Plane vanishes over 'Devil's Triangle': Australia's biggest aviation mystery | 7NEWS Spotlight
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2021
- It's Australia’s greatest aviation mystery - unsolved for more than 30 years. A charter flight was full of passengers bound for Sydney from Queensland. Two and a half hours into the flight, in the darkness, somewhere over what’s called ‘The Devil’s Triangle’, because so many planes have crashed there, the Cessna 210 vanished. One minute it was a blip on a radar screen, the next it had disappeared. Hear the harrowing audio from those final minutes and expert opinion on what may have happened.
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My dear friend tragically past away two days ago and I can’t stop watching tragic deaths on RUclips. Morbid I know, I am so distraught. She left two young children. If you see this please hug your loved ones, enjoy the little things and pray for my friend and her family. I would greatly appreciate it!
I am sorry for your. The only thing is time for you to heal
I’m sorry for your loss. Did your friend die to COVID? I lost my precious aunt and she died alone in hospital.
Flying an unserviceable aircraft together with a bad case of get-there-itis and a "she'll be right" attitude is a recipe for disaster ... which is exactly what happened. Bad decision after bad decision and his passengers paid the price of his recklessness with their lives.
When they were reviewing the audio and the older man became emotional it made me cry. Such a sad story
I wonder if lidar technology could help find this missing plane. They’ve used this technology to map ancient ruins under the Amazon rainforest.
I was wondering the same thing.
That would be a good idea
@@britishcolumbiariders1538 something tells me that they don’t want to find it
Lidar won’t penetrate a thick forested canopy. Just hit the tree tops and bounce off
@@user-we8mu7lf6x Lidar is not affected by surface growth it's radar! It has been successfully used to map ruins in the amazon rain forest.
That’s so sad 😭. Lucky the love child was born. Seing his reaction to seeing the footage of his dad was pricless. Breaks my heart ❤️
That's an interesting profile pic! lol I just watch your video on a wasp very interesting!
Seeing her reaction to finally be able to share the man that she loved with his child, is what got me. It made my eyes leak. 😪
Ditto I teared up can you imagine how he felt 🥺 I found it odd though that no one had shown them the last video of them until now. It would be the first thing I'd want to share with the families.
@@seren9613 That is such a delicate subject. What is comfort for one might be torture for another.
@@firewaterbydesign true but they didn't know the video existed. I'd have given them the option, that is all. I'm not condemning anyone I just found it strange.
Frederick Valentich who was a pilot is still missing from 1978 in another unsolved flight mystery between Melbourne and King Island Australia.
Even more mysterious and puzzling if you look into this case.
Can you share a summary? Thanks
@@sperera5916 Very young man on the way to King Island radioed that he was being followed by a strange craft which was above him and described it to the control tower. The tower couldn't see anything on radar. His last transmission was saying the object was coming on top of him and you could hear a metallic like sound. He vanished and his plane.
Witnesses say there was a unusual object in the sky close to him and radar towers including RAaf had tracked an unidentified object around the area.
There's a lot to the case which is fascinating. Cheers
@@atomikmaster1 thanks a lot for taking time for writing.
@@sperera5916 That was a very interesting but creepy case. I wonder if there's any documentaries about it.
It was front page headlines, and never been found, no wreckage no oil slicks.. nothing..
As others have commented the plane should not have been in the air with problems it was encountering. The pilot would have also been aware of the restricted zone... I fly close to Richmond and it is the same deal around that airspace. If the pilot did believe he was in imminent danger he could have advised ATC he would fly through the zone and face the investigation and consequences afterwards although it appears he underestimated the meteorological conditions he was about to encounter. Sad story all the same.
btw I don't believe this is the only unsolved air accident in Australia. There were a couple of missing aircraft lost over Bass Strait which I don't believe have been found, One involving a close family friend and experienced pilot
I remember the story of the plane that went missing over Bass Strait that reported strange lights before his plane went missing. I don't believe they ever found him. But that's not to say they haven't.
Also the valentie incident with the UFO encounter over great ocean road hasn’t been solved, they said this for drama for the show!!! Typical
Ch7 not known for quality research.
@@seren9613.. Frederick Valentich.
This is a truly tragic story, no doubt, and my heart goes out to all the friends and family of these men. But, Australia’s biggest aviation mystery? Seriously? Have they never heard of the Frederick Valentich incident from the 70’s? Now that’s a true mystery. The pilot actually reported being messed with by a UFO, the radio cut out and the guy was never seen or heard from again. They did an episode of that story on Unsolved Mysteries.
Don’t forget the young bloke who disappeared flying south over Bass Straight back in the 70’s i think, maybe early 80’s. Radio transmition records clearly reveal a UFO encounter that is very freaky and pilot and plane simply vanished. Flying small plane from Melbourne, Victoria to Flinders Island, Tasmania i think.
That happened in Michigan too. Over lake superior. From my understanding the jet was never found. It was scrambled to chase an object in the sky. It made contact and was loss. Strange.
Frederick Valentich was the pilot's name. Disappeared over Bass Strait
This plane crashed due to pilot error before taking off, weather conditions brought the misfortune of added pressure by limited route alternatives and the plane did not "vanish" it crashed in dense jungle making it impossible to see from the air.
@@r.martin3494 yes ok, we are talking about the disappearance of Frederick Valentich (thanks pslpom) and his plane that vanished in very weird way. Check out his story, you will be surprised.
Maybe it's because I'm 50 years old this July but I can't stop crying about them and their families. Jesus Christ all mighty! My deepest condolences and my prayers and thoughts to the victims. From the antipodes Oeiras PORTUGAL
Only use the Lords name in prayer and worship of Him.
@@earnold1896 Relax jesus police, he'll be okay
Jose you are clearly a humanitarian. I know lad, this world can fill us all with despair. You are not alone. Don’t take it too hard, the almighty works in mysterious ways.🕊🏴👍
AI and DI gone, no standby AI, no compass, 6000'msa and icing! The poor blokes never had a chance. RIP.
Raffboas
Not the RAAF fault.
Pilot knew he had electrical issues and he was tired.
Never should have taken off.
Sure but in an emergency situation air traffic control should allow a plane the most direct path for them to get to land as fast as possible.
Oh look, another RUclips expert.
How do you know he was tired. You dont know that, because someone said he looked tired thats not fact.
The only unsolved civilian aviation mystery that remains unsolved? Frederick Valentich would like a word with you.
Thinking the same thing. 👍🏻
We know what happened to Valentich, but some people don't like the truth.
He was abducted. Aircraft and all. America just admitted it's AATIP.
Advanced aerospace threat indetification program. And more people have been, and will continue to be snatched off of our planet for a long time to come. Our technology is primative. Good luck.
What’s the mystery here? They were flying over mountains, and at night, which means virtually no visual reference to the ground. Whether they were IFR or VFR, I think you can put two and two together and assume CFIT into the mountains. And given the “unreachable terrain” (in this video’s own words) nobody’s stumbled across the wreckage.
Add instrument failure or partial instrument failure -- referring to the pilot reporting vacuum failure.
No mystery, no devil involved.
@@alanstevens1296 Sad that the pilot ended up ruining so many people’s lives, many decades later. Kind of like Aeroperu 603, the instrument failure and no visual reference to the ground led to hundreds dying, except that this pilot did that voluntarily. Total death wish - RIP.
@@AV4Life
Depending on which instruments failed, it can become impossible to fly on instruments. When that happens in IMC you will buy the farm.
Pilot stated gyro out and he was experiencing icing , and severe turbulence suspect conditions sound like stall
@@kevinconnelly3662
Icing + instrument failure + IMC is a lethal combination.
Only if there was a politician on board ..this wouldn't be a mystery..
You say that and Australia lost a politician at sea and we still don't know what happened, or even found his body.
@@lachlanlandreth9069 yes and that is sad. Its like looking for a needle in an ocean.
Lol right tell that to the families of Hale Boggs and Nick Begich.
Not true. Politician lost in a plane in the Alaskan wilderness 1972 flying from Anchorage to Juneau Alaska.
Many types of people could be assassinated for unknown reasons or motives. Corrupt police or good police knowing too much about powerful crime organizations. Anything like that.
There are so many things that compounded this tragedy and went towards the crash. I pray they find them one day and give the families and friends the closure they so desperately need. Rest in Peace gentlemen 🖤🙏😔
If I had the bucks, I would track with some experts, radar, sonar, new tech and give it a go.
My sincere condolences...tearing eyes...i really hope someone finds the wreck & hopefully solves it....thank you for uploading it & love to know the update😣
Should have declared an emergency immediately the instrument failures started and flown back to and along the coast regardless, especially in weather like that. Pilot at fault.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Absolutely 100%
This plane crashed due to pilot error before taking off, weather conditions brought the misfortune of added pressure and the plane did not "vanish" it crashed in dense jungle making it impossible to see from the air when camouflaged by falling green forest canopy possibly in an almost vertical crash by the end. It was a light aircraft not a small commercial jetliner and that's a big jungle, it's akin to searching for a person in a life vest - bobbing about in deep waves at sea. We can only hope and pray for the relatives that remains are found one day or that they all survived but dispersed suffering amnesia and are happily living a new life nearby still in Australia. 🇦🇺 [By the way the "Devil's Triangle" the world knows of the most is of course off the coast of Bermuda, USA, not this one in Australia... ...Just to allay any reader confusion].
There's also a Melbourne in the USA
Also it says early on in the video this is Australia's only unsolved aviation mystery but ... Frederick Valentich was an Australian pilot who disappeared while on a 125-nautical-mile (232 km) training flight in a Cessna 182L light aircraft, registered VH-DSJ,[1] over Bass Strait on the evening of Saturday 21 October 1978. Reported UFO before vanishing so with everything the Pentagon/ navy confirmed recently I guess we should look into all possibilities for all incidents past and present.
@@nzgamelife323 Journalists are very loose with the truth at the best of times.
You have no idea what you are talking about and if you do you are lying.
Oh I’m so sorry for ya all loss . Seeing those people cry is heart wrenching
Wow. That certainly is going to be hard to find since everything is probably grown over it by now. But one day in the future some adventurous person is going to find the missing plane
@Popeye 200 day top... what? Top that? Tops?
There's no way that it takes 200 days to drop troopers from a Heli a few times. GPS, drop some supplies, etc.
After 30 years, there's a snowball's chance in that very warm place that they'll find anything, right?
That whole area will be concrete and brick in another 100 years with the way population growth is happening. Population has nearly doubled just since that plane went down.
@@Thomas-xe3ce time to abandon the world
@Popeye dont bully her, please be more respectful
@@Thomas-xe3ce 300,000 annually now.
That was a well put together episode, I can't imagine losing a loved one like that with nothing being done in the length of time. So glad I watched this!
Many searches have been conducted over the years. Sadly, finding MDX is even harder than finding the proverbial needle in a haystack. Little to nothing, save the fuselage, would be left. And if it buried on impact, it will be all but impossible to locate. If it’s ever located, it will most likely be by sheer accident.
Anybody else remember the Frederic Valentic case on Unsolved Mysteries? Took off from Morrabbin airport in a small aircraft. Spotted a UFO and then vanished.
Yes, it happened when I was a kid. Remains unsolved to this day.
The comment at 1:40... ‘It’s the only Australian civil aviation incident that’s never been solved.’ Is that right? Well, what about Frederick Valentich who disappeared over Bass Strait, flying a Cessna 182L from Melbourne to King Island on the evening of 21st October 1978? He reported being buzzed by an object he said was ‘not a plane.’ Nothing was ever found of him or his plane. Whatever happened to Frederick Valentich, let us remember him, and may he Rest In Peace, wherever he is.
By that token I should be missing 4 times but I am just two good a Pilot.
RIP boys your loss won't be forgotten...
Thank you for posting it’s too sad ☹️ to watch till the end of video I am stared to cry .Rip to all victims who lost their young life’s tragic and sad in same time ☹️☹️☹️
If the Williams Air Force Base just allowed him to land we wouldn't be watching this video.
Damn the RAAF !!
He should have just landed thats what i would of done
@@lovesallanimals9948
I wonder what would have happened if he did because it is a military base
If those people are died I just want to say your families love you and miss you. May you all Rest In Peace
1981, that would be 40 yrs. RIP to those missing and best wishes for those who are greiving.
2013 I was standing in my backyard 3am having a smoke with my gf we watched a plane fly from Melbourne to Sydney direction as 3 solid
lights/UFO come from 3 seperate directions all crossed paths at the same time , the same time the crossed paths was exactly the same time the 3 crossed paths with the flashing light/plane then they kept going the direction they wer traveling but the plane/flashing lights the 3 UFO crossed paths on disappeared we kept waiting to hear about a flight that didn’t not show up but we never did we watched the 3 UFO solid lights travel the directions they wer already headed but the flashing light we did not see again in the sky just vanished and if anyone knows what a plane looks like at night you can see the light flashing until it’s out of sight these things crossed paths with the plane they kept going the plane DID NOT
Well you know about Frederick Valentich too but I guess in this case it was an iffy plane and impatient pilot.
Sincere condolences to the friends and loved ones of those who lost thier lives. Rest in peace to those who lost thier lives. 🙏
These triangles throughout the world should be avoided. We can't identify what is going on but something is whether magnetic or something else.
Thanks for the interesting content 👍
😳 five thousand gave me chills. I can literally feel the rawness as I listen. Also being a pilot myself meant this was difficult to hear and made the events on this day so long ago feel as real as if it was today.
My sincere condolences to the families 33 years on😔❤️
@@BP-rn3nl mate, you’re a snowflake.
I agree with this man everyone was so frightened, they knew what was coming. It makes me feel horrible in the pit of my stomach. God bless them all!
More stories like this please👍👍 good job guys
i hope somone says that about me , never boring !! fantastic epitaph
So very sad. Thank you for sharing. We hope they can bring closure by finding the plane. Very sad situation.
in the sierras of california over 500 planes have gone down,many never found...same in Nevada,a state with endless mountain ranges over 500 planes missing never found--my friend found a missing jet fighter in northern nevada when they where on their dirt bikes in a remote area that had been missing for years...
My son was born in 1981 and he's 39 yrs old . So this show says it's early & obviously this must be an old show. Sounds like it just happened but was always interested in the Burmuda etc Triangles.
Yeah that's about right im same age roughly. Probably a old re-upload.
He says 33 years ago in the beginning, so 4-5 years.
Same year Wigan Casino closed down. Im no nutter but that seems like 'only last week'.
@@andreamarshall911 It happened in 1981 and they said 33 years ago so I'm assuming this is from 2014 😳
@@daginezho1637 I never did great at the maths😄
My heart goes out to the families of those men. I truly hope that the wreckage is found so there can be closure.
Our Cessna 210 went down near Coffs Harbour in 88-89... brilliant piloting saved our lives...
As for unsolved plane mysteriesin aust. What about the bloke who went missing over bass straight in the mid/late 70s after seeing and reporting strange lights. They never found the wreckage or where he disappeared to from memory. He too vanished from radar and never reappeared, from memory
I don't remember them ever finding he or his plane. That was one of the most bizarre disappearances I'd ever heard of. 😔
Yeah your right, they never found that man.....or the plane wreckage either.
He told ATC that he thought a ufo was stalking him. Its an insane case!
@@frankferriolo9212 I remember that case even though it was so long ago. The UAP stalking him before he disappeared always stuck in my head.
Vale Fred Valentich
@@frankferriolo9212 There is talk it was either a regular commercial flight that he thought was closer, or an RAAF flight .
This really hurt my heart to watch I can't stop sobbing
😪
At this point we do not need to point fingers at who was at fault.
They were all somewhat of daredevils!
We need to truly think about the beautiful lives that are not with us.
Rest in Peace
🍃🕊🍃
Sending condolences and Prayers.
From,
Katrinka
San Francisco Bay Area
Thankyou for your comments much appreciated
So why hasn't someone contacted NASA and asked for an infared scan of the area?
Now, if they were looking for aliens...
No politicians or VIPs in board
VFR into IMC with partial panel at night.. He didn't stand a chance.. RIP
Yeah. Makes you wonder how different aviation is now compared to 30 years ago. Or maybe in regards to this case, he’s just one bad pilot.
With an added case of getthereitis.....
Im from Australia first time ive heard this story but by gee to hear pilot was scary n heart breaking
A pilot with "get-there-itus" making a series of bad decisions.
Definitely a case of get there itus
Definitely wasn't a pilot error, I would've jumped out of the plane if i lost so many controls in fraction of seconds. Its a governmental error that so many planes have to take the mountain route.
The man who said NO should be dragged out of retirement dragged through an investigation then thrown in Jail.
no matter if he is not guilty of breaking a law?
Friends are still emotional after so many years. What a mistery.
I've never been to Australia. But that lady said a huge SNOW cloud. It doesn't SNOW in Australia does it. I researched it online IT DOES SNOW IN SOME PARTS OF AUSTRALIA. Learn something new everyday
In this part of Australia, especially in the alpine regions of Victoria and New South Wales nearer the east coast (as opposed to the desert inland, Northern Territory and Western Australia, for example), it can snow heavily.
The military possess gear which scans the landscape surface eliminating the trees and vegetation. Why don't they use it ? A few days and the job's done .
Good point!
hahahaha, yep, a few days for 30,000 sq km good luck with that idea.
@@gortnewton4765 Well maybe a couple of weeks then . It must be possible .
Watching this breaks my heart it is so tragic I pray that all the passengers are found my heart goes out to the families may all the victims rest in peace 💓💓💓💓💓
The pilot knew Williamtown was there. He knew it was restricted airspace. He knew his instruments were faulty. He knew flying the inland route would be dangerous. He made the decision not to hold. Don't blame the RAAF for his bad decisions.
" critical component on the plane that allows you to fly at night " and the guy wants to blame the airport on the coast for making the guy delay...he had the option to turn back...did he not...nobody forced him onward...why pilot not have GYRO issued resolved before taking off.
He reports flying over Taree which has the capability for him to land. I've often wondered why they didn't turn him back to here (Taree). It is a bizarre series of events that lead to a terrible tragedy. He never should have attempted to fly down once the Gyros etc weren't functioning. But we don't know what was going on re: his passengers. May they all rest in peace. 🙏😔
I'm not an aviator but I believe taking unnecessary risks when flying is often caused by "get homeitis".
@@seren9613 He never declared an official emergency. So they let him push on. This accident has helped train ATC in giving more options to the pilot and escalating an issue even if the pilot does not declare it. Pilots are also more likely to divert and declare an emergency. "Don't be a Hero". "Better to explain why you canceled the flight then for people to try to find out why you didn't"
@@lachlanlandreth9069 Thanks so much for explaining it to me. I didn't realise this case changed things I'm not an expert or a pilot. It's something I wondered about is all.
So sad. Watch Riddle of the Stinson. Australian move, fantastic.
Humans are not Invincible ...
We should try to be smart, but also must know our limits! This is so terrible to even listen....
RIP 💕
Absolutely!
Did y’all hear when he said his compass was spinning like crazy!!! What if they went through a worm hole or something.. only time when A compass does that Is when the earths magnetic field gets disrupted!!!
Sad hope one day they have a answer for the missing .❤️
Sad , this happend and till this day no one found them, i wonder if the use of drones help.
My heart is heavy with grief
VH-WCP is the Cessna 210 used in this video with a VH-MDX sticker over the top.
I noticed that also Piper driver here NSW
Is there a part two to this? Or have they been found yet?
I think this was made in about 2014.
Based on the (limited) flying I've done...
1 - Always, always get the weather report for your planned flight path. And *never* fly a small private plane unless the weather is perfect.
2 - Never fly instrument when your instruments are not working
3 - Never fly into bad weather (especially) in a single-engine piston airplane which cannot fly above a storm
4 - Never fly tired, especially when you just have about 2,500 hours (and only 27 hours on that airplane type)
All told, unfortunately the pilot's fault (100%).
_Also, discovering the plane is extremely difficult in such terrain, the famous aviator Steve Fossett crashed his plane in the Sierra Nevada mountains (which does not have dense vegetation) and a gigantic search effort still did not find his plane. It was found by accident by a hiker much later_
clearly pilot error!
If someone wants to fund a search I'd stay there until it's found.
Yep, 30,000 sq. km of very difficult country - you'd be there for 2 centuries.
How is this the military's fault at all? A pilot with 3,500 hours should know about the restricted airspace, weather and make sure all your instruments are working with preflight checks. The entire cause of this is pilot error. RIP
exactly my thoughts
agreed!
GOD BLESS the missing and the witnesses.......sad.
We got a small plane missing somewhere in Alaska that's got some important government people on it missing for 30 some years and then we got another bigger type playing missing somewhere around lake Erie with about 50 people on it been missing for 50 years
I hope they can found something that can solve this case. Such a sad story, god bless there souls.
Great stuff
So sad 😭💔
Terrible that they did not do a search at the time no matter how dense and difficult. Over time more and more vegetation is going to keep growing on top of it and would be even harder now to find anything. Poor families!
this seems like pilot error to me. if you have to get clearance and that clearance can be denied then the pilor should not have assumed clearance would be granted.
typical coimpounding sequence of events that lots of experienced pilots incist in going a head when they should not. Yea, certain death is sure. Sad to see what happened. RIP
What's "coimpounding"? What's "incist"? Dumb people don't even need to know how to spell these days, the computer does it for you. You see that funny red line under words when you type? That means it is SPELLED wrong!! And that means you fix it!
@@montinaladine3264 oh shut up, you absolute melt. You sound old and outdated, much as your use of the word computer. I understood perfectly what they had to say and it was also factual.
My heart breaks.
Doesn't appear to be a mystery here. The pilot simply made too many bad decisions.
so the plane was good to go even with the known faults, amazing -
Had the military refused the pilot then I could understand it but they hadn't. The pilot new the score with flight planning. Had he stopped over night repaired the aircraft then carried on in day light and better weather .
True, the pilot would have also been pressured by the passengers to get home.
Heartbreaking story
I have never heard of this being called the devil's triangle. The VFR lane nearby sometimes gets called "the worm" following the railway line from Maitland up past Dungog, Stroud and Gloucester. I'm aware Barrington tops is just west of that line. Some of that rail goes through tunnels. Planes are instructed to follow the rail.
It highlights how easily things do turn and quite often with sad outcomes.
And can reach anyone.. tech or money regardless
I would love to find this. My dad went missing on the sea and theres no way my feet can reach under the sea..but this is a land more hope to fined them.
Very sorry for your loss Richard.❤️🇭🇲
I'm sorry for your loss mate.
Sorry 😢 for your loss Richard
Sorry for ya loss bro.
Has LiiDAR been used to scan the area?
19:35 what's that rectangular piece of metal(?) high-up in the bushes ? at the bottom of the screen under the loading bar
might just be water reflection.
I just spotted that and there are 2 separate white things in that section of the video if you look carefully! looks like they are about 20 to 30 yards apart..
Yes, I spotted that too. Just looking through the comments to see if anyone else noticed. Looks very much like the front of a plane to me. Also, it seems like there's a gap in the trees in a pretty straight line behind - maybe where the forest was disrupted as the plane down?
Hum, Auslo is probably right though. Maybe more likely to be water reflection.
@@akkawowa Yes I thought that about the apparent trail cut through too
Thatz iz sad sorry for tha family
I am wondering why haven't there been a full sweep of this area with some high end detecting equipment?
There is equipment that is capable of broad search parameters in the market. Even LiDAR would be able to be used for such a search.
God help them, someone start up a go fund me account and get this damn plane found. There are families grieving for their return home.
Failed instruments on that aircraft seems to have contributed. Flying into a storm. Flying at night all seem to have contributed. Have no idea why they are blaming the RAAF.
Australia's biggest aviation mystery ??? 6 Aussies were on MH370, Australia participated in the biggest and one of the most exensive aviation searches ever, and they have no idea when or why the plane went down. In this incident, they have MAYDAY recording.
This an old story, MH370 hadn’t happened yet.
What about Fredric Valentich, vanished October 1978 over Bass straight??????🤔🇦🇺💥
Yeah i often think about Frederick and his mum and dad. 🙏
1981 is 40 years ago.
Wow .
RIP
Always be safe even a military restriction. Don’t take someone’s word in a life or death situation.
So many strange mysteries
I would've flown into the military air space. What can they do? Warn you? Great! That's when you explain.
Exactly.
Declare an emergency and get down safely.
@@anonincognito617 Exactly what I'm thinking.
It seems as if the pilot was protecting his pride? As if he didn't wanna get a 'strike' on his record or something? And I get it! But in a situation like that you gotta put your pride aside.
@@frankferriolo9212 Would have all been avoided if he included the fact that his primary instruments were kaput when he initially requested clearance, would have put him straight through. Doubly so if he declared an emergency. If I were to guess, rather than an airspace infringement, he was more worried about the fact that he willingly departed with an unserviceable instrument panel into rapidly deteriorating visual conditions coming to light.
Avoidable, but doesn't make it any less sad.
Yes! Sometimes it's much easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. Particularly in this case.
What's that on the ground at 19.36
They should not blame anyone . May they rest in peace 🙏🖤
That plane should never have been in the air, at night time, with broken instruments, in near zero visibility, in stormy conditions. What the hell was the pilot thinking? That was a very old, crumbling plane, to make matters much worse. Makes no sense at all.
Yesh Prabhu, Bushkill, Pennsylvania
Must be something to do with air currents changes in lift.
R.I.P