Vodcast: Toyota GR Yaris vs Volkswagen Golf R
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Is the Toyota GR Yaris a hot hatchback? Or is it a rally replica, mega hatch, or something else besides? And is this updated Golf...is it a Gen 2, phase 2, evo, .2 ... or other? And how does it compare to the latest Volkswagen Golf R?
Join Matt Prior and James Disdale in the latest episode of the Autocar vodcast Middle-Aged Tread as they talk about these questions and much more besides, including the Ford Focus RS, the best Golfs, the VR6 engine, Ford Escort Cosworth and more.
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For cars that are lively and built for excitement, this is a painfully dull video. Why not try to make it a bit more interesting? I'm out.
That's what I thought - I watched....no listneed to them blabber on for 5 mins and though, I go to the end to find out their conclusion (saving me 15 mins of my life) and didn't get one! :-(
It’s a vodcast- what are you expecting?
Especially the passenger guy. Dude has such unlikable mannerisms
It's shocking. Just willing them to say or do something interesting the whole way through
This is the premise of autocar, if you want fluffy influencer reviews you’ll have to go elsewhere!
WoW, how to bore your viewers shitless‼️
The GR (both Gen 1 & 2) are in completely different leagues to the Golf. In fact, I'd say they are both so far apart that the GR is in an entirely different universe. Both great cars but the GR is better in every sense other than practicality.
Practicality,quality...Golf is far better car
You literally just repeated my point about practicality, so thanks for that. But ‘quality’? That’s where your argument collapses.
Toyota’s reliability and build quality are legendary-VW, on the other hand, is infamous for electrical gremlins, DSG issues, and cheap interior touchpoints masked by soft plastics. The GR Yaris isn’t just better built; it’s engineered with a purpose. Bespoke chassis, forged carbon roof, rally-bred AWD, and a precision-tuned suspension
The GR Yaris is the closest thing to a supercar in an affordable package. The GR is lighter, sharper, and infinitely more fun. It was built to attack country roads, dance through corners, and dominate in the wet with its rally-derived AWD-Wider track (almost as wide as a GT3 lol) superior suspension, and razor-sharp steering make the GR a weapon, while the Golf feels numb and heavy. On track? The GR is a missile; the Golf is a snail.
And let’s be real-the GR looks aggressive, purpose-built, and unique. The Golf? Just another rounded VW blob blending into traffic. The GR isn’t just better-it’s in an entirely different league. The Golf R? It’s a fast, mass-produced MQB-platform hatchback with a Haldex AWD system that’s front-wheel-drive most of the time. It’s a refined daily driver, but dynamically, it’s not even in the same conversation. One is a scalpel, the other a butter knife. Enjoy your Golf R’s cupholders
I guess you own a GR then
@@RJ4962 Yes, aside from my old Lotus Elise, it’s the most fun I’ve had in a car. And I’ve recently jumped from an 480bhp M140i & an M2C…
PERFECTLY put, @@andy9665.
And, yes, i own a GR Yaris.
I wanted a driving car rather than an appliance.
I am lucky enough to run both cars. GR is more fun, has vastly superior handling, faster down the twisties and always leaves you smiling every drive. Golf is more accelerative, faster on sweeping roads, motorways, and is by far most comfy and grown up cruiser. You can still chuck it around, but with nothing like the ease and fun of the GR.
Both great cars of there time. There won’t be any more like it.
Ps. first. 🎉🎉🎉
That's 20 minutes of my life I won't get back 🙄
Glad you two are having fun.. but nobody else is
The video quality for a large british outlet is absolutely next level. The sound is atrocious and the black five seconds where "camera lost signal and editor just couldn't give a f_ck" was totally a brilliant place to... place a nice drive-by sequence in.. But luckily, the editor just couldn't be bothered to give a f_ck. Either way - both cars are probably pretty brilliant - the tiny Yaris has the same amount of driven wheels and roughly horsepower (less torque though) as my 530 diesel xdrive - but half (HALF) the number of cylinders. The Golf, on the other hand, has more of everything - including space - but less appeal, mostly thanks to VW (WHY??) going away from the brilliant ergonomically perfect interior controls of the Gen 7 Golf - to the idiocy (did I already ask -- WHY????) of the touch controls that seems to be one of the top-three misinformed and mis-judged decisions - in the automotive sector - ever - and that coming from the People's Car brand with the Sitze... seat.. Main office in Wolfsburg... with tons of autobahns on its doorstep. WHY?
How very analytical.
Such a boring 19 mins ..
That I have a lot of money, I would buy 2 of the same GR Yaris, one for everyday driving and one for saving. That car in next 15-20 years will worth a small fortune. Future classic for sure.
The Toyota will hold its value far better than the VW
In period the Escort Cosworth was good, but back to back with a Sunny GTiR, I bought the Nissan. I've now got GRY and it's the closest to the GTiR I have had since.
Very underrated car was the Sunny, there weren't many around on the streets of UK too.
@ mine was red and one of 27 red uk cars. I even managed to bag the plate K44 GTR.
@ Whoah nice one mate.
You bagged an exclusive back in the days
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Loved the GTI-R
Yoo wtf is this? Car reviews are supposedly to be fun, interesting, informative, these guys belong reviewing toothpaste or something, this is like watching paint dry!
GR all day. Nobody wants to deal with crappy crank seals, rear main seals, HVAC issues, and the general diminishing standards of build quality at VW.
Everyone bangs on about how expensive it is as a Gen2 but if you put the 33,500 price it was on launch into an inflation calculator it comes out I a few pence over 41,761, so the new model is in fact about 500 quid more expensive like for like and nothing like as cheeky as Porsche and other German manufacturers have raised their prices!!
The list price however is £44,250…….plus paint if you want a decent colour, i wouldnt pay that gir a yaris, and yes i have the £33,500 model plus red paint!
@ you’re correct, I had a deposit down for the gen 2 (didn’t get one unfortunately) and it was 42,250 at that time I did that hence my comment. I still don’t think Toyota have priced to high just think people’s price perception hasn’t caught up with the inflation of the last few years which has not been helped by wage stagnation of over a decade for the majority of people.
I know I am lucky to be able to afford them although I was only allowed to put down the deposit on the gen2 if I gave my missis my current one as she absolutely loves driving it
Vodcast! .... No!
2 blokes reminiscing over days of yore, wtf are you doing guys, change the format to cars taking centre stage.
Ive just bought a Corolla GR Sport for the dogs, and I've been that impressed that everything just works, that I'll probably look at a GRY too.
Ive had BMW M3 V8, M4, and M4 CS and Audi RS4, and im really taken with the Toyota.
Do it! The GR Yaris is UNREAL!
I had a BMW135ix with 4wd and active suspension - felt quick on open roads, but steering meh. Just not very engaging. Now have Gen 2 GR. Auto, mainly used for weekend mountain runs. Its so rapid on these narrow roads with loads of corners, brakes can stand on really late and hold up well. The steering feels much sharper with better feedback than most recent cars Ive owned or driven. The gearbox is rapid, usually drive it with the paddles. Even as an auto it’s not the best daily, as poor economy by standards and noisy - but used as its meant to be driven, theres little else to compare it to. Feels more motorsport than the usual hot hatch.
Car Share used to be mildy amusing, I mean its good to see that Peter Kay has lost a few pounds but Sian Gibson has really let herself go...
Sorry guys, if I wanted the kind of commentary you'd expect driving to the local shops, I'd have a chat with my six year old. Yawn.
Please go back to normal car tests. This format is awful
Far to much chatting ,,,
Don’t think it would of mattered if they tested the bog standard models
Must of got up to a crazy 45mph at one point
YAWN Another BORING video
4:05 fake news. Here in Japan the cheapest one is the RC, a very spartan version for racing, with halogen headlights, no infotainment system, etc. for 3.49 million yen. A bargain if compared to the RZ version that starts at 4.48 million yen and the RZ High Performance, listed at 5.33 million yen.
All the versions have the same 1.6 3 cylinder engine with 304ps and the same manual or automatic transmition.
I typed in...the cure to insomnia...and it brought me here.
Boring…
Terrible video, bored silly and where was the review of both the cars ?
Toyota GR Yaris the rally car for the road 🤟🤟🤩👌
Gr Yaris is much better all round car
No. Golf is better all round car. GRY is better drivers car.
Great video for people who find it hard to get to sleep at nite..
Nice chat but not much conclusion. Think I know anyway, but it would have been nice to have had my thoughts confirmed.
This isn't even a choice I would need time to think about.
Did they swap glasses half way in?
Awful clarity on the sound, I couldn't hear half of what was said, and the subtitles were worse than useless.
It amazes me that people comment negatively about these Vodcasts. Why? Surely they know the format by now. You either love the slightly rambling 'off on another tangent' delivery or you don't. Personally, I do. Thanks for another fine episiode! 👍
I will mention that you chose the Hyundai i20N over the Golf R in the Autocar "Best Driver's Car 2021" comparison, yet the Golf R seems to get nothing but plaudits here. Has it improved significantly or just has less competition? I must get a drive at a GR Yaris...
We want to see footage of the cars moving in action with nice angles of the car, I didn't click on this video to stare at 2 old balding men who don't seem excited at all, this is a review for people with no standards, this isn't visually appealing nor is it exciting, you my friend need to watch channels like Straight Pipes or Throttle house whom execute these videos properly, these men belong in a fucking nursing home with their level of enthusiasm!
Best hot hatch is the JCW Mini Cooper.
that Golf looks like a bus vs. GR Yaris. had B8 400hp Passat previously, now driving GR (and Audi A2).
2 car geeks talking about geeky cars for a geeky audience. You should have fully geeked out. Instead of just driving about why not point out all the geeky feature that the two cars have compared to their everyday versions, the Yaris is full of them and the Golf R powertrain is a interesting 4WD too. But this was just two guys not really doing much.
Neither. it's the Civic Type-R.
by a landslide 👌
What a load of drivel, stick to reviews instead of mild comedic waffle
Lads! You need to read the comments!
It should be comparison with GR Corolla and Golf R 🤔
Isn't it irrelevant, you can't buy a GR
That’s not true, there are slots being offered, although in very low numbers
@ it's not on general sale
@@paymetofly there are small numbers being offered to those on the list… I know of 2 this week.
Sadly so many of these hot hatch cars are going to be hard to source or even unavailable, within a year or two.
useless video.
Awful video. Truly awful.
why??
Golf all day long🙂
Sold my GRY CP, which i owned from new, and can honestly say it was fun but was surprised at some of the cars on the road that could leave it for dead or sit up my backside on B roads. This probably also explains why so many are for sale considering the small volume made. They are fun but I believe very hyped. And don't get me started on the short service intervals or sugar glass windscreen. And theyre awful for carrying rear passengers plus the passenger seat has no height adjuster on the mk1 versions. If you run onre of these cars daily forget it being an investment. The parts and servicing will eat away at any return you may, or may not, get when selling the car in the future.
Glad i got that out of my system. I did enjoy driving it as im sure many do and will. But after 3 years of ownership i don't miss it one bit.
That’s maybe more about your driving style by the sounds. GR thrives on being taken by scruff of neck pushing your liberties. I have and R, a GR and a 991.2cs. I live in Devon and can unequivocally say that, on a give and take road, like those on Dartmoor exmoor , the Gr will easily spank the others without me being a rally pro driver. Encouraging, communicative, forgiving, small n wieldy. I never go 10/10ths, and woukd dare in the Porsche, but the Yaris is so good I can go further to edge of cars lintits whilst maintaining my own. Had many decent cars, and am fortunate. But the GR takes some besting on Uk roads most days.
There’s no car that will hang with a GR on a country road in the UK, that was probably more down to your driving.
@@andy9665 you're living in a dream world. Out of the box, new and for £33500 on the road they had no competition for the price. But that is different from saying nothing will stay with it on a B road. I'm also an experienced driver, and that's putting it politely, having driven the car and others to their limit and beyond off road.
There are many modified road sleepers and track day set up cars on the road that will stay with a GRY on twisty roads and then leave it for dead once the bends smooth out, especially if the conditions are dry. I love the GRY. It's a petrol heads car. But i'm also very honest and well aware of what else is out there. The GRY is the perfect balance of stability and useable power. But that's it.
What cars left you for dead?
@@bertiebasset1752 Come off it mate. Stock for stock, £ for £ there is nothing that comes close to it. Even a GT3 would get a good run for its money on a country road by the GR, and then in the wet that’s another story entirely.
You’re talking about track built cars and “road sleepers” how often did you come across these types of cars on country roads?? And if you want to go down that route, my GR is 350bhp with basic bolt ons and weighs 1240kg. There’s very few cars, modified or not, that keep up with mine. I cover more ground in my GR than my previous M140i which was 480bhp and my M2C. You’re just a bad driver.
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