I start thinking that Nvidia is going to be some kind of Apple, overpriced - peace of shit. And for now we see only overprice. I hope they will make its stuff cost less, because right now they got a lot of good things and features(drivers and etc. as well), but i simply can't effort it without some trades with other life-important things. So games and powerful-PC stuff always got delay to later. Yet i wish to get something better for GPU(since everything else step by step is updated). And this is where i probably will switch to Intel, but i have some concerns about it.
@@brodriguez11000 Not so sure about that. AMD cards are the best when comparing performance to price if you don't care about RT. Plus the whole cpu debacle didnt help them. Intel isn't going to catch either one of them after giving AMD the cpu market. But at the end of the day, I hope they do good. It would benefit us consumers.
@@despairdx if they want to seriously disrupt and have a shot at their cards outselling the competition they'll pull a Sony move and cut into their margins this round to make $500-600 happen, which they definitely can. It'll be paying off for years to come.
I was an early adopter of the Acer Bi-Frost A770. I have had no issues except for when I was trying to overclock and induced instability. Currently waiting on the B7XX/B9XX cards to be released. With frame generation my games were triple digit fps with 3840x1080 widescreen. Another benefit is that Intel updates keep making these cards better. Have mostly played BG3 and Cyberpunk 2077. Side note - I had great luck with under-volting these cards to 169 - 185 volts. That is how I ended up with higher clocks.
NVidia is going the direction of car manufacturers. They're making bigger and bigger products with bigger and bigger prices. Eventually they'll be like car dealerships with cars sitting on the lot, because of they've become overpriced.
yeah, car manufacturers are making all their cars luxury cars with a high starting price and then they are wondering why they are not selling. because the average price of a new car is 45,000-55,000 dollars. I hope that Intel ARC does not go away anytime soon to bring the prices of both Nvidia and AMD down.
@@christophermullins7163nah if they don’t change they are definitely on their way out. When you can spend half the price and get everything you want they are going to lose value and shareholders are gonna be pissed
@@admiraljosephterix148 Given how much it should cost to develop a GPU from the scratch that can axtually compete with amd/nvidia, I'm sure that Intel would've not done it if they weren't planning to stay on this market for decade of two.
For a 12gb, 192 bit card, $250 feels like a steal. I'd argue this card not only undercuts the 4060, but the Ti variant as well, just for that reason alone.
@@maxweinbach3996 Realise that the RTX 4060 (TDP 115W) should be called RTX 4050 and the 160 W 4060 Ti is the true successor to RTX 3060 (170 W). Nvidia made the a huge technological leap, but they cut their silicon as much as possible just to be "slightly" faster than the last gen cards.
@@maxweinbach3996 well it's been exactly the case since several generations now. performance per dollar ratio has been stagnating for the last 3 generations. Nvidia probably planned for a 500$ 5060. with about same perfs (and price), as an 4070. But with a "new" gimmick feature. They have done this since the 2000 series.
@RatreoTumips-ig8lg not true. 2080 was about on par to a 3060 Ti. There was a leap in the 3000 series that was notable. But the 4000 series was a f****ing joke and spit to the face.
All current gen cards should have been 12 GB to start at the low end, and been 16 GB mid range. The fact that there were 8 GB 4060 cards was legit a joke.
10gb & i dont have a problem even with next gen titles. before i reach the 10 gb vram mark i usually struggle with the cards overall performance core limitation
Ive got an AMD 7900xt and ive been impressed eith the steps Intel has been making with their GPU's. I hope they continue to build them. I wish more companies would make gpu's. I need to fix my sons computer and a gpu upgrade would be nice, but I will never be able to afford it.
I'm considering building a small PC to park at my mom's house, and Intel just made it onto the list of potential parts to get. Impressive stuff, Intel.
I think they are still planning on releasing their 700 series of B cards, so B750 and B770, which one can imagine will blow some other cards out of the water, if the B580 is anything to go by. Or maybe I'm wrong, but it would be great to see some competition.
@bearde_mut9731 They could theoretically do a 40 Xe core version, but doubling the cores and bus and everything would result in a nearly 4090-sized die with the yield and cost issues that come with such a large chip. Tripling it to 60 Xe cores would be beyond TSMC manufacturing limits.
@@jameslake7775 but it has RTC 4060 level transistor count though . Maybe like a580 and a770 ( both are 406mm2 in spec list of techpowerup but has different amount of cores 24 vs 32 ) there are reuse of defected dies
@@osahon9483 Isn't there suppose to come a B750 and B770 if looking the A series trend? As I could see a B770 be a 350 card that would challenge even a 4080 cards.....
@@maxweinbach3996 It's clearly a massive improvement in one generation. AMD and Nvidia are not improving in such massive jumps. nvidia maybe holding back by not fitting enough VRAM.
@@markdove59308 billion isnt really much for intel. Its a small portion of what it costs to build their US fab. That being said, the US subsidizes many states, farmers, countries and just about every branch of business. But yeah, Nvidia/amd cards are a much, much, much safer bet for reliability on future drivers and AMDs 8600 will probably smack the b580
@@markdove5930 Intel's competitors that make the chips that nvidia and amd use, in Asia got government assistance that helped to get them where they are today. I'm not from the US, but if the US government allows Intel to fail it then it would be a massive mistake, it's critical that the US can do all parts of the process for making chips, if China takes over Taiwan (which is not out of the question given what happened in Ukraine) then the US is at massive risk.
The B580 is most definitely welcomed. Reviewers are stating it's the new champion for 'budget' GPU/gaming but that's conditioning from the duopoly's past years of gouging us. I hope this starts a run of foxes in the coop.
I bought 10 A series ARC cards to support Intel. Used for budget Gaming PCs for family and friends. This generational improvement at a low price point is amazing. Can't wait to grab a B580
@maxweinbach3996 I support Intel by buying their gpus and building budget pcs for people that would never do it themselves. They just pay me for the parts and I do it in my free time
As much as there was great flat out performance against the 4060 it was to me more impressive that it was encroaching on the 3070 when price compared. It seems like a very nice card and a worthy step in the right direction. Hats off to the team for their work on this.
It's awesome to see more competition in GFX cards market. I think Intel has a big opportunity capture some market share if they can provide gamers with some additional competitive cards. An example would be to release a B780 model (or whatever their top model number is) that would cost around $500, but could chase (matching isn't realistic) the 7900xt and 4070 TI Super for performance. Doing that while beating them on price by $100 to $200 will give them a big advantage. There's a huge amount of market share that's available at the $500 price point, but the current cards just don't offer the value at the price and that where Intel can give the Duopoly a serious black eye.
I like how we saw little glimpses of potential greatness in their first cards with the ray-tracing performance. And now we're seeing it start to flourish 🙌🏽 Great time to be a PC enthusiast. Can't wait to see their big cards!
I expect to do a build with this card, but will wait until after the holidays and CES. I’ve been waiting and almost went with an A series. I want to support another competitor in this space, but didn’t want to go through first generation growing pains. Now looks to be the time to jump in!
The stability looks much better. Still may have newly released games not running great for a few days until the driver comes, possibly a setting or two that causes strange performance (x3D CPUs with the b580 in Cyberpunk RT ultra). But comparing to the alchemist launch, it's night and day.
I'll wait and see what else Intel has in store for this generation. Imagine if they do a 1.5x or 2x of the B580, with 16 (or 18? if it's 1.5x...) and 24 GB of VRAM, it's going to be amazing.
Yeah, it looks decent. Yeah, when I bought my 4070, I was not really happy but had a very specific use case. Hopefully, competition at this level will move standards up, i.e., moving away from 8gb cards in this sector as well push good value for money and get nvidia 60 amd 700 series of performance for a decent price. Well done, Intel. decent work for 2nd generation
Even at $250, that's tempting to pick up just to see how well they perform. I had a 1080ti and now have a 4080 Super and want to see what Intel can really make. While I'm outside of the current target price point, I can definitely see the value these cards are going to bring especially for new pc builders and lower spec builders.
It absolutely is enough to make me consider. I haven't ever done a new PC build, it's always been second hand and upgrade, but this makes me want to do my first new build
@@DesFTW_ Main thing to watch out for is the motherboard with ReBAR. A lot of AM4 motherboards don't support it. But if you're building all new you'll be fine.
I like the Iron Man analogy because the mark 2 suit was faaar from the best suit Tony ended up making. Looking forward to what Intel will bring to the table. Ordered my B580 just now.
I'm super excited for this. The $250 price point is not where I shop for graphics cards but what this represents is their ability to create a good value and reliable card. The first generation cards, I never really heard any issues on reliability. It looks like they are maturing and pushing their architecture further with the B series and I would love to see a big card that would compete with a 4080 or 7900 XTX. If they built something like that, I would absolutely be keen on trying it out
@nERVEcenter117 I'll buy when I see if Nvidia really wants to fail me with the 5060. I have a 3060 and I love it except for its speed. If 5060 is gonna be the same thing, more speed and same or more vram and for a good price, I won't even look at Intel. Otherwise I'll buy myself a B770.
This is EXCITING! More competition is better for all of us. I'm an nVidia guy and have been for years but I'd love to see Big Green get punched in the nose. Go get 'em, Intel.
Jay want to take a time and tell you I appreciate your channel, Very informative and hope more future success to you. About Intel, I briefly had the a770 from asRock. And going from a 2070 super to it was night and Day. I ended up returning it because I needed VR without the hazzle. Anyway before moving my old 2070 to my kids rig I am definitely considering getting the B series from intel for them. Once again I appreciate your channel alot. Have a great one
Intel finally hitting a Home Run, and in the Dpgu market of all places! Good news for those wanting an affordable and performative Gpu, while crucially having sufficient 12gb of Vram as the icing on the cake.
@@maxweinbach3996 I mainly buy Gaming Laptops. If I were to build a budget desktop system, for $250 on the B580 it would be a slam dunk. I am also curious about the B770 16gb card, to see if it can get ~4070 levels of performance at the $400 range which is what is rumored. If Battlemage gets into the mobile market, I'd definitely buy a 12gb vram model of it over dog$hit Nvidia cards that only have 8gb of vram, which both the 5060 and 5070 mobile are leaked to have..
I'm getting my plans in place for a new total build in 2025. My main usage is for Lightroom and Photoshop, with occasional light gaming. I'd like to see some creative/production benchmarks, but so far this looks very promising. Thanks Intel for taking a sane approach to both design and pricing.
In production it's not the fastest... but the A series has some of the best blender raytracing and davinci resolve/stream encoding I've seen, and it scores extra points for VRAM, which limits the scene size in 3D production.
I think Intel should definitely take a long look at their GPUs and try to replicate that in their CPUs, that being said I think expecting poor Pat to turn around a ship shareholders have spent years to destroy around in four years is kinda unfair
Unfortunately that just doesn't translate, otherwise AMD would be leading in GPUs too, with how well they turned their CPU business and how much experience they have in the GPU market.
The future is integrated graphics and SFF power efficient systems. Desktop PCs will be relegated to workstations in a few years. We already integrated sound, networking, and all the other IO addin cards, why not gaming graphics?
Not to mention that just designing the chip takes more than 2 years. His successor will get the fame, but the work was (probably) done by him in these past years.
@@kurtwinter4422 doubtful. I heard the same thing in the early 2000 about Laptops. "No one will use a Desktop PC in 10 years time", they said. That didn't work out so well, did it. There are too many benefits from having a larger case, the ease to build in, the versatility, the better pricing for the case and the components etc...
@@kurtwinter4422 Because the limit is the human senses. We already got to the point where is possible to built in a passable audio amplifier, good enough to 90% of us. We aren't close enough this on a GPU: we still can (fairly easily) tell image from game and image from reality apart. Whe the integrated graphics starts delivering this kind of performance, the dedicated GPUs will be relegated to the professional market. Not before. And we have "meh" onboard network cards, that are fit for small use. When someone need to do serious network stuff, they buy a dedicated one.
I currently have a 3070, and am REALLY looking into these, I'm not going to put in for this generation, but really looking at them. And thank you for putting in the 3070, was very curious how they compared.
I have always been a NVIDIA fan, but saying that the B580 is well worth a consideration. I am in New Zealand and the B580 isnt going to be cheap here, but I'll wait and see. Cheers and you all have a safe and happy Christmas and new Year.
I find it amusing how both you and LTT had Jawa sponsorships for your videos talking about the new Intel cards. Looking forward to seeing how availability and popularity ends up as this card releases and enters rigs over the coming months.
We will absolutely upgrade one of our systems with a B580. I'm still really hoping for a B770 or something, but considering our slowest system is using a 2060 6GB, this would be an awesome jump without going crazy on price. I'm stoked for Intel!
Its normal cause the drivers updating. When a software is new like intel gpu's drivers has a lot of space to improve and that's happened between early previous and your gpu's performance
intel arc is getting better over time bc of software and drivers. they were literally upfront with yall "buy it but it has driver problems but overtime problem will slowly disappear"
Right there with ya. I really do hope they edge their way into the market and start to produce cards that can compete with the 70 series. I've always enjoyed Intel CPUs, I guess I'm just more familiar with them because that's just what I've used. But I haven't upgraded in years at this point, (still running a delidded 8700k) so I can't use these yet, but, here at some point I'll have to upgrade the board, cpu and gpu, if they get into the higher tier slots I'll definitely be looking at them first when the time comes
Ok INTEL, if you reading this comment then DON"T GIVE UP on your dreams, drop by drop can eventually become a lake so step by step you will take the throne in GPU world because believe in fighters as you are right now against other big GPU corporations....🤗💖
I actually love a story where a company designs a product that is better AND cheaper than their competitors' products- and then there is so much demand for the product that the free market drives the price up, and they make a pile of money to plow into more new products.
Wanted to pre order the Limited Edition but it was sold out. Ended up getting the AsRock Steel Legend variant for 29 dollars more. This review has me absolutely hyped. Crazy that I can replace my $700 Radeon VII with a $270 card now
Radeon VII should never have been sold as a gaming card. As an editing card, it still rocks. But it can’t and never could game. We tried to buy two for our editors. We’re only able to buy one. Got a 4090 when they came out. The editors still prefer the Radeon VII.
I love the idea of graphics power without the weight or extra watt requirement. My GeForce RTX 3060 was so heavy that I had to design a mechanical support in the case because it was leaning in my Asus Z790 motherboard.
Geez Intel, very well done! I got myself a 16gb A770 early this year on a discount, a gpu which i am very satisfied with when running the games i play in 4k ultra (Hunter: call of the wild and Snowrunner, mainly). B580 is a freaking beast, never thought it would smack my A770 up like this. Well done Intel 🤘🏻. Thanks for great video Jay, merry christmas 🎅🏻 Seeing around 75-100fps in Call of the wild.
Just to let you know Jay, you have the "Universe render bug" at 3.02 where for 1 frame Universe deregisters itself. Thought it might be a hidden Easter egg, but alas! Cheers!
If I were to guess, the b770 would be coming out after the rtx 5070 and amd 8800xt (or whatever the direct competitor to the 5070 will be). So at that point there will be a good selection of parts to compare against
I have been updating about 15 PC Part picker lists for friends who say they won't spend more than 1 k on a PC for years. Now 7 of them finally are ready to make the jump to PC after sharing the info about this GPU w/ all of them.
Very interesting insights. The $250 regime is where I shop at, which will amount to at least 400 of our Canuckistanian rubles wherever we finally see availability. Thanks Jay, great video. Side note: there was a time 15 years ago when I thought you were a rapper giving his opinion on tech. Jayz + 50 Cent = Jayz2cents. Go figure.
Looking forward to the reviews on the aftermarket boards! I got a feeling they may shock everyone and with Intels commitment to driver support things could get spicy!
I think this is an awesome proposition for the budget conscious. The price to performance has always been the metric, the traditional '60 or 70' series was the field. The last gpu I bought was a founders 3070 (for retail) at 349 for my wife's pc, but I'd have considered this as an option. I'd like to see what Intel does with higher tier cards too. I'm still driving my 1080ti FTW3 ELITE from EVGA but I'm due for a system wide upgrade soon.
I wish people outside US could buy these "consumer friendly" stuff that Americans claim about. Since cards like 6700xt and 7600xt are 400$+ and rare as unicorns while 4060 are 280-290. Not so consumer friendly if you don't live in the US
Yeah Here in Italy gpu prices are insane. When I was building my first gaming pc, I just bought a 6650xt for 250€ without putting major research behind this purchase. I was so lucky it was the best purchase for the Italian market, because 4060s and 7600's cost ludicrous prices
An announcement that "Universe is unregistered, log into your Maxon account" If you use single frame advance or frame back buttons, you can examine little blips like that on a frame-by-frame basis.
I already have a A750 LE that I got for $180 to basically try out ARC and it’s been good with its hit or miss issues. I used to not be able to use my KVM as the display would constantly flash. That’s since gone away. My other rig is 7900XTX but it’s a 4k living room rig. If the B700 series comes out and is solid I will go for it. I’m tempted to do B580 just to have but idk.
Wow finally after five reloads does RUclips allow me to watch this in Englsh, despite being in Canada and having English selected in Chrome, and English in YT settings, it was insisting, just insisting that I'm Italian, then German, then Italian again, wow, great featrur implementation you dumbasses. I mean their auto-guess location or whatever feature (no, not on a VPN either) just disregarding actual settings is nuts. An algorithm shouldnt be able to decide these things.
When you don't have to go with a budget GPU it's easy to ignore how much this matters. I don't have the fastest GPU, (7900 XT) but I have caught myself laughing at the 4060. If someone on a budget can get a 4060, or an Intel GPU that lets them get the best bang for their buck, it does matter. The real growth in the hobby doesn't happen at the top end. I think AMD has realized that but so has Intel.
I don't think it has anything to do with the tier, but with the price, I would still be running my GTX 1080 if it didn't die, and that's a pretty much a top of the line card, but I only spent 250€. Then again, when it died I had to spend 630€ in a RTX 3070, that still only has 8GB or VRAM. So yeah, they either ramp up the performance of mid-tier, or lower down the price on the top-tier.
hey jay. I've been busy these past few months with life. finally got around to watching your video. you look a lot more slimmer in this video. I hope everything is doing great and I wish you well.
I'd definitely buy one if I were currently in the market for a system in that price bracket. They've shown they're serious about steadily improving their drivers too.
@@shansen008 Sounds like a scalper so I'd avoid that like the plague. Especially since new egg doesn't even have the Arc-B series posted on their site yet.
Perfect for me. Looking to upgrade my components slowly. Sadly most reviewers except Linus have left out that it's 10th gen Intel plus so I'm stuck with my 1080 and 8700K until I can afford a platform upgrade. Glad at least one person mentioned it.
Launched here this morning in NZ with the major retailer listing them for $516, with the 4060 being $560-600 for comparison. By the time I had watched the reviews and decided to buy one to play around with, they'd sold out completely. There is clearly interest in this price range.
I was ready to spend 4k on my first high end gaming desktop. 2 weeks later the only pc store in the area couldn’t get the motherboard, chip, ram, graphic card. Now I have to wait another 6 months until micro center pops up next year
I know it's so old but I wish people added the 1080ti to benchmarks like this because it seems whenever i think i'll upgrade my card from it, it seems to perform as good or in some cases better and I realise unless I buy higher flagship cards, it's still putting in work. Used 1080tis are so worth it still and it blows my mind. The MyTwoCentz rofl
It has Display Port 2.1 which is a huge feature this card has that the 3080 doesn’t. You can drive way higher frame rates at higher resolutions and we’re finally getting into 480 hz oled monitors so the GPUs are next to catch up.
The ONLY reason I haven't aught a B580 is that I'm waiting for the £400 card as that's my budget, I'm so excited to see how that B750/770 compares against the 7700/7800xt as that was what I was going to upgrade to
As someone playing WoW Classic on a 10-year-old PC and considering upgrading the hardware, this could hit the sweet spot between performance and price. I am very interested in this, to be honest.
That PCIe 4x8 connection (and matching chipset and components) probably helped keep that price down. I spent the full day trying to convince a friend of mine to upgrade to one, but then realized that his MB only as PCIe 3 x 16 connector so....
Man this is seriously impressive progress in such a short time! if intel doesn't offer a higher spec, a770 type card on this new architecture, I'm going to be really disappointed... so much potential to shake up the market properly.. I'm tempted to get one of these b580's just for the sake of having a770le and b580le
With the price of more expensive higher-end cards, I would expect the whole thing to be compression-attached with the heatsink being used as the pressure-mounting solution compression attachment needs, so if the VRAM goes bad I can just replace it myself and if there ever is a newer die compatible with the PCB through firmware, replace that rather than buying new cards outright.
I was honestly rooting for Moore Threads if they could just spin up an American subsidiary; however they may be named, and produce something competent; whatever that may be. But Intel being the third horse which comes from behind to not only stem their hemorrhaging reputation, but also provide a _solid_ entry-level choice every game _sort of_ supports already with a buff to Xe / HD Graphics is a welcome substitute. Perhaps for CPU stuff, Intel can sort out 15th gen production too.
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Nvidia definitely needs competition to bring prices down to a more reasonable price.
Intel are coming for Nvidia.
Coming more for AMD than Nvidia.
I start thinking that Nvidia is going to be some kind of Apple, overpriced - peace of shit. And for now we see only overprice. I hope they will make its stuff cost less, because right now they got a lot of good things and features(drivers and etc. as well), but i simply can't effort it without some trades with other life-important things. So games and powerful-PC stuff always got delay to later. Yet i wish to get something better for GPU(since everything else step by step is updated). And this is where i probably will switch to Intel, but i have some concerns about it.
Intel should increase vram to cover prosumer market also.
Competitor with 24Gb vram should cover my needs in cgi workflow.
@@brodriguez11000 Not so sure about that. AMD cards are the best when comparing performance to price if you don't care about RT. Plus the whole cpu debacle didnt help them. Intel isn't going to catch either one of them after giving AMD the cpu market. But at the end of the day, I hope they do good. It would benefit us consumers.
honestly, intel should be proud of what they managed to pull off here.
Massive improvements for sure.
250 would be nice but it's getting scalped for sure
And still everyone will buy 4060.
bs...this gpu is pathetic
@@starofeden9277lol it's in arguably a great gpu.
Just imagine $500 GPU competing with RTX4080 range card, would be a very tasty offer
Take my money
I would switch immediately
I imagine a world where phones DIDNT cost 1000usd while removing features.
Unfortunately, that world is a fantasy
Upgrading my 7800xt to that when it comes out.
8800XT anyone? I'd pay $699 for a 8800XTX 32GB though 😋
B580 turned out to be a beast! Really really looking forward to the B770 now!
imagine that cost 500$ and competes with 4080 range card
@@ailikethough.6921 We can only hope!
@ailikethough.6921 $450 for a 16gb vram and $500 for 24gb vram would be great
@@ailikethough.6921 cant imagine! current price difference is 4060/b580 20%. 4080 is $1000 and price ratio is 100% for $500. WAke up lil bro
@@despairdx if they want to seriously disrupt and have a shot at their cards outselling the competition they'll pull a Sony move and cut into their margins this round to make $500-600 happen, which they definitely can. It'll be paying off for years to come.
I was an early adopter of the Acer Bi-Frost A770. I have had no issues except for when I was trying to overclock and induced instability. Currently waiting on the B7XX/B9XX cards to be released. With frame generation my games were triple digit fps with 3840x1080 widescreen. Another benefit is that Intel updates keep making these cards better. Have mostly played BG3 and Cyberpunk 2077. Side note - I had great luck with under-volting these cards to 169 - 185 volts. That is how I ended up with higher clocks.
NVidia is going the direction of car manufacturers. They're making bigger and bigger products with bigger and bigger prices. Eventually they'll be like car dealerships with cars sitting on the lot, because of they've become overpriced.
yeah, car manufacturers are making all their cars luxury cars with a high starting price and then they are wondering why they are not selling. because the average price of a new car is 45,000-55,000 dollars. I hope that Intel ARC does not go away anytime soon to bring the prices of both Nvidia and AMD down.
Nvidia will always sell.
People will always pay that 50k over sticker just to have to coolest/fastest car
@@christophermullins7163nah if they don’t change they are definitely on their way out. When you can spend half the price and get everything you want they are going to lose value and shareholders are gonna be pissed
@@admiraljosephterix148 Given how much it should cost to develop a GPU from the scratch that can axtually compete with amd/nvidia, I'm sure that Intel would've not done it if they weren't planning to stay on this market for decade of two.
For a 12gb, 192 bit card, $250 feels like a steal. I'd argue this card not only undercuts the 4060, but the Ti variant as well, just for that reason alone.
It would be a steal if next generation 60 series cards perform the same at the same price. What's the likelihood of that?
@@maxweinbach3996 Realise that the RTX 4060 (TDP 115W) should be called RTX 4050 and the 160 W 4060 Ti is the true successor to RTX 3060 (170 W). Nvidia made the a huge technological leap, but they cut their silicon as much as possible just to be "slightly" faster than the last gen cards.
@@maxweinbach3996 well it's been exactly the case since several generations now. performance per dollar ratio has been stagnating for the last 3 generations. Nvidia probably planned for a 500$ 5060. with about same perfs (and price), as an 4070. But with a "new" gimmick feature.
They have done this since the 2000 series.
@RatreoTumips-ig8lg the point is celebrating that it beats a 4060 at a slightly lower price is silly. Wait a few months and then decide.
@RatreoTumips-ig8lg not true. 2080 was about on par to a 3060 Ti. There was a leap in the 3000 series that was notable. But the 4000 series was a f****ing joke and spit to the face.
All current gen cards should have been 12 GB to start at the low end, and been 16 GB mid range. The fact that there were 8 GB 4060 cards was legit a joke.
This I agree with in 2024. Perhaps in a laptop it makes sense for 8GB VRAM cards but not for a desktop. And not at their pricepoints.
i agree and the 3070 was a legit joke
10gb & i dont have a problem even with next gen titles. before i reach the 10 gb vram mark i usually struggle with the cards overall performance core limitation
if you're unhappy just make your own.
@@oliknow being unhappy doesn't change thew fact NVidia are rip offs does it docile one.
Ive got an AMD 7900xt and ive been impressed eith the steps Intel has been making with their GPU's. I hope they continue to build them. I wish more companies would make gpu's. I need to fix my sons computer and a gpu upgrade would be nice, but I will never be able to afford it.
I'm considering building a small PC to park at my mom's house, and Intel just made it onto the list of potential parts to get. Impressive stuff, Intel.
Of course that will never happen😂
This is honestly huge, if they release a bigger scaled card with the same architecture, it will be an actual high tier build contender now.
This is supposedly already a nearly 4070Ti-sized die, so I’m not sure how much room there is to scale it up more.
I think they are still planning on releasing their 700 series of B cards, so B750 and B770, which one can imagine will blow some other cards out of the water, if the B580 is anything to go by.
Or maybe I'm wrong, but it would be great to see some competition.
@bearde_mut9731 They could theoretically do a 40 Xe core version, but doubling the cores and bus and everything would result in a nearly 4090-sized die with the yield and cost issues that come with such a large chip.
Tripling it to 60 Xe cores would be beyond TSMC manufacturing limits.
@@jameslake7775 but it has RTC 4060 level transistor count though . Maybe like a580 and a770 ( both are 406mm2 in spec list of techpowerup but has different amount of cores 24 vs 32 ) there are reuse of defected dies
@@TigonIIIyou’re right
It’s next year tho when they plan on releasing
Jay, the A770 was a great start, and this shows Intel has really been pulling out the stops. The B580 is a win for all PC gamers.
Native 1440p 60fps for £250, I used to pray for times like these. 😭
Comparing to last gen Nvidia, amd isn't a complete conversation
The C580 will be perfect if this trend continues
@@osahon9483 Isn't there suppose to come a B750 and B770 if looking the A series trend?
As I could see a B770 be a 350 card that would challenge even a 4080 cards.....
@@maxweinbach3996 It's clearly a massive improvement in one generation. AMD and Nvidia are not improving in such massive jumps. nvidia maybe holding back by not fitting enough VRAM.
Hope this really sells like hot cakes, we have to support this budget gaming needs to live on
Yeah, if it doesnt sell... i dont see a good futur for pc gaming outside of prebuilt laptop or handheld or steam machine prebuilt
It won't and people should stay away from them too.
Intel is currently a government subsidiary and when they cut it next year it will go under.
@@markdove59308 billion isnt really much for intel. Its a small portion of what it costs to build their US fab.
That being said, the US subsidizes many states, farmers, countries and just about every branch of business.
But yeah, Nvidia/amd cards are a much, much, much safer bet for reliability on future drivers and AMDs 8600 will probably smack the b580
@@markdove5930 Intel makes 50 billion $ revenue each year and is only in the red due to giant Investments in the foundry business
@@markdove5930 Intel's competitors that make the chips that nvidia and amd use, in Asia got government assistance that helped to get them where they are today. I'm not from the US, but if the US government allows Intel to fail it then it would be a massive mistake, it's critical that the US can do all parts of the process for making chips, if China takes over Taiwan (which is not out of the question given what happened in Ukraine) then the US is at massive risk.
The B580 is most definitely welcomed. Reviewers are stating it's the new champion for 'budget' GPU/gaming but that's conditioning from the duopoly's past years of gouging us. I hope this starts a run of foxes in the coop.
Met Tom a few weeks ago and got to chit chat about the new cards. He's stoked. Super nice guy!
I bought 10 A series ARC cards to support Intel. Used for budget Gaming PCs for family and friends. This generational improvement at a low price point is amazing. Can't wait to grab a B580
Congratz well done, we need Intel to save us from this prices
That's a lot of cards, and a lot of driver issues that will report back to you for installing them those cards.
Hope you also have a great therapist.
@YOEL_44 lol, haven't been any issues as of yet.
You support them by buying for other people?
@maxweinbach3996 I support Intel by buying their gpus and building budget pcs for people that would never do it themselves. They just pay me for the parts and I do it in my free time
As much as there was great flat out performance against the 4060 it was to me more impressive that it was encroaching on the 3070 when price compared. It seems like a very nice card and a worthy step in the right direction. Hats off to the team for their work on this.
only on old games XD just see visuals on latest and performance XD
Every benchmark I've seen puts it closer to a 4060 ti than a 4060. Which is a 400 dollar card.
@halycon404 coz you are watching fake benchmarks.
@halycon404 show me anyone tested it with black myth wukong ultra settings? Latest 3D mark tests?
@halycon404 and the visuals comparison?
Newegg had a super good promotion on the A770 for like $280 and this card has blown me away.
It's awesome to see more competition in GFX cards market. I think Intel has a big opportunity capture some market share if they can provide gamers with some additional competitive cards. An example would be to release a B780 model (or whatever their top model number is) that would cost around $500, but could chase (matching isn't realistic) the 7900xt and 4070 TI Super for performance. Doing that while beating them on price by $100 to $200 will give them a big advantage. There's a huge amount of market share that's available at the $500 price point, but the current cards just don't offer the value at the price and that where Intel can give the Duopoly a serious black eye.
I like how we saw little glimpses of potential greatness in their first cards with the ray-tracing performance. And now we're seeing it start to flourish 🙌🏽 Great time to be a PC enthusiast. Can't wait to see their big cards!
I expect to do a build with this card, but will wait until after the holidays and CES. I’ve been waiting and almost went with an A series. I want to support another competitor in this space, but didn’t want to go through first generation growing pains. Now looks to be the time to jump in!
Thank you for your sacrifice
The stability looks much better. Still may have newly released games not running great for a few days until the driver comes, possibly a setting or two that causes strange performance (x3D CPUs with the b580 in Cyberpunk RT ultra). But comparing to the alchemist launch, it's night and day.
I'll wait and see what else Intel has in store for this generation. Imagine if they do a 1.5x or 2x of the B580, with 16 (or 18? if it's 1.5x...) and 24 GB of VRAM, it's going to be amazing.
Yeah, it looks decent. Yeah, when I bought my 4070, I was not really happy but had a very specific use case. Hopefully, competition at this level will move standards up, i.e., moving away from 8gb cards in this sector as well push good value for money and get nvidia 60 amd 700 series of performance for a decent price.
Well done, Intel. decent work for 2nd generation
Lets support Intel!
More competition ia better
Even at $250, that's tempting to pick up just to see how well they perform. I had a 1080ti and now have a 4080 Super and want to see what Intel can really make. While I'm outside of the current target price point, I can definitely see the value these cards are going to bring especially for new pc builders and lower spec builders.
It absolutely is enough to make me consider. I haven't ever done a new PC build, it's always been second hand and upgrade, but this makes me want to do my first new build
Just make sure your CPU and GPU support ReBAR. Not a difficult requirement, Intel 10th gen or ryzen 3000 based system if I remember correctly
@@DesFTW_ Main thing to watch out for is the motherboard with ReBAR. A lot of AM4 motherboards don't support it. But if you're building all new you'll be fine.
I like the Iron Man analogy because the mark 2 suit was faaar from the best suit Tony ended up making. Looking forward to what Intel will bring to the table. Ordered my B580 just now.
I'm super excited for this. The $250 price point is not where I shop for graphics cards but what this represents is their ability to create a good value and reliable card. The first generation cards, I never really heard any issues on reliability. It looks like they are maturing and pushing their architecture further with the B series and I would love to see a big card that would compete with a 4080 or 7900 XTX. If they built something like that, I would absolutely be keen on trying it out
Assuming an embargo dropped since I had dozens of videos pop up in a 30 second span 😂
Jup. I'm a bit surprised. Usually it happens 24 hours before release, but I guess Intel wanted it differently.
Still, it's great news
@@Hjorth87 jup :)
Wait when is the launch? @@Hjorth87
It’s only for intel’s limited card. The other manufacturer cards are tomorrow
😂yeah that shit killed me
Praying intel arc battlemage will go well…
You can pray, or you can buy one.
@nERVEcenter117 I'll buy when I see if Nvidia really wants to fail me with the 5060. I have a 3060 and I love it except for its speed. If 5060 is gonna be the same thing, more speed and same or more vram and for a good price, I won't even look at Intel. Otherwise I'll buy myself a B770.
@@nERVEcenter117already pre-ordered to replace my old 1060 6gb!
I will buy one for my son's PC, it's time for his trusty 2060 to go for a rest.
@FreelancerND That's very nice.
This is EXCITING! More competition is better for all of us. I'm an nVidia guy and have been for years but I'd love to see Big Green get punched in the nose. Go get 'em, Intel.
Oh yeah, this will keep AMDs prices low on their entry level for sure
intel will never get there
@@starofeden9277 they will eventually
Jay want to take a time and tell you I appreciate your channel, Very informative and hope more future success to you. About Intel, I briefly had the a770 from asRock. And going from a 2070 super to it was night and Day. I ended up returning it because I needed VR without the hazzle. Anyway before moving my old 2070 to my kids rig I am definitely considering getting the B series from intel for them. Once again I appreciate your channel alot. Have a great one
1:05 skip the ad
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Intel finally hitting a Home Run, and in the Dpgu market of all places! Good news for those wanting an affordable and performative Gpu, while crucially having sufficient 12gb of Vram as the icing on the cake.
Yet you won't buy it
@@maxweinbach3996 I mainly buy Gaming Laptops. If I were to build a budget desktop system, for $250 on the B580 it would be a slam dunk. I am also curious about the B770 16gb card, to see if it can get ~4070 levels of performance at the $400 range which is what is rumored.
If Battlemage gets into the mobile market, I'd definitely buy a 12gb vram model of it over dog$hit Nvidia cards that only have 8gb of vram, which both the 5060 and 5070 mobile are leaked to have..
@@maxweinbach3996 i did :), was running 770 now waiting for my 580, had a great experience so far
unless you are someone who plays vr, then this is still not a option till Intel drivers add vr support.
@@brooklynforge4591 an entry level card isn't really what you get for VR, to be fair.
I'm getting my plans in place for a new total build in 2025. My main usage is for Lightroom and Photoshop, with occasional light gaming. I'd like to see some creative/production benchmarks, but so far this looks very promising. Thanks Intel for taking a sane approach to both design and pricing.
u making a mistake
Its a gaming card first. ive seen some of the benchmarks and its a little slow in terms of production
ye intel only does it because they are so "sane"..
the massive price increases as soon as ppl start buying of course are only due to magical reasons
In production it's not the fastest... but the A series has some of the best blender raytracing and davinci resolve/stream encoding I've seen, and it scores extra points for VRAM, which limits the scene size in 3D production.
I think Intel should definitely take a long look at their GPUs and try to replicate that in their CPUs, that being said I think expecting poor Pat to turn around a ship shareholders have spent years to destroy around in four years is kinda unfair
Unfortunately that just doesn't translate, otherwise AMD would be leading in GPUs too, with how well they turned their CPU business and how much experience they have in the GPU market.
The future is integrated graphics and SFF power efficient systems. Desktop PCs will be relegated to workstations in a few years. We already integrated sound, networking, and all the other IO addin cards, why not gaming graphics?
Not to mention that just designing the chip takes more than 2 years. His successor will get the fame, but the work was (probably) done by him in these past years.
@@kurtwinter4422 doubtful. I heard the same thing in the early 2000 about Laptops. "No one will use a Desktop PC in 10 years time", they said. That didn't work out so well, did it. There are too many benefits from having a larger case, the ease to build in, the versatility, the better pricing for the case and the components etc...
@@kurtwinter4422 Because the limit is the human senses. We already got to the point where is possible to built in a passable audio amplifier, good enough to 90% of us.
We aren't close enough this on a GPU: we still can (fairly easily) tell image from game and image from reality apart.
Whe the integrated graphics starts delivering this kind of performance, the dedicated GPUs will be relegated to the professional market. Not before.
And we have "meh" onboard network cards, that are fit for small use. When someone need to do serious network stuff, they buy a dedicated one.
I currently have a 3070, and am REALLY looking into these, I'm not going to put in for this generation, but really looking at them. And thank you for putting in the 3070, was very curious how they compared.
I have always been a NVIDIA fan, but saying that the B580 is well worth a consideration. I am in New Zealand and the B580 isnt going to be cheap here, but I'll wait and see. Cheers and you all have a safe and happy Christmas and new Year.
Wow, I have never been this early!! I hope Intel continues to grow and refine their Graphics division.
As someone who's looking to finally build myself a computer next year, this is exciting.
I've been looking at an upgrade for a while from my 970. This looks perfect
You're not alone lol.
A second hand 1080 is already a huge step up, but yeah, this is also a very appealing new option.
Keep in mind you need pcie 4.0 for resizeable BAR for these cards if you havent upgraded your cpu/mobo etc.
@@WayStedYou so it wont work with pcie 3 mobo?
i have a 1660TI that i wanna upgrade, it looks like the B580 will be the key, but im gonna have to sell this card first to fund it...
I find it amusing how both you and LTT had Jawa sponsorships for your videos talking about the new Intel cards. Looking forward to seeing how availability and popularity ends up as this card releases and enters rigs over the coming months.
the video card physical size commentary made me chuckle with distant memories of looking at a Voodoo 2 and a TNT Riva side by side.
We will absolutely upgrade one of our systems with a B580. I'm still really hoping for a B770 or something, but considering our slowest system is using a 2060 6GB, this would be an awesome jump without going crazy on price. I'm stoked for Intel!
I have had an a770 for a while now. Way better than early reviews.
Its normal cause the drivers updating. When a software is new like intel gpu's drivers has a lot of space to improve and that's happened between early previous and your gpu's performance
@@djcoolsymi4799but is it true that they stop updating?
intel arc is getting better over time bc of software and drivers.
they were literally upfront with yall "buy it but it has driver problems but overtime problem will slowly disappear"
1:22 "Intel Arc-itechture"
Right there with ya. I really do hope they edge their way into the market and start to produce cards that can compete with the 70 series. I've always enjoyed Intel CPUs, I guess I'm just more familiar with them because that's just what I've used. But I haven't upgraded in years at this point, (still running a delidded 8700k) so I can't use these yet, but, here at some point I'll have to upgrade the board, cpu and gpu, if they get into the higher tier slots I'll definitely be looking at them first when the time comes
i would love to see something like a 595 with more cores figthing head to head with higher tier nvidia cards
Ok INTEL, if you reading this comment then DON"T GIVE UP on your dreams, drop by drop can eventually become a lake so step by step you will take the throne in GPU world because believe in fighters as you are right now against other big GPU corporations....🤗💖
Intel has many Lakes.
I actually love a story where a company designs a product that is better AND cheaper than their competitors' products- and then there is so much demand for the product that the free market drives the price up, and they make a pile of money to plow into more new products.
@MarkStockman-b4j exactly, the wake up call fo Nvidia and amd
What the hell is this inspirational speech
@nikolowolokin just to boost their moral a bit to feel safe... 😂
Wanted to pre order the Limited Edition but it was sold out. Ended up getting the AsRock Steel Legend variant for 29 dollars more.
This review has me absolutely hyped. Crazy that I can replace my $700 Radeon VII with a $270 card now
Radeon VII should never have been sold as a gaming card. As an editing card, it still rocks. But it can’t and never could game. We tried to buy two for our editors. We’re only able to buy one. Got a 4090 when they came out. The editors still prefer the Radeon VII.
@@richardbeckenbaugh1805 Yeah vega is a compute monster, arc is shaping up to be a compute + gaming monster.
I have an RX 5600XT, and this is definitely on my radar.
I love the idea of graphics power without the weight or extra watt requirement. My GeForce RTX 3060 was so heavy that I had to design a mechanical support in the case because it was leaning in my Asus Z790 motherboard.
Geez Intel, very well done!
I got myself a 16gb A770 early this year on a discount, a gpu which i am very satisfied with when running the games i play in 4k ultra (Hunter: call of the wild and Snowrunner, mainly).
B580 is a freaking beast, never thought it would smack my A770 up like this.
Well done Intel 🤘🏻.
Thanks for great video Jay, merry christmas 🎅🏻
Seeing around 75-100fps in Call of the wild.
competition is always good in the pc marketspace
ARM vs x86.
It is always good.
Intel PLEASE release a high end GPU in the next two years!! Cheers
If they manage to pull that off it would be HUGE, but as of now we can only hope.
That single frame jump at 3:02 is killing me, smalls.
But the human eye can't see that fast 😂 Jokes aside i saw that too lol
Remember, Universe is Unlicensed.
@@MillerWissen i seen that too, please launch Maxon App
and launch from maxon app
Jays in trouble
Just to let you know Jay, you have the "Universe render bug" at 3.02 where for 1 frame Universe deregisters itself. Thought it might be a hidden Easter egg, but alas! Cheers!
I noticed that too, there's one frame of it at 1:36 as well.
I'd consider one now for my backup desktop or guest PC. It seems like a great value for most situations.
I'm kind of torn right now because JayzTwoCents stated that RGB isn't making this card run faster. How is that possible?!
Until they can figure out how to make RGB go plaid, they will never reach "Ludicrous speed".
Could you imagine IF they added rgb?!?? Would bump price up by 50 bucks but would get AT LEAST 50% PERFORMANCE INCREASE!! 😂😂
I’ve always been a 70 or 70 TI person. If they would enter the market and compete with those, I would absolutely give them a very hard look.
Maybe later, intel had launch a 770 variant of its A series. The B series didnt get a 770 yet. So maybe intel will have something for you soon
If I were to guess, the b770 would be coming out after the rtx 5070 and amd 8800xt (or whatever the direct competitor to the 5070 will be). So at that point there will be a good selection of parts to compare against
🤣🤣🤣no dlss, no fsr, no too many game support nighter good driver
@@ghostbutcher685 intel graphic solution similar to dlss is actually better than fsr, go watch comparaison videos...
"I'm Not Having A Stroke I Swear!" t-shirts when?
I have been updating about 15 PC Part picker lists for friends who say they won't spend more than 1 k on a PC for years. Now 7 of them finally are ready to make the jump to PC after sharing the info about this GPU w/ all of them.
already reordered mine looking forward to running this in my portable build
I'm building my first gaming PC and I just preordered one of these yesterday. Came out at the perfect time for me.
Nice!
I hope you will enjoy pc gaming!
Very interesting insights. The $250 regime is where I shop at, which will amount to at least 400 of our Canuckistanian rubles wherever we finally see availability. Thanks Jay, great video.
Side note: there was a time 15 years ago when I thought you were a rapper giving his opinion on tech. Jayz + 50 Cent = Jayz2cents. Go figure.
The canuckistan ruples tells me instantly this guy subscribes to aVe
😂😂 he could be secretly
@@Haulinbassracing it tells me he's upset at something he doesn't understand
Jayz raps on tech. Listen to the cadence.
I keep mispronouncing this channel's name as Jay Z Twocents.
Nice to see Intel official slides are using 1440p in an UE5 game!
Looking forward to the reviews on the aftermarket boards! I got a feeling they may shock everyone and with Intels commitment to driver support things could get spicy!
I think this is an awesome proposition for the budget conscious. The price to performance has always been the metric, the traditional '60 or 70' series was the field. The last gpu I bought was a founders 3070 (for retail) at 349 for my wife's pc, but I'd have considered this as an option. I'd like to see what Intel does with higher tier cards too. I'm still driving my 1080ti FTW3 ELITE from EVGA but I'm due for a system wide upgrade soon.
I wish people outside US could buy these "consumer friendly" stuff that Americans claim about. Since cards like 6700xt and 7600xt are 400$+ and rare as unicorns while 4060 are 280-290.
Not so consumer friendly if you don't live in the US
@@dvornikovalexei the US is their main consumer market.
Yeah
Here in Italy gpu prices are insane. When I was building my first gaming pc, I just bought a 6650xt for 250€ without putting major research behind this purchase.
I was so lucky it was the best purchase for the Italian market, because 4060s and 7600's cost ludicrous prices
3:02 what is this blip lol
The timelines converging...
Maybe he’s using the new intel to render his video?
An announcement that "Universe is unregistered, log into your Maxon account" If you use single frame advance or frame back buttons, you can examine little blips like that on a frame-by-frame basis.
"," and "." to move it frame by frame. But it looks like end of licence on some Maxon App. LUL
It's a message from the Universe plugin from Maxon. Probably a authentication problem, lots of people complain about this.
I am a unicorn style builder. While this isn't exciting for me for purchase, this is exciting for the market. Love it
What does that mean
@@nikolowolokin High end
I love it just got the sparkle b580 but......wow so many driver issue and image glitches....but better compared to when i first got the a750.
I already have a A750 LE that I got for $180 to basically try out ARC and it’s been good with its hit or miss issues. I used to not be able to use my KVM as the display would constantly flash. That’s since gone away. My other rig is 7900XTX but it’s a 4k living room rig.
If the B700 series comes out and is solid I will go for it. I’m tempted to do B580 just to have but idk.
If amd do anything similar to this that would be great for consumers AMD and Intel against that greedy green company
keep it up intel 💪
Wow finally after five reloads does RUclips allow me to watch this in Englsh, despite being in Canada and having English selected in Chrome, and English in YT settings, it was insisting, just insisting that I'm Italian, then German, then Italian again, wow, great featrur implementation you dumbasses.
I mean their auto-guess location or whatever feature (no, not on a VPN either) just disregarding actual settings is nuts. An algorithm shouldnt be able to decide these things.
When you don't have to go with a budget GPU it's easy to ignore how much this matters. I don't have the fastest GPU, (7900 XT) but I have caught myself laughing at the 4060. If someone on a budget can get a 4060, or an Intel GPU that lets them get the best bang for their buck, it does matter. The real growth in the hobby doesn't happen at the top end.
I think AMD has realized that but so has Intel.
I don't think it has anything to do with the tier, but with the price, I would still be running my GTX 1080 if it didn't die, and that's a pretty much a top of the line card, but I only spent 250€.
Then again, when it died I had to spend 630€ in a RTX 3070, that still only has 8GB or VRAM.
So yeah, they either ramp up the performance of mid-tier, or lower down the price on the top-tier.
hey jay. I've been busy these past few months with life. finally got around to watching your video. you look a lot more slimmer in this video. I hope everything is doing great and I wish you well.
I'd definitely buy one if I were currently in the market for a system in that price bracket. They've shown they're serious about steadily improving their drivers too.
So basically it has the same power as the ps5 gpu, the 6700, for $250. Impressive.
It may be a bit better too. I would hope so, 400 minus 250 is 150 for the rest of the computer.
Cheapest B580 on Amazon is $369 =/
plus more VRAM and RT capabilities.
@@shansen008those are 3rd party scalpers I'm sure. As Jay said, try to get the Intel limited.
@@shansen008 Sounds like a scalper so I'd avoid that like the plague. Especially since new egg doesn't even have the Arc-B series posted on their site yet.
This video aged like milk..
For reference in...
Port Royal my 3060 scores a 5846.
Time Spy Extreme - overall=4925 graphics = 4559 (12900ks)
Perfect for me. Looking to upgrade my components slowly. Sadly most reviewers except Linus have left out that it's 10th gen Intel plus so I'm stuck with my 1080 and 8700K until I can afford a platform upgrade. Glad at least one person mentioned it.
Launched here this morning in NZ with the major retailer listing them for $516, with the 4060 being $560-600 for comparison. By the time I had watched the reviews and decided to buy one to play around with, they'd sold out completely. There is clearly interest in this price range.
They are 250$ with preorder
Its decent specs but since when is $250 a great discount on an emerging GPU with more bugs than the competition
Man I wish those airjet weren't so self blocked as cooling solution for gpus. I'd love to see low profile new solution and their thermals.
I was ready to spend 4k on my first high end gaming desktop. 2 weeks later the only pc store in the area couldn’t get the motherboard, chip, ram, graphic card. Now I have to wait another 6 months until micro center pops up next year
I know it's so old but I wish people added the 1080ti to benchmarks like this because it seems whenever i think i'll upgrade my card from it, it seems to perform as good or in some cases better and I realise unless I buy higher flagship cards, it's still putting in work. Used 1080tis are so worth it still and it blows my mind.
The MyTwoCentz rofl
It has Display Port 2.1 which is a huge feature this card has that the 3080 doesn’t. You can drive way higher frame rates at higher resolutions and we’re finally getting into 480 hz oled monitors so the GPUs are next to catch up.
The ONLY reason I haven't aught a B580 is that I'm waiting for the £400 card as that's my budget, I'm so excited to see how that B750/770 compares against the 7700/7800xt as that was what I was going to upgrade to
I ordered one of the limited version hopefully it arrives soon. I hope a B750/70 is in the works
Considering building a home lab with some gaming PC on the side and I am honestly interested in this one and considering it.
yes we need competitions
As someone playing WoW Classic on a 10-year-old PC and considering upgrading the hardware, this could hit the sweet spot between performance and price. I am very interested in this, to be honest.
That PCIe 4x8 connection (and matching chipset and components) probably helped keep that price down. I spent the full day trying to convince a friend of mine to upgrade to one, but then realized that his MB only as PCIe 3 x 16 connector so....
Man this is seriously impressive progress in such a short time! if intel doesn't offer a higher spec, a770 type card on this new architecture, I'm going to be really disappointed... so much potential to shake up the market properly.. I'm tempted to get one of these b580's just for the sake of having a770le and b580le
1080p being the most common res surprises me. i ditched 1080p when the gtx 1080 came out and havnt looked back.
With the price of more expensive higher-end cards, I would expect the whole thing to be compression-attached with the heatsink being used as the pressure-mounting solution compression attachment needs, so if the VRAM goes bad I can just replace it myself and if there ever is a newer die compatible with the PCB through firmware, replace that rather than buying new cards outright.
I was honestly rooting for Moore Threads if they could just spin up an American subsidiary; however they may be named, and produce something competent; whatever that may be. But Intel being the third horse which comes from behind to not only stem their hemorrhaging reputation, but also provide a _solid_ entry-level choice every game _sort of_ supports already with a buff to Xe / HD Graphics is a welcome substitute. Perhaps for CPU stuff, Intel can sort out 15th gen production too.
If only I could actually buy one. They all seem to be for pre-order in the UK with no delivery date listed.
Looking forward to the big ones!
3:42 ah yes, Tom from gamers nexus, not to be confused with Steve and Steve from Hardware Unboxed
nice seeing the maxon render glitch lol noticed immediately that it was in fact the most replayed part of the vid lmao
As long as they keep up with the driver optimizations it should do very well for people on a budget.