Pete Rose on Astros' Sign-Stealing Scandal: 'I didn't taint the game' - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard and Rob Parker react to MLB legend Pete Rose’s recent comments about the Houston Astros' sign-stealing scandal, a day after the league levied unprecedented punishments to members of their 2017 World Series championship team.
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Pete Rose’s bookie testified and said he only bet on his team to win, and all the betting slips backed that up. Pete should be in the HOF
That's why i hate Rob, there facts that proves it & he's still talking crap
Charlie Hustle would never bet against his team. Put him in the hall.
Chris Johnson and yet I never really hear people say he only bet on his team. All I hear is that he’s gambling on games. Shows u the agenda people have
But Pete Rose agreed to a permanent ban in exchange for MLB to end investigation. So that's just his assertion after the fact.
@Keith Nowak bud selig wasn't the commissioner when Pete Rose played or coached. The fact remains he agreed to a permanent ban to AVOID an investigation. That should tell you enough about what he did.
This is much worse than Pete gambling.
Pete Rose is one of the greatest players ever. His numbers are real. He was real man. He existed. He never cheated the game. He was that good...
There is no player more deserving of a HoF enshrinement than Pete Rose...
A real man does not sleep with a 14 year old girl.
Al, hate to break it to you, Al, but Rose DID cheat the game. Moreover, he was the most overrated player of all time.
thank you, Don. Amen.
Rose is the greatest compiler of all time, but not even close to an all-time great.
the Astros manager can get a 1 year suspension and Pete rose gets banned from the sport for betting on his team----------Screw MLB. Pete Rose should be in the HALL
The punishment for betting on games is lifetime ban. Rose knew that.
I've always said that he should be in the Hall of Fame.
@@theunpopularopinionatedten4951 so what! and you cant delette 30000 emails and/like Hilary got off ..come on
4k+ hits....GOAT
Pete Rose is not banned from the sport from betting. He's banned due to a mutual agreement to be banned so they would end the investigation after lying for years that he was not betting, and then it turned to "I only bet as a manager" which turned to "I only bet for my team". Everyone says that he never bet against the Reds, but there's no proving that, and the fact Rose agreed to be banned to end the investigation makes it questionable.
A.J. Hinch is a clown and deserves to be suspended, but he was openly against the sign stealing and didn't start it. The league refuses to punish the players, who are the ones who should be punished for it, so they make the manager take all the heat instead.
It's just a bunch of what-about-isms to defend Rose. What he did hurt the integrity of the games he was playing/managing in. It is not hypocritical of the MLB to ban Hinch for just 1 year
Pete rose belongs in the baseball HOF
Doesn't even matter. Don't see anyone beating his hits record for the next 50 years
@@colinsushiboy745 his record is untouchable
His stuff in the hof
he would be a HOFer but he chose to break the cardinal sin of baseball..Gambling ...and then for years he lied about it
I've always said that Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.
PETE ROSE is in MY Hall of Fame. The memories of his INTENSITY and 110% effort on the baseball diamond are FORVER ETCHED in my memory. No one can erase that, period.
Let Pete Rose in the HOF
Pete Rose should be forgiven and the Astros should be suspended
LOVE YOU PETE.
At least put in Pete Rose's nickname In the HOF... Best nickname ever ..Charlie Hustle
Pete did 'stain the game' but he's Pete 'fricking' Rose. Hall of Fame in my book.
Pete Rose not being in the HOF, I've always thought of it as a 'Get Over it' situation, the MLB should just get over it and let the man in. They should let him in now more than ever cause what the Astros did is much worse than anything Pete did
Pete is right, he bet on the game. He ain't scheme and cheat in the game.
Gambling is is legal now so why still hold it against him for life ? Just seems like overkill
KRS Sports Talk nfl players and coaches can’t bet on nfl games dummy
DJ Tommy C. Colosi if you ever played a sports you know they are betting all the time and some smoke or drink or don’t follow the rules all they way. I know they “Can’t” but they still do it
KRS Sports Talk the black Sox scandal is the reason why the MLB bans people who gamble while active
I always said that he should be in the Hall of Fame.
Sammy Sam so was weed and now it’s not so a lot of people that was arrested for it are not being released. Let’s stop acting like we live in the perfect society and start being real. There’s players that beat there wives and killed people that still get praised. I’m just saying betting is legal and paying college players is also so let’s let there’s players make money and mistakes and give them a chance to do better
Pete should be in the hall
after the 1919 black sox scandal every team has in BIG BOLD LETTERS in the clubhouse saying NO BETTING ON BASEBALL. Pete knew what he did and the consoquences
@Dander Spat what's that got to do with Pete rose?
@Dander Spat oh, I totally think there need to be much more punishment for red Sox and astros.
I've always said that Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.
No. What he did was incredibly unethical. Somebody had to be the sacrificial lamb, in order to stop gambling from corrupting the game entirely.
It’s a shame the league didn’t have the guts to do the same thing to Barry Bonds and the other steroid junkies.
Now with this electronic cheating; every Astro should be banned for life. An example needs to be set, Black Sox style.
@@chartreusecircle1546 I respectfully disagree with the steroids situation there was no rules in baseball you can't break rules that's not in place so in my opinion Barry Bonds Rodger Clemens Mark McGwire Sammy Sosa all of them should get in the hall because we don't know what the baseball players was doing before the steroid era Pete Rose didn't take steroids and he paid his price everybody deserves a second chance he didn't kill anybody and neither some murderers get out of jail
Pete rose tainted the game way more than the astros and stealing signs. GTFO
@@ogcutta3057 BULLSHIT. Steroids were ILLEGAL. And drugs were not allowed in MLB
@@icepick859 how old are you because baseball did not have rules on steroids before the steroid era you can look that up they were not being tested that's a fact
pete rose didnt do anything wrong o he bet that his team would win. so did the owners. rose before jeter !!!
Chris is from everywhere ! Cincinnati Cleveland & Louisiana what’s next
Pete Rose needs to be in the HoF or it isn't legit.
If you would have ever seen Pete Rose play he played with his entire heart I'll guarantee you he bet on his team to win he doesn't know how to lose...!!! And this sign stealing is so much worse you know the pitch that's coming that changes the game...!!!!
All we needed were some mooks telling Pete they'll forgive his $10MM debt if he throws a few games.
Exactly! I've always said that he should be in the Hall of Fame.
Pete Pan Yep. If he couldn’t stop even when he knew he’d be banned if caught, what would he have done to continue gambling? He failed to acknowledge or deal with his addiction & was a complete dick about it when he was confronted. Well, he deals with the wreckage of all that now. I’d be a lot more inclined to let him in if he said he DIDN’T belong in the Hall of Fame cause his actions damaged the image of the league, rather than trying to wriggle his way in every time someone gets caught cheating. It’s gross & really sad, man. He needs to give it up.
Pete is right ....players should be at least be fined
I’d be mad as hell if I was a dodgers fan
If Pete Rose has a lifetime suspension for what he did, the Astros and Red Sox players/managers involved should get the same.
Oh yeah suspend two whole teams indefinitely. Yeah ok
Rob is a career Pete Rose hater hahahahaa
Truly! 🙄🙄😑😑
So actual cheating, no big deal but betting on your team? Lifetime ban
If Hinch, Cora, and Betran are allowed back into the game in ANY capacity, then Pete Rose not only should be reinstated, but also placed in the Hall of Fame.
ROB is one of the smartest sportscaster radio host in the business TODAY! Chris is damn good too! Outstanding show!! Gets to the point, valid arguments, no a$$ kissing, Just pure Man Cave topics and RAW EMOTION!!!! BRAVO GUYS...... BRAVO!!!!!
Pete rose wasn’t betting against his team. Stop it rob.
jthomas200900 and you know this how?
heels4lifx be wise they have all his betting slips & they all show he only bet for his team to win. That’s how
Whether he bet for or against his team, still influences the outcome of the game. Plain and simple.
The Pete Rose situation is not even close. What the Astro's did happened at the sports HIGHEST LEVEL. To WIN the World Series. Much different.
Chris is a rolling Stone
Where he put his hat is his home
LOL. 😁😁😁😋😋
As long as Pete Rose didn't bet against his own team..He should be in the hall and allowed to work in MLB
no. not at all. he shouldnt be allowed in baseball. he can in the hall of fame
Telling me that even if Pete's team was playing against the league's best pitcher, he wouldn't bet against them?
A gambler?
Come on now!
@@haroldfrets1268 It was never proven that he did. When they were tracking him, he never took the opponent vs the Reds.
As a kid I loved baseball. My friends and I would go to the park as often as we had free time after school and on the weekends. We would call out, "I'm Hank Arron, I'm Willie Mays and so forth. Every time Pete Rose came to the bat, we all knew he was going to get at least a single but likely a double. I was there. The guy was real. Babe Ruth was a drunker-ed and an embarrassment for the game in general, yet way too many people idolize him. None of us should be so destroyed that our accomplishments can be so harshly dismissed. Except for O.J.
Baseball has been and always will be tainted. It started in 1919 and its been going strong ever since.
It’s the easiest to cheat in
Thank-you!!!
@@khalilali2450 It truly is.
They were scammin' and conniving in baseball long before The Black Sox.
@@res3382 I'll say this though. If they take away the Astros title (which wont happen), they need to take away the Patriots first three titles. Maybe take away the 2018 Red Sox and 1996 Yankees too. Just to make it fair, vacate any success Pete Rose had as a manager
The only opinion I care about on this subject...Pete Rose
Pete Rose never cheated on the field. He was a great competitor, played hard every game, and even tho he wasn’t the best physically, he pushed himself to be the best. He didn’t use amphetamines or cocaine or steroids. Betting on your team to win was against the rules, but it was ballsy. He should be in the HOF.
He DID use amphetamines. He has admitted to that.
Put Pete in the hall. Guy is one of the best ever.
Free Pete, never bet against his team.
All of Pete's amazing baseball accomplishments are real. No cheating. Put Pete in the HOF.
Pete Rose should be on the Hall of Fame. This issue is amplified now that gambling may become legal in the entire country. This scandal is way worse than whatever Rose did.
Something even crazier...is now I cant help but look back at Yankees RedSox London series. With Cora as Sox manager..and Yankees "special assistant" Carlos Beltran. Does anybody remember the scores to those games!!??😝😝😝
Was that a 'My cheating system VS Your cheating system?!?!
Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame. All times hits leader.
Robs argument about not being guaranteed a hit just by knowing the pitch, is the same argument people use for PED's. "steroids don't make you a better hitter"
You clowns, this IS worse, far worse than what Rose is said to have done. All Astros who wore the buzzer should be permanently banned.
None of these players should make the Hall
You can't judge unless you have clean hands. Pete Rose has no grounds to judge anyone.
I just can't stand Rob Parker with his arguments OMG. Knowing what type of pitch is coming GREATLY improves your chances of hitting the ball or just not striking out! Pete Rose should be in HOF
Astros/Boston ...WAY WORSE than anything Pete Rose did.
Pete's right how many people lost bets last couple of years against this team, now that sports wagering is legal. Fans are not going to stand for that
As a baseball fan!! MLB.. I want P.Rose in the HOF.
Rob Its not what you believe Its what you can prove
Exactly!
I agree with Chris. The players are the ones who DID IT and they are the ones who are getting away with it. Ban players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who cares about the owner and the managers.
Dear THE ODD COUPLE with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker, 🔍(Sherlock Holmes moment )
So what's the Good Year Blimp really doing over every Stadium? 😏
Rob Parker needs to attend a speech class. Chris Broussard needs reliable sources
Seriously, it's ridiculous that Pete Rose is not in the HOF. It would be like Michael Jordan not being in the basketball HOF for his gambling.
If you know what pitch is coming that’s a HUGE advantage! Lol hitting is like 60%-70% trying to figure out what pitch is coming up next! Imagine knowing for fact when to sit on a curve!
Now PETE ROSE SHALL BE ENSHRINED IN THE HALL OF FAME !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!!
betting on baseball is totaly legal so i dont see why he got such a ban he played his heart out every game so he wasnt betting to lose
william hazlett What If he owed a bunch of money to bookies & they wanted him to help throw a game? They gave several examples of how it hurts the integrity of the game. It’s not because it was illegal. It’s because it’s unethical. Like they said, the biggest sign in every clubhouse states IF YOU GAMBLE YOU WILL BE BANNED FOR LIFE. Pete knew what was up. He decided to throw away the fact that he was a sure Hall of Famer to gamble. If he that little ability to not do it, then he probably would’ve done anything to continue gambling. Just because he says he wasn’t pushed to that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have done it in the future. Don’t get me wrong, I love Pete, but the rules were clear. And he denied it & all that stuff. He killed all the goodwill folks had for him & he’s paying the price now.
Great point about Pete Rose showing remorse, saying hey I'll go to gamblers anon etc. How do you know he didn't? Great show by the way, first time listener/watcher.
Pete Deserves the hof. it might have been against the rules but what he did was not unethical. They made an example out of him.
Batting in the major leagues takes great concentration, so all of a sudden I have to stop doing what I've been doing for years, maybe decades and change my way of batting from depending on myself, to depending on somebody else to give me that signal to what pitch is coming?
That no an easy move for a batter to make....
And if a batter DOES make that adjustment, that says a lot about his integrity.....
If Rose blew out his pitchers arm to win the bet, that might affect his teams ability to win the next day, but it didn't give his team an advantage over the rest of the league. Even if Rose bet against his team, again this wouldn't have given his team an unfair advantage. What the Astros did is much worse that what Rose did. Since MlB did not give lifetime bans to the Astros, they should reinstate Rose immediately.
This is 100 times worse what they accuse Pete Rose are doing I do not believe Pete rose. Deserve work they gave him do you believe they should’ve done the same thing to the players but too scared of the players union to do anything to them
Pete gamble ban 4 life. These guys cheat. 1 year ban.
Troy F makes no sense. Pete should be in
This is worse than STEROIDS which was 100 times worse than Pete Rose... It's a joke
BUT IF YOU WEAR A BUZZER OR BEAT ON A TRASH CAN ... YOU DON'T GET SUSPENDED EVEN 1 GAME???
Pets Rose should be in the Hall of Fame !!! !!! !!!
Put Pete rose in the hall of fame.
Rule 21, posted in every MLB clubhouse and read aloud every year to every player, states, in part: "Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform, shall be declared permanently ineligible."
I feel bad for rose
I want rob to tell us what he would consider is worst than what Pete did.
Free Pete Rose!
Hey, Pete Rose, look into the possibility of suing Major League Baseball. I don't know if it can possibly lead to anything, but go seek some legal advice.
Who cares who Pete Rose bet on? He didn't CHEAT! Sure Rob can come up with a few scenarios where Pete affected the game but the Astros was EVERY GAME, EVERY PITCH! I think this is much worse that Pete's betting.imho...
Nope. Pete broke the rules. Your either fine with it all or not at all.
Exactly! I've always said that he should be in the Hall of Fame.
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Lots of assumptions and hypothetical scenarios are made in this video about what Pete might’ve done or what they believe Pete probably did based on what they would’ve done or what they think gamblers would do. No evidence whatsoever. He bet on baseball and his own team, that’s what we know. Cora, Beltran and the Astros, Red Sox, etc, developed entire intricate high tech espionage systems that would’ve required many people to employ, to cheat the entire game. Probably had stuff strapped to dudes with Bluetooth buzzers and who knows what else? Plenty of video evidence of that. Stop comparing what you’re dreaming in your head about Pete Rose to what we already know to be fact plus other information that there’s reasonable evidence for.
People will forget. Vacate the title to leave that lasting impact
Astros put a stain on the game PETE ROSE greatest player ever bets on his team to win and he gets lifetime ban
Scrolling on the phone while your radio partner is commenting on the topic of conversation? I have done radio work in Chicago and I would hate if my co-hosts did that. That's what commercial breaks are for...
George Foster with the Black Bat if I remember correctly.
I have no sympathy for Pete Rose. He didnt come clean for years.
Astros and Red Sox were stealing signs in the WS and still couldn’t hit Walker Buehler fastball lol tight, we coming back 2020
I like how Pete Rose is the expert on cheating
The Odd Couple > First Things First they need a show on TV
Pete Rose SHOULD be in the HOF. 1 year suspensions for these cheaters is not justice. MLB is a joke. I will never watch another game until justice is served.
And then will come puertorricans and the puertorrican media defending him and kissing ass.
As a puertorrican myself i'll say this:
If you did the crime,you do the time.
I'm ashamed of this and i don't feel any sympathy for cheaters even though he is a fellow boricua.
They beat Houston too😂😂😂at there own game 🤣🤣🤣
The Sports Illustrated issue that supposedly predicted that the Astros would win the World Series in 2017 might now get this sports magazine in trouble. How do we know that Sports Illustrated did not know about the cheating?
Sports Illustrated also predicted the Cubs would win in 2016 with an old-style cover that was released before the 2016 postseason started. Maybe we should look into that, too.
The SI cover predicting the Astros' 2017 title was published in June 2014. It was tongue-in-cheek in its brashness, inspired by the optimism in the Astros' rebuilding program. Even if Houston was cheating in 2014, how would anyone know it would come to fruition in exactly three years?
He's right. He deserves to be in, and these players/coaches don't.
It's Okay for these Guys to cheat and meanwhile Pete Rose is banned ???
His bookie testified Rose never bet against his team.🤷🏿♂️ Rob needs to stop with this fake narrative
When Broussard made an argument that even when the Astro's knew the signs, they still lost games. If he believes that is a good argument against what Pete did, then he should support all the guys that used steroids too, right! They didn't hit home runs all the time. Cheating did more damage to the game than Pete. HOF #14
Every manager should think to win the game they’re in at the moment, you worry about tomorrow when it comes, if you need to blow out your bullpen to win tonight, then do it, if you’re a manager you should be smart enough to know what to do about tomorrow’s game tomorrow not during some other game
The Houston Astros should be required to change their name to Asterix for at least several years, while MLB arranges for a forced sale and relocation to another city. That's a no-brainer.
Oh yeah, the person who coined that needs to be paid big-time naming rights.
Jim James why would you punish the people of Houston? I mean taking the title, player suspensions are reasonable but relocating the team????
@@jlobiafra For starters, I'd contend the people of Houston supported the cheating and still do.
Oh yeah, that said, I'd bet they have no honor and aren't willing to give up the title.
Jim James i know myself and others who totally condone it and don’t care if they take away the trophy. So don’t lump us all in the same category, also we don’t control the punishment that’s up to the league. The fans didn’t do anything wrong, we found out about this when the rest of the world did
I remember going to a signing Steve Garvey had. As my sons and I walked up to get a jersey signed, Jay Johnstone product how Steve Garvey was on the ballot for Hall of Fame. I responded with that's great however I don't think anybody belongs in the Hall of Fame. So then Steve Garvey slammed the table and began cussing refusing to sign the jersey. All we could do is walk away and laugh. Much respect to Jay he defused the situation and gave us some comps. GIVE PETE JUSTICE!!!
You don't think _anybody_ belongs in the Hall of Fame??
Rob Parker needs to read the comments...!!!
Members of upper management should be BANNED for life. Players should've been suspended, they should be force to vacate all wins during that season including the World Series title, and the team should be canned for a year.
Pete Rose was banned for life for betting! This organization intentionally cheated during on the field of play.
Not ever gonna happen suck it up
Juicy - So true.
Agreed, Houston should not be allowed to field a team this year
@@TNowotny1 Man STFU. 🤘🏆
@@TNowotny1 I don't even what to imagine the kind of legal minefield banning a team from MLB for a year would entail. Remember when the NCAA did that to SMU and all the long term issues it caused?
Never really understood the hate for Rose. It's a team sport, it's difficult for a single player to sway the game either way, yes, you can do it, but uncontrollable events are a big factor
If they are going to let the Astros keep the &^%$#@NG title, then they should let Pete in the baseball HOF
Facts
And Shoeless Joe
MLB was in on it. Remember Houston was going through a Hurricane.