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  • Опубликовано: 4 мар 2021
  • In the Mystery of The Nevada Triangle we look into the strange circumstances behind why there have been so many unexplained air crashes in one of the most beautiful places in America, the sierra Nevada.
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  • @publicenemynumerouno
    @publicenemynumerouno 2 года назад +106

    The search actually turned up other aircraft that had wrecked as far back as 40 years earlier that had never been located before.

    • @Vespyr_
      @Vespyr_ 2 года назад +21

      Surprising what you can find when who you're looking for is rich.

    • @shaunwheeler3484
      @shaunwheeler3484 2 года назад +34

      @@Vespyr_ Absolutely. When JFK Jr flew himself and his passengers into the ocean the US sent out the US Navy to locate and recover his aircraft. If you or I wrecked we'd we be lucky to get a drone overflight.

    • @Vespyr_
      @Vespyr_ 2 года назад +15

      @@shaunwheeler3484 It's pretty disgusting, to be honest.

    • @Veldtian1
      @Veldtian1 2 года назад +11

      @@shaunwheeler3484 Yeah you mean when Hillary's bomb went off and killed Jr, yeah he was going to run against her for that New York senate seat..

    • @horacesawyer2487
      @horacesawyer2487 2 года назад +4

      @Prof. Weed : there wasn't any storm. Only poor visibility marine fog murk conditions.
      He became spatially disorientated, according to his flight path. He was not a qualified instrument rated pilot and had only recently purchased that airplane. Turned down a safety pilot who volunteered to go along. Was having problems with his wife and upset. Running late to the airport and being yelled at. Yes, one leg in a cast as he hoisted himself on the wing and slid into the seat. The flight was fine as long as it was on autopilot. But when he began the descent for Martha's Vineyard at some point he could not differentiate between the blackness of the ocean and the night murky sky, and where the two met. He had no visual contact with MVY. At least that is what I recall. With no visual horizon to help keep him right side up, he entered into a turning descent that he tried to pull out of by ever tightening the turn: classic Graveyard Spiral. That was the end of them.

  • @johnemerson1363
    @johnemerson1363 2 года назад +70

    I flew search missions for CAP between 1975 and 1994 when I was a mission pilot. We had a special school for our mission pilots that taught our air crews how to fly search in mountains. We even differentiated between normally aspirated 172 and 182's and high powered aircraft like Bonanza and turbocharged engines. Normally aspirated were not allowed above 13000 feet.
    I remember one flight in winter where we searched the tops of ridges at about 12000 feet and looked at snow and a few pine trees. That summer I flew the same grid and found a large deep forest. There had been about 25 to 30 feet of snow that winter. No wonder we never found anything. If they crashed and it snowed that night, they were covered. Even now, I doubt that anyone has walked that ridge in years.

    • @mja2001
      @mja2001 2 года назад +8

      I remember having to disapprove quite a few flight plans that were too high for the approved climb rates at those temperatures and altitudes.

    • @steven-nb6rt
      @steven-nb6rt 2 года назад +1

      I wonder what percentage of the missing planes were normally aspirated engines and what percentage were turbocharged. Would make an interesting difference I think, flying at those altitudes.

    • @johnemerson1363
      @johnemerson1363 2 года назад +1

      @@steven-nb6rt Based on the briefings I remember, most of the planes were not turbocharged.. Too many of them ran out of airspeed, altitude and ideas.

    • @steven-nb6rt
      @steven-nb6rt 2 года назад

      @@johnemerson1363 I totally agree.

    • @johnemerson1363
      @johnemerson1363 2 года назад

      @@steven-nb6rt On some of those flights in a 180 horse 172, I could only carry one observer. We usually carried two.

  • @TIO540S1
    @TIO540S1 2 года назад +38

    I fly through there frequently. Not a good place to lose an engine and a great place to encounter extreme turbulence, rotor clouds, mountain waves, etc. with prevailing westerlies directly perpendicular to the extreme relief between the Great Central Valley and the Sierras. My first encounter with Sierra mountain waves was in a Cessna 172. I was at full power, best rate of climb airspeed, and mid-weight and, despite all this, I was descending at 1,500 feet per minute. I was about to declare an emergency and turn east into China Lake’s restricted airspace when I flew out of it. The turbulence was extreme. I learned my lesson and, thankfully, lived to tell about it.

    • @JP-uk9uc
      @JP-uk9uc 2 года назад +2

      Shear wind is deadly

    • @jasonringulet1605
      @jasonringulet1605 2 года назад

      Fuck n a that story made my palms sweat!

    • @yowwwwie
      @yowwwwie 2 года назад +1

      density altitude and wind shear...deadly combination.
      יוי

  • @davidanderson1889
    @davidanderson1889 2 года назад +253

    Amazing the things that are done and how resourceful people get once a billionaire is misplaced or lost

    • @rednecksuburbanidiot3230
      @rednecksuburbanidiot3230 2 года назад +47

      Yeah if only they were to be like this for all the children that are missing

    • @jimknopick5115
      @jimknopick5115 2 года назад +2

      0⁰]⁰⁰⁰this] 0⁰⁰0⁰⁰

    • @arandomtrip8082
      @arandomtrip8082 2 года назад +16

      Lol I was gonna say the exact same thing here ! It's true money talks b.s. walks!

    • @robertahubert9155
      @robertahubert9155 2 года назад +12

      Money is a good motivator

    • @LBxType1
      @LBxType1 2 года назад +5

      How hard would you have worked for your meal ticket?

  • @blackbirdpie217
    @blackbirdpie217 2 года назад +173

    People love to dramatize when the obvious is just too boring. This area is known for very turbulent air, which in a small, low flying aircraft can be very treacherous. You have the tallest peak of the Sierra Nevada range nearby, steady air flow from the Pacific Ocean 220 miles to the west and the potential for high winds at times which- especially on the LEE SIDE generates lots of horizontal rotor turbulence.. You can often see it in the dramatic and unusual clouds called lee side waves which are high and beautiful but you know what's under those clouds are rotors that can slam a plane right into the ground. There's a complex geography of not just the Sierra Nevada mountains but the Inyo-White mountain range where he went down. just a few miles east of the Sierra. Combine that with the high density altitude, and some of the deepest valleys around like Death Valley to the south of his crash, This vertical disparity means a lot of instability and risk. it's not only dangerous to try to stay airborne but there's virtually no place to put it down safely. Very rugged terrain. Many pilots don't have enough fear of the invisible unstable air and pay the price.

    • @eastbaykidd8574
      @eastbaykidd8574 2 года назад +12

      Actually I find the phenomena quite interesting, but yes, I get your point about the overdramatization.

    • @kellyplumb7024
      @kellyplumb7024 2 года назад +2

      Yes, indeed that would be a huge consideration if one did want to fake a death disappearance etc. You do have to consider all possibilities wouldn't you agree.

    • @leslievey7312
      @leslievey7312 2 года назад +5

      I think the amount of planes lost in this area is not over dramatization.

    • @kellyplumb7024
      @kellyplumb7024 2 года назад +7

      Can we all agree that people can become somewhat complacent or less diligent when they are used to getting away with things just saying I mean no one is getting out of here alive am I right?

    • @kellyplumb7024
      @kellyplumb7024 2 года назад +4

      I'm having to agree with your statement, I again have to say that people do get complacent or comfortable with getting away with things that is the downfall isn't it perhaps they were or were not expecting the worst or getting out of it where am I, how do I know this and what do I do about it those questions never die no matter the circumstance that is what I am passing on to all of my grandchildren who have to navigate this life safely with success and happiness that is all.

  • @calvingarrett3245
    @calvingarrett3245 2 года назад +18

    Prayers to his family and God rest his soul. Ray Garrett Roseville California USA

  • @williamhilbert8324
    @williamhilbert8324 2 года назад +4

    I went through that area by car last spring and could see how someone could disappear, beautiful but desolate

  • @suzannehartmann946
    @suzannehartmann946 2 года назад +11

    Really nice that it was ordinary people that found out where he went missing and not the expensive search just because he was rich.

  • @Gundog55
    @Gundog55 2 года назад +69

    Flyin a Piper Seneca from South Lake Tahoe to Reno I got into an updraft sending me up 4000’ per minute. ATC asked me “ What are you doing? I told you to descend!” Power idle gear down and we just kept going up until the updraft peaked out.

    • @frankferriolo9212
      @frankferriolo9212 2 года назад +5

      Wow! That's a crazy situation! I probably would've shit in my pants! Literally!

    • @Vespyr_
      @Vespyr_ 2 года назад +6

      How high up there did you arrive before descending? Any cross wind?

    • @edhornyak2799
      @edhornyak2799 2 года назад +1

    • @TheRisskee
      @TheRisskee 2 года назад

      @@docsavage9901 haha that's awesome! Dynamic soaring really does make you feel very good. 😎🤙the downdrafts, not so much. 😅😬

    • @dylanmcwhirter9844
      @dylanmcwhirter9844 2 года назад

      @@docsavage9901 and which flight sim were you playing agahahahahah

  • @rainangelx7318
    @rainangelx7318 2 года назад +52

    Missing child? Oh we don't have enough resources to look.
    Missing rich guy? Biggest rescue operation in US history

    • @vantastroganoff4370
      @vantastroganoff4370 2 года назад +2

      Oh my God
      Savethekids (maven) lower wages MISCREANTS
      Rich pay more tax
      And poor breed so much

    • @vantastroganoff4370
      @vantastroganoff4370 2 года назад +4

      USA HISTORY. He done more than you
      80% missing end up back.home USUALLY parental feud and cops call for babysitting duty
      Stop poor attitude
      and Indians taken by whitemsm too

    • @EricaAsjaee
      @EricaAsjaee 2 года назад +1

      @@vantastroganoff4370 bullshit , half of missing persons reports aren’t taken seriously . Especially minority people, I’m pretty sure these government People are sex trafficking too . That’s why so many people be missing .

    • @theeoarsman921
      @theeoarsman921 2 года назад +4

      @@EricaAsjaee Off your meds again?

  • @j.need4qlife483
    @j.need4qlife483 2 года назад +5

    The geographical layout of that area is phenomenal. There you can find some of the tallest mountains in the country and some of the deepest ravines. Plus, the weather can change so fast creating some of the harshest windshear pilots can ever experience. I used to frequently travel that area often and even on the ground traveling, there are so many hazard that are encountered regularly. Lightening strikes happens to several people each year at Yosemite NP.

  • @samaipata4756
    @samaipata4756 3 года назад +56

    I flew many times in this area. This is a highly demanding area to fly in, due to challenging weather conditions in summer and in winter. In summer due to convectional heating creating extreme local up and down drafts in combination with high density altitude challenges, heavily impacting and limiting aircraft performance on top of that fast build up of thunderstorms. In winter time snow storms, icing, low ceilings, poor visibility and easy to loose orientation without GPS.

    • @leefithian3704
      @leefithian3704 2 года назад

      Working it now

    • @matthewalston1226
      @matthewalston1226 2 года назад

      Lose***

    • @horacesawyer2487
      @horacesawyer2487 2 года назад +2

      Samai: sounds like one disaster after another awaits the unwary. And the wary too.
      Even Steve Fossett got caught by something bigger than him and his Super D. Kind of hard to believe that he couldn't fly his way out, power his way to safety. Must have been overwhelming. Quite frankly, I didn't know it was this dangerous out there.
      I do now.
      No low-level AGL stuff close to the mountains. Good way to end up piled up on the rocks.

    • @JimsEquipmentShed
      @JimsEquipmentShed 2 года назад +3

      Steve should have known how a density wheel works……I think he just got sloppy, and flew into a spot he couldn’t power out of

  • @aliciablackman2981
    @aliciablackman2981 3 года назад +69

    Glad he was found. Even if it was after a year. Thanks for the upload

    • @onealmr
      @onealmr 2 года назад +2

      I read your comment and assumed he was found alive. I felt kind of sad when I saw what happened.

    • @fluseint.1303
      @fluseint.1303 2 года назад +6

      @@onealmr mhh one year and u think he's alive? 🤔😆

    • @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou
      @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 2 года назад +5

      @@fluseint.1303 hey if 16 people can survive on top of a mountain in a busted up plane in blizzard conditions eating their dead then being found a few months later alive then anything is possible lol. I believe 3 men went out looking for help and only 1 of them survived and found the help and he sent them to the plane were the 15 others were still alive some 15 days after he started his walk to help.

    • @fluseint.1303
      @fluseint.1303 2 года назад +4

      @@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou Fuerza-Aérea-Uruguaya-Flight 571 it was "only" 72 days. None of the three guys who went for help died. One of them, the weakest, was left behind and went back to the wreck. The other two found a guy with a donkey and could finally get some help...

    • @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou
      @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 2 года назад

      @@fluseint.1303 okay I was just going off of what I remembered. I did read up on it some just now to brush up and what I read stated it was three men on horseback that they had ran into. One of them went 10 road their horse 10 hours for help.
      I know they were arriero which mainly used mules so whoever wrote that could have been wrong for all I know. I remember watching the video on it now too though and in the video I believe they had shown horses too.

  • @jamesdickey9088
    @jamesdickey9088 2 года назад +8

    Steve Fossett remains were found a year after he disappeared. That area of wilderness is full of hiking areas, and a Hiker found his ID Cards. This then led to the discovery of the wreckage shortly after. About a half mile away from the wreckage, they found human remains which if I remember correctly were DNA matched to Fossett. I lived in the Wine Country during that time.

    • @yowwwwie
      @yowwwwie 2 года назад

      yes...I remember that as well. Appears he survived the crash, but died shortly afterwards...IDK what the coroner's report said.
      יוי

  • @naliblu8788
    @naliblu8788 3 года назад +19

    Since there are no comments even with being up for a month....HIIIIII! Just wanted to stop by and thank you for the upload. Enjoyed the content. :)

  • @mja2001
    @mja2001 2 года назад +12

    I remember the search, I brought a lot of supplies from our base to help set up the tech at our Bishop, CA CAP base, then was a briefer and flight release officer for the first weekend of the search. The non-CAP pilots that wanted to join the search on their own kept endangering our aircraft entering our search grids, even endangering military aircraft running their search grids. Glad we had no collisions during the search.

  • @MrFrogfreak
    @MrFrogfreak 3 года назад +25

    A course in mountain flying is needed before you fly the mountains experiencing unexpected and powerful updrafts and downdrafts! training in counteracting and keeping your cool! MAIN WEAPON to fight this is ALTITUDE!!

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation 2 года назад +1

      Where do you get specific training like that?

    • @m118lr
      @m118lr 2 года назад +4

      @@VictoryAviation ...a Flight School in THAT area of higher elevation areas, ALL OVER THE PLACE

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation 2 года назад +1

      @@m118lr gotcha. We don’t have anything remotely close out here by Chicago 😂

    • @TheRisskee
      @TheRisskee 2 года назад +3

      @@VictoryAviation hey there! California pilot. There's an emphasis on it in these parts because of our terrain but there really isn't a specialized course. You basically learn it over time and what you pick up from flying with different mentors and such. I'm fortunate enough to have a family full of pilots but that isn't the case for everyone and I have to respect that the info/knowledge/wisdom is harder to come by for some people. There are a few flight schools in the Central Valley of CA that try to go over mountain flying but a lot gets lost in them. I think the best thing to do if you're really interested in understanding the drafts of the Sierra Nevadas and other mountain range flying is to go up in a glider with an experienced glider pilot because their life blood is about understanding these drafts. You'll learn more that way than any ground or flight school.

    • @VictoryAviation
      @VictoryAviation 2 года назад

      @@TheRisskee awesome. Thank you

  • @alexandercurtis4427
    @alexandercurtis4427 2 года назад +2

    The world has taught me that the triangle is the most deadly shape

  • @CoastalAutoReactionCAR
    @CoastalAutoReactionCAR 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for all of these!

  • @user-yv7kw1nr2q
    @user-yv7kw1nr2q 2 года назад +2

    Thank you - the video was well put together.

  • @shelbyindianajones3226
    @shelbyindianajones3226 2 года назад +1

    my daughters were in CAP... it is a GREAT organization for kids who want to fly and/or military... they loved it!

  • @kathrynkenyon785
    @kathrynkenyon785 2 года назад +6

    Very interesting story. Well done, beautiful scenery!

  • @kenclark9888
    @kenclark9888 2 года назад +17

    It’s because so many people take chances with situations that are beyond their control. There can be strong weather conditions there many times a year. BTW Fossetts plane was found and so was his remains. Also if he was forced down he’d be found. And those F-16s may not be for intercepts there but flight test of various weapons systems

  • @MojoKc2244
    @MojoKc2244 2 года назад +3

    What a sad but amazing story.

  • @titoskeleton9571
    @titoskeleton9571 2 года назад +11

    Just thinking that this guy went through almost everything, survived when others couldn't, broke records and he probably survived an airplane crash only to perish waiting for help... it brings to mind how he felt on his last moments

    • @JimsEquipmentShed
      @JimsEquipmentShed 2 года назад +4

      He probably felt like a dumb ass for neglecting the most basic of rules, and not filing a flight plan.
      At the very least, tell someone, anyone, where you are headed, and when you expect to be back.

    • @JP-uk9uc
      @JP-uk9uc 2 года назад +1

      Attended an FAA class on flying into inclement weather, the guy in case killed his family trying to get into an airport he couldn't because it was not VFR.

  • @warrenwilson4818
    @warrenwilson4818 2 года назад

    Outstanding video! Just spellbinding, every moment. 2-17-22 St. Joseph, MO

  • @twilightpurpleglow
    @twilightpurpleglow 2 года назад +6

    Interesting video. What a way to go for an Adventurer with the likes of Mr. Fossett. Interesting theory of what happened that fateful day. It is however shocking to learn that two thousand planes have crashed in that area. R.I.P. Steve Fossett (and Mrs Peggy; her passing Oct. 2017).

  • @TheSilmarillian
    @TheSilmarillian 2 года назад +30

    CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain ) achieved by flaring out and reducing air speed and to a minimum and stalling into the terrain,he was well capable of that decision and more than likely made it ,would be interesting to read the incident report on the flap elevations ect and the ground speed at impact ...hell of a way to go rest in peace from Australia Piper driver here

    • @kennysherrill6542
      @kennysherrill6542 2 года назад +1

      Bob Hover said to fly all the way to the crash site. 👍❤🇺🇸

  • @skipgetelman3418
    @skipgetelman3418 2 года назад +34

    Was flying a large trijet over that area at 35000 feet and a mountain wave which was sinking made it impossible to hold altitude even at full power It was a really bad feeling

    • @vickieharris8998
      @vickieharris8998 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, that's one of those times you get the big lump in your throat lol..

    • @pilot3016
      @pilot3016 2 года назад

      Wow! (I'm a sailplane pilot with a power rating). Amazing.

    • @frankferriolo9212
      @frankferriolo9212 2 года назад +3

      Holy cow! I didn't think a jet could be out-powered by wind and/or air pressure? But I suppose in the right condition any kind of anomaly is possible?
      Glad you made it out.
      Peace.

    • @MIXTAB1
      @MIXTAB1 2 года назад +1

      Wow even at 350!?
      That’s crazy, we’ll done getting out of it🤘

    • @ReflectedMiles
      @ReflectedMiles 2 года назад +2

      @@frankferriolo9212 At that altitude, loaded jets typically have a much more limited climb capability than they do at lower altitudes. I was flying a turbocharged Mooney (single-engine) east of the Sisters mountains in Oregon around 17,000 ft. in instrument conditions (in clouds) and got into the same sinking-wave condition. At that altitude and the weight of the aircraft that day, I would expect to be able to climb at around 1,000 feet per minute. Instead, with full power and speed down to best rate of climb, I was losing between 200 and 300 ft. of altitude per minute. Fortunately, I was well above the terrain and it only took about three minutes to get out of it. It is an uncomfortable feeling onboard, though.

  • @HowsDaJello
    @HowsDaJello 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for the upload

  • @ItsMe-jd8ou
    @ItsMe-jd8ou 2 года назад +8

    Its so sad to imagine him wounded and hopeful to a rescue that never found him. People did look sir, may he rest in peace.

  • @quest2outdoors
    @quest2outdoors 3 года назад +8

    Wow very good documentary thank you for sharing with us it is sad that he had to die prayers to the family

  • @Cody0ne5
    @Cody0ne5 3 года назад +15

    Wow really good documentary and I am glad they put the mystery to rest.

  • @pilot3016
    @pilot3016 2 года назад +13

    There are many dangers in the Sierra. Quickly rising terrain in what appears to be easy passage canyon ... "Mountain Wave" which is accompanied by a horizontal "Rotor" which is very turbulent. Talk to a Sailplane Pilot. He will "learn you up". (I'm one).

    • @frankferriolo9212
      @frankferriolo9212 2 года назад +1

      Wow! Be careful out there.
      I never knew about these anomalies they call mountain waves.
      Incredible information.
      Peace.

  • @dimidomo7946
    @dimidomo7946 2 года назад +1

    I enjoyed viewing, without being macabre, the deduction of the air tragedies and the extremely dangerous air currents within the Nevada Triangle.

  • @the_car_guy5915
    @the_car_guy5915 2 года назад

    Absolutely positively straight to Brazil

  • @charlesclager6808
    @charlesclager6808 2 года назад +10

    Occams Razor states that the simplest answer is most likely the actual answer. So was the case of Mr. Fosset.

  • @MichaelM14
    @MichaelM14 2 года назад +4

    Im glad this came up for me now instead of when I flew straight through this "triangle" twice, 3 years ago lol

  • @aerospacematt9147
    @aerospacematt9147 2 года назад +3

    14:33 That’s pretty eerie, standing among the remains of a high performance fighter jet, and standing right next to the cockpit where two people were killed. They died in that very spot. And when the guy said “that appears to be part of the ejection seat, hopefully they got out okay”, if the seat is that close to a totally destroyed fighter, most likely, they didn’t. I’m just surprised that when they recovered the remains of the pilots for burial, why they didn’t clean up the debris.

  • @theborg269x
    @theborg269x 2 года назад +2

    I live 30 mim From yerinton. My granpa was a crop duster and had a plane after he retired, as a small kid not even tall enough to use the rudder pedals he would take me up almost every day during summer vacation. One day we needed to fill up and took off from our dirt runway, and set a course for yerinton. A bit more then half way there my grandpa stopped blabbing for a second to notice, we were badly off course. He calmly told me we probably aren't going to make it.. well we did but we glided in engine off and had to push the plane by hand the pump.. grandpa sure was mad when when told grandma 20 years later during a family bday party, most people are scared to die yet most never truly live. The mountains definitely disoriented me hard to tell one from the next.

  • @thunderdick6117
    @thunderdick6117 2 года назад +3

    I believe that he did survive the crash I also believe by the state the aircraft was found in that he was more than likely badly injured in the crash. He more than likely traveled as far as he could and then probably passed away from injuries from the crash. It's not a place I would like to live my last moments in it's beautiful but you are alone . I would like to be able to look into my wife's beautiful blue eyes one last time before I passed. It must have been so unbelievably hard on his family not knowing where he was all that time. Fortunately the family got some kind of news to hopefully give them some sense of closure to such a tragic event .

  • @killeralltires
    @killeralltires 2 года назад +3

    Was literally just thinking about this guy yesterday and now this shows up in my recommended? I couldn't even remember Steve fosets name.

  • @JFH-te4lu
    @JFH-te4lu 2 года назад +1

    Oh my gosh! I remember this! Stephen Fosset is indeed a famous aviator. In this case, perhaps the attention was made because of his adventurous reputation.

  • @Lyndiloo
    @Lyndiloo 3 года назад +11

    5:52 that is not where Las Vegas is... the right side of your triangle goes way into Arizona, but the actual Nevada Triangle is much smaller and doesn't include any of Arizona and way less of Nevada than shown.

    • @ericmattinen4728
      @ericmattinen4728 2 года назад +5

      Nor does it include not much , if any of the Area 51 area. It might cover a little bit of the NNTS, but it follows the Walker Lane and points west to Fresno. Their mapping skills leave something to be desired.

  • @SJKile
    @SJKile 3 года назад +22

    This documentary is mistitled. This is about Steve Fosset & not about the misstated title that it has. That is unfortunate.

  • @mathiaslee83
    @mathiaslee83 2 года назад +13

    I'm not sure who made the chart for the map but they put las vegas in arizona, and they spelled Sacramento wrong.

    • @enterBJ40
      @enterBJ40 2 года назад

      Lol...! Really?

    • @mathiaslee83
      @mathiaslee83 2 года назад

      @@enterBJ40 lol not kidding at all. Just check a map. XD

    • @enterBJ40
      @enterBJ40 2 года назад

      I will 😉

  • @josedaniel4725
    @josedaniel4725 2 года назад +6

    When my Marine company went to Bridgeport,California for cold weather training one squad was on a land navigation course(night) and took pictures of a UFO that hovered above. The following day we were ordered to return back to garrison and given 3 days liberty😎, these suits came in in several cars and confiscated the Kodak camera film yeah this was 1981 so cell phones were not affordable then, the squad was describing what they saw but the story was over exaggerated by the time our platoon heard it. The CO stated it was a Harrier jet that was seen and nothing else alot of questions but damn I didn't care we were out of the snow and heading back to Camp Pendleton

  • @SandraLily2
    @SandraLily2 2 года назад +11

    CFIT is not an "option", it's an outcome.

  • @pickles3128
    @pickles3128 2 года назад +4

    Why do these places all have to be triangles? What's so bad about the Nevada _Rhombus?_ The Bennington _Trapezoid?_ The Bermuda _Dodecagon?_

  • @doug7232
    @doug7232 2 года назад +8

    I'd err on the side of not being able to handle the mountain flying situation you've gotten yourself into rather than mystical vortexes

    • @Thundersnowy
      @Thundersnowy 2 года назад

      They weren't mystical. The meteorological data is on record for the very moment he flew in the area... He flew right into that weather pattern

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 2 года назад +11

    Adrenalin junkie. Foset tried his luck for too many years. Terrible tragedy.

  • @chinabuzz
    @chinabuzz 2 года назад +8

    16:33 The producers misspelled "Sacramento" in their map of the triangle.

    • @ameliaflowers9836
      @ameliaflowers9836 2 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jennysjourney02
      @jennysjourney02 2 года назад

      Also, put Sacramento in what looks like the mountains or foothills when it's actually in the valley, along with San Francisco. I was confused by that so I didn't notice the miss spelling of Sacramento.

    • @tattoomiked4612
      @tattoomiked4612 2 года назад

      They kind of spelled it like Excrement.

  • @paulmoffat9306
    @paulmoffat9306 2 года назад +17

    The opening assumptions based on flying time and speed, in setting the search radius is plain wrong. An experienced pilot would go only 1/3 his range out from the airport the he expected to return to, than using it all up on a one way trip. The initial search radius would be only 160 miles, not the 480 they stated. And an experienced pilot would go up wind if just sight seeing, to make the return easier. Of course, it is easy to be an armchair commentator after the facts, and I am sure that everyone involved at the time did their best. I too have flown a small aircraft in the mountains, and sometimes things do not go as planned or desired. RIP.

    • @oldcat3439
      @oldcat3439 2 года назад +1

      .. Mr. Moffat us a HIGHLY accomplished sailplane and GA pilot with much 🏔️ flight experience .. thank you for your wise observation Mr Moffat.

    • @dannydemara5785
      @dannydemara5785 2 года назад

      Bushings for Vw 2001. Jetta. Shifter

    • @mja2001
      @mja2001 2 года назад

      You would try to search the most likely grids first (pilot's known favorite areas, verbalized/text/email plans close to the last flight, local scenic spots, previously flown routes, etc.) when there's the biggest chance of finding your target alive. However, we do NOT discount the aircraft's total endurance, including glide. Medical emergencies (including stroke/cva, hypoxia, etc.) have a funny way of taking you way beyond your intended area of flight. As do in-flight mechanical emergencies, perhaps leaving you with a glide/reduced power flight away from your origin due to the geography where you encounter the issue. Always know where they COULD be, even if you have favorites to search first before you extend your area.

  • @frankferriolo9212
    @frankferriolo9212 2 года назад +11

    I remember seeing the Steve Faucet story on the news. And I'm on the east coast too. That was a popular story. Probably because he was rich. And because people tend to spread conspiracy theories because of Area 51.

    • @chinabuzz
      @chinabuzz 2 года назад

      Fossett, not Faucet.

    • @violagentsch
      @violagentsch 2 года назад

      Who is Steve Faucet

    • @TheRisskee
      @TheRisskee 2 года назад

      He really wasn't all that rich though. He was worth 1.5 mil at the time of his death. It was more his fame as an adventurer than his net worth.

  • @cali9460
    @cali9460 2 года назад +1

    I live in the Sierra mountains, they don't dissappear they just can't be found, some areas are so heavily wooded there's not a chance they could be found.

  • @williamthomas2278
    @williamthomas2278 2 года назад +5

    First your map is inaccurate as Las Vegas is in southern Nevada not north central Arizona that would be roughly Flagstaff otherwise it wouldn't include much of the White Mountains but it a known graveyard of aircraft in and over those high peeks is extremely challenging to fly

  • @jimakcelik6486
    @jimakcelik6486 3 года назад +18

    People pushes envelopes such as flying airplane mounting climbing things like that
    Always a risk I don’t care how expert you are it’s gonna get you sooner or later.

    • @andrewbillingsley9377
      @andrewbillingsley9377 2 года назад +4

      No matter how hard you push the envelope, it will always be stationary.

    • @iamnotpaulavery
      @iamnotpaulavery 2 года назад +3

      @@andrewbillingsley9377 and nature always has the upper hand.

    • @andrewbillingsley9377
      @andrewbillingsley9377 2 года назад +1

      @@iamnotpaulavery No its like a joke... envelope, stationary....GEEZE

    • @iamnotpaulavery
      @iamnotpaulavery 2 года назад

      @@andrewbillingsley9377 ok

    • @chevyon37s
      @chevyon37s 2 года назад +7

      I’m gonna let you in on a secret... everybody dies. Might as well live while you’re alive, even if it will kill you.

  • @sheplaysajag
    @sheplaysajag 3 года назад +13

    Is it just me, or is the map of the Triangle off a little? las Vegas looks like its in AZ.

  • @31pilot
    @31pilot 2 года назад +11

    Who in heck "walks away" from a crash like that?? and when only pieces from that airplane were found scattered all over the mountain.

  • @robertdavis2017
    @robertdavis2017 2 года назад +2

    A very informative video. I agree with others that unlimited expenses were used to help find Mr.
    Fosset which is that others that have have become missing was not afforded the same. He was a very famous person and I regret his
    unfortunate death.

  • @ghw7192
    @ghw7192 2 года назад

    I've tried til I cried and I still can't untangle
    The weird mysteries 9f the 'Vada Triangle.

  • @eudaenomic
    @eudaenomic 2 года назад +8

    I remember this and a friend in the AF stating a device used to identify specific color ranging from infrared to ultraviolet was being used to locate the individual or wreckage. The colors of his clothes, skin, aircraft were uploaded.

  • @danni1993
    @danni1993 2 года назад

    Wow...strange.

  • @danni1993
    @danni1993 2 года назад +3

    It doesn't matter how many records you have broken, or how good of a pilot you are...if you have a medical emergency.
    Steve Fawcett could have had a heart attack.
    They stated the area is too big to search everywhere.

  • @xiayabennett6982
    @xiayabennett6982 2 года назад +5

    explains why the plane shakes like a snowglobe whether we fly over this

  • @Chris_Troxler
    @Chris_Troxler 2 года назад +1

    🎵 The mountains win again...🎶
    I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

  • @shinigami117s8
    @shinigami117s8 2 года назад

    I remember the search parties. I flew over yerington once on a summer’s day. No wind but high turbulence from the thin hot spots of air.

  • @johnadams2063
    @johnadams2063 2 года назад +1

    I was drove threw that area and let me tell you its amazing!! Just crazy. I was wondering if anybody had ever stepped foot on 99 percent of it. Why would you?? It's insane looking place.

  • @michelleschultz472
    @michelleschultz472 2 года назад +6

    Wouldn't it make sense that in such an expansive and remote area, that a simple navigational mistake is all it could take to become hopelessly lost with no safe place to land? But no, must be the aliens!

  • @jcg702
    @jcg702 2 года назад +2

    Spent 22 years growing up in Reno and Vegas, first you pronounced the state wrong and second probably 99% of Nevadans have never heard of the "Nevada Triangle". Flew all over these areas as well, and I'm still here lol

  • @denneswanyiri4470
    @denneswanyiri4470 2 года назад

    Just like the Bermuda triangle
    Bermuda,Costa Rica, Florida
    It's crystal clear of how nature has so much impact and cause of many aviation accidents and incidents. But thanks to technology and human efforts we are able to learn tricks of all this with time only its painful that some hero's pay with their lives our cost.

  • @pvtread5207
    @pvtread5207 2 года назад +3

    Even the most experienced person screws up eventually. He flew into a dangerous area and paid the price.

  • @dalestephan6777
    @dalestephan6777 2 года назад +4

    I'm quite surprised there was no ELT on the aircraft

  • @nimueh4298
    @nimueh4298 2 года назад +3

    Again when something can't be explained the alien excuse is never far from somebody mind.

    • @Richard-zc1cj
      @Richard-zc1cj 2 года назад +2

      Grogu, I'm sure it was those pesky aliens again

  • @email4664
    @email4664 2 года назад +2

    Much better than politics

  • @dethray1000
    @dethray1000 2 года назад +12

    his best friend said he took himself out,his health was failing--i could tell you countless stories since my son is heli/airplane pilot-my dad was ww2 pilot-we live in Bishop,calif. --one mistake and your dead(bad weather,etc)

  • @sb75ification
    @sb75ification 2 года назад +1

    Had a Cirrus 20 crash out of Truckee a few days ago. Inside the triangle

  • @frankroberts9320
    @frankroberts9320 2 года назад +1

    Love the Metro State lanyard.

  • @johnkarmann4708
    @johnkarmann4708 2 года назад +2

    The critters ate well. The rest of us have formaldehyde pumped into us and then we're thrown into a hole or an incinerator. Fosset can't complain.

  • @weirdbeard1980
    @weirdbeard1980 2 года назад

    Lots of mountains and turbulent weather. I live in Truckee. Had two separate plane crashes here last month, both within a couple miles of my house.

  • @fluseint.1303
    @fluseint.1303 2 года назад +7

    A German area 51 expert😆

  • @pietervaness3229
    @pietervaness3229 2 года назад

    I read a report about cassettes disappearance several years ago ( I took my basic aeronautics training in a citabria years ago )

  • @unclemuir
    @unclemuir 2 года назад

    If you knew or flew with Steve you would not expect him to make a simple mistake (flying up a box canyon). Steve and Peggy Fossett were a great couple to help in tasks that others wanted to break a record or two. We gave Steve a lot of advice and flew with him on many occasions. We had all had high altitude training and survival training. Being In a crash with all the training could be survivable .I liked Steve and Peggy and I miss them both.

  • @josiatokirina1788
    @josiatokirina1788 2 года назад +4

    I thought planes are required to carry an automatic impact emergency crash beacon locator on board?!

  • @JesterMCL
    @JesterMCL 2 года назад +1

    Death comes for us all old young rich or poor it doesn’t matter. I am sad that many people lost their lives there my heart goes out to the family’s.

  • @shelleyg1836
    @shelleyg1836 2 года назад +3

    how tragic the pilot made it out of the airplane probably injuried and dragged himself up to the ridge waiting for a rescue that never came. chances are he seen/heard search planes in the distance despairing because they didn't come close enough to see him. most likely too injured to be able to try and hike out himself. this is just a terrible sad event.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 2 года назад +4

      There's a lot of this in remote areas. Military pilots have survival and signalling supplies on their person for a reason. Civilian pilots choose the comfort of stashing them somewhere else if they have them at all. It got Amelia Earheart too; she kept offloading things she didn't think she'd need- raft, long-range radio antenna, extra food and water, etc. You can't survive everything but you can increase your odds significantly. Fosset could have had an ELT and a PLB and a survival kit but he didn't. In the end that killed him as much as the crash did. RIP.

    • @marktwain368
      @marktwain368 2 года назад

      Something as simple as a mirror or reflecting metal surface can be used to flash search aircraft and lead to rescue. I'm guessing this man was probably too injured to even help himself. Rest in peace, Steve.

  • @comeasyouare4545
    @comeasyouare4545 2 года назад +4

    If you mess with the bull, don't be surprised when you get the horn.

  • @insanecow24
    @insanecow24 2 года назад +2

    Here's a fucking thought: an ambitious pilot who breaks records for a living went out and did some risky shit as a test before doing it in front of the cameras.

  • @ervinthompson6598
    @ervinthompson6598 2 года назад +3

    .......Density Altitude, mountain wave turbulence and downdrafts - And wealth related to rescue efforts ?? I can attest that the military was mobilized on the east coast in fifteen minutes after John Kennedy Jr. went missing - on that hazy dead night at 10 PM , you should have heard the helicopters from Fort Bragg being staged to the Army base near Wilmington NC where I lived at the time.

  • @crunchies4me
    @crunchies4me 3 года назад +5

    I just started but in terms of him choosing to "disappear", as an adult he has every right to disappear by choice. Perhaps this Nevada triangle happen to be similar to the Bermuda triangle. I bet there's a lot of "triangles" in the world.

  • @bradrobinhancock8491
    @bradrobinhancock8491 2 года назад +1

    "He was investigating why so many aircraft had come down in the area".
    I'm going with gravity. Yep, gravity brought them ALL down.

  • @rbilleaud
    @rbilleaud 2 года назад +3

    A lot of that is restricted airspace. You violate that at your own risk. They can shoot you down without warning.

  • @ElementalLeaf
    @ElementalLeaf 2 года назад +1

    4:47 damn even playstation was looking for him

  • @rosievasquez4378
    @rosievasquez4378 2 года назад +1

    May you rest in peace he probably walked and walked until he couldn't anymore that's why it's far away from the plane my condolences to his wife I'm sorry for the death of your husband now that the blood can lead to rest

  • @joestephan1111
    @joestephan1111 2 года назад

    Fawcett was known to have been exploring for large dry lakes to put together a group he was heading that would organize NASCAR-like events for rocket powered planes.

  • @Milkmans_Son
    @Milkmans_Son 2 года назад +1

    He didn't just take off without saying a word. He was scouting locations for some other world record attempt.

  • @jcg702
    @jcg702 2 года назад

    BTW good job on re-uploading old content from another page...

  • @johnwood551
    @johnwood551 2 года назад +1

    Thousands of FLAT Land Flyers from California who try to fly over a very rugged mountain chain with high winds , density altitude situations because of the high temps . Downdrafts and thermals are tricky for light aircraft. Don’t need “Aliens” to take you down, but “news” organizations love to sell newspapers and news programs. He was a experienced pilot and would have known where Area 51 was ,or any other military airspace

  • @bethhentges
    @bethhentges 2 года назад

    41:55 Slope Fields while discussing the weather and wind

  • @fredflintstoner596
    @fredflintstoner596 2 года назад +1

    Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!"
    Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
    Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
    Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
    Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea !"
    Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
    Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
    Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"