Holy crap, you are killing it. I am 57, 216 lbs and can barely stand on my 160 liter board. Only ridden it three times. But I managed to go from one wave to eleven a session in two weeks. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thanks Craig! It sounds like you are just starting out SUP surfing? After an unruly beginning, It comes quickly! I fell 100 times my first day on a 36" wide board!
I hear that! But some better than others. I am not really a tail surfer, I mostly just place my back foot over the side bites.... I wish I could stay on the stomper, but I never seem to get back far enough. These boards turn really well on a rail from the middle as well.
Which size/volume/shape board would you recommend for me please? I'm 105kg weight at 5ft 11inchs height. I'm certainly no pro and probably a intermediate paddle boarder skills. We don't get huge waves here in the Uk so mainly be riding 2-5 footers and would like to use it for general sea usage also.
Hi 1uke I sent you a reply, with a questionnaire that helps me get to know the specifics of a rider, which helps me work out the best board suggestions.
Hi Luis! "Corky" refers to a board that has too much volume in the center or at the sides that make a board float too high out of the water, so it feels as if you are balancing on a cork (a cork is the stopper on an old style wine or champagne bottle)
Here in Kiama, NSW now and will have to look for a Sunova. I haven’t surfed in 20 years but I know I can SUPPORT because for 30+ years I surfed whenever it was good on Cape Cod, up and down the east coast from the Cape to the other great Cape, Hatteras, (went to college in the late 60s & early 70s in North Carolina and hung out from Nags Head, Hatteras, Okracoke, and on into Florida, Daytona, Cocoa, etc. Moved to CA in ‘73 with surf bros and after 50+ years there my wife and I moved here where the Aussie born grandkids are and I thank the Great Spirit I’m still here alive and living in paradise, although it’s been raining for a week. Oh yeah, Sunova! Forgot wha5 were talking about! 75 later this year. I’m 6’ and 220 ,your size, so I’m looking for your 9’6 ‘cause my balance isn’t what it used to be. Love your vids bro! Rock on!
Hi Kevin Yewwwww, living all the great places! Sunova in NSW, see my friends at: Natural Necessity Surf Shop 115 Fern St 2534 Gerringong NSW Please tell them the "Creek" says hi! Check out my latest design... the GHOST - very stable and rips (see videos on my channel - click my name below this video) 9'6 x 34 at 171 liters 9'3 x 33 at 158 liters Any SUP questions, please ask anytime! supthecreek@gmail
Another great Creek video!! Perfectly timed for me since after much discussion with Creek I just ordered an 8'8" SP25 that has 13 liters more volume than my other boards. My hope is that the extra volume will add stability and the shape will allow more performance. As always, my optimism over a new board is boundless.😁
Hey rick, just wondering how this would feel different from a cruisersup that is 10'6 x 32 x 4.5 (185L)? I dont struggle to stay up unless it's really choppy but i am concerned that like a 9ft board might leave me feeling like day 1 again?
Length is always a nice stability feature, but that can be equalized in a smaller board by using design and width. You don't need to drop to a 9'1.... the 9'6 is 34" wide has 172 liters. The 9'6 has all the same magic as the 9'1, albeit less snappy. I am working on a 9'6 specific video because I ride it a lot when conditions are on the nasty side and have a blast. There is also 9'3 x 33 at 158 liters Please email me if you want to discuss deeper supthecreek@gmail.com
Yep - I have this discussion with mates all the time. They are so into design weight width rail shapes etc etc etc etc but in the end if its a well designed board that suits your size and ability then the need for more boards is really only about the size of your wallet. I'm 70 and currently ride a 10' 32" wide noserider (155 litres). Its my only board and the only real "limitation" is usually about getting through the shorebreak when the surf gets bigger. The great rail shape and tail design allows it to do a lot more than people expect. Just came back from a trip up the coast and surfed some really good point break waves with some decent size (4ft+) and the only time the size and volume was a real issue was when the board smashed into my shoulder after a mistimed floater on the end section. 4 weeks later, still waiting for to heal enough to get back into paddling.
Hi Pebbles Sounds like you are a very good surfer who could rip on any board and have found a happy place with a great board! Take care of that shoulder and get back after it soon! Having one good board can certainly make life easier and cover all the bases quite well, for sure. I like having options, particularly boards that are quite different and offer a change of pace. Mainly because I like to freshen the experience by surfing a 14' board after a few weeks on short SUPs.
My apologies - just read my first reply. I meant to say "no more than competent" rather than appear to big note myself as being "more than competent". Love your vids and your inspiration.
Great video. i have a custom 9x30 short board style sup , with thin rails. It can get unstable when it gets choppy and windy. Since I am quite tall, I sometimes fall in choppy conditions. I have a 10x30 Liard Longboard style sup that I use when it gets windy, that one is super stable.
Thanks Marc! I fall all the time on everything. I tell people that my exercise program is climbing back on to my SUP 🤣 The Laird is super stable, I had one years ago, nice board.... thank the Laird!!
Hi Adam There are so many variables, that an answer would be purely made up. Height, weight, experience, skill level..... board shape Previous board stats If you want a more accurate answer, email me at supthecreek@gmail.com I will send you a questionnaire that gets me the info I need to make a responsible recommendation
Oki!!!!! Long time my friend, I hope all is well in the wild 🤗 ha ha... there will be a video on fins soon! Main thing is to understand that every board and every rider is different, so a curious mind is an asset when researching your next board.
Thanks so much for posting this video. Just chock full or information for helping old timers like me to get out there, negate the naysayers and have some fun in the surf.
This is a Tricky Subject .. I think it takes years to understand about how it works and what it works with .. the way I look at it is What is it that I'm trying to gain? that is the real answer here people over think about volume I feel ... the answer to volume can only be answered by the rider and what conditions they like to surf in .... TO some it up SO when someone asked me about volume I straight up tell them Get a peace of paper and write down 3 of there most favorite boards, step 1. What they like and what they don't like about the board , take all that info and combine that into one and you will come up with a well rounded new Board design to ride .. take those answer and come up with 3 sections of the board the Nose , midsection and tail ... True story I did that to a Fish board I had my friend who shapes boards and it was a dream !!! it does everything I wanted it to do I couldn't believe it lol !!! So if someone is thinking of having a new board made try my idea out and let me know what you think ! I think it will help out a lot of people ... Happy surfing and Stay Salty everyone!! 🤙🏽
That is a great plan! I made this video just to counter balance the very strong opinions some folks try to pass off as Gospel: Like: NO board over 27" wide will ever surf well! So I put up video to show big wide boards can surf quite well, in hopes that people will seek out boards that they will enjoy.
Hi NZ... thanks for the awesome feedback, it is much appreciated! Summers coming! I frick'n loved NZ when I spent a month there! Such an amazing land and people.
Hi Feel, thanks for your comment and question! I am starting a new endeavor, with "How-to" videos call "Q-tips" Subscribe to my channel, then click my name above to see all my videos in one place. Keep an eye out for a video on transporting your SUPs!!!
Love it. Ya I've surfed lots of sizes. My smallest is 7'7" 82 liter which is damn near impossible. My daily is 110L pr shape. I still have a 10'6" 182 liter bic performer that I surf in huge surf. Not only is it super versatile with different fins, its indestructable, and I have probably surfed the biggest waves in a few hundred miles since I'm the only person that can get to those waves. The 175L sunova you showed looks awesome. Love the dome top.
I found the video and like many others feel way more informed. Surfing Texas on 10’6 Walden which is a pig to carry and turns like the titanic. I’m 57 and have been surfing my entire life and SUP meets me in the middle for experience and exercise. I’m confident I can step down and continue to learn. Thanks!!
Thanks Roy, I appreciate that! With the right board sizing down can be a great experience. Check out my latest video on my new design... the Ghost I have made some changes and I am waiting on the updated version... but the first version is really close to what I am after. I was designed with guys like you in mind... stay tuned for the next version and my full review somewhere around the end of August, early September.
Fantastic video! I am about to hit 60 and have tried SUP a couple of times and have now got an iSUP for the summer to see how I get on. Thing is, no, I´m not expecting to go out and hit the waves like a pro, but, in my younger years, I used to surf a 10´2 surfboard and used to get a few laughs from the kids (I was in ym 30s) but I was the one out on the waves whilst they sat on the each on their 6 footers watching, waiting, waiting, waiting and often, never got their board wet! Good on you for showing that everythign is possible!
Thank for your thoughts! Absolutely go for it... in waves a hard board is much easier than an ISUP, which I find almost impossible to surf. You will be amazed how quickly you adapt to paddling in ocean conditions and after a rather difficult beginning, surfing a SUP all of a sudden becomes possible... it's like unlocking the door and stepping into a new world! Go to my channel and go through some of my many videos and it will give you a good insight into some necessary details.
I’ve got the kanga 9’6, heavier guy. You’d have to try it to beleive it. Like you said at 167L and 33.5” wide it’s too high volume and too wide….yet it’s not. They got something really right with that line of boards and the way the rails stay engaged
Hi Sam.... I am glad you are stoked with your Kanga, it is such a good board! They have designed boards that surf exceptionally well at volumes and sizes that fit everyone from a World Tour Pro, to a first time SUP surfer..... in the same exact shape for both!
Thanks PG... you are very kind!! I have had the good fortune to surf way over 100 SUPs from 7'8 to 14' and each one teaches me something. That is simply a carryover from Surfing big logs in the early 60's, then working through the "Shortboard" revolution of the 70's You had to adapt to all the changes.
I'm 73 going through the same steps got three boards 8ft10 fanatic up to 9ft6 naish hokua gt 170 ltrs my thought pattern was getting older need a larger board the naish is loose in the surf but the fanatic is nice on certain days so it's not a simple question to get a clear precise answer some smaller sups are very similar to the longer ones in stability ahhhh who cares I love trying different boards keep on surfing
Also depends on what you define as a turn. In all honesty I am mainly doing half turns and “skatey” turns along the face . Nothing radical as the waves I go in rarely exceed 3ft
Hi GB... sorry I missed this, I bought a house in Florida for winters, and it is a TOTAL rehab special, so I have been pretty slack on keeping up with my channel. Turns are what you see them being.... to carve a hard rail turn, all you have to do is commit to one, and the magic will appear!
I've been looking at some of the other videos and I was looking for some kind of a nose rider. I found a video on the style board. I may have to look into that. I'm in Huntington Beach and looks like the only shop that carries those boards is in the Santa Monica.
There is just so much more than with and thickness. If you want to ride a wide bored then the tail needs to be pulled in to help it turn better. Plus what you said about the rail being wet is so important. If you need to add leaders but want to have a tourney board you must put that thickness into the center of the board and keep the rails thin enough to be able to dig them into the wave. The one thing I found helpful was finding the lowest amount of liters needed so that you don’t have to continually paddle. For my weight which is 210 I need at least 115 L to not have to keep paddling around in circles till I catch the wave. Also it seems like no matter what if the nose is pulled in the board just seems to be more responsive.
You have skills and a good shaper if you are comfortable on 115 L at 210 lbs! At 220 lbs I need 130 to 140 liters to be comfortable, although I do have boards with less.... and some of my favorites are as high as 177 liters. Board shape can be deceiving.... I have been surprised by some outlines and numbers that don't add up to stability. A good shaper knows how to supply the desired effect, so the proper board is key, not always the numbers
I know, right? I start a project like that and I have to go through lots of footage to get clear, easy to see clips.... and along the way, I find a lot of clips I need in other projects. I am easily sidetracked when doing something like this, so thanks for the bump! I'll try to finish something tonight..... fingers crossed that I can stay on task. 😏
Hi hquin I use the SoloShot3 Optic65 robo camera. It follows the GPS tag I wear on my arm and tracks me when I am surfing. That day it did not track at all, so I used footage from a fixed position. Since then I have learned the secrets to get it to track well all the time.
Hi Rick: Can you do a video on how you get to standing? I am 71 and Arthritic but I saw you have a unique way of getting up and I would like to see it close up and personal.
Hi Jerry... ha ha, yes, I do the "Creek-up" which is basically the same as holding on to a chair to get up from the floor. My right knee won't support me if I try to hop up with both legs, so I use my paddle for help. Thanks for the suggestion, I will make a video that explains how and what I do to.
Very informative and well produced video. Kudos! (Also fun to watch you surf!) I’m gonna quibble with you on one thing though. You weren’t really going rail to rail on your 34” board. You were making pivot turns off the tail. 34” boards don’t really go rail to rail as opposed to much narrower boards which can do a better job of it. Which leads me to my primary observation. Generally a narrower board will perform better than a wide board, and generally a wide board is more stable (less tippy) than a narrower board. And yes, rail shape and good design go a long way towards making a board paddle and surf well. Sunova has a great reputation. Cheers!
Hi Gary, thanks for watching! It may seem like a quibble, but to many, it is all they ever hear. You said ""Narrower boards will perform better than a wide board" For who? Young or fit and able surfers? What about the people who need a bit of width and comfort so that they can also enjoy SUP surfing? Will narrow perform better for them? I have spent years watching people on forums and SM telling people that wide boards don't turn. I believe this has hurt a lot of people that do not handle narrow boards well.... they buy what others say is "right" for them, and then they suffer. My goal is to inform SUPsters with video to back up the words and let them see/hear an alternative to "Wide boards don't surf well" Please read other replies to this video... it helps people understand that good surfing can happen when they get on a board that truly suits them. Not looking for an argument, just trying to serve up information that will benefit a lot of people who need an alternative to "smaller and narrow is the only way"
@@rickweeks Hi Rick. Remember I said, “generally” and I meant that. I totally agree with your main point which is “good surfing can happen when they get on a board that truly suits them”. Which implies that the consumer knows what they want. But the fact is that many people (especially beginners) don’t know what suits them and that is up to them to find out. So, for a beginner I would suggest a wider than narrower board with more stability on which to learn how to paddle and surf. (SUPing is a lot more fun when you’re not falling off all the time.) And for a more experienced paddler/surfer I might recommend a narrower board if surfing is the primary thing they wanted to do. With experience and research comes knowledge. Knowledge applied with practice enhances experience which should help people get what suits them. Yes, wide boards do turn, you proved that. But not rail to rail. But maybe that’s not what the buyer wants. Turning off the tail is fun and will yield some fun satisfying rides. But I will say that me at 155pounds vs. you at 220 is gonna have a much rougher go turning that 34” beast. That’s why my 11’8” L41 Fleetwood (with well designed rails) is only 30” wide. Paddles and surfs like a dream!🥳
@@garyniblock8864 I agree... each person is a different case. I would never expect that a 155 lb rider would be looking for a 34" wide board.... that board was used to show there are boards that offer stability and performance for those who need a bigger board (which is anything but a "beast") I consult SUPsters from all over the world daily. (at no cost, I just enjoy doing it) I have created in depth questionnaires to learn as much as possible about each individual before entering any board discussions. Then we go deep into their particular desires and goals. My goal is to never lead someone to a board they will regret... it is a big investment for many, so the little details count.
Good one Rick. Interesting about the rail shape and design which keeps the rails wet. Good to keep in mind. I rode a sp25 8’3” (perhaps a custom) and loved it. Felt super responsive. Wish I could afford one.
Nicely done Rick, laying down some wisdom in this one. On the way down to lower volume/narrow boards you forget how much you trade off stability for lazy control over a board. It's great to be able to manhandle the thing around in performance conditions but on the days that I jump back on my 31 wide board I notice just how much more relaxing the session is. I may have to be more active with my feet when I'm on the wave but that breeds good technique and I'm happy about that too.
Hey Kingsley, how are you? The nice thing about the SP25 is that you never have to manhandle it... it surfs easily in all my sizes, in fact the 9'5 is a pure joy to surf any time! My favorite is the 8'8 but I grab the 9'5 for more sessions because it suits so many conditions. and as you say.... super relaxing is good! Add snappy performance and you have it all!
@@rickweeks 😁 is a bit crisp in the morning down this way but i shouldn't complain about that to you. How's things in your world? you're looking pretty fit dancing around on those summer waves. We've had a delayed start to nice winter swell this year, just started our first week of clean long period off shore. Up until now it's been feast or famine with the storm swells or gutless chop. ½ of the sand at rainbow beach disappeared in the last storm so if you wanna get the the point it's a trip through fresh water track and you know how much fun that is 😅 but I'm still getting wet so I ain't complaining 😉
@@ManOfSauce ha ha, I've been in that outback... heck I had to save a camel caravan when it got stuck! Bring plenty of water and Crocodile Dundee! We are in our summer small clean wave season and it has been plenty of fun. The 9'5 SP25 has gotten more than it's share of sessions 😊
Hi Kent, Since the nose of the ONE doesn't have a lot of "kick", the you run the risk of pushing the nose under.... at the very least, you will slow the board down and fall out of trim. Best way to get a good turn is move your back foot from side to side (right side to turn right) and lean back a little for a solid turn, then shift your weight back more onto the front foot. Heres a link to an old video I did on footwork, it gives a good look at exactly what my feet are doing on a wave ruclips.net/video/G-qB8_uZLuY/видео.html
Great vid rick. I think a lot of people regurgitate what they hear other people say in terms of board specs or performance without having real world experience. To me it depends so much on conditions.. choppy vs glassy etc .In terms of width and volume it is a very individual thing based on preference and skill level. Case in point… that little bit of glide you lose when going from say a 28” wide board to a 32” board will often times be countered by the ability to get a much more powerful paddle stroke because you are able to transfer that energy into your upper body vs using it to try and stay upright on shaky legs😂. Sometimes wider is better in terms of catching waves and even carving if you are more comfortable and relaxed. I also tend to prefer slightly heavier boards for longboard style surfing because they ride so much smoother of bumps and chop and generally seem more composed and I only mentioned that because the thing nowadays seems to be to go as light as possible in materials and construction. Now for dropping in on steeper stuff i do like a lighter shorter board but again, this is all my personal Preference and it will vary from person to person obviously. All my SUP surf boards are at least 32 wide with the exception of my 14 ft search model.
Thanks HR, You are absolutely correct... each person is different in everything from age, to size, experience, location and desires. That's why I get so amazed when people go on Social Media making statements like "No board over 27" wide will surf well" That may be true for them, but there are far more people that like or need more width for their personal situation. I have found that wide boards can be completely amazing ☺
@@rickweeks you will “almost” never see someone surfing a 27 or 28 wide board here on the Gulf of Mex where i live simply because we get so much wind and chop, it’s just not feasible and glassy conditions are rare except for a few days out of the year.
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Holy crap, you are killing it. I am 57, 216 lbs and can barely stand on my 160 liter board. Only ridden it three times. But I managed to go from one wave to eleven a session in two weeks. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thanks Craig!
It sounds like you are just starting out SUP surfing?
After an unruly beginning, It comes quickly!
I fell 100 times my first day on a 36" wide board!
It’s not the bus it’s the driver
Well done! Good info, good video, good surfing! I enjoy watching.
Thanks Peter, I appreciate that!
I reckon as long as you can get back on the tail most boards turn well, it's all about that foot position!!!
I hear that!
But some better than others.
I am not really a tail surfer, I mostly just place my back foot over the side bites.... I wish I could stay on the stomper, but I never seem to get back far enough.
These boards turn really well on a rail from the middle as well.
i find well designed boards turn from almost anywhere and ordinary boards are very fussy ;)
Which size/volume/shape board would you recommend for me please? I'm 105kg weight at 5ft 11inchs height. I'm certainly no pro and probably a intermediate paddle boarder skills. We don't get huge waves here in the Uk so mainly be riding 2-5 footers and would like to use it for general sea usage also.
Hi 1uke
I sent you a reply, with a questionnaire that helps me get to know the specifics of a rider, which helps me work out the best board suggestions.
Great video, thrully inspirational !!
Thank You Kabindas, much appreciated!
👋 what means "corky"? (not my main language)
Hi Luis!
"Corky" refers to a board that has too much volume in the center or at the sides that make a board float too high out of the water, so it feels as if you are balancing on a cork (a cork is the stopper on an old style wine or champagne bottle)
Here in Kiama, NSW now and will have to look for a Sunova. I haven’t surfed in 20 years but I know I can SUPPORT because for 30+ years I surfed whenever it was good on Cape Cod, up and down the east coast from the Cape to the other great Cape, Hatteras, (went to college in the late 60s & early 70s in North Carolina and hung out from Nags Head, Hatteras, Okracoke, and on into Florida, Daytona, Cocoa, etc. Moved to CA in ‘73 with surf bros and after 50+ years there my wife and I moved here where the Aussie born grandkids are and I thank the Great Spirit I’m still here alive and living in paradise, although it’s been raining for a week. Oh yeah, Sunova! Forgot wha5 were talking about! 75 later this year. I’m 6’ and 220 ,your size, so I’m looking for your 9’6 ‘cause my balance isn’t what it used to be. Love your vids bro! Rock on!
Hi Kevin
Yewwwww, living all the great places!
Sunova in NSW, see my friends at:
Natural Necessity Surf Shop
115 Fern St
2534 Gerringong
NSW
Please tell them the "Creek" says hi!
Check out my latest design... the GHOST - very stable and rips (see videos on my channel - click my name below this video)
9'6 x 34 at 171 liters
9'3 x 33 at 158 liters
Any SUP questions, please ask anytime!
supthecreek@gmail
Another great Creek video!! Perfectly timed for me since after much discussion with Creek I just ordered an 8'8" SP25 that has 13 liters more volume than my other boards. My hope is that the extra volume will add stability and the shape will allow more performance. As always, my optimism over a new board is boundless.😁
Thanks John!
You are going to be so stoked .... yewwwwwww!
Great video!! I love my SP25 8’8”!! With the help of you and your videos I was able to pick it out! Thank you Rick
Thanks Savage!
Stoked you got yourself an 8'8 SP25... sick board, yewwwwww!
I appreciate that you let me know that the vids helped 😊🙏
Hey rick, just wondering how this would feel different from a cruisersup that is 10'6 x 32 x 4.5 (185L)?
I dont struggle to stay up unless it's really choppy but i am concerned that like a 9ft board might leave me feeling like day 1 again?
Length is always a nice stability feature, but that can be equalized in a smaller board by using design and width.
You don't need to drop to a 9'1.... the 9'6 is 34" wide has 172 liters.
The 9'6 has all the same magic as the 9'1, albeit less snappy. I am working on a 9'6 specific video because I ride it a lot when conditions are on the nasty side and have a blast.
There is also 9'3 x 33 at 158 liters
Please email me if you want to discuss deeper
supthecreek@gmail.com
Yep - I have this discussion with mates all the time. They are so into design weight width rail shapes etc etc etc etc but in the end if its a well designed board that suits your size and ability then the need for more boards is really only about the size of your wallet.
I'm 70 and currently ride a 10' 32" wide noserider (155 litres). Its my only board and the only real "limitation" is usually about getting through the shorebreak when the surf gets bigger. The great rail shape and tail design allows it to do a lot more than people expect.
Just came back from a trip up the coast and surfed some really good point break waves with some decent size (4ft+) and the only time the size and volume was a real issue was when the board smashed into my shoulder after a mistimed floater on the end section.
4 weeks later, still waiting for to heal enough to get back into paddling.
Hi Pebbles
Sounds like you are a very good surfer who could rip on any board and have found a happy place with a great board!
Take care of that shoulder and get back after it soon!
Having one good board can certainly make life easier and cover all the bases quite well, for sure.
I like having options, particularly boards that are quite different and offer a change of pace.
Mainly because I like to freshen the experience by surfing a 14' board after a few weeks on short SUPs.
My apologies - just read my first reply. I meant to say "no more than competent" rather than appear to big note myself as being "more than competent". Love your vids and your inspiration.
@@pebblesofsand2008 Thanks my friend!
This is an amazing sport we are in 😊
The end of your video says life is good when you’re on the right board.
Life is good when you’re on any board🤙🤙
True DAT! 😃
Great video. i have a custom 9x30 short board style sup , with thin rails. It can get unstable when it gets choppy and windy. Since I am quite tall, I sometimes fall in choppy conditions. I have a 10x30 Liard Longboard style sup that I use when it gets windy, that one is super stable.
Thanks Marc!
I fall all the time on everything.
I tell people that my exercise program is climbing back on to my SUP 🤣
The Laird is super stable, I had one years ago, nice board.... thank the Laird!!
Thank you for always sharing the stoke, my friend. 🤙🏽
Thanks for watching and returning the stoke Arron!!!!
Where do I buy the 177litter board? Can’t find it anywhere.
Hi Jaq
Please email me at
supthecreek@gmail.com
I will get you to the right place to order one
Hey Rick, in your opinion how hard would a 9.2 x 29 3/4 130L board be for someome coming from a 10.6
Hi Adam
There are so many variables, that an answer would be purely made up.
Height, weight, experience, skill level..... board shape
Previous board stats
If you want a more accurate answer, email me at supthecreek@gmail.com
I will send you a questionnaire that gets me the info I need to make a responsible recommendation
@@rickweeks Will do that, appreciate the reply.
It's all a bit silly. Especially when the discussion turns to fins 🙂 Good video, Rick.
Oki!!!!!
Long time my friend, I hope all is well in the wild 🤗
ha ha... there will be a video on fins soon!
Main thing is to understand that every board and every rider is different, so a curious mind is an asset when researching your next board.
haha, big time
Thanks so much for posting this video. Just chock full or information for helping old timers like me to get out there, negate the naysayers and have some fun in the surf.
This is a Tricky Subject .. I think it takes years to understand about how it works and what it works with .. the way I look at it is What is it that I'm trying to gain? that is the real answer here people over think about volume I feel ... the answer to volume can only be answered by the rider and what conditions they like to surf in ....
TO some it up
SO when someone asked me about volume I straight up tell them Get a peace of paper and write down 3 of there most favorite boards, step 1. What they like and what they don't like about the board , take all that info and combine that into one and you will come up with a well rounded new Board design to ride .. take those answer and come up with 3 sections of the board the Nose , midsection and tail ...
True story I did that to a Fish board I had my friend who shapes boards and it was a dream !!! it does everything I wanted it to do I couldn't believe it lol !!! So if someone is thinking of having a new board made try my idea out and let me know what you think ! I think it will help out a lot of people ...
Happy surfing and Stay Salty everyone!! 🤙🏽
That is a great plan!
I made this video just to counter balance the very strong opinions some folks try to pass off as Gospel:
Like:
NO board over 27" wide will ever surf well!
So I put up video to show big wide boards can surf quite well, in hopes that people will seek out boards that they will enjoy.
smashed it rick. thats the best vid to date. everything bert tells us that so few others do .. :)
Hi NZ... thanks for the awesome feedback, it is much appreciated!
Summers coming! I frick'n loved NZ when I spent a month there! Such an amazing land and people.
@@rickweeks come anytime , we can do some vids
@@chaiguy_nz9064 thanks chaiguy... if only the plane tickets were in my budget. I'd love to revisit NZ and OZ!
What camera do you use? Does it follow you in the water?
Good stuff brother on my bigger stuff over 9 foot it seems like I’m stepping back to make that thing run more effectively and lo and behold I am LOL
Medieval… great name!
Moving around on any bigger board is key to applying leverage where it will do the most good!
I still cant get over how good the surf gets up your way Rick. I haven't seen a "clean" glassy wave here in Panama City Beach in months.
Hi Hr
I hear that!
Thanks for watching 🙂
I am so stoked to get back to Cape Cod and good sandbars after a long winter in Florida!
I am enjoying watching your video. Can you tell us how you carry your boards and equipment in your vehicle?
Hi Feel, thanks for your comment and question!
I am starting a new endeavor, with "How-to" videos call "Q-tips"
Subscribe to my channel, then click my name above to see all my videos in one place.
Keep an eye out for a video on transporting your SUPs!!!
Love it. Ya I've surfed lots of sizes. My smallest is 7'7" 82 liter which is damn near impossible. My daily is 110L pr shape. I still have a 10'6" 182 liter bic performer that I surf in huge surf. Not only is it super versatile with different fins, its indestructable, and I have probably surfed the biggest waves in a few hundred miles since I'm the only person that can get to those waves. The 175L sunova you showed looks awesome. Love the dome top.
Thanks Reg... yup, switching up sizes and shapes keeps it interesting for sure!
I found the video and like many others feel way more informed. Surfing Texas on 10’6 Walden which is a pig to carry and turns like the titanic. I’m 57 and have been surfing my entire life and SUP meets me in the middle for experience and exercise. I’m confident I can step down and continue to learn. Thanks!!
Thanks Roy, I appreciate that!
With the right board sizing down can be a great experience.
Check out my latest video on my new design... the Ghost
I have made some changes and I am waiting on the updated version... but the first version is really close to what I am after.
I was designed with guys like you in mind... stay tuned for the next version and my full review somewhere around the end of August, early September.
Fantastic video! I am about to hit 60 and have tried SUP a couple of times and have now got an iSUP for the summer to see how I get on. Thing is, no, I´m not expecting to go out and hit the waves like a pro, but, in my younger years, I used to surf a 10´2 surfboard and used to get a few laughs from the kids (I was in ym 30s) but I was the one out on the waves whilst they sat on the each on their 6 footers watching, waiting, waiting, waiting and often, never got their board wet! Good on you for showing that everythign is possible!
Thank for your thoughts!
Absolutely go for it... in waves a hard board is much easier than an ISUP, which I find almost impossible to surf.
You will be amazed how quickly you adapt to paddling in ocean conditions and after a rather difficult beginning, surfing a SUP all of a sudden becomes possible... it's like unlocking the door and stepping into a new world!
Go to my channel and go through some of my many videos and it will give you a good insight into some necessary details.
I’ve got the kanga 9’6, heavier guy. You’d have to try it to beleive it. Like you said at 167L and 33.5” wide it’s too high volume and too wide….yet it’s not. They got something really right with that line of boards and the way the rails stay engaged
Hi Sam.... I am glad you are stoked with your Kanga, it is such a good board!
They have designed boards that surf exceptionally well at volumes and sizes that fit everyone from a World Tour Pro, to a first time SUP surfer..... in the same exact shape for both!
It’s amazing how well you can surf that beast with 170 liters
Hi Joe
Thanks!
It's actually piece of cake... it is so flowing and loose!
Shows what can happen when all that volume is correctly placed 😀
I’m thinking this guy could sup surf anything.
Thanks PG... you are very kind!!
I have had the good fortune to surf way over 100 SUPs from 7'8 to 14' and each one teaches me something.
That is simply a carryover from Surfing big logs in the early 60's, then working through the "Shortboard" revolution of the 70's
You had to adapt to all the changes.
I'm 73 going through the same steps got three boards 8ft10 fanatic up to 9ft6 naish hokua gt 170 ltrs my thought pattern was getting older need a larger board the naish is loose in the surf but the fanatic is nice on certain days so it's not a simple question to get a clear precise answer some smaller sups are very similar to the longer ones in stability ahhhh who cares I love trying different boards keep on surfing
Quivers work!
Each session cries out for one of the boards on the rack, so I grab it and go!
Keep charging Bernadette!
Nice video. Thanks for the info, I'm looking for an sup.
Thanks Gus!
If you have any questions, please ask!
supthecreek@gmail.com
Also depends on what you define as a turn. In all honesty I am mainly doing half turns and “skatey” turns along the face . Nothing radical as the waves I go in rarely exceed 3ft
Hi GB... sorry I missed this, I bought a house in Florida for winters, and it is a TOTAL rehab special, so I have been pretty slack on keeping up with my channel.
Turns are what you see them being.... to carve a hard rail turn, all you have to do is commit to one, and the magic will appear!
You re right. The width of the tail has a high influence.
I got a source 8.5 with a big square tail, you feel it in rail to rail transition.
Thanks Jerome, each board has it's own personality and must be explored to make any judgement.
I’ve always liked higher volume boards too… and I don’t mind a bit of weight! They just seem more planted on the water to me.
Wow... I don't know how I missed your comment!
It is pretty interesting how much fun you can have on boards everyone says won't work 😊
I've been looking at some of the other videos and I was looking for some kind of a nose rider.
I found a video on the style board. I may have to look into that. I'm in Huntington Beach and looks like the only shop that carries those boards is in the Santa Monica.
Hi Gus
If you have any questions on the Style, please email me
supthecreek@gmail.com
The Style is an amazing noserider... it's almost like cheating🙂
i don't sup but i like these videos.i'm going to shape a wide prone paddle board thanks for the video
Hi Joe
Thanks for the great feedback!
Have fun shaping the new stick, sounds like a fun project
There is just so much more than with and thickness. If you want to ride a wide bored then the tail needs to be pulled in to help it turn better. Plus what you said about the rail being wet is so important. If you need to add leaders but want to have a tourney board you must put that thickness into the center of the board and keep the rails thin enough to be able to dig them into the wave. The one thing I found helpful was finding the lowest amount of liters needed so that you don’t have to continually paddle. For my weight which is 210 I need at least 115 L to not have to keep paddling around in circles till I catch the wave. Also it seems like no matter what if the nose is pulled in the board just seems to be more responsive.
You have skills and a good shaper if you are comfortable on 115 L at 210 lbs!
At 220 lbs I need 130 to 140 liters to be comfortable, although I do have boards with less.... and some of my favorites are as high as 177 liters.
Board shape can be deceiving.... I have been surprised by some outlines and numbers that don't add up to stability.
A good shaper knows how to supply the desired effect, so the proper board is key, not always the numbers
Hey Rick, very nice video, the 8’11 how much wide inches has?
Thank you Rogerio!
SP25 8'11 x 32.25" at 150 liters
If you have any other questions, please ask!
Great job with the video Creek. Hope to see you in Sept at Surf Expo... 😎👍
Hey JD!
Thank you my friend!
I will not be at the September version... but I'll see you in January if you are there as well!
Great video Rick! Can't wait to surf with you again.
Hi Austin!
Thanks for the stoke 🤗
I hope you are getting some of this swell.
We have to meet up for a session soon!
Great video & surfing!
Where is this break?
Thanks You Tube ( score on the name!)
These sessions were at Cape Cod Massachusetts, USA (close as I come to naming breaks 😀)
Awesome! Where is your area? I wanna go to there to SUP.
Thanks Giacomo!
I live on Cape Cod, land of the Great White Sharks... and the occasional good waves!
Still waiting for video on how you get up.
I know, right?
I start a project like that and I have to go through lots of footage to get clear, easy to see clips.... and along the way, I find a lot of clips I need in other projects.
I am easily sidetracked when doing something like this, so thanks for the bump!
I'll try to finish something tonight..... fingers crossed that I can stay on task. 😏
Cool beans, Rickey! Aloha from theNetherlands!! Peace, Creeker Rob hehe
Hi Rob!
How SUP life in the flatlands?
I hope you are getting some warm waves this summer 😀
@@rickweeks "France" is the word for us Dutchies when withdrawal symptoms occur. You'd love the food there mate!!! Stay stoked, STC! ^^ peace
Pretty interesting video and a nice quiver!!!!!
Thanks Paradise.... and yeah, I'm amazingly stoked to have the boards to ride, study and learn!!!
What kind of camera is that on the tripod sir?
Hi hquin
I use the SoloShot3 Optic65 robo camera.
It follows the GPS tag I wear on my arm and tracks me when I am surfing.
That day it did not track at all, so I used footage from a fixed position.
Since then I have learned the secrets to get it to track well all the time.
Hi Rick: Can you do a video on how you get to standing? I am 71 and Arthritic but I saw you have a unique way of getting up and I would like to see it close up and personal.
Hi Jerry... ha ha, yes, I do the "Creek-up" which is basically the same as holding on to a chair to get up from the floor.
My right knee won't support me if I try to hop up with both legs, so I use my paddle for help.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will make a video that explains how and what I do to.
@@rickweeks super. Thank you.
Very informative and well produced video. Kudos! (Also fun to watch you surf!) I’m gonna quibble with you on one thing though. You weren’t really going rail to rail on your 34” board. You were making pivot turns off the tail. 34” boards don’t really go rail to rail as opposed to much narrower boards which can do a better job of it. Which leads me to my primary observation. Generally a narrower board will perform better than a wide board, and generally a wide board is more stable (less tippy) than a narrower board. And yes, rail shape and good design go a long way towards making a board paddle and surf well. Sunova has a great reputation. Cheers!
Hi Gary, thanks for watching!
It may seem like a quibble, but to many, it is all they ever hear.
You said ""Narrower boards will perform better than a wide board"
For who? Young or fit and able surfers?
What about the people who need a bit of width and comfort so that they can also enjoy SUP surfing?
Will narrow perform better for them?
I have spent years watching people on forums and SM telling people that wide boards don't turn.
I believe this has hurt a lot of people that do not handle narrow boards well.... they buy what others say is "right" for them, and then they suffer.
My goal is to inform SUPsters with video to back up the words and let them see/hear an alternative to "Wide boards don't surf well"
Please read other replies to this video... it helps people understand that good surfing can happen when they get on a board that truly suits them.
Not looking for an argument, just trying to serve up information that will benefit a lot of people who need an alternative to "smaller and narrow is the only way"
@@rickweeks Hi Rick. Remember I said, “generally” and I meant that. I totally agree with your main point which is “good surfing can happen when they get on a board that truly suits them”. Which implies that the consumer knows what they want. But the fact is that many people (especially beginners) don’t know what suits them and that is up to them to find out. So, for a beginner I would suggest a wider than narrower board with more stability on which to learn how to paddle and surf. (SUPing is a lot more fun when you’re not falling off all the time.) And for a more experienced paddler/surfer I might recommend a narrower board if surfing is the primary thing they wanted to do. With experience and research comes knowledge. Knowledge applied with practice enhances experience which should help people get what suits them. Yes, wide boards do turn, you proved that. But not rail to rail. But maybe that’s not what the buyer wants. Turning off the tail is fun and will yield some fun satisfying rides. But I will say that me at 155pounds vs. you at 220 is gonna have a much rougher go turning that 34” beast. That’s why my 11’8” L41 Fleetwood (with well designed rails) is only 30” wide. Paddles and surfs like a dream!🥳
@@garyniblock8864 I agree... each person is a different case.
I would never expect that a 155 lb rider would be looking for a 34" wide board.... that board was used to show there are boards that offer stability and performance for those who need a bigger board (which is anything but a "beast")
I consult SUPsters from all over the world daily. (at no cost, I just enjoy doing it)
I have created in depth questionnaires to learn as much as possible about each individual before entering any board discussions.
Then we go deep into their particular desires and goals.
My goal is to never lead someone to a board they will regret... it is a big investment for many, so the little details count.
Good one Rick. Interesting about the rail shape and design which keeps the rails wet. Good to keep in mind. I rode a sp25 8’3” (perhaps a custom) and loved it. Felt super responsive. Wish I could afford one.
Thanks Sean!
Any GenRation or Sunova can be made at any length (with-in the normal range) at no extra charge
What is the price on a sp25 picked up somewhere in the northeast?
@@seanchristopherross it depends exactly where you are, please contact me by email
supthecreek@gmail.com
Nicely done Rick, laying down some wisdom in this one.
On the way down to lower volume/narrow boards you forget how much you trade off stability for lazy control over a board. It's great to be able to manhandle the thing around in performance conditions but on the days that I jump back on my 31 wide board I notice just how much more relaxing the session is. I may have to be more active with my feet when I'm on the wave but that breeds good technique and I'm happy about that too.
Hey Kingsley, how are you?
The nice thing about the SP25 is that you never have to manhandle it... it surfs easily in all my sizes, in fact the 9'5 is a pure joy to surf any time!
My favorite is the 8'8 but I grab the 9'5 for more sessions because it suits so many conditions.
and as you say.... super relaxing is good! Add snappy performance and you have it all!
@@rickweeks 😁 is a bit crisp in the morning down this way but i shouldn't complain about that to you. How's things in your world? you're looking pretty fit dancing around on those summer waves.
We've had a delayed start to nice winter swell this year, just started our first week of clean long period off shore. Up until now it's been feast or famine with the storm swells or gutless chop. ½ of the sand at rainbow beach disappeared in the last storm so if you wanna get the the point it's a trip through fresh water track and you know how much fun that is 😅 but I'm still getting wet so I ain't complaining 😉
@@ManOfSauce ha ha, I've been in that outback... heck I had to save a camel caravan when it got stuck!
Bring plenty of water and Crocodile Dundee!
We are in our summer small clean wave season and it has been plenty of fun.
The 9'5 SP25 has gotten more than it's share of sessions 😊
Rick is it a bad habit to use my front foot to jam the rail down to get a sharp turn on my Sunova one?
Hi Kent,
Since the nose of the ONE doesn't have a lot of "kick", the you run the risk of pushing the nose under.... at the very least, you will slow the board down and fall out of trim.
Best way to get a good turn is move your back foot from side to side (right side to turn right) and lean back a little for a solid turn, then shift your weight back more onto the front foot.
Heres a link to an old video I did on footwork, it gives a good look at exactly what my feet are doing on a wave
ruclips.net/video/G-qB8_uZLuY/видео.html
@@rickweeks thank you Rick ! Your advice is always much appreciated.
@@rickweeks So cool of you to take the time to explain this, STC
Great vid rick. I think a lot of people regurgitate what they hear other people say in terms of board specs or performance without having real world experience. To me it depends so much on conditions.. choppy vs glassy etc .In terms of width and volume it is a very individual thing based on preference and skill level. Case in point… that little bit of glide you lose when going from say a 28” wide board to a 32” board will often times be countered by the ability to get a much more powerful paddle stroke because you are able to transfer that energy into your upper body vs using it to try and stay upright on shaky legs😂. Sometimes wider is better in terms of catching waves and even carving if you are more comfortable and relaxed. I also tend to prefer slightly heavier boards for longboard style surfing because they ride so much smoother of bumps and chop and generally seem more composed and I only mentioned that because the thing nowadays seems to be to go as light as possible in materials and construction. Now for dropping in on steeper stuff i do like a lighter shorter board but again, this is all my personal
Preference and it will vary from person to person obviously. All my SUP surf boards are at least 32 wide with the exception of my 14 ft search model.
Thanks HR,
You are absolutely correct... each person is different in everything from age, to size, experience, location and desires.
That's why I get so amazed when people go on Social Media making statements like "No board over 27" wide will surf well"
That may be true for them, but there are far more people that like or need more width for their personal situation.
I have found that wide boards can be completely amazing ☺
@@rickweeks you will “almost” never see someone surfing a 27 or 28 wide board here on the Gulf of Mex where i live simply because we get so much wind and chop, it’s just not feasible and glassy conditions are rare except for a few days out of the year.
@@hrburrell7587 The wee folks will but then most of us are not the "wee folks" ☺
@@rickweeks exactly 😆😆
Interesting , as always. Thanks Rick
Hi AP... thank you!
How have you been? Surf been good to you?
@@rickweeks to be honest global warming is creatinv good conditions..for surfing that is..
@@anchorpoint5871 Bring it! I like Palm trees... they would look awesome on Cape Cod 😊
Good onya Ricky 👍
Thanks Dave!