Masters Of Masters reveals His Identity To Xehanort Kingdom hearts 3 Remind DLC
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I love the way MoM’s voice changes. He comes off as carefree but the truth is he is a suave manipulator.
In order to fool the real fools you have to play the fool.
Tobi
the real question is what is his endgame? All he seems to do is pushing people into action that creates conflict like some kind of battle royal.
@@nori4051 MoM is Obito or Madara?
@@nori4051 more like Kaguya because Luxu kind like Zetsu
"My name is --redacted--"
2 games later
"My name is *reveals name*"
2 games later
"That wasn't my REAL name"
Me: "omg...*rubs head in frustration*"
Luke Johnson what was his fake name
The game's story suck ass so much, tried to be the smart story twister by putting secret identity or clue here n there but when its revealed, its doesnt shock me so much
My name is Master Keyblade
@@Secretxxx67 where is the reveal it was never revealed moron
It’s sora from the future or Dora’s dad
"My Name is- *gets muted*"
GOD DAMMIT NOMURA
i feel your pain my friend Q_Q
@@MitsukiKuchiki seriously, its been more than a decade, im getting tired lol, we just need answers without more questions.
@@MitsukiKuchiki lol, seriously. its been more than a decade already, we just want an answer without creating more questions.
@@HaxHaunter "Its not a Kingdom Hearts game unless it adds more questions to the player"
I swear. Nomura just Self Inserted himself in Remind. Think about it. Orchestrated everything, knows what will happen, and confuses the hell out of everyone.
So what I get from this:
- MoM likes watching things play out.
- MoM doesn't like false information.
- MoM doesn't like it when someone is chained down by law or fate.
- MoM believes that action is better than words.
- MoM is totally nonchalant in telling his identity.
- MoM is too scared to take off his coat.
- *MoM is confusing.*
- The Master fought in the Keyblade War right from the beginning, and he mentioned being tired of it. He's both an observer & doer.
- The Master expressed concern, when he heard Xehanort talking about how weak are succumbing to darkness(possible that the Master's companions fell to darkness, because they were tired of fighting an endless War and wanted a shortcut to gain more power) 2:44-3:38
- The Master's sin is most likely Superbia, and the Lost Masters roles are constructed about them adapting the sin. In truth, their personalities are all the opposite of the sin they were assigned to.
The opposite of pride is selflesness(he even gets annoyed with Xehanort's trying to portray himself as a potential savior that understands everything around him). Combine it with the point above, about his companions, and there'd be a connection. 3:35-3:45
-The Master does not care about the lies, or the truth. He's alluded to the fact that the Foretellers didn't bat an eye on pursuing the truth, they just blindly believed what he told them to do.
The Master manipulated the events to get what he wanted, so he is somewhere between the truth and the lie. He's just vague in most aspects, specific in ones that "do not do harm."
His "I guess there's no harm" is a method of getting Xehanort's interest, because Xehanort himself, personality-wise, is a seeker, who wants to learn various truths.
-The Master mentioned fighting on the side of light in the Keyblade War, and also alluded to the fact that the darkness he fought against took forms that resemble them, only to then respond to Luxu that he didn't say that the creatures of darkness were human. That'd mean that Luxu thinks that the Master is human, and if the darkness took a form similar to the Master and his companions and the Master indirectly denied that the creatures of darkness were human, it'd mean the Master looks human, but is not. Would that mean he possesses heart? If not, then what if the Master is just one of the beings that were created solely by light, and that's why he doesn't have a heart, in-turn making it impossible for him to use darkness. That'd explain why he jokingly mentioned that he's scared of taking off the coat that wards off darkness, while being lowkey keen on "controlling" it. 5:08-5:30
-The Master thinks that the order is impossible to achieve, which means he doesn't believe in destiny. You are right about that. 3:15-3:21
Yep that sounds like every mom
@@motionisdead9796 the MoM Left before the Keyblade war he didn't fight in it
@@zimattack9994 That's the Keyblade War in KHX.
The Keyblade War itself has been going on long before KHX, and the Maser is the one that fought at the beginning of it together with other wielders. The Keyblade War itself does not refer to KHX war, it's literally a conflict that spans ages, and will be present as long as light and darkness will fight.
Watch the recent KHUX update called "Cornerstone of the World's Rebirth" if you haven't.
In my opinion Master of Masters is Deadpool of Kingdom Hearts & that note both of their personalities are similar to mine
“Guess there’s no harm in it.”
Well, apparently there’s enough harm in it that the audience listening to this cutscene isn’t allowed to know it :/
Exactly!!! Darn it can we know already!!!
Let me know!!! 😫😫😫
He almost seems to both be pushing Xehanort towards becoming the villain we know, while also presenting him the opportunity to walk away and being sad he doesn't take it.
Better yet. Remember X(chi). Luxu said MoM didn't care about the world going to nuts, but maybe interested in how the leaders were to handle that. Or did i missread that? I'm kind of sure he said that.
Well he knows because of the book what will happen, or not? So he know that it is Xenahorts destiny to become the villain but he do not like the idear of destiny so he tries to push him away to prove that the future can be change by him but it can not here.
Of course he’s pushing and sad at the same time. He’s seen everything that’s going to happen. He HAS to push him to the brink, but he wants to offer the option of choice. It’s like being God. You see sin, and know it’s there, but can’t get rid of it.
Like he said, hes pushing for destruction, yet he didnt say destruction of what. He doesnt care if your good or evil, he just cares that you do what you want, as long as his agenda continues
@@ZenoBell016 God can get rid of sin what you mean?
Wow, I can't believe the MoM was Eeyore this whole time.
Master of Master: "My name is... Nomura."
Nicky Book Watch this be fucking true.
Or Arumon...😐😐😐 that actually works...oh shit.
Nah it'd be like Uranom
sora i think
"My name is Walt D. Nomura" :v
I figured out the Master of Masters real name: Wade Wilson, seriously this scene its like Xehanort is talking to Deadpool.
I want this too be true
It's Superbius (latin for Pride), and his six students have shortened latin words for the other six deadly sins
Dead Pool belong to marvel so Marvel belong to disney Yes and somehow Deadpool can be Masters of Masters in Kingdom heart serie Universe.
Wouldn't be too far from reality, with Disney buying Fox, ergo Deadpool with it...
@@loverxxx Imagine everything before KH1 timeline was Wade Willson Plan all along.
Like Heartless & Nobody how it Connect to Deadpool plan like Weapon X Project that Logan was the Part of it to create Deadpool.
Xenahort: so your name?
Master of Masters: updoc.
Xenahort: what's updoc?
Master of Masters: exactly...gotta go😜
😂 wHaTs Up DoC
Watch his hand motions, especially when he does that sigh and slumps over. Demyx has done the exact same thing in a previous game. Demyx is playing everyone like a fool like he plays his sitar.
So what would his name be then?
@@LordVanOskuro Dyme.
@@Zarryon12 Is there significance to that name, or did you just scramble the letters without the x?
@@LordVanOskuro Well according to the organization...Demyx was essentially a Dyme a dozen. XD. Not to mention the only other names that made sense was Demy...which is stupid but essentially a play on the word Demi or the gravity spell....or Myde. and honestly nothing of those names really has no significance that i know of.
That would actually be a pretty fantastic retcon, since Demyx sticks out like a sore thumb in KH2 and Days due to his laid back nature.
Too bad we don't see enough of the Organization members to really make it the massive hit that it would be otherwise.
the master of masters is sora's mom obviously MoM
She became stronger and went back in time all cause her son didn't come for dinner
You have no idea how badly I wanted someone to make this joke.
Soooraa, dinner's ready.
Or it is his father
MoM: Master of Mom
So his name is "Photo"?
No no, his name is Photo.
Genius
Now that’s what I call a reference
hah, clever
Ok, that was pretty clever.
MOM: “My name is ....Noctis Lucis Caelum"
WHAAAAAAAAAAAA
Its ardyn
DONT STEAL MY ONE MOMENT NOCT
I'm. With it ffxv was my shit
Funt fact ray chase voices both noctis and Master of masters
People keep saying MoM is Sora, all I see is Deadpool.
I was thinking tobi
Its demyx
Yensid.
SOMEBODY FINALLY SAID IT
Lol meanwhile I keep thinking "What if it is Sora'
Yen Sid: “My name spelled backwards is...”
Master of Masters: “My name is...”
Sretsam fo retsam, that is a weird ass name
Just a pancake
@@xaviermaster1 Still better than Xehanort.
Unmora
Get it?
*chicka chicka* Slim Shady.
MoM is pretty much Sora: Who else would make an adventure that starts and ends with him in an infinite loop. Cuz you see throughout Kingdom Hearts apparently Sora both “exists” and doesn’t at all times. The master of masters and Sora seem to act more like a force than actual people neither is bound by fate or time just the destiny that they wrote for themselves/(himself).
Okay after typing this out it both makes perfect sense and no sense.
....
DAMN YOU NOMURA!
I actually did believe it was Sora. But we'll see in time.
My name is SORA he was not a master as well see the link there??
I know you mean the Master of Masters but I like how you shorten it to say "MoM". Sora would be a great mom.
No it Deadpool because he in marvel so Disney (Deadpool is MOM Joke)
If so MomM is Sora, and he is trapped into infinite loop, yozora has to save him from this endless fate?
“I’ve been having these weird thoughts lately.” Will have a different meaning and impact if the MoM is Sora. Just think about it.
lil skeet elaborate...how? Also I believe regard Soras quotes I think he’s talking to someone or people.
@TheKira708 I think the MoM would be a future Sora that has been through a lot more loss and heartbreak or whatever breaks him.
He realizes there is such a small chance of being able actually balance out light and darkness in perfect harmony, so he at this point has honed the power of waking to insane amounts being able to rewrite reality with no drawbacks. He creates an infinite time loop where he restarts all promising Lights to forever clash in the original keyblade wars and up to KH3s keyblade war until the day something changes where they figure out how to balance light and dark.
What we witness with the weird thoughts passing over and phasing through dreams are actually memories and moments other versions of his self that have died or are living in other realities. Remember it's stated when you sleep that's when you're closest to death and also sora goes to the final world everytime we see him in the station of waking, so it would be easiest to experience other versions memories and experiences while sleeping if they have died. Therefore, I feel that they are not dreams but they are memories like the quote “a scattered dream, like a far off memory, I want to line the pieces up yours and mine.”
Remember how the MoM asks young xehanort "what did you learn about your world trip?" and MoM he is disappointed when xehanort has come to no other resolution and will continue to try to rule over light. Regardless of if MoM is sora or not I still think the most likely situation would be the MoM is trying to destroy the current world of no balance of light and dark, but he can see all possibilities and the only way succeed in one of the realities would be to time loop infinitely until it finally happens.
lil skeet That’s actually a good way of putting it. I do believe the quotes have way more meaning too especially if the KH3 quote. But honestly I don’t want him to be Sora, it would be too redundant, we already have Vanitas who is a perfect evil version of Sora, the main character so to make the mom be Sora too....it’s like ugh I much rather prefer, him being a lot alike or even Soras ancestor, the reason why Soras heart can connect to so many others is because he is a descendant of the MoM I wouldn’t mind soemthing like that, and perhaps he’s doing all of this to take Soras body in the end as well as change the world but first he was to destroy it. I believe the Mom chose Xehanort, because he sees the world and people in the world perhaps how the Mom does.
Your right I do believe the MoM already knows all of this, that’s why he was asking Xehanort all of the right questions to further confirm his resolve even tho he knows what’s going to happen. That’s why he said, you’ll ditch the coat soon, because he knows the path Xehanort is going to go down. Man I really hope when Dark Road comes out we see them meeting for the first time. In the KH3 opening we see a kid looking at a dark light in the sky, perhaps that’s how they met.
Yeah it has been Speculated that,that is the case with the Master of Masters that he is possibly Sora.
HetaliaRussiaFan 01 But there is no valid proof or evidence that he is. The only thing people go by is the way he acts. But that’s just personality. It doesn’t mean anything.
i like the idea that the master of masters could be sora because that means sora is responsible for *EVERYTHING* . and that makes his character arc way more sinister than it needs to be.
Considering how Nomura has constantly stated that KH is Sora's story...it makes sense in a crazy way. The main character Sora ends up being the primary antagonist and primary protagonist all at the same time. Crazy but fitting for this series.
And it adds so much more symbolism to Sora holding Xehanort chess piece at the end of the KH3 opening IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND while Xehanort just looks at Sora's piece as the last one standing thoughtfully. Sora was meant to be the pawn to Xehanort but in the end he was always in Sora's hand?? The symbolism??
i feel like it would go against the core of sora’s character so i don’t like the theory personally
@@boustro me either but it's nomura, he already threw all that out the window by wanting to make his final fantasy real by kingdom hearts 4
Clearly, the Master of Masters is Yensid.
Tired of too many times he was unable to tell others his name spelled backwards is Disney
Ok, I believe you
Quack
ICH LIEBE DEUTSCHLAND!
Okay so either he’s like a future form of Sora who unlocked time travel or Luxord. I really do think he’s Sora or at least a version of him.
Agreed totaly sora
I think it's Luxord
He actually sounds like an older version of Sora if you listen carefully.
@@yurilowell217 There's also something about his body language that just says Sora.
@@LadyScythe true.
This might be my favorite scene in the whole franchise. The Master of Masters is so fucking captivating for me.
The way the Lost Master reacts to when Xehanort mentioned the exam. And the way he talks about the clothes and controlling darkness. He just sounds so similar to sora. What I mean is his responses sound exactly like something sora would be plausible to say based off his experiences. Mannerisms and speech pattern too of course. But it could be brain.
It would be a nice turn MoM being Future Sora.
I think it's Future Sora after all the crap he's done and Everytime turned down from the exams... Resentment breeds darkness
@@aaronlecklider1378 It would add a deeper layer to his character. Sora is way too easy going, merry go round. This is boring and somehow suspicious.
Its demyx
If you mirror brain and put together the i and n you can kinda get demyx out of it.
The way MoM does the Xehanort hand thing and also just has so much of Sora’s body language. WHATS UNDER THE HOOD OLD MAN!!
Exactly, my guess is Sora, if not him then Demyx.
I think it's gotta be Sora
This whole scene was to set up the new mobile game Dark road where they show the journey xehanort went through.
Just imagine, the MoM can be a master from the futur who came in the past (even when all the key house were there) to change the end of the story, so he know everything about the futur. Imagine the MoM who is a lost master is the futur Sora ahah
So the Master is just an older Sora's heart floating around in a coat... right?
everyone is either sora or xehanort, so you have a 50% chance of being correct.
If that were true, that would mean Sora is actively seeking to make the dark more powerful. The dark wouldn't have grown as powerful as it is without the paranoia he created through his "book of prophecies" and the resulting 1st keyblade war as well as Xehanort's campaign. All of it was his doing while acting as if he was trying to stop it.
@@cheerfulgestalt3282 no no sora is balance he experience both dark and light side.
@@kayboi619 Isn't that just Riku?
@@kayboi619 Also Sora has always been all about the light and opposing darkness.
only two people could match the same attitude and hand gestures as MoM:
Sora and Demyx.
what if one of em is an older version of himself? (or perhaps, an old relative?)
It's Demyx. I'm 99% Sure it's Demyx. Either his somebody or our Demyx. But he has something to do with Demyx.
@@voidlooksback this guy in the video, is not the real MoM but rather Brain
@@voidlooksback same.
I had thought it was Xigbar at some point.
idk who cares if its demyx you know? what does that do for completing sora's story? i think it makes more sense that it's sora somehow
The master of masters is probably just nomura not animated but literally just a picture of nomura
Dammit I was on the edge of my seat for this!
Same...I wanted to break my freaking screen -.- I should have known better!!
My name is....Deadpool
Julian Marrero of course! It makes so much more sense!
Somehow Darkness cant do anything to deadpool so he try to Teach other about Control theDarkness.
Marvel belong to disney so it can be Crossover but to had Deadpool as MOM is a good idea too.
Twist: He is Sora. He has the same kinda personality. Joking around etc.
if sora didnt have a pure heart, this is honestly exactly what he would be like.
He doesn't though? Wasn't that actually a plot point in Dream Drop Distance? That he had a lot of pent up darkness that Xehanort manipulated? And also supported by mechanics in 2 & 3 with Anti and Rage Forms?
Thats what i have been thinking.
Twist: sora is the MoM lost heart.
What if he’s actually Sora’s Dad?
MoM name or element is Truth/Light.
Notice when he says his name the screen lights up and nothing is heard.
Lost Master = The Truth that has has been lost to the currents of time.
What are all scholars interested in? The truth. Master of Masters says he could be a scholar.
Xehanort mentions in particuilar "understanding hearts is difficult, more so the emotions within" (everyone has conflicting emotions that can disagree from one person to the next)
Master of Masters says verbatim "Truth can only be seen not heard" which is inextricably linked with
May your heart be your guiding key... which means you can only determine the truth with your own hearts vision and not what other outside influences tell you
Master of Masters tells Xehanort subtly that one's own heart or truth can defy even fate
Master of Masters says he can "easily lie" but chooses not to... very interesting why he doesn't outright lie and instead gets visibly upset when Xehanort doesn't get the hint
He also poses both alternatives to the answer Xehanort is looking for, is he ushering in world peace or planning the destruction of everything? The thing about the truth is that it could be both at the same time. This outcome can be achieved by destroying everything to rebuild a more peaceful world.
And thats exactly what Xehanort wanted! (Holy moly its gone full circle) because Xehanort says how the world needs a new leader, one to guide them and show the truth.
The MoM really pushed him so hard onto that path.
Wrong. His name is Super.
Thats pretty interesting if his name was light specially since we know that theres a being by the name darkness which is most likly vanitas. Darkness merged with ventus's heart during khux then was torn from him by xehanort into a seperate being and renamed vanitas in bbs.
It wouldn't be the first time we've seen an element take form. And he was in a war against those beings. Plus the reason he can't face the darkness without his cloak is because he'd die. Fade. It would also makes sense as to why the X-Blade choice him. I have no doubts he's the first Keyblade wielder
Another RUclipsr had a theory that Master of Masters is an alternate version of both Yozora & Sora (including Yozora being a past version of Sora from a previous lifetime.) The evidence he used sounds legit & I would love it to be true especially considering Sora jokes around as much M.o.M but when serious Sora is kinda scary like Yozora so I’ll believe until we know the truth in this theory
Too Nomura to be canon
My first guess is Sora as well, his future self that loses everything and everyone he loves including Kairi and Rikku. That or a part of Sora that turned evil..you know how Sora is connected to so many people and had Ventus sleeping inside of him... I mean think about how he took Vanitas to be his right hand man...maybe he knew that was the future MoM and wanted to keep him at his side and raise him as he raised and helped Xehanort become the evil person he is now.
5:00 a small Hint of the Master of Masters' True Personality & Character.
It's Sora, towards the end Master of Masters says "May your Heart be the guiding key" words that Sora has lived throughout the story as he travels to different worlds and tried to master the Keyblade.
Master of Masters: My name... is Cory....
Young Xehanort: 😧....?!
Mark Morales is this an just a pancake refrence
The greatest anime character of all time.
Cory in the house XD
Cory Barlog, creator of God of War lol
His name is light! Compared to darkness! This is where darkness came from, the MoM removed the darkness from his heart, who then traveled into the future so he could time travel there!
He's totally Sora. The manerisms, that very child like outburst at one point...honestly, I thought at first that MoM could've been Demyx because he mentioned how he is too much of a coward to take off his hood but after hearing his speech, him saying he is a lost master, and then telling Xehanort to let your heart be your guide, sealed it for me. MoM is Sora. And Im thinking that constant tampering with time and space is what corrupted Sora and led him to becoming the MoM.
he does do Sora i give up pose
"Ooooooooh-
Tell me more."
Especially him saying the “results don’t matter” after he’s failed his test multiple times
But that look Xehanort gave him. It was surprise. Why would Xehanort be surprised to hear Sora's name
@@AndrewUchiha4747 Because Xehanort by this point established that he vaguely remembered his time travel to the future. The fact that Nomura made SURE to establish that Young Xehanort recognises the coat and wearing it but can't understand why shows that, like Namine said, memories can't be erased but rather hidden away out of reach. Xehanort has his memories of the future still but they aren't chained and so he can't properly remember. His reaction to MoM's name, in this case, makes perfect sense. The last person Xehanort talked to and the Guardian he had the most experience with in the future was Sora. He reacts to MoM's name, Sora, just like how Lea still had the memories of Xion when Kairi made his hidden memories start to resurface. The light shined behind MoM is the exact same effect that Lea saw behind Kairi when he started to remember Xion, but unlike Kairi, the MoM's face is covered so we don't get a visual other than the light. In both scenes the light sudden appears behind the person triggering hidden memories and both the MoM and Kairi don't have their backs to any sort of light source, proving the effect to be intentional. Xehanort was surprised, like Lea was, because the MoM was dragging out those hidden memories and he knew he recognised the name but didn't know how. That's also why MoM says it will be "no harm" because Xehanort cannot remember Sora and why he brings up the whole "lost master" thing so Xehanort will think he heard the name in an old story that were his and Eraqus' "favourite" so he won't focus too much on it and instead be drawn to his curiosity over the Keyblade War.
(6:10) - Future adult Sora who time-traveled to the past to change his fate?!
The MoM is Just A Pancake!! It’s obvious!! His true voice revealed!!
That or my guess is some dark version of Ansem the Wise or someone just super random
“The truth is what you see with your eyes, not what you hear...”
“You shouldn’t judge anyone by appearance”
-Demyx
And they both scarycats and have same mannerisms
Xehanort: who are you?
MoM: I could lie go with what you see
Xehanort: what’s your name?
MoM: KID WHAT DID I JUST SAY!
LMAO I thought the same thing 😂 Xehanort just never listens
I don’t even care at this point.
How long must we intently listen to pointless "dark/light/love/hate" jargon!? LOL 😂
Same. They need to stop dragging this shit out
Okay then shut up
The only people still going with it are the die hard sheep's that are the KH community that worship anything KH and lick the boots of Nomura when ever he announces anything about it.
Pedro Cruz-Vargas More power to them. It’s just a shame the storyline derailed so hard when they had such a beautiful thing going.
They just make this stuff up as they go while giving empty dialogue smh
Youre not wrong there, is pretty annoying tbh
They didn't say anything in this custscene
And still manages to make arguably the greatest story of all time.
@@SShaBazzz lol sike KH is entertainment it is NOWHERE NEAR a fantastic story and I'm a super KH fan boy
@@Kennethwells7594 actually, it's just a fantastic story.
I think MoM is Sora an a adult version that went back in time & young Xehonort will forget his name & identity when he becomes old man Xehonort cuz young Xehanort will loose his memories ones he leaves the future that he was in
Ohhh, but heres another one,
What if the reason why xehanort is so interested with sora its because he knew that Sora would one day become the MoM.
I don't think it's Sora, because even though MoM tells Xehanort his name, MX in the future says "I never found out who that person was, and perhaps I never will." Now, one thing we all know about Xehanort is that he has a ridiculously astute memory-I don't buy for a second that he would remember that encounter from a lifetime ago, and not remember the name MoM gave him, much less put two and two together to realize that the man who set him on his path just happens to have the same name as the little brat foiling all his plans. That one detail makes me certain more than ever that MoM is a brand new character we've never seen before, or at least an incarnation of a character we know that we've not yet seen.
There's the whole issue of time paradoxes and timelines resetting that could screw with his memory though, and the MoM seems to allude to that since he found no harm in telling Xehanort his name.
simple, time travel AND paradox
i think that i have finally put this all together, based upon all the evidence and clues we have been given.
firstly Master of Masters, tells Luxu that he was a young boy when the war began and that he didn't really have a master but that there were other keyblade weilders alongside him when the war took place. he tells Luxu also that the darkness was vastly different from what they know and that it took on a more familiar shape, meaning the darkness comes from the hearts of keyblade wielders. and that for a very long time now he has been fighting this darkness and is growing tired of the endless cycle which bore it.
now flash forward into time the Master meets up with one of his "future" disciples young Xehanort. and there tells him what his role and purpose in life is to be followed by revealing his true identity to Xehanort knowing full well of course that he'll eventually forget it due to time paradoxes and timelines ending and resetting.
The Master remains shrowded in mystery but the writers gave us one final clue "I'm a lost Master" meaning then that we can now pinpoint what era he is from he was from The Age of Fairytales, Kingdom Hearts X but not just in the sense that he was there as an adult but as a child too. but not just any child going back to his conversation with Luxu "there were many keyblade wielders back then.. but i was the only relevant one."
now let the sink in for just a minute.. "the only relevant one" The Master the reason he has no name (no pun intended) is because he is the player character.. the protagonist of Kingdom Hearts X.
knowing what we know of time travel this makes perfect sense, how else would he have known the foretellers, the war, kingdom hearts itself, the darkness, and the keyblade, if he himself didn't personally live it? but he did live it. he survived the war and went on to a new world line with the dandelions and then became a keyblade master and trained a line of successors in hopes the darkness would be defeated by one of their generations but it only got worser. until darkness engulfed the world and light expired, witnessing this thru his eye on No Name the keyblade engraved with his very own sight he saw events unfold. and so took it upon himself to rewrite history to go back in time and lead things in the direction he believes will lead to a stale mate between the forces of light and the forces of dark thus restoring balance and harmony to their shattered worlds.
Thanks for the headache.
Then again the Nightmare Chirithy's presence is very suspicious.
Deus Games
He knew the future because of No Name. Why do you think he passed it down for generations? So he could see future events with his own eye.
This is a really good theory however I think there's a hole in your explanation, what about the female avatars. If the mom is us the players from khux then you would have to include those who are female.
Good theory, im still banking its a older Sora
"My name...is JOHN CENAAAA!"
No wonder we can't see his face!
This scene is so much deeper knowing xehanort is the main character from union x
.............
2:51
He does not agree with what Xehanort is saying?? Is that anger? His boy language tells more than his mouth.
Those are Xehanort's hands.
@@mauriciofreitas1971 Yeah i do not know how people can overlook that.
I bet you it’s someone we’ve already seen but we probably wouldn’t suspect them
Pluto?
@@tekunachikushi9847 Yeah, maybe even Goofy if we're lucky enough. Lol.
Demyx.
Pete, obviously.
Sora's mother
"My name is- .......Demyx"
Lmao could u imagine
Demyx Time!
I could. And that's the scary part.
Dance water Dance
Well there is a theory about that and it makes sense but apparently if it is the community wouldn't be happy since they showing deymx behavior so much if it turns out to be him. Xigbar being luxu was a big twist but what becomes a bigger twist is you follow union x . I dont know if I'm allowed to say any spoilers so wont and xigbar being luxu isnt spoiler at this point lol .
@@martyrodriguez1524 I'm new to kingdom hearts. So why would people be mad if demyx was the master of masters?
Of course they'll do that its kingdom hearts lol
I know this is off topic, but I do recall one of the rules of time travel in the Kingdom Hearts world that once you return to your proper time you forget everything mentally, but your heart remembers the experience feeling familiarity.
But this is the first time I've seen how it works. Pretty neat!
Judging by the head movement in the muted section, MoM has a 3 syllable name.
King
Dom
Hearts...
He's the embodiment of Light created from Kingdom Hearts. He's basically Kingdom Hearts
Su
Per
Bia
Or something like that I'm thinking
Dam I swear to god
The more I watch this scene, I am even more sure he acts like Sora wtf
Look at his body language
Even more: he tells Xehanort not to let the exams decide what he can do.
- means even if he fails ..so what? He can do something..... like sora did...who failed the exam ...
If he ends up being Sora that makes his comment about the exam so funny because Young Xehanort was the reason Sora failed his, so in a way it's him getting back at Young Xehanort by subconsciously sabotaging him.
@@lilchaos9212 yeah :D
Me: So who is the MoM?
MoM: “ I am ERTEGUN! FIRE!!”
Let me guess we are going to no his name in that kingdom hearts Xehanort app
I wouldn’t doubt it 😒
Maybe. Maybe not even then. I just hope they don’t take so long with the next main installment
I'm pretty sure his name is gonna be derived from the latin word for "Pride".
Until his real name is officially decided upon and revealed, I'll call him Superbius.
Except Xemnas' epithet from the Organization of Nobodies was already 'the Superior' which essentially is Superbus, the word for pride.
@@FarBeyondStrange Yes, but when you consider that all of the Lost Masters' names were derived from the Latin names for the Seven Deadly Sins, and that Superbia(Pride) is very notably missing, it makes one of two scenarios likely. Either A) there is a missing seventh student of MOM who's name is derived from Superbia, or B) MOM's actual name is derived from Superbia.
@@thehighwayman3122 Well here is an interesting clue towards Superbia, look at the red spot on the black box. It has this on it: X Super. Maybe the box could be based on pandoras box the more I think about it.... They say it contains hope and that it must never be opened....
He gave xenahort a false name so he couldnt find him
The MoM speaks as if he knows about certain things that are going to happen. Like right here. He knows Xehanort won't be wearing that black coat for very long. 4:58
Xehanort then asks him "Are you some kind of fortune teller?"
When in fact he's just a guy who is among everyone else who has already witnessed these events and then traveled through time to manipulate it to happen the exact way it was meant to happen. Why? Because he knows of something that only he can change in the near future and the only way to do that was to travel all the way back to the past and set these events up in the first place so that he can undo whatever caused him to go on this time traveling adventure in the first place. Thus creating an infinite time loop. He could be anyone. Sora, Riku, Roxas etc. But whoever he is he's among one of the main crew members we already know of, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to bleep out his name.
i think mom true form is sora body but sora doesn’t know.
it’s so crazy. i can’t believe Byleth was the true villain of the franchise
MoM: My name is....
Us: WHAAAAA....? Tell me more.
Ohhhhh!? Tell me more
2019:
-why is the organisation still alive and why is marluxia and larxene still nobodies?
-why is roxas, xion and namine suddenly real beings? arent they nobodies?
-what is kingdom hearts exactly at this point? gathering of hearts...but what does it do???
-what does the x-blade do???
2020:
MY NAME IS YOZORA AND IM SORA....ACTUALLY NO!
Me: Fucka this ima out.
Jay Kalinka deadass tho.
It's explained how the Organisation came back and why Roxas, Namine and Xion are somebodies now. Pay attention.
Mahmoud point is this story feels like it’s just being made-up as they go along. It’s beyond convoluted as it is.
@@MahmWithThePlan what about my other points? Duh? Jerk
@@nerostile333 no need to be so rude, grow up little one and calm down. The X Blade is the counterpart to Kingdom Hearts, it lets the wielder control it. Kingdom Hearts is the heart of all worlds, an aggregate of hearts if you will. As I said, pay attention. Jerk.
Thats why in the intro of kh3 (main story) xehanort asked Eraqus about the lost masters
take a shot every time you hear the word darkness 😂
MoM - My name is Esteban Julio Ricardo Montoya de la Rosa Ramirez
Xehanort - 🤯
It's sora has to be attitude and everything
@@Zeddddy think about it he took the forbidden path traversing time and universes can't go back home he's lost hints to the to the master of masters being a lost master, not to mention young xenort got surprised at the mention of his name why? Cause it's sora young xenort already been through time.
@@faceunknown8966 Doesn't time travel erase the memories of the times you've visited once you go back though? Though, that only erases the conscious memories, the _heart_ still knows as has been evidenced before, so... hmmm...
@@faceunknown8966 Not to mention the animal motif to Superbia/Pride is a lion, the same motif that was part of Sora's original design.
...looking into the voice artist for the Master of Masters...he's also the voice of Gendo Ikari in the Netflix dub of Evangelion as well as Roy in Smash Bros Ultimate
OUR BOY!?
GET IN THE ROBOT XEHANORT
his name is robert paulson
Pretty flat-chested, tho
its definitely sora lol , look at the face my fears opening and sora is holding the chess piece
Could you tell me when this is shown in the opening?
@@acmfra8871 At the end of the KH3 cinematic opening, after the rest of the cast walks into the light and we see Young Xehanort staring at Sora's chess piece being the only one left on the board, it cuts back to Sora who looks down at his hand in the Final World and opens it to show him holding Xehanort's piece. If Sora does become the MoM, then that symbolism/foreshadowing is absolutely brilliant with MoM controlling Xehanort and leading him down his Destiny in this scene, making Xehanort just a pawn in the end, while Sora is actually the lone winner who Xehanort never had a chance from the start of taking out of the game/beating.
It can’t be Sora because if it was, would Xehanort not recognize Sora as the MoM when he first encounters him?
Xehanort never saw MoM's face, and I suspect that he didn't actually hear the name either.
I think the universe itself censored it. I mean in-universe as well as out of universe. A side effect of... well, whatever it is that happened to Sora.
How about this. If he knew was sora, would not make sense for Xehanort to fight him, so he can prevent what's about to happen? MoM is chaos, and Xenahort said to him that order was needed.
@@Revenante_of_Asylum Yeah, I think so too. Remember, Xehanort isn't meant to remember things from when he time travelled but he KNOWS the coat and his goal of balance like Deja Vú. Young Xehanort's heart still has the memories of Sora in the future and those memories try to come to the surface the exact same way that Axel started to remember Xion with the exact same light effect and everything, but the MoM's coat might've blocked it out from forming fully. What if Xehanort didn't hear the name because his heart censored it and THAT is why he looks so shocked? They literally made the scene mirror Sora confronting Old Xehanort about destiny and Young Xehanort talking to Sora while sitting next to him in DDD when they discussed time trave with both sitting the same way. And Xehanort doesn't remember the name until Sora beats him in KH3 and does his speech, which is why he says "very well done" and "you remind me of an old friend". REMIND. Sora finally REMINDED Xehanort of the MoM and Xehanort only at the end realises that Sora will become the MoM and chooses to praise him for his deception before giving willingly.
Calling it now: MoM is Sora as an adult. He screwed with time travel epically and ended up that way, hence why he can never take off his black cloak, or else time and reality will come crashing down on him.
My guess as well, however I'm guessing in the future everyone he loves dies including Kairi and Rikku so he allowed the darkness to consume him while driving him mad. Maybe he can't change the future and regardless they will both die so he wants to just speed up the progress.
@@Ayveh 3:39 especially this point, where he reluctantly admits that the world needs Xehanort; thinking if MoM is indeed Sora, he time traveled to meet with Xehanort to see if he can persuade Xehanort into stopping or hindering his ambitions, and even admitting that a false light to dictate the future is a bad idea - even after this point, asking that Xehanort has the power to change and what he REALLY wants to do. And then saying how Xehanort will become so powerful that he won't need the coat; that could either be construed as the intuitions of a master, or of Sora already knowing that he couldn't alter Xehanort's destiny to a favorable course so he tells it like it's going to be.
That, and the fact that the only other person I really relate acting as animated and lively as this guy is Sora himself. Their mannerisms and the way they act are identical, taking adult maturity into account as well.
@@Feare909 Exactly! It adds a tragic twist to this scene as well because Sora, even after all Xehanort did and the pain he caused, still wants to give Xehanort a chance to change. To say no to destiny. To stop everything before it starts. But he knows he can't, that Xehanort is already on his destined path and no matter of intervention will stop that.
@@lilchaos9212 Particularly at the end, when MoM says "May your heart be your guiding key..." The bitter defeat in his voice gives the impression that he couldn't do what he wanted to try as he walks away.
What if the master of masters is sora from the future?
1:19 Roswaal (Re:Zero) is coming out of Ray Chase's voice.
Same VA?!?
I hear Noctis at first
"My name is.... Master Of Masters" 😂
Omg 😂😂😂
Those who fight monsters be careful lest you become one.
I’m going going take a guess say it’s light. I mean there a character call darkness right and plus there a random light glow around him when he says his name
better than the MoM = Sora or demyx theories
Notice Young Xehanort is surprised by the MoM's real name. It's likely someone he knows, or hears of in the upcoming Project Xehanort game.
seriously I've been wondering for years whose face is under that hood
MoM is a zanpakuto!!
I can’t wait for kingdom hearts 4 to came out and too see who’s master of masters really is.
He also says may your heart be your guiding key. Which yen sid always says when you start a new quest. Mabey MoM is yen sid.
I swear, if this dude ends up being another Zeanort I’m gonna lose it.
Hex Yah did you not pay attention to the story?..
I feel that it's just Enix's name spelled backwards like Yen Sid. "Xine" (Shine)
Based on what we know, MoM is almost guaranteed to be some version of Sora from another dimension who's traveled through time. Pretty sure Nomura knows that fans can easily figure this out, but he wants to stretch it out for another decade or so.
6:11 OH COME ON!!!!! THEY REALLY GONNA DO IT LIKE THAT!?
Heavy hypothesis spoiler:
MoM is the Light half of The Darkness, both able to trascend spacetime, to find a way to get rid both Light and Darkness so the weak willed and Light fanaticals dont depend on power to face reality.
Think of it like a huge Persona subplot with keys instead of demons.
Master of master is Sora's MoM.
I bet MoM is someone totally unexpected that not even one of us had a single idea that it could’ve been that person. I guarantee it
Sora? No
Demyx? Nah
Luxord? Eh
Goofy? *W O K E*
I bet its Pluto
@@LuckiSir Broke: Goofy's son Max
he reminds me of tobi then into obito
xehanort was a fool like madara obsessed with making a world empty and pure when thats impossibleand i never bad for the old man when he was confessing his goal he hurt to many
"My name is....." Light?
My name is......
Slim Shady.
The MoM:
"The weak feel the need to justify their actions to maintain their sense of self. Can't let that slide???"
"Why not just let them be until the darkness consumes them?"
"Why not just sit back and watch it play out?"
"Me on the other hand? I'm too much of a scaredy cat to ever take mine off!"
Me: Oh hey Demyx, what's crackin?
Also.... once youve seen how kh3 ends and you discover Yazora...Yazora being a kingdom hearts version of Noctis Lucis Caelum, and do you want to know something intresting? The voice actor for Noctis Lucis Caelum in ffXV is the (dramatic dun dun DUN!) Voice actor for master of masters!
COME ON THROW US A BONE NOMURA😠😠😠
He did!
It was a Bone-arang. 😉👌
@@MrSuperbeast92 like literally lol Still Waiting on TWEWY even if he aint the director and new KH GAMES UNION X
For me, he can wear that coat till the very end. A reveal from a Character we Allready know would destroy the view imo. He is a Meta-being or at least nomura reprsenting him like that.
My name is... Noctis
And then a new trailer for versus xiii plays