Should You Buy a Rolex Daytona? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- It was the watch that caused uproar, queues around the block-at least on paper, anyway. Imagine this, a product so undesirable that they can’t even be given away that then evolves to become something so sought after, people waited years to get one. The new, shiny ceramic Daytona may have stolen the limelight-but is the steel-bezelled 116520 still a watch worth having?
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This one was nicely written, you really have a gift for telling stories.
Audible should hire this guy
I only would buy it if they squeeze more lines of text on the dial.
@PabloFerroDesign You mean 'Swiss Made' ;-)
Looking forward to the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch watch
Yeah, at this point they might as well prind a small novel on their dials
:->
Knew a lot of this story already but you always seem to throw in some Easter Eggs I didn't know. Nice job.
“Every man and his dog coveted one” 😂
Videos educative as always, this being no exception, especially with the part where u educate briefly on Listerine... Thumbs up as always
I have this exact watch...and i will never sell it..ever!
So do I but looking at selling as prices are peaking ….
Sold it already?
The question is, can you?
Pay the 20%/25% over list resellers are asking for it, then yeah, you can.
@archie baldwin You are correct sir! I just took a peak on how much the new ceramic Daytonas are going for on the secondary market. I completely underestimated the resellers. Had no idea of the insane percentage gains these guys are making!! Geeez...
Yep whit credit card like everybody 😆
@@viriatvsoflvsitania5422 more like 200 - 225%
@@anotation2669 agree
Most Rolex watches are in a bubble! Highly inflated prices. But Rolex is smart, controlling the bubble by controlling supply and demand.
@@Classof-iu6yz It calls the "rational bubble".
Nonsense 🤦
@barchenko how so? I want to buy some rolexes
Rolex knows how to maintain it's brand, which is why any chump who has some disposable income will buy a rolex..thus demand is high..people perceive rolex as a wealth symbol..but these things don't last forever and the higher the inflation the lower they're going to fall eventually! And rolex can't keep the volume of their watches low forever because they're a mass market brand in the mid tier luxury segment..they won't end up making any money and only resellers will make huge profits..so something eventually will give..the bubble always goes pop! Especially when it's too big!
I'm thankful to have bought my white dial for the bubble price of $20K before the later bubble price of 23, 25, and now 28K
Longines, Movado, and Seiko made their own chronograph movements. Yeah, Movado...
Movado with Zenith I think🤔
@@enriqueparedespinel1694 Nope. Movado made an in-house chronograph, the M90 and variants, about 10 years before Zenith's first ever chronograph and about 20 years before Zenith's El Primero.
A great graduate thesis choice for a marketing student...
That blue lume shot .... incredible 😍
The bezel looks strangely matt/satin here when it’s usually polished and shiny like the rest of the case. It’s usually a bit of a scratch magnet so perhaps matt finish is the result of non-standard polishing. Quite like the matt look though.
The hands are scratched up. Seems that a watchmaker wasn't really carefull.. 🙈
Some Chinese guy in a basement
@@loopje must not be a guy in a basement. Unfortunately, there are enough "real" watchmakers out there, which don't really care about the customers watch. And then you get your watch back after a service and the hands or the case are more damaged then before the "service".
@@loopje funny thing is probably chinese probably own most of the daytonas nowadays.
Was probably like that from Rolex tbh
Watchmaker in rolex store scratched my clasp when he was extending link, so much about watchmakers...
"Like Apple"
True, but massive uproar in 3...2...1...
As an aspiring computer engineer who wants to go into SoC design I respectfully beg to differ. Apple has some of the best chip design on the market.
@@sohamray908 As an electrical and computer engineer, you have much to learn. Apple is and has always been about selling a 'lifestyle'. From a pure hardware point of view, they are not that cutting edge. Their 'chip design' is no more advanced then a dozen of other companies. Samsung is actually much more advanced with almost complete vertical integration in the technology area. From semi-conductor foundries to LCD manufacturing etc, Samsung has intimate expertise in all aspects. Where do you think Apple gets all their components? Their software is decent, but only from a UI and ease of use point of view. Apple basically uses off the shelf components that other have made and sells them are hugely inflated prices. Don't kid yourself.
bys2 in terms of performance per watt is Apple not an industry leader? Isn’t that the whole reasoning behind the transition to their own silicon? Isn’t there a reason they seem to squeeze more performance out of their hardware than they should be able to given capacity and thermal limitations? And beyond things like H1 that just make the user experience completely seamless?
bys2 id like to buy the SoCs that they use for their phones and tablets - if these are off the shelf components they buy from others, where can I purchase them It would be nifty to play around with them.
bys2 also I didn’t realize how vertically integrated Samsung was - I could have sworn they use Qualcomm chips in their flagships...
What a great video for the Rolex haters who really just can't afford one. Nice job Richemont!
Oooooooooh! (Clutches handbag).
Morning coffee and a new Watchfinder video. Nice start to the day and great video as always, Watchfinder, thank you.
6:17 " . . . Rolex was starting to look a little stupid" - that absolutely killed me lmao
Imagine being offered a Daytona at list from an AD with the hypothetical caveat that you could never sell it. Never. It’s yours for life. Sell it and you drop dead. In the contract. Can you really see £10,500 in that steel watch? Difficult to recalibrate your viewpoint when the hype is gone. In reality Rolex could double the list price overnight and still they’d queue around the block. Triple it maybe. A steel watch. Think about that. That’s the power of the brand. That’s the depth of our greed. Pathetic really - Haha! In 2020 you’d think we’d take our eye off the ball, but sadly no. We’re more hypnotised by this watch than ever before. Up and up it goes out of reach like a fairground balloon on the breeze. Full of helium, hype... but not much more. Those who get their hands on them can’t advertise them for resale fast enough. Sold on and on. Nobody wants to hold on for long. Get rid. Cash in. And who can really blame them?
Sounds like you’re trying very hard to feel better about not owning a Daytona 😂.
Give it a rest man, people who own Daytonas laugh at your sour grapes criticism.
I would wear it everyday and not resell. Id buy tomorrow if the list wasnt impossible
I would buy the steel one at list in a heartbeat. It's above all, a very nice watch.
That's just the thing. The people that own these watches are at the top of the list precisely because 10 grand isn't a big deal to them and they won't ever sell it, unless their heirs do. Rolex aren't interested in feeding grey market profiteers, or listening to people whinge about the watch being expensive. That's why most people will wait years, it is to shake loose the chancers and the unserious. If you are properly serious (and ADs usually can tell) you'll get your watch much quicker than the waiting lists would suggest.
The amount of gold used in a gold watch doest really reflect the extra cost over its steel version.
At the end of the day Rolex puts its money into marketing minor tweaks, Lange puts its money into the craft.
They are all simply watches, do you want to flex or do you want to marvel at a watch.
Even those that like rolex for the design also love the ego stroke of having ther watch recognised
Correct question: should you buy a rolex daytonna with x2 mrp?
If you have the money and you want one, then yes. And put your name on waiting lists too. Then sell it if you ever get the call.
I like the Daytona but double retail is a massive issue
@@fergulator7297 On one hand it's not a big issue because a Daytona will hold it's value, even if you pay 2x rrp. On the other hand there is a feeling of injustice that some people are able to buy them at rrp. But really most of those people will already have spent more than the difference on other watches or jewellery just to get on the list. If you get a Daytona at rrp without having a relationship with the AD, you are very lucky. I don't really have a problem with people getting lucky. There are lottery winners every day.
@@yetidh9 I'm in Australia,RRP of a Daytona is $18,500 and grey sellers selling brand new are asking $40,000 now,if you wear it you will more than likely lose some money,a used Daytona probably wouldn't fetch $40,000 AUD
scott fergs I get what you’re saying but when can you buy something brand new, use it, then expect to get all your money back? You’ll likely lose as much if you buy a brand new Seamaster at rrp.
We'll be glad to hear you covering the whole "race" for the 1st automatic chronograph (yep, Seiko included) at some point...
You know, untill the "triple split" video is ready at least...!
Seiko included? Of course. Hard to tell the story and leave out the winner.
Only reason it's disputed is because the ethnocentrism of the Swiss refused to acknowledge that Seiko releasing the watch to the public several months before Heuer (Zenith was 3rd, El Primero my ass...) because the release was in Japan.
@@dimman77 You have to be an absolute idiot to think that they didn't acknowledge Seiko for any other reason than marketing, just like Seiko didn't do too much of a buzz because they were marketing other products. Besides, it's actually highly disputed because we don't know exactly when the real Seiko release happened between early production and proper release.
Christ if it's not being gullible to blatant marketing garbage it's just random highly opinionated garbage.
@@ivanlagrossemoule Any particular reason that the COSC will not certify watches from Asia today? A logical, marketing reason? Or pure butt-hurt Swiss ethnocentrism?
I have a 116520 in white dial, I love it. the bracelet and bezel is a scratch magnet. I see myself reaching for it less and less lately but every once in a while it becomes my daily (mine ins mid 2010's from before this insanity so MSRP is what I paid and no wait list)
I’m not sure it’s the best time for me to drop twenty grand on a watch
Well, better now then in 5 years I suppose
That time was never. There are way better watches available.
@@tyrewald9083 Please define 'better'?
Bugster987 If i was to drop £20k on a watch it wouldn’t be on a Rolex. Although this one is very nice.
It is a matter of ones perspective. People do drop 27k $ (as of Oct 2020) for this or the panda. If someone can afford it without getting broke. All power to them. It is a beautiful watch. But I would get the speedmaster. It has more history than this. The Daytona was a rush to compete with Omega. And even the movement has been recently been totally under Rolex.
I even sat through the last advertisement that was 3 seconds before the video ended. That's a tribute, eh?
The pre-ceramic Daytona looks better than the current one.
No
Si.
@archie baldwin I may agree with you, but having a black dial is more important to me than having a black ceramic bezel and the current ceramic model with a black dial and black bezel just looks plain ugly, like one large black glob. If only they would come out with a ceramic bezel that is color-matched to the case along with a black dial that would be great.
I know it's picky but that blemish on the seconds hand at 4:40 would drive me crazy for a watch of this price
On the topic of Zenith chronograph movements and a reverse popularity sequence (hit in the 80s to no one caring now), how about a feature on the Don Johnson/Sonny Crocket Ebel chronograph?
The art of demand creation (finding the suckers)
098765432176 I think it’s more complicated then that because everyone would be doing it. You know what I mean? Just look at Omega snoopy edition, and you will see that Omega desperately wants to have as much hype surrounding their watches as Rolex.
Today’s unimaginable market magnetism for a Rolex is ENTIRELY down to the name NEWMAN. Paul Newman’s Watch has changed Rolex fortunes Forever
Yes, this video was the only thing I needed to decide to buy daytona, thanks
Dude, your videos are a treat.
1st a Russian Sturmanskie, 2nd Heuer, 3rd Breitling Navitimer Mod and then an Omega Speedmaster being the 4th watch in Space!
I know about the 1st & 4th, but not No. 2 & 3!
Great video, and storytelling. I always learn something new! Thanks and Cheers from Florida🤙
116520 is amazing. I love it more than the actual ceramic bezel
Ha... Joanne Woodward bought a hugh diamond for herself and was given a Daytona by the jeweler. She gave that to Paul:)
There is no finer narrator that I am aware of on any other watch channel . Staggeringly high quality photography as well . Thank you
The Rolex Daytona is waaaay over rate, especially as it does not have a date function. Breitling, the watches for pilots, engineers, scientists and even astronauts, has a much richer history and is much better in my opinion - Breitling Chronomat 44 all the way!
You’re totally spot on there 👍
Yep I’d have to agree. BUT, you’ll never get my hesalite Speedy off me...
The Daily Beater another Daytona beater for sure👍
Reason why "some" people buy Rolex is that the average person has heard of Rolex either through movies or clever products placement. Rolex after all was created buy a salesman. So the one thing they are really good at is brainwashing people with advertising.
Oh an the first dive watch was Blancpain not the Submariner ;-)
So yeah there are lot of brands with better history than Rolex.
But if you really like Rolex (and by chance also know how to use a tachymeter) then by God buy the Daytona and I will be happy for you.
Since I’ve held 3 of the jobs you mentioned, I will respectfully disagree. My 116500LN is my favorite watch, and that includes a chronomat and navitimer in the safe with others.
Is the Daytona white dial 116500LN a sound investment? Second-hand market was at $23k back in April, & now it’s up to $28k!!
I am on a wait list for the ceramic Daytona, it’s nice if you can wait. Some AD’s sell them for retail no markups, I was able to get my submariner new early this year from an AD for retail.
“Le Man.. I mean Daytona” actually laughed at that 😂 All jokes aside, I have owned a Speedmaster for the better part of a decade and I definitely want a Daytona too.
An important video. There always be less videos on the Rolex. Someone who wants to buy 1st or only luxury investment. Rolex videos help. So good video. But please make it a little less revolving angles in close up shots. So less headache and more focus on your message. And POV videos and or you holding it make it more appealing and gives an idea how they look, for potential buyers
Should I? Better question is “can I?” lol
How much is it?
nice watch if you can get your hands on one. kinda like a unicorn.
I paid £9.5k Mar 2018 for a 2001 white dial. A lot at the time but gone up in value since.
*Can You Buy A Rolex Daytona?
What about the damage on the minute hand? Very weird place... Maybe in a maintenance when they remove the hands?
...the watch definitely grew on society over the years!
you are a pretty cool guy ! some , MOST of us are unlikely to ever be able to afford these uber cool watches !
Luckily IMHO , we CAN buy these Watches as excellent fakes replete w/a swiss movement for less than $600 !
which is exactly what I intend to do ! I WILL have a exact copy I can wear and enjoy and frankly, I could care less if someone does not like it !
The greed and snobbery of ROLEX seems to know no bounds ! This is my small protest !
hope you do not mind ! @t LOL Jack
Gonna think twice before using listerine - in case they “accidentally” filled the bottle with floor cleaner instead...
The question is should you buy all the other AD stock you don't want or need just to potentially have a chance to buy a Daytona?
I’m a Rolex fan and I like the Daytona but it’s not even on my top list of models. Hype, hype, and more hype.
People want what they can’t have and this is the poster boy of can’t have.
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Can you please review the Breguet 7147?
Thank you!
Stopped looking for a Rolex (to actually use, not to invest) a couple of years ago after going to Switzerland and not finding any at retail. People should move on.
Another informative and entertaining video.Nice watch.
There are so many incredibly well made watches beyond Rolex and similarly overpriced brands. Review them.
I believe that these titles are the hands attempt at klickbait. I bet it worked, too.
@Ryder E Am I the only person who is repulsed by a large collection of precious metal Rolexes all lined up? Who the hell said more is more?
It's because rolex is the most sought after watch brand in the world. And it's because of that, I am here watching it (oh, I have one too. 😁). Any other brand, I would have skipped over it.
The video scripts are brilliant 😂 this episode in particular had me laughing out loud on multiple occasions 🔥
Crazy to remember a friend bought one at an AD for 20% off MSRP years ago.
The title should be changed to Can you get a Rolex Daytona?
I have a Speedmaster and an El Primero - MSRP on both combined don't even come close to MSRP on a Daytona. Heck, I have enough left over I could also add a nice Oris to the mix and be close to equal. I didn't have to wait for mine, either. So, 3 awesome watches, or 1 really average overpriced watch? Hmmm...
2:11 "More a company that consolidated other people's ideas, and had someone else make them. You know, like Apple." LMAO couldn't have said it any better.
or facebook google etc
"You know, like Apple." LMAO, ZIIING!
It’s a great shame you’ve decided to sell your soul to include adverts in the middle of these videos; the beginning and end weren’t enough. Completely ruins the flow of the narration. I’ll resubscribe if that changes.
Sold his soul? This whole channel exists to sell watches. It’s literally an exercise in marketing. Let me sit down and gather myself...OK ...So you object to a small advertisement that is interrupting the flow of the much larger advertisement? This is the offense that you equate to a bargain with satan?
If you prefer, replace ‘sell you soul’ with ‘sold out’. Generally they’re pretty informed videos about all sorts of watches and their history. I’ve never really seen them as advertisements, but ok. I hope you managed to gather yourself; very dramatic...
Orient Bambino Gen 2, Version 2 (white dial)
The watch industry is such a joke I’m getting turned off from the whole thing.
Watchfinder is pure class unlike other magazines who have created this Facebook like addiction to buying every new release that comes out.
Pick one great watch to buy and get on with your life. This is not a hobby it’s a addiction created by social media AKA Hodinkee
Exactly. I like to say "its not a hobby, its a spending problem."
No thanks
When you see Rolex in the video, you know the viewership has been dropping.
The answer to this question is easy.. "Do you like the watch" if the answer is no then don't buy it.. if you are there for short term investment, maybe.. long term.. not so sure Rolex IMHO are over-inflated on seconds market.
I always thought Listerine tasted like it could be floor cleaner. Maybe Pine-Sol would taste better and work as well? At least you'd have breath smelling like a pine forest instead of a floor cleaner smell. Hahahahaha
Comments are full of salty people who can't get a desirable Rolex so they have to rationalize how it's not worth it anyway. Hilarious trying to rationalize something that is a luxury mechanical watch to begin with.
kronikinsomniak There’s definitely not thing rational about Rolex nor other luxury watches. That’s what is amazing about them, they speak to people’s inner most desires.
@I value is subjective with mechanical watches. You could make the case that watches only have a novelty value in today's world. A mechanical watches in essence is inferior to any quartz. Basically its not worth it to your definition of value but the general market demand begs to differ.
tell me one reason why I must buy steel daytona over two tone daytona?
why is the minute hand so damaged? looks like its been removed with pliers!?
Daytona is sooo smol eventhough it looks big
So interesting as always!
I held the 116500LN a couple weeks ago wore it for about half an hour. Still could not imagine spending €25.000 on one tho...
The hands are scratched up. Seems that a watchmaker wasn't really carefull.. 🙈
Watchfinder is owned by Richemont, the same company that owns Lange, JLC, Panerai, IWC, and Vacheron. They deliberately don’t give the same care to other brands in their videos. This being said, Rolex’s quality could be better.
@@um8036 I don't think, that a watchmaker from Watchfinder did this to the watch (I hope so) and that they have just bought the watch in this condition...
I you’re not wrong 🤷🏼♂️
Never did like it..though its growing on me. I still do prefer the Tudor black bay chrono..round indices just get me
There are quite a few storied watches that Rolex make. The Daytona isn’t one of them. A watch famous for no other reason that it is hard to buy.
I get the 1988 "new chapter" Daytona, but why differentiate pre-ceramic Daytonas? I get the in-house movement being different, but there's no explanation as to WHY the Daytona "started" the Rolex growth in prestige more than the Sub did. I think a follow up video explanation is required.
I’ve got a mint 16520 white dial full set. I heard it’s now worth at least US$35,000 (€30,000)! Anyone can verify?
Chrono24.com
The correct qns should be, can you buy one?
2 videos in 1 week...what a treat! 🙌
$17m? Because it belonged to Paul Newman? Buying such a watch only shows what one lacks. People are so weird ...
Loved the blue lume shot, which I believe they only did for the last couple of years, looks much better than the green, I’d love a blue lume 116520 with an APH dial! 👍
My dream watch!
The question isn’t should, it’s can you, and more so if... and that’s the only reason i still have dreams
Listerine is a legend just like the Daytona!! 😂😂
I sure wish I had My Rolex Big Red Daytona....its an incredible timepiece and you would have to be foolish to ever turn one down...great Watch!!
What mug spent 17mil on a Daytona 😂
Most likely Rolex got that one
@@mrsmith8224 you could be right... You would naturally assume that someone with 17million to spend, wouldn't be dumb enough to buy an old Daytona at that price.
This would be my pick for best videography and best script of all Watchfinder videos. The glare-to-lume shot was gorgeous.
Just...No. I have no interest in the Daytona at all. I love my Submariners and Sea-Dwellers though.
Mike Lindbergh strangely, and meaning no insult, I’ve never had a hankering for a Sub eat all. I have no idea why, but they’ve just never appealed. That said, one of my absolute favourites is my Explorer 2. Go figure,
So you all make a ton of money with the used watch market and that's great (and I like your videos), you sell over £100M worth of watches per year, but "so that you can keep on making videos" you want us to subscribe? Somehow I don't think you will stop making watch videos or that your business is going to fail if we don't subscribe. That plea at the start of the video is really patronizing
Interesting. But still, if I came in possession of a Daytona I would sell and use the profits to buy El Primero.
Don't really care about the Daytona (mostly because I can't afford one), but your macro shots are excellent as always!
My dog has never wanted this watch.
Neither have I.
Really? Mine can't wait to get his paws on one
The problem is not if you should buy it, but if you COULD buy it!! The only timepiece that interests me about Rolex is this, but with its artisan watch policy that is not it is totally losing its charm as far as I'm concerned. At the same price at which I can buy a reseller Daytona, I prefer to give myself much more valuable watches. it's a shame because I would buy a daytona in the price list.
The same dilemma for me & owning 1 Patek. I can only afford one of their Nautilus.
The Daytona never had the class imo it always looked meh to me
I hate how it's famous for a function that nobody ever even uses. no date even. but it's such a classic and cliche watch that seems like everyone needs. I may buy one just for the sake of making a profit, which sounds horrible. Hence why I haven't yet.
"A racetrack that's famous ish." Are you serious? 🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
This reference re-shaped men's style to this day. It's already an icon, on its way to being a classic.