Hugh Despenser the Younger: The Most Hated Briton of the Fourteenth Century

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @johnd.obrien6838
    @johnd.obrien6838 2 года назад +757

    His son, Pez, became far more famous.

  • @tylerhill40
    @tylerhill40 2 года назад +90

    Imagine being so hated they want to utterly annihilate your body after killing you. Geez.

    • @igorkoskin5214
      @igorkoskin5214 2 года назад +8

      It was a fairly standard way of executing traitors in England back in the day though

    • @CJODell12
      @CJODell12 2 года назад +1

      @@greyfriars6540 WEF? You mean World Economic Forum?

    • @mrrictus
      @mrrictus 2 года назад +5

      Lookup what happened to Cromwell's (the high protector Cromwell. Not Henry VIII main dog)corpse.

    • @StuckInOhio10
      @StuckInOhio10 2 года назад

      @@CJODell12 yeah, the WEF is a conniving cabal of weasels

    • @shirleytyler-szkolny6981
      @shirleytyler-szkolny6981 2 года назад

      Yeah, that's just because they hadn't invented the chainsaw yet.

  • @Finthefish-hr8ky
    @Finthefish-hr8ky 2 года назад +146

    Isn't it astounding to think the DeSpencer line can be traced back to 1066. Also that a direct descendant will one day be king. The elite really know how to stay at the top of the heap.

    • @BTScriviner
      @BTScriviner 2 года назад +15

      As Mel Brooks said in "History of the World Part I": "It's good to be the king."

    • @nancytestani1470
      @nancytestani1470 2 года назад +16

      The depenser’s were not the only one family to be traced back to 1066..

    • @Finthefish-hr8ky
      @Finthefish-hr8ky 2 года назад

      @@nancytestani1470 true just look at the names of the elite in the UK.

    • @christianfreedom-seeker934
      @christianfreedom-seeker934 2 года назад

      You mean Prince William? Well there is a law that prevents the old Norman Catholic families from inheriting the throne unless the Spencers were not Catholic but Church of England.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 2 года назад +8

      …from the most despised to the most beloved in 700 years, that’s a good turnaround

  • @IndustrialBonecraft
    @IndustrialBonecraft 2 года назад +47

    "That man despenses Hughs!"
    "What a bastard!"

  • @tmr4342
    @tmr4342 2 года назад +22

    That was very entertaining, thankyou, She-Wolf of France.

  • @NinjaGrrrl7734
    @NinjaGrrrl7734 2 года назад +10

    I love your voice. It soothes and intrigues me both. What a lovely instrument your voice is!

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger 2 года назад +12

    Also known as the nastiest divorce in history.

  • @alexsm3882
    @alexsm3882 2 года назад +25

    Here I was thinking I was gonna learn about a huge dispenser in the middle ages

  • @michaelfisher7170
    @michaelfisher7170 2 года назад +63

    Damn. The concept "overkill" apparently didn't exist or at least didn't factor into politically charged trials and executions, back in the day.

    • @paristhompson7522
      @paristhompson7522 2 года назад +2

      For real, obviously his execution was a terrible way to die but I was almost laughing at how extremely over-the-top it was

    • @jessecaple170
      @jessecaple170 Год назад +3

      I can think of a few ppl today that it wouldn't be over the top for.

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934
    @christianfreedom-seeker934 2 года назад +24

    You know you failed as a King when you get grouped in with Richard III, Oswald Mosley and Jack the Ripper! And, of course Hugh Dispenser the younger.

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 2 года назад +2

      Yeah really the only good thing he ever did was help produce Edward III

    • @THINKincessantly
      @THINKincessantly 2 года назад +3

      Uh, Whats wrong with Oswald Mosley?

    • @ralphmillais5237
      @ralphmillais5237 2 года назад +2

      Mosley was an honourable man.

  • @Vates104
    @Vates104 2 года назад +46

    Just discovered this channel. I subscribed and I rang the bell.
    Christopher Marlowe’s play Edward II made this story into a Great Play, still read and performed today.

  • @klackon1
    @klackon1 2 года назад +16

    Many years ago, I used to walk my dogs past the monument raised to show the site of Gaveston's execution. There is a roundabout on the A46 close by, which is known as Gaveston island/roundabout. I think the monument has words to the effect ".... murdered by barons lawless as himself."

  • @sooobyrooo5763
    @sooobyrooo5763 2 года назад +9

    Really engaging and quite a fantastic video delivery thank you for a very entertaining look at this interesting cultural slice.

  • @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805
    @retroactivejealousy-worldl1805 2 года назад +13

    Were Diana Princess of Wales and her line of Spencers descended from the Despencer family?

  • @Nana-vi4rd
    @Nana-vi4rd 2 года назад +7

    Ah, I'm a high school drop out and even I know Isabella met Mortimer when she went to France on the pretense of Speaking to her brother on her husband's behalf. And this was after DE Spencer had gotten the King to declare all French people were traitors and had to be locked away. De Spencer taking great pleasure in taking the royal children from their mother and dismissing the Queen's ladies due to their being French. Once in France Isabella declared until her husband declared De Spencer a traitor she would consider herself a widow and would not return to England. Oh, I forgot she had her brother as the King of England to come to France to pay homage to himself. Isabella knew he wouldn't do that so suggested that the King send his heir in his place. Which Edward did, and once the boy was with his mother, she declared herself a widow. While in France she met Mortimer and they became lovers. Then together and with a small army returned to England gathering more and more willing to fight against the King.

    • @Serena_Eve
      @Serena_Eve 2 года назад +1

      Seen the Dan Jones docs, eh?

  • @charleslennonbaker
    @charleslennonbaker 2 года назад +26

    Wow, I knew some aspects of King Edward II's life but...wow. It's also interesting how Sir William Wallace and Robert the Bruce also helped contribute to this particular segment of history. After researching the information detailed in the video I also discovered where JRR Maritn got his inspiration for Robert's Rebellion.

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 2 года назад +3

      Yeah my wife used to bang on at me about watching the TV show. I am sure she did not believe I already knew the plot lol

    • @airsir9559
      @airsir9559 Год назад +3

      Apparently GRR Martin based certain characters on some of the players involved in the Wars of Scottish Independence. Mance Rayder was based on William Wallace and Tywin Lannister was based on Edward the Longshanks. What's funny is that the the guy who played Stannis Baratheon in the show later went on to play Edward the Longshanks in the movie Outlaw King.

  • @stephenbowers7901
    @stephenbowers7901 2 года назад +8

    Its Friday again!..... Medieval Madness always deliver :) Much love, splendid

  • @morrisminor56
    @morrisminor56 2 года назад +14

    Well, that's about as Medieval as it gets.

  • @jobrown6952
    @jobrown6952 2 года назад +7

    I have never subscribed to anything so fast in my life, A+ content!!!

  • @NarffetWerlz
    @NarffetWerlz 2 года назад +32

    Hugh, son of Towel and Coffee, would later be immortalized in the video game _Team Fortress 2_ where each character can request his presence.

  • @JamesFromTexas
    @JamesFromTexas 2 года назад +97

    According to the 100% accurate documentary Braveheart, at least one of Isabella's kids was fathered by William Wallace.

    • @TheAshCooper
      @TheAshCooper 2 года назад +16

      Such an accurate film even to this day.

    • @rokkovalkrye3127
      @rokkovalkrye3127 2 года назад

      Crazy to think that Wallace accomplished all he did while afflicted with such bad alcoholism. Shame he was a raging antisemite. :/

    • @crystllclr3743
      @crystllclr3743 2 года назад +7

      Literally the opening title messes it up lol.

    • @vit968
      @vit968 2 года назад +6

      Still a fun movie more fun than outlaw king

    • @JamesFromTexas
      @JamesFromTexas 2 года назад +8

      @@vit968 definitely a great movie. Won Movie of the Year when it came out.
      ETA: Outlaw King was such a dry movie. Also, couldn't they have at least gotten a Scottish actor to play The Bruce?

  • @landrum3893
    @landrum3893 Год назад +6

    You had me at drag queen. Excellent history content that isnt dry or humorless. Thanks

  • @SYLFan2008
    @SYLFan2008 2 года назад +11

    Sounds like a Bart Simpson prank call to Moe.

    • @0verkill161
      @0verkill161 2 года назад

      He must have be an ancestor of Hugh Jazz.

  • @gizmo3846
    @gizmo3846 2 года назад +8

    It wasn't just a meal why they watched, it's said that isabelle ate a plum as dispensers testicles were removed.

  • @jonathanstoutenburg8634
    @jonathanstoutenburg8634 2 года назад +7

    You have taught me so much about a period that didn't seem to have history classes when I went to Ohio State University.

    • @iriswinter
      @iriswinter Год назад

      You mean THE Ohio State University 🤪

    • @racheljoseph1221
      @racheljoseph1221 Год назад +1

      Well what do you EXPECT from OSU?? Greetings from Michigan...

  • @tricivenola8164
    @tricivenola8164 Год назад +1

    I've encountered and enjoyed your videos from time to time, but I am now totally addicted and am watching every single one. Thanks for taking us to the Middle Ages!

  • @CoryWHoffman
    @CoryWHoffman 2 года назад +18

    I love you’re little bits of comedy thrown into your videos

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 2 года назад +3

      You love his little bits, do you? Good to know! Thank you for sharing!

    • @nygothuey6607
      @nygothuey6607 Год назад

      He has a great dry British humour. Much like History Matters.

  • @curiodyssey3867
    @curiodyssey3867 2 года назад +14

    Absolutely LOVE your content.

  • @infinitejest441
    @infinitejest441 2 года назад +8

    I was unaware a person could die more than once. 😵

    • @glenchapman3899
      @glenchapman3899 2 года назад

      Well it was a complicated process. They hanged you till you were almost dead. Then they would cut your private parts of and stuff them in your mouth. Then start the disembowling process. Over the years they had gotten pretty good at keeping you alive while they did all these steps

    • @gonzoraoul
      @gonzoraoul 2 года назад +3

      Being quartered was thought of as worse than execution because in the Christian resurrection myth, it's believed that for believers your body will be raised again to heaven. And so having your body spread over the country prevents that.

  • @patrickparsons2378
    @patrickparsons2378 2 года назад +31

    Despenser was English not a 'Briton'. The latter term was not used at all until the early C17th in the reign of James VI & I (although it did reappear in the propaganda of Henry VII Tudor). The Welsh used the term for themselves until it was gradually displaced by the adoption of the English term 'Welsh' during the C12th.

    • @kristiskinner8542
      @kristiskinner8542 2 года назад

      Doesnt make any difference- a Brit made the list today going by what it is today

    • @stevovimy
      @stevovimy 2 года назад +7

      Britons predate the English lol.

    • @sionjones1026
      @sionjones1026 2 года назад +8

      @@kristiskinner8542 yes it does make a difference. I expected to see a video about a Briton. Not an Anglo Norman.

    • @sanderson9338
      @sanderson9338 2 года назад

      Are you calling Julius Cesaer a liar he called people Britons

    • @sionjones1026
      @sionjones1026 2 года назад +3

      When Julius Caesar arrived in Britannia he called the natives Britons. Hugh Despenser is an Anglo Norman. His people, the Normans, didn’t arrive in Britain until 1066 and this is hundreds of
      years after Caesar first called the Celtic speaking natives by the name Of Britons.

  • @laurieb3703
    @laurieb3703 Год назад +4

    Human cruelty never ceases to amaze me

  • @joannefalkinder393
    @joannefalkinder393 2 года назад +6

    Cannot imagine that lady Diana Spencer was a descendant of this family.

  • @toddbonin6926
    @toddbonin6926 2 года назад +5

    This was really well done!

  • @abrahamlincoln9758
    @abrahamlincoln9758 2 года назад +22

    The more I learn about tue Middle Ages the more I think video games cause violence.

    • @ITSjustWOOL
      @ITSjustWOOL 2 года назад +4

      Medieval GTA was wild

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 2 года назад +2

      Played video games all of my life, not once did I ever think about causing violence.

    • @maliciousfacegaming8581
      @maliciousfacegaming8581 2 года назад +2

      @@maxxdahl6062 try League of Legends, that should do it

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 2 года назад +5

      @@maliciousfacegaming8581 Nah I play real games. lol

    • @millermonsterair
      @millermonsterair 2 года назад

      @@maxxdahl6062 animal crossing caused me to do a blood eagle on someone...

  • @Tim_Apple
    @Tim_Apple 2 года назад +35

    The most beloved man of the 14th century was Hugh Jainus

    • @岡山大木
      @岡山大木 2 года назад +2

      Sir Michael Oxlong has to be in with a shout too

    • @Tim_Apple
      @Tim_Apple 2 года назад +2

      @@岡山大木 Don't forget Lee Kinaynis

    • @Finthefish-hr8ky
      @Finthefish-hr8ky 2 года назад +1

      I thought it was Sir Phil Mckrack

    • @Tim_Apple
      @Tim_Apple 2 года назад +3

      @@Finthefish-hr8ky If's possible but now that i think about it it might have been Hugh Jasole.

    • @Finthefish-hr8ky
      @Finthefish-hr8ky 2 года назад +2

      @@keelo-byte didn't he study under Master Bates?

  • @warwick936
    @warwick936 2 года назад +13

    Edward III captured Isabella and Mortimer at Nottingham Castle where he used the secret tunnels and caves to gain access to the private chambers. You can visit the caves at Nottingham Castle today!

    • @grumpy-dad3701
      @grumpy-dad3701 2 года назад +2

      Hasn't been a castle for a couple of years.
      It was destroyed by some king yester year

    • @kimberleysmith818
      @kimberleysmith818 2 года назад

      @@grumpy-dad3701 Google says otherwise.

    • @jlworrad
      @jlworrad 2 года назад +2

      The tunnels are a fantastic place to visit. They got used during the civil war too.

  • @24934637
    @24934637 2 года назад +7

    Bad state of affairs when you are looking forward to the beheading!

  • @BTScriviner
    @BTScriviner 2 года назад +5

    It was more a coup against Edward II, than a voluntary abdication.

  • @SaiyanGamer95
    @SaiyanGamer95 2 года назад +6

    Benedict Arnold (who was hated in America (and still hated to this day) and Britain): Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!!

    • @johnbeardshall2898
      @johnbeardshall2898 2 года назад +3

      Washington was of a noble family his family is related too churchill Mountbatten and Spencers 3 of the most powerful families in England Washington was a general in the royal army which only sons of noble blood could be officers he helped British troops defeat the French then joined the American Revolution with backing from the French so who really was a traitor ,makes you think doesn't it

  • @postiepaul
    @postiepaul Год назад +1

    “Joining the 27 club”. Very funny😀😀😀

  • @rarebird_82
    @rarebird_82 2 года назад +3

    Love the Pythonesque light relief 😉😅

  • @abraxasjinx5207
    @abraxasjinx5207 Год назад

    I've been listening to your videos to help me fall asleep while learning something. Listening to them while awake I'm appreciative of the connections to modern concepts and situations. We need to learn from the past and we are often failing.

  • @gibbnasta
    @gibbnasta 2 года назад +22

    So Brokeback Kingdom?

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang 2 года назад +5

    How many law students have seen that sentence and aspired to become a judge?

  • @alanmorris1828
    @alanmorris1828 2 года назад +2

    Wow. Just wow. And here I thought the present was an amazing time to be alive.
    ---Marya Hunyadi 🐎🐎🐎 🇺🇸 🇭🇺 🇲🇳👑

  • @anthonyehrenzweig1635
    @anthonyehrenzweig1635 Год назад +2

    Edward II almost certainly was NOT killed in 1327. Please refer to the book by Ian Mortimer - The Perfect King - the life of Edward III..

  • @toprope_
    @toprope_ 2 года назад +1

    Reminds me of the Codds from Game of Thrones. Their words were “Though All Men May Despise Us”

  • @Handlebar-MustDash
    @Handlebar-MustDash 2 года назад +16

    Gaviscon was bad enough to give you indigestion.

  • @trevormillar1576
    @trevormillar1576 2 года назад +2

    "Fancy a game of poker. Edward?:

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 2 года назад +6

    What an utter fool and idiot Edward II was. He was given everything anyone could ever dream of, but just wanted to play with his sycophantic boyfriends! He was a complete disaster as a king, almost any man or woman in the kingdom would have been better.

  • @stevenwilgus5422
    @stevenwilgus5422 2 года назад +2

    I am descended from Hugh DeSpencer the Younger through three of his children. Elizabeth le Despenser, Baroness Berkeley, Sir Edward Le Despencer, and Isabel le Despenser, Countess of Arundel. Incidentally, I am also descended from Edward III Plantagenet, Duke of York, King of England through his sons: Lionel Plantagenet, of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence, John of Gaunt Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Lancaster, Thomas of Woodstock, Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Gloucester, and Edmund of Langley, Plantagenet, 1st Duke of York. (I have a colorful genealogy.)

    • @radiantseedpod7708
      @radiantseedpod7708 2 года назад +2

      Hi there, distant cousin, I too am a descendent oh Hugh DeSpencer the Younger. Cheers!

    • @stevenwilgus5422
      @stevenwilgus5422 2 года назад +2

      @@radiantseedpod7708 We are lucky to have survived his fate-- and that of his father. Cheers!

    • @nicolelabram5575
      @nicolelabram5575 2 года назад

      Is that a place name ? Or does it translate " the thinker" De penser?

    • @stevenwilgus5422
      @stevenwilgus5422 2 года назад

      @@nicolelabram5575 : from Old French despense, from Latin dispendere to distribute; see dispense

  • @vitabricksnailslime8273
    @vitabricksnailslime8273 Год назад +2

    Justice was despensed.

  • @bloodyvampy69
    @bloodyvampy69 2 года назад +13

    “Joined the 27 club”
    I was smoking and nearly choked on the exhale laughing at that, then said “he joined the club before it was cool” 😂!
    I absolutely love your content. Keep up the great work❤

  • @tombristowe846
    @tombristowe846 2 года назад +11

    Berkeley Castle. It's pronounced Barclay, like the bank.

    • @tombristowe846
      @tombristowe846 2 года назад +1

      @@keelo-byte Been away; would've replied earlier. In English pronunciation, as opposed to American English. It's the same with Berkshire, one of our counties; it's pronounce "Barkshire". As the maker of this video is English I pointed it out. Had he been American I wouldn't have as I know they pronounce it differently, as in the university in California for instance, which has the same name.

    • @Ubu987
      @Ubu987 2 года назад

      @@keelo-byte In ze Norman French.

  • @penelopegreene
    @penelopegreene 2 года назад +3

    But let's Despense with the formalities...

  • @MrWildbill
    @MrWildbill 2 года назад +14

    Hugh's brother Soap is very successful these days...

    • @Handlebar-MustDash
      @Handlebar-MustDash 2 года назад +3

      😂 His other siblings, Condom, Tampon and Bubblegum are doing well too.

    • @sgtboz9730
      @sgtboz9730 2 года назад

      Booooo

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 2 года назад

      Drink managed the invade the most territory.

    • @MrWildbill
      @MrWildbill 2 года назад

      @@Handlebar-MustDash -- lol

    • @cw4608
      @cw4608 2 года назад +1

      Priceless, don’t forget little Pez.

  • @cheknauss9867
    @cheknauss9867 20 дней назад

    What a horrible death. As soon as I knew the other lords wanted smoke I would've just been like hey look y'all, I'm fitting to bounce and live nicely.

  • @meredithwatterson6471
    @meredithwatterson6471 2 года назад +3

    He's my 22nd Great-Grandfather.
    That's where my kids get it from!

    • @meredithwatterson6471
      @meredithwatterson6471 2 года назад +1

      I'm kidding of course.

    • @meredithwatterson6471
      @meredithwatterson6471 2 года назад +2

      Oh yeah, the Berkeley castle guy is an ancestor as well.
      He's even worse.
      But really, my kids are angels!

    • @sirlawrence9161
      @sirlawrence9161 2 года назад +1

      Same, well don't know about 22 but around there.

  • @l.b.2592
    @l.b.2592 2 года назад +4

    To be reworked into House of the Dragon, season 2 and 3.

  • @jackmoorehead2036
    @jackmoorehead2036 5 месяцев назад

    Back then, they didnt waste any time after the conviction. No need for an Appeals Court.

  • @RaijuFiction
    @RaijuFiction 2 года назад +3

    Well that one detail uhh...made everything clench 👀

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 2 года назад

      Even the way they named it! The British just ooze class!

    • @jlyngdoh5608
      @jlyngdoh5608 2 года назад

      What detail and what name..??

  • @80sMetalHead
    @80sMetalHead 2 года назад +1

    #Fantastic

  • @yarrowwitch
    @yarrowwitch 2 года назад +7

    Given who took his place, they'd have been better leaving Gaveston be!

  • @croftmire
    @croftmire Год назад +2

    Minor nitpick: Isabella, having been born in 1296, would’ve been at least 24 years old in 1321, not 23.

  • @michaelpipkin9942
    @michaelpipkin9942 2 года назад +5

    "The past was the worst."

    • @sanderson9338
      @sanderson9338 2 года назад

      So far

    • @nicolelabram5575
      @nicolelabram5575 2 года назад

      That's really sick even for the 14th century. Theses people called themselves Christians?

    • @HdHd-cg4nz
      @HdHd-cg4nz Год назад

      Iraq war was pretty bad 1 million dead. Ww2 18 million dead. Hiroshima 200,000 dead instantly. We’re pretty bad still.

    • @sanderson9338
      @sanderson9338 Год назад

      @@HdHd-cg4nz it's relative what was the percentage of population wiped out? Genghis Khan in actual fact had a bigger impact than Hitler and Stalin in regards the size of world population. The newer the tech and more dense the human population it will escalate in casualties. 57,470 deaths in 1 day will be hard to beat at the Somme. 830,000 died in 1 day at the Shaaaxi earthquake. Both those numbers would be wiped out by a nuke on NY London Tokyo etc. Its relative.

    • @sanderson9338
      @sanderson9338 Год назад

      @@HdHd-cg4nz only 80,000 died in the initial impact at Hiroshima not 200,000 but still incredibly unacceptable numbers.

  • @boogiesmell5181
    @boogiesmell5181 2 месяца назад

    Edward II was almost certainly not murdered. He lived on and went into exile.
    The chroniclers who recorded these events were no more informed about what really happened than the average man on the street.
    Many people who would have been very well informed about the true state of affairs were certain that he was alive well after he was rumoured to have died. There is some evidence that he was later att Corfe Castle, and from there moved on to Ireland and thence to the continent, finally ending up in a peaceful Italian convent. As crazy as this does sound it is the most likely scenario considering all the actual facts we are aware of. I won't get into it too deeply, but the Fieschi letter is of great significance, as is the fact the a man claiming to be the father of Edward III met with him in Koblenz, Germany years after. In those days, royal impersonators would regularly get executed, but this time... the man was allowed to live and was not persecuted in any way. He didn't even ask for anything, which is telling.
    Why, then, would Edward II not have tried to regain the throne, had he remained alive?
    Because of his personality. Kingship was forced upon him, and he had no interest in government. He enjoyed the company of lowborn people. He must have been painfully aware that his reign had been a disaster. He was pious and had always found the company of priests, prelates and monks very pleasant. In his teens, he faced criticism for staying much longer in their company than he would have needed to. He was always criticized for ignoring matters of state, always preferring to do hard work with his own hands.
    Now he was finally at peace, enjoying a blissful existence in a scenic Italian convent in a mountainous setting. He was among like minded people, an equal to them, allowed to fill his days with physical labour and piety, activities which had always given him joy. Why would he have wanted to return to the hellish existence he endured as a king?
    This is what I imagine he told his son in Germany, and was thus allowed by all to continue his peaceful existence. He was officially declared dead, but allowed to stay alive far away from England and its politics. It was a win-win situation for everyone.

  • @shuukenji6585
    @shuukenji6585 2 года назад +7

    He is Hugh Despenser, a Large Despenser of Hugh

  • @JohnPlissken
    @JohnPlissken 2 года назад +10

    "We know he had a wife and kids, and had an affair wife his niece. And we he nothing to suggest he was gay. But it's 2022 so let's just say he might have been gay."

    • @mikegrossberg8624
      @mikegrossberg8624 2 года назад +7

      There was plenty of rumors at the time to suggest that Despencer and Edward were lovers

    • @andromeda-p9966
      @andromeda-p9966 2 года назад +6

      He could've been bi.

    • @mikegrossberg8624
      @mikegrossberg8624 2 года назад +3

      @Romeo Alfa What has THAT got to do with whether the King had a gay lover?

    • @mikegrossberg8624
      @mikegrossberg8624 2 года назад

      @Romeo Alfa When it comes to those supposed to be running the country, the rumor is enough

    • @lily5952
      @lily5952 2 года назад +4

      Gay people exist, and have always existed. Deal with it. Considering how Edward favored certain male courtiers and showered them with gifts, even at the expense of his reputation and kingdom's treasuries, it does seem like he could have had a romantic attachment to these male favorites. Gay people have to live in the closet for survival even today in this supposedly modern world. One can only imagine how deep in the closet LGBT people had to be back then when you could be burned at the stake or beheaded for "sexual immorality".

  • @novallasuter5265
    @novallasuter5265 2 года назад +3

    But, no proof she took him as a lover.

  • @traqueliacooper5132
    @traqueliacooper5132 Год назад

    Darn, I noticed you mentioned THE NICKNAME OR YOUR STAGE NAME IS SHE WOLF, DARN, BECAUSE YOUR ASCENT ABSOLUTELY FASCINATE ME. I CAN LISTEN TO YOU ALL NIGHT. YOU SHOULD BE NARRATIR OF BIG TIME MOVIES, AND MORE BECAUSE YOU WERE CERTAINLY BLESSED WITH WHAT I refer to as *"**.THE VOICE****. I always enjoy as well as learn something I didn't know before seeing your show, I'm just upset I just recently like 2 months ago came across your channel. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to share your knowledge with others such as myself. You and yours remain blessed, safe and happy

  • @stephenwhite3967
    @stephenwhite3967 2 года назад +2

    One of the most hated person in exeter during the 20s Ivan Packer

  • @oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164
    @oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164 2 года назад +1

    And disemboweled? That's a bit harsh don't you think?

  • @hoibsh21
    @hoibsh21 2 года назад +1

    No wonder they call trash cans dispensers.

  • @Miss_Judged
    @Miss_Judged Год назад

    You're great

  • @grottybt5006
    @grottybt5006 Год назад

    The BBC lol, sir Oswald Mosley was a better man than anyone who works for the BBC. Notice they didn't think their Jimmy savile was maybe more hated, lots of people don't even know of Mosley

  • @RubyBlueUwU
    @RubyBlueUwU 2 года назад +27

    As an aside, successful sexual relationships with women don’t negate sexual relationships with men, it’s entirely possible for a historical figure to have been bisexual (or gay but not disgusted by sex with women, and simply adhering to the standards of the day out of necessity, self-preservation or just a lack of self-understanding as a result of persecution) sadly most historical figures are completely unidentifiable as LGBT, but it’s important when discussing the speculation to remember how nuanced LGBT identities are, and that it’s not as simple as being either obviously straight or obviously gay!

    • @jackogrady3118
      @jackogrady3118 2 года назад +18

      Nobody actually cares

    • @DarkMatterX1
      @DarkMatterX1 2 года назад

      That's great and all, but no one gives a shit.

    • @lily5952
      @lily5952 2 года назад +5

      @@jackogrady3118 doesn't sound like *you* care, but many actually do care in the sense that historical figures were just normal human beings and sex is a key part of human life. It's not inconceivable that a king or nobleman was in fact what we would call nowadays "LGBT". If you cared about history, you'd explore all aspects of it and sexual identity of historical figures is one such aspect. Ones sexual identity, or lack thereof, can explain a lot of things about one's personality or motives (Freudian thinking, I suppose).

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- 2 года назад +1

    👏👍

  • @LeatherCladVegan
    @LeatherCladVegan Год назад +1

    Whatever did happen to his brother, Pez?

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934
    @christianfreedom-seeker934 2 года назад +4

    Hopefully the new King Charles doesn't end up in the "most dispised persons of Great Britian" club. 😁😆

  • @OBGynKenobi
    @OBGynKenobi 2 года назад +4

    Good thing his brother Soap got away.

  • @jeremycole1341
    @jeremycole1341 Год назад

    Best channel on RUclips

  • @prieten49
    @prieten49 2 года назад

    I can think of a few Republican senators in the USA who deserve the same punishment(s).

  • @_Yep_Yep_
    @_Yep_Yep_ 2 года назад

    Hug Dispenser meanwhile mvp of 2022

  • @mattflamenco
    @mattflamenco Год назад

    Gaveston woods in Warwick is famous. His head was chopped off on the rock. It's still there twxt Warwick and Leek Wooton

  • @yucatansuckaman5726
    @yucatansuckaman5726 2 года назад +2

    Now it's Hugh mongus

  • @christaylor4477
    @christaylor4477 2 года назад +2

    Ok so they really took punishment to far back in the day

  • @Martin_Daniel
    @Martin_Daniel 2 года назад +2

    I had a hugh despenser of liquid soap years ago... It eventually broke. Now I have another, newer model. Guess how will I call it?

  • @bhpictures
    @bhpictures Год назад

    12:00 Does anyone know what this location is? Thanks in advance.

  • @sirandrelefaedelinoge
    @sirandrelefaedelinoge 2 года назад

    _"Intimate friend..."_

  • @larrybaker9924
    @larrybaker9924 Год назад

    Pez ,is that the prince who Dispensed candy from his neck.

  • @Jon-kf7zr
    @Jon-kf7zr 2 года назад +2

    Knew his brother Pez

  • @RoomerJ
    @RoomerJ Год назад

    Holy crap I didn't know they did executions like that

  • @grumpy-dad3701
    @grumpy-dad3701 Год назад

    Match of the day was a little different in the 14th century

  • @VoltasP
    @VoltasP 2 года назад +4

    Damn, that would be a great drag name, tho

  • @heyalright_
    @heyalright_ 2 года назад +1

    I'm just gonna type Toast of London

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly 2 года назад

    🔴⚪️🔵”Oswald Mosley on Multiculturalism” type it in--Its still on jtube here in the US...one of the best Dam fine 5 minutes youll spend on jtube

  • @shirleymental4189
    @shirleymental4189 Год назад

    I've always wanted to be on telly.

  • @theanonymousplayer
    @theanonymousplayer Год назад

    I just found out he is one of my ancestors!!!

  • @drbalbon7332
    @drbalbon7332 2 года назад +3

    "What an incredible guy, probably one of the greatest." - Donald Trump

  • @mathewfoster7027
    @mathewfoster7027 2 года назад +1

    Huge dispenser, yeah okay I believe that