Hey Matt - thanks for the credit to my episode at the start of yours. I am in full agreement with your observations and conclusions. I'm going to place a link to your review in the description of mine. I was also surprised how such an inexpensive mod can make such a difference to the perceived quietness within the cabin. Definitely worth doing the simple install.
Thanks! And more folks need to be subscribed to your channel!!! This mod is so cheap and easy to do (awkward ... but easy), it's kind of a no brainer to try.
I have done a specific course in Noise control in my college. And you said it right, noise is more of a psychological issue than a physical issue. What is a solution for one may not be the case for the other. And there is no right answer for this. It's more like how a perceives the sounds. Great content.
Hopefully Tesla incorporate some of the more popular aftermarket mods straight out of the factory (non piano black centre console, better sound proofing, wireless charging etc)
It does seem difficult to accept the Model 3 as a genuine "premium" quality vehicle with issues like this? Hopefully Tesla will incorporate better finishes such as this to match the excellence of their ev technologies in due course. For a premium ev which will inevitably run quietly, sound insulation from road and wind noise would seem to be a fundamental requirement : Tesla need to up their game here.
I’ve tried multiple door seal kits, and I have the roof band in place. I’ve come to the conclusion that the road noise that comes in is not absorbed anywhere. Not like a car that has a solid roof. A lot of sound deadening comes from the roof with a liner and some insulation in it, like having a party in a room with carpeted floors, vs a room with hardwood floors (where the sound echos)... and the Model 3’s all glass roof offers no sound absorption . Further most cars have doors with a window frame that buys you more seals around the window itself.
So as best as I can tell, having driven the old Model 3 and the new Highland, it's actually a problem that can be solved two ways: aerodynamics, and sound deadening around the wheels. The Highland model 3 added a bit of an up-turn to the rear edge of the frunk that sends more air over the windshield and seems to keep it from colliding with the roof as loudly. They also specifically added a fair bit of sound deadening around the wheel wells, seen in some teardowns of the car, and I can definitely say it quiets things a fair bit, even at low speeds. Additionally, a very DIY-able additional solution would be to affix sound deadening material, such as some eggcrate-shape acoustic foam glued to butyl rubber, to your plastic wheel well liners. This seems to be a very common trick on luxury cars, and is absent on every Tesla I've seen.
I'll be buying a Model Y but now I own a Ford Flex and I applied door seals to all vertical edges about 8 months ago and it made a very noticeable improvement. It also greatly reduces the dust and dirt from that area around the doors making it easier to keep clean!
I have a model X and drive in a few tunnels to go to work. The cabine noise level is very unpleasant for me and I finally bought a pair of Bose noise cancellation headphones. What a difference!
I just happened to install this kit yesterday! I also can tell a real difference. Low speed through my apartments multi-level garage is definitely quieter. And like you - I noticed the most improvement in the residential areas where the speed limit is between 25mph and 45mph. At highway speeds over 60mph I do not notice much of an improvement, but I feel most of the noise is being transferred through the tires and suspension, not through the doors. I may try the window seal kit next to see if that reduces the higher speed wind noise, but I think any real improvement will come from finding tires with a lower noise rating.
My Model 3 had a lot of wind noise coming from the front windshield where it meets the rubber on the body. I put a foam strip with single sided tape on it and it helped a lot. It would be nice if Tesla spent a little extra on the car to satisfy the customer.
Not really sure what you're meaning. Are you aware that all fixed window glass in cars is mounted using an industrial adhesive that is very strong and highly waterproof? There is no air going through that adhesive. If it were, water would also go through. If you're saying you blocked some noise with foam, that could make sense though.
I've done this myself without a "kit" but with the same stuff in rolls. The best advantage: Keeping the sills and jambs clean. I was amazed at how much crud accumulates outside of the inner door seal. Especially in the rain. These new seals to a great job of keeping out the crud. It did make my car a tiny bit "quieter" as well. I had similar measurements and a similar "feel" to what you describe. The bad news: After the having these applied through the hot summer months (we get well over 100F here) there are several places where the adhesive is letting go. All the high-stress points where the creases are sharpest... and at the ends. I can push them back on, but no.... they'll have to all be pulled off once they start flopping around.
Other M3 owners have reported improvements (reductions) by installing the tubular gasket kit that is designed to go allaround the front roof glass. Not every M3 has large gaps between these glass root panels but those who do report a reduction of overhead wind noise.
i just received my kit; when I install it, I will let you know my SUBJECTIVE assessment. I spend 3 hours a day in my model 3, so I want to make it as comfortable as possible.
@@alliejr 1.5hrs each way is not that uncommon in many cities around the world. Where I am, a stretch of road that can be travelled in 25 mins by motorcycle takes nearly an hour in rush-hour. In a car it goes from about 35 mins to 1.5hrs or more. Other commutes can have 20 mins of fast driving e.g. to get the the motorway and then 40+ mins of going slowly on the motorway (yes, totally backwards). So filtering out engine noise from nearby cars iddling and also high speed wind noise would be great.
Really enjoyed that. Noise level within an EV is an issue worth investigating. I've had an Ioniq for three weeks now (1800 miles) and the absence of an ICE makes the ambient noise more emphatic. Everyone has music playing so maybe testing the noise with an audiophile would be very useful. I listen to music all the time and am enjoying the extra detail I get while listening even at moderate levels.
I wish the Ioniq had some door seal kits for wind noise. I’ve already put killmat and sound dampening foam around the car. Just gotta get rid of door wind noise
Thanks Matt, still waiting impatiently on my Model 3 downunder 🇦🇺. Great review BTW! There have only been a handful of deliveries in Australia thus far, but a lot more coming in September. Despite an early reservation and ordering a LR- P on day 1, I still don’t have a date, yet my son who reserved later than me by about a year, and then ordered an SR+ about three weeks later than me does!😐 I’ll assess the noise when we eventually get it and decide then- thanks again! 👍
That’s really frustrating ... hopefully you get it soon. I was happy to see the reports when M3s started arriving in Australia. You guys have had one of the longest waits of everybody.
Ireland is even worse. Not a single delivery date (never mind a delivery) and orders opened the same time as UK and AUS with many of us also near day one res holders. :(
Sharing it with our friend who just bought a Model 3 last month. I personally drive an MDX 2017 and I like how quite it is with acoustic glass etc., and funny enough I rented a car today for work purpose travel (~4 hours), the wind noise drove me nuts, I still have a banging headache (it was Hyundai Tucson) would only recommend it to my worst enemies. Then I get on the computer and I see Matt's video about car noise! Yea you bet I am clicking that!
It's certainly no MDX but I've rented a ton of Hyundai Tucsons and never noticed they are especially loud; in fact, I think they are on the quieter side (try a driving a VW Tiguan if you want a headache after 4 hours). Perhaps you had a bad sample.
@@alliejr LOL!! I totally agree! My wife loved the new Tiguan the way it looked etc., and then we took it for a test drive, needless to say she didn't buy it.
I did it and it did a huge amount of road noise at speeds up to around 65 miles per hour. Also added rubber gasket to the sunroof section which seemed to help at higher speed sound reduction. Thanks for the great videos. Mark
I think "Tesla Fans" did it first. I followed his advice and video instructions. Credit where credit is due. Now they have "kits". That said, YES, the door slamming sounds FANTASTIC now and there is less cabin noise. But I also installed the insulation ring around the roof glass and - this was my own idea - I added a Z seal around the trunk lid (except over the lights, there I put the Z seal on the light). I also added some leftover Z seal behind the license plate and behind the license plate plastic mounting plate too. I always thought the trunk lid closing sound was too tiny and figured road noise can certainly come into the cabin around the trunk lid. My trunk thunks shut now just like the doors and the cabin noise is noticeably reduced. My whole TM3 now sounds like a bank vault - it sounds luxurious like a Tesla should.
Can you expand on the Z seal over the trunk lights? I'm not following.... I too added seals to my trunk and agree the closing sound like the doors is better.
Up here in Seattle we have some pretty worn out roads on our highways. From years of studded tires and lack of repaving. I hear it all in my Model 3. I defiantly have my "Favorite Lanes" along 5 and 405.
Yeah, I think the best test in that regard is Massachusetts, sorry. The roads here are bad to the point of hilarity. I used to work for a moving company and one day driving west on 495 near Lowell we hit a hole in an overpass that went straight through. You could see the road underneath the bridge. We were pulled over for a routine truck inspection a few minutes later and told the trooper about the hole. He responded "you should tell someone about that"
Hey Matt- thought you’d like to know I shared this video today with a FB poster who was complaining about road noise.. as some one who absolutely loves your content, thought you’d appreciate to see how your material will continue to bring value to the world long after its initial posting! As always, thanks again for all that you do to inform the world:)
Thanks for another great review Matt. Love the info on how we hear different frequencies and thus why the 3dB seems like a more significant change, an improvement to the car. Mine is ready to be installed tonight as I had purchased it last week. Your review made me want to put it in NOW. 😁
Really? In the Model 3 it’s mostly road noise from the tires that I’m hearing. Curious what the differences are between the Leaf and Model 3 sound proofing.
If you have the sound files you can still run an FFT analysis to look at what specific frequencies were reduced. Free software like Audacity have the capability if you don't already have another software tool to run it.
Definitely worth the install. Although the noise reduction was minimal, the biggest benefit for me was that the doors did not allow as much dust inside.
Matt, I’m wondering what your opinion is of noise cancellation technology employed by many high end automakers and upgraded sound systems. Would seem an easy s.w. upgrade to add an on/off switch for applying noise cancellation algorithms to the upgraded Tesla stereo; especially when the stereo is not being used for music and/or podcast listening.
I found the kit to reduce high frequency noise a fair bit. Enough to make it a must-have item. However there's an opportunity to do more (acoustic glass, dampening around the glass roof, better wheel well dampening?) If you look at an Audi roof, the gaps where the sides meet the roof are completely covered. In my opinion, noise from 55-85 mph is the worst part of the Model 3.
In general, I expected EV cars to be inherently quieter due to the absence of the ICE exhaust. But I have found instead that most of the cabin noise is due to tires interacting with the road surface. In Chicago, there are constant highway resurface projects, which means that I experience cabin noise related to various surface types: new vs old tarmac, new vs old concrete, abraded vs grooved concrete. Noise due to airflow is going to be noticeable around that velocity where wind-resistance becomes greater than rolling-resistance. And that is right around your 30-40 mph zone of greatest benefit for the new moldings. Above that range, it's mostly tire noise, and the benefits of the rubber strips are reduced. My opinion (c) 2019 me.
Agree with all of that. It's the same thing in the Boston area with road surfaces. In fact, part of my drive along the Mass Pike was across grooved pavement that was ground down in preparation for new tarmac. Tire noise is the biggest culprit at highway speeds for sure.
Yup! No substiute for good sound deadening and acoutstic glass. The engine in most modern ICE cars is spinning maybe 2000 RPM or less and barely audible when cruising-- it's only audible under hard acceleration. Most all car noise (in any kind of car) is road and tire noise.
@@alliejr Speaking of glass, maybe someone could do an experiment with applying e.g. 0.5mm security film to the glass surfaces? Assuming this is legal/safe. If mine ever arrives I plan to do this at least to the small rear windows that seem to be a target for breakage. A film on the inside and outside is cheap and should make it harder to break - there's another test someone with "spare money" or a popular YT channel could try.
I have installed for my hood and rear trunk where metal is expense and also replaced my skit plate that’s padded and it’s made of aluminum. I also considered modifying my windows to double pin glass soon
Great video. I don't understand why Tesla made the dopey decision to use a frameless window design, which is guaranteed to be both noisier and more difficult to build correctly. I know it's not a simple thing to do, but unless the decibel meter is at ear height and approximate location, you're measuring nonsense. I know you know that sound falls off quickly with distance-- 12 inches of distance matters a ton.
The measurement is not totally meaningless, but it *is* very hard to measure sound repeatably, reliably, consistently, etc. Even harder is a vehicle in a real world environment since the wind, traffic, speed, etc., can vary so much as to make the measurements largely meaningless. It's why car manufacturers use anechoic chambers to make sound measurements.
Tesla model 3 is a 53 000$ car here in Finland at its lowest price point . It is amazing that people are still willing to DIY sound proofing on such a premium car or that there are even sound proofing kits available.
This kind of kit is pretty easy to install and doesn't really risk causing harm to the car. As I mentioned in the video, I never thought my car over overly loud before doing the kit. This was more of an experiment for folks that may think their car is too loud. I'm guessing the vast majority of Model 3 owners won't even care or think of doing anything like this.
I got the roof-line gap filler you showed around 0:18 - or at least something similar. I didn't do any sort of audio readings, but subjectively, it seemed to provide about a 5-10mph "bump" to the noise. Meaning, when before I didn't really notice the wind noise until around 65mph, after installing I don't really notice it until around 75mph. Not really a huge thing, although it is nice because a large part of my driving is in the 65-70mph range.
It would be interesting to see a sound frequency analysis comparison before and after the seals are applied. The frequency range of the decibel meter would be important to know. Knowing which frequency noises the seals block would be important also.
Good call out. I do have a recording from my phone of some of the frequencies before and after, but it was difficult to discern where there was a specific change (the fault of the app I was using).
The amount of preparation and research you do for each topic you post is commendable. Cabin noise after 1 year and 17,000 miles....some days I notice some loudness, most days I don’t. It also depends on the type of audio I’m listening to that makes road noise more noticeable. I am also surprised at the timing, and perhaps is something attributed to ‘conservation of comments’. Once you ran out of the important things to say, you start noticing more trivial observations. Why have comments attributed to increased cabin noise shown an increased now, could there be a car aging effect too? Is the noise from a low mileage Model 3 any different than a year old one? Thanks for the data driven approach. Additional thoughts. When the car was new, we left the doors unintentionally ajar most of the time as they required more effort to properly close. Tesla said the door seals would adjust on their own and the doors would close more easily. Does the additional foam interfere anyway with the force needed to close the doors?
Thanks so much. For me I’ve noticed that like on any car it depends heavily on the road top you’re driving on and weather conditions. Windy days make for a louder drive on the highway. Same for different types of black top. But some others have pointed out that there’s also the factor of not having engine noise. It makes it easier to focus on the road and wind noise. I haven’t noticed any change in noise level from when it was new until now, but it would be interesting to see if that’s the case with testing. As for the foam, it’s no harder to close the doors than it was before (at least on my install).
Hey Matt - I did the Basenor seal kit (no smell) and also did before and after db tests. I noticed that tarmac quality had a bigger effect than speed difference, so my assumption is that the higher frequency wind noise is down, but "road rumble" is unchanged. I would recommend it.
it's the loudest and thinnest insulated car ive been in, in a LONG time. It ROARS when going down the road. It's unfortunate, but the bulk of the noise we determined was coming through the suspension, especially in the rear. My neighbor an I installed a different, but similar kit on his car a few weeks ago. The door seals and the roof glass seals (which we also added) don't do much other than making the door a tighter fit.
Thanks for the video, that’s an interesting solution. Having driven a fair bit both with a Model 3 and a Model S this summer, the 3 does seem louder. My impression is that it’s lower frequency road noise rather than wind noise that is more noticeably loud - that could just be what my ears pick up, though the cabin got much quieter when driving over stretches of new tarmac when wind conditions didn’t really change. It’s not that the Model 3 was uncomfortably loud, it’s just that the S is definitely quieter - subjectively I’d say it gets noticeable around 50mph, and is quite pronounced by the time you get to highway speeds in the U.K. and Finland of 70-80mph. Not that it would deter me from getting a Model 3.
Thanks for watching! And I feel the same way about the noise in the Model 3 cabin. It's not overly loud or uncomfortable at all to me. And it really seems to be mostly coming from the lower road noise frequencies.
I purchased the strip for the glass top and because it is an after market product, the front is not wide enough to stay down in the glass well. I had to use clear silicone to hold it down. I did notice a slight noise reduction once placed when driving at higher speeds.
I own a C-Max Energi. My only sound modification so far has been disabling Ford's Active Noise Cancelling system. I can't say i really notice any difference in the overall sound; aside from fixing the droning deep bass noise that would occasionally come through the speakers with Ford's ANC system.
I had a Ford Fusion Energi (great car), but didn’t have active noise cancelling on it. It’s kind of funny/sad that a noise cancelling system was actually making the noise worse.
Thanks Matt. Good you covered the dB vs dBA differences, and particularly perception across a range of frequencies. I would love a dBA test with Tesla's competitors.
Thanks! I've seen quite a few videos with folks doing DB readings like this as proof that it does or doesn't help. It's more nuanced than that. I'd also love to see a dBA test across various cars.
I still think a good quality spray on rubberized undercoating sprayed in the wheel wells will make the biggest difference. I plan on doing it to my 3 soon.
@@pault5179 I've done it for years. Even on cars and trucks from the 70s and 80s that were prone to rusting away. It is actually a rust proofing material too. The surface must be very clean before applying. If a person is worried about a DYI job, you might get a truck spray on bed liner company to do it. Properly done, it will prevent rust, not cause it.
Drove Model 3 for the first time today and found road noise was not bad at all but noticible nonetheless, I'd say double door seals are always a good thing no matter what. I didn't hear hardly any wind noise so only road noise, oh and the Model 3 is absolutely amazing!
It really is an amazing car. I didn’t have any complaints over the sound in my car. I mainly did this test because I’ve seen so many people asking and writing about it. Thought it would be an interesting test.
You, and other reviewers, measure the sound from the center of the car. I would think you would get more realistic results by measuring DB levels at ear level on the driver or passengers side. I personally notice a good amount of road noise around the doors that my ear picks up. I actually have this same kit sitting in may garage (thanks go to Model 3 Man as well) and will install when I get a chance - funny any free time I have I just want to drive...
I did a cursory test holding the decibel meter in different locations and isn’t wildly different (at least between the console and head height). In the end I thought the console was good enough if I kept the placement the same between runs. I was most interested in the delta between before and after.
@@UndecidedMF How about doing some more runs with the meter in different places? That would at least tell us if there is a placement difference even if you can't do the "before" runs again?
Hi Matt, for me I am not sure it is the noise or the fact that I feel like I feel the road the faster I go. I am sensitive to this. I applied the seals and felt like it did very little to improve the cabin noise. It does make closing the door feel a little tighter, but I did not think it was worth it. I did the sound meter and I did not see the results you saw. I really saw no noticeable improvement. I took it a step further and sound deadened the doors and wheel weels. I still did not think the road noise significantly improved. It was quite disappointing. That is why I said "I am not sure it is the noise or the fact that I feel like I feel the road the faster I go". Not sure really what the answer here is.
Thank you for that video. I would expect more differences between all these kits as I truly think the quality level is different among all. Anyway I gonna get one installed or use the raw seals and DIY ...
Hi Matt, as regards the strip of rubber that goes round the glass roof panel: I did install this and after a couple of days got a warning error on the screen saying that the left side B pillar camera wasn't functioning because of poor visibility. I went to look at the camera and there was condensation all around the camera part of the B pillar. I waited a couple of days to see if it would clear but no so I took the seal off and the condensation cleared up immediately. I wouldn't fit one of these if you live in a damp climate or if you do be aware of this.. 👍
My take on noise in the Model 3 is this. Some days I drive down the road at various speeds and care barely hear any noises. Other days, I hear lots of noises. After installing whatever noise reductions kits that are out there I never noticed a difference in noise. Most of the noise comes from the mirrors and tires. Not much can be done about those so just drive it and stop worrying about cabin noise. ty
I recently test drove a model3, I found the noise from wind and tyres unacceptable. In addition the lack of speedometer in front of the driver a major safety fault. The need to take your eyes of the road for to long a major safety fault. The use of a head up display as used in some lexus models would be a major improvement. The lack of a deep, ie height, boot was the final nail in my deciding to not order one.
The speedometer on the screen isn’t a safety issue at all. In fact, there are other cars with speedometers in the center of the console and not in front of the driver. It didn’t take me too long to get used to glancing diagonally down vs. straight down to see the speed. And I’ve actually found myself not speeding as much because the car puts the speed limit right next to your current speed. It’s pretty nice. And when driving with Autopilot, there’s no need to even glance at the speed at all.
I have a BMW 3 series, I wonder what the decibel levels are from the Tesla model 3 compared to the BMW 328i. Great video Matt! Nice seeing the Mass pike again, lol.
It's interesting that some vendors of the kit do not actually include the seal for the side of the front door, in my case I bought a kit that includes the seal for the bottom of the front doors, the kit you bought shows the seal going from the outer side (top) coming down and all the way on the bottom. Also, the kit I bought states to add the seal on the B pillar (rear door) but on the inside of the front, not the outside...
I'd love to see a comparison to the BMW 3-series, 330i as it is the entry level 3-series and also M3 because it is what can match the Model 3 in terms of acceleration
Take a look at Tesla Bjorn. He has a series of different sound proofing videos. He had professionally sound proofing done on his m3 as well. It may be that the choice of sound deadening tires will be the most effective thing you can do to alleviate sound in the car cabin.
I believe the latest M3 now has double glazed windows with improvements made in reducing wind noise. I suspect Tesla will address this issue even further with progressive model updates.
Matt - Would love to see a segment on tires for your Tesla Model 3. I just had to replace my original OEM tires and found the options a bit disappointing.
I just don't get this being a hot issue. I came from owning a Mercedes Benz to a Model 3 RW LR and find the Tesla much quieter than the Mercedes was. Also, I always drive with the radio on since it is the best sound system I have had in any car I have owned.
I'm kind of in the same boat. The noise of the car doesn't bother me at all, but I know a lot of people that are bothered by the wind/road noise. I think part of it is the lack of engine noise that's drawing more attention to it, but the M3 also doesn't have as much sound proofing as some other cars in its class.
Considering the Merc is gas powered (along with all the associated mechanical noise and vibration) it isn't really surprising you'd find an electric vehicle quieter.
Rode in a tesla 3...im a hyperacusis sufferer, and the noise was terrible ! Had to wear noice cancel. Rode in a mercedes on the way back, and it was quiet.
I have a 2005 Volvo S80 2.4 Litre diesel. There is almost no engine noise and very little road noise at constant speed. I wonder how much better or worse the Model 3 is to my current vehicle. I have a Model 3 on order.
I’d be interested in seeing more car by car sound comparisons myself. Subjectively I don’t find the M3 any louder than any other car I’ve owned, but I haven’t driven an S80.
I usually use my audio system to drown out the external noise haha The only time it is REALLY noticeable is if I am listening to an audiobook and then hit 70-80 MPH on the freeway. If music is on, the change is hard to notice.
Im a little worried that the plastic is digging deeper into the glass especially around the corners. Been using the kit for 6 months... should I be worried if it could damage the glass? Also the plastic membrance below seems to more exposed now around the middle also...
My M3 sounds like a gas vehicle is passing me on the left... owait, that's just me hearing the maniac going 15mph over the speed limit driving by. Only time I really dislike the road noise is if a bag gets caught under my car or I'm going over certain bridges that are just louder than the rest of the road.
The lack of a manual is maddening. I’m not sure whether I got the rear doors reversed or not, with the thick part on the outside edge, or inset. The front door seems no quieter when shutting yet, I saw one video where the thick part was placed over the drainage hole, (cut out of course), and the red dragon had his over the bottom lip so the flap extended below the bottom of the door. It’s unclear if it’s sealing at all, or contacting the frame at all. Before I do the other side, thoughts? Should I buy a new kit and redo it?
@@UndecidedMF I've seen some pictures online of the roof seal gasket working its way into the existing roof glass gaskets so much that it may be an issue. Just wanted to make you aware.
I had one of those roof glass seals installed. I got a crack in the glass later. I don't think the seal was the cause because I had gotten a similar carck in the glass just after delivery of my new car. After the initial crack Tesla replaced the glass for free. But after the second crack Tesla refused to replace the glass for free claiming it was due to the aftermarket seal. The negligible benefits of the sound damping is not worth the potential expense of a broken glass rood panel. Beware.
I installed this kit before seeing you had posted a video on it! Impulse Amazon 'recommend' buy after also getting hard plastic mud flaps for the 3. Did you consider the glass roof rubber seals? The kit did not come with those. I am keen to find out if they have real world dB improvements! I figured since your ears are so close to the roof, it may have a bigger impact.
I just think you notice the noise for the first time, in the absence of an engine. The clock ticking in my room doesn't bother me, so long as the ceiling fan is on. As soon as I'm in a silent room, the quietly ticking clock will drive me mad, even though it's been there the whole time.
Hi there, It’s my first time getting a Tesla, i got the Model Y, first EV actually, I’m hearing some sound it’s as if it’s a car window left open, while the rest are closed, that annoying noise that has a pressure like quality to the ears. Is that what a wind noise is? Thanks.
All EVs are generally very quiet. Wind noise is more noticeable in EVs because it's less masked by engine noise. Google "auditory masking" for more info.
The noise is NOT subjective. It is LOUD! I’m a M2 owner and the noise in my model 3 sounded like a 10 yr old accord. Absolutely need to get kits to reduce the noise but the question is, wtf the car is allowed to leave the factory with this much noise? It’s a 40k+ car...
Thanks, Miguel! I will ... the rubber actually feels pretty good and not that different from what’s on the car from the factory. Hopefully it lasts as long. I’d be happy with 5+ years for the $30 I spent.
Hey Matt - thanks for the credit to my episode at the start of yours. I am in full agreement with your observations and conclusions. I'm going to place a link to your review in the description of mine. I was also surprised how such an inexpensive mod can make such a difference to the perceived quietness within the cabin. Definitely worth doing the simple install.
Thanks! And more folks need to be subscribed to your channel!!!
This mod is so cheap and easy to do (awkward ... but easy), it's kind of a no brainer to try.
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@@UndecidedMF did you also do the roof?
Just installed it this past weekend, cabin is noticeably quieter.
I have done a specific course in Noise control in my college. And you said it right, noise is more of a psychological issue than a physical issue. What is a solution for one may not be the case for the other. And there is no right answer for this. It's more like how a perceives the sounds. Great content.
👍 Appreciate it.
You should go work for Dyson - they have some great products, but they make some horrible noises
I’d love to see results on this combined with the seal that goes around the top glass.
Hopefully Tesla incorporate some of the more popular aftermarket mods straight out of the factory (non piano black centre console, better sound proofing, wireless charging etc)
That would be nice. Some extra seals like this wouldn’t cost much.
Well...
Why would they do that...?
The aftermarket takes care of that ...👍
It does seem difficult to accept the Model 3 as a genuine "premium" quality vehicle with issues like this?
Hopefully Tesla will incorporate better finishes such as this to match the excellence of their ev technologies in due course.
For a premium ev which will inevitably run quietly, sound insulation from road and wind noise would seem to be a fundamental requirement : Tesla need to up their game here.
I sure hope they improve with these little improvements with upcoming changes to the build quality of the Tesla Model 3.
Wireless charging is very bad. Tesla should not invest time or money into that.
Nice job as usual Matt. You stay on the subject and never talk about yourself. What a breath of fresh air!
I found the kit well worth the time and effort.
I’ve tried multiple door seal kits, and I have the roof band in place. I’ve come to the conclusion that the road noise that comes in is not absorbed anywhere. Not like a car that has a solid roof. A lot of sound deadening comes from the roof with a liner and some insulation in it, like having a party in a room with carpeted floors, vs a room with hardwood floors (where the sound echos)... and the Model 3’s all glass roof offers no sound absorption . Further most cars have doors with a window frame that buys you more seals around the window itself.
If you throw a couple pillows in the car and add something like a sun visor, would that help with sound absorption?
So as best as I can tell, having driven the old Model 3 and the new Highland, it's actually a problem that can be solved two ways: aerodynamics, and sound deadening around the wheels. The Highland model 3 added a bit of an up-turn to the rear edge of the frunk that sends more air over the windshield and seems to keep it from colliding with the roof as loudly. They also specifically added a fair bit of sound deadening around the wheel wells, seen in some teardowns of the car, and I can definitely say it quiets things a fair bit, even at low speeds. Additionally, a very DIY-able additional solution would be to affix sound deadening material, such as some eggcrate-shape acoustic foam glued to butyl rubber, to your plastic wheel well liners. This seems to be a very common trick on luxury cars, and is absent on every Tesla I've seen.
I'll be buying a Model Y but now I own a Ford Flex and I applied door seals to all vertical edges about 8 months ago and it made a very noticeable improvement. It also greatly reduces the dust and dirt from that area around the doors making it easier to keep clean!
I’m looking forward to the “keep it clean” aspect of these.
Wow. This is what content should look like. Well produced, honest, technological and straight to the point. Thanks!
I have a model X and drive in a few tunnels to go to work. The cabine noise level is very unpleasant for me and I finally bought a pair of Bose noise cancellation headphones. What a difference!
I just happened to install this kit yesterday! I also can tell a real difference. Low speed through my apartments multi-level garage is definitely quieter. And like you - I noticed the most improvement in the residential areas where the speed limit is between 25mph and 45mph. At highway speeds over 60mph I do not notice much of an improvement, but I feel most of the noise is being transferred through the tires and suspension, not through the doors. I may try the window seal kit next to see if that reduces the higher speed wind noise, but I think any real improvement will come from finding tires with a lower noise rating.
My Model 3 had a lot of wind noise coming from the front windshield where it meets the rubber on the body. I put a foam strip with single sided tape on it and it helped a lot. It would be nice if Tesla spent a little extra on the car to satisfy the customer.
If it's that easy to improve on I hope/assume they will upgrade it in more than a few ways. MANY reasons not to be an early adopter.
Not really sure what you're meaning. Are you aware that all fixed window glass in cars is mounted using an industrial adhesive that is very strong and highly waterproof? There is no air going through that adhesive. If it were, water would also go through.
If you're saying you blocked some noise with foam, that could make sense though.
I've done this myself without a "kit" but with the same stuff in rolls. The best advantage: Keeping the sills and jambs clean. I was amazed at how much crud accumulates outside of the inner door seal. Especially in the rain. These new seals to a great job of keeping out the crud.
It did make my car a tiny bit "quieter" as well. I had similar measurements and a similar "feel" to what you describe. The bad news: After the having these applied through the hot summer months (we get well over 100F here) there are several places where the adhesive is letting go. All the high-stress points where the creases are sharpest... and at the ends. I can push them back on, but no.... they'll have to all be pulled off once they start flopping around.
I didn't mention that in the video, but I'm really interested to see how much it helps over time. That area really does get dirty.
@@UndecidedMF Really? Seriously? I'm kind of shocked. I've never owned a car that gets dirty on the _INSIDE_ through gaps in the door seals.
Other M3 owners have reported improvements (reductions) by installing the tubular gasket kit that is designed to go allaround the front roof glass. Not every M3 has large gaps between these glass root panels but those who do report a reduction of overhead wind noise.
I absolutely love how in the weeds you got in this vid. Thanks for your attention to detail and efforts to effectively contextualize the data.
That's my M.O. 👍 Probably should have called the channel "in the weeds."
i just received my kit; when I install it, I will let you know my SUBJECTIVE assessment. I spend 3 hours a day in my model 3, so I want to make it as comfortable as possible.
Please do! I'd love to hear from other folks who have done it. It really is subjective, but if the noise is bothering you, this is a good first step.
Three hours a day!!!??? A hyper commute?
@@alliejr 1.5hrs each way is not that uncommon in many cities around the world.
Where I am, a stretch of road that can be travelled in 25 mins by motorcycle takes nearly an hour in rush-hour.
In a car it goes from about 35 mins to 1.5hrs or more.
Other commutes can have 20 mins of fast driving e.g. to get the the motorway and then 40+ mins of going slowly on the motorway (yes, totally backwards). So filtering out engine noise from nearby cars iddling and also high speed wind noise would be great.
alliejr That’s right: after 20 years, 6 days a week, 70 miles one way, it’s the equivalent of going to the moon and returning twice!
Really enjoyed that. Noise level within an EV is an issue worth investigating. I've had an Ioniq for three weeks now (1800 miles) and the absence of an ICE makes the ambient noise more emphatic. Everyone has music playing so maybe testing the noise with an audiophile would be very useful. I listen to music all the time and am enjoying the extra detail I get while listening even at moderate levels.
I wish the Ioniq had some door seal kits for wind noise. I’ve already put killmat and sound dampening foam around the car. Just gotta get rid of door wind noise
Thanks Matt, still waiting impatiently on my Model 3 downunder 🇦🇺. Great review BTW!
There have only been a handful of deliveries in Australia thus far, but a lot more coming in September. Despite an early reservation and ordering a LR- P on day 1, I still don’t have a date, yet my son who reserved later than me by about a year, and then ordered an SR+ about three weeks later than me does!😐
I’ll assess the noise when we eventually get it and decide then- thanks again! 👍
That’s really frustrating ... hopefully you get it soon. I was happy to see the reports when M3s started arriving in Australia. You guys have had one of the longest waits of everybody.
Ireland is even worse. Not a single delivery date (never mind a delivery) and orders opened the same time as UK and AUS with many of us also near day one res holders. :(
Sharing it with our friend who just bought a Model 3 last month.
I personally drive an MDX 2017 and I like how quite it is with acoustic glass etc., and funny enough I rented a car today for work purpose travel (~4 hours), the wind noise drove me nuts, I still have a banging headache (it was Hyundai Tucson) would only recommend it to my worst enemies. Then I get on the computer and I see Matt's video about car noise! Yea you bet I am clicking that!
Ha! Perfect timing.
It's certainly no MDX but I've rented a ton of Hyundai Tucsons and never noticed they are especially loud; in fact, I think they are on the quieter side (try a driving a VW Tiguan if you want a headache after 4 hours). Perhaps you had a bad sample.
@@alliejr LOL!! I totally agree! My wife loved the new Tiguan the way it looked etc., and then we took it for a test drive, needless to say she didn't buy it.
AlmightyGTR I just spent 4 days and 800 miles in one. It’s a great driving car and cruiser and 36 MPG on the highway. But the road noise 🙄
36mpg is pretty damn good. Mixed highway and city? Was it diesel or gas?
I did it and it did a huge amount of road noise at speeds up to around 65 miles per hour. Also added rubber gasket to the sunroof section which seemed to help at higher speed sound reduction. Thanks for the great videos. Mark
I think "Tesla Fans" did it first. I followed his advice and video instructions. Credit where credit is due. Now they have "kits". That said, YES, the door slamming sounds FANTASTIC now and there is less cabin noise. But I also installed the insulation ring around the roof glass and - this was my own idea - I added a Z seal around the trunk lid (except over the lights, there I put the Z seal on the light). I also added some leftover Z seal behind the license plate and behind the license plate plastic mounting plate too. I always thought the trunk lid closing sound was too tiny and figured road noise can certainly come into the cabin around the trunk lid. My trunk thunks shut now just like the doors and the cabin noise is noticeably reduced. My whole TM3 now sounds like a bank vault - it sounds luxurious like a Tesla should.
Can you expand on the Z seal over the trunk lights? I'm not following.... I too added seals to my trunk and agree the closing sound like the doors is better.
Up here in Seattle we have some pretty worn out roads on our highways. From years of studded tires and lack of repaving. I hear it all in my Model 3. I defiantly have my "Favorite Lanes" along 5 and 405.
Yeah, I think the best test in that regard is Massachusetts, sorry. The roads here are bad to the point of hilarity. I used to work for a moving company and one day driving west on 495 near Lowell we hit a hole in an overpass that went straight through. You could see the road underneath the bridge. We were pulled over for a routine truck inspection a few minutes later and told the trooper about the hole. He responded "you should tell someone about that"
I bought some S and P style seals and installed them a couple months ago. They're holding up well and have definitely improved the sound in the car.
Hey Matt- thought you’d like to know I shared this video today with a FB poster who was complaining about road noise.. as some one who absolutely loves your content, thought you’d appreciate to see how your material will continue to bring value to the world long after its initial posting! As always, thanks again for all that you do to inform the world:)
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for another great review Matt. Love the info on how we hear different frequencies and thus why the 3dB seems like a more significant change, an improvement to the car. Mine is ready to be installed tonight as I had purchased it last week. Your review made me want to put it in NOW. 😁
Nice! Thanks for watching.
Having driven a 2013 Nissan Leaf... and now a 2019 Model 3... the Leaf was WAYYYYYYYY quieter. Thanks for your video... will give this kit a try.....
Really? In the Model 3 it’s mostly road noise from the tires that I’m hearing. Curious what the differences are between the Leaf and Model 3 sound proofing.
If you have the sound files you can still run an FFT analysis to look at what specific frequencies were reduced. Free software like Audacity have the capability if you don't already have another software tool to run it.
I do ... and tried, but it wasn't a great recording. I neglected to use one of my better mics and only had audio from the built in mic on my camera.
Definitely worth the install. Although the noise reduction was minimal, the biggest benefit for me was that the doors did not allow as much dust inside.
What? Dust gets inside the car through (lack of) door seals?
yo bro!🙌 loved the graphs and how deep you got on the topic. awesome content
👍 Thanks so much and for watching!
This actually worked really well. For sure the best upgrade I’ve done so far. Inexpensive and made a huge difference.
Matt, I’m wondering what your opinion is of noise cancellation technology employed by many high end automakers and upgraded sound systems. Would seem an easy s.w. upgrade to add an on/off switch for applying noise cancellation algorithms to the upgraded Tesla stereo; especially when the stereo is not being used for music and/or podcast listening.
Wow thats the most scientific review of a door seal kit for tesla i've seen on youtube, thank you!
I found the kit to reduce high frequency noise a fair bit. Enough to make it a must-have item. However there's an opportunity to do more (acoustic glass, dampening around the glass roof, better wheel well dampening?) If you look at an Audi roof, the gaps where the sides meet the roof are completely covered. In my opinion, noise from 55-85 mph is the worst part of the Model 3.
Very clearly researched and explained - thanks Matt
Thanks!
In general, I expected EV cars to be inherently quieter due to the absence of the ICE exhaust. But I have found instead that most of the cabin noise is due to tires interacting with the road surface. In Chicago, there are constant highway resurface projects, which means that I experience cabin noise related to various surface types: new vs old tarmac, new vs old concrete, abraded vs grooved concrete. Noise due to airflow is going to be noticeable around that velocity where wind-resistance becomes greater than rolling-resistance. And that is right around your 30-40 mph zone of greatest benefit for the new moldings. Above that range, it's mostly tire noise, and the benefits of the rubber strips are reduced. My opinion (c) 2019 me.
Agree with all of that. It's the same thing in the Boston area with road surfaces. In fact, part of my drive along the Mass Pike was across grooved pavement that was ground down in preparation for new tarmac. Tire noise is the biggest culprit at highway speeds for sure.
Yup! No substiute for good sound deadening and acoutstic glass. The engine in most modern ICE cars is spinning maybe 2000 RPM or less and barely audible when cruising-- it's only audible under hard acceleration. Most all car noise (in any kind of car) is road and tire noise.
@@alliejr Speaking of glass, maybe someone could do an experiment with applying e.g. 0.5mm security film to the glass surfaces? Assuming this is legal/safe. If mine ever arrives I plan to do this at least to the small rear windows that seem to be a target for breakage. A film on the inside and outside is cheap and should make it harder to break - there's another test someone with "spare money" or a popular YT channel could try.
I have installed for my hood and rear trunk where metal is expense and also replaced my skit plate that’s padded and it’s made of aluminum. I also considered modifying my windows to double pin glass soon
It will also improve the stereo clarity
Great video. I don't understand why Tesla made the dopey decision to use a frameless window design, which is guaranteed to be both noisier and more difficult to build correctly. I know it's not a simple thing to do, but unless the decibel meter is at ear height and approximate location, you're measuring nonsense. I know you know that sound falls off quickly with distance-- 12 inches of distance matters a ton.
The measurement is not totally meaningless, but it *is* very hard to measure sound repeatably, reliably, consistently, etc. Even harder is a vehicle in a real world environment since the wind, traffic, speed, etc., can vary so much as to make the measurements largely meaningless. It's why car manufacturers use anechoic chambers to make sound measurements.
I wonder if this type of feedback will make it's way into the Model Y, i.e. better door sealing.
Tesla model 3 is a 53 000$ car here in Finland at its lowest price point . It is amazing that people are still willing to DIY sound proofing on such a premium car or that there are even sound proofing kits available.
This kind of kit is pretty easy to install and doesn't really risk causing harm to the car. As I mentioned in the video, I never thought my car over overly loud before doing the kit. This was more of an experiment for folks that may think their car is too loud. I'm guessing the vast majority of Model 3 owners won't even care or think of doing anything like this.
I got the roof-line gap filler you showed around 0:18 - or at least something similar. I didn't do any sort of audio readings, but subjectively, it seemed to provide about a 5-10mph "bump" to the noise. Meaning, when before I didn't really notice the wind noise until around 65mph, after installing I don't really notice it until around 75mph. Not really a huge thing, although it is nice because a large part of my driving is in the 65-70mph range.
Every bit helps. I've been thinking about trying that filler as a test too. Have you noticed any issues with rain or buildup around it?
Great review. I really like the way how you do the analysis from different perspectives. Thank you, Matt!
Excellent video and production quality. I like that you are covering aspects of new technology that we will be dealing with in the future.
Appreciate it.
It would be interesting to see a sound frequency analysis comparison before and after the seals are applied. The frequency range of the decibel meter would be important to know. Knowing which frequency noises the seals block would be important also.
Good call out. I do have a recording from my phone of some of the frequencies before and after, but it was difficult to discern where there was a specific change (the fault of the app I was using).
The amount of preparation and research you do for each topic you post is commendable.
Cabin noise after 1 year and 17,000 miles....some days I notice some loudness, most days I don’t.
It also depends on the type of audio I’m listening to that makes road noise more noticeable.
I am also surprised at the timing, and perhaps is something attributed to ‘conservation of comments’. Once you ran out of the important things to say, you start noticing more trivial observations. Why have comments attributed to increased cabin noise shown an increased now, could there be a car aging effect too? Is the noise from a low mileage Model 3 any different than a year old one?
Thanks for the data driven approach.
Additional thoughts.
When the car was new, we left the doors unintentionally ajar most of the time as they required more effort to properly close. Tesla said the door seals would adjust on their own and the doors would close more easily.
Does the additional foam interfere anyway with the force needed to close the doors?
Thanks so much. For me I’ve noticed that like on any car it depends heavily on the road top you’re driving on and weather conditions. Windy days make for a louder drive on the highway. Same for different types of black top. But some others have pointed out that there’s also the factor of not having engine noise. It makes it easier to focus on the road and wind noise. I haven’t noticed any change in noise level from when it was new until now, but it would be interesting to see if that’s the case with testing.
As for the foam, it’s no harder to close the doors than it was before (at least on my install).
Hey Matt - I did the Basenor seal kit (no smell) and also did before and after db tests. I noticed that tarmac quality had a bigger effect than speed difference, so my assumption is that the higher frequency wind noise is down, but "road rumble" is unchanged. I would recommend it.
I didn’t bring the tarmac issue up in the video, but agree completely. Road surface is the biggest culprit in a noisy cabin.
it's the loudest and thinnest insulated car ive been in, in a LONG time. It ROARS when going down the road. It's unfortunate, but the bulk of the noise we determined was coming through the suspension, especially in the rear. My neighbor an I installed a different, but similar kit on his car a few weeks ago. The door seals and the roof glass seals (which we also added) don't do much other than making the door a tighter fit.
Thanks for the video, that’s an interesting solution. Having driven a fair bit both with a Model 3 and a Model S this summer, the 3 does seem louder. My impression is that it’s lower frequency road noise rather than wind noise that is more noticeably loud - that could just be what my ears pick up, though the cabin got much quieter when driving over stretches of new tarmac when wind conditions didn’t really change.
It’s not that the Model 3 was uncomfortably loud, it’s just that the S is definitely quieter - subjectively I’d say it gets noticeable around 50mph, and is quite pronounced by the time you get to highway speeds in the U.K. and Finland of 70-80mph.
Not that it would deter me from getting a Model 3.
Thanks for watching! And I feel the same way about the noise in the Model 3 cabin. It's not overly loud or uncomfortable at all to me. And it really seems to be mostly coming from the lower road noise frequencies.
Hi! Great video as always - just wondering, how did the kit hold up long term? Thanks!
I installed the kit from Basenor and I can tell a difference too. Thinking about doing the seal around the glass roof next.
If you do, let me know if you think it makes a difference.
I'm curious how that would be installed.
I purchased the strip for the glass top and because it is an after market product, the front is not wide enough to stay down in the glass well. I had to use clear silicone to hold it down. I did notice a slight noise reduction once placed when driving at higher speeds.
I own a C-Max Energi. My only sound modification so far has been disabling Ford's Active Noise Cancelling system. I can't say i really notice any difference in the overall sound; aside from fixing the droning deep bass noise that would occasionally come through the speakers with Ford's ANC system.
I had a Ford Fusion Energi (great car), but didn’t have active noise cancelling on it. It’s kind of funny/sad that a noise cancelling system was actually making the noise worse.
Thanks Matt. Good you covered the dB vs dBA differences, and particularly perception across a range of frequencies. I would love a dBA test with Tesla's competitors.
Thanks! I've seen quite a few videos with folks doing DB readings like this as proof that it does or doesn't help. It's more nuanced than that. I'd also love to see a dBA test across various cars.
Hey Matt - thanks for another solid review. Have you done one on the roof seal yet?
Not yet. I probably should have done that at the same time.
I wonder if anyone installs these professionally. There are two things I don't have an abundance of: Time and Patience. lol :D
Great vid!
I still think a good quality spray on rubberized undercoating sprayed in the wheel wells will make the biggest difference. I plan on doing it to my 3 soon.
Gotta brand name I should look for?
Not onto steel? - it might trap moisture and accelerate hidden rust?
@@pault5179 I've done it for years. Even on cars and trucks from the 70s and 80s that were prone to rusting away. It is actually a rust proofing material too. The surface must be very clean before applying. If a person is worried about a DYI job, you might get a truck spray on bed liner company to do it. Properly done, it will prevent rust, not cause it.
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 Never thought of that. Interesting.
The seals are intended to run below the door drain holes. Glued surface edge flush with outer edge of door. No cutting required.
Drove Model 3 for the first time today and found road noise was not bad at all but noticible nonetheless, I'd say double door seals are always a good thing no matter what. I didn't hear hardly any wind noise so only road noise, oh and the Model 3 is absolutely amazing!
It really is an amazing car. I didn’t have any complaints over the sound in my car. I mainly did this test because I’ve seen so many people asking and writing about it. Thought it would be an interesting test.
Please make a test with the noise reduction coming from the roof? Wind etc. ?
You, and other reviewers, measure the sound from the center of the car. I would think you would get more realistic results by measuring DB levels at ear level on the driver or passengers side. I personally notice a good amount of road noise around the doors that my ear picks up. I actually have this same kit sitting in may garage (thanks go to Model 3 Man as well) and will install when I get a chance - funny any free time I have I just want to drive...
I did a cursory test holding the decibel meter in different locations and isn’t wildly different (at least between the console and head height). In the end I thought the console was good enough if I kept the placement the same between runs. I was most interested in the delta between before and after.
Agreed. I think if the meter is not at ear level and approximate position, you're measuring nothing.
@@UndecidedMF How about doing some more runs with the meter in different places? That would at least tell us if there is a placement difference even if you can't do the "before" runs again?
Hi Matt, for me I am not sure it is the noise or the fact that I feel like I feel the road the faster I go. I am sensitive to this. I applied the seals and felt like it did very little to improve the cabin noise. It does make closing the door feel a little tighter, but I did not think it was worth it. I did the sound meter and I did not see the results you saw. I really saw no noticeable improvement. I took it a step further and sound deadened the doors and wheel weels. I still did not think the road noise significantly improved. It was quite disappointing. That is why I said "I am not sure it is the noise or the fact that I feel like I feel the road the faster I go". Not sure really what the answer here is.
Thank you for that video. I would expect more differences between all these kits as I truly think the quality level is different among all. Anyway I gonna get one installed or use the raw seals and DIY ...
There probably is some difference, but for $30 and some time ... it’s a pretty low risk experiment.
Hi Matt, as regards the strip of rubber that goes round the glass roof panel: I did install this and after a couple of days got a warning error on the screen saying that the left side B pillar camera wasn't functioning because of poor visibility. I went to look at the camera and there was condensation all around the camera part of the B pillar. I waited a couple of days to see if it would clear but no so I took the seal off and the condensation cleared up immediately. I wouldn't fit one of these if you live in a damp climate or if you do be aware of this.. 👍
My take on noise in the Model 3 is this. Some days I drive down the road at various speeds and care barely hear any noises. Other days, I hear lots of noises. After installing whatever noise reductions kits that are out there I never noticed a difference in noise. Most of the noise comes from the mirrors and tires. Not much can be done about those so just drive it and stop worrying about cabin noise. ty
My recommendation for road collation best bet is to put on AC/DC High way to hell 1/3 volume and she'll be right mate 🐨.Enjoy driving your Model 3s.
Ment to be (cancellation) .
I recently test drove a model3, I found the noise from wind and tyres unacceptable. In addition the lack of speedometer in front of the driver a major safety fault. The need to take your eyes of the road for to long a major safety fault. The use of a head up display as used in some lexus models would be a major improvement. The lack of a deep, ie height, boot was the final nail in my deciding to not order one.
The speedometer on the screen isn’t a safety issue at all. In fact, there are other cars with speedometers in the center of the console and not in front of the driver. It didn’t take me too long to get used to glancing diagonally down vs. straight down to see the speed. And I’ve actually found myself not speeding as much because the car puts the speed limit right next to your current speed. It’s pretty nice. And when driving with Autopilot, there’s no need to even glance at the speed at all.
I have a BMW 3 series, I wonder what the decibel levels are from the Tesla model 3 compared to the BMW 328i. Great video Matt! Nice seeing the Mass pike again, lol.
It's interesting that some vendors of the kit do not actually include the seal for the side of the front door, in my case I bought a kit that includes the seal for the bottom of the front doors, the kit you bought shows the seal going from the outer side (top) coming down and all the way on the bottom.
Also, the kit I bought states to add the seal on the B pillar (rear door) but on the inside of the front, not the outside...
Interesting. There are several companies with kits like these, but I’d bet they all achieve about the same level of improvement.
I'd love to see a comparison to the BMW 3-series, 330i as it is the entry level 3-series and also M3 because it is what can match the Model 3 in terms of acceleration
I did this 2 weeks ago. Definitely worth it.
Take a look at Tesla Bjorn. He has a series of different sound proofing videos. He had professionally sound proofing done on his m3 as well. It may be that the choice of sound deadening tires will be the most effective thing you can do to alleviate sound in the car cabin.
I believe the latest M3 now has double glazed windows with improvements made in reducing wind noise. I suspect Tesla will address this issue even further with progressive model updates.
Very good explanation! Thanks.
Sun blind covers supposed to help as well
Great Video, each one doesn't have to be a full scientific trial. Although having a link to the charts or data to review wouldn't hurt :)
Good video! Any issue with doors not closing as well?
Not with mine - they close more solidly. You do have to "follow through" though.
None.
I'd like to see a decibal result from a BMW 3 series.
Learn some German and you can get all the german car data you care about
Matt - Would love to see a segment on tires for your Tesla Model 3. I just had to replace my original OEM tires and found the options a bit disappointing.
Good suggestion.
I just don't get this being a hot issue. I came from owning a Mercedes Benz to a Model 3 RW LR and find the Tesla much quieter than the Mercedes was. Also, I always drive with the radio on since it is the best sound system I have had in any car I have owned.
I'm kind of in the same boat. The noise of the car doesn't bother me at all, but I know a lot of people that are bothered by the wind/road noise. I think part of it is the lack of engine noise that's drawing more attention to it, but the M3 also doesn't have as much sound proofing as some other cars in its class.
Considering the Merc is gas powered (along with all the associated mechanical noise and vibration) it isn't really surprising you'd find an electric vehicle quieter.
@@nsw72 I've owned a ton of Mercs. Except for the SLK (a sports car), they were all dead quiet.
Rode in a tesla 3...im a hyperacusis sufferer, and the noise was terrible ! Had to wear noice cancel. Rode in a mercedes on the way back, and it was quiet.
I have a 2005 Volvo S80 2.4 Litre diesel. There is almost no engine noise and very little road noise at constant speed. I wonder how much better or worse the Model 3 is to my current vehicle. I have a Model 3 on order.
I’d be interested in seeing more car by car sound comparisons myself. Subjectively I don’t find the M3 any louder than any other car I’ve owned, but I haven’t driven an S80.
Hey Matt, I am curious if the kit helps to keep the door panels cleaner. I am surprised by how dirty the doors are when washing the car.
Yes, that does make a difference.
I usually use my audio system to drown out the external noise haha
The only time it is REALLY noticeable is if I am listening to an audiobook and then hit 70-80 MPH on the freeway. If music is on, the change is hard to notice.
Im a little worried that the plastic is digging deeper into the glass especially around the corners. Been using the kit for 6 months... should I be worried if it could damage the glass? Also the plastic membrance below seems to more exposed now around the middle also...
Wow, you make some great videos. Well done Matt.
👍 Thanks so much!
My M3 sounds like a gas vehicle is passing me on the left... owait, that's just me hearing the maniac going 15mph over the speed limit driving by.
Only time I really dislike the road noise is if a bag gets caught under my car or I'm going over certain bridges that are just louder than the rest of the road.
The lack of a manual is maddening. I’m not sure whether I got the rear doors reversed or not, with the thick part on the outside edge, or inset. The front door seems no quieter when shutting yet, I saw one video where the thick part was placed over the drainage hole, (cut out of course), and the red dragon had his over the bottom lip so the flap extended below the bottom of the door. It’s unclear if it’s sealing at all, or contacting the frame at all. Before I do the other side, thoughts? Should I buy a new kit and redo it?
After I installed the door seals, it’s noticeably harder to close the doors. Will this loosen up overtime?
Can you test the Abstract Ocean roof seal kit next? It's $20. Thanks.
Several people have asked about it ... probably going to try that out.
@@UndecidedMF I've seen some pictures online of the roof seal gasket working its way into the existing roof glass gaskets so much that it may be an issue. Just wanted to make you aware.
I had one of those roof glass seals installed. I got a crack in the glass later. I don't think the seal was the cause because I had gotten a similar carck in the glass just after delivery of my new car. After the initial crack Tesla replaced the glass for free. But after the second crack Tesla refused to replace the glass for free claiming it was due to the aftermarket seal. The negligible benefits of the sound damping is not worth the potential expense of a broken glass rood panel. Beware.
Dont have a telsa but as always great video
Thanks for watching, Damion.
Love your videos!
I installed this kit before seeing you had posted a video on it! Impulse Amazon 'recommend' buy after also getting hard plastic mud flaps for the 3. Did you consider the glass roof rubber seals? The kit did not come with those. I am keen to find out if they have real world dB improvements! I figured since your ears are so close to the roof, it may have a bigger impact.
I just think you notice the noise for the first time, in the absence of an engine. The clock ticking in my room doesn't bother me, so long as the ceiling fan is on. As soon as I'm in a silent room, the quietly ticking clock will drive me mad, even though it's been there the whole time.
That is very true. The lack of engine noise is part of the puzzle.
Hey Elon, Bose invented a noise-canceling system for your car
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Interesting. Curious if combining this with the rubber roof gasket will make it even quieter?
Was thinking the same thing too.. I have the roof gasket. Let us know if you try this and find some difference.
@@AzeezGauravSwarup I'm curious, how is that roof gasket installed? Interior or exterior?
@@alliejr exterior. It's not easy.
Hi there, It’s my first time getting a Tesla, i got the Model Y, first EV actually, I’m hearing some sound it’s as if it’s a car window left open, while the rest are closed, that annoying noise that has a pressure like quality to the ears. Is that what a wind noise is? Thanks.
Do you think the adhesive will last a year from now?
I do. The adhesive with adhesive promoter was extremely sticky.
Hi Matt, I see your in Mass as well. Is there a users group that you know of in Western Mass?
Road noise has not been a problem for me ,I guess all my cars before were just that loud
All EVs are generally very quiet. Wind noise is more noticeable in EVs because it's less masked by engine noise. Google "auditory masking" for more info.
The noise is NOT subjective. It is LOUD! I’m a M2 owner and the noise in my model 3 sounded like a 10 yr old accord. Absolutely need to get kits to reduce the noise but the question is, wtf the car is allowed to leave the factory with this much noise? It’s a 40k+ car...
Let us know how much time are they going to last...it doesnt look like a high quality product. Congrats on your channel from Spain
Thanks, Miguel! I will ... the rubber actually feels pretty good and not that different from what’s on the car from the factory. Hopefully it lasts as long. I’d be happy with 5+ years for the $30 I spent.