Very good engine which only had a bad reputation for failure due to useless owners who never checked the oil level or never bothered servicing it. Serviced correctly these engines are good for 300k miles.
true words :( It's a good balanced engine built to last. Best used in the clio 3 with 210 NM and 6 short gears. Damn this even makes fun. Power to weight ratio is good and diesel consumption (when driving chilled) is very low 👍 (not a rocket, BUT very snappy compared to cars in this class)
Don't blame Renault for iresposible car owners. I have a scenic with 1.9dci and 200k and runs like new. But oil is top quality 5-40w C3 spec and change every 15k. Best car i ever had.
,i have renault scenic 2 with 1,5 engine and 105 hp .Now my car have 260 000 km and engine is still Ok .I change the oil every 10 000 km with 5w30 ELF evolution only and one time year i clean the EGR valve .
I have 1,5 78kw 278 000 km withouth problems. I use good quality oil and strictly observe the intervals. After starting, I don't immediately turn to maximum speed, but I let the engine warm up by driving calmly.
I had the same immediately when i bought the new megane 3. They said in service that one part was put from renault scenic and it was going into some vibrations. I`m not sure if to believe them. Did u fix your problem? What was the reason of this sound? Sorry for my english.
Where is the timebelt cover? I think you skipt a few teeth, because debris on the timingbelt. There good engines if maintained well. Mine still runs over 540k.
hola, yo tuve el mismo problema a los 110.000km y actualmente estoy reconstruyendo el motor yo mismo. El problema esta en que las tapetas de biela se degradan, dejando restos metálicos por todo el circuito de lubricación. Estas virutas, bloquean los lubricadores bajo piston y válvula de seguridad de la bomba de aceite dejándola completamente abierta, por lo que el circuito de lubricación pierde la presión necesaria para la lubricación de bielas y cigüeñal. Todo esto acelera el desgaste de las tapetas de biela y acaba por favorecer en desgaste entre bielas y muñequillas de cigüeñal. Los sombreretes del árbol de levas también sufren desgaste. No recomiendo reparar el coche por la cantidad de materiales que hay que sustituir y el excesivo coste de la reparación. He llamado varias veces a Renault y me ha ignorado en mi reclamación. Saben que hay muchísimos afectados por este problema pero parece no importarles nada. Yo jamás volveré a comprar Renault.
i agree mate,i had 5 times renault,and i would buy a renault in the future for the 6th time,you have to take care of your engine if the engine wants you take care of you, renault are a good makers of good histroy cars
No... engine was bad already, rod knock; LOTS and LOTS of 1.5 dCI Renaults go bad like that; avoid -----IF you are married to one, DO SPEND the money on OIL CHANGES,(that is VERY bad for the environment, but that is what the ** Greenphissers** dictate with their lunatic efficiency laws...looooong story...) or it will go bad on you too.
I have similar car 1.5dci hatch 56 plate. Only done 81000 approx. Already had oil leak at 41000 turned out to be seal for crankshaft(changed timing belt as well)....luckily was under warranty. No problems from 41000 to 81000. Service light come on next day driving at 60mph all of a sudden it sounded like something got caught in engine loud grumbling noise pulled over oil pissing out and flicking up from belt area. No warning lights on dash but did notice fuel consumption down from usual 56+ to 55.6. Wasnt worried as had slow puncture. Now wont start. Great.
Hi, my turbo broke and a bit of metal went inside the piston and made a little scrach on the piston. Now after i fixed the turbo it knocks on low rotation. what problems can i get from this? Or its just nois and everything else will work just ok ?
I suspect the big end shells wiĺl need replacing. Is the noise from the bottom end? When the turbo popped, did the engine keep running after turning off the ignition? If so, the car has effectively been running with no oil and will have wrecked the shells. The shells are cheap enough but not an easy fix.
Please, i have similar problem with my Megane 2005 1.5 dci, Automatic Transmission, kilometer 157 XXX . I am very worried it will cost me so much money to repair it. Please how much does it cost to fix your car or is it better to change the engine completely? Any advice will be so appreciated, thanks
well, if you have exactly the same issue (broken conrod) you will need to pay about £1000 on parts (crankshaft, conrod, piston, rings, valves, etc) plus labour.
I hate these engines, so many different cars that have the 1.5 dci k9k engines, all the problem ones i've seen were k9k 732 and number one crank bearing wears out you'll be driving and when you turn a corner the oil warning screams at you, you stop, turn off, check oil level which is fine and start up and it will be ok, then you need to turn again lol
Most people don't get repair cost for French cars are extremely affordable If you have to rebuild Mercedes ,BMW or Audi Engines you would have to sell your house in order to get the money
You must be 60 years old and you are relating to how Renault built cars in the past . I have a Renault laguna 1.5 dci and the car is one of the smartest cars ever Dashboard warns to start the car if you are listening to radio for along time To prevent battery discharge , dasboard tells you when you need to replace card battery . My key card went to the washing machine for 3 hours Car still recognised the card key like nothing happened . Renault made improvements
I know this sound. Unfortunately, it cost me a whole lot of money. Megane is my worst car so far. Problem after problem. One thing is fixed and few days or weeks after completely different part gets fucked up. My advice- don't EVER but this car. Unless you've got to much money.
+Adrien Aubert All of my problems appeared a week after I bought this piece of crap. And every time I fix another part I'm like "No. I can't sell it. I've put so much money in it. It cannot broke again." And my car is like "Huh. Wanna bet? Challenge accepted". But even my patience has its limits. Megane ( alias mean bitch) has to go. And I will NOT buy a Renault ever again. Even of someone would like to give me a Brand New Renault for free.
+Dori1703 Hahaha, I laughed so much! I can't say that I had a lot of problems with my Clio3 but only strange noises that I don't like, strong vibrations and a smoky exhaust gas... Renault has great cars now, but the experience with this brand is that I don't think I'm gonna buy an other one! An other one "Renault, nothing can stop it, not even the brakes" but we are used to this one for Renault tractors ;-)
Warranty direct ,deals with all car repairs by insuring vehicle parts and repairs . For this reason their car reliability index unlike yours , is not created from peoples imagination, is created from a Insurance database. You don't have a clue how cars are made in this days or you would realise things like Engine start , brakes , wipers , estability control , are made by Company called Bosh which builds the same components to BMW , my satnav was built by Tom Tom , Renault builds very little.
Not really, my friend. Just read the thread and you will see it was a broken con rod which killed 2 valves and the crankshaft. I replaced the half of the engine that you can see from my other video (link above).
Bugajauzsi I thought it was just the head gasket. What did you do to that engine to do that much damage in only 200tkm? These things go for 400tkm without an overhaul. :/
Veniessubdentem I got the car like this. See the link above and you will understand what was the problem if you are already lazy to read the thread through. cylinder head and gasket is a wrong guess.
One of the most horrid engines ever made. It's likely the timing belt has slipped. Your looking at least a couple of valves and probably a replacement piston to fix this. I've rebuilt my own engine three times due to various disasters this engine is prone to suffer from. Basically, if you can't do the work yourself it's time for a new car, the labour will be mega bucks (second hand engines are a rip off too). Getting the sump off to change the piston is a nightmare (only car I've ever had that the valves break the piston(s) in a belt failure). Subframe has to come off (miracle if the captive nuts are still captive), it is possible without removing the subframe and can be done by freeing the driveshafts and jacking the engine high but is extremely tricky. The timing tools are a must, even though I don't normally subscribe to them with other cars I've worked on. Also, it's important to note that the crank pulley is not keyed and has to be torqued very high to stop it self-destructing the engine for a second time! The top end is straight forward enough to put back together, apart from the cam pulley which has probably snapped its key when the belt slipped. After all that effort and you're back on the road it will only be a matter of time until the turbo pops and wrecks your engine again. Expect to replace the wiring loom at some point along with the injectors and eventually the fuel pump which will involve ridiculous amounts of effort cleaning the fuel system before re-fitment. All things considered, it's time to light a match and never look back! ;) Good luck!
TRe' CooL Yes, it's certainly economical when it works. Just wait for your first repair bill, unless you know how to repair it yourself, it's a false economy! All car's are great when they work. There is literally no-one with this engine who bought it for the performance, so it's hardly likely to have been ragged, the common faults these engines have cost in the thousands to fix, that's not reliable! Doesn't affect me, I can fix them but would never recommend this to anyone who can't do the work themselves.
TRe' CooL No, I know nothing of that engine. Specifically the 1.5 dci I'm talking about. I have a 1.2 8v petrol as well, which is a nice, reliable little engine (maybe a bit sluggish but was never designed to be fast). I have nothing in particular against Renault, I have two Clios which I got for peanuts because they were going to be scrapped because of the garage bills. I'm merely warning people about the costs and effort involved if these engines go wrong. As said, when it works it's great. When it doesn't, it's going to cost mega bucks!
ye, ye, just saying, because from 2002(3) - 2005 there were thisi 82 and 101 HP engines, and after 2006, 86 and 106 HP engines, and I think they reworked them,.. but on this pic it's the 106 hp one
Dude sorry to say this you dont know anything about car reliability The information bellow is from ( Warranty Direct ) Which covers Car repairs by insuring them this is the 10 Less Reliable cars in The U.K According with (Warranty Direct) . 1 AUDI RS6 2 BMW M5 3 Mercedes-Benz V-Class 4 Porsche 911 996 5 Mercedes-Benz CL 6 Mercedes-Benz SL 7 Bentley Continental GT 8 Audi Q7 9 Audi A6 Allroad 10 Mercedes-Benz R-Class
Renault 1.5dci 1.4mpi 1.6mpi most last long engines i ever heared about. these engine s can run hundreds of thousands of km without a problem with oil changed at time
Ya, this is a shit model of car and engine. The problem may have been bad maintenance at some point but not the cause of all the problems. The engine alone was bad enough and then the electrics made the whole experience worse. I learned my lesson with a Renault. The thing is their engines are in many other vehicles too - Dacia, Suzuki, Nissan, Infiniti and even the A Class, B Class and CLA Class Mercedes have the dirty fucker 1.5 dci. AVOID. The real disappointment for me was that the Megane I had was super comfortable and great to drive and great handling....but only if it started.
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Very good engine which only had a bad reputation for failure due to useless owners who never checked the oil level or never bothered servicing it.
Serviced correctly these engines are good for 300k miles.
true words :(
It's a good balanced engine built to last. Best used in the clio 3 with 210 NM and 6 short gears. Damn this even makes fun. Power to weight ratio is good and diesel consumption (when driving chilled) is very low 👍
(not a rocket, BUT very snappy compared to cars in this class)
Don't blame Renault for iresposible car owners. I have a scenic with 1.9dci and 200k and runs like new. But oil is top quality
5-40w C3 spec and change every 15k. Best car i ever had.
Exactly. Look after the car and it will run without any problems. Have had 3 Renault now and never had any issues with any.
,i have renault scenic 2 with 1,5 engine and 105 hp .Now my car have 260 000 km and engine is still Ok .I change the oil every 10 000 km with 5w30 ELF evolution only and one time year i clean the EGR valve .
Wer schmiert, der fährt !
I drive a Clio B 1999 - 55KW - 198000km now (E7J Engine). And a Megane 1.5DCI 106PS Grand Tour from 2005 with 230000km. All two working great....
About the whole rebuild procedure you can find photos here:
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I have 1,5 78kw 278 000 km withouth problems. I use good quality oil and strictly observe the intervals. After starting, I don't immediately turn to maximum speed, but I let the engine warm up by driving calmly.
Sziasztok! Egyik henger nagyon "ketyeg". Porlasztócsúcs, vagy a turbó miatt füstől ennyire?
I had the same immediately when i bought the new megane 3. They said in service that one part was put from renault scenic and it was going into some vibrations. I`m not sure if to believe them. Did u fix your problem? What was the reason of this sound? Sorry for my english.
why? If the conrod is broken are you cleaning the egr?
How do you remove timing belt cover?
@deathrider23. I have to the megane 2 1.5dci 105hp. 192000km and that problem never got. French cars arent so bad anymore
Where is the timebelt cover? I think you skipt a few teeth, because debris on the timingbelt. There good engines if maintained well. Mine still runs over 540k.
Change the oil or the turbo if you have one
Can anybody tell me where to find the engine code for a Scenic 1.5 DCI of November 2004?
You are repair it ? what is make this problem ?
hola, yo tuve el mismo problema a los 110.000km y actualmente estoy reconstruyendo el motor yo mismo. El problema esta en que las tapetas de biela se degradan, dejando restos metálicos por todo el circuito de lubricación. Estas virutas, bloquean los lubricadores bajo piston y válvula de seguridad de la bomba de aceite dejándola completamente abierta, por lo que el circuito de lubricación pierde la presión necesaria para la lubricación de bielas y cigüeñal. Todo esto acelera el desgaste de las tapetas de biela y acaba por favorecer en desgaste entre bielas y muñequillas de cigüeñal. Los sombreretes del árbol de levas también sufren desgaste. No recomiendo reparar el coche por la cantidad de materiales que hay que sustituir y el excesivo coste de la reparación. He llamado varias veces a Renault y me ha ignorado en mi reclamación. Saben que hay muchísimos afectados por este problema pero parece no importarles nada. Yo jamás volveré a comprar Renault.
i agree mate,i had 5 times renault,and i would buy a renault in the future for the 6th time,you have to take care of your engine if the engine wants you take care of you, renault are a good makers of good histroy cars
Buy a subaru in the present and forget about all this
Pontosan ilyen hangja volt az enyémnek is, amikor megadta magát az egyik főtengelycsapágy...
300 feletti volt a generál...
engines knocking its life out and hes reving it like nothings going on. I think engine was OK, theres a problem between the seat and a steering wheel.
+MrWestomniac as usual the weakest link was the nut behind the wheel
Co to meleš???? Ten motor má jasnou závadu.
A pro ty co to čtou tak je to poškozené ojniční ložisko.
No... engine was bad already, rod knock; LOTS and LOTS of 1.5 dCI Renaults go bad like that; avoid
-----IF you are married to one, DO SPEND the money on OIL CHANGES,(that is VERY bad for the environment, but that is what the ** Greenphissers** dictate with their lunatic efficiency laws...looooong story...) or it will go bad on you too.
Mine is 2011k miles now engine sounds good.one injector down.and back to road..Renault is reliable
Szia adsz egy facebookot?
have you had a recall done on the fuel pump???????????????????????????
have Renault got a ots message on there system
No, I haven't. Didn't know about it and renault didn't get in touch with me.
I have similar car 1.5dci hatch 56 plate. Only done 81000 approx. Already had oil leak at 41000 turned out to be seal for crankshaft(changed timing belt as well)....luckily was under warranty. No problems from 41000 to 81000. Service light come on next day driving at 60mph all of a sudden it sounded like something got caught in engine loud grumbling noise pulled over oil pissing out and flicking up from belt area. No warning lights on dash but did notice fuel consumption down from usual 56+ to 55.6. Wasnt worried as had slow puncture. Now wont start. Great.
Check injection! Engine it is ok. That is a sound of injector broken and the smoke the same!
I would say big end bearings and piston number 3 worn.
there is worn crankshaft bearings there engine is knocking very loud!!! need engine rebuild, this is after changing oil and filter no at needed time!
This happens when you have 1.5 L engine and use it like a 3.0 v6 I have my own 1.5 dci and 360.000 km and no problems.
You must drive like my Grandma !
:))))))))))))
360,000 km and he drive like your grandma?
So for you, respecting the mechanics is driving like a grandmother?
Beautiful mentality. .....
We do not buy a 1.5 Dci to race.
thats right,this engine is made for sweet drive not for sport drive.My engine is 1,5 dci too with 316 000 km and he is still alive
sounds like a big end bearing issue
Hi, my turbo broke and a bit of metal went inside the piston and made a little scrach on the piston.
Now after i fixed the turbo it knocks on low rotation. what problems can i get from this? Or its just nois and everything else will work just ok ?
I suspect the big end shells wiĺl need replacing. Is the noise from the bottom end? When the turbo popped, did the engine keep running after turning off the ignition? If so, the car has effectively been running with no oil and will have wrecked the shells. The shells are cheap enough but not an easy fix.
tiing belt is not i the right position.that thts the knocking.early injection.check that.
Injectorproblem...change the one with
most returnflow
bojler eladó!
sond like it have gasoline in sted of diesel in the tank!
Please, i have similar problem with my Megane 2005 1.5 dci, Automatic Transmission, kilometer 157 XXX . I am very worried it will cost me so much money to repair it. Please how much does it cost to fix your car or is it better to change the engine completely? Any advice will be so appreciated, thanks
well, if you have exactly the same issue (broken conrod) you will need to pay about £1000 on parts (crankshaft, conrod, piston, rings, valves, etc) plus labour.
Na, ilyet hogy lehet " összehoszni"?
+cmdarb141 A 30ezres olajcserevel
this is problem crankshaft
Panewki Ci się cieciu obróciły!!
white smoke+loss of power=damaged cilinder head/cilinder head gasket. 20€ worth of parts. no biggie.
Nop , is from turbo white smoke and lose power
I hate these engines, so many different cars that have the 1.5 dci k9k engines, all the problem ones i've seen were k9k 732 and number one crank bearing wears out you'll be driving and when you turn a corner the oil warning screams at you, you stop, turn off, check oil level which is fine and start up and it will be ok, then you need to turn again lol
Not really bro. Crankshaft was dead, 2 valves and one conrod have been broken.
Now fixed :)
Was it worth the repair? How much did it cost?
have you still got it
C'est ce qui arrive quand le niveau d'huile n'est pas vérifié régulièrement, ça flingue les soupapes !
These 1.5dci engines are known with con rod bearing failure between 150,000~200,000km
what about the other DCI's
c'est quoi le souci? moi je trouve qu'elle tourne très bien pour une renault lool
😁
is damaged commonrail injector...sound and lot of smoke...
change injectors, clean EGR and it will be OK
bonsoir alors elle avait quoi ?
c'était un vilebrequin
we have 1.5 dci with turbo failure
Sounds like tractor
Duh its a diesel
iyi dayanmış yine 200 bin km
tienes motores seminuevos de desguace por 500€,.... o menos
IT SOUNDS LIKE BROKEN VALVES, AND OAC
big end bearings and turbo ;) if you fix yourself would be not so bad ,probably under 1000 euro.
вкладыши
Zaribo rodjo
Stroke gasket
Most people don't get repair cost for French cars are extremely affordable
If you have to rebuild Mercedes ,BMW or Audi Engines you would have to sell your house in order to get the money
You must be 60 years old and you are relating to how Renault built cars in the past
.
I have a Renault laguna 1.5 dci and the car is one of the smartest cars ever
Dashboard warns to start the car if you are listening to radio for along time
To prevent battery discharge , dasboard tells you when you need to replace card battery
.
My key card went to the washing machine for 3 hours
Car still recognised the card key like nothing happened
.
Renault made improvements
I know this sound. Unfortunately, it cost me a whole lot of money. Megane is my worst car so far. Problem after problem. One thing is fixed and few days or weeks after completely different part gets fucked up. My advice- don't EVER but this car. Unless you've got to much money.
+Dori1703 As we say in France "Renault, a new strange noise every day!"
+Adrien Aubert Exactly. And unpleasant suprises as well.
+Dori1703 That's why I sold mine before having costly problems :-D
+Adrien Aubert All of my problems appeared a week after I bought this piece of crap. And every time I fix another part I'm like "No. I can't sell it. I've put so much money in it. It cannot broke again." And my car is like "Huh. Wanna bet? Challenge accepted". But even my patience has its limits. Megane ( alias mean bitch) has to go. And I will NOT buy a Renault ever again. Even of someone would like to give me a Brand New Renault for free.
+Dori1703 Hahaha, I laughed so much! I can't say that I had a lot of problems with my Clio3 but only strange noises that I don't like, strong vibrations and a smoky exhaust gas...
Renault has great cars now, but the experience with this brand is that I don't think I'm gonna buy an other one!
An other one "Renault, nothing can stop it, not even the brakes" but we are used to this one for Renault tractors ;-)
Warranty direct ,deals with all car repairs by insuring vehicle parts and repairs
.
For this reason their car reliability index unlike yours , is not created from peoples imagination, is created from a Insurance database.
You don't have a clue how cars are made in this days or you would realise things like Engine start , brakes , wipers , estability control , are made by Company called Bosh which builds the same components to BMW , my satnav was built by Tom Tom , Renault builds very little.
@niceboy you're confusing toys with piss poor reliability.
Timing belt change wrong !!!!
Not really, my friend. Just read the thread and you will see it was a broken con rod which killed 2 valves and the crankshaft. I replaced the half of the engine that you can see from my other video (link above).
Bugajauzsi I thought it was just the head gasket. What did you do to that engine to do that much damage in only 200tkm? These things go for 400tkm without an overhaul. :/
Veniessubdentem
I got the car like this. See the link above and you will understand what was the problem if you are already lazy to read the thread through. cylinder head and gasket is a wrong guess.
Spun bearings
Enjektör
distribution mal calée
Plutôt sois injecteur
Ou bielle
Wow what a Junker!
One of the most horrid engines ever made. It's likely the timing belt has slipped. Your looking at least a couple of valves and probably a replacement piston to fix this. I've rebuilt my own engine three times due to various disasters this engine is prone to suffer from. Basically, if you can't do the work yourself it's time for a new car, the labour will be mega bucks (second hand engines are a rip off too). Getting the sump off to change the piston is a nightmare (only car I've ever had that the valves break the piston(s) in a belt failure). Subframe has to come off (miracle if the captive nuts are still captive), it is possible without removing the subframe and can be done by freeing the driveshafts and jacking the engine high but is extremely tricky. The timing tools are a must, even though I don't normally subscribe to them with other cars I've worked on. Also, it's important to note that the crank pulley is not keyed and has to be torqued very high to stop it self-destructing the engine for a second time! The top end is straight forward enough to put back together, apart from the cam pulley which has probably snapped its key when the belt slipped. After all that effort and you're back on the road it will only be a matter of time until the turbo pops and wrecks your engine again. Expect to replace the wiring loom at some point along with the injectors and eventually the fuel pump which will involve ridiculous amounts of effort cleaning the fuel system before re-fitment. All things considered, it's time to light a match and never look back! ;) Good luck!
Richard Neill thi's is the one of the most economical engines as have seen,...
So if you drive 1.5 DCI like 3.8 race car,... then
TRe' CooL Yes, it's certainly economical when it works. Just wait for your first repair bill, unless you know how to repair it yourself, it's a false economy! All car's are great when they work. There is literally no-one with this engine who bought it for the performance, so it's hardly likely to have been ragged, the common faults these engines have cost in the thousands to fix, that's not reliable! Doesn't affect me, I can fix them but would never recommend this to anyone who can't do the work themselves.
hmm, wel, are you saying even for the ph 2 megane 2 engines?
TRe' CooL No, I know nothing of that engine. Specifically the 1.5 dci I'm talking about. I have a 1.2 8v petrol as well, which is a nice, reliable little engine (maybe a bit sluggish but was never designed to be fast). I have nothing in particular against Renault, I have two Clios which I got for peanuts because they were going to be scrapped because of the garage bills. I'm merely warning people about the costs and effort involved if these engines go wrong. As said, when it works it's great. When it doesn't, it's going to cost mega bucks!
ye, ye, just saying, because from 2002(3) - 2005 there were thisi 82 and 101 HP engines, and after 2006, 86 and 106 HP engines, and I think they reworked them,.. but on this pic it's the 106 hp one
Coussinets de bielles HS !!!!!
Dude sorry to say this you dont know anything about car reliability
The information bellow is from ( Warranty Direct )
Which covers Car repairs by insuring them
this is the 10 Less Reliable cars in The U.K According with (Warranty Direct)
.
1 AUDI RS6
2 BMW M5
3 Mercedes-Benz V-Class
4 Porsche 911 996
5 Mercedes-Benz CL
6 Mercedes-Benz SL
7 Bentley Continental GT
8 Audi Q7
9 Audi A6 Allroad
10 Mercedes-Benz R-Class
Faulty injector
la merde !
Renault 1.5dci 1.4mpi 1.6mpi most last long engines i ever heared about. these engine s can run hundreds of thousands of km without a problem with oil changed at time
its not a good engine
Knackered injector
Spot on cocker
piston shot the head :-D. i thing its second piston :-D
3. from timing :)
I think that's a bad bearing on the crankshaft.
Quality by renault
The worst engine built ever
Fucking dci,sheet from engine!!!!!
I prefer my Volvo D5252T / Audi VW AEL etc 2.5 TDI 140 ... from a6 c4 vw t4 volvo 850 volvo v70 volvo s80 ...
Shit
what did you learn from this? Never, NEVER buy a french car ;)
These cars r junk
Ya, this is a shit model of car and engine. The problem may have been bad maintenance at some point but not the cause of all the problems. The engine alone was bad enough and then the electrics made the whole experience worse. I learned my lesson with a Renault. The thing is their engines are in many other vehicles too - Dacia, Suzuki, Nissan, Infiniti and even the A Class, B Class and CLA Class Mercedes have the dirty fucker 1.5 dci. AVOID. The real disappointment for me was that the Megane I had was super comfortable and great to drive and great handling....but only if it started.