The prices are even more crazy in Europe, I live in France and for the spec that you are testing you would have to pay 4799€ which is 5402$ currently, this is mindblowing to me.
Cause there is "POTENTIAL MARKET" for everyone, people have too much money to spend, don't know what to do with it, end up spending on things they don't need.
Never understood the comments about Razer laptop's "good build quality". I've had nothing but QC issues that was replaced only to have motherboard die out 6 months later on my first and last Razer Blade. The Aluminum chassis is also nowhere near durable as Magnesium Alloy + Carbon material used on premium laptops from other brands.
@@blue4059 Had the exact same experience with my 2017 Blade 14. First and last razer laptop I've owned. The build quality at first glance and by reviewers leaves a good impression, but their QC and reliability issues are pretty legendary at this point. That along with terrible customer support.
As a previous Razer Blade owner, I topped mine out with the highest of all options for around $2500. This one topping out over $4K is ridiculous. I will definitely be waiting for a big discount or looking for a near competitor next time.
The Lenovo Legion lineup might be a near competitor you can look into. I bought a Legion 7 AMD RTX 3080 for $2300 from Lenovo's online website. Those are pretty high specs for half the price of what Razer is asking you to pay.
@@SeemsLogical I appreciate the input, but I don't really see it as a competitor or viable alternative. The Lenovo has a very "gamery" aesthetic compared to the Razer Blade and its build quality isn't even in the same ballpark. You pay more for the Razer Blade for its impeccable build quality with aluminum unibody design, per-key RGB (first in the industry), better screens, better trackpad, vapor chamber cooling, etc. Plus, the Legion's just plain bigger, especially with the vents in the back. And the power brick is massive compared to the Blade's small one. The reason the Legion and others are so much cheaper is because they cut corners on build quality and components to maximize the CPU and GPU. And that's fine if those are the most important thing for you and you usually use the laptop at a desk on an external monitor. But as a complete package, as an actual laptop, it's not a competition. I used my Blade all around the world. Took it to Europe, Asia, Egypt, even on safari in Africa. I could count on it and it was the perfect portable package.
@@genlongtsang1093 I got last year's model back in June. I could have waited a bit longer for the 2022 model to release in August but at the time it was unknown when it would release and I didn't need the newest version. Mine is the AMD version with 3080, which version did you get?
Disappointing to see to price increase this much despite the performance being so underwhelming. I love the razer design, build quality, and performance but at the price point of $3700 - $4000 I don't see any justification for the average power user when there's already a lot of great options that are still sleek and allow for more thermal/power headroom. I'm looking forward to seeing this compete again the ROG Zephyrus M16 with the same 3080Ti spec since the GPU in the Zephyrus has a little bit higher TDP.
I think the "performance/cost" analysis is a fair assessment for desktops, but when we're talking about laptops, you have to factor in everything. I don't see the issue with paying money that goes towards something other than performance.
@@Nathan-tg4gu but it doesn't win the portable category either - and it doesn't the balance performance and portability as great as competitors - or even its 14" counterpart. There's no justification
I agree. An increase was expected… maybe a couple hundred. But $700 more in one single year? That is a massive increase and totally unjustified. I guarantee their laptop sales will tank for 2022. Then in 2023 they will lower them back down a bit to improve sales. I would pay $3,000 for this laptop but not $4,000. That is a car.
I, for one, really appreciate what Razer is doing here. You see, a laptop is much more than just performance at any cost. It includes the design, portability, battery life, noise levels and the overall experience to use. I personally don't need a hotbox that cooks itself to 100ºC, sounds like a jet taking off and weights like a brick. I much rather have a computer with high binned components, tuned in such a way that it performs relatively well, is silent and well cooled. But yeah, I agree the price hike is terrible.
For how much that cost, I could upgrade my cpu. That includes, 12th gen cpu, ddr5 ram, plus a new cooler and yes a new motherboard. Razer is charging way to much plus not the best customer support... yikes. Though 2022 models come standard with a 2 year battery warranty
I am so glad I bought a full option 2021 Blade Advanced last year when it launched after saving up for a while. The reason I am happy is because they dropped the OLED screen option on the 2022 models so I now own a collectible.
@@RadaSmada Same. The only upgrade path for us is a high hertz OLED. We can't go back to peasant matte LED backlit displays with piss poor color and black and backlight bleed. Did you notice we have uniform lighting without a hint of backlight bleed on the corners since the pixels themselves light up?
The QHD 240Hz RTX 3080 ti model costs £4099.99 in the UK... That's more than double what I paid for my Legion 7 R7 + 3080. These 3080 ti laptops make zero sense to me unless you have more money than sense.
@@sva9629 i have bad experience with razer product razer elektra V2 headset scratched my ear in just few weeks of use and had software issues razer kraken pro V2 was best product i had till windows update completely destroyed it and razer discontinued the software and said something like lmoa XD we cant help good luck and recently got viper mini scroll wheel jumping defect seem its common issue with viper mini models come on ffs they should either fix their products or fully test before release but dont worry razer is not the only trashy company trust GXT has 9/10 defect rate razer 7/10 rate steelseries arctis 3 has the worst soundtage in headset i ever used currently use hyperX cloud alpha lenovo legion laptop y520 keyboard broke due to extreme use the D button stuck but yet again i used this laptop since early 2017 so its already showing its age the intel 7th gen aged like milk even an i3 desktop beats it easily after 8 cores became standard as for the keyboard its membrane it broke cause hair dust and other particle gets in the gaps forcing to clean it with a chance to damage the key no wonder why people prefer mechanical im lucky to have it my previous PC was a combination of salvaged laptop parts and some desktop it bluescreened minimum once a day wacom intuos pro drawing tablet im lucky it works flawlessly despite being a terrible artist xD if you seen what i can draw it would blow your mind but not mine not one tiny bit
Most reviews' battery tests are for comparison purposes and not true to real usage. This is one of those channels. If you want realistic laptop battery life measurement, refer to - Ultrabookreview, Dave2D and Just Josh.
This is where a single vendor has been a general misstep for companies for a while and a perfect example. By only using Intel with the exception of last years Razer 14, they got stuck with a situation where their goals don't match what their primary partner is supplying. Alderlake is the perf king this gen. But while they have been pushing for that perf crown. AMD has been designing their cores for huge core counts under limited power per core settings and their apu's to sip power. To the Point that AMD's laptop silicon tops out at about 45-50w, itll take more power, but its clocks won't go up. What this means is sure in a unlimited setting Alderlake might be better, in a manageable power level in a normal size chassis, its probably better. But it loses a lot in systems like this, you have heavy battery hit and marginal preloads benefits. If they had been designing these systems for both systems. They have the option to offer this system with AMD CPU and get better portability results and better gaming perf.
Great and detailed review. I was considering ordering the 2022 model equipped with 4K display but after watching your review i will invest my hard-earned money into something else. Thanks a lot
With the lack of GSync, I'd probably go for the 240Hz or 360Hz panels, as I can still notice when I'm above the Gsync range of my 165Hz monitor (I limit the FPS most of the time).
I don't get the consternation about the performance. Your own benchmarks show the new Blade 15 consistently outperforming the 120W Strix G15, trading blows with the 150W Legion 7i, especially at 1440p, and staying within a stone's throw of the 150W Raider. That's impressive for a system with a 90W GPU.
Do you think these would be great for video editing and general content creation, as well as game development (which is why I’m thinking this over the newer MacBooks)?
I'm one of the lucky guys who call the Razer Blade 15 2022 his own. As an engineer, I got to admit, Razer did an amazing job this time. I put liquid metal on top of the gpu/cpu and managed to reduce the temps up to 15 degrees less! I also installed a FireCuda 530 plus the stock M.2 SSD to have some more storage. Attention, the FireCuda 530 (double-sided) does not fit in the Razer Blade 15 2022 and needs some custom mounting. The noise level is also quite comfortable and in production you rarely notice it even under heavier load. Battery life is almost not existing if on 240Hz refresh! I have the 12800H + 3080 TI. I don't recommend the 12900H(K), 4K model! Also, get a cooling pad to help prevent battery bloat and check the battery regularly just like the breaks of your car!
If you want to compare battery life across devices with different panels, you could also test it with the panels off, maybe connected to an external display.
@hardwareCanucks this laptop with QHD+ 144hz, 3080Ti,32GB and 1TB is on sale for 1900CAD, as you may recall this SKU used to be 4500CAD not too long ago. Would you recommend the SKU I mentioned for 1900CAD? I mean I can't find a decent 4060 for the same money. I noticed in your benchmarks it was between full fledged 3070 and 3080 variants, so it is somewhere around 4070 performance. Thoughts?
While it seems pretty sweet, I picked up an ex display RTX 3080 Zephyrus G15 for £1800 which consistently runs the 3080 at 100W on turbo, while the base 3060 model Blade costs £2800 in the UK. I'm pretty happy with my decision.
A software engineer just sold me his for $1300 on marketplace and it came with an extra 2tb Samsung 980 pro. It’s obviously last years model but this thing it’s nuts for the price I paid for it. I absolutely love it so far.
Thanks for the benchmarks! This clearly shows that the top tier version is not worth the value even tho it looks good on paper. Going for the i7 12800h in combination with 3070ti saving 1k and getting similar performance results.
The official hardware specs on the laptop you reviewed state 95W performance and since it has GPU boost it can boost up to 110w. was this a setup error that you maxed out at 80w, and thus suffered performance hits, or are razers specs incorrect?
I just put my old 13 inch razer blade on the shelf and picked ut the blade 15 3070ti. Can i ask how you got 7 hours, it dranis the battery super fast just surfing. I bought it since i do mainly daily tasks at it like talking to clients, office etc but also a fair amount of photoshop. I was hoping for atleast some battery time but now even with screen at 60% and only internal grafics i cant get much more than 2 hours. I still have the option of retuning it but i would much rather make it work. any advice would be greatly aprechiated.
Hey there, so how channels like HC do battery tests don't reflect actual real life battery drain. It's just for comparison between different devices they benchmark! However, I myself have owned a blade 15, I was able to get about 2hrs-3hrs of battery life by dropping to the lowest brightness option,rgb off, battery saver on and 60hz. Im now running the alienware x17 r1, I have a 4k 120hz panel but I crank it down to 1440p or 1080p when unplugged to extend the battery life a bit. I turn the rgb off, quiet mode, battery saver, 1080p/1440p, 120hz, brightness on about 50% and I get about 3hrs - 3.5hrs. Intel gaming devices have horrible battery life, all generations of them. Only AMD and Mac have incredible battery life, it's something you'll have to get used to, at least for the near future! Hope this helped!
I have the Razer Blade 15 (Late 2020) model. I don't remember if it was advanced or base. I upgraded my ram and my ssd and added a 2nd ssd. Yesterday I tried to pull the fans out before noticing the replacement ones I ordered were the wrong ones. When I put it back together the speakers had no sound just went tick on the right speaker. tick tick tick... I was devastated until I realized one of the fan screws pinched the speaker wire and shorted it out. I was able to fix it with electrical tape and now it works again but the fans still run faster then the flash when hes time traveling because the fans are somewhat dirty still. I got 98% of the dirt out but its a bit sticky :( So now I am looking at getting a new one sometime this year and love seeing videos on the newer models. Mine is still using a 1660 TI and thats not that great anymore lol Cant wait to get a better one its been 4 years I have been using this thing and its def taken a beating.
Would you recommend the i7 - 12800H RTX 3070 Ti version for someone that mostly edits videos alongside general productivity work (writing for my business etc..)? I do have aspirations for doing some game development and 3D work too. Basically trying to decide between this and the MacBook m1 max (which arguably would be worse for game dev and 3D), but would rock for general productivity (mostly due to battery life) and video editing (because of the encoders/decoders)
Great video. I have to ask...What is the deskmat we see in every video of yours? You know the blueprint "workmat" @ 07:00 . Where can I get one of those, please?
So two quick questions, I thought I read somewhere that this model can support up to 4 TB in the M.2 SSD. Does anyone have any info regarding that? Second question, an maybe Hardware Canucks can answer this, does that cover plate prevent the second M.2 SSD from fitting in when installed? I have heard on other videos that the 2021 model had this issue.
Even though I can afford it there is no way I would pay for this outdated design that kind of money, I’d go with msi or asus instead with better specs and features
im planning to buy razor blade 15 but unsure whether i would benefit from buying intel i9 or intel i7 as i heard you get the same performance due to the limited voltage of this laptop?
Thank you for the video, I really though I was going to get the 3080ti i9 version but after seeing the gaming and editing benchmarks my opinion has been heavily swayed to stay away from the 3080ti. Considering they want like an extra $1000, I have to say that it's really not worth it, even if you have the spare money, what's the point lol.
Watching this on my 2019 Razer 15 Base Model w/ 1060 Max Q. Not a workhorse like my PC but did well for college and gaming (R6, EFT, Halo Infinite). Not a fan of price but Razer has stepped up their quality.
I'm looking to upgrade my 2018 Razer Blade 15 - I really like the slim no-frill aesthetic of these machines but it's hard to stick with the Razer brand after experiencing serious hardware issues on an annual basis since first buying.
I'm sure some of you would like to own a Razer laptop but doesn't care about the high spec. Luckily for me I brought my Razer blade 15 in early 2021 which cost me ~$1300. Well if you were to buy a blade now the minimum cost is like $1499 ish and is a 13.3 inch. But my model is out of stock now and I think they only produce a limited number of this model. My model is a Intel 10750 ,16gb 2933 ,gtx 1660ti (kinda shit in 2022) and also since this model is cheap it only has 256gb and a intel wifi 5 card I think? Tho that is some feature I wish for such as per key rgb and control lighting for the razer logo. I actually use this laptop for normal usage such as watching RUclips and zoom call. That's it no games. But I really love using my blade because of the aesthetic. I recommend anyone who wants to purchase a blade 15, go for the lower spec (such as the ram and disk space) then you can upgrade it later for cheaper.
Feeling kinda justified for buying the 2021 Asus G15 last month. 5900HS + RTX 3070 for $1500. Ok, this gen of CPUs are pretty fast, but god damn are they charging for it.
Hi. Great review and exactly what I was looking for in terms of breakdown. Do you happen to know if this model or the 3070Ti Model have a MUX switch in them?
i am happy i got one of the last reduced price RTX3080 2021 15" blade, on amazon, it will still rules for the next years, because the actual 3080 ti prices are just insane... and the blade 14 is still a pass for me for the poor RAM 16gig it features.
@@Weird_Quests i use my 15" blade rtx3080 for 3D modelling on solidworks and game, and the rxt3080 is clearly more powerful than my 15" rtx3070 11800h. I like the 2021 models because they feature a second SSD slot and i currently run 4 G SSD on my 15" rtx3080, i could replace at anytime, contrary to a macbook 16" where everything is fixed and no option for any upgrade or repair option. I have two 2021 15" blades and i will surely use them for the next 5 years, no need for more regarding to the avalible power under their black hood ;-) [ and YES they are sometimes warm as a chevy block engine !]
@@Weird_Quests indeed there is no fantastic gap in FPS for games between 3070 and 3080, but if you make some heavy thermodinamical 3D works, you will see the power of the mobile RTX3080, and the new 2022 ones do not feature a second slot for SSD.the 3080Ti 2022 are monster of power, BUT are insanely priced, i will never pay that money and would buy a CNC milling machine drived by my blade 15" ;-) A mac would never be able to drive that kind of stuff,even if it's a beast for editing. And i really like the built quality of Razer. Buy one before they are only offered by scalpers on ebay....
I'm really disappointed in the battery life of this device. Thought the hybrid architecture of the 12th gen Intel CPUs would cause its battery life to improve...BUT NOPE
You thought it wrong like most people who confuse Intel's hybrid architecture with ARM's big-little architecture. In x86, that's simply not possible yet. Intel simply needed more number of cores and that was not reachable by just using power hungry but powerful "P" cores and added some "E" cores to have the higher thread count. And there's no implementation where OS can distinguish a light thread and assign it to E cores for efficiency. It's actually exactly opposite as Thread manager always try to assign works to available P cores 1st and then only goes to E cores.
There is a YT collective doing a lot of sponsored reviews for Intel to convince the community that they are now challenging the M1 from 2020 (M2 coming soon), yet it is mostly smoke and mirrors; the extra performance is from higher wattage and battery life remains the weak link. Even Razer have dumped OLED to try and beef up battery life. Of course, for gaming Apple Silicon is not really viable yet, so we will see what AMD does?
@@andyH_England if you see the new Ryzen 9 6900HS reviews available from 2 or 3 reputed youtubers, you'll see that it's not more than 15% slower while giving far superior thermals and more than twice the battery life and very negligible performance drop in battery, and that enables a laptop to be used as a laptop, not like a portable desktop which only shines when plugged in, placed under huge chassis and expensive cooling solution. In battery Alder Lake performance is similar to last gen 5900HX at battery. 4 hours battery life in RUclips playback is just hillarious IMO. Looks like we're going one step backward with Intel's point of view by sacrificing everything over 10 to 15% performance at best cases.
I'm almost certain the price increase is mostly tied to the memory, with a smaller portion of the increase tied to the GPU market trends, not chip shortages (relative to last year)
I’m someone who wants good performance in a laptop while not sucking back tons of power. These windows laptops are good on performance but not on the power efficiency side. I went with the new MacBook Pro that matches the last years config in price . I get the M1 pro with 10 cpu cores and 16 gpu cores. The good thing is I get full performance on battery which is a big win for me. Windows laptops need to get more efficient before I consider one (2500 usd for my MacBook Pro) the 3080 ti config for 4k is ridiculous
@@blue4059 I was being facetious about 8.0, i was more commenting that if the laptop costs $4000, it have better come with everything i need integrated into it. Its not 1995 any more: when only a few thousand laptops are sold a year. this speciffic laptop might see more sales than all laptops sold in '95, maybe excluding Japan. Heck in 95 there were so many differnet IBM-PC/clone variants being sold, but the total sales only added up to 35 million across ALL makes, including the very uncommon laptops, when prices like this were common for laptops
For that price, I'll get the MBP M1Max any day of the week. This thing has no niceties of the MBP as well. No fingerprint scanner? Garbage webcam? Sub-par speakers? Barely enough battery life? And let's not forget, broken SW means that Razer's quality control still sucks balls...
How about the Asus ROG M16, and the new G14 has 500 nits, where did you get 335 from? Other reviews of these laptops has been messured close to specification
Nice video. But would be great if we could actually hear fan noise comparison. Db doesn’t help much to most of the people. Noise if one of the most important when if comes to performance.
"This is common sense. The more you spend, the more you save. Thats right-the more you spend, the more you save. This is not a complicated talk. The more you spend, the more you save." - A man in a black leather jacket
what are the colour gamuts in (srgb%, adobe rgb%, DCI P3%) for each of the displays options (UHD, FHD, 4K, OLED) for the razer blade 15 rtx 3080ti variant.
The biggest drawback for me currently is the thermals coming off the CPU, thing throttles down because it is constantly peaking at 100 C. I was afraid I got a bad application of thermal paste, but I have heard all the CPUs on the 15 and 17 run hot. Can anyone else confirm this?
Unfortunately if you look at the competitors the pricing is going to be similar. Alienware x15 r2 top model about the same, more disk though. Chalk up price increases to markets and supply chain issues, it's not just Razer.
I eventually want to buy a new Razer laptop, but my Razer Blade Stealth Ultrabook 13 (2018) still works good as new despite the battery life. It's disappointing to see that their prices double and triple with each upgrade.
At last a full review of the 2022 razer. Something tells me to wait to see if razer bring out a PRO model mid year like they normally do. I've wanted a razer for so long now but bought the X17 i9 last year, isn't worth the upgrade just yet.
The one problem on a razers laptop, you cant get any replacement parts on the web, it isnt common and no ones selling... If you do see one its came from teardown one that has defective some the parts and others can be salvageble
THANK YOU for the Tip with the THX Spacial Setup turned off.. i got the 2021 Model for almost a Year now and didn't change it until now - i just thought the speakers are that bad
The prices are even more crazy in Europe, I live in France and for the spec that you are testing you would have to pay 4799€ which is 5402$ currently, this is mindblowing to me.
Ridiculous!
Yeah man, it´s not worthy at all!! I´m waiting for Hp Omen 15 2022 Version😇
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Gotta pay for that ''free'' healthcare somehow.
@@basshead. you think razer is funding healthcare? 🤨
Razer: you could just light money on fire, but overpay us instead. Also Razer: Pay us double what the hardware is worth because "build quality."
Cause there is "POTENTIAL MARKET" for everyone, people have too much money to spend, don't know what to do with it, end up spending on things they don't need.
reminds me of what Apple used to do
I actually got my razor laptop for much cheaper then other equivalents so idk did I get ripped off?
Never understood the comments about Razer laptop's "good build quality". I've had nothing but QC issues that was replaced only to have motherboard die out 6 months later on my first and last Razer Blade. The Aluminum chassis is also nowhere near durable as Magnesium Alloy + Carbon material used on premium laptops from other brands.
@@blue4059 Had the exact same experience with my 2017 Blade 14. First and last razer laptop I've owned. The build quality at first glance and by reviewers leaves a good impression, but their QC and reliability issues are pretty legendary at this point. That along with terrible customer support.
Cool, now Razer has a 4k feature in terms of screen resolution and in price
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@@n.m.e5787 yeah I reported it too
$1 per column of pixels. Duh.
@@aaronruiz816 which is on brand for them
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For that price I can build a better desktop and hire someone to carry it around for me
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For most ppl thats the smart move. For ppl like me, my laptop is an extension of me, I need it around constantly. Especially when travelling.
Yes, but razor and it’s design is really advanced just like Mac. But they are not the best
As a previous Razer Blade owner, I topped mine out with the highest of all options for around $2500. This one topping out over $4K is ridiculous. I will definitely be waiting for a big discount or looking for a near competitor next time.
Yeah I'd be waiting for a discount code or something, it's getting out of hand.
The Lenovo Legion lineup might be a near competitor you can look into. I bought a Legion 7 AMD RTX 3080 for $2300 from Lenovo's online website. Those are pretty high specs for half the price of what Razer is asking you to pay.
@@SeemsLogical I appreciate the input, but I don't really see it as a competitor or viable alternative. The Lenovo has a very "gamery" aesthetic compared to the Razer Blade and its build quality isn't even in the same ballpark. You pay more for the Razer Blade for its impeccable build quality with aluminum unibody design, per-key RGB (first in the industry), better screens, better trackpad, vapor chamber cooling, etc. Plus, the Legion's just plain bigger, especially with the vents in the back. And the power brick is massive compared to the Blade's small one. The reason the Legion and others are so much cheaper is because they cut corners on build quality and components to maximize the CPU and GPU. And that's fine if those are the most important thing for you and you usually use the laptop at a desk on an external monitor. But as a complete package, as an actual laptop, it's not a competition. I used my Blade all around the world. Took it to Europe, Asia, Egypt, even on safari in Africa. I could count on it and it was the perfect portable package.
@@SeemsLogical i bought a Lenovo Legion 7 too for $2000
@@genlongtsang1093 I got last year's model back in June. I could have waited a bit longer for the 2022 model to release in August but at the time it was unknown when it would release and I didn't need the newest version.
Mine is the AMD version with 3080, which version did you get?
Disappointing to see to price increase this much despite the performance being so underwhelming. I love the razer design, build quality, and performance but at the price point of $3700 - $4000 I don't see any justification for the average power user when there's already a lot of great options that are still sleek and allow for more thermal/power headroom.
I'm looking forward to seeing this compete again the ROG Zephyrus M16 with the same 3080Ti spec since the GPU in the Zephyrus has a little bit higher TDP.
It also has a larger batterh
I think the "performance/cost" analysis is a fair assessment for desktops, but when we're talking about laptops, you have to factor in everything. I don't see the issue with paying money that goes towards something other than performance.
@@Nathan-tg4gu but it doesn't win the portable category either - and it doesn't the balance performance and portability as great as competitors - or even its 14" counterpart. There's no justification
@@theinktician So you've added one dimension to your analysis: portability. There's still many more...
I agree. An increase was expected… maybe a couple hundred. But $700 more in one single year? That is a massive increase and totally unjustified. I guarantee their laptop sales will tank for 2022. Then in 2023 they will lower them back down a bit to improve sales. I would pay $3,000 for this laptop but not $4,000. That is a car.
I, for one, really appreciate what Razer is doing here.
You see, a laptop is much more than just performance at any cost. It includes the design, portability, battery life, noise levels and the overall experience to use.
I personally don't need a hotbox that cooks itself to 100ºC, sounds like a jet taking off and weights like a brick. I much rather have a computer with high binned components, tuned in such a way that it performs relatively well, is silent and well cooled.
But yeah, I agree the price hike is terrible.
For how much that cost, I could upgrade my cpu. That includes, 12th gen cpu, ddr5 ram, plus a new cooler and yes a new motherboard. Razer is charging way to much plus not the best customer support... yikes. Though 2022 models come standard with a 2 year battery warranty
While razors mouses are fantastic and their headsets are alright, yeah these laptops are stupidly priced
@random viewer lmao ok
I am so glad I bought a full option 2021 Blade Advanced last year when it launched after saving up for a while. The reason I am happy is because they dropped the OLED screen option on the 2022 models so I now own a collectible.
wait how do know know? bro hi
@@DrayAntonio You can look it up. Google Razer dropped oled option.
@@cemsengul16is probably going to be back in a few years
I love my OLED razer, I'm hoping by the time I need to upgrade they'll drop one with a 120hz oled
@@RadaSmada Same. The only upgrade path for us is a high hertz OLED. We can't go back to peasant matte LED backlit displays with piss poor color and black and backlight bleed. Did you notice we have uniform lighting without a hint of backlight bleed on the corners since the pixels themselves light up?
The QHD 240Hz RTX 3080 ti model costs £4099.99 in the UK... That's more than double what I paid for my Legion 7 R7 + 3080. These 3080 ti laptops make zero sense to me unless you have more money than sense.
Ridiculous prices, totally not worth it!
Affording Razer is my only life goal after watching it's price no cap
You might want to reevaluate your life's priorities, friend
2999$ for a 3070ti razer
id rather wait for a lenovo legion 4080ti for that price
@@Nogardtist I buy Razer build quality, it’s Quality>Performance for me. I respect your choice..... and your money 💵
@@sva9629 i have bad experience with razer product
razer elektra V2 headset scratched my ear in just few weeks of use and had software issues
razer kraken pro V2 was best product i had till windows update completely destroyed it and razer discontinued the software and said something like lmoa XD we cant help good luck
and recently got viper mini scroll wheel jumping defect seem its common issue with viper mini models come on ffs they should either fix their products or fully test before release
but dont worry razer is not the only trashy company trust GXT has 9/10 defect rate
razer 7/10 rate
steelseries arctis 3 has the worst soundtage in headset i ever used
currently use hyperX cloud alpha
lenovo legion laptop y520 keyboard broke due to extreme use the D button stuck but yet again i used this laptop since early 2017
so its already showing its age
the intel 7th gen aged like milk even an i3 desktop beats it easily after 8 cores became standard
as for the keyboard its membrane it broke cause hair dust and other particle gets in the gaps forcing to clean it with a chance to damage the key
no wonder why people prefer mechanical
im lucky to have it my previous PC was a combination of salvaged laptop parts and some desktop it bluescreened minimum once a day
wacom intuos pro drawing tablet im lucky it works flawlessly despite being a terrible artist xD if you seen what i can draw it would blow your mind but not mine not one tiny bit
Razer has bad quality control, they have the most issue reported even not the most bought laptop.
I bought one of these but with a 4060 recently for only $1,200. That’s a steal!
No it isn’t
@ yes it is. The laptop I bought is currently going for over $2,000 on amazon. I bought it from Best Buy at 45% off. How is that a bad deal?
Also note for this type of battery test, It translates to 50% of real life usage. So no you wont get 7.5 hours, you will get 3.75
Yeah , this is so true lol
Most reviews' battery tests are for comparison purposes and not true to real usage. This is one of those channels.
If you want realistic laptop battery life measurement, refer to - Ultrabookreview, Dave2D and Just Josh.
really that little battery life? Damn I want to see how long the new razer 14 will last. I want a long lasting battery on a gaming labtop.
@@theholt2ic219 yea unfortunately its pathetic. If you want any mobility you just have to go with ryzen or apple
This is where a single vendor has been a general misstep for companies for a while and a perfect example. By only using Intel with the exception of last years Razer 14, they got stuck with a situation where their goals don't match what their primary partner is supplying. Alderlake is the perf king this gen. But while they have been pushing for that perf crown. AMD has been designing their cores for huge core counts under limited power per core settings and their apu's to sip power. To the Point that AMD's laptop silicon tops out at about 45-50w, itll take more power, but its clocks won't go up. What this means is sure in a unlimited setting Alderlake might be better, in a manageable power level in a normal size chassis, its probably better. But it loses a lot in systems like this, you have heavy battery hit and marginal preloads benefits.
If they had been designing these systems for both systems. They have the option to offer this system with AMD CPU and get better portability results and better gaming perf.
Great and detailed review. I was considering ordering the 2022 model equipped with 4K display but after watching your review i will invest my hard-earned money into something else. Thanks a lot
With the lack of GSync, I'd probably go for the 240Hz or 360Hz panels, as I can still notice when I'm above the Gsync range of my 165Hz monitor (I limit the FPS most of the time).
Exceptional review, very well-made!
Hmmm I think I saw you somewhere else
it costs USD 1,299 in my country... is it worth it to get?
4K for 4K
I don't get the consternation about the performance. Your own benchmarks show the new Blade 15 consistently outperforming the 120W Strix G15, trading blows with the 150W Legion 7i, especially at 1440p, and staying within a stone's throw of the 150W Raider. That's impressive for a system with a 90W GPU.
Hey there, Could we get a Razer 17 blade 3080ti review as well maybe? It could be a good competitor to the ge76 with the better tdp and cooling
just uploaded a side by side with RBP17i9 3080ti vs 21 RBP17 i9 3080
Do you think these would be great for video editing and general content creation, as well as game development (which is why I’m thinking this over the newer MacBooks)?
My god, $2500 for the base 3060 model?!?
Glad to see that "Razer tax" is only getting higher as years go on.
Do they still break right after the warranty expires?
Weird cuz mines 5 years old and hasnt broken or really slowed down.
The angry minorities are the most vocal.
@@RevRyukin7 Straight up.
I'm one of the lucky guys who call the Razer Blade 15 2022 his own.
As an engineer, I got to admit, Razer did an amazing job this time.
I put liquid metal on top of the gpu/cpu and managed to reduce the temps up to 15 degrees less!
I also installed a FireCuda 530 plus the stock M.2 SSD to have some more storage.
Attention, the FireCuda 530 (double-sided) does not fit in the Razer Blade 15 2022 and needs some custom mounting.
The noise level is also quite comfortable and in production you rarely notice it even under heavier load.
Battery life is almost not existing if on 240Hz refresh!
I have the 12800H + 3080 TI. I don't recommend the 12900H(K), 4K model!
Also, get a cooling pad to help prevent battery bloat and check the battery regularly just like the breaks of your car!
Does the double-sided version of the FIreCuda offer extra storage? Or just faster?
@@Weird_Quests it's the 4TB version, the fastest with the best reliability and longevity. I recommend you watch some reviews as well.
>Sees price
>Leaves video
If you want to compare battery life across devices with different panels, you could also test it with the panels off, maybe connected to an external display.
@hardwareCanucks this laptop with QHD+ 144hz, 3080Ti,32GB and 1TB is on sale for 1900CAD, as you may recall this SKU used to be 4500CAD not too long ago. Would you recommend the SKU I mentioned for 1900CAD? I mean I can't find a decent 4060 for the same money. I noticed in your benchmarks it was between full fledged 3070 and 3080 variants, so it is somewhere around 4070 performance. Thoughts?
While it seems pretty sweet, I picked up an ex display RTX 3080 Zephyrus G15 for £1800 which consistently runs the 3080 at 100W on turbo, while the base 3060 model Blade costs £2800 in the UK. I'm pretty happy with my decision.
I just got this review’s model on ebay for £1600 brand new. G15 Rtx 3080 32gb ram laptops could be had in like new condition for £1350 in 2022.
Can you please review the new Alienware X14? That one got me really excited
A software engineer just sold me his for $1300 on marketplace and it came with an extra 2tb Samsung 980 pro. It’s obviously last years model but this thing it’s nuts for the price I paid for it. I absolutely love it so far.
Thanks for the benchmarks! This clearly shows that the top tier version is not worth the value even tho it looks good on paper. Going for the i7 12800h in combination with 3070ti saving 1k and getting similar performance results.
I just ordered mine same specs, what do you think?
The official hardware specs on the laptop you reviewed state 95W performance and since it has GPU boost it can boost up to 110w. was this a setup error that you maxed out at 80w, and thus suffered performance hits, or are razers specs incorrect?
I just put my old 13 inch razer blade on the shelf and picked ut the blade 15 3070ti. Can i ask how you got 7 hours, it dranis the battery super fast just surfing. I bought it since i do mainly daily tasks at it like talking to clients, office etc but also a fair amount of photoshop. I was hoping for atleast some battery time but now even with screen at 60% and only internal grafics i cant get much more than 2 hours. I still have the option of retuning it but i would much rather make it work.
any advice would be greatly aprechiated.
Hey there, so how channels like HC do battery tests don't reflect actual real life battery drain. It's just for comparison between different devices they benchmark! However, I myself have owned a blade 15, I was able to get about 2hrs-3hrs of battery life by dropping to the lowest brightness option,rgb off, battery saver on and 60hz. Im now running the alienware x17 r1, I have a 4k 120hz panel but I crank it down to 1440p or 1080p when unplugged to extend the battery life a bit. I turn the rgb off, quiet mode, battery saver, 1080p/1440p, 120hz, brightness on about 50% and I get about 3hrs - 3.5hrs. Intel gaming devices have horrible battery life, all generations of them. Only AMD and Mac have incredible battery life, it's something you'll have to get used to, at least for the near future! Hope this helped!
I'm here with a early 2019 advanced 2080MQ still going strong. Disappointed that the price has increased so much.
Yeah I have the 2070 MQ same year and it's been brilliant - still working like the first day... The prices are getting ridiculous now agreed ...
I have the Razer Blade 15 (Late 2020) model. I don't remember if it was advanced or base. I upgraded my ram and my ssd and added a 2nd ssd. Yesterday I tried to pull the fans out before noticing the replacement ones I ordered were the wrong ones. When I put it back together the speakers had no sound just went tick on the right speaker. tick tick tick... I was devastated until I realized one of the fan screws pinched the speaker wire and shorted it out. I was able to fix it with electrical tape and now it works again but the fans still run faster then the flash when hes time traveling because the fans are somewhat dirty still. I got 98% of the dirt out but its a bit sticky :(
So now I am looking at getting a new one sometime this year and love seeing videos on the newer models. Mine is still using a 1660 TI and thats not that great anymore lol Cant wait to get a better one its been 4 years I have been using this thing and its def taken a beating.
Would you recommend the i7 - 12800H RTX 3070 Ti version for someone that mostly edits videos alongside general productivity work (writing for my business etc..)? I do have aspirations for doing some game development and 3D work too.
Basically trying to decide between this and the MacBook m1 max (which arguably would be worse for game dev and 3D), but would rock for general productivity (mostly due to battery life) and video editing (because of the encoders/decoders)
M1 mac is better
Thank you so much for the Video.
If possible Id love to see one regarding the 17 inch one with the same specs regarding CPU GPU and Display.
Great video. I have to ask...What is the deskmat we see in every video of yours? You know the blueprint "workmat" @ 07:00 . Where can I get one of those, please?
So two quick questions, I thought I read somewhere that this model can support up to 4 TB in the M.2 SSD. Does anyone have any info regarding that? Second question, an maybe Hardware Canucks can answer this, does that cover plate prevent the second M.2 SSD from fitting in when installed? I have heard on other videos that the 2021 model had this issue.
I put in a wd black 2tb, works, single side ssd.
am i the only one who absolutely loves these laptop reviews despite having little knowledge about laptop specs.
Even though I can afford it there is no way I would pay for this outdated design that kind of money, I’d go with msi or asus instead with better specs and features
I would love to see more affordable laptops. I don't think majority of people would get 4k dollars laptop.
im planning to buy razor blade 15 but unsure whether i would benefit from buying intel i9 or intel i7 as i heard you get the same performance due to the limited voltage of this laptop?
Thank you for the video, I really though I was going to get the 3080ti i9 version but after seeing the gaming and editing benchmarks my opinion has been heavily swayed to stay away from the 3080ti. Considering they want like an extra $1000, I have to say that it's really not worth it, even if you have the spare money, what's the point lol.
Watching this on my 2019 Razer 15 Base Model w/ 1060 Max Q. Not a workhorse like my PC but did well for college and gaming (R6, EFT, Halo Infinite). Not a fan of price but Razer has stepped up their quality.
I'm looking to upgrade my 2018 Razer Blade 15 - I really like the slim no-frill aesthetic of these machines but it's hard to stick with the Razer brand after experiencing serious hardware issues on an annual basis since first buying.
This is on sale vs a 2023 variant with a 4060.. what would you choose?
Great reviews, I have the 2021 Blade 14 with the 3080 and was looking to upgrade but looks like I'll be keeping what I have longer.
Can we charge the laptop through USB-C for light use on the go ?
Thank you for such an honest review. You guys are the best. You love the products and yet you get disappointed which I totally understand
I'm sure some of you would like to own a Razer laptop but doesn't care about the high spec. Luckily for me I brought my Razer blade 15 in early 2021 which cost me ~$1300. Well if you were to buy a blade now the minimum cost is like $1499 ish and is a 13.3 inch. But my model is out of stock now and I think they only produce a limited number of this model. My model is a Intel 10750 ,16gb 2933 ,gtx 1660ti (kinda shit in 2022) and also since this model is cheap it only has 256gb and a intel wifi 5 card I think? Tho that is some feature I wish for such as per key rgb and control lighting for the razer logo. I actually use this laptop for normal usage such as watching RUclips and zoom call. That's it no games. But I really love using my blade because of the aesthetic. I recommend anyone who wants to purchase a blade 15, go for the lower spec (such as the ram and disk space) then you can upgrade it later for cheaper.
if the temps are cool can we just crank up the watts on it to gain huge performance?
Anyway to overclock the GPU to push it to at least 100w?
Feeling kinda justified for buying the 2021 Asus G15 last month. 5900HS + RTX 3070 for $1500. Ok, this gen of CPUs are pretty fast, but god damn are they charging for it.
Hi. Great review and exactly what I was looking for in terms of breakdown. Do you happen to know if this model or the 3070Ti Model have a MUX switch in them?
Razor did say prices were going to go up a little while back
So the power cord is reversible so it doesn’t cover the USB port right?
i am happy i got one of the last reduced price RTX3080 2021 15" blade, on amazon, it will still rules for the next years, because the actual 3080 ti prices are just insane... and the blade 14 is still a pass for me for the poor RAM 16gig it features.
Would the 2021 versions be good for video editing and general productivity?
I would love to get the 14 but yeah it seems 16gb ram is the max for it
@@Weird_Quests i use my 15" blade rtx3080 for 3D modelling on solidworks and game, and the rxt3080 is clearly more powerful than my 15" rtx3070 11800h. I like the 2021 models because they feature a second SSD slot and i currently run 4 G SSD on my 15" rtx3080, i could replace at anytime, contrary to a macbook 16" where everything is fixed and no option for any upgrade or repair option. I have two 2021 15" blades and i will surely use them for the next 5 years, no need for more regarding to the avalible power under their black hood ;-) [ and YES they are sometimes warm as a chevy block engine !]
@@brianmclesggy makes me think about getting one as they are fantastic deals while the 2022 ones are coming out.
@@Weird_Quests indeed there is no fantastic gap in FPS for games between 3070 and 3080, but if you make some heavy thermodinamical 3D works, you will see the power of the mobile RTX3080, and the new 2022 ones do not feature a second slot for SSD.the 3080Ti 2022 are monster of power, BUT are insanely priced, i will never pay that money and would buy a CNC milling machine drived by my blade 15" ;-) A mac would never be able to drive that kind of stuff,even if it's a beast for editing. And i really like the built quality of Razer. Buy one before they are only offered by scalpers on ebay....
I'm really disappointed in the battery life of this device. Thought the hybrid architecture of the 12th gen Intel CPUs would cause its battery life to improve...BUT NOPE
You thought it wrong like most people who confuse Intel's hybrid architecture with ARM's big-little architecture. In x86, that's simply not possible yet. Intel simply needed more number of cores and that was not reachable by just using power hungry but powerful "P" cores and added some "E" cores to have the higher thread count. And there's no implementation where OS can distinguish a light thread and assign it to E cores for efficiency. It's actually exactly opposite as Thread manager always try to assign works to available P cores 1st and then only goes to E cores.
There is a YT collective doing a lot of sponsored reviews for Intel to convince the community that they are now challenging the M1 from 2020 (M2 coming soon), yet it is mostly smoke and mirrors; the extra performance is from higher wattage and battery life remains the weak link. Even Razer have dumped OLED to try and beef up battery life. Of course, for gaming Apple Silicon is not really viable yet, so we will see what AMD does?
@@andyH_England if you see the new Ryzen 9 6900HS reviews available from 2 or 3 reputed youtubers, you'll see that it's not more than 15% slower while giving far superior thermals and more than twice the battery life and very negligible performance drop in battery, and that enables a laptop to be used as a laptop, not like a portable desktop which only shines when plugged in, placed under huge chassis and expensive cooling solution. In battery Alder Lake performance is similar to last gen 5900HX at battery. 4 hours battery life in RUclips playback is just hillarious IMO. Looks like we're going one step backward with Intel's point of view by sacrificing everything over 10 to 15% performance at best cases.
I'm almost certain the price increase is mostly tied to the memory, with a smaller portion of the increase tied to the GPU market trends, not chip shortages (relative to last year)
Found this open box under $1700 for 32GB as well. I hope it holds up.
FYI, I had a 2019 blade 15 advanced model, fan noise + heating issue was crazy since day 1.
How can you make sure which one is the thunderbolt 4 ? Is there any physical way ? Has a different color ? Thanks !
What about finger prints? Is it better or still ugly 2 seconds after you touch it?
Such useful benchmarks. TY!
how do you get 10 hours battery life on the 2021 RB15? i can barely eek out 5 hours and this is with alot of battery life optimization done.
9:37 any one know where I can find that wallpaper?
what about the finger prints? is it still finger print prone?
I get why you mention it but the battery life "issue" literally couldn't matter less to me. Wherever I am I always plug my laptop in. Not a big deal.
I’m someone who wants good performance in a laptop while not sucking back tons of power. These windows laptops are good on performance but not on the power efficiency side. I went with the new MacBook Pro that matches the last years config in price . I get the M1 pro with 10 cpu cores and 16 gpu cores. The good thing is I get full performance on battery which is a big win for me. Windows laptops need to get more efficient before I consider one (2500 usd for my MacBook Pro) the 3080 ti config for 4k is ridiculous
Your forgot to include the trademark (™️) sign after eachtime you wrote MacBook Pro. We gotta be more careful with intellectual property misuse.
@@feto123feto123 go away
At $4000, i'd expect a UHS-II slot, an XQD slot, and CF-Express type A, B, and C slots
The latest card reader available on workstation laptops from other brands like Asus, Lenovo and HP is Full-Sized SD Express 7.0.
@@blue4059 but not 8.0? Dang, i was looking for 4GB/s imports
@@denvera1g1 8.0 cards and readers don't exist yet, we're now just getting 7.0
@@blue4059 I was being facetious about 8.0, i was more commenting that if the laptop costs $4000, it have better come with everything i need integrated into it. Its not 1995 any more: when only a few thousand laptops are sold a year. this speciffic laptop might see more sales than all laptops sold in '95, maybe excluding Japan. Heck in 95 there were so many differnet IBM-PC/clone variants being sold, but the total sales only added up to 35 million across ALL makes, including the very uncommon laptops, when prices like this were common for laptops
@1:56, you can definitely point the dinner at Razer. Just compare those prices to Asus M16 2021 vs 2022. Razer's price jumps are absurd.
The speakers sound the same as last year? So they still sound like trash?
For that price, I'll get the MBP M1Max any day of the week. This thing has no niceties of the MBP as well. No fingerprint scanner? Garbage webcam? Sub-par speakers? Barely enough battery life? And let's not forget, broken SW means that Razer's quality control still sucks balls...
How about the Asus ROG M16, and the new G14 has 500 nits, where did you get 335 from? Other reviews of these laptops has been messured close to specification
Nice video.
But would be great if we could actually hear fan noise comparison. Db doesn’t help much to most of the people. Noise if one of the most important when if comes to performance.
The 15 goes for 1899 now I want to do video editing and some light animation is it worth it ??
Does the 1080p version cost $1080?
1:52 Yeah, I've heard that a lot over the years
Do both type c ports support 100w pd charging?
I note you do not review Alenware laptops, i.e. the X15 / 17 R2? I think the last Alienware you revised was 3 years ago?
thank you for the video! Did you experience BSOD with retail bios and drivers?
I keep asking this...how is the speakers? Seriously with the price you should have the macbook pro 16 inch speaker quality....
I find your graph temp chart at 11:30 to be a lie. Thats with factory thermal paste? lol
What do you mean about the design? Isn’t apple doing the same thing with their laptop design which is the same almost each year with the box design
Please review the new MSI Z17 2022 creator laptop
"This is common sense.
The more you spend, the more you save.
Thats right-the more you spend, the more you save.
This is not a complicated talk.
The more you spend, the more you save."
- A man in a black leather jacket
please do a latencyMon test! takes a minute
what are the colour gamuts in (srgb%, adobe rgb%, DCI P3%) for each of the displays options (UHD, FHD, 4K, OLED) for the razer blade 15 rtx 3080ti variant.
I’m able to get this at 1200 USD right now here in Mexico, do you think it is a good option?
100%
The biggest drawback for me currently is the thermals coming off the CPU, thing throttles down because it is constantly peaking at 100 C. I was afraid I got a bad application of thermal paste, but I have heard all the CPUs on the 15 and 17 run hot. Can anyone else confirm this?
Unfortunately if you look at the competitors the pricing is going to be similar. Alienware x15 r2 top model about the same, more disk though. Chalk up price increases to markets and supply chain issues, it's not just Razer.
I eventually want to buy a new Razer laptop, but my Razer Blade Stealth Ultrabook 13 (2018) still works good as new despite the battery life. It's disappointing to see that their prices double and triple with each upgrade.
Don't waste money
At last a full review of the 2022 razer.
Something tells me to wait to see if razer bring out a PRO model mid year like they normally do. I've wanted a razer for so long now but bought the X17 i9 last year, isn't worth the upgrade just yet.
The one problem on a razers laptop, you cant get any replacement parts on the web, it isnt common and no ones selling... If you do see one its came from teardown one that has defective some the parts and others can be salvageble
would love to see comparing benchmark of the Alienware X17 R2 in there with MSI 76 ♥
Can you do a review on the Razer Blade 17 advanced max specification once you can get your hands on it?
THANK YOU for the Tip with the THX Spacial Setup turned off.. i got the 2021 Model for almost a Year now and didn't change it until now - i just thought the speakers are that bad