The Story & Ending of Melody of Memory Explained
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If turns out the KH world is actually the fictional one, and those lost souls are humans from reality that cling to their childhood fictional memories. I might cry in existential crisis.
That would be 4th wall breaking meta sht😭
I hope not, that's the same twist from Star Ocean: Til the end of Time. It pissed me off so much that I noped the disc out of my ps2. Then traded the game at gamestop for credit the next day.
Oh, DanganRonpa V3? hahab
I was hoping that was the case once I heard Ansem talking about it.
I mean if Union X is anything to go off from, Daybreak town post-keyblade war was in Wreck it Ralphs world.
"This is a fantasy based on reality" - FF versus XIII Trailer 2006
The reason Kairi probably ended up on Destiny Islands was because of "Coincidence and fate"
The Coincidence being that Xehanort planned on throwing her into the void to find a keyblade user, and the Fate being that Aqua's spell would lead Kairi to a LIGHT that would protect her. Sora's light, a light that had already protected someone else before too, Ventus.
And keep in mind, at the time she was launched, riku was already bequeathed. So she went to a future keyblade wielder, and a source of light. Then there's also the fact that ventus' heart was there too which is pure light thanks to xehanort, and he also has a keyblade. So kairi went to 2 keyblades and 2 very strong lights
They're gonna have to make a CG movie just to explain the mobile games before the next main game. So much casual fans will miss and be confused about. Either that or a VERY thorough recap section because my god.
They probably just youtube it and end up on Damo's channel anyway lol cause the movie will probably just confuse them more
It woulda been cool if MoM had tracks from Unchained X, union cross, and dark road so that kairi could narrate.
would love some more back cover movies
Man I hope not. I'd really like a final console version, like a Kingdom Hearts Re:Union X. That would be a good, fun way to get the more casual fans caught up.
@@AndrewDeng Agreed. A console version that cuts out most of the filler missions and focuses mostly on the story, all arcs of them (with Ava and co, then ventus and co, then the final). I'd play that, even if still in chibi. Though I would prefer a proper cgi/3d version of the game. I doubt thats going to happen anytime soon though. There are probably tons of plans for new games and media that will get priority. I hope to be wrong. A proper game of that setting would be great.
Nomura is hell bent on making his “FF Vs. 13” project a reality....
Indeed so, and he seems willing to turn kingdom hearts into FF Vs 13 2.0 to do it if that's what it takes...
@Hudson Bradford Yeah. Vs XIII looked really cool until Square killed it with the mediocrity of 15, so I'd be very hyped if Verum Rex turned into an actual game for us to play
Well if I remember, FF vs 13 is a Fantasy based on reality or something like that
Wait a god damn minute. By versus 13 do they mean the FF cast will fight 13 Norted vessels? They either planned this for a decade or just pulling major bullshits together.
@@straypaper lol no. Final Fantasy vs. XIII is what FFXV started out as. It was Nomura’s idea and was going to be a spin off of the mainline FF series. Due to its development taking too long, though, Square axed him of the project and turned it into the rushed game that was FFXV
Sora: *goes to the real world*
Next KH villain: Depression
Underrated comment ngl
I mean that's kimda whta the unversed are already lmao
Secret boss fight vickaten and melatonin
Don't forget anxiety and seasonal allergies.
Endwalker moment
Dude, remember when it was just 3 kids chilling on Destiny Islands, eating paopu fruits and screwing around. This series just gets more and more complex and confusing. 😂
That happened in literally the first 30 mins, after that it was crazy so idk why you are so surprised
yeah KH has always been complicated, even in KH1 you had all the princesses of light stuff and darkness.
One of the reasons i can’t stop picking up new games. The crazy narrative DEMANDS my attention 😭
Yeah, at this point you can tell square is basically making it up as they go along
Complex and confusing is looooong past, we are now in compete chaos
Honestly, I'm not sure what people were expecting. Did y'all really think that Kairi was going to single-handedly demolish the main antagonist of the Dark Seeker arc? Frankly, I was impressed that she held up as well as she did.
Edit: After sitting on the ending for a few hours now, I have more to say. For the people mad about her not going with Riku, consider that Mickey was also forced to stay because it was too dangerous. Donald and Goofy aren't going anywhere either (which I'm thankful for because they'd be horrific in Quadratum's artstyle), so it wasn't unreasonable for her to stay as well. If anything, Kairi was wise in exercising a pretty solid degree of self-restraint by realizing that she couldn't mount a successful rescue operation (unlike Sora in KH3, who kept trying to go save Aqua). At first I was thinking that there wasn't any net gain or net loss for Kairi's characterization, but the more I think about it, the more pleased I am. Quadratum is quite literally uncharted territory, so it makes me happy to see that the characters are acting rationally and treating it as such.
@Vipergaming23 facts. Can't believe people thought Kairi was going to beat him.
Not beating the Big Bad singlehandedly is expected, but being reduced to the damsel in distress once again is not a gain for her character at all.
@@Celebi50 Well with that logic, how was she supposed to lose to the big bad without ending up as a "damsel in distress"? Losing a fight and needing help doesn't automatically turn you into a damsel in distress.
@Vipergaming23 I mean the fairy godmother kind of made the situation be like he had to go there and then hence why she brought all 3 together.
@@eternalpain7762 The problem is just that people have been wanting a proper Kairi game for so long. Then she got shafted to a music game. Then in said music game she doesn't even get to beat her own final boss by herself. You argue that against Xehanort that makes sense. I'd agree if not for the following issues with that. 1) thats not actualy the real xehanort but a memory version of kairi's. 2) Sora managed to defeat Ansem seeker of darkness when he was just a kid with no proper training what so ever. And right after Riku and Sora whipe the floor with adult experienced org members in castle oblivion. Going realistic with Kairi doesn't work if the franchise doesn't go realistic with the boys either. 3) Nomura could just as easely have created a final boss that Kairi could beat by herself. (and honestly I feel a memory version of somebody should qualify as beatable) Then further frustrations arise when Sora once again saves the day even when he is missing. It's like since KH3 characters are not allowed to defeat bosses withoud Sora's help anymore. It's not just Kairi that had this problem but all guardians of light have been mistreated since KH3. And the trent went on here. As a human being I do think Kairi made a mature and realistic choice. However this is kingdom hearts. Reality has no place here. People just want to see Kairi being done more justice of the bad ass kind like the boys have. People want to see her go on adventures like the boys, defeat her own bosses like the boys etc. if Kairi had been done justice before this game I doubt people would have been nearly as upset with her being shoved aside for the boys AGAIN. And thats exactly what happens. Sora saves the day, Riku gets to go on the epic adventure. Kairi goes being a responsible girl and ''train'' again. Considering the last time she left to train that resulted in nothing (not even screentime of her and Lea training) so people are sceptic her training with Aqua will give us any real substance to look foreward too. It feels like she is being shoved to background again. Of course we hope we're wrong and perhaps the next game is one starring Aqua and Kairi on their own epic adventure that results in Kairi learning the power of wakening and her going after Riku to join his side and be awesome together (because god knows those 2 need more character interaction thats not soley about their shared love for Sora omg. These friends didn't hug or touch in a friendly way even once.. Riku was leaving to a new dangerous world, and no hugs, no charms, no nothing. From either of them. It's to depressing for words.)
Oh my god, I remember a while ago when people were speculating that everything that happens in kingdom hearts is just a dream SORA is having, and when it ends, he wakes up he’s gonna go downstairs and eat his dinner. This stuff actually makes me think that could be true, all this talk about Unreality, and when SORA originally said “is any of this real or not?”
damo279: "It's interesting that she remembers Sora despite him rewriting the events of his own death..."
Nomura: "Oh shit"
damo279: "...which suggests the final world may be temporarily immune."
Nomura: "Ah yes, that's it!"
nah, We'll probably will get 3 games only to explain it, but in the end making it even more confusing
This is like Dark Souls lore
To be fair, namine remembered too
@@alejandromolina7270 Nah, Dark Soul lore is pretty easy to grasp but an not so easy timeline of events
Kingdom heart have a pretty straightforward timeline, even with all the time jumping, but a nonsensical lore to the extreme
"Previously on Kingdom Hearts"
"I'll be reading Jimmy Cricket's timeline Journal,all about Kingdom Hearts."
Sincerely , Kairi.
So according to Ansem The Wise, The Kingdom Hearts world is fictional to us, and our world is fictional to their world 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Zomrife pfft true 🤣 you done goofed Sora 🤣
Yell yea, wouldn't you imagine a world without heartless and nobodies if that's what you had to deal with day in and day out
He is very wise.
@@alialatrach9788 indeed xD
I can imagine it to be a twist that it might be the other way around (ie. Matter of perspective)
When he said Quadratum was latin for SQUARE and started talking about the wards of Tokyo, it made me look up a map of the wards of Tokyo. I was surprised to find that Shibuya and Shinjku are two of four wards that form a sort of SQUARE in the map of the wardsTokyo. The other two being Minato and Chiyoda. It may not be much but I thought that was quite interesting!
Square Enix’s headquarters is also in Shinjuku, so that could be even more direct for Quad.
@@gchu149 final boss ceo of square enix
@@eddinormalguy100 nah the secret boss in kh4 will be tetsuya nomura himself after sora goes to the square enix headquarters
Random thoughts:
- Quadratum also brings to mind the word “quadratura” :
“Illusionistic ceiling painting, which includes the techniques of perspective di sotto in sù and quadratura...to create the illusion of three-dimensional space on an otherwise two-dimensional or mostly flat ceiling surface above the viewer. It is frequently used to create the illusion an open sky...”
Sounds like a certain secret boss fight to me...
- What are the chances that one of the nameless stars we encounter in the final world is the heart of an upper or lower class men we meet in KHDR?
- Good catch regrading Riku’s pillar of light and Sora’s keyhole. It gives the impression that the Final world is truly final as it’s, in essence, the outer surface of the universe. Thus hearts gather here before they permanently leave the universe for good.
Last time I recall seeing a pillar of light like Riku’s was in the Verum Rex commercial. It emanated from Stella and pierced the sky in a similar manner.
I hate this series.
I love this series.
We also know that these characters are supposed to be remnants of what was FFvs13, right? But have you noticed that on Yozora's outfit, despite being a KH character, he has chocobos on his outfit? Not only that, but nobody symbols too. So is Yozora a nobody of somebody? He DID mention that he doesn't normally look like the way he does.
Not only that, but if he doesn't normally look the way he does, why is it that in the Verum Rex trailer, despite being in Quadratum, he looks just as he does when you fight him? Was his appearance changed prior to when that trailer takes place?
@@delaneyelekes8660 Yozora also sports crossed keyblades on his shoulders, and plaid (of course) embellishments on his clothing that are covered in squares.
I feel you're right in pointing out these costuming elements as important, Delaney. Especially taking into consideration Nomura's deep love of fashion and streetwear. I'm of the mind that the clothing in this series does some serious heavy lifting story wise and am surprised some RUclips fashionista hasn't delved into this area of the series. Ironically, the clothing in this series says absolutely nothing about what these characters would like to wear...it's all about who they are in the narrative.
they're going into the squarenixverse, wonder who will they meet
Could yozura be riku's nobody? We know he became a heartless in a sense with ansem, but never saw his nobody?
@@abidance6444 Maaaaybe? I kinda doubt it though. It sounds like he's from Quadratum, and I'm not sure how Riku's Nobody would make it that far.
Since Quadratum means square it makes sense that it is on the "other side" as the side we have been on so far has been made up primarily of Disney worlds and the Kingdom Hearts games are made by Disney and Square Enix
Weren't all ff characters from another world? In kh1 aerith or someone says they followed ansem. Then in other games they are all in radiant garden
so the next one will be primarly squareenix worlds with disney characters sometimes
@@EduardoTorelly How freaking cool would it be if all of Final Fantasy's empires were united by the Galactic Empire?
While I doubt it'll ever be confirmed, I get the feeling that the Fairy Godmother is secretly part of a pantheon of Disney gods.
Lol I can see this, Yen sid and Merlin too. Keep an eye out for blue wearing magic folks in disney. (pinocchio's blue fairy as well maybe)
@@amberanime Merlin, maybe. The Blue Fairy, definitely. Yensid, he already has a backstory as a retired keyblade master so I doubt it.
I find it contrived that Fairy Godmother can just bring herself, Kairi, and Riku to the Final World just like that. But I did remember some things about that place.
According to Chirithy, the Final World rests between the afterlife(ie Kingdom Hearts) and sleep. If we were to take Fairy Godmother’s power over dreams at face value, then she is powerful enough to travel through dreams until she reached the Final World. Having Kairi along who had dreams/memories of that place would make it easier to find it.
I wish we get a proper explanation but oh well.
@@marcoa6319 I think that is the explanation. She rules over dreams and with that comes sleep and all sleeping worlds. She can go to and from these worlds if they are within her range of dreams.
@@devilovesdevil Doesn’t explain why she didn’t help in DDD in the first place.
It could easily be a retcon or you need someone who’ve been their before in the dreams to use them as a conduit for travel.
The city of Quadratum or rather the world of fiction is so god damn versus 13, if i recall correctly versus 13 was supposed to be set in the real world. So the world of fiction is not really fiction, but rather reality and the KH world is actually the world of fiction. It would fit well into the super meta convoluted story of the KH series.
All about perspective and it’s complex not convoluted
I'm just glad the voice actor for Xehanort actually tried to sound a bit more like Nimoy this time.
Unreality? Well. I've been having these weird thoughts lately. Like is any of this REAL or NOT? None of this makes sense to me...Until now.
And by the end of kingdom hearts 4 Sora is still not a master
Let it go
I dont think its gonna really matter in the world hes in honestly
Plot twist: Sora becomes a master in Kingdom Hearts IV but loses the title of master again so he has to get it back in the expansion DLC "Kingdom Hearts 4: ReMastered."
don't think he gives a fuck given he can fuck up anybody in kh
By kh 4 he's dead
Damo- the Alt Schwift X of KH fandom 🤩
Please don't stop lore-ing!
Next we will introduce "multiuniverse".
The kh universe is far bigger than what most people expect. The "worlds" we have been visiting are already universe sized which means there is already a multiverse in kingdom hearts now it's another multiverse that's being introduced
@@turnerbrawley4715 A hyperverse? A metaverse? An Ultraverse? Consecutive layers of reality where one of the layers is composed entirely of cashews? Anything could happen!
@@RoyalStarlord look up how strong is sora by Seth the programmer and how strong xehanort is by Web Cam parrot they go into much better detail than I can
@@RoyalStarlord proper term is Omniverse
@@turnerbrawley4715 True. There are multiple Earth's in the kh world. Same planet, different aspects. Kh worlds aren't really worlds, they are dimensions.
When you remember that old interview Nomura, before he was taken out of FF Versus XIII, saying how the parallel between Sora and Noctis is important to the story and all, Noctis Caelum meaning Night Sky (as now Yozora also means Night Sky) and how he was planning for KH e Versus XIII to connect in some way, we can see how he planned this move from the start!
The part of the interview at Japan Expo:
Finaland & FFDream: You’ve created a lot of characters for the Final Fantasy series. What’s your favorite character between all those you’ve created ?
Tetsuya Nomura: Hmm if I had to choose a favorite character, I would say Sora, and Noctis. Why them? Of course Sora, I’ve been together with him for more than ten years now, this is the first time i’ve been with a character for such a long time, so he’s very very special for me and he’s been adopted by Disney also, so he’s a very very good boy. More like a good son actually.
Also there is Noctis, he hasn’t been in front of you, I mean moving etc yet in a real gameplay but he will soon, in the future.
Do you know the name Sora mean the “sky”, in japanese and Noctis, his family name is Caelum which mean sky as well so basically, Noctis mean “night sky”, so they are kind of complete opposites to each other. There is a reason why I named these characters as opposites. Noctis is kind of like my latest boy, or latest son and I expect him to be more clever than Cloud.
I still womder if the Master of Masters has more to do with this game than we think. The game having the same initials(MoM) seems a little too suspiscious and coincidental.
I have looked to Japanese websites about any spoilers of MoM, and till so far I have not seen any mention of him anywhere. So maybe for this time it is just a coincidence after all. Which is not to say that we will never see him again. With the story of the Black box i am almost certain that he, or at least his story, will play an important role in KH IV (at least, if they will still call it that)
@@KAvanAlten i think theres a connection, we just arent able to see it yet. Something that will come back around later and make so much sense. But since we dont know anything, we dont know what to look for :)
@@crashboredom2 Mom is manipulating everyone into his "new game". Setting up the pieces.
@@Fragmentsinfractals488 technically. Hes been doing that the entire time though. If he never gave the foretellers roles and told them there wpuld be a traitor, there would also be no keyblade war. He caused everything from beggining to end, and he knew exactly how it would all go.
@@crashboredom2 Yes. However, I am speaking more Meta. I think Mom is setting up the game Young Xehanort and Eraqus will be playing, and on a metafiction level, the games we will be playing. He needs Sora to be in "Square" so he can "play" him. Its a fiction he is standing in, with a goal he wrote.
When we get to riku's game, if we dont see "the world is square" somewhere in the game, I'm going be dissappointed.
Would be a nice reference to Final Fantasy VI
@@zackfair6203 Yeah but also, I think it was squaresoft's motto or tagline back then. Does anyone know?
Minecraftia.
@@Mysticgamer YES.
I feel like they could have given the other reality a better name than “Unreality” or “Fiction”.
Like... fantasy lol
Hearts, heartless. Somebody, nobody. Light, dark. Reality, unreality. They tend to keep things pretty simple, haha
I thought it was pretty cool.
@@crashboredom2 and clean
@@crashboredom2 Imagine using ''keep things pretty simple'' as a way to describe anything in KH. I agree with you btw but still.
What if the twist is that KH is the fictional world in this scenario, while Quadratum is the real world? Maybe the reason Sora can't speak is because he's on the other side of the screen...
What if this is what the "I've been having these weird thoughts lately... Like, is any of this for real... or not?" quote trying to say?!
Maybe both worlds are fictional on each side.
Oops.
I wonder what the wreak it Ralph world is then
Danganronpa v3.... OMFG HAHA
The way Riku teleports away reminds me of the Wonder Trade in some Pokémon Games. Are we sure Riku is being sent to the right fictional universe?
Plot twist the entire kh plot is a bad trip yozura is experiencing after dropping some major acid
I really enjoyed this explanation and I love that you imply the possibility of Kairi becoming a Master I think it would be interesting to see
Kairi is trash in fighting would be lame if everyone can get a keyblade now
Wait, wait, wait! Darkness, Light, Dreams, and Data all make sense now! WOO! What a time to be alive.
The possibilities are endless! So many Final Fantasy Worlds to choose from. Can everyone imagine Sora meeting Tidus in Zanarkand, or maybe going to Spira with him! Bumping into Auron again. I'M SUPER EXCITED!
Can you imagine Sora’s reaction to Tidus & Auron if they meet near the climax of FF10? Just like “Tidus is a dream? So technically not real... And Auron is a Ghost? But then how’d you end up with Hades?”, while pulling Tidus in disbelief and just being like “Actually yeah that makes sense with Auron”
Imagine all the FF charaters from kingdom hearts that dissapeared like Zack Cloud Auron were all in the same world as sora is right now. We would have an endgame lol
I actually wonder if the girl's name would be the Japanese word for "star" instead of the Latin, "Stella" (just like how Noctis Caelum was switched to Yozora). Google translate tells me it's "Hoshi"
Maybe her name is Hoshizora (Starry Sky) with the nickname Sora.
@@gustavju4686 i mean, it could be... but there's not enough evidence for me to think that her name has anything to do with Sora tbh. Still, it's a possibility
Just wanted to say how much I love your KH videos. Square should totally hire you for localization. Heck, Nomura should hire you because you seem to be able to keep this almost as straight as he can! Any thoughts on MoM (melody of memories) having a connection with MoM (master of masters)?
19 years to see Kairi finally doing something . But this what the hell . They tease to show Kairi was going help Sora to fight the 13 darkness.
That was last game mate. U behind?
@@ma.2089 I haven't played remind or the mobile game . I pick the wrong KH game to stop at .
I mean...she saved Sora 3 times or something. So just didn’t use a keyblade but her light to save Sora.
i wouldnt doubt her being the next MC of the franchise, with an arc all of her own. she has everything to be the next lead, an objective, nowhere near strong enough, and a special ability that is unique to herself.
@@saxenartkind of lazy if you ask me
No "fictional" worlds... but worlds of "fantasy?" That the portal to is from the last world. Synonym "final."
I could be looking to much into this or i could be looking exactly right for kh lore lol.
Even in death sora protected bae
Banished not dead, but still he protecc
Here's MoM explained: Nomura is on crack and hates Kairi so much he made another game just to shaft her at the last second. Thanks for playing!
@Vipergaming23 I mean Aqua gotten shafted a bit too back in KH3, but we'll see come KH#....damn I forgot the last # we were at😅
@Vipergaming23 lmao she literally transformed into Sora during her big moment and then Riku told her not to come along. Wasn't she supposed to be training so she could fight in KH3? Wonder how that worked out 🤔
@Vipergaming23 Continue assuming that's what I'm referring to
@Vipergaming23 i know she didn't literally transform into sora, the point is symbolic. when she needs to fight, she receives aid from Sora and takes on his appearance and moves. Basically, she needs to become a man in order to win the fight. Not everything is literal.
@Vipergaming23 Riku is not a woman, so that wasn't a gender thing. Also, Riku had already been a playable character in two games and had been established as a certified badass. This, however, was Kairi's first time actually having the plot focus on her and she relived Sora's memories, which, fine, I get it's a rhythm game using reused assets. But at least give her something to do during her ONE moment to shine after you got hammered for making Kairi absolutely useless and dependent on Sora in KH3 after she was like, "next time, I'll protect you."
Quadratum is going to be a very important subject for KH4 or another Kingdom Hearts IP. Plus, I just feel like there is a very strong connection between Sora and Yazora. In fact, the connection is quite literal at this point- near same name, same design, yeah... Maybe Riku will fight Yazora and free Sora's heart from each other or something, not sure.
Some thoughts of mine:
- I know we saw Shibuya and Shinjuku, but perhaps in Verum Rex's world, they're simply merged and recognized as one bigger city called Quadratum. Hrm...are there two other districts of Tokyo that could be part of Quadratum?
- We may have seen a few fictional worlds up to this point - namely, Hundred-Acre Wood, the Other Twilight Town, and Game Central Station (including Niceland, Cy-Bug Sector, and Candy Kingdom, of course). Maybe even the Scala ad Caelum that was generated from Xehanort's memories through his portal.
- Did Yozora and the star lose their bodies in a similar way that Luxu claimed semblances over the ages? If so, they may have been replaced by people with a similar power. Actually, what's become of Yozora's two comrades, Magia and Aegis? Also...how many Foretellers was it that answered Luxu's call, again? Four of them?
- We still don't know who the three remaining New Seven Hearts are...but maybe we will within the next two games?
Lol “the pieces are falling together so cleanly” lmao this story, i don’t think so lol
that moment when you realize fucking Rex from toy story already played through the next game apparently because he even recognizes him lmfao
Remember back when we thought there was and could only ever be one keyblade lol The good ol days
That was never something said in any game. The first game has literally 3 keyblades on it
@@MiloKuroshiro Riku says there can’t be 2 keyblade masters and at that point master meant a keyblade owner as far as we knew. Also, throughout KH1 Sora is referred to as the keyblades chosen one
@@Scrabble12 i heard that was a translation error. Think instead of master it was supposed to say keyblade hero yet even still they meant master over that specific keyblade not master of all keys.
@@Scrabble12
1. that was a localization change. He most likely meant "keyblade wielders"
2. Riku was also a naive 15 year old brat who acted like he knew everything
@@Scrabble12 yeah I remember riku saying that but then I also remember Mickey having one at the end of the game... so 🤷♂️.
Damo279!!!! You are the single most epic person after Everglow for obvious reasons. Thank you so much for being in depth and brief at the same time. I appreciate you!!!!
I totally agree. Your explanations at least in the two videos I've seen awesomely piece together very well. Well done! I simply love KH :)
I love Kingdom Hearts so much
What if the Kingdom Hearts series for Disney + is the adventure of Riku in Quadratum, but it is Live-Action and the world of fiction is our world?
I actually could see something like this...
There is (or will be) a disney+ KH series? Where did you hear this (because this is WILD)?
@@authoreyes101 Well there were at least some rumors three months ago. Although the Investor Day did not reveal anything. So it was only a wild guess. Don't get your hopes up. : I
@@mistercapcrime7002 I see 😔
I have issues with KH MoM, I’m 50/50% about it, I feel like we are in the situation similar to Recoded. We go through old games just to get juicy lore at the very end of the game, sucks that this is only the 3rd game out of 5 or more. I love the story, but couldn’t Nomura just add this to remind, idk man. I’ve already accept it but I’m not surprised since we’ve got 7 games, 3 movie cutscenes, 2 mobile games, and now a Rhythm game. I just hope the next idea isn’t a waste of time but not at the same time since it is important, I just don’t want anymore games that have the player go through old games like how Recoded was ever again but that is just my opinion and everyone has the right to have their each and very own opinion.
Your take is synonymous to pretty much everyone's feelings. This was just another desperate cash grab.
@Vipergaming23 Those have to be the worst counter examples😅
Last I remembered, neither of those games emphasized story unlike MoM..they were just rhythm games, nothing more or less than that..& where was it said that I had any expectations? But continue pretending to know it all
nomura literally pushed off the idea of a rhythm game until disney got wind of it and pushed him into making it. they're pretty hungry for that sweet sweet kh revenue
And I'm ok with that. MoM is just a excuse to have a fun rhythm game, and coded originally was just a fun way to put the franchise on mobile phones.
Ya know you're not wrong i like the fact i can go back and listen to every kh soundtrack(disappointed that we don't get the . tracks since some are actually the best versions of the regular ones) and lore but the fact we must go back to every god damn world again and have 80% of the game be recaps of the old games is just mind numbing
Dude .. its like you have a PHD in Kingdom Hearts lore. Great stuff
Maybe Sora and Yozora are the same person but from different universes, just like Stella is to Kari but in their own world.maybe Sora must have traveled to an alternative dimension for breaking his own world’s laws. The video is soooo detailed and I love it. I’m So gonna subscribe to you❤️
6:30 I never thought of that! 😄
Although it make Sense that she remembers Sora despite the Time Travel! 😂
I mean Chirithy remembered Sora in Remind even though he changed the Timeline! It make sense! 😂
Maybe memories World would also be how they used Master Xehnort as a portal and teleported to Scala Ad Calam,
Using Kairi, and visiting different worlds through her
Maybe the nameless star, to Quadadrum, so maybe the Power Of Waking is also looking at memories too
Riku was already in Quadratum, through his "fictional" and "not real" dream.
I honestly think that the star that they talked to is actually Ava, the missing Foreteller. One of the reports in Kingdom Hearts 3 implies that Ava was locked away in the experimentation area of Radiant Garden, so it’s possible that when the place was raided by the Heartless, she somehow ended up being sent in Quadratum. She could also be the girl in the Verum Rex because we’ve never seen what she looks like under her hood and mask.
I know this is two years late, but if it's Ava who's the "he" she's waiting for?
Nomura wrote himself into a corner.
You mean he wrote himself into a Quadratum.
@@kyrolazioko4783 gtfo
Remember what sora said in the opening in the first game. This has been planned from the very beginning
@@BarachielGaming that is complete and utter bullshit. This games story has been retconned to confusion and the story continues to evolve with Nomura randomly adding new shit he has pulled from his ass and trying to tie things together by the thinnest of threads.
@@feckert7301 ....mmk
All I could think of when Yen Sid was talking about the ancient masters and traveling to different worlds was how Ven might fit in. If Ven is able to regain some of his past memories from his time as a Dandelion, he might be a huge help. Because unless the Foretellers left clues behind in the destroyed real world, all the Dandelion leaders assumed that they perished in the war, and all the other dandelions lost their memory of said war ever happening.
I literally had to restart this video 19 times cause I got so lost.
I find it interesting to see fictional characters talking about another reality thinking it is fictional. After all, we ourselves call our own reality the "real world", so why wouldn't fictional characters do the same with theirs?
I imagined a scene where Sora, after being sent to this other reality, sees things in stores, like movies, games or other merch, about characters or worlds that he has already seen, like Hercules, Frozen, Tron, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc... And which in this reality are considered as fictitious works. It would be an interesting turn of events I think and quite a shock for Sora.
Final fantasy versus 13 is in the unreality and we are going to quadratum(square) enix to go fight. Nomura really is a salty man indeed
We shall fight the ceo if we must XD
I thought about that too! XD
It'd be pretty hilarious if MoM reveals his face to look exactly like Nomura's.
@@JustLou08 That'd be cool, and MoM's motive is to take over SE in that "fictional" world to make Verum Rex world (FF13vs) a reality lmao. That'd be so petty and funny I'd love to see it.
Feels like he just wants to turn KH into FF Vs 13 2.0 and I hate that,
Here's the thing though, I wouldn't mind FF Vs 13 2.0, if he actually gave the kingdom hearts series a satisfying conclusion instead of trying to forcefully meld the two together.
Its 2022, a few weeks ater the announcement of KH4, and the girl in that star (and the 3rd key) is Strelitzia. And we finally get a look at Quadratum.
I would have loved a Kieri perspective game, where we see scenes the tie into KH1 and KH2 to KH3.
And can we all agree that Xion is just Sora and Kairi's love child like serious that's how she was born
My God. This video matches exactly what I came up with. But I didn't look into the real cities. Nice to know someone knows there kingdom hearts lore
The fact this man can talk about this nutty lore so straight ..."faced"... is impressive.
Almost sounds like they want to get out of the Disney and Final Fantasy settings. Can't really think that using these properties is practical or the best way to tell the story anymore.
So ready for TAV to have capes again
The world ends with you fictional Shibuya.
Different Shibuya
one thing i hope from kingdom hearts is the key blade war. in general just to be able to use the keyblade armor like in birth by sleep and being able to play in the world of the ancient keyblade masters in their world
I love Kingdom Hearts however have only played 1-3 but wow this thing kept going! I seriously did not realise how long the story has gone for with all the other games in between. Really appreciate the explanations! Super helpful. Hopefully the next one brings some closure - total sucker for happy endings 🤪
Yes. Quadratum is Shibuya. Sora is in Japan. Holy guacamole.
Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhh boi was waiting for this since the stream
You know what another word for fiction is? Fantasy. Plus the fact that Quadratum = Square, leads me to believe the next game is going to be more focused on Final Fantasy & Square Enix properties insteadof Disney ones.
This also opens the door up for other properties too. Things that Disney owns that aren’t Disney properties. We can totally have Star Wars or Marvel or even Fox properties in KH now.
Can't spoil to a guy who spent all day playing it and felt dead inside afterwards.. Ha, jokes on you
Chill lmaoo like I would be dead inside also
@@lucidsoliddale6877 It felt like torture lol, but I was actually really into it
My mind melted by the end of MoM, I wonder if "fiction" means other Square properties outside of Kingdom Hearts, since we're seeing Vs 13 & TWEWY referenced.
sad that even in what's supposed to be her own game Kairi is undercut by Sora having to save her rather than her saving herself for once
There’s no way after training for a few months (at most) that she’d be ready to take on a highly experienced master. She has zero fighting experience.
@@ilicia_08 except she's actually quite strong (see Re:Mind battle as Kairi). Sora had little to no training and on the whole did fine (why does he suddenly know how to use shotlocks or use attraction flow?)
She should have just fought herself or if the Sora memory had to come save her let it fade away as she takes over the fight herself. That way she's isn't just doing stuff in cutscenes. Especially in her own game
@@LuminousArc92she was shit in kh3 and suddenly full of power in remind and then became shit again in mom. Wth…
So interesting idea I had when I first saw the secret ending for Kh3 is that they are going to a square enix world instead of a disney one. We've never traveled to any world within square enix and with the main building they show in the post credit scene being the 104 skyscraper in Shibuya much like in The World Ends With You (TWEWY) which has the 104 skycraper in Shibuya being the central area for the game instead of our worlds Shibuya having the 109 skyscraper
Lol, Man..the only good explanation i came up with so far on how Sora was able to do what he did an Kh mom is the Paopu Fruit which Kairi an Sora destinies or intertwined they are part of each other's lives now ...🤷🏽♂️
I swear Skuld has relation to Xion somehow. The more I learn the more I see it
Love your vids damo!
Referring to Yozora changing appearance and heart is a reference to how he went from Noctis to Yozora.
man KH is so complecated
I think the star is actually strelitzia, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Sometimes i wish the story ended with 2
@Estrogen Fury couldn't have said it better
2 has the perfect ending man for the entire series..
Then don’t buy the other games it’s not hard.
@Estrogen Fury What are you talking about and why are you calling me stupid? If u don’t like the games and think it should’ve stopped don’t buy it. If I don’t like something I just don’t buy it. I thought that was common sense.
@Estrogen Fury gee don't cut yourself on all that edge
I hope it being the latin word for Square, means there will be more Square enix worlds/characters in unreality/Quadratum, other than final fantasy and twewy I mean
I feel like theyre going real meta with the story moving forward and I'm all for it.
at this point nothing makes sense and everything is weird and stupid and I LOVE IT
Convoluted story stuff that is still very comprehensible if you just put your mind to it and play by the game’s rules and logic, is why I love this series. It’s so convoluted and ridiculous, all say. No, it just gets very abstract at times.
Huh. Remember Joshua using Rhyme's dreams as his portal, Riku using "Stella" as a portal makes sense.
It's actually a lot simpler then that, you've gotta go threw the final world (the bridge) to get to the worlds of fantasy, mind blown
Cant wait to see your take and see if you’ll be up there with us, but that’s just if you truly understood the ending
Very base level take, but it’s respectable, very hard to comprehend if you don’t see the games as a physical representation of a spiritual journey
And then we will find out kingdom hearts only exists when you merge reality and unreality into one
The story to KH is really a great one
Anyone remember Sora’s ♟ surrounded by the Lost Masters ♟‘s.? The next KH entry is going to b insane. MoM just added to the build up. 😭🙏🏼❤️
yOU KNOW THE STAR MUGHT BE sTRELIZIA, whihc would tie in nicely to your Union Cross video
The real question is, if they’re going to our reality, how are we supposed to pad the runtime by doing absolutely nothing in Disney worlds?
It is simple, do what KH3 do. Search for clues in the disney world and you will find nothing until you realise the clue is in front of you the whole time
@@adamazmi6340 that’s sounds more like Kh2 after the 2nd hallow bastions visit ☠️
this series is convoluted as all get out
but i love it anyway
"Physically change beyond recognition" meaning Noctis turn Yozora and due to model chance technically it's a physical change?
6:24 huh, I never thought of that!
8:10 I notice how you said the city's name right when the subtitle appeared.
So like, if they are bringing "fictional" worlds into this, where does that put Winnie the Pooh?
Thank you! Especially when the fairy godmother showed up i was like... is she throwing a curve ball and taking them into the hundred acre woods
Poohs world is more like a pocket dimension than a reality or realm. Think of someone creating that book and the creatures inside come to life or the world is made from childhood wonder.
8:34 I just want to bring up the fact that an inexperienced Sora saved the universe and an inexperienced Riku could still hold his own against multiple threats throughout the universe how does Kairi suck so bad? What training does she actually need? Sora was literally self taught. I mean yeah maybe she can’t fight xenahort someone with actual keyblade training. But like she should be able to hold her own.
This is such ridiculous plot convolution and filler at this point, the series ended at the end of KH2 for me
Nah bro forget about all the Disney shit. Just focus on the original worlds and final fantasy world content. You’ll see how crazy and dope this shit gets. Hopefully they leave the Disney stuff behind if they make it so those worlds are just fake
I think because they are in the unreality world, parallel world, they keyblade would be either unusable or practically useless. In their world it is a power weapon that not only cuts anything, but opens all locks. In the unreality world it is useless cause the power that gives its ability will be useless there, light and darkness. Sora and Riku making use of conventional weapons (by square’s standards) until Kairi arrives bringing a bit of magic with her from their world allowing them access to their key blades power when they needed it most
So yes they could use all of their flow motion and abilities, but none of their magic or weapons in the unreality
I'm still holding on to the theory that the Nameless Star's name is the same as the spiky-haired keyblade boy.
that actually makes a lot of fucking sense, 7:26 thats brain in the middle from union