop (Windows 10). After plugging in the cable, Windows immediately reports that it has found the device and wants to install it. After a few seconds, everything was installed and a test was positive. I think this is due to my Windows 11 system (version 23H2). An unknown device is detected here - actually a typical picture of missing drivers.
What is the connectict ?
Dunno, you tell me?
On SIM hub you can't choose which frequency you want on each effect
Yes you can!
@@SimRacingCorner oh really? I didn't see where