Is The 4060 That Bad? - RX 7600 vs RTX 4060

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  • @NemusDark
    @NemusDark 3 месяца назад +234

    Pretty mindful of you to include electricity costs I appreciate that!

    • @zachify1941
      @zachify1941 2 месяца назад +1

      i know bro is not from ZTT discord

    • @plsbanhackers9031
      @plsbanhackers9031 2 месяца назад +4

      It’s only a few $ per year I’m guessing (depending on how much electricity costs in your area), would not see this as a hard advantage unless you’re running your gpu hard over the course of several years to cover the $30ish price difference vs the amd gpu.

  • @geo_beans
    @geo_beans 3 месяца назад +110

    Drivers just came out for AMD cards, and they are performing much better on Helldiver's 2 now

    • @Godly_Nose
      @Godly_Nose Месяц назад +1

      I was wondering why these beefy cards were doing so bad my little rx 6500 xt(4gb) runs it on medium at 60fps.

    • @bababooey1239
      @bababooey1239 Месяц назад

      @@Godly_Nose bro 4gb its so small, why didnt you just buy a 1080 ti for cheaper??

    • @whohan779
      @whohan779 5 часов назад

      @@bababooey1239 An RX 6500 XT is usually

  • @RobSchwabRandom
    @RobSchwabRandom 3 месяца назад +9

    I was excited last episode; I was beginning to think your son was going to be the shows next sidekick, but I guess it was just a guest appearance. Here's hoping that he eventually comes back, I like the chill vibes.

  • @Makkiebobo730
    @Makkiebobo730 3 месяца назад +378

    4060 is good, just overpriced
    Edit:removed insanely, happy now

    • @Sol4rOnYt
      @Sol4rOnYt 3 месяца назад +5

      yeah exactly

    • @M1szS
      @M1szS 3 месяца назад +47

      and not enough vram

    • @Makkiebobo730
      @Makkiebobo730 3 месяца назад +12

      @@M1szS also true

    • @clinged2711
      @clinged2711 3 месяца назад +18

      not insanely overpriced when compared to the competition, considering the features it has too

    • @a-alex-p7033
      @a-alex-p7033 3 месяца назад +4

      @@M1szS Wish it was atleast 12GB or even 10GB. But also we are talking about 250 dollar GPUs so I think 8GB is the most they will give us because first of all they are greedy but also they want to make back all the millions that went into designing those chips, producing and marketing them. Obviously they already subsidise the costs with higher end cards but they should do it harder but then other boardpartners(MSI, ASUS, ETC) need to also lower their prices but they already are not really profiting that much from their GPUs so they may not want to make those cards and then all the ''burden'' would be on Nvidia/AMD to make those Budget GPUs from which they are not profiting that much. Its like a double-edged sword.

  • @vladimirnovakovic3495
    @vladimirnovakovic3495 3 месяца назад +5

    Great realistic showdown. Thanks a lot!

  • @GK_Squid
    @GK_Squid 3 месяца назад +9

    Was the helldivers 2 test done the last couple of days? Amd launched driver 24.4.1 recently and it was supposed to inprove performance

  • @napstericious
    @napstericious 3 месяца назад +14

    Hey Brett, AMD released new driver for RX7000 that boosts Helldivers 2 performance by up to 35%. RX7600 beats 4060 by a huge amount with the latest drivers. Did you use the latest drivers 24.4.1?

  • @Wizard-kk4lz
    @Wizard-kk4lz 3 месяца назад +4

    Great comparison video, cheers m8:)

  • @TheIndulgers
    @TheIndulgers 3 месяца назад +118

    Just a reminder what nvidia has done to the 60 class card. The 4060 die size is 159mm compared to 445mm on the 2060. That doesn’t even include what they have done to the memory bus width.
    Let’s be real, the 4060 is really a 4050 at best.

    • @salemthekit6143
      @salemthekit6143 3 месяца назад +14

      That 50 classification makes even more sense when you realize it has the power draw of previous cards as well as the fact that you can get them in low profile and slim versions which rarely happened with anything 60 and above.

    • @grumpyratt2163
      @grumpyratt2163 3 месяца назад +27

      4060 5nm 2060 14nm. The die contains more transistors than the 2060 even though the die is smaller so your comment is rather disingenuous

    • @o_sagui6583
      @o_sagui6583 3 месяца назад +11

      ​@@grumpyratt2163die size matters more when you compare between the Shader Units of the flagship to the rest of the line
      Previous 60 class cards always has close to a 30% of die size compared to the flagship
      The 4060 has a 17% die size compared to the 4090. . . Which is the same die size as prior 50 class cards

    • @TheGameBench
      @TheGameBench 3 месяца назад +6

      @@salemthekit6143 Well... TBF the 1060, 1660, 1660 Super and 1660 Ti all consume around 120 watts. So, that isn't really unheard of. But yes, I absolutely agree with with the premise that the 60 class is mostly a 50 class in disguise as is the 70 class is mostly a 60 class card in disguise as well.

    • @arenzricodexd4409
      @arenzricodexd4409 3 месяца назад +9

      GTX1060 die size is 200mm2. 2060 end up having quite big die size for a few reasons. first 2060 is build on enhance 16nm process (12nmFFN) instead of die shrink. so to gain significantly performance they need to go big. plus TU106 used for 2060 also used for RTX 2070. if 2060 was properly done on 7nm it will probably have the usually die size we saw on x60 class of GPU.

  • @fragalot
    @fragalot 3 месяца назад +5

    I really wish performance benchmarks also included games that use the Unity engine, as it's a very common game engine for early access games on Steam. Games like 7 Days to Die (which is about to leave early access next month), Empyrion Galactic Survival (already out of EA), Among Us, Cities: Skylines, Fall Guys, Genshin Impact, Kerbal Space Program, PC Building Simulator, Valheim, and VRChat.

  • @JimmyTTE
    @JimmyTTE 3 месяца назад +1

    Great review!

  • @niftyn2777
    @niftyn2777 3 месяца назад +34

    Currently rocking a 4060 the electricity bill is very low thanks to the low TDP of the card, and also its perfect for my 450 Watt power supply which i didnt want to upgrade!
    Best card for me because i didnt had to change my psu and also the electricity costs are high in my country
    Very satisfied with the card!

    • @DDMC525
      @DDMC525 2 месяца назад +1

      Hi! Goo dayt you, I just have a question please... i am planning to build a pc, my first time hehe, and the 4060 is the best value i can get for my money from where i am and i have been seeing a lot of people hating on the GPU. how is your gaming experience with it and have you had any trouble playing at 1440 with it? Thank you so much!

    • @niftyn2777
      @niftyn2777 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DDMC525 Currently playing games on 1080P havent had an issue, Enjoying the card at its best, if you think its the best value card for you then go for it!
      But i shall remind you that this card was targeted for 1080P but it should definitely be capable of handing 1440P
      Hope that helps, have a Good Day!

    • @ash_1419
      @ash_1419 Месяц назад

      ​@@DDMC5254060 is a good card it's only problem is that it costs $400 and has only 8gb vram other than that its really good.

    • @farhanfadilah1519
      @farhanfadilah1519 Месяц назад

      @@DDMC525psure if u play most your games at 1080 its the best card for u but at 1440 3060 will be better but you lost fg features so its on you,im using 4060 its very good for my electricity bill😅

    • @kuzou3200
      @kuzou3200 Месяц назад

      how much fps do you get in fortnite ?

  • @lukasschmidt9555
    @lukasschmidt9555 2 месяца назад

    Love that Steel Legend! I might buy one to go with my Asrock Steel Legend motherboard.

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX 3 месяца назад +27

    I mean right now isn't a good time to get either of these GPU's as now we are beginning to enter the transition phase between GPU generations. You could either wait and save up more money to get something way better like an RTX 5070 or RX 8800 XT, or wait and spend way less on these GPUs. Likely 200 USD unlike the 300 they sell at now.

    • @bradlydrummondofficial
      @bradlydrummondofficial Месяц назад

      i’m still running a 1050ti what should i do

    • @RobloxianX
      @RobloxianX Месяц назад

      ​@@bradlydrummondofficial To be honest, any GPU would be a huge upgrade. Get a used RTX 3060, it will do you well, just make sure your PSU can handle it, and your CPU wont bottleneck it.

    • @erre3944
      @erre3944 Месяц назад

      how much should i wait? cause i wanted to buy a pc now, using the 7600

    • @RobloxianX
      @RobloxianX Месяц назад

      @@erre3944 The 7600 is a fine GPU for the price, RX8000 is coming later than we thought, likely in 2025. So go for it

    • @cubanspy1231
      @cubanspy1231 Месяц назад +1

      bro my 10603gb is dying

  • @s3rit661
    @s3rit661 3 месяца назад +92

    Short version: Yes
    The bad press is not bc of AMD, it's bc it has 128bit memory bus

    • @Scott99259
      @Scott99259 3 месяца назад +4

      Even Rx 7600 does has 128bit memory fool.

    • @prosecanlik4296
      @prosecanlik4296 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Scott99259only difference is that the 7600 is cheaper. That's it

    • @Dwayneff
      @Dwayneff 3 месяца назад +5

      That's why I can not upgrade my 3060 ti, my 3060 ti beats the 4060 by quite a bit and has 256 bit bus. I have no reason to upgrade right now.

    • @Odinsday
      @Odinsday 3 месяца назад +8

      @@Scott99259Yeah, but the 6600 also had a 128 bit bus width so no one was shocked to see this with the 7600. The RTX 3060, as well as almost every 60 class NVIDIA card comes with a 192 bit bus, so the 4060 is a big downgrade in that regard. It has more in common with a 4050 Ti than a 4060, which is what the 4070 realistically should have been.

    • @chieftron
      @chieftron 3 месяца назад +1

      Fun fact, a 4060 TI 16gb is a better card then the 3070 TI for 4k gaming. The 1% and 0.1% lows are WAAAAAY better because of the 16gb vram. I just wish my 3070 TI had 16gb of vram like my 4060 ti :(

  • @Tilesdrop
    @Tilesdrop 3 месяца назад +1

    So should I go for a 4060ti instead bc rx 7600 prices are horrible where I am (basically all amd card are none existent)

  • @MitternachtAngel
    @MitternachtAngel 3 месяца назад +5

    I would like to have a 4060 for 250 but we are not in 2015. For some reason a lot of people think that 300 dollars now it´s what it was in 2015. The 1060 was 300, the 2060 was 350, the 3060 was 320

  • @danielvelasquez7708
    @danielvelasquez7708 3 месяца назад

    I did get the Asrock steel legend 7600, but the Xt model after the intel arc A750 le did not meet my expectations, and have not regret buying the gpu. It's surprisingly light able to perform well on all the games that I play Tony Hawk Pro Skater, and the graphics on Halo Infinite was resolved after switching.

  • @darrooxx
    @darrooxx 3 месяца назад +1

    Brad now the heat of summer is coming, can you underclock , undervolt guide for msi, gigabyte and asus motherboards and intel core i7 and amd ryzen 5 or 7 cpus.

  • @chuckthetekkie
    @chuckthetekkie 3 месяца назад

    What is TSR Upscalng? You have it listed on the Fortnite list for both cards.

  • @Greenfield-yf1wh
    @Greenfield-yf1wh 3 месяца назад +3

    Here in Australia, they are practically the same price. It makes no sense to go for RX 7600 when RTX 4060 is on special and is actually cheaper than RX 7600.

  • @lucropcgaming6431
    @lucropcgaming6431 3 месяца назад

    That power draw comparison is really useful. Its a shame that there are no single fan latest gen AMD card for super SFF enthusiast

  • @md.atikurrahman7445
    @md.atikurrahman7445 2 месяца назад +1

    Amd doesn’t seem to work well with multiplayer games. Why??

  • @X-Kittle
    @X-Kittle Месяц назад +5

    howdy , asus 7600 oc owner here .
    great video as always
    just wanted to mention that the new drivers for amd specially the 7k series are just fantastic
    ive never had a problem with the amd driver unlike how people think they might be even better than nvidia drivers
    ive got only 1 error from the driver in past 8 months of owning the 7600 and it was because of something ive done not the driver

  • @EweToobUsername
    @EweToobUsername 3 месяца назад +3

    Where’s the A770? The 8GB version is $260 and makes both of these cards look too expensive in most situations.

  • @letto18
    @letto18 3 месяца назад

    Currious what GPU vs CPU utilization was like, any bottlenecking? I'm hoping to upgrade from my GTX 1070 and was advised to target a RTX 3060 Ti, 2080 Ti, 3070 or RX 6700 XT/6750 XT that would be better than either of these cards to pair with my Ryzen 5 3500X that I plan on upgrading to either a 5600, 5600X or 5700X. Would be mainly for FInal Fantasy XIV Dawntrail with reccomended requirements calling for a RX 5600 XT/RTX 2060 with the most demanding game I have currently being Cyberpunk I believe, I have a 1080p 144Hz monitor though I'd be happy with a 60FPS minimum/0.1% low with as high settings as I could go without using upscaleing tech (FSR/DLSS) to achieve that target.

  • @pandapip1
    @pandapip1 3 месяца назад +2

    12:52 I would have taken into account what saving that $30 would get you. Assuming a reasonable APR of 5.00% for 5 years, you'd end up with $38.29 from your original $30. So for the 1hr/day, $0.4/kWh, 5 years case, it would *still* be just under $7 cheaper to go AMD.

  • @coreycarpenter2489
    @coreycarpenter2489 3 месяца назад +2

    I wish these were more of a 6700XT competitor. Having 12GB Vram would be so good on these cards

  • @tonyd7164
    @tonyd7164 3 месяца назад +3

    I just bought my palit 4060 because I needed a itx single fan card to fit my new itx build. Wanted amd but the only single fan card they have is a rx6500.

  • @devongreen7308
    @devongreen7308 3 месяца назад +1

    That Hell divers 2 outcome is a little off, AMD just did new drivers and it boosts frame quit a bit, like 20-30fps. I have an RX 6800.

  • @PlayerXess
    @PlayerXess 3 месяца назад +43

    Right now I have a Ryzen 7 5800X and a 2060. I was planning a full rebuild but now I think I am just going to get a bigger case and buy the RX 7600. Thanks for the comparison.

    • @Scott99259
      @Scott99259 3 месяца назад +8

      Don't buy 7600 you will miss dlss.fsr is way worse quality.

    • @o_sagui6583
      @o_sagui6583 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Scott99259that's cap
      @PlayerXess save some more and try to get a 70 class card instead. No point in going for the bottom line current cards when the 6600xt could get close

    • @iemgote7249
      @iemgote7249 3 месяца назад

      @@Scott99259 XESS 1.3 is similar and doesn´t require you to give money to ngreedia.

    • @arsenii_yavorskyi
      @arsenii_yavorskyi 3 месяца назад +16

      it's not worth it. either get something genuinely better, like RX 6800, or hold off for now.

    • @Vorexia
      @Vorexia 3 месяца назад

      @@Scott99259It also has worse VRAM compression, worse offline rendering, and despite what this video says, worse RT. It’s not worth the $10 savings. If you want a good entry-level GPU, the RX 6600, 6650 XT, 6750 XT, or the RTX 3060 12GB are the ways to go. Current gen sucks for entry level gamers.

  • @alexanderstults8484
    @alexanderstults8484 3 месяца назад +1

    Amd just released drivers that up helldivers 2 preformance. In some cases, by 20 fps.

  • @nauaito
    @nauaito 2 месяца назад

    I think it could be useful to also show framegen, that does boost fps and it is a feature

  • @thseed7
    @thseed7 3 месяца назад

    I really am surprised by the results. Think all the 8 GB VRAM cards were particularly poorly received at the initial, obscene launch prices.

  • @Andros.G
    @Andros.G 3 месяца назад

    Would the 7600 get a boost with Afmf.

  • @Braiam
    @Braiam 3 месяца назад +1

    To be fair to the RX 7600 raytracing performance, their lows .1% were identical, and some people might prefer more consistent fps than higher average.

  • @peter_parkour
    @peter_parkour 2 месяца назад

    Would've loved to see a 1440p comparison between these two cards for AAA games.

  • @carsonrichards4428
    @carsonrichards4428 3 месяца назад +2

    Are we really calling -$20 significant price drops for this?

  • @lawrencekallal6640
    @lawrencekallal6640 3 месяца назад

    Not sure where or how you came up with the total power consumption numbers, but when Techpowerup measured the actual power consumption through the pcie slot and 8pin connector for gaming, they had only a 27w difference …
    RTX MSI 4060 8GB … 125w
    RX 7600 8GB … … … 152w
    Phoronix in their RTX 4060 vs. AMD Radeon RX 7600 Linux Gaming Performance averaged 98w for the 4060 and 111w for the 7600. Only a 13w difference.
    AFAICT MSI Afterburner is under reporting the 4060 numbers and over reporting the 7600 numbers. If these numbers are coming from the AMD drivers, they should fix that.
    Also, the 7600’s idle at lower watts than the 4060’s, techpowerup …
    RX 7600 … … … … … … 2w
    RX Sapphire Pulse 7600 … 4w
    MSI RTX 4060 … … … 11w
    Palit RTX 4060 … … … 14w
    So, 15-20 hrs of lower idle should make up a few hrs of gaming.

  • @jeofthevirtuoussand
    @jeofthevirtuoussand 3 месяца назад +7

    the huge problem here, is that rx 7600 makes the 4060 a good value, because of dlss upscaling ( which at resolutions targeted by these gpus is really fine)
    heck you can even use dlss to upscale from 720p to 1440p or 4k and not ending up regretting that decision ,we will see when fsr 3.1 will available as mods for games , because right now , the 4060 is the better value of the 2

  • @PowCards
    @PowCards 3 месяца назад

    i actually very much like it, was able to get one for not a bad price and it didnt cause me to have to upgrade my power supply!

  • @Kaypers
    @Kaypers 3 месяца назад +1

    Honestly the $30 extra on the 4060 gets you NVENC (if you’re streaming on twitch or video editing) and power saving.
    That’s really about it.

  • @TechTickk
    @TechTickk 3 месяца назад +2

    Amd released a driver update yesterday boosted the performance in Helldivers II. Great review, I wish all review use realistic hardware and settings.

    • @PixelSheep
      @PixelSheep 3 месяца назад +1

      What are the numbers now? :)

    • @TechTickk
      @TechTickk 3 месяца назад

      @@PixelSheep I think it's about 10% increase in performance. You can check @AncientGameplays he did a video about the driver update. :)

    • @TechTickk
      @TechTickk 3 месяца назад

      @@PixelSheep I think it's about 10 to 15% you can check @AncientGameplays He did a video about the driver update. :)

  • @frankshaw2057
    @frankshaw2057 3 месяца назад +2

    Helldivers 2 has just been fixed with a driver update. It's a lot faster.

  • @oopsydaisy4637
    @oopsydaisy4637 3 месяца назад

    How is 1440p at 144fps not a budget under £200 yet? I had 40fps at 1440p 10yrs ago with a 780sc 3GB lol (under £400 new)

  • @matejboras9279
    @matejboras9279 3 месяца назад

    is it bad for 330$? I got mine for 330. All other models in store are 380-450$. 4060Ti are 500-650 and 4070 is 700$

  • @bborb
    @bborb 3 месяца назад

    can you overclock them both?

  • @fragalot
    @fragalot 3 месяца назад

    Wow Montech makes PSUs too?

  • @flywheelshyster
    @flywheelshyster 3 месяца назад

    Man i had planned to do my first build after christmas cause tired of 1650 s but skytech had a ridiculous post christmas sale 800 with 4060 and with pcparts picker came out only a little cheaper so said eff it. But ya theres some small issues with the 4060 if it wasnt on sale or in a prebuilt on sale (mine was 250 off) probably not wirth it

  • @ronch550
    @ronch550 2 месяца назад

    In my country the 7600 can be had for about $290 while the 4060 is about $330. How does this compare to your part of the woods? I'm from SE Asia, btw.

  • @Jasontyo
    @Jasontyo 22 дня назад

    I like the Fractal Pop Mini better than the case you chose for the price.
    I’m considering a GPU of this class to finally upgrade a PC from a 1070. Feels insane cards still have only 8GB.

    • @godnamedtay
      @godnamedtay 10 дней назад

      Fractal cases are typically always better than the competition. I’d say about 85-90% of the time I’d buy a fractal case over anything else. Minus a few exceptions. The focus is a garbage case but it’s like 100 years old.

  • @DyllonMcDonald68
    @DyllonMcDonald68 3 месяца назад +1

    You forgot the new amd frame gen that you can turn on in the adrenaline software.

  • @anthonyc2159
    @anthonyc2159 3 месяца назад +9

    Based on these graphs, the card to get is the 7600 since it has on average HIGHER 1% lows than the 4060; EVEN in Cyberpunk, which means a smoother game experience overall. 😬

  • @KeithEngel
    @KeithEngel 3 месяца назад

    Replaced my 2060 6Gb last year with a 7600, I paid close to 350 for my 2060 so I'm happy with my performance and ram uplift for 100 dollars less than what I paid for my RTX 2060.

  • @thetruchaos
    @thetruchaos 3 месяца назад +1

    I just bought an RX 7600 off Amazon for $260, gonna try it out later today once my new case arrives and see how well it can perform, though I usually play on 1080p and I’m well aware 1440p is harder to run, but switching from an antique 1050 super 4GB, I think it’s worth the shot to try it out 💪.
    If not then my lil bro will inherit this pc and I’ll look for upgrades 😂

    • @thejayrush
      @thejayrush 3 месяца назад

      Let us know how it works for you at 1080p! I currently have one in my cart haha.what cpu are you pairing with it? Thanks!

    • @muhammadhadiqduiputra9663
      @muhammadhadiqduiputra9663 2 месяца назад

      Same with me, I am upgrading my PC from 1060 3gb into 7600. I planned to play at 1080p, hope this card kills it!

    • @Scarlett-bu8jo
      @Scarlett-bu8jo 13 дней назад

      @@muhammadhadiqduiputra9663how’s is the the 7600 doing with you

  • @NeonDrageine
    @NeonDrageine Месяц назад +1

    what if the price is the SAME?

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer 3 месяца назад

    I put a 4060 in my HTPC, a serious upgrade from the RX6400 that was in it. Now it can help out with video transcoding duties, where it is about 2/3 as fast as the 4080 in my main PC (using Handbrake to transcode BD rips to AV1). 2/3 the speed for 1/4 the money ain't a bad deal. Gaming? No comparison. The 4080 annihilates the 4060. But that's not what I use the 4060 for most of the time.

  • @oOZellzimaOo
    @oOZellzimaOo 3 месяца назад +1

    I've seen the Intel A770 go for about 300 freedom eagles.
    That card would maybe be a better buy.

  • @xavier3653
    @xavier3653 3 месяца назад +11

    The thing is the 7600 is $250 and the 7600 oc is $280.

    • @MadridistaFrieren
      @MadridistaFrieren 3 месяца назад +8

      And yet according to hardware unboxed the 7600 is a slower also consumes more power than the 4060 ( i would skip the 4060,7600 & 7600Xt All together tbh).

    • @BaIlincat43
      @BaIlincat43 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@MadridistaFrierenNgl I'd just wait for the 50 series

    • @noobgamer4709
      @noobgamer4709 3 месяца назад

      @@BaIlincat43 50 series are supposedly launching with 5090/5080 within this year. Nvidia also sneakily planned an event a day before AMD Computex opening keynote which is I'M SUSPECTING they are launching/paper launch 5090/5080 in order to make AMD card look slower. I mean, AMD only seems to launch a card around 7900GRE-7900XT in performance and around 500USD. If Nvidia get the 5090 which is 4090+30-50% and market the hell out of RT, AMD card gonna look slower even if the RDNA4 improvement on RT seem to be good according to leaks. This could the reason why Nvidia is planning an event a day earlier than AMD. Also as of a day or two ago, AMD just updated the GFX with Navi4X which supposed to be around 50% more shader engine. RNDA3 Navi31 has 6 shader engine and the updated GFX for RDNA4 Navi4X say it has 9 shader engine. I'm not saying AMD is launching a high end card that could possibly compete with 5080 or even 5090, but that could also be the reason why Nvidia is rattled and suddenly plan an event a day before computex.

  • @Ethan7_7
    @Ethan7_7 Месяц назад

    I got a 7600 but sadly had to return it due to driver timeouts. DDU didnt work, nothing worked. I changed it for a 4060

  • @gaijinkuri684
    @gaijinkuri684 3 месяца назад +2

    The answer is “depends how much it cost compared to the 7600 where you live”.

  • @FreakyDudeEx
    @FreakyDudeEx Месяц назад

    yea it was a tough pill to swallow that i actually had to buy a 4060ti 16GB because i actually needed the bloody thing as a card under 21cm with cuda and its other features and i needed more than 8GB of vram... it felt so bad to buy it but i know i need it and am going to use it...

  • @onegabriel5823
    @onegabriel5823 3 месяца назад +2

    I picked up an RX 7600 just for plug and play Linux support.

  • @dezzygaming6057
    @dezzygaming6057 3 месяца назад +3

    Got a 4060 8gb for 120$, even tho its has 8gb of vram it still a good 1080p GPU

  • @Mo_Moji
    @Mo_Moji 4 дня назад

    Just seeing the 1% and 0.1% lows being usually 15 fps higher on the 7600 card vs the 4060 would mean there is a clear winner because a dip to 45fps from the 4060 vs 58fps on the 7600 is a huge very noticeable difference.

  • @davidvela2346
    @davidvela2346 2 месяца назад

    And what about the rx 6650 xt?

  • @DakturPepper
    @DakturPepper 2 месяца назад

    As a 4060 user, if you're upgrading from any of the 20, 30 series cards, or at least only getting 5-10% performance boost. The 4060 is not worth it. I came from the 1660S. After upgrading, so many games in my library that I was running on med-high is now running at ultra at 60-70fps plus. With DLSS and FG, you can go for so much more and saves up on your electricity bills. Of course, there's probably better options you can choose from but you gotta factor in if it's available in your area. Otherwise, the shipping cost alone would hurt you if you're on a budget.

  • @jokercardzz
    @jokercardzz 3 месяца назад

    Hey Brett, love your channel. May I suggest that you mention the lows next time you do a review like this? There were quite a few times where the 7600 technically lost in avg fps, it still kicked ass in the lows, even comparing fsr with dlss. Other than that, keep on keeping on my brother!

  • @Y0Uanonymous
    @Y0Uanonymous 3 месяца назад +4

    At PCpartpicker, the cheapest RTX 4060 is 295 dollars while the cheapest RX 7600 is 260 dollars right now.
    Also, you can use frame generation on any DX11 or DX12 game with the RX 7600 thanks to AFMF, while you can use frame generation on only a small number of games that support DLSS 3 with an RTX 4060. Not every game developer will spend the time and resources to support DLSS 3.

  • @brningman
    @brningman 3 месяца назад

    And if you're looking on the used market, you might get lucky and find a 7600 for under $220 (seen them for around $200 at times). It's much more difficult to find a used 4060 for that price.

  • @JJ0203
    @JJ0203 3 месяца назад +1

    I have a Ryzen 5 7500F got it before scalpers killed the prices. A OC’d 4060 and it plays 1440p at ease Idk what ya’ll are on VRAM isn’t everything when the GPU is really optimized which it is. It will be the next GTX 1060 for sure

    • @stangamer1151
      @stangamer1151 3 месяца назад

      8GB is mostly fine for this class of GPUs, unless you are willing to play AAA games right at launch. Unoptimzed games may utilize more VRAM then they really need to function stable. So you need to wait for some time, until game devs release a few patches. For example, Horizon FW has already received a few patches, yet it still consumes a bit too much of VRAM. So, unless you are willing to play with Medium quality textures, which look pretty blurry, you had to wait another week or two.

  • @cmja09
    @cmja09 3 месяца назад +11

    yeah pretty bad, but it's the best price to performance for us low profile ultrasff PC enjoyers

    • @SequentialSnep
      @SequentialSnep 3 месяца назад

      @@BrunodeSouzaLino I'm using a velka 3 (a 3.9l case) and my 4060 has enough space to route the power connector; I'd imagine any builds larger than mine will be fine.

    • @vgtrombone
      @vgtrombone 3 месяца назад

      Except for the fact that the last-gen 3060 Ti still outperforms it and could easily be found for $300 new before Nvidia cut production. When SFF price to performance goes down between gens, you're doing something wrong.

  • @hoshi314
    @hoshi314 3 месяца назад

    Was actually thinking about buying 4060 (or ti version) since i am upgrading from GTX 1060. Before anyone said "wait for 50 series" i set a deadline for PC upgrades until September this year. Even then i think shipping cost is going to make the difference moot in my region

    • @n4r581
      @n4r581 3 месяца назад +1

      before considering 4060ti, check 4070's price. Cause 4070 is considered QHD card. While 4060 is fhd, ti version or not.

    • @hoshi314
      @hoshi314 3 месяца назад

      @@n4r581 which brand you recommend? Also i am not looking for the 3 fan variant, M-ATX case

    • @hoshi314
      @hoshi314 3 месяца назад

      @@n4r581 googled the difference, i normally game in 1080p anyway so that's a point in favor of 4060

    • @n4r581
      @n4r581 3 месяца назад

      @@hoshi314 my experience is only nvidia sided. And i said - before considering 4060 Ti, check if you can buy 4070 for a little on top. M-atx is a little one? Like size of a console?

    • @hoshi314
      @hoshi314 3 месяца назад

      @@n4r581 yeah, the price for base 4070 is almost 100$ more and i'm balancing 3 hobbies so i think i'll get 4060ti for VRAM.
      3 fan variant is an absolute no-go

  • @Robertus_Rex
    @Robertus_Rex 23 дня назад +1

    4060 is a good card, but the price for it is a decisive factor. I got a pc at costco with it that came with the latest generation i7 cpu for only $1000, so I think it's a great budget deal if you can get that.

    • @GRIGGINS1
      @GRIGGINS1 21 день назад +1

      I got mine back in May via a PC clearance sale. My new Gaming PC was marked down by $250 dollars. So I literally got $100 dollars off on my 4060.

  • @keikeikeis
    @keikeikeis 2 месяца назад

    ill say this much, upscaling and fluid motion tips the scale to amd's favour. This is a raw comparison but i just feel like amd isn't getting enough recognition for these "hidden values".

  • @digitalsublime
    @digitalsublime 2 месяца назад

    Dlss doesn't have the fussiness of FSR, AI upscaling is widely superior. And I own AMD gpu, but can't stand the pixelated edges on foliage and thin lines

  • @PVTParts472
    @PVTParts472 Месяц назад +2

    the only reason i want the rtx 4060 is due to its power efficiency

  • @joiboiii
    @joiboiii Месяц назад

    It's a 1080p card if you push native gaming - 4060 can definitely run on 1440p / 1600p with DLSS Q and frame gen

  • @raeferwilson2599
    @raeferwilson2599 3 месяца назад +1

    Adrenaline 24.4.1 drivers improves Helldivers performance

  • @BR-ip5pz
    @BR-ip5pz Месяц назад +1

    I have both. I would recommend the RTX 4060. DLSS 3 is amazing

  • @misterbrickest
    @misterbrickest 2 месяца назад

    There's A BUNCH of Bifrost 7600s on eBay RIGHT NOW for $220 to $250
    Literally just saw them. I don't need them just obsessed with GPUs. I Gotta 4060 laptop open box from Best Buy on Xmas Eve sale for ONLY $779!! And my desktop smashes that with my RX6800+5800X3D, but for a new gaming 60 series laptop, DAMN I gotta good deal! That Lenovo Legion Slim 5 goes for $1200 - $1500 now.
    That being said I may end up getting a 5000 series or an XTX or 4090. I would have a REALLY hard time upgrading to a GPU with the same VRAM, and the 7900XT isn't quite fast enough to merit upgrading. I want XTX, 4090, and MAYBE a 4080 Super, but the 16GB of VRAM pisses me off at 75% more than I paid for my current 16GB GPU. But I may opt for a used 4090 or just wait for the 5080/5090 and sell my RX6800 before it drops too much more in price. But damn, that RX6800 is an absolute BEAST at 1440p, especially in somewhat older games. I can still play lots of games at 4k 60fps like Far Cry 6 with Ultra/RT reflections, but RT shadows in that game suuuck lol so I Keep them off. But most games older than 2-3 years I can do 4k 60fps or 1440p 120fps no problem, which is good as my 4K TV is only 60hz but my 1440p monitor is 144hz.

  • @ashishpareek7548
    @ashishpareek7548 2 месяца назад

    4060 is 400$ in my country where rx7600 is 320$ . Is it worth the 80$ to buy the 4060?

  • @adityapawar2834
    @adityapawar2834 21 день назад

    I have a B450M S2H x.x , can I purchase ryzen 5 5600 and a 4060 ?

    • @rynndash
      @rynndash 13 дней назад

      Yes would use Rx 7600 instead

  • @elibolton6235
    @elibolton6235 3 месяца назад

    I’ve tried FSR 3 and it’s extremely underwhelming. I want it to compete directly with Nvidia’s frame generation, but it’s really bad 😂

  • @Siraj75
    @Siraj75 2 месяца назад +2

    You need to start ironing your t-shirts!

  • @Tilesdrop
    @Tilesdrop 3 месяца назад +1

    12:35 what if I play 8 hours 💀

  • @brningman
    @brningman 3 месяца назад

    The Ryzen 5 5600x on sale at Newegg today for $134.

  • @cracklingice
    @cracklingice 3 месяца назад

    At just 40 bucks, there's no reason to reduce to 16GB. This isn't 2018 anymore. Based on what I'm seeing on Partpicker, looks like 32GB starts at 53 bucks tho. A 16GB kit starts at $34. Personally, I find this to be a $20 very well spent.

  • @Alovon
    @Alovon Месяц назад

    Do want to ask, did you make sure it was with HWRT Engaged rather than SWRT? As SW-Lumen would make sense to favor AMD (infinity Cache keeping the cores fed better without it needing to disable any TMUs to do RT as yes, AMD GPUs disable the Texture Mapping Units in the CUs that do RT, even with RDNA3).

  • @mattmunroe4928
    @mattmunroe4928 3 месяца назад +2

    Niether RX 7600 or RTX 4060 seems like progress vs the previous generations, especially $ per FPS.

    • @Flyon86
      @Flyon86 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I think gains are very minimal over the rtx 3060 and the rx 6600xt

  • @Revus324
    @Revus324 Месяц назад

    Just bought a new RX 7600 for 232€ (tax included) on sale and here in germany the RTX 4060 averages around 300€ so the choice is pretty clear what to go for here.

  • @akirafan28
    @akirafan28 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for this Brett :)

  • @benknapp3787
    @benknapp3787 2 дня назад

    I noticed you didn't mention 1% lows very much. The 7600 has some really big 1% low wins that make a much bigger difference than average FPS.

  • @peter2liter
    @peter2liter 3 месяца назад

    I gotta say those are pretty impressive scores for a 50 class Nvidia GPU.

  • @disfiguringthegoddess1102
    @disfiguringthegoddess1102 3 месяца назад

    So. I have a 1660. Being offered 4060. Worth it right?

    • @GRIGGINS1
      @GRIGGINS1 21 день назад

      Take it is a good deal. I you already have it congrats.

  • @dvdmax9381
    @dvdmax9381 13 дней назад

    I5 10400f i rtx 4060 is good? Buy ?

  • @ttrev007
    @ttrev007 3 месяца назад

    also power draw usually means more heat

  • @jwmilly3671
    @jwmilly3671 3 месяца назад +1

    Hmm I have a 5500xt 8gb and run rdr2 at 1440 medium high at a locked 60. Don't think the 7600 would be worth it for me.

    • @Psi-Storm
      @Psi-Storm 3 месяца назад

      You probably can get a used rx6800 for the same price as a new 7600. That's a nice upgrade.

  • @mr_tin_god
    @mr_tin_god 3 месяца назад +6

    There is no bad graphics card, only bad priced graphic card. I heard someone say it, idk who 😅

  • @Alchemy-QG
    @Alchemy-QG 3 месяца назад

    I don't have amd card on my country except for the RX580 , but not gonna buy an ancient card for a new build