What if DOOM was a Build Engine game?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • DOOM is one of the most important video games of all time as it really redefined the FPS genre that we all know today, it inspired several games from the genre, most famously, Duke 3D, Shadow Warrior and BLOOD.
    These 3 games that I’ve mentioned were powered by Ken Silverman’s iconic Build Engine, which was objectively superior to the DOOM Engine, featuring several additions that the Doom Engine lacked back in the mid 90s.
    However what if there was an alternative universe, where these three aforementioned games were in the Doom Engine whereas DOOM was powered by the Build Engine?!
    Well, in today's video, we're going to cover a DOOM Mod that essentially mimics the essence of the Build Engine games, Nobody Told Me About Id, is the mod any good? Let's find out in this review.
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Комментарии • 72

  • @MrJohnReviews
    @MrJohnReviews  3 месяца назад +6

    Huge Thanks to Can'tSleep for the creation of the Mod:
    Link to the Mod:
    cantsleep.cc/ntmai

  • @ShaolinDave
    @ShaolinDave 3 месяца назад +22

    My best friend, brother and I, made a DooM TC in the mid-90s called “DooM and DooMer”
    I started working on two versions of a sequel, undecided on which way I wanted to go. One was using Duke3D, the other was Quake.
    While practicing, I did move over many DooM levels, including all enemy graphics, to Duke3D. So yeah, technically that was “DooM in Build Engine”, or at least a proof of concept.
    D&Dr is probably still online somewhere. I never uploaded the others.

    • @user-ze6tb4xq5f
      @user-ze6tb4xq5f 2 месяца назад

      Funny how been upset with the newer releases of Doom -2016 and Eternal which I find both retarded, I made some youtube videos called Doomb and Doomber. LOL.

  • @William_D_Frog
    @William_D_Frog 3 месяца назад +56

    can we talk about how cold some of the names for these wads are "Nobody told me about Id" is such a banger name.

    • @MrJohnReviews
      @MrJohnReviews  3 месяца назад +23

      matter of fact the name "Nobody Told Me About id" is also a name of a song in DOOM, in E2M8, so its even more cool when you think about it

  • @HellsAsylum
    @HellsAsylum 3 месяца назад +7

    This mod really went above and beyond, especially with the different movement styles. Also those FMV's are so cool!

  • @dukkemonterier3429
    @dukkemonterier3429 3 месяца назад +23

    All I want now is all the DN3D redone in the Doom engine.

    • @BluntEversmoke
      @BluntEversmoke 3 месяца назад +2

      Could have been done back then with the modified ID engine used for Strife

    • @CMasta121
      @CMasta121 3 месяца назад +2

      Could have sworn that was done already, but maybe the Mandela effect. God we're old.

    • @ursus5868
      @ursus5868 2 месяца назад +1

      There's DN3DooM

    • @dukkemonterier3429
      @dukkemonterier3429 2 месяца назад

      @@ursus5868 Not the game redone.

    • @kraageshmikosevaar794
      @kraageshmikosevaar794 2 месяца назад

      There is GZDoom based port called Raze for Build engine games.
      For me it working much more stable than other ports.
      ruclips.net/video/GT4mZUwuoXQ/видео.html

  • @noice6421
    @noice6421 3 месяца назад +8

    The revenants' ability to fly probably isn't because it was in doom eternal, but because some enemies in duke 3d had it.

    • @BluntEversmoke
      @BluntEversmoke 2 месяца назад

      Strife on a (modified?) Doom engine had mechs that could take off and land.

    • @noice6421
      @noice6421 2 месяца назад +2

      @@BluntEversmoke But the mod is about making everything in the game as close to build games as possible. And also strife was released later than duke nukem 3d.

  • @doomknight87
    @doomknight87 2 месяца назад +6

    Dont forget Doom rebuildt mod, where the doom 2 Maps are reimagined if them were from dn3d

  • @thomasromer5369
    @thomasromer5369 2 месяца назад +4

    3:00 this made me jump from my chair lol 😧

  • @BrandonBlume
    @BrandonBlume 3 месяца назад +6

    Aw....this looks great and I'm sure is super fun, but I thought this was ACTUALLY in the Build engine with sector-over-sector capability (or even room-over-room!), sector effectors, and all that fancy stuff; the actual amenities of a Build engine game. But it's just made to look and behave more like Build. I can't say I'm not let down. Phooey.

    • @MrJohnReviews
      @MrJohnReviews  3 месяца назад +2

      Hey I loved your Grabbag remix of duke3D, fun fact but your remix was used in the Legacy Edition mod of the game.

    • @BrandonBlume
      @BrandonBlume 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MrJohnReviews Ah that's nice to hear. :)

  • @doom0666
    @doom0666 3 месяца назад +2

    Now.i wanna see the levels were like Blood, Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior

  • @jimmy21584
    @jimmy21584 2 месяца назад

    I want to see it the other way round; the rendering of Build engine games always seemed less crisp than Doom to me, so it would be interesting to compare.

  • @DevilMaster
    @DevilMaster 2 месяца назад

    That BFG is an abomination. An inbred child of Doom's plasma gun, Duke Nukem 3D's shrinker, and Shadow Warrior's rocket launcher.

  • @samghost13
    @samghost13 3 месяца назад +1

    Build to the Bone! Even Doom has to praise the Mighty Build Engine!

  • @MetalSonic420
    @MetalSonic420 3 месяца назад +2

    Interesting concept and great video.

  • @jackdarby6080
    @jackdarby6080 3 месяца назад +1

    Would like to see it actually in Build engine.

  • @gonzalocanas8335
    @gonzalocanas8335 3 месяца назад +12

    3:01 eeeeen

    • @TriggerCoder
      @TriggerCoder 3 месяца назад

      I freak out and though someone in the room was talking to me

  • @SnareX
    @SnareX 2 месяца назад

    Build is capable of looking way better. I'm guessing they just learned the basics.

  • @nicolaywoods9817
    @nicolaywoods9817 2 месяца назад

    Pump shotgun looks rough. But as a whole 👍

  • @ZoruaZorroark
    @ZoruaZorroark 3 месяца назад

    hmmm, now i will wait till decino does a playthrough with this mod

  • @SteinerArts
    @SteinerArts 3 месяца назад +2

    This is exactly what we needed! Even back in the day! 💘

  • @impairedtrout6917
    @impairedtrout6917 3 месяца назад +3

    You're definitely underrated dude!

  • @Child_of_woe_1994
    @Child_of_woe_1994 2 месяца назад

    I assume this was used to create the brutal doom mod because they look kinda similar except obviously brutal doom is well brutal compared to this

  • @cubeflinger
    @cubeflinger 2 месяца назад

    I need to see dark forces on this

  • @korg0
    @korg0 2 месяца назад +1

    What source port are you using in the video?

  • @Frey_2026
    @Frey_2026 2 месяца назад +1

    Dookie Nookie,
    He did it all for the nookie.

  • @ED-wf1pu
    @ED-wf1pu 2 месяца назад

    YOU FORGOT ABOUT "Heretic"

  • @Fil_Mo
    @Fil_Mo 2 месяца назад

    it would be great if there was some Readme file on how to actually run this, because I've had no luck so far

    • @MrJohnReviews
      @MrJohnReviews  2 месяца назад +1

      just use GZDoom and move the NTMAiD.pk file on the GZDoom aplication

    • @Fil_Mo
      @Fil_Mo 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MrJohnReviews aah ok, it's been a while that I tried to play old school games, thank you my friend!

  • @reddy64
    @reddy64 2 месяца назад

    what the heck why did your pkutonia map 11 gamepkay look so pale...

  • @samghost13
    @samghost13 3 месяца назад +1

    can't sleep! yes sir!

  • @raiden_is_dj
    @raiden_is_dj 3 месяца назад +2

    YIPPIE

  • @Amberlynn_Reid
    @Amberlynn_Reid 3 месяца назад +1

    What if you got a job?

  • @rambo9199
    @rambo9199 3 месяца назад +2

    DN3Doom is better....

  • @jeremylindemann5117
    @jeremylindemann5117 3 месяца назад

    Hmmm I love the idea but the mod looks like a mixed bag and I think that the design focus may have got lost during the making of the mod.
    The first problem, as I see it, is that the mod is not using the build engine but instead mimicking the feel of it using gzdoom. So, it's still the doom engine but with some behaviour changes. Replicating the feel of the build engine is probably near impossible to do completely.
    Secondly, the mod maker seems to have shifted from recreating the build feel to ramping up the difficulty of the game which is something that doom people seem to enjoy more. So that's going to reduce the build feel.
    I like the idea of this mod and will definitely give it a look but I would really like to see doom actually recreated entirely in the build engine. That's probably a really big undertaking, largely because no conversion tool exists (or can exist) to turn existing doom map files into build engine map files. Almost everything will have to be recreated from the ground up. That's a daunting task that I guess either no-one has ever wanted to do and no-one has thought of doing up to now.

  • @edgardeitz5746
    @edgardeitz5746 3 месяца назад

    You mentioned "Duke Nukem 3D", "Shadow Warrior" and "BLOOD", but forgot to mention "Powerslave"; all four of these games were meant to be 3DRealms releases. But Blood and Powerslave went to other developers...

    • @MrJohnReviews
      @MrJohnReviews  3 месяца назад

      im aware that powerslave exists, but I only mentioned shadow warrior blood and duki nuki because they were the most popular.

    • @edgardeitz5746
      @edgardeitz5746 3 месяца назад

      @edgardeitz5746 I know what you mean; I only mentioned Powerslave because it _and_ the three you mentioned were *all* intended to be 3DRealms games at one point.

  • @entertoby6698
    @entertoby6698 3 месяца назад +4

    If you can see this comment, please like or comment. I'm trying to see if my comments are visible..

  • @DoomnDust
    @DoomnDust 3 месяца назад +3

    First! ❤

  • @Szederp
    @Szederp 2 месяца назад

    Garbage. "Rip and Tear" was never a Doom thing. It was introduced by Bethesda to lure rtrds in. Doom is still Doom...or it is ZDoom.

    • @shinefirex5185
      @shinefirex5185 2 месяца назад +1

      ever heard about the doom comic?

    • @Szederp
      @Szederp 2 месяца назад

      @@shinefirex5185 No and I actually have the unpopular idea that Doom ended with Doom 2. Everything else is just Bethesda - IDSoft garbage that is using Doom's name. (yeah, you are asking why do I bother commenting then....it is because it is all fked up).

    • @shinefirex5185
      @shinefirex5185 2 месяца назад

      @@Szederp well. thats so sad since doom reboot is pretty great IMO. but who am i to judge? it's your choice

    • @Szederp
      @Szederp 2 месяца назад

      @@shinefirex5185 I agree that the Doom reboot is a great game it is just not a Doom game. Again just my 2 cents. It is not a retro shooter, it is a very modern game. Perhaps I'm too old. You have a nice day, I meant no disrespect.

  • @TheFellerHasAChannelGodDamnIt
    @TheFellerHasAChannelGodDamnIt 2 месяца назад

    >Find cool RUclipsr
    >Decide to look at their most popular videos
    >...
    >Oh...

  • @idoblenderstuffs
    @idoblenderstuffs 2 месяца назад +1

    Wait so its not actually made in build engine? Cringe..