Should You Buy an RTX 4070 Ti Super or RX 7900 XT?
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- If you have $800 to spend on a new GPU should you buy an RTX 4070 Ti Super or RX 7900 XT? In this video, the next in our "Ultimate PC Component Fighting Championship" battle series, we are going to find out. Our UpcFC series is focused on helping you make the tough choices when building your dream PC. In this series we are going to help you make the right choice by pitting two components against each other in the PC octagon to see who wins. For this video our focus will be on Asus TUF Gaming OC Edition model GPU’s, with the Radeon RX 7900 XT in the red corner taking on the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super in the blue corner.
Remember, it's not rocket science, it's Lego … my goal is to help you make the right component choices and put them together the right way, every time.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:24 Video Focus (4070 Ti Super vs 7900 XT)
00:49 GPU Size Comparison (Asus TUF Gaming Cooler)
02:07 Test Setup & Methodology
03:58 Benchmarks featuring Bruce Buffer
06:57 Who Wins & Why?
09:06 Wrap-Up
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Great video as always
Thanks for watching!
The Silent Star of the show is the R7 7800X3D allowing both cards to stretch their legs and give 100% of performance.
Wait until you see my next video … testing the 7800X3D against a 14700k … with an RTX 4090 … it’s truly impressive what that chip can do 😉
@@blackbirdpctech I watched someone else that did that, yeah I bought the AMD 7 7800X3D after that, it’s an amazing CPU.
Great benchmarks! I like the fact that you take into account a larger variety of pros and cons for both sides ( like power efficiency and cost and not only focusing on raw performance)
Thank you, really appreciate the feedback.
nice video and review, i have also used both cards and wanted to point something.
last year near release i got the 7900 xt. i am not the type of guy who will mess with oc or uv too much, but i had a version of a card that had issue withe thermals and more specifically hotspot tempratures.
It was not throttling, yet i had a delta difference of over 30 degrees celcius which resulted into vey loud fans since for what i ve noticed for amd cards fans take into consideration hotspot temperature as a factor.
what i am trying to say is that i had two choices. either i i would run the card with fan limit resulting making it even hotter, or undervolt it and set fan limit aswell.
in fact eventually i switched off the factory oc bios just to keep my accoustics sanity.
I am not here to shit on amd or xfx, but yet again the issue i went against if u make a little research is something common especially for early production cards, which makes me to believe that many 7900 xt's are failed 7900xtx projects and not just downgraded chips..
On the other hand that card was absolute monster, i never needed to use even once fsr for what i play even with maximum settings at 1440p.
My experience with 4070tis is far diffferent. i got msi gaming x slim, it is extremely quiet no matter what with factory clocks over 2800mhz if i recall correctly, with very good temperatures on hotspot and junction, while the overall temperatures are like 63 max...
also regarding the vbios issue, i cant say since i installed the latest version with like 2 clicks when i installed the card, i never messed with voltages, fans or clocks and i dont even care.
both my choices were a little bit of gamble since there was limmited information for me at that times but in my humble opinion i had a very better experience with this 4070tis model because of
1)noise levels from unbarable to irrelevant 2)power consumption and similar perfomance from 350w to 200`ish 3) better ray trace perfomance 4)vsr 5)better support for hdr 6)dlss
while i lost,
1)minimal rasterization perfomance 2) 4gb vram 3)fsr3 from adrenaline software for any game 4)antilag+
not an nvidia fanboy on the contrast since ive seen the potentiall of 7900xt and the features of the vast superior adrenaline software all i got to say is be carefull of which version of the card you will pick. dont compromise to that, you may regret that later like i did. you dont have to get rog strix, aorus master or whatever premium, but stay away from unreliable products and avoid or atleast products at their release especially for amd, since we've seen cases lately with hardware issues.
the only negative experiences ive had so far with the 4070 is that for the first drivers i could not use frame generation and also had some severe drivers issues even with ddu clean install and reset, but these problems thankfully are long gone now, with newer drivers.
Genuinely great video. I really like how you used 2 cards with the same cooler design and picked a game that favors each company with ray-tracing. IMO it really depends on the price. At $650 or $700 it’s pretty good value but I’ll probably wait until next gen.
I think we are not too far away from next gen cards so that makes sense. Appreciate your comment and thanks for watching!
4:02 -- As soon as I saw this I instantly liked and sub'd. GREAT! Creativity will make your channel explode
Thank you, and welcome to the Blackbird PC Tech community!
Yeah I got my RX 7900 XT on February 14th 2024 for $699.99 delivered. And right now the RTX 4070 TI super is still going for $820. Big big difference.
Great price!
Really tough choice but another great video!
Thanks for watching!
I looked at both of these cards last month as i needed a GPU since I had to RMA my previous card, a 3080. I got the XFX 7900 xt for $709 on March 10th. The $125+ savings over the 4070ti super seemed like a no brainer. The card has been awesome. It runs so cool with almost no fan speed.
At that price difference I agree, great value.
I've been building PCs since 1988 (Ah, my old 286-16!) and your reference to Lego is spot-on. When building a PC, all that one has to remember is that "What fits together goes together." because that's all there really is to it, just like Lego! If something doesn't fit, it doesn't go there. If it does fit, it does go there.
Like you say, "It's not aeronautical engineering!" (or something to that effect). 😉🤣
I had a 286-16 too ... but my first PC was an Amstrad 8086 with CGA graphics ... you haven't gamed until you've gamed in 4 colors. I remember when I discovered an EGA switch on the back of the computer and it increased the color spectrum to 16 colors ... the PC wasn't fast enough to play games that way but damn was that an upgrade.
Great comparison , 6800xt v 7900 GRE would be good.
Definitely planning to test the 7900 GRE soon … it’s an interesting card. Thanks for watching!
you deserve a lot more views and subs lol
Thank you!
Hey Matt, I just had a few thoughts that perhaps you would find to be of value.
My first thought is that Cyberpunk's RT is seemingly designed to specifically cripple Radeons so maybe one run with RT on and on with RT off would be in order.
My second thought is that you should abandon upscaling and/or frame generation because they don't give an accurate description of what the card is capable of on its own and there are other caveats besides that involved. Because of the different technologies involved, it hampers your efforts to provide an "apples to apples" comparison. There's nothing wrong with having it, I just believe that it should compliment a standard run without it instead of having it as your principal method for comparison.
My third thought is that you should take the amount of VRAM that a card has into account when evaluating its value. It has long been demonstrated that when it comes to a card's longevity, VRAM is life. I was made painfully aware of this years ago when I was first forced to run my R9 Fury at 1080p. Even though it had incredibly fast HBM (on a 4096-bit bus), it only had 4GB of it and that was insufficient. My only comfort was the fact that I managed to buy it for less than half the price of an RX 580 during he first mining craze of 2017 even though it's a faster card overall.
Lately, people who bought an RTX 3080 have been having to face the fact that 10GB is not enough to run modern games at 1440p Ultra even though the card has the graphical horsepower to handle it. Its paltry 10GB VRAM buffer just hamstrings that card with stuttering and unloaded textures. It's a very real and important metric when buying a video card these days.
I advise you to not just take my word on any of this because I'm not the "Trust me, bro!" type. I only seek to bring this to your attention and I would encourage you to look around and judge for yourself if my words have merit.
This was a great video Matt and I look forward to seeing more from you. Cheers!
For RT I specifically want a few games in my benchmark suite that use RT well, so I settled on Cyberpunk and Avatar ... one game favors Nvidia (with DLSS) while the other favors AMD (with FSR). For frame gen I have recently been testing both of those games with it on and off ... I might only show it with it off moving forward. Good point about VRAM ... it's definitely a worthwhile consideration. There are obviously examples of where Nvidia didn't use enough but there are always examples of where AMD added more than makes sense ... by the time games would need that much VRAM the card would be somewhat useless. Regardless I should mention it in my GPU reviews moving forward as a consideration, especially when it's borderline acceptable. Thanks for the feedback and being a valuable part of the Blackbird PC Tech community, I really appreciate it.
The extra 100+ dollars I spent on the 4070 Ti Super allowed me to save over 100 dollars on a new 1440p screen. DLDSR on Nvidia GPUs enables me to play at 1600p/1800p while using a 1200p screen. DLSS is something most Nvidia users will enjoy, just like FSR for AMD users, and it is very important for benchmarks. If a game has it available, I bet most people will use it (especially for story games).
What if you have a Mid case (smallish) and want to keep the card for a long time?
Then best to consider other variants of these cards that have a smaller footprint. This 4070 Ti model is smaller than the 7900 XT but it’s still a large card.
Maybe you should turn on resizable bar next time. I know it doesn’t seem fair because Nvidia has to green light a game in order for it to be enabled and that gives the 7900xt a sure fire advantage, also would narrow the cyberpunk margins drastically, but that is all on Nvidia and the AMD card shouldn’t be held back due to their restrictions on their hardware.
Resizable bar was on, as specified in the legend on each chart located in the top left corner. Not sure why you think resizable bar (or Smart Access Memory as it’s called for AMD) would narrow the gap in a game that only allows frame gen for DLSS.
great video. I actually had the hardest time deciding the 7800xt or the 4070 back in late September/ early October and I decided to get the 7800xt. It performed on par if not better than the 4070 on raw performance and was $100 cheaper and since I don't care for Ray tracing (most gamers don't I believe) the 7800xt became clearer to me to buy. FSR 3 is also really good (not as good as DLSS 3) but still great.
I don't care nor have a Favorite brand at this point tbh. I care for what is the best band for buck that will run my games how i want it and I'm glad I don't regret buying the 7800xt.
Now I will Admit though, if the 4070 TI super came out sooner (and slightly cheaper at maybe $700) I would have bought that card instead but I think the 7900xt is the better choice between those 2 cards.
Thanks ... the only reason Nvidia released the Super series was to better compete with AMD. This is why competition is important and why we need strong options from AMD and hopefully Intel moving forward ... otherwise Nvidia will keep increasing prices.
The 7900 XT has been available for 700-729 for a while now.........
The objective was to compare two cards with the same cooler to try to eliminate another source of bias from the review … I haven’t seen others do that. Asus always places a premium on their cards, so if you can find a TUF Gaming model for less than what I showed in the video then please let me know. Thanks for watching!
@@blackbirdpctech Ahh, good point, was about to comment on this as well lol. I got a brand new sealed reference RX 7900 XT on eBay for $720 black Friday last year.
@@HiddenAdept I have a reference 7900 xtx and I think it’s one of the nicest looking coolers of this entire generation.
I have found my 7900XT to be fantastic at 1440p in every single game I have played on it. Significantly less expensive and basically the same performance is going to make Nvidia a tough sell in this case.
Agreed, since making this video the 7900XT has dropped in price which makes it much better value.
Thanks for the great review, I think 7900 xt has a little more raw power, I’m leaning a little more towards it but diss is much better than fsr, personally I don’t care about ray tracing. So is it a safer bet to the nvidia for me in the long run?
Both Nvidia and AMD are committed to making gaming GPU’s, so I wouldn’t worry about getting either card. It simply comes down to what is most important for you. You can get a better deal on AMD cards at the moment but Nvidia has an advantage with some of their features.
@@blackbirdpctech Thank you for your quick reply! Currently both cards in my country costs around 750$
At the same price I would likely get the 4070 Ti Super, but it really comes down to preference and card aesthetics … get the card that appeals to you the most.
@@blackbirdpctech Thank you, looking forward to your content! Stay positive and true to your honest reviews no matter what the fanboys are saying... It's rare nowadays to find a decent unbiased youtube channel...
Thank you
ive got an rx6800 that really holds up for 1440p gaming
although these cards are basically the same with a few fitures the difference that pulls me more towards nvidia is the power efficency and more driver stability, someone told me that they had trouble with vr which i hope to start playing when i get a pc and if im gonna have trouble then i would rather pay the extra few quid for a more efficient and stable card, nvidia isnt perfect but for what i want its more enticing
It’s definitely more power efficient, there is absolutely no argument about it … you will be happy with your purchase, it’s a great card!
Dude im telling you the driver stability thing is a bunch of BS, AMD's drivers are fine, they had a bad release a few months back with 24.1.1 but the ones following have been better than ever.
i seen aot of people complaining about Amd drivers is that still an issue ?
Not in my experience with 7000 series cards. I’ve tested them extensively and I’ve only experienced one issue, which is an inability to run the COD MW3 in-game benchmark, but that happened after a major COD update, so I think it’s a game engine quirk. I would actually argue that the Adrenalin software is significantly better than what Nvidia currently offers, although they are developing a new app.
@@blackbirdpctechfrom a competitive cod player I can say that the 7900XT simply has too many issues on MW3, the game already has enough problems by itself but almost everytime after an adrenaline update or a cod update the game has terrible frame drops every couple of seconds, seen tons of people with the same issues but most can bypass these issues with all the adrenaline options to mask it, only issue is competitive players don’t enable these because they add input delay and at that level you can feel any kind of input delay or slight frame drop. My 3060 runs the game smooth as butter besides pulling 200 less FPS, maybe the next cod will respond better with AMD drivers.
Great video as always. Another factor to add in, at least in the states is, you can find the 900xt for $700 as March 2024, while the 70 ti super is still $800. I know you were looking at the same make and model, but performance is generally the same, as you know lol. To me, that the 900xt the clear win. Also, I discovered you because the PC gaming & building enthusiasts group. I stay pretty active on there.
I agree, these cards are so closely matched in performance that any price reduction will make that card a winner in terms of value. I like that Facebook group … the reason I made my bottleneck video is because I saw that question at least 10 times in the span of 2 weeks … it’s a great feeder for content ideas. Thanks for watching and being part of the BPT community.
I recently bought rx 7600 and few days after the XT version released , I'm so sad about it , but I still manage to play most games with little to no problems 😅
The good news is the XT doesn’t really increase performance on the vast majority of games.
@@blackbirdpctech Well I got 5800x3d combined with 120 se phantom spirit air cooler so it barely goes above 50 degrees and its really smooth the performance , for now at least , I know for sure that I will have to change the gpu in a year or maybe two if I want to play new titles , specially triple AAA ones 😁
@@BruceUZULULgreat cpu!
My name is Matt and my qualifications are a career that has literally nothing to do with gaming! I trust you completely based on that alone.
It’s tough to provide your full qualifications in a few second intro, that’s why I made an origin story video. 20+ years building PC’s, leading AI for some of the worlds largest and most advanced companies, working closely with Nvidia before they were popular, and my extensive engineering background certainly give me credibility in this space. Trust takes time to build but I think my qualifications give me an advantage over most other tech RUclipsrs that have a non-technical background in something like retail. Thanks for your comment.
@@blackbirdpctechNow those are qualifications that make me want to listen to what you have to say and I can appreciate! I definitely think it makes more sense to lead with I have been building PC’s for 20 years. You’ve seen the coming and going of so much technology just based on that! I don’t for a moment doubt that you’re intelligent or not qualified, just don’t feel like leading with that one makes me want to listen to why one graphics cards is better than the other. Or in this case the same!
That’s great feedback … will figure out how to switch it up moving forward 😉
The only reason to buy an Nvidia GPU at this time is if Ray Tracing and DLSS are important to you as the AMD GPU’s hold the edge on sheer restoration per dollar.
To me they are very important to me so I’m deciding between the 4070 Ti Super or the 4080 Super for the extra $200 that also gives you 20% boost in performance.
I know when it comes time to sale one the 4080 Super will be easier to get back more of what I payed then the less popular 4070 Ti Super so I’m kind of leaning towards just paying the extra $200 to buy the 4080 Super.
Good news for me I’m just waiting for Capital One Shopping to send me a 20% back at Walmart that I will combine with my Capital One Walmart credit card that has a 5% cash back as well for a combined total 25% off.
This will put the cost of the 4080 Super for me at only $750 that is $50 less then the 4070 Ti Super and only $50 more then a 3080 originally costed.
How about that for value?
One more thing I wanna point out to everybody who’s on the fence between AMD and Nvidia is the power use of the AMD’s or substantially higher so overtime will be burning more electricity, so that savings you say the front will get eaten away. This is why I recommend Nvidia.
That’s a great deal … the 4080 Super is an excellent card from this generation.
I have an ultrawide 3440 resoloution that is 240hz i wanna get atleast 200 on low setting with games like warzone…..idk wich card to get
For an ultrawide resolution (3440x1440) you have a total pixel count of 4,953,600 pixels, which is ~34% higher than 1440p (2560x1440) which has a total pixel count of 3,686,400 pixels and ~40% lower than 4K (3840x2160) which has a total pixel count of 8,294,400. This will allow you to interpolate between the data points provided in the charts, so for COD: MW3 for your resolution the 7900XT should generate an average FPS of ~167.7. For COD AMD cards perform much better than Nvidia cards, so if you play that game a lot then that's something to consider.
@@blackbirdpctech thanks for the response i just hear about there weird drivers and stuff so i gotta look into it
@@suavelifestyle9094 it's always a good idea to do your own research but based on my experience the AMD drivers are solid, so it's not something I would worry too much about. I would look at options from both AMD and Nvidia and go with the one that best meets your needs in terms of price and performance.
@@blackbirdpctech thanks man!!!
I just got an 7900 XT for $698 which was $140 cheaper than the cheapest 4070ti super. Now there is a huge cost to performance ratio.
Agreed … AMD has started to be more aggressive on price which is great for consumers!
i don t understand how i have watched countless of videos where 7900xt mops the floor with the 4070 ti super(10-15% perf difference) in rasterization and in your video 7900xt gets defeated by 4070 ti super
The benchmarks that I show include a few games with ray tracing turned on in the default game settings (Cyberpunk 2077, F1 2023, Avatar), so this isn't simply a rasterization comparison. That said, my test data shows the two cards very evenly matched, it doesn't show the 7900XT getting defeated by the 4070 Ti Super, as I explain in the video. There are a lot of online reviewers that have no idea what they are doing ... social media is great but there is no standard or governing body, so unfortunately there is a lot of misinformation out there and some reviewers like to cater to a specific audience with biased "data". I don't do that.
Jesus that motherbaord is 500eur where i live...
Yeah, motherboard prices have gotten out-of-control ... the higher-end models really don't add a lot for the extra cost.
4090 vs 7900XTX next?
I was thinking about doing that … but I need to add something different… perhaps I do the top two models (sapphire nitro vs Asus strix) but with max overclocks to make it interesting … could show default and OC data
@@blackbirdpctech Yes, that sounds like a great idea. Definitely show both default and OC data please.
Agreed … max OC data is fun to generate but it’s very silicon dependent, that’s why it’s important to show default values too … I am however curious how far I can push both cards on air.
it wouldn't even come close to a fair battle, though. Everyone knows the 4090 absolutely f*cks everything.
@@HDJess I think the 7900XTX might beat the 4090 in some games or at least come close for half the price.
Me in Asia where an rtx 4070 non ti non super costs the same if not more than an rx 7900 xt
That’s not good … pricing for Nvidia products in the Asia pacific area is definitely not good.
@@blackbirdpctech less than half of the stores even sell amd gpus and many of the "msrp" models are out of stock. I did end up getting a 7800xt reference card for 60 bucks less than the other models
@@tackyinbention6248nice pickup … I actually really like the look of the reference cards
@@blackbirdpctech yea the amd reference cards have an amazing back and side vent look (aka the side I see the most)
@@blackbirdpctech oh yeah here in my country 4070ti super is $937 and 7900xt is $855...
Keep your RT. Not all games will go with team green. In the end game makers will use both. I would opt for the 20 gig as games have required more and more every year. Try using green for nvidia and red for amd because not everyone that watches is a rocket scientist.
Rasterization creates polygons to represent 3D images ... for graphics with rasterization to get better, you need to use more and more polygons. Ray tracing is simply a better approach because it represents what happens in the real 3D world. Unfortunately GPUs today don't have enough horsepower to do full path tracing, so Nvidia and AMD come up with tricks to implement Ray Tracing on our current hardware. That said, it is the future and AMD is fully embracing it as well. I'm not sure how or why that would be offensive to anyone. And I use blue and red because I would prefer not to pay Bruce Buffer to shoot another video simply to say green instead of blue, even though that would be ideal. Most people, regardless of their technical background, don't have trouble following simple colors.
I chose the RTX 4070 TI super because of the recommended power requirements.
Sure the 7900 XT was cheaper, but buying a power supply brought the price back up to parity. Since I care about upscaling, buying the nVidia card made more sence for my use case.
The 4070 Ti Super is a much better card when compared with the original 4070 Ti … great choice.
My wallet and my 1080ti still wins.
Fsr 3 isopen source
That’s true however Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora has clearly been sponsored by AMD because they only allow frame gen with FSR3 and not DLSS. Nvidia did the exact same thing with Cyberpunk 2077. I really don’t like it when companies block competitor features in games to get an advantage … it’s not good for gamers.
In my country, the RX 7900 XT costs $820, RTX 4070ti sells for $760. Which one do you think is a better value?
Is that the 4070 Ti or 4070 Ti Super?
@@blackbirdpctechINNO3D GeForce RTX 4070Ti X3 $760 // PowerColor Hellhound RX 7900 XT $820
What resolution do you play games at? At those prices I would probably get the 4070 Ti … my only concern is the 12GB of vram relative to the 20GB for the 7900 XT … if you plan to keep this card for a while then the 7900 xt would be a safer bet.
@@blackbirdpctech I just bought a DellG2724D 2k 165hz. 😉
for gaming only ? 7900xt, much vram and cheaper.
for gaming and work ? ofcourse 4070ti.
I generally agree however I would argue that you should simply get whichever one is cheaper. The extra VRAM isn't useful if your games don't use it and both cards have AV1 encoding, so the advantage that Nvidia used to have has dissipated. If you have a specific use case that heavily favors one card over the other (game or application) then of course get the card that works best. Thanks for watching!
699 card vs an 849 card
Not the cards that I tested … feel free to share where a TUF Gaming 7900 XT can be purchased for $699.
@@blackbirdpctech in the US there might be no difference but here in eu the 7900xt is about €100 cheaper
@@thereaperforce2159you are not wrong, even in the US there are variants that are priced cheaper however Asus always puts a premium on their cards … not sure if it’s really worth it.
Clearly it is not worth it, youtubers like TechYesCity have now tested the Asrock 7900XT phantom gaming and it has better temperatures and performance than the Asus one and can be purchased for 700 USD. That is why you cannot draw a generalized conclusion from this comparison, it is the specific case of the brand you chose and nothing else, especially there being better 7900XT for 700 USD. Anyway good video.
@@blackbirdpctech
Im starting to find that more and more with Asus, the premium you pay for their products tends not to be worth it. I like TechYesCity … nice guy.
7900 xt gets more performance than the 4070 ti super without ray tracing in cyberpunk.
And you can use Frame Generation with the 7900 xt with the mod in it. Works very well, also coming officially soon to cyber punk.
yes Nvidia is better at that title, but it's important to know that wasn't the whole picture :)
you can do ray tracing at 1440p with it, and FSR and with FG mod you're at 100+.
I’m sure it would but at the same time Avatar doesn’t allow DLSS frame gen, so they somewhat balance each other out. I could also just run both games without frame gen, which I might do moving forward. Thanks for your comment.
@@blackbirdpctech yeah it's a shit show in the GPU world. Competing companies limiting the overall stablity, and functionality of things so they can line their already endless pockets, at our expense of course.
You didn't mention if you overclocked the memory on the 7900 xt.
That's what gives you most of your performance, and you need to undervolt to overclock the 7900 xt.
Raising the core alone does nearly nothing.
In the video I explained that I selected the "OC Mode" in GPU Tweak III for both cards to avoid any issue with silicon lottery, given that these settings should run stable on virtually all Asus TUF Gaming OC Edition 7900 XT and 4070 Ti Super GPU’s. The "OC Mode" is a very mild overclock that simply increases the power available and provide a small boost to core frequency. I highly overclocked my Sapphire Nitro 7900 XTX in my latest video, so I am aware of the benefit to undervolting the 7000 series cards ... it's pretty impressive. Thanks for watching.
@@blackbirdpctech Indeed they do overclock well. I have a 7900 xt, and a 4070 ti super. But honestly the 7900 xt is so much better.
4070 ti super cards have an issue with micro sutters, and bad frame times. and lower 1%.
This is a known issue too, and can easily be seen and felt. pop that 7900 xt in there and it's so buttery smooth!!
@@TheRandomDude-qy1ev ive never had any issues with microstutters on my ti super and i oc it to 2955mhz (in some games its at 3000mhz) and oc my memory to 12200 mhz.
@@michagysin3082 My card was faulty. I got it replaced and is running fine.
I am team red 100% and have been for a long time. When Nvidia forgot who built their company and started to shyt on us, I jumped ship and I'm not looking back.
I hope AMD appreciates the support that they have, because they have some super dedicated fans. I think they are doing exceptionally well with their CPU's ... I hope that they come back strong with the 9000 series of GPU's.
4070 TI does not have a humble auto OC applied. That 21000mhz memory lol. That's deff a manual overclock friend.
7900xt is hurting if you didnt give it ah manual tune to memory as well.
I don't think you understand what is being shown in GPU Tweak III ... for the 4070 Ti Super it shows the effective memory clock of 21 Gbps which aligns with the base memory clock of 1,313 MHz ... these are default memory settings for this card (not sure why Asus shows it this way). As explained in the video I selected the "OC Mode" in GPU Tweak for both cards, which is a very mild overclock.
the problem is connectors. I just dont trust Nvidia anymore. Same type of flimsy connector as on 4080 and 90 Under high voltage load ? Yeah... no thank you
It really does seem like they should have spent more time developing it before integrating into the 4000 series, that said it only appears to be an issue with high power draws on the 4090, but I understand why you would be concerned.
Not sure why you ran cyberpunk with ultra RT settings but did not with any other title. That is screwing results. If you run RT on one then you run it on all that support it. Do not like the testing, sorry, but I will pass on this channel.
I explain my testing methodology in my videos and why it's superior to other channels. I use preset game settings so that the results can be replicated easily. For some titles, such as Cyberpunk and Avatar, this means RT is on by default. There are only two titles where I use frame gen, one is in Cyberpunk which favors Nvidia and one is in Avatar which favors AMD. So no, it's not favoring one card over the other since each title balances the other. I think it's important to test in a way that reflects real world behavior, not biased all RT that would favor Nvidia or all rasterization that would favor AMD. If you want to see biased results then this channel is definitely not for you and there are plenty of pro AMD and pro Nvidia channels out there to choose from.
Biast test, a proper overclock is undervolting AMD cards. That's where you get most gains
How exactly was this test biased? If I undervolted the 7900 XT and didn’t overclock the 4070 Ti properly then that would be biased. The reason I don’t test cards with max overclocks or undervolts is because that performance depends heavily on silicon quality, as explained in my videos. I understand that you may really want to see a different result, but that doesn’t make the data invalid.
@blackbirdpctech the undervolt is where amd cards get their gains. Not overclocking them. Where Nvidia cards are the other way around. Overclocking them both is a disadvantage to amd cards.
Undervolting simply allows the gpu to boost or "overclock" higher and longer. That is why you get a performance gain and why the gain is heavily silicon quality dependent. The auto OC’s that I used in this video are very small, helped the performance of both cards and are not silicon dependent (so everyone can use them). To truly optimize an AMD gpu you should provide a manual OC and undervolt.
Fake test
How is it a fake test?
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I get 98 FPS in Tomb Raider 4K resolution with my 7800 XT Nitro+ graphics card. CPU: Ryzen 7600
@MahmutTuncer-bh2bf hopefully you realize that your data point is meaningless without specifying what game settings you are using
No ray traycing benchmarks. Thats Bad.
That's not true. Cyberpunk 2077, F1 2023 and Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora all have ray tracing turned on as part of the in-game settings that I used, as denoted on the benchmark charts.