I cant believe dray took inadvertent shots at curry.....saying a unanimous MVP didn't know how to get a bucket on command..... All that to shield KD from criticism. And this the same dude who called KD a b*tch
Because they are all friends and don’t want to talk bad about each other. The best thing about media guys is that they are brutally honest. Skip Bayless flat out says, Westbrook stinks. Which one of these player media guys is gonna say that about a former teammate or friend? None of them.
How is Draymond like Barkley? Barkley is complete entertainment. Dray doesn't even come close to the level of humor, entertainment and loveability of Charles and that's not to hate cus no one comes close
Exactly, Charles was made for tv because he’s lovable. He feels like everybody’s uncle. Draymond breathing with his mouth open thinks he’s brilliant but he’s not.
I'd say the only reason they ate comparing the two is simply because they are both outspoken and unapologetically speak their mind! Some may say they speak their mind to a fault!
@@bigdan9850 no he doesn't. Because Draymond is always capping for the players. He's always defending the brotherhood. Barkley keeps it real all the way through. Draymond right now is campaigning for Kevin Durant and so he's defending everything he does. That's not honest
@@bixhutch6274 funny part is people just like you despised charles when he played he was a nigga who didn’t bend to societies norms just like kyrie and y’all hated him for it.
What business that provides a tangible product or service has he actually started, developed and managed personally to even call himself a businessman. Piggybacking off of other people's actual business by throwing capital and being a social media employee is hardly what I call business in the same sense that Magic Johnson is a legit businessman. Just trying to create drama where there is none in a desperate attempt to be relevant off the court.
First of all, new media has always been RUclipsrs, not mainstream NBA dudes who are part of it fraternity of people who don't criticize each other fairly.
@@THEMANCURTIS LoW and Jxmmy are nba youtube legends. But yeah you right. Lots of bozos on nba youtube. I just seen some calling Wiggins a bust before the playoffs 😬
Man I'm so glad Michael Jordan doesn't talk to anyone. Guy just lays low relaxing while everyone else is talking. These new players I'll never compare to old players. This is the new media. I miss the old days
Yes I love being an old head. You weren't around to know how great those times were and I'm not just talking basketball. You had to be there to know with all do respect.
I’m 23 I claim myself old head new players get on my damn nerves just wish I can go back experience 2000s era including the 90s but unfortunately my parents didn’t think of me atm🤣
Never know when you'll die bro. If you've been paying any attention at all out here young folks are dying as much as the older generation. Babies, teenagers, young adults are dying as much as the older generations so be careful with that bro because you never know when your time is up.
Another thing Draymond is clueless about! Athletics is a business & if you get paid to do something then it’s by definition a business/businessmen…🤦🏼♂️
Um no that’s an employee’s getting paid by his boss…business men answer to no one …. Draymond is correct look at Lebron who has multiple business and has an owner stake in a football team WHILE playing
This is the thing….Nobody cares what Draymond does….He can go wherever he wants, and no one will care!!! We’re only talking about 6 or 7 players who we want to see lead their teams!!! Players like Dray…Nobody cares!!!!
No one talks about how the teams treat their players. Rudy Gobert just signed a MAX what a year ago? They shipped his out in no time. They didn't honor his full 5 year MAX. Sam thing happened to Blake Griffin. Isiah Thomas was encouraged to play with a busted hip and when he thought the team would MAX him they traded him. This has always been a business. There's no such thing as fulfilling a contract in sports. The owners will use every piece of leverage even when there's a contract on the books to get out of that contract.
The team's honored the contracts. they still paid those players you mentioned. But the players are trying to sit out and still get paid because they're not playing for the team they want to play for like petulant children.
Well part of the contract is that the team has the right to trade you so... technically it's still fulfilling the contract. That said I don't really care if players put business first, do what's best for you
They did honor the contract because they payed the player and send them to a team that will continue the payment. If you don’t play up to par,like Gobert , they have the right to trade you.
You won the genetic lottery, got tall, play pro ball and get paid millions and they wisely invest the money outside of things like car washes like past players did.... I wouldn't call you a businessman but an investor. That's a good thing. I'm glad they aren't going broke anymore. With that being said, players don't like being criticized at all.... Time to ignore draymond
Draymond is saying all these sound bites to get more clicks and views on his podcast. It's not new media. Literally doing the same thing as the current media except he's a pro athlete
Businessmen huh? so as a businessman he should know if people sign a contract in a business they have to fulfill the contract. The dude is so full of himself its ridiculous.
Yeah and teams do the same thing when they trade guys after they sign a contract or send them home while healthy. It's the business of the NBA. Stay in school, kid.
@@BaithNa who funds the players the organization or the players are self funding? By your logic if giannis, lebron, KD, Kyrie, and kawhi Leonard wanted to join 1 team and force their ways out of their teams you’d be ok with that? “Player empowerment” my ass
And as a businessman he knows that just like how teams can ship players out without finishing a contract, players can pull leverage cards and make moves themselves. Only people who don’t look at these players as human beings have an issue with this
@@1sagacious1 lol "the keys to Steph's great legacy" that's a bit overexaggerated. You make Steph sound like a catch and shoot role player, Steph can create his own shots too. I do agree with Steph not allowing the trade because Dray is important to their defensive chemistry though.
Is crazy how NBA teams will sign someone to tell them that they're going to stay with the team, then trade them and no one makes a big deal about it. But let a NBA player sign a contract then wants to leave. It's a problem The clippers did it to Blake Griffin
That situation was Blake's fault. He should've signed a 1 year deal in 2017 and renegotiated again in 2018. He would've had 8 years in the league at that point and been eligible for a no trade clause. Same thing happened with DeRozan, he signed his long term deal too early and ended up getting trading while sitting in the parking lot at jack in the box.
@Beery Problem is y’all mad that these basketball players got power and control where they want to go so when the media put fake narratives nba players now have a voice they own pod cast shut bs down
Only NBA athletes can sign 200 million dollar deals and the next year ask out and still get their money and call it business. Try that outside of being an athlete, after you signed the contract.
@@kevindownes9474 No it was because the were brainwashed and scared and knew there place but King James changed all that that's why the media and the league went after Lebron.
@@mustangs263 right teams can trade players at the drop of a hat but players cant because of “dog” and “him”. Kevin heurter literally found out he was traded out the blue.
The problem with what Dray said is that KD can't be in convos amongst the absolute best (MJ, Kobe, Curry) if he can't overcome adversity while leading a team. He can make all the business moves to make money (thats perfectly fine) just don't be upset when you not considered in this particular bracket of players.
@@boomdynamite33 Sounds like a cop out to support mediocrity. Learn to deal with the cards you're dealt and do better. If you can't, feel free to move and make money (thats awesome!!), just don't be upset when you not considered the greatest. That's like someone born into wealth being upset they not considered a "self-made millionaire".
@@Ben2bwild people debate them but at the end of the day they only matter if KD cares, we can say all this stuff but he’s chilling at the end of the day
That's what the players don't realize these owners are billionaires and people like that think long term not short term. They're letting the players get away with a lot of stuff and let them think they're doing some kind of self empowerment when in the end the players are going to get destroyed in the next CBA because the owners are just letting the players build a case for them.
As a younger person, I felt so guilty realizing how right the odd couple is about this topic, while also being just as aggravated with what Draymond said.
I'm a warriors fan, so I love Draymond waaaaaaay more than I care for Rob Parker. But I 100% disagree with draymond on this one and 100% agree with Rob. Only bad businessmen try to avoid fulfilling their contracts. That's complete garbage behavior from a business perspective, if I was a businessman I wouldn't wanna do business with a person who has no respect for a contract.
If you wanted a person or something that was under contract and owe by someone else. I am thinking forget their contract I want that … that’s how business ppl think. When you can or you to try to get out of a contract does make you a bad person or business person
If it wasn't in his contact to be able to request trade .KD wouldn't be able to do so. So I don't get contractual obligation arguments. The athletes do what their contracts allow them to do
In theory this sounds right but that team can trade him anytime and would if it was in the best interest of them…..the fact that teams can trade players voids the “players should stick to their contracts and play out their time on a specific team”
Dray is the kind of guy that thinks he’s smarter than anyone else and won’t stop telling you that. The guy is insufferable. I like GSW for the splash brothers and Kerr but I would love to see Dray lose to eat some humble pie.
Everyone hates a dude like draymond. Does all the talking and then his big brothers have to back it up. If that 15 win season didn’t humble him nothing will
@@LoftyXsWaGX34 when he played with rookies and wiggins traded half way thru the season? Yea they were bad and in 2022 those players he won 15 games with, flourished
draymond is pushing it. you know what's good business? signing a contract and sticking to it. in most worlds you would have a lawsuit on your hands. stop the crap.
Yea but then if your franchise isn’t feeling you they can shed you anywhere they want that’s good for them. I don’t totally agree with what Draymond is saying but if players have to honor their contracts so should teams.
@@marcuscarpenter7230 ?? the team was the reason the player even had a chance to play. Thats the way it works. You play for a Franchise and after you sign, you are an asset for them. If a trade becomes available that you believe will help then you make that trade. I know stars have a lot of power but its not called the Brooklyn Durants, its called the Brooklyn Nets.
@@kobe91724 I agree but players shouldn’t be stuck with a team if they made empty promises or underperformed and it wasn’t your fault if kd underperforms he’s out of the nets front office or gm or anything underperforms he’s just under contract and can’t do anything? I’m not fully on Draymond side but I def don’t have a problem with kd saying he wants out
@@marcuscarpenter7230 but that doesn't make him a business man lol that's what this is about. im also a lawyer- i look at contracts differently. it is a business transaction lol and if you under perform or breach it in any way you typically pay a price. this is just some crap ball players can get away with apparently. both he and kyrie need to get the heck outta my state lol this drama aint worth it.
@Beery They are not employees they are contractors, which mean a conversation can had at any moment from either side. Case and point James Harden was under contract for a certain amount but they had a conversation to extend him while helping the team. This is exactly what Draymond is saying like it or not star players will always hold power.
When you’re in the NBA and getting paid 30mil plus a year, you a a basketball players first. No if ands or buts about it. You are richer than 99.999% of people to ever live and that’s and understatement. If you want to do business, do it in a way where it won’t affect basketball.
Exactly. I love Dray but that statement about them being a business is a head scratcher for me. They are players, and work for businesses/teams and are paid by them. They don't own the teams even though lately it seems as if they think they do. This next CBA is going to take away some of their power. These sign a contract and then demand a trade before the ink is dry is destroying the game. IMO
fr. there's something about being a man that puts fulfilling your duty and keeping your word over everything that these younger generations really lack.
@@kevindownes9474 My father all ways told me that you sign up for something, you tell someone you are going to do something, then you have to honor and stand on that. Period.
@@e2zbasketball288 so is Skip. At times. But they don’t budge and I truly believe they mean what they say and for me it’s hard to Knock. Plus Robs been an OG. MLB HOF voter. That’s dope
@@k-way8471 Yes but he did it at a point in which they can prepare for it. If you’re leaving at the end of your contract which every player has the right to do the team cannot be surprised that you’re not there. When you leave after signing a four year extension you literally destroy all the plans of the current organization
@@k-way8471 he killed the future of the cavs twice ? Lmao can you name what talent he was surrounded with the first 7 years of his career in Cleveland ? He got them a ring the second time around, there are 12 nba teams that never won a ring ever, bruh I swear y’all love talking out the side of y’all necks.
@RFM Recordings for the most part your right but I'd be willing to bet for the right price Toronto would be like yeah we won't care if he's happy or not so long as he's on the roster
@@kevindownes9474 yeah they legit said yeah were cool with throwing away a good bit of our future for a one year rental, also they had no clue they would win a chip off it that was just the best the could hope for and I doubt nba GMs are making decisions based on what they hope they honestly probably were just as cool getting a star player to get people to buy tickets as they were competing
@@DrAmber2004 Jealous idiots that have never signed a business contract of this magnitude in their lives. We all know in all forms of business, there are outs in the contracts for both parties. And KD has not done anything to break his contract. So this narrative needs to stop until he does something to break his contract.
@@DrAmber2004 I wasn't referring to KD I meant in general. But since that's who you chose, KD isn't wrong for requesting a trade, it's understanding the reason why he signed it. Its ok to collaborate with your friends and try to make it work but when your careers and futures are on the line, it's about your quality and quantity.
@@omarhasan03 thank you and I was I addressing the Draymond comment. KD had the right to request the trade, I was just saying that he should've thought about it before signing to play with Kyrie and have this result.
Draymond is just trying to protect KD's feelings, so that KD might end up traded to GS. The concern for KD's feelings is odd, considering Draymond was the one who publicly called him a bitch and told him that GS didn't need him because they already had a 'chip without KD.
Draymond won’t ever be close to Barkley. Barkley was the loveable guy when he was playing, and he also criticizes players! Dray hardly ever criticizes players and that’s why Barkley is appealing.
@@baldeagle4710 yep, you’re right. Consumers of media don’t like that. He won’t be a big deal after he retires. You have to be objective as a former player.
What I love is the fact that the superstar players are doing to the clubs what the clubs do to regular players. You can’t keep selling players against their wishes and not expect thesame treatments from players.
@@soda8736 I agree and don't get why most people don't understand this. That's not to say the owners have every right to treat the players like trash, but they should be able to do what is best for the team
Everyone of these guys/woman takes this stuff personal. Then say they don’t everyone is just sensitive at this point. World has changed athletes and the talking heads
I understand Dray’s point. Today’s NBA stars makes more money and can afford to open there own platform and speak there minds without having to run to a show and sportscasters don’t like independent media
Nah draymond made zero point. It’s not about speaking minds, athletes have been doing that for a long time. He doesnt want himself and his “brothers” to get criticized on his game and should just earn all the money in the world without accountability. He wants more player power, getting paid without doing whats required, it’s not new media vs old media, it’s jut media that doesnt allow criticism on any player thats new media draymond prefers. He’s an idiot and a 🤡
Business is business y’all gotta get out your feelings cuz they don’t pay 💩 It is what it is. If KD wants to leave he has the power request it. These players have the power to play where they want if they are good enough,like it or not.Dray was talking about business moves inside the NBA not outside ventures. Way to take it out of context. Great job
When the clip is traded Blake Griffin or when they sign a player then right away trade them. No one says anything about it. It seems like everyone's upset when it's the other way around
@@thaddeusbrownjr2107 big facts….and it’s thing like that that make players use their talent as leverage to be where they want to be and not be where they don’t want to be. Pre LeBron players were at the mercy of the owners and GMs…95% of the players still are but that 5% that rise above the rest are in control of their own destiny and destinations in the league. Nobody gave James Harden this much energy and the flip side of that is Westbrook. He been on 4 teams in like 5 years because teams didn’t want to pay him so they ship him to desperate teams. Now he damn near out the league if he don’t show out next season he probably will be.
He’s not saying they’re the first businessmen to be in the nba. He’s saying that they’re the first group to treat their basketball related contracts and moves like business decisions
That's cap....business men honor their contracts. They don't go back to their business associates and tell them they no longer want to honor the contract they signed and demand to be accommodated. These guys are acting like cry babies and punks not business men
I didn’t take Draymond Green’s comments to imply this generational players are the only ones to become businessmen. They are actually standing on the shoulders of the previous generation and making career decisions with business in mind. It’s not a criticism in as much as it’s am homage.
He has to have pride. He's defending his profession. Right? He's defending his profession in the midst of Draymond KD JJ STACK Kyrie Lebron are now stealing their meal tickets, with this new media angle. I love it, too! Even here, Rob and Chris are so unfair and dishonest in their analyst. For example, in yesteryears only Jordan and Magic were the publicly-praised businessmen of the NBA... whereas today? EVERY PLAYER is now a businessman like only Jordan and Magic used to be praised for. Rob and Chris are being deceitful by pretending Draymond is saying something other than that.
@@1sagacious1 Just because Magic and Jordan were the most publicized doesn’t mean other players weren’t business minded. There are countless others that can be mentioned.
I don’t think Draymond said he invented the wheel he just said nba players are more business oriented and now he invented business? They really stretch his words
I’m not a draymond fan at all but I do love how he gets these dudes so mad. 😂. I don’t know everything but I know for a FACT that a big part of their problem is that dray gets so much attention and they just don’t. 🤷♂️. It hurts their ego. And not just dray but all the players with their own platforms now and what is “the new media” lol.
Brilliant response from Rob and Chris. And they left out Shaq! Shaq is a mega businessman. Hell, he was in fkn Hollywood films while playing! NBA players as businessmen/brands is not even close to a new concept.
Shaq is and has been one of the biggest businessman there is.. all these guys have had side company’s and endeavors. If Kevin Durant is a business then he needs to be sued like one.. he signed the contract, make him play.
It is weak because he wants to go to another stacked team and in business you sign a contract you honor it and nobody told him to sign that four year deal
Suns not stacked especially after they trade for him …heat not stacked especially after they trade for him …if he was to join those teams as a free agent then you have a point.
Yep; these dingbats are going to mess things up for the next generation and tell them they should be grateful. - lets see what the talk is when the new-new media starts going at them for messing everything up
Bruh y’all really didn’t listen to what Draymond said at all. They are doing something the old generation couldn’t do. They’re utilizing their talents to leverage against the owners. Bron shifted the Paradigm and others have built on that.
bron started the soft era coz hes the softest face of the league ever. complain, build superteams, cry, quit, change narratives - and dumb kids believe
He's right. And everytime a player demands a trade a yr into a new 5 yr deal the league she reduce their salaries by 20%. Bc that fanbase and organization gets screwed bc of your selfish decisions
These organizations need to stop letting players bulldoze them. I wouldn't even entertain trading KD. The guy has 4 years left on his deal, this is insane. He would either play or sit for 4 years, his choice.
@@NatisCole 50 mil a year for him to sit. I doubt it. They would trade him. But if they don’t KD will definitely play. I don’t see him doing the Ben Simmons.
Signing a contract and demanding a trade doesn't make you a business man. Sports is about competition, achievement, and triumph. It's not about where can I go to find the easiest path to winning. That's not the spirit of sports. Especially if you are one of the biggest difference makers in the league. Why are you demanding to only play for teams that are already contenders. Make the team you're on a contender! It's not even like they have a bad team. That's an I don't want to compete hard move....don't have nothing to do with being a business man. Draymond is completely out of context
Ok, so players should have to uproot their families at anytime when the owners want to trade them, but players shouldn’t have any influence over where they go outside of free agency…and even then, they should deal with unfair detrimental criticism if they don’t make the “preferred” choice of the general public and spectators (eg KD to GSW)? I’m just trying to understand the “yes massa”, company man mentality in this video and the comment section.
Thank you! They act like these men are slaves and should just be happy they are getting paid. Idk why these two care so much? It’s all hating if you ask me. Edit:dogs=so
Unfortunately my 90's generation of sports had a largely shut up and dribble mentality. I aint mad at the youngins pushing the line. The owners did it for decades
Draymond is 100% right and Rob Parker is delusional He thinks he's God's gift to journalism along with Chris Broussard you could push back on him you're just did! I think Draymond was trying to say is that the media needs to stop with this drama and all of this narrative about players
I’m so confused there’s a contract you sign it, but you have the option to ask for a trade while under said contract. That doesn’t mean they have to do the trade, so why are y’all mad at player for exercising that options. Like Draymond said it’s a small percentage of players that can actually do it!
Draymond just isn't comparing apples to apples. His if a person goes from Google to Apple to Tesla nobody cares but you give NBA athletes a hard time. Well Apple, Google, Telsa didn't make you sign a contract to stand by. They also didn't change their whole business model to work around you. The Nets bent over backwards for you and did everything you asked. Stand by what you signed and make it work when the owners have done everything for you. If he is leaving because he doesn't think Kyrie was treated right I lost even more respect for him. If the nets ownership was incompetent and not putting the pieces around him or what they promised when signing him ok fine but thats not the case here. You can call it old school or new era hater whatever you want I just have a lot more respect for a player that says na I am going to make it worke and figure how to stay here and beat the best not go join them or bail first sign of trouble. Lots of respect for what Giannis did just like Jordan back in the day. Not saying a player doesn't have the right to go do what he wants but don't pull an Anthony Davis, or James Hardin, KD...etc and force your way out and whine like you are being treated unfairly or media is just being ridiculous and this is just a new era player making smarter business decisions. Own your decision. You quit on your team plain and simple. Move on.
Draymond tries to discredits everyone’s opinion in the media as if he’s the smartest person in the room. As if no one in the media knows anything about sports.
I’m far from a Draymond fan but he’s right and these old guys and owners can’t stand it. Part of me want the players to thug it out and figure it out but no because these same players careers and destiny have been controlled since the league started and now players are having more say so and i love it but of course you have guys like Kyrie who will abuse that power and ruin it eventually
The media is upset because players aren't slaves to their bosses like the media. Also the media for the most part only criticizes players. They never talk bad about teams being ran horribly. Bad drafts, bad trades, no player development etc.
Business men sign contracts void them find better deals all the time that's what lawyers are for. What people are trying to say is black men everything you do better be by the book and moral while everyone else not held to that standard. You will lose but at least you will do it with grace. I can hear it now. "why you bring race into blah blah blah" I'm not here to make you feel comfortable. and just for you even thinking I need to make you comfortable pay black Americans reparations.
Kevin Durant did not leave Golden State to show that he's a leader elsewhere. He left because the medical staff lied to him and told him that he was okay. This is a direct parallel with kawhi Leonard's injury and Isaiah Thomas's injury on the Celtics.
They’re Not Broke Due To Being Worst Businessman… They’re Broke Cuz They Simply Didnt Make Anywhere Near As Much Money… It’s Easier To Go Broke When You’ve Made $20 Million In Yo Entire Career, As Opposed To When You Make $20 Million Every Season
It's like one of these players have each other on their podcasts all they do is pet each other on their back and say how great they are and they never question anything about each other.
The dummies who support what green is saying should have no issue watching a league then where superstars don’t stay in a team for more than 2 years or a year even if they sign Max contracts Or giannis, lebron, KD all joining each other. Who would Wanna watch this product? The modern NBA is in shambles take KD and these flakey superstars out watching teams like GSW, Celtics, Phoenix and Dallas is actually interesting
How that any different than what teams do to players non stop? Blake Griffin got traded right after signing his MAX. It's worse in football where they have no leverage. People have been crying about superteams for the last 13 years and no one has stopped watching the product.
@@christianjames92 Rating have been horrific for NBA unlike NFL cuz NFL has more control over its players. The NBA is very unreliable I don’t even wanna buy jerseys anymore cuz idk who’s staying anymore (besides the young guys)
@@christianjames92 at a more dwindling dwindling rate as opposed to the 80’s and 90’s and early 2000’s look at the finals ratings as well. Still the most viewed finals ever in history was in the MJ era.
Those examples of Magic Johnson and others got into business AFTER their careers, these players today are building several forms of income WHILE PLAYING still. Former athletes became businessmen, current athletes today are businessmen!
The only issue I have with “the new media” is that the new guys don’t hold the current players accountable for literally anything…
I cant believe dray took inadvertent shots at curry.....saying a unanimous MVP didn't know how to get a bucket on command.....
All that to shield KD from criticism. And this the same dude who called KD a b*tch
Reddick does
Because they are all friends and don’t want to talk bad about each other. The best thing about media guys is that they are brutally honest. Skip Bayless flat out says, Westbrook stinks. Which one of these player media guys is gonna say that about a former teammate or friend? None of them.
Anytime I see CJ on first take, i already know he is going to side with the players in any given scenario lol.
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How is Draymond like Barkley? Barkley is complete entertainment. Dray doesn't even come close to the level of humor, entertainment and loveability of Charles and that's not to hate cus no one comes close
Exactly, Charles was made for tv because he’s lovable. He feels like everybody’s uncle. Draymond breathing with his mouth open thinks he’s brilliant but he’s not.
I'd say the only reason they ate comparing the two is simply because they are both outspoken and unapologetically speak their mind! Some may say they speak their mind to a fault!
@@bigdan9850 no he doesn't. Because Draymond is always capping for the players. He's always defending the brotherhood. Barkley keeps it real all the way through. Draymond right now is campaigning for Kevin Durant and so he's defending everything he does. That's not honest
@@bixhutch6274 funny part is people just like you despised charles when he played he was a nigga who didn’t bend to societies norms just like kyrie and y’all hated him for it.
What business that provides a tangible product or service has he actually started, developed and managed personally to even call himself a businessman. Piggybacking off of other people's actual business by throwing capital and being a social media employee is hardly what I call business in the same sense that Magic Johnson is a legit businessman. Just trying to create drama where there is none in a desperate attempt to be relevant off the court.
First of all, new media has always been RUclipsrs, not mainstream NBA dudes who are part of it fraternity of people who don't criticize each other fairly.
first of ALL would imply a 2nd or several points. youre right tho.
facts
Can't take a lot of these youtubers serious though lol
@@lamariusmicou5127 But there's plenty you can that actually break the games down
@@THEMANCURTIS LoW and Jxmmy are nba youtube legends.
But yeah you right. Lots of bozos on nba youtube. I just seen some calling Wiggins a bust before the playoffs 😬
Man I'm so glad Michael Jordan doesn't talk to anyone. Guy just lays low relaxing while everyone else is talking. These new players I'll never compare to old players. This is the new media. I miss the old days
So you're happy being an oldhead. All you guys from that era still have Jordan in your mouths 20 years later. Time to move on dude
Yes I love being an old head. You weren't around to know how great those times were and I'm not just talking basketball. You had to be there to know with all do respect.
I’m 23 I claim myself old head new players get on my damn nerves just wish I can go back experience 2000s era including the 90s but unfortunately my parents didn’t think of me atm🤣
@@juansanchez209 you’ll be an old head too eventually lol, 4-6
Never know when you'll die bro. If you've been paying any attention at all out here young folks are dying as much as the older generation. Babies, teenagers, young adults are dying as much as the older generations so be careful with that bro because you never know when your time is up.
Draymond ain't as smart as he thinks he is...although he is more self aware than Kyrie who is completely delusional.
Lol dray talks too much with no sense
Most athletes think because they have a big platform that its due to their brains.
I think Draymond and Kyrie are on the same level on the delusion scale
Agreed even the smartest guy in the room doesnt talk about a topic they know nothing
what makes Kyrie delusional?
Draymond talking about business man. Real business men honor contracts.
The teams will dishonor that same contract when they want to trade you
@@jaminhodges3123 it’s in the contract that they can trade them. At the end of the day they are assets. But I hear your point
Really, plenty of business men dishonor contracts🤨
kd agreed to play a contract out not for exclusively Brooklyn for whoever he’s playing for which is currently Brooklyn
@@naklovesjesus3204 unscrupulous and dishonorable men dishonor contracts. period.
Another thing Draymond is clueless about! Athletics is a business & if you get paid to do something then it’s by definition a business/businessmen…🤦🏼♂️
Draymond be sounding like a straight clown at times 🤦🏿♂️
@@RulingClassMentality
No doubt!
Um no that’s an employee’s getting paid by his boss…business men answer to no one …. Draymond is correct look at Lebron who has multiple business and has an owner stake in a football team WHILE playing
I think it's more than that, they investing and doing other things, many of them.
This is the thing….Nobody cares what Draymond does….He can go wherever he wants, and no one will care!!! We’re only talking about 6 or 7 players who we want to see lead their teams!!! Players like Dray…Nobody cares!!!!
No one talks about how the teams treat their players. Rudy Gobert just signed a MAX what a year ago? They shipped his out in no time. They didn't honor his full 5 year MAX. Sam thing happened to Blake Griffin. Isiah Thomas was encouraged to play with a busted hip and when he thought the team would MAX him they traded him. This has always been a business. There's no such thing as fulfilling a contract in sports. The owners will use every piece of leverage even when there's a contract on the books to get out of that contract.
The team's honored the contracts. they still paid those players you mentioned. But the players are trying to sit out and still get paid because they're not playing for the team they want to play for like petulant children.
Don't forget how they did Isaiah Thomas in Boston after his sister died and his hip was injured
Well part of the contract is that the team has the right to trade you so... technically it's still fulfilling the contract. That said I don't really care if players put business first, do what's best for you
@@unisensei260 yeah that actually was fucked up
They did honor the contract because they payed the player and send them to a team that will continue the payment. If you don’t play up to par,like Gobert , they have the right to trade you.
You won the genetic lottery, got tall, play pro ball and get paid millions and they wisely invest the money outside of things like car washes like past players did.... I wouldn't call you a businessman but an investor. That's a good thing. I'm glad they aren't going broke anymore.
With that being said, players don't like being criticized at all.... Time to ignore draymond
Draymond is saying all these sound bites to get more clicks and views on his podcast. It's not new media. Literally doing the same thing as the current media except he's a pro athlete
@@MikeBNumba6 Regular media actually says stuff though. Draymond is just whining.
Businessmen huh? so as a businessman he should know if people sign a contract in a business they have to fulfill the contract. The dude is so full of himself its ridiculous.
Yeah and teams do the same thing when they trade guys after they sign a contract or send them home while healthy. It's the business of the NBA.
Stay in school, kid.
You're right, but what about when the organization will void the contract by trading a player that doesn't want to leave......demar derozan
@@BaithNa who funds the players the organization or the players are self funding?
By your logic if giannis, lebron, KD, Kyrie, and kawhi Leonard wanted to join 1 team and force their ways out of their teams you’d be ok with that? “Player empowerment” my ass
@@jaminhodges3123 um a trade doesn’t void a contract.What are you talking about?
And as a businessman he knows that just like how teams can ship players out without finishing a contract, players can pull leverage cards and make moves themselves. Only people who don’t look at these players as human beings have an issue with this
Would love to see Draymond to the nets in a package for kd and then see what he says on his podcast
That would never happen
Are u a GM?
Steph Curry would never allow that silly trade. Because Steph realizes that Dray's passes are the keys to Steph's great legacy.
@@1sagacious1 lol "the keys to Steph's great legacy" that's a bit overexaggerated. You make Steph sound like a catch and shoot role player, Steph can create his own shots too. I do agree with Steph not allowing the trade because Dray is important to their defensive chemistry though.
lol warriors were the worst team in the league with Dramond running things without his 2 shooters
Is crazy how NBA teams will sign someone to tell them that they're going to stay with the team, then trade them and no one makes a big deal about it. But let a NBA player sign a contract then wants to leave. It's a problem The clippers did it to Blake Griffin
These guys are grossly over paid
That situation was Blake's fault. He should've signed a 1 year deal in 2017 and renegotiated again in 2018. He would've had 8 years in the league at that point and been eligible for a no trade clause. Same thing happened with DeRozan, he signed his long term deal too early and ended up getting trading while sitting in the parking lot at jack in the box.
@@staios18 not really overpaid when you bring in so much money
@@NatisCole if that's the case then it's Brooklyn fault for offering Kevin Durant a 4 year deal They should have offer him a one year deal
Who’s paying who? Are you getting paid or are you paying?
I’m enjoying how mad Draymond is making the media 😂😂
@Beery No he is speaking facts
@@onenation768 he's literally yapping nonsense.
@@onenation768 what facts?
@Beery Problem is y’all mad that these basketball players got power and control where they want to go so when the media put fake narratives nba players now have a voice they own pod cast shut bs down
@Beery Your just pawn like rest of media
Only NBA athletes can sign 200 million dollar deals and the next year ask out and still get their money and call it business. Try that outside of being an athlete, after you signed the contract.
😂 imagine walking up to your boss and saying "send me to another job or I'll take your money and sit at home until it happens"
@@arlondwilliams971 😂
@@arlondwilliams971 😂🤣😂🤣
Imagine a business signing you for 5 years hundreds of millions then trading you after one
@@arlondwilliams971 😂😂✌🏾
I think he was referring to the ability to move from team to team. Those guys in the 80's didn't have the agency to do that.
That's not new bro
Yes they did they were just brainwashed to stay in there place.
Nah the difference is most stars back then didn't move from team to team. They absolutely could've dictated where they wanted to go if they chose to.
@@kevindownes9474 No it was because the were brainwashed and scared and knew there place but King James changed all that that's why the media and the league went after Lebron.
@@mustangs263 right teams can trade players at the drop of a hat but players cant because of “dog” and “him”. Kevin heurter literally found out he was traded out the blue.
The problem with what Dray said is that KD can't be in convos amongst the absolute best (MJ, Kobe, Curry) if he can't overcome adversity while leading a team. He can make all the business moves to make money (thats perfectly fine) just don't be upset when you not considered in this particular bracket of players.
The problem is nobody cares about that legacy bs convo this is old media views athletes living they life doing what they want period
@@boomdynamite33 Wrong! Lol everyone debates legacies everyday
@@boomdynamite33 Sounds like a cop out to support mediocrity. Learn to deal with the cards you're dealt and do better. If you can't, feel free to move and make money (thats awesome!!), just don't be upset when you not considered the greatest. That's like someone born into wealth being upset they not considered a "self-made millionaire".
Sounds like old heads hating
@@Ben2bwild people debate them but at the end of the day they only matter if KD cares, we can say all this stuff but he’s chilling at the end of the day
Trust me. They gone be making plenty of business decisions when that new CBA come through. Good luck with that.
🤣🤣🤣🤣i love this comment
Lockout for sure happening lol
@@tjr2312 yeap can't wait💯
Gonna be interesting lmao
That's what the players don't realize these owners are billionaires and people like that think long term not short term. They're letting the players get away with a lot of stuff and let them think they're doing some kind of self empowerment when in the end the players are going to get destroyed in the next CBA because the owners are just letting the players build a case for them.
As a younger person, I felt so guilty realizing how right the odd couple is about this topic, while also being just as aggravated with what Draymond said.
u sound fake af. who talks like that? comments seems to be very biased i wanna say paid fake comments but that's not something i can prove.
I'm a warriors fan, so I love Draymond waaaaaaay more than I care for Rob Parker.
But I 100% disagree with draymond on this one and 100% agree with Rob.
Only bad businessmen try to avoid fulfilling their contracts.
That's complete garbage behavior from a business perspective, if I was a businessman I wouldn't wanna do business with a person who has no respect for a contract.
If you wanted a person or something that was under contract and owe by someone else. I am thinking forget their contract I want that … that’s how business ppl think. When you can or you to try to get out of a contract does make you a bad person or business person
One of the most overrated players in the last 20yrs.
@@reach5589 if defense is overrated I guess
Who is a better on and off ball defender that can switch from 1-5 than Dray in the past 7 years
If it wasn't in his contact to be able to request trade .KD wouldn't be able to do so. So I don't get contractual obligation arguments. The athletes do what their contracts allow them to do
In theory this sounds right but that team can trade him anytime and would if it was in the best interest of them…..the fact that teams can trade players voids the “players should stick to their contracts and play out their time on a specific team”
Dray is the kind of guy that thinks he’s smarter than anyone else and won’t stop telling you that. The guy is insufferable. I like GSW for the splash brothers and Kerr but I would love to see Dray lose to eat some humble pie.
If you’re a Warriors fan, you would not really that like that
@@jayplunks not really what like what?
Everyone hates a dude like draymond. Does all the talking and then his big brothers have to back it up.
If that 15 win season didn’t humble him nothing will
He shouldve got some when Klay and Steph were both injured and he led them to the draft lottery
@@LoftyXsWaGX34 when he played with rookies and wiggins traded half way thru the season? Yea they were bad and in 2022 those players he won 15 games with, flourished
draymond is pushing it. you know what's good business? signing a contract and sticking to it. in most worlds you would have a lawsuit on your hands. stop the crap.
Yea but then if your franchise isn’t feeling you they can shed you anywhere they want that’s good for them. I don’t totally agree with what Draymond is saying but if players have to honor their contracts so should teams.
Draymond needs to sit down with Rob. Broussard would go easy on him.
@@marcuscarpenter7230 ?? the team was the reason the player even had a chance to play. Thats the way it works. You play for a Franchise and after you sign, you are an asset for them. If a trade becomes available that you believe will help then you make that trade. I know stars have a lot of power but its not called the Brooklyn Durants, its called the Brooklyn Nets.
@@kobe91724 I agree but players shouldn’t be stuck with a team if they made empty promises or underperformed and it wasn’t your fault if kd underperforms he’s out of the nets front office or gm or anything underperforms he’s just under contract and can’t do anything? I’m not fully on Draymond side but I def don’t have a problem with kd saying he wants out
@@marcuscarpenter7230 but that doesn't make him a business man lol that's what this is about. im also a lawyer- i look at contracts differently. it is a business transaction lol and if you under perform or breach it in any way you typically pay a price. this is just some crap ball players can get away with apparently. both he and kyrie need to get the heck outta my state lol this drama aint worth it.
Business men have to respect their contracts…. Just saying
Lol...you think so🤨
In sports you can request for a trade under contract though. I will say in KD and Kyrie’s case they are more so just quitting.
That go both ways…. Players get traded all the time under contract…
@Beery They are not employees they are contractors, which mean a conversation can had at any moment from either side. Case and point James Harden was under contract for a certain amount but they had a conversation to extend him while helping the team. This is exactly what Draymond is saying like it or not star players will always hold power.
Take Donald Trump for example...
No cap. Chris and Rob are sounding like old geezers lol.
Old heads stressing out cause they jobs becoming east and it’s not hard to do just talk after the fact
When you’re in the NBA and getting paid 30mil plus a year, you a a basketball players first. No if ands or buts about it. You are richer than 99.999% of people to ever live and that’s and understatement. If you want to do business, do it in a way where it won’t affect basketball.
Exactly. I love Dray but that statement about them being a business is a head scratcher for me. They are players, and work for businesses/teams and are paid by them. They don't own the teams even though lately it seems as if they think they do. This next CBA is going to take away some of their power. These sign a contract and then demand a trade before the ink is dry is destroying the game. IMO
Ever player is a business entity. Even those of us working a 9 to 5. Secure then Leverage your power for better conditions
fr. there's something about being a man that puts fulfilling your duty and keeping your word over everything that these younger generations really lack.
Yep
@@kevindownes9474 My father all ways told me that you sign up for something, you tell someone you are going to do something, then you have to honor and stand on that. Period.
Chris always got to bring LeBron into ANY conversation and flip it to make him look good lol
You mad
Lebron has a lot of good examples lol
Don’t forget he’s been in the league for 20 years
Yes
Chris been Lebron’s lapdog for a good decade and half. Nick Wright and him squabble over who gets to spend more time there.
Chris an Rob are jealous. This is what they sound like hating on Curry and Chris is a flip flop!
Until you own a franchise you still an employee. Your checks might be bigger than 97% of Americans but it still cut by a boss.
I love this show. Rob and Chris don’t stop! Great chemistry even tho their takes can be polar opposites lol which helps actually. Love this show
Rob is horrible
@@e2zbasketball288 he's as trash as skip
@@e2zbasketball288 so is Skip. At times. But they don’t budge and I truly believe they mean what they say and for me it’s hard to Knock. Plus Robs been an OG. MLB HOF voter. That’s dope
Chris stop cleaning your teeth during the show man.
I love this show Rob is literally hilarious
"IS THIS THING ON?!!" lol
"Hello"
I miss Rob on Undisputed. But glad he's here
@@MikeBNumba6 i listen to him on the odd couple podcast
To be fair to Draymond, I remember when Lebron first moved to LA, Rob and others said he was out the championship business
Has nothing to do with this argument. He honored his contract. That’s one thing LeBron James has always done
@@RightStickRob a yeah but killed the future of the cavs twice
@@k-way8471 Yes but he did it at a point in which they can prepare for it. If you’re leaving at the end of your contract which every player has the right to do the team cannot be surprised that you’re not there. When you leave after signing a four year extension you literally destroy all the plans of the current organization
@@k-way8471 he killed the future of the cavs twice ? Lmao can you name what talent he was surrounded with the first 7 years of his career in Cleveland ? He got them a ring the second time around, there are 12 nba teams that never won a ring ever, bruh I swear y’all love talking out the side of y’all necks.
Besides the bubble they were right. Disney ring city
He doesn’t control where he goes next? The Brooklyn nets control where he goes next because he signed a contract ?
Yes
A player of KD statue always gonna have say
@RFM Recordings for the most part your right but I'd be willing to bet for the right price Toronto would be like yeah we won't care if he's happy or not so long as he's on the roster
@@DeShawnMcDonald true they literally did that exact thing with Kawhi
@@kevindownes9474 yeah they legit said yeah were cool with throwing away a good bit of our future for a one year rental, also they had no clue they would win a chip off it that was just the best the could hope for and I doubt nba GMs are making decisions based on what they hope they honestly probably were just as cool getting a star player to get people to buy tickets as they were competing
Well, some businessman understand the parameters of contract before signing.
Clearly he understood and that’s why he REQUESTED a trade. He didn’t break the contact. What is wrong with the men in this comment section?
@@DrAmber2004 Jealous idiots that have never signed a business contract of this magnitude in their lives. We all know in all forms of business, there are outs in the contracts for both parties.
And KD has not done anything to break his contract. So this narrative needs to stop until he does something to break his contract.
@@omarhasan03 and calling him weak for wanting to move. It’s his life he should do fear he wants. It’s his life and his money.
@@DrAmber2004 I wasn't referring to KD I meant in general. But since that's who you chose, KD isn't wrong for requesting a trade, it's understanding the reason why he signed it. Its ok to collaborate with your friends and try to make it work but when your careers and futures are on the line, it's about your quality and quantity.
@@omarhasan03 thank you and I was I addressing the Draymond comment. KD had the right to request the trade, I was just saying that he should've thought about it before signing to play with Kyrie and have this result.
I already know Rob gonna go off
The Nets control where KD goes lmfao. KD can request a trade, but that's like requesting a location transfer at work. The boss can say no lol
Draymond is just trying to protect KD's feelings, so that KD might end up traded to GS. The concern for KD's feelings is odd, considering Draymond was the one who publicly called him a bitch and told him that GS didn't need him because they already had a 'chip without KD.
Draymond is absolutely right, a team trades a guy "they made a business decision", guy leaves team, "he's a runner, or a coward".
I think teams should be criticized for poor loyalty, especially to loyal players.
The fact that Draymond is independent, a business man and says he is the new media burns the old heads up lol.
YUP. You can tell they’re fearful because they know they’ll soon be obsolete.
why lol Draymond don't even have his facts straight. now their business men. 😂 how dumb can you be?
I love when Rob says "HELLO...Is this thing on??" 🤣
Draymond won’t ever be close to Barkley. Barkley was the loveable guy when he was playing, and he also criticizes players! Dray hardly ever criticizes players and that’s why Barkley is appealing.
Dray agrees with players even when they are clearly in the wrong, like Ben Simmons. Dray would make a horrible GM.
@@baldeagle4710 yep, you’re right. Consumers of media don’t like that. He won’t be a big deal after he retires. You have to be objective as a former player.
Tv ratings go down when the best players move from team to team. And if the ratings go down, the money goes down
What I love is the fact that the superstar players are doing to the clubs what the clubs do to regular players. You can’t keep selling players against their wishes and not expect thesame treatments from players.
If you cut the checks you should have more leverage. That's business
The team doesn't age bro player's do they have a shelf life
Nets did everything KD wanted...you soff like him
@@soda8736 I agree and don't get why most people don't understand this. That's not to say the owners have every right to treat the players like trash, but they should be able to do what is best for the team
@@johnnyfive9815 The teams are worth Billions. The players are just dudes playing a children's game.
Thank god for podcasts. Now we can hear everyone all over the globe say something stupid.
Everyone of these guys/woman takes this stuff personal. Then say they don’t everyone is just sensitive at this point. World has changed athletes and the talking heads
Wait... How exactly are they taking it personal again?
I understand Dray’s point. Today’s NBA stars makes more money and can afford to open there own platform and speak there minds without having to run to a show and sportscasters don’t like independent media
You can start a pod cast with $100
Nah draymond made zero point. It’s not about speaking minds, athletes have been doing that for a long time. He doesnt want himself and his “brothers” to get criticized on his game and should just earn all the money in the world without accountability. He wants more player power, getting paid without doing whats required, it’s not new media vs old media, it’s jut media that doesnt allow criticism on any player thats new media draymond prefers. He’s an idiot and a 🤡
Meanwhile their neighborhoods tore up and getting worse and you spending money on podcasts and women smh maaan
what does that have to KD?? he is defending KD with that??
@@widowsson8192 if you’re a 4x NBA champion you could do better then that lousy $100 podcaster.. what’s your point?
Business is business y’all gotta get out your feelings cuz they don’t pay 💩 It is what it is. If KD wants to leave he has the power request it. These players have the power to play where they want if they are good enough,like it or not.Dray was talking about business moves inside the NBA not outside ventures. Way to take it out of context. Great job
When the clip is traded Blake Griffin or when they sign a player then right away trade them. No one says anything about it. It seems like everyone's upset when it's the other way around
@@thaddeusbrownjr2107 facts
@@thaddeusbrownjr2107 big facts….and it’s thing like that that make players use their talent as leverage to be where they want to be and not be where they don’t want to be. Pre LeBron players were at the mercy of the owners and GMs…95% of the players still are but that 5% that rise above the rest are in control of their own destiny and destinations in the league. Nobody gave James Harden this much energy and the flip side of that is Westbrook. He been on 4 teams in like 5 years because teams didn’t want to pay him so they ship him to desperate teams. Now he damn near out the league if he don’t show out next season he probably will be.
The fact that they took it out of context is exactly what Dray is talking about old media. They are the fake news of sports.
He’s not saying they’re the first businessmen to be in the nba. He’s saying that they’re the first group to treat their basketball related contracts and moves like business decisions
Draymond just flapping his gums…he says the outrageous to get attention for his podcast
Draymond pissing everybody off with his podcast 🤣🤣
That's cap....business men honor their contracts. They don't go back to their business associates and tell them they no longer want to honor the contract they signed and demand to be accommodated. These guys are acting like cry babies and punks not business men
Exactly!
Lmao Durant is under contract and not a free agent....he can't control where he goes
Rob: No, i want you to go first Chris.
Also Rob: kept talking
Right lol
I didn’t take Draymond Green’s comments to imply this generational players are the only ones to become businessmen. They are actually standing on the shoulders of the previous generation and making career decisions with business in mind. It’s not a criticism in as much as it’s am homage.
Love how much pride Rob has when speaking about the media and journalism
He has to have pride. He's defending his profession. Right?
He's defending his profession in the midst of Draymond KD JJ STACK Kyrie Lebron are now stealing their meal tickets, with this new media angle. I love it, too!
Even here, Rob and Chris are so unfair and dishonest in their analyst. For example, in yesteryears only Jordan and Magic were the publicly-praised businessmen of the NBA... whereas today? EVERY PLAYER is now a businessman like only Jordan and Magic used to be praised for. Rob and Chris are being deceitful by pretending Draymond is saying something other than that.
he has no choice, eventually his generation will fade out
Can’t accept the fact that athletes don’t have to play by their rules
@@1sagacious1 I love this analysis and watch it’s going to be a trend to start coming at draymond in the media.
@@1sagacious1 Just because Magic and Jordan were the most publicized doesn’t mean other players weren’t business minded. There are countless others that can be mentioned.
Damn. I swear this show has gotten a lot better in the last few months.
10:21 Rob knows damn well he did it! first things first compliments are not allowed! Lol
I don’t think Draymond said he invented the wheel he just said nba players are more business oriented and now he invented business? They really stretch his words
Yes but be was referring to KD and hr dont control his destination. The nets do
Hello! Is this on? Rob Parker voice 🤣
Colin agrees with draymond and that’s exactly why he’s mentoring him on the dl.
I’m not a draymond fan at all but I do love how he gets these dudes so mad. 😂.
I don’t know everything but I know for a FACT that a big part of their problem is that dray gets so much attention and they just don’t. 🤷♂️.
It hurts their ego. And not just dray but all the players with their own platforms now and what is “the new media” lol.
Exactly. Its a pattern that they think no one sees. Theres a dray hate lately and brou is letting nick rub off.on him lol..
He is exposing them and these media heads are falling for ever drop of it
Brilliant response from Rob and Chris. And they left out Shaq! Shaq is a mega businessman. Hell, he was in fkn Hollywood films while playing! NBA players as businessmen/brands is not even close to a new concept.
Draymond be having y’all salty
@@realspitter2727 Draymond should think before he speaks 🤷🏽♂️
@@Los150 or he can do what he wants.
@@realspitter2727 and we can comment on it, Aristotle lol
@@Los150 I bet he’s so bothered by your saltiness
Shaq is and has been one of the biggest businessman there is.. all these guys have had side company’s and endeavors. If Kevin Durant is a business then he needs to be sued like one.. he signed the contract, make him play.
can’t sue him until he breaches the contract. To request is to ask, he isn’t breached yet.
Only the star athletes before was businessmen not the average players it’s a difference nowadays Draymond right
Dray’s podcast was great. His breakdown of the trades was excellent.
Nah he is trash
Basketball players need to understand, fans come to watch a basketball player and not a business
Can y’all stop talkin about this dude?! ..athletes were businessmen back in the day ..he act like he’s the spokesperson of the nba
That’s not what he said. You should listen to his full podcast. It was only ten minutes. They are lying and taking his comments out of context
@@DrAmber2004 I’m not listenin to that haughty mf lol
Draymond turning into the thing he says he hates the most… an entertainer and not an analyst… dude just be saying anything
It is weak because he wants to go to another stacked team and in business you sign a contract you honor it and nobody told him to sign that four year deal
Suns not stacked especially after they trade for him …heat not stacked especially after they trade for him …if he was to join those teams as a free agent then you have a point.
That’s the problem.. Anyone making millions of dollars is a business man. Don’t mean you’re a GREAT ONE.
Time to reshuffle the deck at collective bargaining Owners
Yep; these dingbats are going to mess things up for the next generation and tell them they should be grateful. - lets see what the talk is when the new-new media starts going at them for messing everything up
Bruh y’all really didn’t listen to what Draymond said at all. They are doing something the old generation couldn’t do. They’re utilizing their talents to leverage against the owners. Bron shifted the Paradigm and others have built on that.
Bron finished his contract. KD signed a four year extension and now wants out before he even started it lol
bron started the soft era coz hes the softest face of the league ever. complain, build superteams, cry, quit, change narratives - and dumb kids believe
He's right. And everytime a player demands a trade a yr into a new 5 yr deal the league she reduce their salaries by 20%. Bc that fanbase and organization gets screwed bc of your selfish decisions
And everytime a front office makes Stupid bball decisions players should get 15% bonus for waste and mismanagement
These organizations need to stop letting players bulldoze them. I wouldn't even entertain trading KD. The guy has 4 years left on his deal, this is insane. He would either play or sit for 4 years, his choice.
@@NatisCole 50 mil a year for him to sit. I doubt it. They would trade him. But if they don’t KD will definitely play. I don’t see him doing the Ben Simmons.
Rob Parker literally just be talking.
Shout out to my boy Draymond. He's right. I'm happy to start seeing these boyz moving like "bidness men." Big dawg statement.
Signing a contract and demanding a trade doesn't make you a business man. Sports is about competition, achievement, and triumph. It's not about where can I go to find the easiest path to winning. That's not the spirit of sports. Especially if you are one of the biggest difference makers in the league. Why are you demanding to only play for teams that are already contenders. Make the team you're on a contender! It's not even like they have a bad team. That's an I don't want to compete hard move....don't have nothing to do with being a business man. Draymond is completely out of context
I feel like “baffling” is only word draymond knows. He is constantly baffled by things
Ok, so players should have to uproot their families at anytime when the owners want to trade them, but players shouldn’t have any influence over where they go outside of free agency…and even then, they should deal with unfair detrimental criticism if they don’t make the “preferred” choice of the general public and spectators (eg KD to GSW)? I’m just trying to understand the “yes massa”, company man mentality in this video and the comment section.
Thank you! They act like these men are slaves and should just be happy they are getting paid. Idk why these two care so much? It’s all hating if you ask me. Edit:dogs=so
Unfortunately my 90's generation of sports had a largely shut up and dribble mentality. I aint mad at the youngins pushing the line. The owners did it for decades
@@DrAmber2004 that can all be true but at the same time....what does this do to the fans who are fans of the teams 🤔
If these players don’t wanna be traded, they can still get a no trade clause. Stop acting like it’s the same thing.
@@DrAmber2004 did you just compare multimillionaire athletes who play a kids game to slaves? Gtfo
Draymond spoke truth. Just because you don’t like it don’t mean it ain’t truth. Don’t be mad
Draymond is 100% right and Rob Parker is delusional He thinks he's God's gift to journalism along with Chris Broussard you could push back on him you're just did! I think Draymond was trying to say is that the media needs to stop with this drama and all of this narrative about players
Anger is not a fun emotion to have. I would rather listen to people speaking with peace and love.
I’m so confused there’s a contract you sign it, but you have the option to ask for a trade while under said contract. That doesn’t mean they have to do the trade, so why are y’all mad at player for exercising that options. Like Draymond said it’s a small percentage of players that can actually do it!
Draymond just isn't comparing apples to apples. His if a person goes from Google to Apple to Tesla nobody cares but you give NBA athletes a hard time. Well Apple, Google, Telsa didn't make you sign a contract to stand by. They also didn't change their whole business model to work around you. The Nets bent over backwards for you and did everything you asked. Stand by what you signed and make it work when the owners have done everything for you. If he is leaving because he doesn't think Kyrie was treated right I lost even more respect for him. If the nets ownership was incompetent and not putting the pieces around him or what they promised when signing him ok fine but thats not the case here. You can call it old school or new era hater whatever you want I just have a lot more respect for a player that says na I am going to make it worke and figure how to stay here and beat the best not go join them or bail first sign of trouble. Lots of respect for what Giannis did just like Jordan back in the day. Not saying a player doesn't have the right to go do what he wants but don't pull an Anthony Davis, or James Hardin, KD...etc and force your way out and whine like you are being treated unfairly or media is just being ridiculous and this is just a new era player making smarter business decisions. Own your decision. You quit on your team plain and simple. Move on.
Draymond tries to discredits everyone’s opinion in the media as if he’s the smartest person in the room. As if no one in the media knows anything about sports.
They make a good point about draymond. He only does his podcast alone, that way nobody can challenge him
@12mins rob proved one of draymond points 😁 he said the money is a big reason
I’m far from a Draymond fan but he’s right and these old guys and owners can’t stand it. Part of me want the players to thug it out and figure it out but no because these same players careers and destiny have been controlled since the league started and now players are having more say so and i love it but of course you have guys like Kyrie who will abuse that power and ruin it eventually
Facts these old white men have a problem because black men understand there power
I understand the point of Green but the real competition of the game is now not the num 1 priority.
The media is upset because players aren't slaves to their bosses like the media. Also the media for the most part only criticizes players. They never talk bad about teams being ran horribly. Bad drafts, bad trades, no player development etc.
Yeah they do. They always trash Sacramento and the Timberwolves
@@jaydell4039 they're selective with the teams they criticize.
Now if this is true I will never watch again. I have never missed a Celtic game as far as I know since I was a boy. I’ll be 41
The league is vastly different from when u first started watching if only I could have watched before the superteam era.
@@culturehub2628 the superteam era been here for a while lol I guess it depends on what you define a superteam as
@@culturehub2628 Super teams have existed since the 60's.
Draymond is a damn 🤡, how does KD control where he gets traded? That is just absolute nonsense.
No time in history would a player like Matt Barnes be a business man😭
lol facts
I'm a warriors fan but now it feels like nonsense. He's acting super weird after winning championship. He just rants for 11-12 minutes straight.
Business men sign contracts void them find better deals all the time that's what lawyers are for. What people are trying to say is black men everything you do better be by the book and moral while everyone else not held to that standard. You will lose but at least you will do it with grace. I can hear it now. "why you bring race into blah blah blah" I'm not here to make you feel comfortable. and just for you even thinking I need to make you comfortable pay black Americans reparations.
Kevin Durant did not leave Golden State to show that he's a leader elsewhere. He left because the medical staff lied to him and told him that he was okay. This is a direct parallel with kawhi Leonard's injury and Isaiah Thomas's injury on the Celtics.
Love how rob and Chris Bring up one off athletes to be good business men remember how many athletes are broke compared to now
They’re Not Broke Due To Being Worst Businessman… They’re Broke Cuz They Simply Didnt Make Anywhere Near As Much Money… It’s Easier To Go Broke When You’ve Made $20 Million In Yo Entire Career, As Opposed To When You Make $20 Million Every Season
Chris and Rob gotta start letting ppl who don't agree with them finish thier statements 🤣😂.
I agree with Draymond
It's like one of these players have each other on their podcasts all they do is pet each other on their back and say how great they are and they never question anything about each other.
Draymond enjoy your rings. 💯👍👍👍 Your talking to much, and you don't know anything.
Athletes have been businessmen my whole life. Being a businessman takes money and athletes have been rich as long as I've been alive.
I can accept it. But they're not. They have business managers
I would love if Draymond would come on the Odd Couple
The dummies who support what green is saying should have no issue watching a league then where superstars don’t stay in a team for more than 2 years or a year even if they sign Max contracts Or giannis, lebron, KD all joining each other.
Who would Wanna watch this product? The modern NBA is in shambles take KD and these flakey superstars out watching teams like GSW, Celtics, Phoenix and Dallas is actually interesting
How that any different than what teams do to players non stop? Blake Griffin got traded right after signing his MAX. It's worse in football where they have no leverage. People have been crying about superteams for the last 13 years and no one has stopped watching the product.
@@christianjames92 Rating have been horrific for NBA unlike NFL cuz NFL has more control over its players.
The NBA is very unreliable I don’t even wanna buy jerseys anymore cuz idk who’s staying anymore (besides the young guys)
@@culturehub2628 Ratings are up year to year.
@@christianjames92 at a more dwindling dwindling rate as opposed to the 80’s and 90’s and early 2000’s look at the finals ratings as well. Still the most viewed finals ever in history was in the MJ era.
Those examples of Magic Johnson and others got into business AFTER their careers, these players today are building several forms of income WHILE PLAYING still. Former athletes became businessmen, current athletes today are businessmen!