The mineral may have changed but the cycle (and end result) is always the same: Mineral deposits found > Companies swarm to secure rights > They set up operations > Community booms for 30-50 years > Mineral deposits are depleted > Company packs up shop and leaves > Community economy collapses and area is left polluted by chemicals from mining
You forgot: site declared superfund, company creates shell company to take responsibility of cleanup, shell company declares bankruptcy, taxpayers pay for cleanup
@@antonbruce1241 It's not that they're against the lithium; they are against the WAY they're going about getting it out of the ground! Also, whenever a Chinese company is involved, it is already a lose-lose situation for the locals and the state!
What a deal! I'll take two! Unfortunately, I don't think lithium is a wise long-term investment given its toxicity and difficulty for recycling. It's my impression too many people see lithium as a technology quick-fix without the awareness of its environmental footprint and long-term issues it will likely present in the next few decades. Advancements in sodium ion and graphene would (ideally) yield better alternatives.
@@fjalics Yes in milligram doses. Lithium batteries for EV contain POUNDS of lithium metal. Iron, a required element for hemoglobin in small quantities is toxic to the human body in excess.
Reno is the Biggest Little City in the World! Second Largest in the State of Nevada! Show some respect towards greatest gambling hub in Nevada! I am a UNR EE graduate, so this is near and dear to my heart!
Arabs in La Paz AZ taking all the residents water! The Arabs can't farm in their desert any longer they used up the aquafer and the residents in AZ 's shallow wells have all gone dry ! Why the hell are we selling land to foreigners!!!
@@Patricknab The history of those lands goes a long way back a lot older than that town is and they aren't really considering the Local Tribes and we have another spot in SoCal near a very old Salton Sea.
I grew up in Nevada. Anytime they say they secured funding for housing for mine growth they never finish the projects. They flatten land, put some materials out then pocket the money.
No offense to any tribal folk, but sacred land has lost its zing in the state of Nevada. I would quote a movie about throwing a dart anywhere and hitting some sacred burial site, but u know what I mean.
@@bertanelson8062that ship sailed long ago. Even the claims of ancestral have some hang ups. Many of the indigenous grounds are more East. So having all this ancestral sacred land is kinda bogus. Tribes got pushed there in the 1800s. Not saying it’s not their land at that point, but the sacred would’ve been hundreds of miles east or more where their is now a factory, parking lot, or some families housing district. Very few tribes were actually from that region. Plus the sacred is the land but the location and its topography. We define it as land for the sake of ownership however they never owned the land that was an idea we impressed on them. Sink or swim type of scenario. Not fair but life has and will never be fair. Point is Native American has a very delicate system with the US government, it doesn’t however have sovereignty over said government. If the feds say we are going through here. Yepp it’s happening. What I can’t stand is land seizure for economic purposes. If the value of the land went up so be it. They instantly got beach front property. The businesses use underhand tactics to obtain those lands under value. It should be illegal but the Supreme Court gave it the ruling. I wish they would repeal it because seizures and eminent domain is being grossly abused in the US at this point.
If it’s lithium call it lithium…a brief presentation don’t got time for stupid misleading nicknames. It is not white gold. In any serious scientific sense. White gold is white gold.
I grew up in the oil fields of Oklahoma and you can easily find the effects of fast money and greed .now look at what is left there. If the towns want to see 10 years in the future just look at the coal mines and all of the small towns that turned in to ghost towns because of the toxic waste.
Speaking as someone that lives in coal country no one leaves because of the "toxic pollution". I have never heard someone say they are moving for that reason. No jobs..sure.
Winnemucca should discuss their problem with cities in Alaska's north slope to find out how Alaska dealt with similar problems during peak oil production. Doing so could help them avoid mistakes that Alaskans may have made.
@@seanwatts8342 Right. The problems happen when the locals and state gov't don't plan. By planning ahead (with help from those who've been through it before), they can get the jobs and all the benefits like Alaska did. They'll need help from state government. Hopefully they have smart (not greedy) state government who will do all they can to benefit the locals. The money (i.e. tax credits) and jobs (locals first) come only when laws require or allow them. Companies don't voluntarily do what benefits the locals. They're in it to make the most profit. That's fine for the investors but the owners of the local lands deserve the benefits before anyone else. That's the way Alaska did it and, for years, Alaskans paid no state tax at all and got the good jobs.
Stopping farms from having water in Idaho for this right now, food shortages with food shortages on the rise. They need to slow down a bit and let this be less dramitic for all concerned.
Holy cow! Save the cows and the farmers and our land before the anti American movement takes over! We need to raise more awareness! The media twist words and manipulate the masses to fit the narrative they made an oath to protect! They twist words to justify their intention sometimes using their scriptures to gain more power from the masses and profit from whatever they choose. 🤮 How? Invest in anything that is good that you love and find a higher spiritual leader or path of truth and protection and in a rif you aren’t involved in a church type of religion, game, organization, or business that you love and get involved to learn and practice and understand the obstacles and how to avoid them before you create your masterpiece!
Reno - major city? Yes in the context of the state of Nevada folks. There are only 2 cities in Nevada that have a university, a hospital with a trauma center, an international airport, an FBI field office, a federal court house, and a stadium oh and multiple walmarts, costco and sams club....thats Las Vegas and Reno. Everything else is small town.
It's actually not a recent discovery. The initial mineral exploration of the site was done in the 60's or 70's when energy prospecting for Uranium recognized the lithium deposit as what at the time was considered an interesting but non-focus by-product.
That’s correct. The research to find a commercial way to process the clay-based lithium has gone through a couple iterations. The one finally chosen by LAC is a well established one used widely in minerals processing, so unlikely to pose any risk of failure in the production
That’s correct. The research to find a commercial way to process the clay-based lithium has gone through a couple iterations. The one finally chosen by LAC is a well established one used widely in minerals processing, so unlikely to pose any risk of failure in the production
That’s correct. The research to find a commercial way to process the clay-based lithium has gone through a couple iterations. The one finally chosen by LAC is a well established one used widely in minerals processing, so unlikely to pose any risk of failure in the production
On a trip to the oil fields in the Dakotas, I learned about the fatal flaw in the rapid development of natural resources. The problem is that the income generated for the local and state governments is considered temporary even if it is expected to last for decades. This means that the funding for growth is done in the form of grants and short-term funding. This means there will be funding for things but not for people. In other words, police vehicles will be funded, but law enforcement officers will receive little or no funding. It creates a situation that destroys the quality of living for residents.
The growth is generally taxed, to provide the long term part of the “people” element you describe. Short term funding is short because it’s believed that taxation will fill the need gap. Sadly, it rarely works out that way, because much of those critically important funds are siphoned off by improper diversion to other projects. Political corruption also steals a significant chunk, especially because most politicians don’t focus on anything beyond their potential next election term.
This is wildly untrue. I work in Watford North Dakota and the taxes they collect are mind blowing. Roads, schools, event centers; all new and extravagant. Infrastructure has been greatly improved for local residents. Please stop spewing this non sense. North Dakota is extracting over 1.1 millon barrels a day. You don't have to be good at math to understand what kind of tax revenue is generated there.
it really is up to the local municipals to make or break this windfall. if they don't have a long term plan for the increased taxes that will roll in, yea the money will dry up. but if they are looking economically forward and work with investors, they will secure a bright future for themselves.
My brother lives in Midland TX, and over the last decades, he has described the problems resulting from the move to fracking in the oil fields. Cost of living increases. Lack of housing. Lack of teachers, police, firepersonnel. Infrastructure degredation (mostly highways).
I suppose the 15M+ illegals that Biden let in to vote in the 2024 election has nothing to do with the population increase cost of living homelessness lack of resources ect. Letting in 15k a day for 4yrs and giving them free everything for 5yrs isn't sustainable. If you want to dispute that go to DHS and read everything they are giving illegals for 5yrs while citizens go without
Southern Colorado land is really cheap but a lot of the water sources seem to be poisoned with high concentrations of methane resulting from fracking. Dude's pump house blew up, yo.
I lived in Winnimucca at one time. As well as McDermitt. I redid the "White Horse saloon" that straddles the Oregon/Nevada line in McDermitt. Most of that area is home to the Paute inian nation. I remember we visited an abandoned mine in McDermitt at one time. LOTS of open country. Also of note is that the largest aquifer in north America is the Lahontan aquifer, part of the Lahontin sink. There are great deal of geographic things going on in that area.
@@lorenjackson8961 now that sounds about right, the largest aquifer being in the western portion of the country that's pretty much an arid/semi arid desert (the pnw being the exception) didn't set right with me.
@@lorenjackson8961 and ALL the clean water from the Aquifers are supposed to be GONE in 33 years. LDS #DEZNAT has moved there en masse, to grab control of the water. By owning the judges. ;(
I've rode my motorcycle through this area for years and it will be interesting to see how this changes over time as this project evolves. I'm all for change if necessary but it's sure a bummer to watch small towns get consumed with new growth. It's more irritating that China already has it's fingers in the pot!
It is outrageous that they were given rights to mine in the first place. Rediculous that they can mine it in US then sell it back to US at extortionate prices, not to mention that they can leaverage huge concessions from your corrupt government. FJB Regards from South Africa
Lithium is a gen 2 battery material, today research on gen 3, 4 & 5 materials. From easily accessible sodium to recycled plastics. Which may render lithium an outdated commodity before the mine enters full production.
They've been saying this for literally two decade and yet its still lithium batteries that are mass adopted. Just because they are researching them doesn't mean they will be economically viable. I can still remember how graphene was going to make lithium obsolete and low and behold its not economically feasible because of how hard it is to produce.
@@123chargeitjust because something happened before doesn't mean it will keep happening for eternity. Lithium batteries showed up one day and so will the next one, rendering Lithium obsolete overnight.
The end of the church age happened in 1988. The end of the age of grace happened on May 21, 2011 { you were warned }! 'The fullness of the gentiles be come in ' (God's elect) and the door to heaven was shut on the 17th day of the second month, 7000 years to the very day after the door to Noah's ark was shut in 4990BC. Judgement day on the world also began on May 21, 2011. And it shall come to pass in that day, a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor. Zec 14;13 Tumult = disbelief & confusion Division is the result for the destruction of mankind. Have you read the news lately? It is every nation and religion, politics, economics, sciences, sports, entertainment, even between the sexes. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; Pr 1; 24-26 Fear, and the pit, and the snare are upon thee O inhabitant of the earth. Isaiah 24;17 Lithium or any other battery tech is the least of mankind's problems. ...should have READ THE BOOK! spoiler alert: 2033 = 'last day' curious? look up Ebiblefellowship
Gentlemen: I am a retired physics professor from Stanford, and the statement of another man regarding the phasing out of a massively critical need for Lithium has already been accomplished. It shall still be needed but just not as all consuming.
Hi, I have been part of the Stanford community since 1982. I am sad what has happened to Stanford, they went woke and the corruption is unbelievable. Never believed this can could occur. Anyhow just a symptom of the USA political environment. Left Palo Alto and we are happy living rural and building a new America first community based on the USA constitution.
As an expert in sustainability and energy, and a resident of nevada/ ex employee of tesla panasonics, giga-Factory i made the cathode on all 2070 and 2080 batteries. lithium is not even the majority of an efficient ev battery, let alone used for a storage the cell degradation rate is too fast.
Minute 4:58 "North Carolina also has lithium in hard rock, but mining there would require moving people out of houses, rezoning and all kinds of other complexities. But, companies are still trying." "...moving people out of houses.....moving people out of houses....moving people out of houses....." Ad infinitum. But, what if the houses themselves were moved....destroyed ....flooded.....removed from their foundations.....broken apart in the flood waters of...... "Helene, Helene, Helene, Helene....please dont take my house...just because you can..." Sung to the tune of Dolly Parton's Jolene.....
@@Bfould3120 thank you 🙏! It was taken over by the Lazy P Farm, and has been featured numerous places now! I truly consider it to be one of my best to date! And yes, I am also a railfan! I have a video of the Loram rail grinder going from Winnemucca to Rye Patch a couple weeks ago that I need to get uploaded!
When I was in Afghanistan Starts and Stripes news paper had a two full pages of the USGS survey done and estimated over a trillion dollars of Lithium and other precious gems in Afghanistan alone. The end of the article said Afghanistan could be the next Saudi Arabia of lithium the reserves are that large. and there's no EPA or pesky regulations to worry about.
The problem revolves around the fact that worldwide open trade seems to be going away in the not too distant future. If we are to continue down the "green" path, we need to source critical strategic minerals domestically or with strong allies, with whom trade routes can be more easily protected. Nothing about Afghanistan is easy.
If you want affordable housing Pumicecrete is by far the best building material on the planet Pumicecrete is a mixture of pumice cement and water mixed and poured into a set of reusable forms walls are poured from 12"to 24" thick pumicecrete is fireproof termite proof rust rot and mold proof and has a high R value and good sound attenuation solid poured walls means no critters can live in your walls Pumicecrete can be built for a fraction of the cost and time and pumice is one of the few building materials that can go directly from the mine to the job site ready to use without any additional possessing and zero waste Take care Ray
sounds great, but a big problem with concrete is the need for rebar which will rust over time, and the type of sand it needs is finite and hard to source/move
I understand the mayor’s distress because I used to live in an area that was left relatively to itself until people from out-of-state arrived to make their homes there.
Dude, chill. Commenter is expressing a feeling. Not being overwhelmed by it or even saying its wrong. Not everything has to be an internet battle.@kevincinnamontoast3669
Actually, Elon Musk said that the batteries should be called Nickel Batteries instead of Lithium Batteries because they are composed of a much bigger proportion of Nickel...of which we have very little. There are some important Nickel deposits in Alaska that are just now being developed.
@@marleymarl0 there are 5 critical minerals in EV production that that lithium, cobalt, manganese, nickel and graphite. The US imports a sizable chunk of all 5. If imports are disrupted, this could endanger "green technologies". If we desire to continue down the "green" path, we need to endeavor to reliably source these and other strategic minerals either domestically or with strong allies. Great paper on this : sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R47227.pdf
Nevada already has bad water from mining with things like uranium and arsenic, I would hate to see it get worse! That area could seem out in the middle of nowhere, but it is also beautiful. Thank you for this video.
Another seldom mentioned aspect is that very little of the mineral wealth will actually go back to Nevada and its residents. Indigenous people will get virtually nothing.
There is no "seem". It is out in the middle of nowhere just like Yucca Flats, which Harry Reid stopped from being utilized even though it is the best storage place for nuclear waste in the world.
That's a good point, but I'll take what I can get. It's not just an AI generated content farm, and it wasn't a lie. They're competing for views with text to speech bs and complete and utter lies, and also doing their own interviews instead of just recycling other people's footage. I can understand why they would reel you in a bit. @@polarbear128
Interesting how does this lithium mine compare to the one discovered by the salton sea in southern California? There was a lot of hype surrounding that mine as well.
Lithium is definitely not the main ingredient in lithium batteries, it's about 10% at best. Honestly, lithium will rise for the time being, but most likely start to tank as newer battery technologies come online in mass scale. It's definitely a heavily needed resource in large quantities, but I wouldn't say this is the "lithium age." If anything cobalt will be a bigger driving factor than lithium due to its scarcity in comparison to lithium. Great video though and very informative!
LFP batteries are taking over from NMC batteries. LFP need no cobalt and are only limited by the lithium supply as the other ingredients are more readily available.
We have a bumper sticker up here: It's NE-VA'-DUH...not NE-VAH-DUH (though the "cat" thing is pretty good, too!) For Nevadans, hearing NE-VAH-DUH is like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard!
It’s so crazy to see my hometown on youtube, great video! This development of the mine has been pretty controversial in recent years, mainly due to either environmental concerns or tribal concerns with our Paiute tribe. Our mayor mentioned something that I think a lot of locals in Winnemucca worry about, it’s gonna make our town grow. Which our town is and has already been growing because of gold mines, but there seems to be a general consensus of keeping our town rather small. We only have a population of about 7000-10000. He even mentioned Reno, which when my grandpa was young, it was 3x+ the size smaller than it is now! So I’m curious of how it’s going to change Winnemucca, kind of worrying to think about haha.
Well, Reno has been a landing place for transplanted Californians for decades. Now you have all the industry sprouting up and it's getting larger and more expensive to live there.
Take a before-and-after look at Williston, North Dakota, which boomed with serious development (then slowdown) of the Bakken shale oil fields. It'll be a real change, some opportunities, and lots to keep an eye on! 😎✌️
every city in the US will continue to grow over the next ten years as a whole. It will have ups and downs but population growth is everywhere and there are no houses left with the way things are. People are moving out of cities to smaller towns everywhere now and the cities continue to grow. Its not whether the town will grow, its how fast will it grow. So many everyone just doesnt want to see fast growth.
I hitchhiked highway 140 and 95 a few times back when I was doing farm work in Oregon about a decade ago. This part of the country has an underrated beauty I appreciate more every time I pass through. This was one of the last untouched places, I'm sorry for the people who hold this land in such deservedly high regard.
I hate to see small towns go away too, but nothing stays the same forever. No here in America at least. I loved my little city in the South until it became a suburb of the nearest major city and it exploded into a traffic nightmare and crime went up and it got taken over by people from the coasts. The whole area is unrecognizable. Most people who had been living there forever left for small cities in Maine or Vermont. I went to Indiana. When you got something good be prepared for everybody to move into town so they can get some for themselves.
You must have not gotten out much then. Moved here 16 years ago from southern ca and while we like the small town slow down type mentality it’s definitely not 1966.
Ok this is super great but when YOU just mentioned the bane Fang it sounds Chinese and nothing g against the Chinese but if it’s a corporation originated from China WHY ARE WE once again still willing to let other countries like China interfere with our own countries valuable resources why?? Do you not see that Americans want American ones companies why is Nevada so ready and willing to outsource our American land that many of our ancestors and families fought to keep our nation great and sovereign why? I would ask the American people of Nevada to object to having foreign entities come into our country and dominate our resources. Question? Could we own or dominate on Chinas natural resources? The answer is NO so why are governors and senators and representatives so ready and willing to sell off our wealth especially to a country that threatens our nations sovereignty why? People of Nevada need to be against this and now!
True, but you do realize that Mother Nature is stronger than anything humans can do, if what we do makes nature uncomfortable it could quite literally end us in no time
I don't know who you are, but sodium-ion batteries are coming along nicely. Sodium makes up 1% of the world's oceans. Salt is sodium chloride, and there is a lot of salt in seawater. So there will never be material shortages for that battery type.
Thank you, that was Interesting. The Salton Sea, East of San Diego, California has a lithium mining project planned to be starting soon. It will be drilling, on an angle, under the sea to reach the lithium. Do you know about that project?
They are the same mining company drilling in Bolivia's Dead sea and Utah's Great Salt Lake and the Sevier River Valley and outside of Moab Utah. I found Bolivia's first and then traced it to the Salton Sea and then traced it to Utah and that is where I found the corruption. That company paid off Utah's local politicians to the tune of 40MM dollars to make up a drought lie to pump water to the GSL and drain our reservoirs. The Dead Seas actually have the highest grade Lithium because of the mud composite. So much more to this than we may ever know behind the political lies.
i drove right through there a few weeks ago and was amazed by how desolate it was . no cell service almost the whole time, didn't see anyone on the roads, if i had broken down i would have been screwed. BFE, Nevada
If the wells are carved in horizontal stages. Then the processed clay can be put back in to create watertight reservoirs that can boost water supply and feed pumped hydro storage in areas where no mining underneath is going to compromise stability.
EXACTLY.... They wont, they don't care about water supplies. Utah is draining our reservoirs. This is literally a very deep discussion. I have been into this in Utah for the last nearly 4 years and what we uncovered are years of disgusting corruption.
The argument that we need to damage and pollute the environment in the name of clean energy is absolutely bizarre. But technology never flows in reverse, so this has been preordained for a long time.
I'm not sure why it's bizarre. Weather is everywhere, the atmosphere covers the entire planet. The Caldera is little over 400sq miles. Small sacrifice.
A native plant in that area was listed over a year ago as endangered by Fish and Wildlife Service and Bureau of Land Management. Known as Tiehm's Buckwheat, it is uniquely adapted to thrive in lithium rich soils. Doesn't look like they're doing anything to protect it. Mining company most likely would rather pay the fines rather than putting money into mitigation.
I worked in Winnemucca for several years at the gold mines (Twin Creeks, Getchell, Florida Canyon, etc). This lithium boom won't really be all that much different. There will be "booms" and "busts" like always and people will come and go with the rising and falling fortunes of the commodities markets. Could actually be very good for Winnemucca and help balance the political structure of the state to counter the influx of those fleeing other high tax and less free states to the no state income tax haven of south Nevada. Should be rather interesting to see the demographics shift once again.
He is a bit snide about Winnemucca and nowhere. Once that open space - which looks like nothing to urban people- is beautiful and great to have, as are tiny towns like Winnemucca and Paradise.
City people are, in general, very uppity and think they're both smarter and better than those of us from rural America. I've lived on and off in both environments so I've seen both sides of the fence as it were. Most city folks will be unable to survive a catastrophe that wrecks civilization.
Those who live in the country should be the first opportunity of employment to those who don't live in these countries. And must be a citizen of the united state of America.
Washington State worked out agreements with tribal governments to allow gaming on tribal lands. It proved to have continuing wealth creation without severe disruption. I'm sure a lot of work went into making it as successful as possible. Some tribes failed to capitalize while others thrived. A lot of the success depended on proximity to population centers and tourist destination proximity as well. In the west side of the state, Muckleshoot tribes are experiencing growth and continued investment.
The same thing happened in California in the Salton Sea near Mexico. It's all about investing in the mining, processing, and getting that lithium out to use for EV batteries. That's the thing it takes time, money, facilities, and jobs. If done right, the area can be vastly improved with all those royalties.
Geothermal tapping would make a more sustainable infrastructure than mining. There should ba a clause, mandating that their power be produced by geothermal at that location and if they abandon the area and take the jobs with them then their portion of a fund matched geothermal resource is forefeited to the municipal party unless evidence reveals sustainment of employment comparable to the mining employmment disruption.
@@trashking1867 Yes..because the government and corporate entities never have nor never could not never would conspire to get more people out of the area to mine a larger swath of land..bud.
They'll need to dig and sell this lithium fast. It appears that silicon is coming online as the replacement for lithium anode because it holds 24 times the electrons that lithium holds making for higher energy density and it allows for faster charging. This could be a very short boom/bust cycle.
I think you have got confused somewhere. Silicon doesn't replace lithium. Silicon replaces graphite. Silicon batteries use just as much lithium. The lithium is the active ingredient. The silicon is part of the support structure.
Wow, well done on the geologic explanation and covering all aspects of the new lithium boom in that area. If you drive US Route 95 at night through that area, you can see the lights of all the drill rigs working 24/7, exploring for lithium. Great Video!
Obama set up geo.thermal energy plant in Nev. Uses wholly owned technology from Israelis and then we buy the Energy from them. Zero footprint. Fascinating technology. It could prolly be co.produced a mining.
I drive boise to sac very often and frequent this area. Seen that road sign protest a bunch of times, didn't think much about it. Thanks for the video!
The paradox of environmentalism: Demand that fossil fuel use end immediately. Also, oppose every mine which would provide metals for electric vehicles. At the same time.
I support this as a peruvian. We have also lithium deposits in the south of the country. but I would prefer not to exploit them, since the company that owns that land is canadian and canada repeatedly has threatened peru if our goverment tries to make a new deal or even tries to protect native land. maybe in american soil there will not be a need to produce from our country and people won't be affected avoiding to deplete freshwater.
I think even if they can keep drug use down that the sex trade will pick up with so many mining & construction jobs. Everything I’ve read about lithium is that mining isn’t the problem, it’s refining and the byproducts that is the issue. America used to have some refining but pollution issues made it too expensive. I think eventually the Chinese will have to address the byproducts of all the lithium refining they are doing. I think that what lithium is mined here in the USA still gets shipped to China for refining unless it has changed.
This project is a processing and refining plant there is very little mining. Battery grade lithium carbonate is the final product coming out of Thacker Pass
Wait I thought we were in the Information Age? Or as a few people have said the Glass Age… Can we please call it what it really is and will be called? The Petroleum Age!?!
Knowing Nevada the Chinese will be allowed to come in and mine it while only paying 5% back to the state. That's the norm. Foreign owned mines taking all the resources with little to no return to the state. ps Winnemucca is a cool little town.
My brother-in-law is a corporate attorney here in Los Angeles and is working with one of these lithium companies doing biz in this region drawing up contracts etc. I'm not sure which company but I will see him on Turkey day and will recommend that he watch this video. Great info and well produce - Good Job !!!
Hydrogen is a bad idea for cars. It uses 3x as much electricity as a battery car. It's only worth using hydrogen for situations where weight or refuelling time are absolutely critical above all other concerns. For cars people just need to take a break from driving and top up their battery for 15 mins at a fast charger.
The mineral may have changed but the cycle (and end result) is always the same:
Mineral deposits found > Companies swarm to secure rights > They set up operations > Community booms for 30-50 years > Mineral deposits are depleted > Company packs up shop and leaves > Community economy collapses and area is left polluted by chemicals from mining
You forgot: site declared superfund, company creates shell company to take responsibility of cleanup, shell company declares bankruptcy, taxpayers pay for cleanup
YEP!
B.S. companys spend big money to reclaim the land after mining is complete. You need to update your brain.
Okay, so...how do you suggest the world get the lithium necessary for all the batteries needed to store electricity? Just get it from China?
@@antonbruce1241
It's not that they're against the lithium; they are against the WAY they're going about getting it out of the ground! Also, whenever a Chinese company is involved, it is already a lose-lose situation for the locals and the state!
What a deal! I'll take two!
Unfortunately, I don't think lithium is a wise long-term investment given its toxicity and difficulty for recycling. It's my impression too many people see lithium as a technology quick-fix without the awareness of its environmental footprint and long-term issues it will likely present in the next few decades. Advancements in sodium ion and graphene would (ideally) yield better alternatives.
What toxicity? I think you are confused. Lithium is used to treat certain mental disorders.
@@fjalicswe’re talking about lithium ion batteries….Would you prefer Li+, instead? 🤦🏻♂️
@@fjalics Yes in milligram doses. Lithium batteries for EV contain POUNDS of lithium metal. Iron, a required element for hemoglobin in small quantities is toxic to the human body in excess.
Also the fact that new battery technologies are a gatantee. We will find something comproble or better.
@@fjalicslithium yes is toxic many medications are toxic.
"I'd hate for us to grow to the point where we're like, a major city. Like Reno."
That cracked me up.
Reno is the Biggest Little City in the World! Second Largest in the State of Nevada! Show some respect towards greatest gambling hub in Nevada! I am a UNR EE graduate, so this is near and dear to my heart!
@@meganegan5992 I have been in Reno - but I live in New York City. Now THIS is a big city !!!!!!
yeah hes gotta go!
This is why we like mayor Stone
@@SCJO24 Why he has to stay...
No foreign country should own American land. Period
Relax they already do.
you also foreigner lol in America all foreigner if you are native America that's other subject
Canadians (and I) own LAC. …and I’m fine with Canada.
Arabs in La Paz AZ taking all the residents water! The Arabs can't farm in their desert any longer they used up the aquafer and the residents in AZ 's shallow wells have all gone dry ! Why the hell are we selling land to foreigners!!!
@@Patricknab The history of those lands goes a long way back a lot older than that town is and they aren't really considering the Local Tribes and we have another spot in SoCal near a very old Salton Sea.
I grew up in Nevada. Anytime they say they secured funding for housing for mine growth they never finish the projects. They flatten land, put some materials out then pocket the money.
Why am I not surprised.
No offense to any tribal folk, but sacred land has lost its zing in the state of Nevada. I would quote a movie about throwing a dart anywhere and hitting some sacred burial site, but u know what I mean.
@@just_bright That's how it is for a colonial settler society. The natives don't want you here. Period. One day they will prevail.
@@bertanelson8062 sure bud
@@bertanelson8062that ship sailed long ago. Even the claims of ancestral have some hang ups. Many of the indigenous grounds are more East. So having all this ancestral sacred land is kinda bogus. Tribes got pushed there in the 1800s. Not saying it’s not their land at that point, but the sacred would’ve been hundreds of miles east or more where their is now a factory, parking lot, or some families housing district. Very few tribes were actually from that region. Plus the sacred is the land but the location and its topography. We define it as land for the sake of ownership however they never owned the land that was an idea we impressed on them. Sink or swim type of scenario. Not fair but life has and will never be fair. Point is Native American has a very delicate system with the US government, it doesn’t however have sovereignty over said government. If the feds say we are going through here. Yepp it’s happening. What I can’t stand is land seizure for economic purposes. If the value of the land went up so be it. They instantly got beach front property. The businesses use underhand tactics to obtain those lands under value. It should be illegal but the Supreme Court gave it the ruling. I wish they would repeal it because seizures and eminent domain is being grossly abused in the US at this point.
$1.5 trillion? Wow, that could finance the federal deficit for 150 days.
If it’s lithium call it lithium…a brief presentation don’t got time for stupid misleading nicknames. It is not white gold. In any serious scientific sense. White gold is white gold.
Tell me you don't understand economics without telling me you don't understand economics
@@arnoldbioursckii6639DO YOU VOTE BLUE??????
@@ILikePi31415926535 It was a joke, and a good one at that.
That's pretty good compared in size to the rest of the country.
I grew up in the oil fields of Oklahoma and you can easily find the effects of fast money and greed .now look at what is left there.
If the towns want to see 10 years in the future just look at the coal mines and all of the small towns that turned in to ghost towns because of the toxic waste.
100%
@@WinsNap66 "green" is code for the new label on the same bottle.
Indeed
There are large mines already surrounding these towns. They know what's in the future.
Speaking as someone that lives in coal country no one leaves because of the "toxic pollution". I have never heard someone say they are moving for that reason. No jobs..sure.
Winnemucca should discuss their problem with cities in Alaska's north slope to find out how Alaska dealt with similar problems during peak oil production. Doing so could help them avoid mistakes that Alaskans may have made.
"Problems" such as money and jobs...
@@seanwatts8342 Right. The problems happen when the locals and state gov't don't plan. By planning ahead (with help from those who've been through it before), they can get the jobs and all the benefits like Alaska did. They'll need help from state government. Hopefully they have smart (not greedy) state government who will do all they can to benefit the locals. The money (i.e. tax credits) and jobs (locals first) come only when laws require or allow them. Companies don't voluntarily do what benefits the locals. They're in it to make the most profit. That's fine for the investors but the owners of the local lands deserve the benefits before anyone else. That's the way Alaska did it and, for years, Alaskans paid no state tax at all and got the good jobs.
The prime mistake that was made was approving the projects to begin with.
@@LittleRayOfSnshine69 Crazy comment.
You ever do work up there? I see the job posting for electricians. Not sure if it’s worth all the cons
Stopping farms from having water in Idaho for this right now, food shortages with food shortages on the rise. They need to slow down a bit and let this be less dramitic for all concerned.
Holy cow! Save the cows and the farmers and our land before the anti American movement takes over! We need to raise more awareness! The media twist words and manipulate the masses to fit the narrative they made an oath to protect! They twist words to justify their intention sometimes using their scriptures to gain more power from the masses and profit from whatever they choose. 🤮 How? Invest in anything that is good that you love and find a higher spiritual leader or path of truth and protection and in a rif you aren’t involved in a church type of religion, game, organization, or business that you love and get involved to learn and practice and understand the obstacles and how to avoid them before you create your masterpiece!
Sounds like a Chinese company with an American front company.
Hopefully not
lol
Exactly what it is
Hillary clinton sold the mining rights. It was huge news around here they kept quiet
It is.
There was a time when 'off the grid' meant no electricity. Apparently, now it means no cellphone service.
Less passive surveillance which most of the World will suffer with.
I have T-mobile so apparently I have been *_OFF THE GRID FOR YEARS!!!_*
Jeez. So pedantic. You know what he means.
it also means no city water or wastewater. Home Power was a magazine dedicated to off grid renewable living.
@@bamwaanybody who lives 15 minutes outside a town has a well and their own septic
Reno - major city?
Yes in the context of the state of Nevada folks.
There are only 2 cities in Nevada that have a university, a hospital with a trauma center, an international airport, an FBI field office, a federal court house, and a stadium oh and multiple walmarts, costco and sams club....thats Las Vegas and Reno. Everything else is small town.
It's great isn't it. A lot less morons too.
Some people in the New York metro area have never seen the ocean.
It's actually not a recent discovery. The initial mineral exploration of the site was done in the 60's or 70's when energy prospecting for Uranium recognized the lithium deposit as what at the time was considered an interesting but non-focus by-product.
At last someone who knows about surveying - Most of the US has been surveyed as has much of the worlds surface and even under the sea..
The discovery was the tech to mine it since it is clay.
That’s correct. The research to find a commercial way to process the clay-based lithium has gone through a couple iterations. The one finally chosen by LAC is a well established one used widely in minerals processing, so unlikely to pose any risk of failure in the production
That’s correct. The research to find a commercial way to process the clay-based lithium has gone through a couple iterations. The one finally chosen by LAC is a well established one used widely in minerals processing, so unlikely to pose any risk of failure in the production
That’s correct. The research to find a commercial way to process the clay-based lithium has gone through a couple iterations. The one finally chosen by LAC is a well established one used widely in minerals processing, so unlikely to pose any risk of failure in the production
On a trip to the oil fields in the Dakotas, I learned about the fatal flaw in the rapid development of natural resources. The problem is that the income generated for the local and state governments is considered temporary even if it is expected to last for decades. This means that the funding for growth is done in the form of grants and short-term funding. This means there will be funding for things but not for people. In other words, police vehicles will be funded, but law enforcement officers will receive little or no funding. It creates a situation that destroys the quality of living for residents.
Unfortunately no one cares. Not being a D but that is the reality.
The growth is generally taxed, to provide the long term part of the “people” element you describe. Short term funding is short because it’s believed that taxation will fill the need gap. Sadly, it rarely works out that way, because much of those critically important funds are siphoned off by improper diversion to other projects. Political corruption also steals a significant chunk, especially because most politicians don’t focus on anything beyond their potential next election term.
This is wildly untrue. I work in Watford North Dakota and the taxes they collect are mind blowing. Roads, schools, event centers; all new and extravagant. Infrastructure has been greatly improved for local residents. Please stop spewing this non sense.
North Dakota is extracting over 1.1 millon barrels a day. You don't have to be good at math to understand what kind of tax revenue is generated there.
it really is up to the local municipals to make or break this windfall. if they don't have a long term plan for the increased taxes that will roll in, yea the money will dry up. but if they are looking economically forward and work with investors, they will secure a bright future for themselves.
so you mean to tell me that this whole green new deal is a giant ponzi scheme and scam? who would of known.
My brother lives in Midland TX, and over the last decades, he has described the problems resulting from the move to fracking in the oil fields. Cost of living increases. Lack of housing. Lack of teachers, police, firepersonnel. Infrastructure degredation (mostly highways).
I suppose the 15M+ illegals that Biden let in to vote in the 2024 election has nothing to do with the population increase cost of living homelessness lack of resources ect. Letting in 15k a day for 4yrs and giving them free everything for 5yrs isn't sustainable. If you want to dispute that go to DHS and read everything they are giving illegals for 5yrs while citizens go without
And Oregon says hold my beer!!!!
That's the fault of the politicians not taxing the businesses in order to provide those services and infrastructure.
At least he lives in Midland and not Odessa.
Southern Colorado land is really cheap but a lot of the water sources seem to be poisoned with high concentrations of methane resulting from fracking. Dude's pump house blew up, yo.
I lived in Winnimucca at one time. As well as McDermitt. I redid the "White Horse saloon" that straddles the Oregon/Nevada line in McDermitt. Most of that area is home to the Paute inian nation. I remember we visited an abandoned mine in McDermitt at one time. LOTS of open country. Also of note is that the largest aquifer in north America is the Lahontan aquifer, part of the Lahontin sink. There are great deal of geographic things going on in that area.
Yeah which should be polluted in no time
The largest Aquifer in the United States is actually the Ogallala Aquifer in the central part of the country...not the Lahontan one.
@@lorenjackson8961 now that sounds about right, the largest aquifer being in the western portion of the country that's pretty much an arid/semi arid desert (the pnw being the exception) didn't set right with me.
@@lorenjackson8961 and ALL the clean water from the Aquifers are supposed to be GONE in 33 years.
LDS #DEZNAT has moved there en masse, to grab control of the water. By owning the judges.
;(
@lorenjackson8961
Yeah
Like from north dakota to Texas big
I've rode my motorcycle through this area for years and it will be interesting to see how this changes over time as this project evolves. I'm all for change if necessary but it's sure a bummer to watch small towns get consumed with new growth. It's more irritating that China already has it's fingers in the pot!
It is outrageous that they were given rights to mine in the first place. Rediculous that they can mine it in US then sell it back to US at extortionate prices, not to mention that they can leaverage huge concessions from your corrupt government. FJB
Regards from South Africa
@@IO-zz2xy Thanks democrats.
China has smarter leaders than we do.
Yeah total bull shit. Time to send China Packing and cancell all contracts with that country
Vote Trump. He won't be as accommodating to China's interest.
Very informative well put together. Enjoyed watching!
Lithium is a gen 2 battery material, today research on gen 3, 4 & 5 materials. From easily accessible sodium to recycled plastics. Which may render lithium an outdated commodity before the mine enters full production.
I was thinking the same thing.
For the lands sake I hope so.
They've been saying this for literally two decade and yet its still lithium batteries that are mass adopted. Just because they are researching them doesn't mean they will be economically viable. I can still remember how graphene was going to make lithium obsolete and low and behold its not economically feasible because of how hard it is to produce.
Nah, think of all of the extant infrastructure for lithium batteries - from giga-factories to each of the billions of cellphones and other devices.
@@123chargeitjust because something happened before doesn't mean it will keep happening for eternity. Lithium batteries showed up one day and so will the next one, rendering Lithium obsolete overnight.
I think it's too early to call this the lithium age as there are a ton of alternative battery chemistries being researched
The end of the church age happened in 1988. The end of the age of grace happened on May 21, 2011 { you were warned }! 'The fullness of the gentiles be come in ' (God's elect) and the door to heaven was shut on the 17th day of the second month, 7000 years to the very day after the door to Noah's ark was shut in 4990BC. Judgement day on the world also began on May 21, 2011.
And it shall come to pass in that day, a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbor, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbor. Zec 14;13 Tumult = disbelief & confusion
Division is the result for the destruction of mankind. Have you read the news lately? It is every nation and religion, politics, economics, sciences, sports, entertainment, even between the sexes.
Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; Pr 1; 24-26
Fear, and the pit, and the snare are upon thee O inhabitant of the earth. Isaiah 24;17
Lithium or any other battery tech is the least of mankind's problems.
...should have READ THE BOOK! spoiler alert: 2033 = 'last day' curious? look up Ebiblefellowship
I think Computer Age is the best term to describe this era
@@mustang8206 I'd go with "disinformation age"
@@mustang8206 yeah, we've been in the silicon age since about 2000 at least
Gentlemen:
I am a retired physics professor from Stanford, and the statement of another man regarding the phasing out of a massively critical need for Lithium has already been accomplished. It shall still be needed but just not as all consuming.
Hi, I have been part of the Stanford community since 1982. I am sad what has happened to Stanford, they went woke and the corruption is unbelievable. Never believed this can could occur. Anyhow just a symptom of the USA political environment. Left Palo Alto and we are happy living rural and building a new America first community based on the USA constitution.
Lithium prices dropped 90% from last year. Looks like Chinese decided keeping us from producing our own was worth more than getting higher prices now.
Or it is easy to find.
It wouldn't be like that If TRUMP were in the president seat. That biden needs to goto a rest home. His mental state of mind is just not there.
Biden is getting his % out over this!!
@@OFFGRID_Trucker Stop eating big mac's and wake up!
@@OFFGRID_Trucker Let the Chinese mine for us, less pollution on our beautiful country and cheaper materials..
As an expert in sustainability and energy, and a resident of nevada/ ex employee of tesla panasonics, giga-Factory i made the cathode on all 2070 and 2080 batteries. lithium is not even the majority of an efficient ev battery, let alone used for a storage the cell degradation rate is too fast.
Minute 4:58 "North Carolina also has lithium in hard rock, but mining there would require moving people out of houses, rezoning and all kinds of other complexities. But, companies are still trying."
"...moving people out of houses.....moving people out of houses....moving people out of houses....." Ad infinitum.
But, what if the houses themselves were moved....destroyed ....flooded.....removed from their foundations.....broken apart in the flood waters of......
"Helene, Helene, Helene, Helene....please dont take my house...just because you can..." Sung to the tune of Dolly Parton's Jolene.....
That's how they do it. Just history repeating itself.
Hey, that’s my photo on the sign at 0:57! My wife and I own the Lovelock Portrait Studio of Winnemucca! Very informative video!
Hell yea i drive thru all the time and actually have stopped at ur shop a couple times lol
@@Lilbot420I have no relation to any of this. But the vibe is good❤. Hope y’all doing well
That’s a great lighting photo. Notice you’re also a rail fan. My boys are too. 👏
@@Bfould3120 thank you 🙏! It was taken over by the Lazy P Farm, and has been featured numerous places now! I truly consider it to be one of my best to date! And yes, I am also a railfan! I have a video of the Loram rail grinder going from Winnemucca to Rye Patch a couple weeks ago that I need to get uploaded!
That is a beautiful photo!
North out of Winnemucca into Oregon is some of the most desolate and remote land I've ever been to. And I've been everywhere, man.
Steens mountain is incredible
We like it.
Whole lot of nothing on that dusty road.
The best high desert views I’ve ever enjoyed are off highway 95 between Winnemucca and McDermott, NV
@@joemillard787 That's an ignorant viewpoint.
8:08 before we got here , none of they're tribes ever lived up to a deal they made. Just saying
When I was in Afghanistan Starts and Stripes news paper had a two full pages of the USGS survey done and estimated over a trillion dollars of Lithium and other precious gems in Afghanistan alone. The end of the article said Afghanistan could be the next Saudi Arabia of lithium the reserves are that large. and there's no EPA or pesky regulations to worry about.
The problem revolves around the fact that worldwide open trade seems to be going away in the not too distant future. If we are to continue down the "green" path, we need to source critical strategic minerals domestically or with strong allies, with whom trade routes can be more easily protected. Nothing about Afghanistan is easy.
Regulation worries no, war yes
Too bad it's got a population content to live in the dark ages.
Just a lot of people who hate America.
sadly, due to bidumb again, the chinese will only be too happy to take it
If you want affordable housing
Pumicecrete is by far the best building material on the planet Pumicecrete is a mixture of pumice cement and water mixed and poured into a set of reusable forms walls are poured from 12"to 24" thick pumicecrete is fireproof termite proof rust rot and mold proof and has a high R value and good sound attenuation solid poured walls means no critters can live in your walls Pumicecrete can be built for a fraction of the cost and time and pumice is one of the few building materials that can go directly from the mine to the job site ready to use without any additional possessing and zero waste
Take care Ray
sounds great, but a big problem with concrete is the need for rebar which will rust over time, and the type of sand it needs is finite and hard to source/move
@@Potent_TechmologyI use basat rebsr and my mix doesn't use sand
Pumice cement and water
@@raymondpeters9186 the cement doesn't use sand? what is basat rebar?
Sorry Basalt rebar
It's not cement it's pumicecrete a mixture of pumice cement and water 😮
@@Potent_TechmologyGoogle all the walls of my house are made of pumicecrete
Excellent reporting, thanks.
No Chinese company should have a stake in American land, minerals or farming
There is no Chinese company involved. Do some basic research.
@@danielgraham8559lol it’s a Chinese company do YOUR research
they mention it multiple times.....
@@danielgraham8559
In the 80s it was the secret Japanese plot to buy America. Howd😮 that work?
No one out douches the douche.
They have to watch closely or the Chinese will be in there
Great report… only negative on the report - It’s Ne- vaaa- da. Not ne-vah- dah.
Saved me the trouble. Fallon, NV says, “Hello.”
Thank you! Finally someone mentioned it, unless the reporter is from the east coast than I’d give them a pass.
This is the only topic that so NV has in common with north NV. If we didn’t have this I would say we give Vegas to Los Angeles! Smile
Great vid dude. Ive been following these developments for a while, but this was super helpful for context and overview
I understand the mayor’s distress because I used to live in an area that was left relatively to itself until people from out-of-state arrived to make their homes there.
Has your entire lineage been in the same spot since humans began existing?
@@cwr8618 lol no but when you’re used to living one way, it feels overwhelming.
@@VoluptuousB I can imagine. Politics and the news cycle are accelerating change
"Can feel overwhelming." Get your FEELINGS under control. You can't live a life if others overwhelm you by living how they wish.
Dude, chill. Commenter is expressing a feeling. Not being overwhelmed by it or even saying its wrong. Not everything has to be an internet battle.@kevincinnamontoast3669
Actually, Elon Musk said that the batteries should be called Nickel Batteries instead of Lithium Batteries because they are composed of a much bigger proportion of Nickel...of which we have very little. There are some important Nickel deposits in Alaska that are just now being developed.
Minnesota and Michigan got a lot as well
😂 mine in Sudbury, Ontario.
You mean Graphite, graphite makes up the most of lithium ion batteries.
@@marleymarl0graphites abundent though. Metals have to be mined, processed etc.
@@marleymarl0 there are 5 critical minerals in EV production that that lithium, cobalt, manganese, nickel and graphite. The US imports a sizable chunk of all 5. If imports are disrupted, this could endanger "green technologies". If we desire to continue down the "green" path, we need to endeavor to reliably source these and other strategic minerals either domestically or with strong allies. Great paper on this : sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R47227.pdf
9:20 lol I kinda love this guy’s enthusiasm
Nevada already has bad water from mining with things like uranium and arsenic, I would hate to see it get worse! That area could seem out in the middle of nowhere, but it is also beautiful. Thank you for this video.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The greenies want the lithium and they are going to get it.
@@Cwra1smith Not necessarily
They will destroy anything in their path for money
Another seldom mentioned aspect is that very little of the mineral wealth will actually go back to Nevada and its residents. Indigenous people will get virtually nothing.
There is no "seem". It is out in the middle of nowhere just like Yucca Flats, which Harry Reid stopped from being utilized even though it is the best storage place for nuclear waste in the world.
This is some top notch reporting, I really hope this channel gets the popularity it deserves
It took over 3 minutes for the first mention of the word lithium, though.
Why does everything have to be so clickbaity these days? Get off my lawn!
@@polarbear128 I took note of that, too. Kept me here though.
That's a good point, but I'll take what I can get. It's not just an AI generated content farm, and it wasn't a lie. They're competing for views with text to speech bs and complete and utter lies, and also doing their own interviews instead of just recycling other people's footage. I can understand why they would reel you in a bit. @@polarbear128
Interesting how does this lithium mine compare to the one discovered by the salton sea in southern California? There was a lot of hype surrounding that mine as well.
Lithium is definitely not the main ingredient in lithium batteries, it's about 10% at best. Honestly, lithium will rise for the time being, but most likely start to tank as newer battery technologies come online in mass scale. It's definitely a heavily needed resource in large quantities, but I wouldn't say this is the "lithium age." If anything cobalt will be a bigger driving factor than lithium due to its scarcity in comparison to lithium. Great video though and very informative!
LFP batteries are taking over from NMC batteries. LFP need no cobalt and are only limited by the lithium supply as the other ingredients are more readily available.
We need it for the good cell phone batteries.
Exactly correct.
Yep. Some batteries require no lithium at all.
Driving down a two lane paved road “we are off the grid!” 😂
“Thacker Pass can give the world the lithium it needs!”
This guy -> 11:13 “Everything is all about me”
Why is it that those who report on things in Nevada never pronounce the word Nevada correctly?
IKR!? You only have to talk to one local to learn how to say it lol
Drives me crazy
Because they don't care.
I find it amazing that Morning Brew can take the time to do a video like this but not to learn how to pronounce Nevada.
Are the 2 A's pronounced Cat or as in Cot? Is it Nuh-va (as in cat)-dah (as in cot) or Nuh-vah (as in cot) -dah (as in cot)?
@@sanfranciscobay There is no H in Nevada...so cat wins
@@katehowe6018 Are the 2 A's pronounced Cat or as in Cot? Is it Nuh-va (as in cat)-dah (as in cot) or Nuh-vah (as in cot) -dah (as in cot)?
@@sanfranciscobay casual... Nuh-va(cat)-duh
We have a bumper sticker up here: It's NE-VA'-DUH...not NE-VAH-DUH (though the "cat" thing is pretty good, too!)
For Nevadans, hearing NE-VAH-DUH is like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard!
@5:00... Makes you wonder if hurricane Helene did just that🤔🤔🤔 I know what I believe.
It’s so crazy to see my hometown on youtube, great video!
This development of the mine has been pretty controversial in recent years, mainly due to either environmental concerns or tribal concerns with our Paiute tribe.
Our mayor mentioned something that I think a lot of locals in Winnemucca worry about, it’s gonna make our town grow. Which our town is and has already been growing because of gold mines, but there seems to be a general consensus of keeping our town rather small. We only have a population of about 7000-10000. He even mentioned Reno, which when my grandpa was young, it was 3x+ the size smaller than it is now! So I’m curious of how it’s going to change Winnemucca, kind of worrying to think about haha.
Well, Reno has been a landing place for transplanted Californians for decades. Now you have all the industry sprouting up and it's getting larger and more expensive to live there.
Good luck.
I really hope somehow it works out for the locals and natives. (Yeah l know how crazy that sounds)🙁
Take a before-and-after look at Williston, North Dakota, which boomed with serious development (then slowdown) of the Bakken shale oil fields. It'll be a real change, some opportunities, and lots to keep an eye on! 😎✌️
every city in the US will continue to grow over the next ten years as a whole. It will have ups and downs but population growth is everywhere and there are no houses left with the way things are. People are moving out of cities to smaller towns everywhere now and the cities continue to grow. Its not whether the town will grow, its how fast will it grow. So many everyone just doesnt want to see fast growth.
Great piece of recording, very informative and well produced. Learned a lot from this piece.
Ditto that !!!
lithium eh. If you are going to mine it, why wouldn't you let a company or cooperative of the locals do it?
Why would we allow our biggest adversary to extract such an important mineral right out of our land???
greed n' greased palms. It's how the CCP gets everything "done".
Cry about it, nerd
10% for the Big Guy.
Good question!
Money
Just reference Williston ND to see where this might end up
Williston is a great community. Some growing pains? Sure, but it has been overall very positive.
@6:43 Let Mike know that dust is out of control 😂
Thank you for this. Very informative introduction to the subject. I appreciate touching on different viewpoints.
Outstanding video. The reporter is articulate, concise, informative. Produce more videos like this! A winner.
And got his facts straight from the government who NEVER lies to us.
I hitchhiked highway 140 and 95 a few times back when I was doing farm work in Oregon about a decade ago. This part of the country has an underrated beauty I appreciate more every time I pass through. This was one of the last untouched places, I'm sorry for the people who hold this land in such deservedly high regard.
I hate to see small towns go away too, but nothing stays the same forever. No here in America at least. I loved my little city in the South until it became a suburb of the nearest major city and it exploded into a traffic nightmare and crime went up and it got taken over by people from the coasts. The whole area is unrecognizable. Most people who had been living there forever left for small cities in Maine or Vermont. I went to Indiana. When you got something good be prepared for everybody to move into town so they can get some for themselves.
Nice reporting. I stayed in Winnemucca 5 years ago "Where it is still 1966, and will always be 1966".
Hmm...Lithium might change that.
You must have not gotten out much then. Moved here 16 years ago from southern ca and while we like the small town slow down type mentality it’s definitely not 1966.
Ok this is super great but when YOU just mentioned the bane Fang it sounds Chinese and nothing g against the Chinese but if it’s a corporation originated from China WHY ARE WE once again still willing to let other countries like China interfere with our own countries valuable resources why??
Do you not see that Americans want American ones companies why is Nevada so ready and willing to outsource our American land that many of our ancestors and families fought to keep our nation great and sovereign why?
I would ask the American people of Nevada to object to having foreign entities come into our country and dominate our resources.
Question?
Could we own or dominate on Chinas natural resources?
The answer is NO so why are governors and senators and representatives so ready and willing to sell off our wealth especially to a country that threatens our nations sovereignty why?
People of Nevada need to be against this and now!
Destroy our planet because of money
I had to scroll a long way to find your comment and to me that is so sad. Will we ever learn?
True, but you do realize that Mother Nature is stronger than anything humans can do, if what we do makes nature uncomfortable it could quite literally end us in no time
I’m about to develop an alternative to lithium, so I guess the value will probably drop back to $0 before long
What is this alternative?
Do you need funding?
@@user-fy6rr6sz2n yes please send you and your extended family’s life savings I should be able to 10x it in a matter of days
lol.
I don't know who you are, but sodium-ion batteries are coming along nicely. Sodium makes up 1% of the world's oceans. Salt is sodium chloride, and there is a lot of salt in seawater. So there will never be material shortages for that battery type.
Funny. I'm watching this in mcdermitt at a tesla supercharger haha
Thank you, that was Interesting. The Salton Sea, East of San Diego, California has a lithium mining project planned to be starting soon. It will be drilling, on an angle, under the sea to reach the lithium. Do you know about that project?
They are the same mining company drilling in Bolivia's Dead sea and Utah's Great Salt Lake and the Sevier River Valley and outside of Moab Utah. I found Bolivia's first and then traced it to the Salton Sea and then traced it to Utah and that is where I found the corruption. That company paid off Utah's local politicians to the tune of 40MM dollars to make up a drought lie to pump water to the GSL and drain our reservoirs. The Dead Seas actually have the highest grade Lithium because of the mud composite. So much more to this than we may ever know behind the political lies.
Will they properly fill the hole after they are done? Or leave that to US and the EPA?
The land will be remediated as they go. After 40 years operation all that will be left will be the road.
Well us taxpayers will have to clean it up. It's what we voted for.
i drove right through there a few weeks ago and was amazed by how desolate it was . no cell service almost the whole time, didn't see anyone on the roads, if i had broken down i would have been screwed. BFE, Nevada
Good. Plenty of Nevadans correcting his pronunciation already. As it should be.
Battle Born. Silver gilded. Nev-add-uh.
YEP, it's refreshing to see too!
A,so, not " currently on tap" --‐- currently untapped .
If the wells are carved in horizontal stages. Then the processed clay can be put back in to create watertight reservoirs that can boost water supply and feed pumped hydro storage in areas where no mining underneath is going to compromise stability.
EXACTLY.... They wont, they don't care about water supplies. Utah is draining our reservoirs. This is literally a very deep discussion. I have been into this in Utah for the last nearly 4 years and what we uncovered are years of disgusting corruption.
Thank you.
For showing us the assortment of failures across the county and the many engineering challenges that stand out there in the United States.
Great video! Very informative…loved it! Way to go!
The argument that we need to damage and pollute the environment in the name of clean energy is absolutely bizarre. But technology never flows in reverse, so this has been preordained for a long time.
I'm not sure why it's bizarre. Weather is everywhere, the atmosphere covers the entire planet. The Caldera is little over 400sq miles. Small sacrifice.
All a fraud
A native plant in that area was listed over a year ago as endangered by Fish and Wildlife Service and Bureau of Land Management. Known as Tiehm's Buckwheat, it is uniquely adapted to thrive in lithium rich soils. Doesn't look like they're doing anything to protect it. Mining company most likely would rather pay the fines rather than putting money into mitigation.
I worked in Winnemucca for several years at the gold mines (Twin Creeks, Getchell, Florida Canyon, etc). This lithium boom won't really be all that much different. There will be "booms" and "busts" like always and people will come and go with the rising and falling fortunes of the commodities markets. Could actually be very good for Winnemucca and help balance the political structure of the state to counter the influx of those fleeing other high tax and less free states to the no state income tax haven of south Nevada. Should be rather interesting to see the demographics shift once again.
Not necessarily free Utah and Nevada. The political Puppets are paid for shills!
Im still not buyin a tesla
I left twin creeks about 2 years ago!
You’ll have ghost towns from this too, they will be your tourist attraction of the future.
These towns already live and die by gold, Lithium will only affect those moving in for it or a by product of it the rest will be just fine.
Any update on this a year later???
He is a bit snide about Winnemucca and nowhere. Once that open space - which looks like nothing to urban people- is beautiful and great to have, as are tiny towns like Winnemucca and Paradise.
City people are, in general, very uppity and think they're both smarter and better than those of us from rural America. I've lived on and off in both environments so I've seen both sides of the fence as it were. Most city folks will be unable to survive a catastrophe that wrecks civilization.
Yes it's irritating isn't it
Those who live in the country should be the first opportunity of employment to those who don't live in these countries.
And must be a citizen of the united state of America.
Washington State worked out agreements with tribal governments to allow gaming on tribal lands. It proved to have continuing wealth creation without severe disruption. I'm sure a lot of work went into making it as successful as possible. Some tribes failed to capitalize while others thrived. A lot of the success depended on proximity to population centers and tourist destination proximity as well. In the west side of the state, Muckleshoot tribes are experiencing growth and continued investment.
Lithium was yesturdays thing , we are advancing past it don't need it as much
If smectite clay mixes with magma does it make Smegma? lol
Whenever you went on a road trip to see my grandparents, we would stop and rest in Winnemucca. Going from Cali to Utah.
The same thing happened in California in the Salton Sea near Mexico. It's all about investing in the mining, processing, and getting that lithium out to use for EV batteries. That's the thing it takes time, money, facilities, and jobs. If done right, the area can be vastly improved with all those royalties.
Geothermal tapping would make a more sustainable infrastructure than mining.
There should ba a clause, mandating that their power be produced by geothermal at that location and if they abandon the area and take the jobs with them then their portion of a fund matched geothermal resource is forefeited to the municipal party unless evidence reveals sustainment of employment comparable to the mining employmment disruption.
Ecological disaster of lithium is mined there
North Carolina Just had a "hurricane" right where they wanted that lithium
There is already a company mining there, use your brain bud.
@@trashking1867
Yes..because the government and corporate entities never have nor never could not never would conspire to get more people out of the area to mine a larger swath of land..bud.
😂 complete coincidence
Yep I heard that too. Could the storm have been steered there?
Nice vid! Thanks for explaining the process leading up to why its so valuable
They'll need to dig and sell this lithium fast. It appears that silicon is coming online as the replacement for lithium anode because it holds 24 times the electrons that lithium holds making for higher energy density and it allows for faster charging. This could be a very short boom/bust cycle.
I think you have got confused somewhere. Silicon doesn't replace lithium. Silicon replaces graphite. Silicon batteries use just as much lithium. The lithium is the active ingredient. The silicon is part of the support structure.
Furthermore true solid state batteries will replace graphite and silicone in the anode with lithium metal requiring more lithium not less!
Big price drop just a few days ago
It's Ne-Va-Duh, not Ne-Vah-Duh
Wow, well done on the geologic explanation and covering all aspects of the new lithium boom in that area. If you drive US Route 95 at night through that area, you can see the lights of all the drill rigs working 24/7, exploring for lithium. Great Video!
When I heard caldera, I was expecting geothermal energy.
Perhaps they could combine the two for lithium refinement on site.
Obama set up geo.thermal energy plant in Nev. Uses wholly owned technology from Israelis and then we buy the Energy from them.
Zero footprint.
Fascinating technology.
It could prolly be co.produced a mining.
I drive boise to sac very often and frequent this area. Seen that road sign protest a bunch of times, didn't think much about it. Thanks for the video!
Worked and stayed in Winnemucca, liked just the way it was,good people also,Do not take advantage of the locals,again,good people!!
The paradox of environmentalism:
Demand that fossil fuel use end immediately.
Also, oppose every mine which would provide metals for electric vehicles.
At the same time.
Which nearly no serious environmentalist would ever say-"end immediately"-
They should be forced to walk everywhere.
I support this as a peruvian. We have also lithium deposits in the south of the country. but I would prefer not to exploit them, since the company that owns that land is canadian and canada repeatedly has threatened peru if our goverment tries to make a new deal or even tries to protect native land. maybe in american soil there will not be a need to produce from our country and people won't be affected avoiding to deplete freshwater.
Very interesting… Keep it up! This is a good channel
I think even if they can keep drug use down that the sex trade will pick up with so many mining & construction jobs. Everything I’ve read about lithium is that mining isn’t the problem, it’s refining and the byproducts that is the issue. America used to have some refining but pollution issues made it too expensive. I think eventually the Chinese will have to address the byproducts of all the lithium refining they are doing. I think that what lithium is mined here in the USA still gets shipped to China for refining unless it has changed.
This project is a processing and refining plant there is very little mining. Battery grade lithium carbonate is the final product coming out of Thacker Pass
Subscribed! Thanks for this.
Also useful for Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor (LFTR) as part of the carrying Fluid that transports around the reactor.
You also need lithium for fusion reactors as that's how you make the tritium.
Wait I thought we were in the Information Age?
Or as a few people have said the Glass Age…
Can we please call it what it really is and will be called?
The Petroleum Age!?!
Knowing Nevada the Chinese will be allowed to come in and mine it while only paying 5% back to the state. That's the norm. Foreign owned mines taking all the resources with little to no return to the state. ps Winnemucca is a cool little town.
My brother-in-law is a corporate attorney here in Los Angeles and is working with one of these lithium companies doing biz in this region drawing up contracts etc. I'm not sure which company but I will see him on Turkey day and will recommend that he watch this video. Great info and well produce - Good Job !!!
Not so fast Toyota wants to prioritize hydrogen over battery electric vehicles and they're making impressive progress.
Isn't hydrogen the least destructive to our home world ? ...
@@powderbeast5598 and most abundant, no mining involved, go Toyata
@@powderbeast5598Yes
Hydrogen is a bad idea for cars. It uses 3x as much electricity as a battery car. It's only worth using hydrogen for situations where weight or refuelling time are absolutely critical above all other concerns. For cars people just need to take a break from driving and top up their battery for 15 mins at a fast charger.
This mine is NECESSARY for the National Security of the United States..That must come first period..We need this mine..
No cell service where u mine for cell batteries😂