Horrific Plane Crashes That Could Have Been Prevented | Mayday Compilation | On The Move
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2023
- In this compilation of Mayday, we take a look at three different flights: American Airlines flight 1420, United Airlines flight 811 and AeroPeru flight 603.
Experts analyse various plane crashes with an aim to figure out how these disasters occurred. They also shed light on how such accidents shaped the aviation industry and improved safety standards. Along with interviews with aviation experts and eyewitnesses, Mayday reconstructs real-life air disasters to find out the events leading up to it.
Season 1 Episodes 1, 2 & 3
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OH, and I love the Campbells they are a force to be reckoned with, RIP Lee Campbell.
I'm an HVAC systems designer. There is NO SUCH THING as ANY amount of "harmless" smoke coming from any HVAC system.
I applaud the effort of the Campbell parents. We'd all want to know what happened to our children, and we'd all want to do everything possible to ensure that no other families would have to go thru such a tragedy if it could be prevented....especially if it's something quite easily preventable. It took a lot of fortitude for them to see that through.
I absolutely love the parents in the 1st story. They were determined to get to the truth and they didn't stop til they did. Way to go Mom and Dad
Unfortunately they discovered the agency (FAA) that was created also is in charged of promoting airline industry and allowed the airlines to play the odds with their rotating maintenance schedule over a long period of time.
They are rock stars as far as I am concerned.
Gotta give it to them they definitely went above & beyond. They apparently were wealthy from other reports which explains why they werent interested in a settlement but i guess anyone could have guessed that as they had the means to leave their home country & embark on a foreign country wide road trip for the next 2 years without having to worry about work or paying mortgage and car payments back home. I'm sure that though those were times caused by distress they can look back and find solace in those times they spent together. Hell of a story. "Remember when we went to the USA & bought a car cash and drove across the country for 2 years babe"?
@@michaell8722 😊😊😊
@@michaell8722 😊
I got to tell you that vacationing aviation lawyer on flight 811 who hadn't had a vacation in 5 years.
To experience what unfolded right in front of him must have been a living real life nightmare. I enjoyed the way Bruce told his story.
Notice how unsympathetic he was. I don't believe he acknowledged the skills of the flight crew.
@@Juliette_4 do keep in mind that the producer of this edits A LOT out to keep a specific view, conversation, theme going (doesn’t mean intentional manipulation or bias; nor doesn’t mean there wasn’t any- but only that a lot is edited..)
This does appear to have a specific purpose and theme to report the data/ facts, and not an emotional docudrama.
@@Juliette_4 IDK maybe, I presume he was just scared to death, remember this guy saw plane crashes up close and personal way beyond anything we might encounter for a living. I've never been in that situation.
The Campbells, who lost their son in the cargo door incident are totally badass. To have done their own investigation in parallel to the NTSB's is absolutely incredible. They must be super intelligent to have accomplished that feat and be right! They shouldn't have had to force the issue just in search of the truth.
Either way, they seem like totally exceptionally cool people, and it blows that they had to lose their son in a horrible accident like this.
Exactly. The Campbells should join the TAIC Investigation team in their hometown, New Zealand, along with Barry Smalls. A New Zealander from Korea Airlines Flight 801.
Did you just call New Zealand a town? Lmao.
I was a Flight Attendant with United at the time of 811's incident and worked with Laura Brentlinger a few years after it happened. On that crew, the 3rd Flight Attendant was Tim Owens. Tim was a Flight Attendant on UAL 232 that crashed trying to land at Sioux City, Having them both on my flight and having them share their experiences was both an honor and extremely educational.
You folks are the best. Thank you for your service.
Sioux City was a flipping miracle.
Surprising that either of them kept doing that kind of work.
Also would've thought that at least Tim would've gotten a significant settlement from the Sioux City incident, which must have been an absolutely terrifying experience! The odds of any one person, flight attendant or not, being in two such unlikely and horrific commercial airline disasters must be extremely rare. It would be hard enough to fly after one of those occurrences, but to fly regularly as a flight attendant?
Honestly, if they were on my crew, I'd request a transfer. Contrary to popular belief, lightening often strikes the same place twice or thrice...
@@KawaiiKasai yes they are doomed
You'd expect a few lawyers to be on-board an accident flight but an AVIATION LAWYER?!? Airline's nightmare scenario.
Vultures
As a group, yes, vultures. However, that man was fighting for plaintiffs, not the companies. Time and again these airlines, manufacturers and their counsel want to shift blame and engage in delays and malfeasance. The families in AA191 were not treated well nor was their payout a lot considering the event. In ANZ901/ Mt. Erebus, Antarctica disaster, Air New Zealand's own people were responsible for the uncommunicated flight plan change that directly caused the crash. For a long time after, they blamed the pilot. The list goes on and on.
He’s such a geek
@@Juliette_4 Until your a$$ is in trouble. I will not work with individual clients bcs unless they are lawyers, doctors, etc. television has provided their unrealistic expectations regarding the legal system.
@@cruisepaige I wonder why?
I like the complete lack of music in the first episode. Gives me the capacity to just understand and appreciate the show.
Also adds a little more immersion. You feel like you're in the airplane. Adding to the dread. Absolute horror
That episode about the United 747 incident was so very well done.The most impressive part was the dedication,tenacity,and unswerving resolve to expose the truth by the Campbells after the death of their son.Profits versus safety is certainly food for thought.
“Cost of doing business.”
*Modern society in a nutshell.*
I flew on a 747 in the 90’s. Prior to takeoff, they couldn’t close the cargo door. I heard a lot of noise up in 1st class & I asked the flight attendant what going on. She said “the cargo door is stuck open & they are welding it closed “. This took about an hour. In flight we hit severe turbulence & I asked the flight attendant “what happens if that cargo door opens?”. She said “don’t worry, we’ll gradually decompress “!
I flew a 747 once and when they got us all on the plane they announced there was an unmatched piece of luggage in the cargo hold so they had to get it out (good). Then when they tried to close the door it wouldn't close so they had to "manually" do it. It took quite a while. It was a nonstop flight to NZ and ironically before taking that flight I used to take the UA Honolulu to Auckland (NZ) flight which was UA flight 811 which flew DC-10 prototype planes.
@@radfem2010 it’s crazy how none of this was in the news. I wonder how many cargo doors were malfunctioning on the 747’s back then?
Absolutely not true that they were 'welding it closed'.
Aircraft fuselages are made from aluminium, which is an absolute nightmare to deal with, even in a controlled factory environment. There is no way they would try, nor would it be allowed, to do that on the ramp before take off. Also, 'it took an hour', is more proof it didn't happen. The thermal properties of aluminium means that even if you do make a clean weld, you have to heat treat other areas far away from the spot you were working on.
10/10 they lied to you.
Bullshit straight out fucking lie
@@trottergraeme OP is a liar
God bless the captain his experience and cool demeanor saved the day!!!!Love him!
AA FLT 1420, NTSB blamed it all on the pilot. His widow sued the airport and won!
She blamed a shorter than required safety area at the end of the runway and construction of safety lights on rigid riggings near the end of the runway for the 11 deaths.
Seems the airport didn't follow required safety rules.
I love how the father was proactive, assertive, dedicated, knowledgeable and used his abilities out of love for his son to research and expose the means of their son's death. This is family as it should be, They kept drawing attention and forcing the issue.
About the plane landing in the storm I'm reminded of a saying taught me in my youth. Discretion is the better part of valor
Wonderful work by an amazing couple.
This was a notorious problem on DC-10s, due to a known defect with the cargo door latches. Didn’t know Boeing had a similar problem .
It was the 747s. I did not know it was also an issue with the DC-10s.
Hmmmmmmmmm,,anything made by man will fail
@@Juliette_4 Yeah the DC-10 had a huge problem with the locking mechanism on the cargo door. It failed to close and latch the door completely without any indication to the crew that it was not safely closed. In 1972 an American Airlines (flight 96) DC 10 blew its door and was able to land. It wasn't until 1974 with a Turkish Airlines DC-10 when their cargo door blew off and all 346 passengers were killed that they knew for sure that the door was the problem. This was the reason they called the DC 10, the Death Cruiser. There is a great Mayday episode about this. (look for American Flight 96)
@@scottcol23 Typical of the American attitude when safety factors are not considered due to monetary implications. How disgusting that so many people lost their lives thanks to poor design and building, In USA money remains GOD. Terry Offord
Someone at M-D and at the FAA should have gone to prison over the lack of action on the known cargo door problem. Same for Boeing and FAA re the 737Max fiasco. Disgraceful and disgusting.
I was in an emergency, bird strike took out two engines on our plane in 1980.. We did make a perfect landing. I never flew again. The young man who died, his father is obvoiusly an engineer. I feel bad for his parents, reliving the moment he was sucked out of the plane. I hope they find peace.
OMG the flammable material in an Airplane is INSANE.
@sqrleyl.2499 yea the number cruncher s will save a few pennies and the cost of a life is unimportant to them. I'm sick of big business that puts Share holders and profit over Human lives.
We give a lot of props (pun intended) to the pilots and crew, but every time I watch that second episode, I'm impressed with the actors portraying the pilots. I know the first officer has been in quite a few other things, but this episode makes me feel like I'm in a real commercial plane cockpit with two pilots who know eachother and are getting nervous. Truly subtle and great acting!
Theres a part where the captain is becoming more and more agitated and the camera zooms in on the co-pilot whos compounding the situation, shouting something to the effect of "over here, no over there... uh yeah that runway, who what? Ok do it!" The whole time hes looking at the viewer and the ground is coming up over his shoulder. Really drove it home for me..FML. I would have just asked him to switch places with one of the stewardesses. Typical Rookie...
The CAMPBELLS, there aren't enough words to describe them or their effect, on passengers, airlines, crews, bureaucracy, government, all the viewers of this video, those who are aware of their story & THEIR SON LEE, and THE WORLD, not just from their efforts but from their determination and dedication to their lost son and their mission to uncover the truth and to SAVE LIVES.
THE CAMPBELL''S ARE HEROES, rare, remarkable, amazing HEROES.
Much more detailed and informative than other documentaries about these incidents.
Check out Mentour Pilot, I think you will enjoy it. He also does incidents and accidents but from a pilots perspective, so even more detail.
PLEASE
PLEASE
we are ALL interconnected.
The more you are attuned to the fabric of existence the greater your sense when a close loss happens.
RIP
That locking pin situation should not have happened, they had proof of the trouble with these types of doors with the McDonnell Douglas aircrafts, there was a crash of the Turkish airline, plus the one on AA over Canada. These types of doors had the propensity to open in flight leading to decompression, and crashes. This is really sad that we allow people to die in such a horrible way, all those deaths, RIP
Your description says AeroPeru flight 603, but it's SwissAir 111 😉
Incredible parents
Yes, and thank God for them! They undoubtedly saved more lives.
We need more like them.
The Captain Dave just passed away last year. The main Flight Attendant, Lara, just turned 73. She flew with United for almost another 20 years. The injured flight attendant has never been on a plane since and the male flight attendant quit and went into another profession.
Can you imagine?! One moment you're sitting in relative peace and quiet, cruising at over 30,000 feet, at over 500mph, not a care in the world as you read your book, stream your show, or take a snooze.... and in the literal blink of an eye you're ripped from the plane, thrown out into the ether, where you are now freefalling to certain death, and probably still strapped to your damn seat!!
Or sucked into the engine.
I can't believe it! There is Dr. Lee!! lol!!! Sorry just find it so funny with that actor being this show.. He was Dr. Lee on Star Gate SG1. hehehe...
The captain's voice sounded familiar to me so I looked him up, only to find he too had been in an episode of Stargate SG-1.. albeit years before Bill Dow's Dr Lee.
With the Boeing 737 Max ongoing problems and the information that is coming to light concerning Boeing's safety standards, the FAA allowing them so their own quality checks, you must wonder how long coverups have been going on with this company.
They tread the line b/c of costs. Must satisfy ur shareholders.
Some need prison time, also some at the FAA.
@@Juliette_4I swear, the whole stock market was a poison pill. Trying to pay CEOs and Upper managers and keep "shareholders" happy is always going to make American capitalism a special kind of Hell.
@@amberkat8147 Not if it's done fairly. How come the banks during Reagan's presidency gave us 6-8% on our savings and the stock market was also giving good returns. What happened?
Boeing deserves to be forever terminated; we can well do without those murderers.
Ain’t no such thing as a small cockpit fire..we had a wiff of smoke after takeoff … declared emergency and returned.. every emergency vehicle showed up at our ac.
If I had a choice of who to fly my plane I don't want the captain that has never been through an emergency situation I want a crew that's been through a couple of things and now has experience that most pilots will never get and that's surviving an emergency that they don't cause themselves. That was some great flying on the first story in this video especially when you have a big hole in the side of your plane
I just want a career American fighter pilot - best on the planet❤
You should meet the man who who had bird strikes on both engines and had to land the plane in the Hudson River.
The fact that swiss airlines completely changed their planes where they removed the flammable material and installed smoke detectors and cameras on all their planes is amazing and other airlines should do the same thing to their planes when they discover a flaw instead of putting it off in exchange for money.
US carriers will look at the cost of 200 lives and settlements, or bankruptcy, and always kill the passengers 1st.
They were going bankrupt it was an attempt to sell the planes as extra safe which in fairness they actually were. Most of the fleet was reused for Swiss after Swissair went bust, so most of the birds kept flying. Bad time for Swiss aviation, Crossair another smaller carrier had a bad crash too.
I remember in the 70s as a kid walking on the tarmac and going up a staircase up to the plane. The sounds of the planes were so loud. I measured loud sounds from that experience. I had to get tubes in my ears and the doctor told me not to get water in them. I would go deaf. I didn't understand. He said I wouldn't be able to hear. I said , you mean I wouldn't be able to hear a big jet airplane? He said no. I went whoa.
No one understands the far reaching impact that an airline accident can have on a community, even those who have no one on board the plane that goes down. I remember the 1992 Boing 737 accident in Colorado Springs. I lived in Denver at the time and worked at the Federal Reserve Bank. We had the unenviable task of destroying the money from that crash sight. It was terrible, the money was covered in all manner of things, including jet fuel. We had to wear hazmat gear to count and destroy it. It was an indelible part of the people who flew that day. And one event I will never forget as long as I live.
I’m curious to learn more, is this done with every crash? Was it random money collected from all the victims and belongings, or was is only money that couldn’t be identified, or was it a shipment of money like to a bank etc?
@@Sashazur Yes definitely raises a lot of questions. I'm wondering if receipts were written up for money that could be definitely linked to a person or family and possibly replaced? It sounds very unlikely as I'm typing it. Just wondering . . .
The answer is that they only fix the problem when the death tole is high enough to force a change!
It’s called cost effective practices or risks vs. benefits. That’s what we do in the medical field as well.
@Sqrley L.Lawsuits do not always solve the problems
What should be realised is that one of the factors that puts pressures on airlines to fly and not take their planes out of service , those pressures also in the end come from the passengers and the public who want to get where they want to go, get annoyed and exasperated and angry with delays and cancellations and blame the airlines. The airlines are in competition with each other and the public can easily change to other airlines if they don't get the regular service they expect.
Not really, the pressure is usually from upper management which gets passed down 'through the ranks' to lower levels who are often 'threatened' with job loss if they don't complete tasks ('we don't fire people, we just make life so difficult they quit')
I'm not sure if it's a particularly American trait but I never heard it in Britain?
It also means the upper echelons are 'safe' when something does go wrong as it's much easier to blame the minions.
Didn't a whistleblower at Boeing say it was cheaper to pay a million dollers per passenger than actually fix all the known problems?
Yeah, this is something I try to not overlook. It's easy to complain about airlines putting profits over safety... and where are those profits coming from? The 99% of people not getting in crashes who threaten to call the president of the airline or whoever if they aren't in their destination city when they expect to be. This is why it bothers me to hear people being belligerent towards airline ticket takers and such. I can't help but think "So you're the reason that everyone feels such pressure to stay on schedule and overlook safety concerns."
@1crazypj Right... and why is upper management so concerned with staying on schedule? To make passengers more likely to fly with their airline repeatedly. The execs don't get their money from some nebulous source. It's from passengers. So yes, to a degree they're willing to put profits above safety, but in the end, it's the man/woman yelling about being late to a connecting flight and pressuring airlines to keep to a schedule.
@@Ten80pete Not completely true, if they can't or won't cope with the pressure of doing a good job, they should shut up shop and do something else. Upper management is more concerned with the salary and bonuses they get than a few faceless people getting killed every so often. The type of passenger your describing is why most of the world hates Americans, even though the vast majority are good people.
@@1crazypj the Pinto.
i really do hope that he got to finish working on that jag.
What a fantastic show and series. Really great.
Bill the air traffic controller definitely was no help at all!!!!
While working on the
C 17 final drawing changes at McDonnel Douglas, this problem was a topic of conversation. Lady at 15:30 is very hard to understand. Great job on coverage of cargo door latch design problem.
Tower: "how many souls on board"
First O: "multiple"
I flew a lot when I was in the military of course. After watching air disasters no more airplanes for me
What a kick ass mom and dad.
Well done to find out the cause of their sons death.
Damn fine job.
I would like to discuss Kevin Campbell commenting that he was an Engineer and was coming up with re Engineering an existing bad blue print. I've been an Airline Line Mechanic and Commercial Pilot for 40 years, including Inspection and Supervisory roles. I have run into many "Engineers" that can't get the parts to fit back together and take it upon themselves to modify the part, totally wrong and illegal. My point is that both the DC-10 that had hooks to lock the door and pins to lock the hooks and Boeing 747 that had hooks to stop the camming action of the C Locks have had failures. The real solution is to have hooks as per DC-10 or cams as per 747 but you need to have an over center mechanism and then use a camming lock that can't be applied unless the door is closed and locked and will completely destroy the opening mechanism if it tries an unscheduled opening. If this sounds like something that is unlikely then you are not familiar with aircraft design at all. These are not bridges or cars or trains, they are relatively light weight and follow certain doctrines of materials and design when being manufactured. At 7 or 8 PSID think of how many tons of pressure must be against those doors at cruise. These locking mechanisms don't need to be modified, they need a complete re-design. My condolences go out to the Campbell family and their efforts were heroic, I just hope someone gets on these doors and figures out how poorly they were designed in the first place; in other words lets not improve on a bad design. Wipe the slate clean and start over, make a door that works for Gods Sake. My two cents from an Airline Mechanic; list of Boeings I've been on over the years 707,727,737,747,757 and 767, my time in Airforce was on the C-130. I'm not an Engineer but a Licensed Mechanic and know how things are supposed to work.
The thing is, all these instances were many years ago and a lot of stuff has changed in design, maintenance, system safety and more. These things don't happen any more. No, I'm not ignoring the 737 Max - anything designed by people has a chance of failure. But the failures overall have been minimized a great deal, and nobody ignores issues like that any more. All these posts about the NTSB, FAA and airlines being in bed with each other is plain ignorant.
GA/airline mechanic and pilot for 40+ years here so I've seen a few things.
I just booked my flight to New Orleans for April... maybe I should stop watching these videos now...
I watched a lot of them before my flight to the Philippines, didn't bother me. 😉
The ground crewman should have been held responsible too. I know the design had flaws but forcing a latch and just simply believing it to be in a locked position is negligent. He should have asked for ground supervisor to inspect the latch himself.
A lot of the "ramp rats" doing that work had minimal training, or if their supervisors were trained, minimal supervision. They don't have a clue what makes an airplane safe, they're just closing a door.
NTSB has been corrupted by the Airlines......and still is.
What a shame.
Had the parents NOT BEEN financially capable, this case will have just be buried.
Regarding the United disaster. I do not refer to it as an "accident called because it wasn't. I am a Highly-educated retired research engineer. I performed research for the top Engineering national laboratory in the United States. I was greatly disturbed at the fact that politics, not science drove the determinations and actions about the NTSB and the FAA. It continues to this day. Both of these agencies are directly tied to the airline. Many of the federal employees from these agencies look forward to taking early retirement and then taking employment with the airlines or the aircraft industry. As a result, there is a corrupt relationship between the these organizations. There are numerous other incidences where the NTSB report was it was just playing wrong. In addition the FAA often allowed the airline industry to either not perform necessary repairs or to take far too long to do so. Worse is the fact that the NTSB and FAA often used investigators who lacked the technical education and expertise to properly analyze the systems involved. Often they had no engineering support at all or the engineers who were utilized like the competency to understand the systems and circumstances involved. The United case is the norm and not the exception.
You're a retired research engineer, so surely then you can produce evidence of your conclusions. Let's see it.
Will not want to be on a plane with a Captain from management and a rookie co-pilot.
re: Little Rock - the BIGGEST error the pilots made was not diverting. They forgot that SAFETY is the Number One priority, they were more concerned with the schedule. Of course, they also wanted to keep their jobs - a fundamental problem in the US airline industry schedules and PROFITS above all else.
Seriously scary .
Do not mess with a New Zealander .
About this time took off in a 747 from Jan Smuts , Jhb , South Africa . BOAC :-)
Was used the getting the feeling of gear up .
Instead go a massive 'bang ' from behind me , at the back of the plane .
Not a galley rattle .
We continued to climb .
Until , 'This is your captain speaking ' etc etc .
With an addendum .
"Sorry about that loud bang on take off , something that happens on these 'older ' aircraft "
So reassuring .
'There's fire ! Get me my checklist ! ... We're burning to death ! No, get me my CHECKLIST!"
Checklist save lives. 🤷🏽♀️ There are a thousand and one reasons why there is smoke including a large number of minor problems. Checklists are used to rule out problems and locate the source of issue. It's also safer to find the problem in the air than mid landing which is over if the most dangerous times.
Checklists have saved thousands of times more lives than they’ve taken.
That is one of the most horrible things to ever go through and survive those who where flying that air plan did a amazing job and so sad for the 6 people who died
*Nothing to do with the video, but I just had to skip past the ads that popped up. One of the ads was over 30 minutes long! Luckily, I was able to skip it after 5 seconds. I've never seen a 30 minute ad on youtube before. Of all things, it was for the RuPaul Drag Race abomination. As ridiculous as the 30+ minute ad was, the subject matter was even worse. Who wants to bet that they were given an incredible discount for such a lengthy ad? Nasty.
Greed is the most destructive psychological illness that is not even allowed to be defined as such.
Smoke in the cockpit land now
Bill the air traffic controller was worthless!
The presentation of these films is without peer.☮😎.
Cool Vancouver BC production stuff in this series.
Everyone deserves parents like Lee's!!! 😭💔
Every kid deserves a parent…however comma…not every parent deserves a kid
Always infuriates me how be it a medication, an airline or just an intersection on your drive home, many lives have to be lost before the government will intervene.
Statistically privately owned airlines are safer and do better in training and maintenance. Not sure why you'd want the government involved they can't even figure out how to budget.
Priorities are backwards
@@differssmith4434 they have the money and it's not the government that owns the air lines.Rge airlines are the ones that pays off the government to continue their manner of making money at the costs of a few lives. The government could easily write off the expense of endurance of the safety of the airlines. They print the money so really they control the value of the money. So they can borrow from themselves then decide how much they owe themselves.
I got over 150+ hours on Flight Sim and I only got a Cessna down once safely.. I don't even wanna try the bigger planes yet.
I’m from Little Rock. I remember this.
As i watch this... My heart pumps hard 😂😂😂 I'm going home now 😂😂😂
I've seen at least 3 stories of the Boeing outward cargo door dysfunctioning...next time I get on a plane I'm checking the door myself!
Almost everyone of these scenarios, not only in this video but others, happens at night!!!. DONT FLY AT NIGHT!!!
When I first watched the episode regarding Swiss Air flight 111, I hadn't looked up the outcome and was hoping it would be a survival story. During the initial part, I kept thinking, "What in the world are you saying? Where there's smoke, there's fire. Don't be so calm! Land the plane immediately!" Obviously whatever happened, happened, but I couldn't believe the captain didn't realize the urgency of the situation right away. If he'd flown to Halifax immediately after smelling the smoke, it would have given them prescious time to, hopefully, land the plane safely.
Dumping the fuel was also a dumb choice IMO given the urgency of the situation, although they may have all died anyway if he'd not dumped the fuel and landed. However, it would have given them a chance, at least, to escape flames and survive.
When they did the investigation they found out that no matter what he did it wouldn't have changed the outcome. The fire was just too fast and incapacitating. What ticked me off was the airlines reliance on Mylar and not realizing how inflammatory it was. The other thing was that when they shut down the electrical system, it didn't shut down the entertainment system which was where the fire originated.
@@radfem2010 I must have missed the part where they had shut down the electrical system. And, you would think people involved in building aircraft would have better tests for ALL materials for fire safety. I don't understand how the mylar could have possibly passed any anti-inflammatory safety tests that they claim they performed.
@@scootermom1791 Yeah a lot of planes were using Mylar at the time of SwissAir and when they showed a test on it on the documentary I watched, it just went up in flames so fast. They did issue recommendations to remove it from airplanes but there's still probably planes flying that use it. SwissAir did state that it would remove it from their MD-11s but SwissAir went out of business not long afterwards.
@@radfem2010 Too bad other airlines didn't follow suit. I'm sure there are some still flying around that have mylar in them. They even said at the end of this episode that some airlines didn't think it was worth the cost in older airlines, which is really stupid IMO. If they were so concerned about the cost, they should think about how much it costs them when one of THEIR planes crash and they end up going out of business just to save a few dollars.
It couldn't have been a dumb choice because virtually all the moves the pilots made led to virtually all passengers surviving.Pilots are trained to remain calm in the face of emergencies, leading to survival as in this case.
Imagine flying on an old 747 (Introduced 1970) or MD-80 (Introduced 1980) knowing that 4% of the fleet won't make it to retirement.
Or MD-11 (Introduced 1990) too
i was watching train Derailments woke up from and nap.. and this was on
now im oddly invested
man, when non-experts are far better than trained investigators... thats... something...
at least the campbell's had their justice in the end
look at the battle damaged b-17's that limped back into England, planes can take a lot of damage
Oh dear .
Also do not mess with the weather .
Yes things have changed since the RAF Nimrod we were in got hit by lightning , just blew out half that big radar scanner.
No major panic .
Back at the base got to see the nose where most of the radar was situated , behind a 45 mm fibreglass ? Dome .
With a 30mm hole drilled straight through ! :-)
I've never been more than a passenger, but when they talk about being so overweight for landing or even maintaining altitude, why wouldn't they be dumping fuel as soon as possible? Even if that meant dumping without approval, over the top of a nature preserve, protected marine area, downtown Los Angeles, etc and over whatever part of the ocean that they were over?
Couple reasons. Many legal. Also possible that dumping for can cause worse problems of the full extent isn't known. For, explosion, uneven drain, difficulty in knowing if they might need fuel for anything. Huge number of reasons really. The fuel isn't overly helpful and many times must not be dumped in crown locations for international reasons. Basically if no other reason legal problems caused regulations making things difficult.
@@differssmith4434 that all makes sense. Although if weight was an issue that was likely to cause a landing to fail, or basically guarantee death to everybody on board, it seems like human nature would lead almost every person to forget about legal ramifications.
The Little Rock episode has a SUPER chill song they use a few times (example: 1:35:35).
Just, you know, FYI.
0:00 American Airlines flight 1420 (1999) Boeing 747
51:31 United Airlines Flight 811 (1999) Boeing 747
1:43:00 SwissAir Flight 111 (1998) McDonnell Dougulas [MD-11]
Lee’s parent OMG. So so sad..
It is both heart rending and touching that young Lee came to see his parents, if only in their dreams, to smile at them and say good bye...
That being said the root cause of the accident, the use of soft aluminum rather than steel in such an crucial safety point as the safety locks, is ABSOLUTELY INFURIATING. I know nothing of engineering as such but it seems patently obvious that given the danger of an outward opening door in a pressurized area would dictate that the locks be made of steel in the initial build of the planes. Then compound that with the 18 months allowed for this CRUCIAL safety fix constitutes criminal negligence in my opinion on the part of both the airline's and the NTSB. Especially so since the later is supposed to be above such considerations as down time for aircraft and the subsequent loss of revenue. Boeing who designed this very poor system should have been on the hook to reimburse the airlines for the down time.
RIP to the victims of corporate greed.
That Swissair episode always breaks my heart. Such an unnecessary accident
Unfortunately the FAA, NSB, and manufacturers are still playing Russian roulette. 737 Max was the last exposed act.
Thanks OTM❤️
looking at the 747 ..i can t believe it remained in one piece ... feel sooooooo sorry for those who lost their lives on bord..and their trumatized families ..
You could do something 1,000 times , maybe 5,000 times and get away with it .................just that one time , you will get it , and only needs to happen Once ! Have a good flight ???
737 max failed twice before grounding
Hold CEO's liable for people's death and supervisors who pressure for schedule over safety. Then they would make their decisions during the design phase or spend the extra money to save lives.
If it's Boeing I'm not going
U-said-it, bro.!
How can you put in incorrect communications Flight 111 in 1998.
I have a security latch on my hotel door.. does that mean I’m safe forever?? I’ve never gotten so much as a scratch on an airplane but I’ve had my hotel door kicked in by badguys
Hell
Kind of a strawman argument there...
Lee has great parents. Great parents indeed
I don't know why Mr. Campbell looks like an older Lloyd Christmas (Jim Carrey)
But man, the traveling and work they put in, they were NOT playing around! Respect to them, they did their thing. Something not many families would do.
I have flying anxiety and part of its because I know I they don't stay up to date on maintenance. Only one little small thing has to go wrong and the plane can go down. These airlines will take shortcuts anyway they can, it's all about money here in America unfortunately.
Oh my gods! The Racing the storm episode is the flight a choir at my university was in! They were coming home from touring in Germany. They the Ouachita Singers go to Germany most years. All but 2 of the choir survived. Only the director’s daughter (who was still a little kid and was just along for fun) and a dude who died because he went back in to try and save more people. It was the 20th anniversary when I started in2018 and one of the survivors came and talked at a chapel one week
Edit: there were TWO little girls on the plane!? Omg
Edit 2: there were at least THREE children!
The act telling them to start the fuel dump while they’re fight flames is wild.
The parents of the young man killed are to be commended. Wonder how many explanations are not correct? The difference here is the father was an engineer! The company seemed to be covering up the issue by sending the crucial parts to NTSB. They should have been reimbursed for all the expenses the Campbell's incurred. Yes I know they set up a scholarship in their sons memory.
1st story: beside voice/flight data, i can't do anything.
1989 United 811 crash with 333 passengers flight to New Zealand.
Thank God for people like the Campbell's!!
You don't have to be an aviation lawyer to know flames out the engine ain't good.
That was wild
I always wear my seat belt when flying. Even when the I don’t need to unless I need to get up
That American 1420 crash makes me so damned mad. Every damned person in the whole picture making stupid, short term decisions. 😡 That flight should never have left DFW, and should ABSOLUTELY NOT have attempted to land in Little Rock!
The second video shows to me that the Captain totally lost it. Co-pilot seemed to know a wholc lot more.