The Dwemer: "We don't need the divines or their blessings. We can do better all by ourselves!" Also the Dwemer: "Hey, Lorkhan, if you're not using your power, can we borrow it?"
Imagine being as scientifically advanced as we are today but everyone around us is barely understanding how electricity works. That's essentially how I view the dwemer lol
To be fair, that's how I feel every time I encounter someone who doesn't understand evolution. Or vaccines. Or why it's incredibly stupid to reduce the complexity of human sex and gender to "XX = vajayjay = woman" and "XY = pee pee = man". Or why the Earth isn't actually flat. Sometimes, an entire species dedicated to logic and science doesn't seem too bad. I could do without the slavery, though. Then again, that doesn't exactly seem like something the dwemer logicked themselves into because they already had a cheap, efficient and most importantly perfectly obedient labor force in the form of their animunculi. Who even knows what they were thinking. Maybe they really did mean well, in their own way. Maybe they were secretly as flawed and short-sighted as everyone else, in some regards at least.
@@rebeccaschroder3000 ooo this this this this! I wonder if they have their "culture" then why they didn't tried tk grow their civilisation back up? I mean come on if they are in any way inteligent they should do that long time ago.
@@Psycho7452 the point at which Skyrim is set, is when the Falmer are actually building their own, new culture. You see examples in the Dawnguard DLC in the Lost Valley or whatever it was called. Edit: The Forgotten Vale !
@@Psycho7452 According to the lore, the Dwemer nerfed them by feeding them mushrooms, and they had no option to refuse as they were refugees escaping the wrath of irate Atmorans. By the time the Dwemer vanished, the Snow Elves had generationally degraded to what you know as falmer in 4E 201.
I had a theory on dwarven technology and tools and the metal they are made of. What if the metal isn't specific at all or of high quality. Dwemer used their own type of magic based around sound. So what if the unique attributes are results of sound created by the unique groves in the creation. When you swing a sword the air splitting threw the grooves creating a dwarven harmonic one that makes the blade cutt deeper than it should. A blade clashes with your shield and the sound reverberated threw the shield leaves it reinforced in that moment and that moment alone. When an arrow strikes your armor the sound harmonizes within and without the armor creating a crescendo to reinforce and brace the wearer What I'm saying is that all the dwemer weapons and tools are designed to channel unique sound magic by use of grooves in them.
Their "sound magic" was more mechanical engineering than magic, but I think this theory does have some merit to it. Their "sound magic" machinery has already been proved to exist, so why couldn't it exist on a smaller scale within each Dwemer Ingot. Well theorized.
@@matthewbare255 actually tonal magic is so much more than that, to say that it only applied to their mechanical constructs sells it short in every form of the word understatement. ES lore says that tonal magic is similar to the thum with the exception that instead of words they use sound. Allowing them to do things from carve out mountains to telepathy. Though we know little about all the implications as well as how they performed tonal magic, that why my theory about the grooves in the dwemer tools and armor creating tonal magic was created.
@@nobilisvaga5267 No, I knew that, I was just simplifying the terms in case others didn't know. Thanks, it never hurts to learn more about your favorite game's lore. I've been playing TES games for 15 years, and these RUclips channels point out things I've never noticed, despite having read thoroughly every book I've come across while playing TES games. I must admit, it never hurts to learn more. Have a good day!
@@nobilisvaga5267 My bad. I was trying to say your theory had merit, it could be a correct theory. I was trying to agree with you. My apologies if it came off as otherwise. Have a good one!
If the divines were pissed off at the Dwemer for their creations, I can't even begin to imagine how they feel about Sotha Sil and his creation of Clockwork City and it's fabricants.
Could you guys make a video that summarises the plots of Elder Scrolls Arena and Daggerfall? To me they are kinda blurry (especially Arena) Edit: Redguard and Battlespire would also be cool
Arena: Uriel Septim VII. and his Highest Military General are cast to Oblivion by the Imperial Battle Mage Jagar Tharn who used the Staff of (Order and) Chaos. Tharn also killed his former Apprentice Ria Silmane, and imprisoned Ria‘s own Apprentice, the player Character, for being witnesses. Tharn then took on the Form of Uriel, taking his place for a 10 year period called „The Interregnum“, but the Staff of Chaos was broken into 10 pieces during the process and scattered across Tamriel. However, Ria‘s Ghost helped the PC out of the imperial Prison and send him/her on a quest to gather all the pieces from all over Tamriel, during this 10 year time period. After successfully repairing the Staff, the PC, the „Eternal Champion“, defeated Tharn with it and rescued Uriel and his General End of the main plot
Daggerfall: Uriel Septim VII. sends one of his most trusted Agents, probably a Blade, off to Daggerfall, where the King, Lysandus has been Murdered and now terrorizes the Region as a Ghost. His Dead also caused a might Gap, which several Factions try to fill, including the Worm Cult, the Orcs of Orsinium, Zurin Arctus and his Follower, Hammerfells Royals and Lysandus‘ Mother Nulfaga. The PC, the Agent, picked side with either of those factions, and found and gave them the Totem of Tiber Septim, basically the Key for the Numidium, hidden away by Tiver Septim, causing the Warp in the West, a Dragonbreak, like when the Ancient Tongues banished Alduin to the future. Lysandus was never Killed and the Orcs were accepted as Citizens of the Empire end of the Main plot
I KNEW IT! The soul gems on autonomons function like a battery, I knew it couldn't have been actual souls, because that destroys the gemstone. I didn't expect geothermic energy to be the solution though. I should have made a connection when I researched Ebony, when it was mentioned it is the blood of Lorkan yet simultaneously volcanic glass. No matter how much digging I do, you always seem to find so much more than me. You are clearly the superior researcher the realm of Nirn. Kudos to you good sir!
Actually this would be really cool and now I want this. Some kind artificial life disguised as a regular mortal. Maybe the Dwemer's disappearance caused it to forget that it is an automaton, and you help it remember. Could be a really cool companion quest. And like just for kicks if it could shoot lasers out of its eyes that would be awesome.
You know what would be cool? If we could build our own automata, it seemed like a wasted opportunity that the mage at Riften planned to make one, and never happened in the end (would've been a nice way to introduce automata building). Kinda the same system as in FO4.
Another reason for Arniel's disappearance could have been that he only had Keening. After all, Wraithguard was meant to protect the wielder of the other tools from the raw, untamed energies of creation.The Dwemer likely had other methods that used tonal architecture which could protect them when attuning Lorkhan-gems, with Wraithguard being a massively upgraded version of those protections. Without the other protections, Wraithguard could have been enough to protect a mortal from attuning a heat-powered soul gem with Keening. With both Wraithguard and Keening, as well as Sunder and tonal architecture; attuning larger gems would become far more practical. Kagrenac likely thought that these enhanced protections would be enough to protect against working with the Heart, or was desperate to finish his works during the war with the Chimer, and thus underestimated the profane power at play, leading to a massive divine backlash that erased all Dwemer on Nirn. Had he been more careful, or had he created an entire suit of armor with the same techniques used to craft Wraithguard, he may have been successful, and the Dwemer could have persisted.
I love dwemer lore and speculation. But the thought of them blaspheming and then the ultimate blasphemy doesn't sit right with me. Lots of races etc have committed acts alot of gods would consider just as bad and they haven't disappeared. I bet Bethesda doesn't even know what happened with the dwemer yet, and haven't had to figure it out yet because the mystery grabs people more than knowing what happened
FudgeMuppet misinterpreted Baladas's explanation. What he actually says is that the Dwemer were able to reverse engineer creation/divine emanation using their knowledge of tonal architecture combined with the ability to manipulate the earth bones (Ehlnofey.) To understand what this means, this you have to know about the chain of being, which is a metaphysical concept that originated with our Plato. To put it shortly, the monad/godhead projects its own consciousness outward, resulting in emanations that become further and further profaned until they reach the final and lowest level, which is manifestation (the material world.) As he puts it, the "sacred willing itself onto the profane." Baladas explains that the Dwemer were able to reverse this emanative process and go beyond the material realm, back into the realm of the timeless absolute (and possibly even beyond it.) This process of reverse emanation is referred to by Baladas as anti-creation, or the act of producing the sacred from the deaths of the profane. So the Dwemer didn't so much disappear as they were able to unmake their material form and ascend back whence they came into the immaterial realm before the creation of Mundus. Exactly how successful they were is still up for debate. Maybe they were able to escape the mind of the godhead and become a collective godhead, or perhaps they're floating around in Aetherius somewhere, or maybe they've been subsumed into some immaterial principle like Anu or Padomay or time itself. Maybe a good way to look at it is that the Dwemer were able to accomplish what the Thalmor desire for the Altmer, but without destroying Nirn, and possibly to an even greater degree than the aims of the Thalmor.
@@Thes4LTSo they basically succeed in what Altmeri dominion is trying to achieve. I always knew that those yellow-skinned morons are worthless and dig in the wrong place
They weren't "evil" for the sake of being "evil". They simply wanted to pursue knowledge for their own good. Wether they had to take it from daedra or aedra, it didn't matter who they were. They treated them all as different beings in the same world, instead of making distinctions between gods and demons and mortals. They simply didn't care. In this sense, yes, they were neutral.
@@nuclearshorts1243 lol... Though error in your galaxy brain... They not midgets. Because; Um actually, the word Dwarf in Tamriel does not refer to dwarfism and is actually just a common tongue way of saying Dwemer. *shifts glasses into place just right, so glare obscures eyes* Danni desu ga?
I do however feel that Arniel's disappearance is likely different from that of the dwarves. Considering it was not the actual Heart of Lorkhan, and he only had one of the three tools, I believe this was actually a similar, but different result to what happened to the Dwarves. Where the difference lies however, is anyone's guess.
It would be interesting if the Dwarves return in space ships and they’d been transported to another planet. Imagine mothership Zeta but you have a sword and no concept of laser guns.
That was an excellent video indeed, and the geothermal explanation made perfect sense. But I felt like you left some interesting things out of the picture. For instance, the Mantella, the special gem that Tiber Septim used to power the Numidium, and Aicantar's experiments on the automatons with his dwarven spider. I think these topics would be more than valid to cover on the video.
I recall hearing that the scholar Neramo developed a method of altering the will of automatons, helping to prevent them from shutting down outside of their homes.
I would really like to be able to make Automatons and use them as companions in the next game, yes, i know there are mods for it(and the 2 steadfast in e dragonborn DLC, but those are not essential and don't have much lore/power), but i wanted a good lore about it, imagine been able to be a leader of a fully automaton city, or to make new ones
What did the dwemer eat? I've gone spelunking all around many of their ruins, and never found anything g resembling a farm, at least what I would recognize as such. Did they pull food from Oblivion? Did they have hydroponics? Did they sell jemstones and metals to the surface for food? Did they twist their bodies so they needed to eat very little food?
In my playthroughs whenever I go through dwemer ruins I try to gather as much dwarven metal to make ingots as I can, I then make lots of dwarven arrows to sell which not only greatly improves my smithing skill but also speech cause you can get so many that you have to do lots of buying and selling to get rid of all the arrows.
I rarely comment but I have been watching you guys since the very beginning and I have to say scott, this intro might be the best thing youve ever written. Well done
@@jp8973 be glad that means you havegone deep enough down the rabbit hole to see the underlying madness. Or seen the really trippy ass animated video based on said madness.
Something I want to note on Arniel's disappearance: the power of Keening itself. Supposedly you would die if you wielded Keening or Sunder without Wraithguard, you would die. In skyrim however, that is not the case. And, if you equip Keening before giving it to Arniel, you get a debuff called "moral wound" which actually is a negligible debuff that takes away a small amount of health. However once Arniel uses it, you no longer get the debuff. I think its flat out of power at this point, and that is why only Arniel is affected. The out of power idea is reflected pretty well by the factthat Keening's enchant only works once and can't be recharged, although I'm fairly sure that part is a bug (although they never fixed it, so maybe it is intended?)
The thing with Arniel makes me chuckle a bit, I picture a whole bunch of Dwemer sitting around at wherever they ended up, and then for no reason Arniel just pops into existence right in front of them, his expression some combination of confusion, joy, realization, and abject terror. A few of the Dwemer get up to help Arniel steady himself and try to answer the many questions he probably has, while rushing him to whatever they have resembling an infirmary. I do hope they come back though, we need to know what really happened
Search a fan made animation about Falion meets the Dwemer, that's basically what gonna happen to Arniel, except he stayed forever unless we summon his shade.
What I found interesting is that the ancient falmer are quite the polar opposite of the dwemer. The falmer bask in the sunlight of the gods, while the dwemer shy away from it.
I think the cool thing about them is that they advanced so much that they have magical constructs that fight their enemies and yet they still choose to fight alongside their creations
I believe the Dwemer were not *punished* but something simultaneously more esoteric and scientific. As the Heart of Lorkhan is tied to the fate of creation, in the way the stones of the towers are, striking it struck the very fabric of reality and created a miniature dragon break - a paradox that nullified the Dwemer from existence. Arniel Ganes stone was small and acted as a window just large enough to "access" his own assured existence, not the whole Breton race. It's the same thing involving the Thalmor, the Warp in the West, and all the other interdimensional, ontological reality screw-ups in the setting.
I love how these video's always blow my mind and FINALLY answer questions I have had for years. Why do Skyrim Animunculi have soulgems as a power source, while those in Morrowind don't? A design oversight? or is it the power of the heart of Lorkhan that powers them? That also begs the question, after the events of Morrowind, the Heart vanished when the Nerevarine struck it. It can't be destroyed, so it likely relocated itself somwhere. But what does that mean for the Animunculi in Morrowind? Did they grow weaker, or even stop functioning alltogether? Could the location of the heart be traced by moving around a Morrowind made Animunculi all over Tamriel, and see where it becomes responsive again? Moreso, could Heartstones serve as a stable power source for Animunculi?
Soul gems and heart stones alone are not enough to bind the energy basis to the metallurgical tonal chassis. Generally speaking, jewels within the gyroscopic stabilization act as the regulatory units for the whole, sustained by the specific size of the soul gem, by the purity of the applied jewel.
In our world, the polymath Nikola Tesla was attempting to initiate the Wardencliff project, where free AC hydro-electricity was wirelessly provided to the immediate locale. That would be similar in practice to the electromagnetic emissions of Morriwind due to Lorkhanthmic providence. The automatae of Skyrim and elsewhere could only function by internal, replicated energy storage of a similar origin.
Yeah that's why I think the gods are being overlooked in the mystery of their disappearance. Possibly forcing the snow elves to abandon the gods. In exchange for protection. Which could warrant a punishment for them and the snow elves. The automatons are a oddity. The presence of a soul gem. Makes you think the process could be related to enchantment.
My theory is that all the dwemer's efforts were noticed by Jyggalag and that deity transported the entire race to his realm in a future time; created at some point after his release from his imprisonment within the form of Sheogorath. The tonal experiment that cause the dwemer to vanish acted like something of a signaling device, which Jyggalag used to home in on and therefore retrieve them from an ideal point in time where they'd make the perfect subjects. Honestly, they're a match made in oblivion... ✌
I live in southern Oregon and my town is partly on fire currently, I'm just waiting to see if I have to evacuate or not. Watching this video in the meantime is so therapeutic. Thank you ❤
I hate so very much 2 be kind and respectful 2 people - but Michael absolutely killed during z last podcast. I won't go into detail, but when Scott suggested that spellbreaker was 'dwemer like", the slight tilt that Michael made with his head (body language is what I do), he basically shut my wretched, despicable mouth. I had nothing 2 say. He didn't earn my respect - he took my respect! That's all 4 today. Do not stop doing what u do, gentlemen.
I used to think those machines are powered by souls because there always soul gems found in them, by means they're like golems. But then Soul Cairn tell how soul gems really work which means there must be some complicated programming involved otherwise there's no way they have an AI. since they always steams coming out, I guess it is like clockwork, the steam move the turbine that move the clock. Soul gems are use to heat water creating steam, but there's no water inside them, where the steam come from?
If we have magicka absorption, we will find out that the steam is actually magic, there is a chance we will absorb it. Perhaps the steam isn't "steam" at all but magic that look like steam. Maybe it isn't mechanical at all, but magic.
I developed a headcannon while watching this video of not how or why the dwemer disappeared, but a poetic end for them. What if, every time they created an animunculi, they were pulling a soul from some point in the future, and the souls that they were pulling were that of the dwemer themselves, culminating in the final act of Kagrenac pulling one final soul (his own), but also creating the point in time in which all of the dwemer souls were pulled. This doesn't account for there being no bodies and various other holes in this theory, I just thought it would be poetic that they were pulling their own souls from the future, and that they all now live on as only automatons.
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News just in, the people tainted with lorkans power disappear in a feedback loop upon unleashing more of lorkans power. Or did the disappearance begin the reserection of Lorkan, with the neverines presence being the catalyst for various stages. With the triumvirate being embodiment of Lorkans divine will. And that's why the Daedra are so cut with them.
When looting the sphere and centurion "corpses", I would've liked to acquire the weapons that were built into their respective arms; it would've saved a bit of time before being able to do so.
Something tells me that with Dwemer technology one could build an equivalent to a Metal Gear. A bipedal tank that could launch bombs as powerful as nukes.
Well maybe the Heart of Lorkhan _was_ finally destroyed during the events of Morrowind, but as far as I know, Sotha Sil’s mechanical reproduction of the Heart of Lorkhan still exists within the Mundus, in his Clockwork City, and will infinitely have the power to maintain itself long after the events of Skyrim. Just something to think about 💭 Edit: TES Legends apparently leaves the fate of the mechanical heart up to the player. So it could _either_ remain persisting to this day, or it could've been destroyed.....and we'll never hear about it again because of that. Of course lol 🙄😂
I enjoy symmetry in the fact that the races of the 4th era cannot fully replicate dwemer machines and metal without simply reusing materials the dwarves already made, just as the dwarves could not create life without utilizing remnants of gods.
The thing I love about them is that while they like to think themselves as above other races for their logical and completely scientific way of thinking without the Gods and Magic (as that name) they scorned so much they never could have created their animaculi. Duality of dwemer.
This video is amazing. One thing that I find conflicting though is the fact that the Nerevarine could only wield Sunder or Keening using Wraithguard for protection, otherwise being fatal. What has changed about this fact? Or is it just a bit of sloppiness in scriptwriting for Skyrim? I've always wondered, since I've found Keening myself in the game, but the same rules don't seem to apply anymore. PS. I also found it a bit strange because in my estimation a hero as the Nerevarine would easily qualify higher in a hierarchy of TES, easily above the Dragonborn, nevertheless, he'd be fatally wounded by using Kagrenac's tools, and the Dragonborn would not. You'd honor me greatly with an answer to my dilemma. Cheers!
Kind of ironic how the dwemer didn't believe the gods were more powerful but they were only able to create "life" because of the power that the gods had.
Just my own personal theory about why the automatons stop working when taken too far away from a Dwemer site. I was thinking over what we see in Avanchnzel. To me, it seems like at the core of that "city" is what appears to be a Dwemer "AI", some sort of steampunk / magical computer that stores information and runs the city. So, "what if", the automatons don't have any intelligence within themselves, and instead are controlled by some sort of "central computer" which in most of these cities we never actually see. Each automaton is thus an extension of it, acting as hundreds of hands, eyes, etc. allowing the "great machine" to maintain and defend itself, at least as far as its "programming" allows, depending on the purpose for which it was built and allowing for physical damage that might impair its ability to function (and possibly malfunction). Take an automaton beyond the "control range" of that central computer and it falls dormant because there's nothing controlling it anymore. It still has power, steam, etc but there's no motive force animating it anymore. Return within range, as in the case of the ship captain, and it comes back to "life" because its again in contact with that controlling "intelligence". Just a theory though. Could be fun to play around with, build a mod around the idea.
Fudgemuppet, I’m a big fan I thank you for this video but if I may ask why’s the ost you used in the very beginning of this video? I find it very tranquil
Maybe the dwemer were pulled into aetherius much in the same way magnus left mundus. Perhaps magnus saw kagrenac's act with the heart and recognized the true genius of the dwemer and deigned to transcend them all to aetherius for some reason. He was the architect of mundus after all, with similar interests to the dwemer. If you were a god with such intellect and you noticed an entire race that seemed enlightened above all others, wouldn't you want to have a conversation with them? To acknowledge their greatness?
My question is, are the Dwemer Animunculi in a state of self-construction. Is there a factory that produces and sends them out to defend the ruins, kinda like the Sentinel factories in the Halo games.
The Dwemer: "We don't need the divines or their blessings. We can do better all by ourselves!"
Also the Dwemer: "Hey, Lorkhan, if you're not using your power, can we borrow it?"
hippity hoppity your heart is now my property
Maybe Pelinal found the Dwemer and that's why they "disappeared" lol
@@Druidavet Ha
Do you think they shut themselves underground to get the feel of being an Et'Ada?
@@OmniValor if rumors are to be believed that Pelinal was the incarnation of Shor / Lorkan... its a good possibility that did occur :)
Imagine being as scientifically advanced as we are today but everyone around us is barely understanding how electricity works. That's essentially how I view the dwemer lol
No wonder they thought themselves so superior
To be fair, that's how I feel every time I encounter someone who doesn't understand evolution. Or vaccines. Or why it's incredibly stupid to reduce the complexity of human sex and gender to "XX = vajayjay = woman" and "XY = pee pee = man". Or why the Earth isn't actually flat.
Sometimes, an entire species dedicated to logic and science doesn't seem too bad. I could do without the slavery, though. Then again, that doesn't exactly seem like something the dwemer logicked themselves into because they already had a cheap, efficient and most importantly perfectly obedient labor force in the form of their animunculi. Who even knows what they were thinking. Maybe they really did mean well, in their own way. Maybe they were secretly as flawed and short-sighted as everyone else, in some regards at least.
That essentially IS the dwemer
That essentially was the Dwemer
Bro, this is what it's like.
No other species alive is as advanced as us ;)
What I find curious is how the Rourken Clan vanished to despite not being on Kagrenac’s zoom call.
Lol
Too*
Lmaooooo
Could Hermaeus Mora know what happened to the dwemer?
Of course he does. HM knows everything I wouldn’t be surprised if he knows about other kalpa cycles, the godhead, and has 4th wall awareness
*Dwemers* : "You can't work the Numidium without a soul".
*Tiber Septim* : *inserts Leonardo DiCaprio face
**Cries in Underking**
"Get in the damn Numidium, Septim"
“No traces of conflict.”
Falmer: Am I a joke to you?
Falmer are fucking jokes to be honest
@@rebeccaschroder3000 ooo this this this this! I wonder if they have their "culture" then why they didn't tried tk grow their civilisation back up? I mean come on if they are in any way inteligent they should do that long time ago.
@@Psycho7452 the point at which Skyrim is set, is when the Falmer are actually building their own, new culture. You see examples in the Dawnguard DLC in the Lost Valley or whatever it was called.
Edit: The Forgotten Vale !
@@Psycho7452 According to the lore, the Dwemer nerfed them by feeding them mushrooms, and they had no option to refuse as they were refugees escaping the wrath of irate Atmorans.
By the time the Dwemer vanished, the Snow Elves had generationally degraded to what you know as falmer in 4E 201.
@@rebeccaschroder3000
Well, they weren't always, they used to be cool too, then Ysgramor came and decided to not have morals or honor
I had a theory on dwarven technology and tools and the metal they are made of. What if the metal isn't specific at all or of high quality. Dwemer used their own type of magic based around sound. So what if the unique attributes are results of sound created by the unique groves in the creation. When you swing a sword the air splitting threw the grooves creating a dwarven harmonic one that makes the blade cutt deeper than it should. A blade clashes with your shield and the sound reverberated threw the shield leaves it reinforced in that moment and that moment alone. When an arrow strikes your armor the sound harmonizes within and without the armor creating a crescendo to reinforce and brace the wearer
What I'm saying is that all the dwemer weapons and tools are designed to channel unique sound magic by use of grooves in them.
Their "sound magic" was more mechanical engineering than magic, but I think this theory does have some merit to it. Their "sound magic" machinery has already been proved to exist, so why couldn't it exist on a smaller scale within each Dwemer Ingot. Well theorized.
@@matthewbare255 actually tonal magic is so much more than that, to say that it only applied to their mechanical constructs sells it short in every form of the word understatement. ES lore says that tonal magic is similar to the thum with the exception that instead of words they use sound. Allowing them to do things from carve out mountains to telepathy. Though we know little about all the implications as well as how they performed tonal magic, that why my theory about the grooves in the dwemer tools and armor creating tonal magic was created.
@@nobilisvaga5267 No, I knew that, I was just simplifying the terms in case others didn't know. Thanks, it never hurts to learn more about your favorite game's lore. I've been playing TES games for 15 years, and these RUclips channels point out things I've never noticed, despite having read thoroughly every book I've come across while playing TES games. I must admit, it never hurts to learn more. Have a good day!
@@matthewbare255 your original comment sounded more like a you were rebuking my idea or you just didn't understand what I was implicating
@@nobilisvaga5267 My bad. I was trying to say your theory had merit, it could be a correct theory. I was trying to agree with you. My apologies if it came off as otherwise. Have a good one!
If the divines were pissed off at the Dwemer for their creations, I can't even begin to imagine how they feel about Sotha Sil and his creation of Clockwork City and it's fabricants.
Could you guys make a video that summarises the plots of Elder Scrolls Arena and Daggerfall? To me they are kinda blurry (especially Arena)
Edit: Redguard and Battlespire would also be cool
Yeah and the games don't really feel worth playing imo
Arena:
Uriel Septim VII. and his Highest Military General are cast to Oblivion by the Imperial Battle Mage Jagar Tharn who used the Staff of (Order and) Chaos. Tharn also killed his former Apprentice Ria Silmane, and imprisoned Ria‘s own Apprentice, the player Character, for being witnesses.
Tharn then took on the Form of Uriel, taking his place for a 10 year period called „The Interregnum“, but the Staff of Chaos was broken into 10 pieces during the process and scattered across Tamriel.
However, Ria‘s Ghost helped the PC out of the imperial Prison and send him/her on a quest to gather all the pieces from all over Tamriel, during this 10 year time period.
After successfully repairing the Staff, the PC, the „Eternal Champion“, defeated Tharn with it and rescued Uriel and his General
End of the main plot
Daggerfall:
Uriel Septim VII. sends one of his most trusted Agents, probably a Blade, off to Daggerfall, where the King, Lysandus has been Murdered and now terrorizes the Region as a Ghost. His Dead also caused a might Gap, which several Factions try to fill, including the Worm Cult, the Orcs of Orsinium, Zurin Arctus and his Follower, Hammerfells Royals and Lysandus‘ Mother Nulfaga.
The PC, the Agent, picked side with either of those factions, and found and gave them the Totem of Tiber Septim, basically the Key for the Numidium, hidden away by Tiver Septim, causing the Warp in the West, a Dragonbreak, like when the Ancient Tongues banished Alduin to the future. Lysandus was never Killed and the Orcs were accepted as Citizens of the Empire
end of the Main plot
This
Atomkuh ooh ooh, do Battlespire and Redguard next!! 🙋♂️ lol
I KNEW IT! The soul gems on autonomons function like a battery, I knew it couldn't have been actual souls, because that destroys the gemstone. I didn't expect geothermic energy to be the solution though. I should have made a connection when I researched Ebony, when it was mentioned it is the blood of Lorkan yet simultaneously volcanic glass.
No matter how much digging I do, you always seem to find so much more than me. You are clearly the superior researcher the realm of Nirn. Kudos to you good sir!
To bad the dwemer did not have truly intelligent constructs. I suppose making a brass/bronze terminator was out of the question for them.
Actually this would be really cool and now I want this. Some kind artificial life disguised as a regular mortal. Maybe the Dwemer's disappearance caused it to forget that it is an automaton, and you help it remember. Could be a really cool companion quest. And like just for kicks if it could shoot lasers out of its eyes that would be awesome.
Maybe they knew that giving them will and mind will make them a problem.
Sounds like something a synth would say... :P
I think it would be even cooler to stumble upon a Dwermer AI that's housed on a mechanical "computer" large enough to fill a cavern.
Too*
Last time I was this early, FudgeMuppet was still creating builds.
What do you build when all the builds have been built. Biltong.
@@Im-the-greatest SA?
You know what would be cool? If we could build our own automata, it seemed like a wasted opportunity that the mage at Riften planned to make one, and never happened in the end (would've been a nice way to introduce automata building).
Kinda the same system as in FO4.
How long will that take ?
@@aryaanxp3876 there is probably already a mod for it.
@@zesky6654 dwemer certified lets you repair and modify dwemer constructs for use as followers
@@zesky6654 time lost dwemer a deep elf race allows it
Another reason for Arniel's disappearance could have been that he only had Keening. After all, Wraithguard was meant to protect the wielder of the other tools from the raw, untamed energies of creation.The Dwemer likely had other methods that used tonal architecture which could protect them when attuning Lorkhan-gems, with Wraithguard being a massively upgraded version of those protections. Without the other protections, Wraithguard could have been enough to protect a mortal from attuning a heat-powered soul gem with Keening. With both Wraithguard and Keening, as well as Sunder and tonal architecture; attuning larger gems would become far more practical. Kagrenac likely thought that these enhanced protections would be enough to protect against working with the Heart, or was desperate to finish his works during the war with the Chimer, and thus underestimated the profane power at play, leading to a massive divine backlash that erased all Dwemer on Nirn. Had he been more careful, or had he created an entire suit of armor with the same techniques used to craft Wraithguard, he may have been successful, and the Dwemer could have persisted.
I just started playing this game about a month ago, it only took a couple ruins to have them captivate me.
Which one? Skyrim, Oblivion, morrowind?
@@gaiusmanus7959 theres no dwarven ruins in oblivion
@@elijahlawson4365 I read his comment wrong i thought he said runs instead of ruins
@@gaiusmanus7959 lol and darn auto correct
I love dwemer lore and speculation. But the thought of them blaspheming and then the ultimate blasphemy doesn't sit right with me. Lots of races etc have committed acts alot of gods would consider just as bad and they haven't disappeared. I bet Bethesda doesn't even know what happened with the dwemer yet, and haven't had to figure it out yet because the mystery grabs people more than knowing what happened
FudgeMuppet misinterpreted Baladas's explanation. What he actually says is that the Dwemer were able to reverse engineer creation/divine emanation using their knowledge of tonal architecture combined with the ability to manipulate the earth bones (Ehlnofey.) To understand what this means, this you have to know about the chain of being, which is a metaphysical concept that originated with our Plato. To put it shortly, the monad/godhead projects its own consciousness outward, resulting in emanations that become further and further profaned until they reach the final and lowest level, which is manifestation (the material world.) As he puts it, the "sacred willing itself onto the profane." Baladas explains that the Dwemer were able to reverse this emanative process and go beyond the material realm, back into the realm of the timeless absolute (and possibly even beyond it.) This process of reverse emanation is referred to by Baladas as anti-creation, or the act of producing the sacred from the deaths of the profane.
So the Dwemer didn't so much disappear as they were able to unmake their material form and ascend back whence they came into the immaterial realm before the creation of Mundus. Exactly how successful they were is still up for debate. Maybe they were able to escape the mind of the godhead and become a collective godhead, or perhaps they're floating around in Aetherius somewhere, or maybe they've been subsumed into some immaterial principle like Anu or Padomay or time itself.
Maybe a good way to look at it is that the Dwemer were able to accomplish what the Thalmor desire for the Altmer, but without destroying Nirn, and possibly to an even greater degree than the aims of the Thalmor.
@@Thes4LTSo they basically succeed in what Altmeri dominion is trying to achieve. I always knew that those yellow-skinned morons are worthless and dig in the wrong place
So was this the motivation behind Sotha Sil and his Clockwork City and his many dwemer like creations
Yes. He build a second Heart of Lorkhan, thus reversing the process of divine emanation and creating the sacred out of the profane.
I could sit and listen to these guys talk about the Dwemer for hours. I am obsessed with the Dwemer.
I like how the dwemer aren’t painted as good or bad, but rather a neutral lost civilization.
I would never say they're exactly "good" though
@@Geeler yeah the falmer thing is a bit bad but dwemer are fine
@@cnut7383 I meant morally too, they don't really about others as far as I know
They are certainly portrayed as cruel in Skyrim, via comments from various NPCs.
They weren't "evil" for the sake of being "evil". They simply wanted to pursue knowledge for their own good. Wether they had to take it from daedra or aedra, it didn't matter who they were. They treated them all as different beings in the same world, instead of making distinctions between gods and demons and mortals. They simply didn't care. In this sense, yes, they were neutral.
Normies: Dwarves
Real Lore Buffs: _Dwemer_
True Lore Buffs: the deep elven folk
True 500 IQ galaxy brains: robot midgets
@@nuclearshorts1243 lol... Though error in your galaxy brain... They not midgets.
Because; Um actually, the word Dwarf in Tamriel does not refer to dwarfism and is actually just a common tongue way of saying Dwemer.
*shifts glasses into place just right, so glare obscures eyes*
Danni desu ga?
I do however feel that Arniel's disappearance is likely different from that of the dwarves.
Considering it was not the actual Heart of Lorkhan, and he only had one of the three tools, I believe this was actually a similar, but different result to what happened to the Dwarves.
Where the difference lies however, is anyone's guess.
It would be interesting if the Dwarves return in space ships and they’d been transported to another planet. Imagine mothership Zeta but you have a sword and no concept of laser guns.
That was an excellent video indeed, and the geothermal explanation made perfect sense. But I felt like you left some interesting things out of the picture. For instance, the Mantella, the special gem that Tiber Septim used to power the Numidium, and Aicantar's experiments on the automatons with his dwarven spider. I think these topics would be more than valid to cover on the video.
I recall hearing that the scholar Neramo developed a method of altering the will of automatons, helping to prevent them from shutting down outside of their homes.
I would really like to be able to make Automatons and use them as companions in the next game, yes, i know there are mods for it(and the 2 steadfast in e dragonborn DLC, but those are not essential and don't have much lore/power), but i wanted a good lore about it, imagine been able to be a leader of a fully automaton city, or to make new ones
Last time i was this early, lorkhan still had a heart.
Ill assume at least one player has picked up Keening and struck the crystal with no results :)
Yep did that yesterday
Yes I did it
Yup.
I was disappointed :c
As soon as Arniel disappeared, I struck the gem. Guess the essence of it was depleted in Arniel’s attempt.
What did the dwemer eat? I've gone spelunking all around many of their ruins, and never found anything g resembling a farm, at least what I would recognize as such. Did they pull food from Oblivion? Did they have hydroponics? Did they sell jemstones and metals to the surface for food? Did they twist their bodies so they needed to eat very little food?
There's a farm in blackreach and it grows various mushrooms
In my playthroughs whenever I go through dwemer ruins I try to gather as much dwarven metal to make ingots as I can, I then make lots of dwarven arrows to sell which not only greatly improves my smithing skill but also speech cause you can get so many that you have to do lots of buying and selling to get rid of all the arrows.
'Wow that a cool looking soul gem you have there'. 'Get fucked mate this is a mini-heart of lorkhan'
"I love books this basement is treasure trove."
I rarely comment but I have been watching you guys since the very beginning and I have to say scott, this intro might be the best thing youve ever written. Well done
Since we dont know where the dwemer come from is it possible they are an offshoot of the left handed elves?
You mean Link? He's left handed most of the time. And I think Hyliens are elfs technically.
John Ross that will be really cool
kiomon Zelda: the mystery of Lorkhan’s heart
@@KiomonDuck i think he is talking about the elves from yokuda
@@kingme4201 I was making a lol.
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Awesome! I had wondered why Arniel's warped soul gem could serve as a substitute heart. Very helpful
The lava/magma powered Aetherium forge makes a bit more sense when you consider the idea of needing divine energy to shape the divine mineral
When I first played Skyrim I was amazed by the architecture and their machines even now having played game over and over I'm still amazed
In order to understand the Dwemer machines you must first discover a certain argonian and a tower inside an egg
I dont get it
@@jp8973 be glad that means you havegone deep enough down the rabbit hole to see the underlying madness. Or seen the really trippy ass animated video based on said madness.
@@vonfaustien3957 even more confused now
Something I want to note on Arniel's disappearance: the power of Keening itself. Supposedly you would die if you wielded Keening or Sunder without Wraithguard, you would die. In skyrim however, that is not the case. And, if you equip Keening before giving it to Arniel, you get a debuff called "moral wound" which actually is a negligible debuff that takes away a small amount of health. However once Arniel uses it, you no longer get the debuff. I think its flat out of power at this point, and that is why only Arniel is affected. The out of power idea is reflected pretty well by the factthat Keening's enchant only works once and can't be recharged, although I'm fairly sure that part is a bug (although they never fixed it, so maybe it is intended?)
Yes more Skyrim lore in 2020 just like it never left
Love your videos man and your voice is so peaceful and chill to listen to especially when vibing out about to go to bed
The thing with Arniel makes me chuckle a bit, I picture a whole bunch of Dwemer sitting around at wherever they ended up, and then for no reason Arniel just pops into existence right in front of them, his expression some combination of confusion, joy, realization, and abject terror. A few of the Dwemer get up to help Arniel steady himself and try to answer the many questions he probably has, while rushing him to whatever they have resembling an infirmary.
I do hope they come back though, we need to know what really happened
Search a fan made animation about Falion meets the Dwemer, that's basically what gonna happen to Arniel, except he stayed forever unless we summon his shade.
Fracking hate and love the dwarven ballista. They hit harder than a dragon.
YES LET US AWAKE FROM SLUMBER TO LISTEN TO THIS TALE OF singy soundy elves no one can tell me they are not a race of musical magic bard elves
Damit now i have the image of a Dwemer rocking out on a guitar while riding a giant machine shouting "WITNESS ME!!!!" at the battle of red mountain
What I found interesting is that the ancient falmer are quite the polar opposite of the dwemer. The falmer bask in the sunlight of the gods, while the dwemer shy away from it.
To this day,I see Skyrim and it brings great memories of a great game.
I think the cool thing about them is that they advanced so much that they have magical constructs that fight their enemies and yet they still choose to fight alongside their creations
Your videos make me fall asleep and give me crazy dreams
I believe the Dwemer were not *punished* but something simultaneously more esoteric and scientific. As the Heart of Lorkhan is tied to the fate of creation, in the way the stones of the towers are, striking it struck the very fabric of reality and created a miniature dragon break - a paradox that nullified the Dwemer from existence. Arniel Ganes stone was small and acted as a window just large enough to "access" his own assured existence, not the whole Breton race. It's the same thing involving the Thalmor, the Warp in the West, and all the other interdimensional, ontological reality screw-ups in the setting.
I love how these video's always blow my mind and FINALLY answer questions I have had for years.
Why do Skyrim Animunculi have soulgems as a power source, while those in Morrowind don't?
A design oversight?
or is it the power of the heart of Lorkhan that powers them?
That also begs the question, after the events of Morrowind, the Heart vanished when the Nerevarine struck it.
It can't be destroyed, so it likely relocated itself somwhere.
But what does that mean for the Animunculi in Morrowind?
Did they grow weaker, or even stop functioning alltogether?
Could the location of the heart be traced by moving around a Morrowind made Animunculi all over Tamriel, and see where it becomes responsive again?
Moreso, could Heartstones serve as a stable power source for Animunculi?
Soul gems and heart stones alone are not enough to bind the energy basis to the metallurgical tonal chassis. Generally speaking, jewels within the gyroscopic stabilization act as the regulatory units for the whole, sustained by the specific size of the soul gem, by the purity of the applied jewel.
In our world, the polymath Nikola Tesla was attempting to initiate the Wardencliff project, where free AC hydro-electricity was wirelessly provided to the immediate locale. That would be similar in practice to the electromagnetic emissions of Morriwind due to Lorkhanthmic providence. The automatae of Skyrim and elsewhere could only function by internal, replicated energy storage of a similar origin.
I personally thought it was because of the soul gems that almost every automaton has on them when you search them after killing them.
Yeah that's why I think the gods are being overlooked in the mystery of their disappearance. Possibly forcing the snow elves to abandon the gods. In exchange for protection. Which could warrant a punishment for them and the snow elves.
The automatons are a oddity. The presence of a soul gem. Makes you think the process could be related to enchantment.
My theory is that all the dwemer's efforts were noticed by Jyggalag and that deity transported the entire race to his realm in a future time; created at some point after his release from his imprisonment within the form of Sheogorath. The tonal experiment that cause the dwemer to vanish acted like something of a signaling device, which Jyggalag used to home in on and therefore retrieve them from an ideal point in time where they'd make the perfect subjects. Honestly, they're a match made in oblivion... ✌
We all know the dwemer disappeared to Australia where they committed their lives to elder scrolls lore videos
Can you please start doing Skyrim builds again! I really enjoy them and they are fun to play!
Do you want a DIO build? lol
Scott what is a DIO build?
Your channel is still a thing? How can you find so many things to talk about skyrim still?
TES has so much lore lol
And finding new information is common
@@Geeler you right just it is still amazing that his channel is still talking about this stuff
@@rock4glory713 when TES VI comes out he will have content for the entire next century...
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I live in southern Oregon and my town is partly on fire currently, I'm just waiting to see if I have to evacuate or not. Watching this video in the meantime is so therapeutic. Thank you ❤
Whoa stay safe
Make sure you cut or burn all exposed areas around house every 3 months good luck
I don't understand why the Dwemer didn't invent cannons or muskets. They certainly seemed capable of it
I agree but they have crossbows
Or big tanks
Okay so imagine the shapes of the battle droids in Star Wars but with the aesthetics of dwemer
Fudgemuppet is literally the living Tribunal of our Kalpa
and the ending of the words is SCOMIDRE.
I haven’t played Skyrim in a minute. Gotta go back and relive some nostalgia
I hate so very much 2 be kind and respectful 2 people - but Michael absolutely killed during z last podcast. I won't go into detail, but when Scott suggested that spellbreaker was 'dwemer like", the slight tilt that Michael made with his head (body language is what I do), he basically shut my wretched, despicable mouth. I had nothing 2 say. He didn't earn my respect - he took my respect! That's all 4 today. Do not stop doing what u do, gentlemen.
I used to think those machines are powered by souls because there always soul gems found in them, by means they're like golems. But then Soul Cairn tell how soul gems really work which means there must be some complicated programming involved otherwise there's no way they have an AI. since they always steams coming out, I guess it is like clockwork, the steam move the turbine that move the clock. Soul gems are use to heat water creating steam, but there's no water inside them, where the steam come from?
And falmer don’t have black souls.
Hmmm
If we have magicka absorption, we will find out that the steam is actually magic, there is a chance we will absorb it. Perhaps the steam isn't "steam" at all but magic that look like steam. Maybe it isn't mechanical at all, but magic.
my ass
I developed a headcannon while watching this video of not how or why the dwemer disappeared, but a poetic end for them. What if, every time they created an animunculi, they were pulling a soul from some point in the future, and the souls that they were pulling were that of the dwemer themselves, culminating in the final act of Kagrenac pulling one final soul (his own), but also creating the point in time in which all of the dwemer souls were pulled. This doesn't account for there being no bodies and various other holes in this theory, I just thought it would be poetic that they were pulling their own souls from the future, and that they all now live on as only automatons.
Interesting
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News just in, the people tainted with lorkans power disappear in a feedback loop upon unleashing more of lorkans power.
Or did the disappearance begin the reserection of Lorkan, with the neverines presence being the catalyst for various stages. With the triumvirate being embodiment of Lorkans divine will. And that's why the Daedra are so cut with them.
When looting the sphere and centurion "corpses", I would've liked to acquire the weapons that were built into their respective arms; it would've saved a bit of time before being able to do so.
I cant wait for elderscrolls 6 lore to start on this channel
The dwarves, sea elves, and dark elves are the most interesting elves.
But have you heard of the High Elves?
@@fyraltari1889 yes I have,they are douchebags.
But have you heard of the air elves
Ludovic Gelli No. Tell me more sir.
I know I'm old, because all this 'begs the question' misuse makes me twitch. Oh well, language changes. :) Great video!
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
Thats it...
ultrasonic sounds, ones that are loud enough for the machines to get instructions but people cant hear it
Something tells me that with Dwemer technology one could build an equivalent to a Metal Gear. A bipedal tank that could launch bombs as powerful as nukes.
Love. The secret behind the science is love. 🥰
Was listening to this at work and right when it got to 'what happened to the Dwemer?' I got an ad:
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser
Coincidence? I doubt it.
Well maybe the Heart of Lorkhan _was_ finally destroyed during the events of Morrowind, but as far as I know, Sotha Sil’s mechanical reproduction of the Heart of Lorkhan still exists within the Mundus, in his Clockwork City, and will infinitely have the power to maintain itself long after the events of Skyrim.
Just something to think about 💭
Edit: TES Legends apparently leaves the fate of the mechanical heart up to the player. So it could _either_ remain persisting to this day, or it could've been destroyed.....and we'll never hear about it again because of that. Of course lol 🙄😂
lol i love how tonal architecture is just organic chemistry
I enjoy symmetry in the fact that the races of the 4th era cannot fully replicate dwemer machines and metal without simply reusing materials the dwarves already made, just as the dwarves could not create life without utilizing remnants of gods.
16:30 *mouth falls open in amazement*
Has anyone else noticed that the area between riften and windhelm is a super volcano?
No
interesting this is really marvelous work you put on your videos
The thing I love about them is that while they like to think themselves as above other races for their logical and completely scientific way of thinking without the Gods and Magic (as that name) they scorned so much they never could have created their animaculi. Duality of dwemer.
This video is amazing. One thing that I find conflicting though is the fact that the Nerevarine could only wield Sunder or Keening using Wraithguard for protection, otherwise being fatal. What has changed about this fact? Or is it just a bit of sloppiness in scriptwriting for Skyrim? I've always wondered, since I've found Keening myself in the game, but the same rules don't seem to apply anymore. PS. I also found it a bit strange because in my estimation a hero as the Nerevarine would easily qualify higher in a hierarchy of TES, easily above the Dragonborn, nevertheless, he'd be fatally wounded by using Kagrenac's tools, and the Dragonborn would not. You'd honor me greatly with an answer to my dilemma. Cheers!
I clicked on the video and elder scrolls online music plays. Instant nostalgia
Kind of ironic how the dwemer didn't believe the gods were more powerful but they were only able to create "life" because of the power that the gods had.
Hope we see the Dwemer return in future games. I want to play as the newly returned Dwarf race.
I fell there Soul/body went inside the machines they built.. but cant speak to tell us...
Wow I’m donating plasma to help fight coronavirus and see this was uploaded 15 minutes ago perfect
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When is fudgemuppet gonna start selling fudge tho!!!
Just my own personal theory about why the automatons stop working when taken too far away from a Dwemer site. I was thinking over what we see in Avanchnzel. To me, it seems like at the core of that "city" is what appears to be a Dwemer "AI", some sort of steampunk / magical computer that stores information and runs the city. So, "what if", the automatons don't have any intelligence within themselves, and instead are controlled by some sort of "central computer" which in most of these cities we never actually see. Each automaton is thus an extension of it, acting as hundreds of hands, eyes, etc. allowing the "great machine" to maintain and defend itself, at least as far as its "programming" allows, depending on the purpose for which it was built and allowing for physical damage that might impair its ability to function (and possibly malfunction). Take an automaton beyond the "control range" of that central computer and it falls dormant because there's nothing controlling it anymore. It still has power, steam, etc but there's no motive force animating it anymore. Return within range, as in the case of the ship captain, and it comes back to "life" because its again in contact with that controlling "intelligence".
Just a theory though. Could be fun to play around with, build a mod around the idea.
Fudgemuppet, I’m a big fan I thank you for this video but if I may ask why’s the ost you used in the very beginning of this video? I find it very tranquil
Let us also not forget that Gane's soul was bound to The Last Dragonborn.
Spirit stones and by inference, souls are the source of dwemer power, just the same as the rest.
Maybe the dwemer were pulled into aetherius much in the same way magnus left mundus. Perhaps magnus saw kagrenac's act with the heart and recognized the true genius of the dwemer and deigned to transcend them all to aetherius for some reason. He was the architect of mundus after all, with similar interests to the dwemer. If you were a god with such intellect and you noticed an entire race that seemed enlightened above all others, wouldn't you want to have a conversation with them? To acknowledge their greatness?
I think Dwarven metal is ebony mixed with something else to dilute the hardness maybe quicksilver
I'd like to hear some lore about Dunmer strongholds, since there isn't really much that explains them
My question is, are the Dwemer Animunculi in a state of self-construction. Is there a factory that produces and sends them out to defend the ruins, kinda like the Sentinel factories in the Halo games.
I think it's kind of fascinating in The duality of elements machine Life coming from fire but flesh Life coming from water
We were really cucked with the dwarves, so cool, yet we'll never see them. We're just left with their glorious but ghostly citadels.