This Should Be Your FIRST Mod! - Foxbody Mustang Rear Disc Brake Conversion // DIY - How To
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This 1987 Ford Fox body Mustang 5.0 LX Hatchback is getting a much needed rear disc brake swap from the tired old drum brakes it came with from the factory. Upgrading your mustang's rear brakes is one of the best modifications you can do to help your car stop consistently in a more predictable and safe manner. Follow along as I show you how you can swap your Foxbody mustang rear brakes from drum to disc with this kit from @latemodelrestoration
💥If you like this video, you might also enjoy some of my other Foxbody Mustang related Content:
📽 Why I bought the Comp Cam XE266HR: • Why I bought the Comp ...
📽 FOXBODY Mustang 5.0 IDLE ISSUES: • FOXBODY Mustang 5.0 ID...
📽 Foxbody Burnouts & LOUD Exhaust: • Fox Body 5.0 Mustang E...
📽 TOP 5 First Foxbody Mods: • TOP 5 MUST HAVE First ...
📽 Top 10 Reasons to buy a Foxbody NOW!: • Top 10 Reasons to Buy ...
📺 If you like my content and you haven't already, please consider subscribing to stay up to date with my latest videos ⤵️ www.youtube.co...
🔥 KASL Customs Shirts & Hats: kaslcustoms.my...
💥 3D Printed Antenna Delete Plates: etsy.me/3sxfuPM
💥 3D Printed License Plate Bracket: www.etsy.com/c...
✅ Website: www.kaslcustoms.com
✅ Follow me on Facebook: / kaslcustoms
✅ Follow me on Instagram:
/ 92lx5.0
/ kaslcustoms
@92LX5.0
@KASL Customs
🎧 I also co-host a Foxbody/automotive related podcast called: “Rollin in my 5.0” We upload a new Podcast episode every Monday morning. Our Podcast can be found on both Spotify and Apple Podcasts at the links below:
Apple Podcast:
podcasts.apple...
Spotify Podcast:
open.spotify.c...
I upload new videos every Tuesday @ 12:00PM PST (3:00PM EST); and periodically I upload short clips throughout the week.
Thanks for Watching!
#foxbody #foxbodymustang #mustang #kaslcustoms #discbrake #howto #diy
*Please attempt any and all modifications and automotive endeavours discussed on this channel at your own risk*
![Tee Grizzley - Blow for Blow (feat. J. Cole) [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wNLN5xsx5dc/mqdefault.jpg)
![DDG & G Herbo - Nosey [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/I9Ra0Zc2NlQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Yes those brackets are to hold the e-brake lines away from the tire and closer to the LCA. I pieced together my 5 lug, 4 wheel disc brake setup like 10 years ago and simply yanked from little brackets from a 1999 V6 in the junkyard.
I'm more familiar with the junk yard swaps too 😉
The customer is so lucky that you treat the car like it was yours when working on it. Most people out there now will not take the time or go the extra mile. Great job.
Thanks buddy! Much appreciated
The flip side of things is people don't want to pay for quality work either. Many want it cheap, fast and in a hurry.
I keep the drum brakes on mine because it bothers people and kind of upsets them that I haven't upgraded yet 😂
🤣
First... lol
I just did this conversion a few months ago and it is great kit. It does however, have a few short comings IMO. For those of you who don't weld, here is a part # for the e-brake handle that holds the paw in place 1R3Z-2A753-BA. Also, if you are planning on converting don't be surprised if you have a "moaning" sound coming from the rear turning corners or braking. I know they say this kit is supposed to do away with the anti-moan brackets, I wasn't that lucky. Not all anti-moan brackets are the same either. I had to get a 2nd pair that had the U-bolt holes more towards the center because you will have to trim about 1/4" off the ends to get them to fit.
Great info - thanks for sharing
Personally i dont really believe disk brakes are a must depending on the build. Drums will straight lock the tires if adjusted correctly. They hust suffer feim horrid heat disapation, large trucks utilize a drum system to stop a lot of mass...
@KASL Customs how many times did you need to pump the air out of the MC ?
It took about 5 minutes or so
Great DIY video Brother! You made it look easy as usual! 👊🏾👊🏾
Hahaha thx brother! Happy thanks giving 💚
I recently replaced my booster and master cylinder and what a PITA! I planned a weekend for it so the entire week I would go outside and spray all the lines with penetrating oil and they all came off with no headache. I think what I dud was overkill but I been doing it for years. I remember doing the same thing to header bolts and by the time I was ready to remove the header the bolts felt like they were finger tight.
Great video Gary, always a excellent idea to get rid the drum brakes that i can't stand. But is pricey to do, this
is a great video to see what is involved to do this.This is what i want to do for my 97 F150 with rear drums,
same 8.8 rear end, the only difference the added stuff for ABS. Maybe one day or more when i want to tackle
it and spend the funds. Great job as always bud.👍👊
Thank you sir! Very much appreciated!!
Great job
I pieced this kit together probably 20 years ago… I need those brackets to keep the parking brake cables off the tire… they been zip tied to the control arms for over 20 years… lol. I think I used a 93 parking brake handle…. You don’t have to modify it!!! I did under the hood the exact same way you did…I did not change the booster to the 93 cobra… just the master cylinder… and adjusted the rod gutted the proportion valve and used a solid endcap with an adjustable portioning valve… in the same spot you used
Right on!
@@KASLCustoms what really helped out was that my best friend worked at a break parts factory at the time. The caliper brackets… they came from a cobra kit car place that sold the brackets and gave you detailed instructions for this swap and a list of everything you needed… even the fittings
Good video. I did the 5 lug with rear disc brake upgrade. I went with the larger cobra front and back discs. I also got the SN95 kit from LMR that included the 93 Cobra Master Cylinder and got good used 95 spindles from a junk yard. After the 5 lug disc swap, braking was terrible!! After doing this upgrade and running the car, really had to be careful when slowing down as the stock booster cannot boost enough to stop the car and the pedal was super stiff. I purchased a 93 Brake Booster from RockAuto (yet to be installed as the floor is getting fixed). The car just had terrible brake characteristics with the stock 88 booster. I also got lucky with the anti-moan brackets (as another commenter did not), as mine worked.
I can't say if keeping the stock front calipers and just doing rear disc if the booster would be bad or not. I can only confirm the booster upgrade is needed for the 13" front and 11.65" rear disc.
Am I the only person that has no issue with the rear drum brakes on your Fox?
Not criticizing Gary. It was a good video.
No worries at all buddy! Have you had a chance to drive on with a rear disc swap? It might change your mind...
I've had a bunch of these cars and currently have 5. After upgrading front rotors, I can't say I've noticed benefits from rear discs. I will say that I only run them on the street and short tracks. It's my understanding that they do prove better on a track where brake fade might be an issue. I will also say that, while I'm not advocating skipping the c-clip eliminators(or 9 inch ends), a disc brake setup may keep a broken axel from exiting the housing. For 95% of folks, I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze. My pace car has sn95/93 cobrs front brake setup and that car stops on a dime. Anything more is just a waste of time and money (unless you're worried about fade). The title of this video suggests rear discs should be yours first mod. I can think of about 15 others that are WAY more useful. I also understand I am in the minority here lol!
@@mccoma11
Agreed. I like Gary and he has a great channel but it’s not even on my list of “needed mods”
No, you're not the only one.
Night and day difference on my car with SN95 Cobra Brakes on all 4 corners, you can drive the car completely different.
Thank you excellent video
Youre welcome!
Would this work on my 89 town car
I don't think so because isn't the town car a 5 bolt axle?
Wish you were in Ontario. Great work
Thank you!
The first mod should be frame connectors. The second mod should be a torque-arm/panhard bar. The third mod should be 5-lug disc brakes all around. Now it's a drivable car.
Keep saying it but video instructions online at LMR if you would have looked. Tells you all about the concentric rings since I guess you've never seen them before. Oh and the shims too. Would have clued you on the brake lines as well.
I disagree... Mustang II front end suspension, should be your first change on a Foxbody.
Hub centric ring for the 4 lug setup and the kit is made to work on a 5 lug application also, which has a larger flange.
Can you give part numbers or links to the LMR kit you used?
Why? These cars are slow as fudge. I have one. What’s to slow down from?
Hi Gary. Great video, as usual. I put rear discs on my fox over 25 years ago. The only kit at the time came from Stainless Steel Brakes Corporation and it's pretty good except the master cylinder is butt ugly. Any brake upgrade on these cars is well worth it. I've always said it doesn't have to go and it doesn't have to steer, but it damn sure better stop. Looking forward to more Average Fox content. 🙂
Thanks buddy! Yes, I have no idea why SSBC used those old cast masters???
Those rings are hub centric spacer rings, they are meant to do exactly what you did. They are also usedvfor wheels that fit like those rotors did.
Also the brackets are what you used them for. They bolt up just like that on 94-04 stangs.r the ebrake cable.
I would say that you need that shim because the sn95 axles are longer than the fox body
Its actually a hub centric ring that cleans up the slack between the SN95 rotor and the fox axle
@@KASLCustoms I would have thought that all that ring would do is center up the rotor… the 3/4” difference in the axles would have to be made up by the caliper bracket to center the caliper over the rotor
@jasonquinn588 yessir you are correct 👍
Pfft. I've been in the 7s with stone stock brakes.
If you run into a stuck brake fitting and don't need to save the line. Just cut the line off close to nut and put a good 6 point socket on it. It will come right out.
Been thinking about this upgrade on my '86 vert GT. Great tutorial. Hey from Ontario !
Good tip! Thanks buddy
Not only do they suck it makes the fox look cheap. Ford dropped the ball on this as a standard option.
Anxiously awaiting the Rear Disc Brake Conversion Review video!
I can review it for you with one word: “Amazing” 👍
Great install video Gary! Those little rings that you put on the axles before the rotors are actually called "hub centric rings". And they do exactly what they did for you. They center the rotor perfectly on the axle. Lots of aftermarket axles like Strange or Moser have those rings machined right into the axle to centre the wheel also as opposed to centring the wheels with the Lugnuts on the studs.
Thanks buddy!
@@KASLCustoms its Jeremy. And you are welcome.
I also installed the 13" 4 pot Baer Brake upgrade in the front, as you can keep the 4 lug setup. this kit comes completely assembled, including spindle to dust cover. I have the same wheels in black and they are 17" x 9" . My rear brake kit is the Ford T Bird Turbo Coupe that was offered and bought a long time ago for my 1989 Mustang Sport LX.
Nice!
I'm still on drums.
Living the poor life.
Saleen rims 1.5k
All Maxuim suspension to pan hard 2.5k
Drum brakes in the rear priceless.
😂👊
🔥
Thx pal!
Dunno if I buy that, Gary. Well-adjusted rear drums work just fine on the street. Discs win on the track because they're more fade resistant. I was going to go rear discs on my '85 ASC Coupe, but found through much discussion the better call was '87-93 V8 fronts and properly adjusting my rear drums. Stops great now. Only complaint is the Power Stop ceramic pads are filthy beasts compared to the Wagner ceramics I had-- a HUGE deal on these orange lace wheels. Next time you come to Detroit-- and it's not raining, take it for a ride.
Oh buddy, I can only imagine the PITA to keep those wheels clean…😬
@@KASLCustoms Back when I had them new, I spent a LOT of time scraping off the crud from the semi-mets. We didn't have the good chemicals and brushes that are out today. I still have PTSD from that.
hey good video, I am in the middle of gathering a bunch of 5 lug swap parts and one of the pieces to the puzzle is the rear brakes. one question, do you need to do the brake booster? or is the factory 87-93 ok?
Thank you! As for the booster, I think its more of a personal want vs. need. Ive had both and never noticed much difference. That said, I'm just a weekend cruiser. If you were out road racing, I'm sure the larger booster would come in handy
I have everything to install a 95 gt master, the car already had front cobra brakes and converted to rear disc brakes but they didn't change the master or proportioning valve. I need to get off my ass and install it, I can drive the car the way it is but the brakes aren't as good as they should be hopefully this will help. Also my directions don't say anything about gutting the stock proportioning valve but have done a lot of research and know I need to do it and have everything I need, perfect timing on the video.
Right on - thanks buddy!
Great video that shows what is REALLY involved with one of these swaps. Down....Up......Down.....Up.....Down......Up....
Hahah its true! Thanks buddy
Great install video, nicely explained. Thank you for taking the time to post it.
Youre welcome!
Is it possible to make this rear disc swap also work with an existing line lock as well? Thx!
Absolutely
Great video Gary! Fantastic step by step. Did this as my first mod on my 89 notch! Highly recommended!
Thanks buddy!
Parking brake.
There is actually a magazine that tested this years ago and it was like a 1 ft difference between drum and disc. It's not as much an impact as you would think.
Do you know if the test was run repeatedly or was it just a single stop?
@@KASLCustoms I don't recall but this was HEAVILY debated on the forums back in the day I'll keep looking for it I can't remember which magazine did the swap test.
Was waiting on this video
Personally i never have any issues with drum rear brakes. Then again as a master auto technician, servicing rear drum brakes are easy to me. For most non pros they can be difficult. Personally i perfer them myself, they work. Im not going any faster than low 12's and they work fine. Personally i think that sorry A$$ alternator should be the first upgrade. Actually these cars run better with this mod as well.
For a person getting a manual foxbody I suggest the clutch quadrant as the first mod. I've had to float shift home because of it.
Yeah that’s a good one too. That said, I’ve seen some crazy high mileage cars still rocking the plastic quadrant however I do agree, it’s a ticking time bomb 😂
@@KASLCustoms I've always had the luck of buying one with a heavy aftermarket clutch
Very nice
Thanks!
Thank you so much my friend! I really appreciate that 👍
👍🏻🙌🏻
great video! but whats kind of wiring harness is that on minute 29?
Its a painless harness for the 78 TA
@@KASLCustoms I thought it was maybe for the fox. I did the complete wiring harness swap in my 88 Saleen from American Autowire. It´s tricky but now i have a complete new Harness in the whole car.
great Vid -- but what do I see the bandit still sitting there waiting ( :
Thanks buddy! Lol its coming along...
@@KASLCustoms I will be waiting LOL
Perfect time to go 5 lug
Its true however this client likes the 4 lug
Good stuff Gary!
Thx dude!!