Is a Tesla Model 3 Worth it After 200,000 Miles?
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2022
- Since March 2018 I have put on just over 200,000 mi on my LR Tesla Model 3.
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You've captured some wonderful scenery and I know that you have personally seen a lot more than what you were able to share, thanks for the time and effort you put forth!
Appreciate not only the objective numbers, but also the great footage which takes a lot of effort to create and edit!
please kill the music when you talk. otherwise thanks for the info
At least dial down the volume alittle please! It was a great video though
Plus a closer mic would help a ton
I had that same car, but upgraded to a model Y. Have to say that the new heat pump is absolutely fantastic! Get super hot air with very little battery usage, where before, you could watch the battery drop like crazy.
The heat pump would definitely have been helpful this last winter.
New model 3s also have the new heat pump. Fantastic thing
@@racecrashrepeat Have a '22 and the Ryzen processor, heated steering wheel, heated wipers, heat pump and 360 mile range are epic. Glad I waited at the end of '21 to recieve!
“Upgraded" to a Model Y?! Down-graded is more like it! ; ) t. soon-to-be M3 owner.
@@AI-Driven-Entrepreneur lol I ordered end of 21 as well and got the 22 updates with ryzen without expecting it. So happy with the car.
Great video. Love the scenic travels. Keep up the great work and enjoy life. Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to more 💪🏼👍🏼👏🏼
Those are some awesome pictures of different locations. Thanks
Nice video! Glad I found you! Waiting on my MYLR. I am so excited!
Thanks for sharing your experience! Loved seeing some of the places you've driven too. I've got 25K on my exactly 1 year old 22 M3LR, looking forward to handing it down to my kids in a few years. Perhaps move up to an S or Cyber truck in then.. :)
Nicely made video! Beautiful scenery and very informative.
Just watched your 115k review video then this one. Very informative and well made, thank you! My 2020 LR has 18k miles right now but I hope some day to hit 200k+ like you!
Your numbers seem pretty accurate to me.
I calculated the fuel savings alone for my 2011 LEAF and found it saved about $1,000 for every 10,000 miles driven. So that would mean a fuel savings of about $20,000 for you. The Model 3 is more efficient than the LEAF so you might have seen a tad bit more in savings. Your final number is based on many other savings such as maintenance which adds up quickly.
Insurance....
@@10PercentForTheBigGuy Tesla's are reasonable to insure. They have a lot of safety features which reduces the premium.
Really good analysis. I see a lot of these type of videos and a lot of them try to bias the data one way or the other, but I thought you did a good job keeping it objective.
Your mileage is respectable, I've had my long range RWD since May 2018 and I have 109,000 miles. Can't imagine logging another 91k in the same time period.
109,000 is a lot of driving!
Well stated my friend.. I love my M3P. Hands down. Best car I've owned.
Thanks for the content! Just got my first Tesla a week ago. I adore it.
I do agree with other comments, please just reduce the music in the background. I want to hear all you say a bit better. Thanks again!!
Great video! Format and outline was 👍🏼
Great video man!
I am from Brasil and just receive my BYD SEAL and love it.
Safety is a huge one for me. There’s no other factory car like a Tesla when it comes to safety.
Honda and any German car would like to speak with you.
@@JayAR_YT And let me guess Volvo? :)
@@JayAR_YT I think safety wise Tesla ranks higher than Honda and the Germans coming close to Volvo.
@@JayAR_YT Tesla ranks higher actually lol
Great video, love my Model Y and know I am going to keep it for a long time.
One note about battery capacity. The model 3 has a 3KWh reserve once it hits "0%". This means your actual battery capacity is more like 67.78KWh or 90.3% of the factory capacity.
Good to know!
It's actually 3.3kWh
@@TheStopwatchGod ummm actually it 3.33333333kW repeating of course.
Nah, actually it is roughly 3.14KW give or take
Awesome vid bro!
Thx. Good review. 200k impressive over 4 years. You took it to a lot of very beautiful places. I have 2018 June lrm3 and love love my car. Would be hard to consider another brand & car as my experience has been wonderful with the lrm3.
Very well done video :) I still love my Dec 2016 Model S 75D that I bought after retiring from the USAF at 38 as an E-6. I had a financial reason to buy it as well, but my job situation changed a few months after taking delivery and my commute went from 90 miles a day to 2.8 miles a day in Bay Area traffic. So now I only have 29,495 miles on it total, free supercharging for life of car, and little over 2 years on battery warranty that was also for unlimited miles. It also has full self driving if it ever gets released.
I still love driving it and want to go across country again, it was such a great trip.
Nice pictures and well done with the analysis. I find that my 2019 model 3 SR+ has deteriorated a little more than I expected. When I picked it up in August 2019, it had a max range of 250. I think it now has a max range of 235 which, if my calculations are correct, equates to a 6% decrease in range in 2 1/2 years. At one point, shortly after getting the car, the max range was supposed to have increased to 260 but I never saw that.
That said, the Model 3 remains the best car I've ever owned and the most fun to drive. I'm getting just under 30,000 miles on the tires but then again, I have so much fun accelerating and cornering here in the mountains of western NC, that I would expect tires to be used up more than a regular ICE vehicle.
I know this reply is super late, but I just came across this video. Car and Driver did a 40,000 mile long term test on a 2019 Model 3. They stated that they had about 6% degradation by 20,000 miles, but then didn't have any degradation after that through 40,000 miles. It would be interesting to know if yours has followed a roughly similar curve?
Great video! I have a 2018 Model 3 and haven't cracked 50k miles yet lol. I should start taking more road trips
Thinking about switching from my 4Runner to a used 18 or 19 Model 3 LR. I drive around 250 miles a day for work throughout Georgia and Alabama. I will charge at home mostly, but will probably have to use superchargers for my longer days. Would it be worth it, or a pain in the ass? Also my work pays me by the mile, and not for gas.
@@CodyB2725 If work pays by mile it is no brainer.
Great video and thanks for sharing! I’m pretty sure my LR RWD Model 3 will outlive me. I plan to keep it for the rest of my life. I’m curious how your seats have held up? Are you considering to have them reupholstered at some point? Also, you didn’t mention anything about the 12V battery. Did you have to replace it?
You know what I did. I preemptively replace it at 160k for $115.
You may have to replace the battery at least a couple of times.
@@VoyageWithoutCarbon Smart. I replaced mine preemptively at 2 years old and will do so again this October.
Oh re:seats... The driver seat is a little rough in the lower back. not horrible but definitely worn. The rest are still fantastic but of course have gotten exponentially less use.
By the way I really enjoyed the video - helped by your excellent production.
Thanks!
It would take me 10 years to reach 200,000 miles. Thanks for an informative video. You can keep the music sir.
Great video. Well done. Subscribed.
Had that same spec car - fantastic car - now have a red MYP!
Great video!
Amazing! Love all the beautiful places you’ve been with your model 3! Just curious, how come you had to replace two of your front control arms? I knew there was a recall on those not sure if they are related?
They started squeaking. I’ve heard it was a common thing with the earlier 3s. Didn’t know they ended up recalling them.
@@VoyageWithoutCarbon there is no recall on the upper control arm noisy ball joints. Just a technical service bulletin that tells the technicians to seal around the ball joint if your car happens to be in service for something else. The sealant is supposed to keep moisture out of the joint.
No recall on the control arms. There's a technical service bulletin, not the same thing. www.nhtsa.gov/recalls
Great video thank you very much, i’m just hitting 50 K on my model three
that some beautiful scenery
There’s a current recall over the trunk wire harness getting frayed. You should see if they will compensate you for that repair.
That’s a good idea
@@VoyageWithoutCarbon - Tesla has issued refunds for people who had to previously pay for repairs that later became recall items. They should definitely refund you!
Interesting channel name "Voyage without Carbon". Carbon is the fundamental element for life on this planet. Without carbon you're not going to be making any voyage with your two legs.
Great video. With gas prices being around double in the UK the savings add up quicker. Plus you missed the resale value of a Tesla over a gas car which will be $$$s more in savings.
Correct. One should subtract resale price to arrive at TCO. depreciation is a true cost.
True Petrol much more expensive, but Electricity per KWh (~USD0.30/kwh) is double or triple the US (~USD0.12/kwh) , and UK has a Road tax on EV yes? that makes less of advantage
@@pablopicaro7649 The UK has a road fund license for all cars, I thought EV's got an exception but that may have expired. Electricity tariffs can be advantageous, time of use discounts for example can make charging an EV even cheaper. Solar adds miles at no extra cost.
We can play what if all day. As always YMMV
@@pablopicaro7649 Hey good point about the Electricity cost difference but no UK road tax yet for EVs. We can also have cheap night time electric tariffs which really helps, not sure if that's an option in the US?
@@pablopicaro7649 Depends on the country and your situation. I charge only at home unless on a road trip. I have solar panels on my roof. Almost all my charging is during the day when it is sunny. Worst case is I lose what I would get as a feed-in tariff for my generation - less than the equivalent of 5 US cents per KWh, or around $US3.50 for a full charge, which gets me around 500 kms range. Can't get close to that with ICE car.
Very interesting. To determine the overall cost of ownership you would need subtract the current value of the car.
his 2nd hand Model3 is probably worth more than he bought it for now!
@@henrytkliao not with 200000km on the clock
@@henrytkliao with 200,000 miles? Get real
@@mattbrew11 Update : "This car recently got totaled by a rear end accident and I was given $45k by insurance." Tesla's are fantastic at retaining their value.
@@quickdropz your insurance company made a gigantic mistake. There are 175+ 2018 model 3s within a 3 hr drive of me for $26-28k
Great data but if you drive till the car stops you'll probably get a few more kwh from the battery. So 13% is likely high.
Great video and new subscriber!
The way I think of degradation after owning a Model 3 has changed.
Max range is kinda meaningless because I almost never have found myself needing to drive over 180 miles with no chargers available.
All I really care about is can I make it from home/supercharger to supercharger/destination without having to spend a long time charging.
Gas or ICE I seem to never be able to make more than 90 to 130 miles avg between stops (pee break for wife/kids) on a road trip.
Seeing as that is about how close SC are in most cases (not all but getting there), that frequency of stopping means by the time the pee break is done and I've strapped the kids in again its probably time to leave.
I'd expect that even with 20% degradation as long as fast charging speed is still good that I won't really notice the degradation on a road trip.
Max rated range isn't a meaningless number. Folks want to know their battery is holding up and isn't a lemon. Important if you plan on keeping a car for a good number of years.
@@SunriseLAW I really don't think I'd like that.
I have a feeling that swap times would take about as long as charging in the best of times.
I'd expect that it would also cost more and you'd spend more time waiting since there's likely to be only 1 swap bay at a lot of places, and it would probably would need a live human to supervise.
@@SunriseLAW People think they want swappable packs because they believe a lot of things about EVs that are simply not true of today's EVs.
People still think that a road trip in an EV requires charging stops that last 4-6 hours every time you stop to charge.
People still think every EV requires a new battery pack every 2-3 years of ownership.
Hot swapping is an unnecessary complication. Fast charging just works. High capacity packs with active thermal management will last far longer than most people think they will.
@@SunriseLAW Doesn't mitigate anything. Just makes it cost more for no good reason
Honestly a hot swap is the sort of thing the mfgs might try to foist on people just so that they can tie it to an ongoing subscription because you'll own nothing and be happy.
I get around 450 miles range and on long trips we usually stop around 350 miles of travel to not go too low on gas
Thanks!
There also should be a 3-4KWh buffer in the battery that's not usable. From what I have seen you take that number out when calculating how much it's degraded. It should be more like 72KWh usable and not 75, that would give closer to 89% of the original usable capacity left.
Great video
Something I think you are missing is the current value of you car vs purchase price. The pick ANY ICE car for comparison of value at the $200k mark. 🤯
Have 70k on mine, tires only.
No maintenance! Drive on👍🏼
Are you buying EV tires or just regular tires? I'm still on my stock tires with my 2022 Model Y with 34K miles on them, if I rotated more often I'd be good probably to 50k if not a little more but I've only rotated once so the now front tires probably have 5k left in them but the rears (previous fronts) are good.
For cracked rims you can just bring your wheels to a wheel shop, they will reform and weld your wheels to brand new for maybe 100$/wheel
In terms of total ownership costs, Tesla doesn't seem to beat Prius or Camery. I believe my Prius is %60 cheaper cost maintaining the car.
If I'm not mistaken, Tesla update the range of the LR to 325 miles, even for the older cars, so degradation calculated by both you and Tesla match quite well.
True! That's a good way to look at it.
I also have a 2018 LR rwd and remember the updates. I remember one for sure but vaguely remember two. My service center says the update was only to 315 so either there was only one or they took one back. It’s a mystery to me.
That's very good 👍
Supercharging is 3x more expensive in the UK but here your insurance would pay for the fender. Even so $3k supply and fit is 2 or 3x what I’d expect to pay.
UNITS!!! Kilowatt-Hour, not Kilowatt. Great video though!! I only have 40k on my model 3, so this is inspiring
0:35....how did you get that screenshot? is it a map of all the places in North America you have stopped for charging? Is there an app to generate that map? lol
There is no content on RUclips about the unpaved / bad condition roads. Would be great to see your experience and your footage in a video.
great review thanks....fellow musician
Consider lexani or Achilles tires. $80 each and work great for me.
Where did you get those upper control arms for that expensive price. Mines were 400$ something both. But they were actually good, i have a problem with lower control arms. And i have 262000km on my tesla m3. It's in Canada. Because that's actually factory defect they cover the labourer cost. And trunk wire was replaced fir free
Awesome video! Did you also do any exterior mods like PPF? Also, no air filter changes or brake fluid? tesla recommend to change these things.
No exterior mods.
Re:air filter, I’ve taken it out and cleaned where it goes a few times but have never replaced it. Most people I know replace it when it starts to smell and mine hasn’t.
I’ve neglected the brake fluid due to one pedal drving but I should probably change it.
Hey there good to see you here pretty cool video yeah?
@@MrBasszilla Dont bother with the brake fluid. I checked mine at 100K and its still new looking.
Thanks for the video. My 2018 long range model three with 118k miles indicates 278 miles at 100%
I’ve thought about getting a Tesla, but then I worry about it lasting as long as a Toyota
@@Ghost-jy9hk If you drive a lot it’s hard to beat Electric. I’ve saved over $450 this month.
@@brentftaylor but that’s charging at home right? I can’t do that. It would be superchargers for me
@@Ghost-jy9hk Yes. That’s mostly at home charging at 8 cents KWh. Even if the cost were equal to gas I’d still drive electric. The driving experience is so much better.
@@brentftaylor what’s better about it?
When is the new mileage update video voyage??
Great video! I wish everyone had this information about Teslas, because they truly are the greatest cars ever built! Not only that, fun to drive, with lots of torque. Why wouldn’t you buy one, if you can afford one??
I chose not to buy one after examining the lousy panel gaps and ill fitting interior trim on the new Model 3 I looked at almost 3 years ago. I'd also watched Sandy Munro's video, where his organisation reverse engineered a Model 3. In addition to that, I'd also read comments on Tesla forums - from actual Tesla owners - complaining about the crappy customer after sales service. Plus I wasn't convinced I wanted to be part of Elon Musk's ego trip. I chose to go with a Kia eNiro instead, and over 2 years later, I don't regret it at all. Sorry, but there it is....
There is no Tesla I would buy. Tesla does not have a utility vehicle that I would want. They are all sedans. Is there a Tesla that can go where my Subaru Outback can go? NO. Is that enough of an answer?
@@georgesealy4706 yes, that’s enough. A Tesla isn’t for everyone. Thanks for sharing your opinion because it seems like you needed to tell everyone. Fortunately for shareholders, you’re just one person, and there aren’t many of you. In statistics, we call that “an outlier.”
@@TomTom-cm2oq Well, you asked the question.
@@Brian-om2hh Yeah, Elon is letting his ego get in the way. He funded the Tesla startup with his Paypal money (but he was not part of the original engineering or even subsequent I would guess, he likes to pretend or let others assume he was) He finally bought the whole company, also Tesla got 1/2 billion dollar loan from government (and helped by tax subsidies for buyers) (Tesla has paid back the gov loan) There is a good YT video on the carbon footprint (versus ICE/Hybrids), and at 200K miles it might be break even at best. And why ? Because most electrical energy produced in US is not green and Tesla car production has higher initial carb foot print (that might/should ??? come down in time). It is strange that other car companies have struggled with EV somewhat. I have been looking at EVs but I'm still evaluating.
great video
Mann I’m 22 and recently got a 2021 Honda Accord for 40k which was ridiculous. I’m understanding now that was the biggest mistake I could’ve made so I’m giving the car back more so selling it and i will stack my money making it longer than the Golden Gate Bridge and buy my Model 3 flat out in the next 5-6 years. I’ll be 27-28-29 then and hopefully they’ll have many updated features and more efficient components then what it has to offer now, this car imo outweighs any car costing the same in its class for what you get
200k is amazing. Did you need to change Brake Pads or Rotors ? Not sure if you did or I missed it in the video.
Nope. Original brakes and rotors still going strong. One pedal driving means I go 95% of my drives without hitting the brakes.
4:43 Thats an amazing picture! did you take that yourself, it looks phenomenal with the starship as the backdrop of the photo!
Yes Sir! I took that the morning before the SN10 Launch
Ty for the content!
For fun, anybody else hear him say he was rear ended but it was self inflicted =b we need elaboration.
I am not sure if I'll be with my battery pack that long, I would love to upgrade to lfp chem and or 4680 cells down the line, who knows what the future will hold.
I put that in the "self inflicted" category because it wasn't related to wear and tear and I'm still fighting the guys insurance to get reimbursed.
I would also like to upgrade to the 4680 but who knows. With the current wait times for a new M3 there may be something even better coming not long after I would get the car!
@@VoyageWithoutCarbon that makes sense, better another car than one of the animals you were near.
Best of luck with getting the insurance issue fixed my friend.
Definitely will be interesting seeing where r&d takes us and see if an aftermarket will come about and offer different battery pack options.
This is incredible. I'm at 162k now.
Side note, if you paid for that trunk wire harness, it ended up being a recall and they refunded me for the cost I paid before it was a recall. My upper control arms only costed me $92 each.
Have you ever had to replace the main batteries ever?
@@hagaras82030 also curious about this^^
Good question
Thanks for sharing your story. My biggest question is what will a new battery pack cost when it needs replacement. How many years will the battery last before it needsd replacement?
Current prices are $5-7k but no one has had to replace one yet so I’m not really sure.
Tesla says the 2170s in the 3 should last 500k mi.
The high voltage battery will outlast the rest of the car
I started listening and was interested in what you had to say, but stopped because of the background music. The only thing it adds is distraction and annoyance.
I think you deserve a refund on the trunk wire harness. There is a recall out on that one now.... So get your $294.14 back.
Any new video updates in the model 3 mileage?
nice video and verry well explained, BUT ... what about the amount of time you spent charging? You allready stated that you used the superchargers more often then charging at home, so, time is money they say ... what about the time lost? Did you took that into consideration? what was the amount of time spent?
Great point! Hundreds of hours for me. Luckily I do a majority of work from my computer so I utilized that time to get stuff done but your average person may not be able to make the time as well spent.
There are a few factors I think need to be taken into account when thinking about charging and the time wasted/utilized, If you are a person that needs to use superchargers a lot.
1. Are you planning your trip to where you may have to stop more by charging to a lower % but end up saving more time in the end by faster charge speeds when %is lower? If you keep your charge between 10-70% you usually only need to stop for 15/20 min which is the perfect amount of time for a pee break and grab a cup of coffee which takes up most of the charge time. A more enjoyable experience IMO than holding it for hundreds of miles till a tank of gas is empty.
2. How much time is usually wasted scrolling through a phone on a couch at home? This simply replaces that couch time. Not sure if most would replace the time or just still scroll as much at home.
But in reality, yes. Charging on a road trip can add hours to a normal drive and that may not be acceptable to a lot of people.
Gotta get the smaller wheels and the Goodyear Maxlife tires on the M3
Tesla has hidden energy buffer, so the % shown for what you use is not exactly what is left in the battery.
So 8% degradation is probably more accurate number.
Since it's non-linear, you should be good for at least 600k before you hit 20%.
I have a 21 MY. Just hit 50k. Tires, rotation and wiper fluid so far is all I needed. Had it since 3/21 so 20 months roughly. Sold my 2015 Chevy quad cab Silverado and my 2005 Mazda 3 commuter and didn't look back . Would love an S or the Cyber Truck next. The biggest question I get is the battery and the mining of cobalt in countries where they are paid 1.00 a day to send kids down a small hole to extract it. Solar and wind may not be enough to sustain this. Did you hear about the Gov of California pushing EVs then only to tell us not to charge for a whole weekend due to the power grid? It still has a long way to go before its really 100% green. We are still burning fossil fuels to charge my friend so that weighs on my mind. Oh, and what happens with the battery when its not of any use? I heard there is a separate plant/facility Tesla is making just for the recycling as there are some resources that can be reused.
Still have the same car? We need an update lol
Good review! Teslas are the future!
I was thinking if there’s a 75 kW battery, how much of it was usable out of the box? Maybe 73? At most,So degradation seems very minimal
Usable capacity out of the box is a bit of a moving target, it was around 72-78kwh according to a few different sources for this year and model, so 75kwh usable is a good estimate to go by. It's not really clear why some cars had more or less usable capacity when measured.
If I understand correctly the nominal (total) capacity of the pack is is 79.5kwh, that is 5ah 2170 cells at 3.6v nominal voltage, times the number of cells in the battery pack, 4416, equals 79.5.
@@yeslawrence wow great info thank you
just curious, how did you come up with the 46kwh number? Is that how much it said on your screen after you were done recharging? On my car at least, the amount of kwh added during a charge session vs percentage/SOC increase can vary kind of a lot.
It was the kWh used since last charge after a trip starting at 100%
@@VoyageWithoutCarbon it seems the only totally accurate way to check battery degradation would be to fully charge and discharge the pack and measure the kw's, but that's not realistic for the majority of the people. And even then other things like temperature could affect the results.
just for reference, we have a 2018 M3 LR with 41k miles, and our app right now says 289 miles for a 100% charge, and we do very little supercharging so your 287 is not bad at all!
But our 289 number does jump around a bit based i think on ambient temps and how we drive, I've seen it as high as 297 recently and as low as 260 a while back.
Bravo to a great video btw, can't wait to join the 200k club or even just the 100k club lol
@@yeslawrence
I'm not so sure I trust that number really. Code changes, calibration issues, temperature, and probably changes to what the 'reserve' capacity is all seem to affect it.
We have 2020 AWD model
Nearest I can figure 320 might have been what it shown when we picked it up. I didn't think about it at the time and I always have kept it on % unless I specifically wanted to look at the number.
First time I ever charged to 100% was after about 5-8k miles and it showed 308
In Oct 2020 it showed 305 at 100%
Dec 2020 it showed 290 at 100%
Through most of 2021 it showed between 275 to 280(extrapolated)
Oct 2021 I charged to 100% again after driving to 1 or 2 miles remaining(thought maybe it might re-calibrate the cells) and it showed 287
As of today its back to showing 290 (extrapolated) with 27k miles on the odometer.
At the end of the day even if it dropped to 200 miles I can still get everywhere I want to go, even on trips so it doesn't really seem to matter much.
@@dorvinion yes, agreed, I don't ttly trust it either. Some ppl actually call it the GOM, aka guessometer lol. btw, my lifetime watt hours per mile is 253 for reference. BUT, i have quite a bit of driving in below freezing temps which drags the average down. In moderate temps my average is more like 232 wh per mile. Even still, I would have expected that after 200k miles it would generally show a lower range on Arthur's car.
When I first saw my range number jump around a bit I called tesla support because I was concerned something might have been awry with the battery pack but the ranger checked out our car and everything was good.
One thing I stumbled across that seems to have helped or maybe it was a software update, hard to tell for sure, i started charging at L1 speeds, yep, 12a @120v every once in a while and my range numbers have been more stable since regardless of my wh per mile.
@@yeslawrence 289wH/mi lifetime for us.
We live in a small town and get real winters so many of our winter drives are short (1-4 miles at a time 2-4 times a day) we end up with 400-450wH/mi a lot of days in winter.
Plus the ap you used during the boring highway driving.
That’s a lot of things to fix, I had a 2001 Honda Civic with 206,742 miles only one part replaced for $14(not counting tires and brakes ). I’m keeping my 2014 Honda Civic that’s paid off and gets 34mpg109,000 miles zero parts replaced so far.
Not to mention the price of the car . Ev cost to much compared to gas and ev owners seem to not mention that part. Plus you can get deals when you shop for gas cars but not on ev .
@@chip_stack I was slightly excited to hear that Ford was offering an EV F150 for $41,000. Of course I went to the dealers and all they had was the new electric trucks for $97,000. It would be 2-3 years before I could order a base model. In 2-3 years battery technology will be much better and range further but then of course prices will go up and it will be hard to buy.
@@charlieb308 so true. Sucks that there is so much difference between the advertised price and real price
What size engine is it plus is it petrol or diesel plus what was the part that needed replacing
Thanks for your video. I also plan on keeping my ME LR for a very, very long time. What is/are the quietest tires you'd recommend other than the OEM Michelin tires that came with it? I'll definitely look at that P7 you showed.
TBH I’ve never used anything besides the OEMs and the P7s besides my winter tires which are P Zero Winters
In California a Kilowatt is 28 cents or more so that really changes the savings profile.
A new LR M3 with a 350m Range and 82 kWh battery would use .23 kWh per mile meaning a $.28 kWh cost for 200,000 mi would be 12,880
Imagine if you had bought Tesla stock instead of your Tesla 4 years ago.
The tread warranty doesn't really save any money, you just replacement them more often.
How does one calculate total cost over period of $85K, then say it would be $30K more for an equivalent ICE vehicle over same 200K test period? Granted, fuel prices are hitting record highs at this time, so did you use gas prices which existed over your test, which would have been closer to $2.00 a gallon verses near $4.79 now? So I would be interested in knowing how you speculated that the ICE comparison would have been $30K more? I would enjoy knowing how this was calculated, or was it just your expectation?
IRS estimates $0.58 per mile for cost of an average vehicle.
@@VoyageWithoutCarbon The IRS estimate will assume depreciation - i.e. subtracting the current resale value of the car at the end of the 3 years and amortising it over the miles travelled. So you should subtract the current value of your Tesla from the total cost for an apples to apples comparison.
I keep thinking about getting a model 3 for my Mom - 100% for the safety factor - forgetting about carbon footprint or anything else - the safety factor is what I care about most (she is kinda nutty, and I worry about her driving) - of course, for myself - the Cybertruck will be my permanent switch away from fossil fuel vehicles - my “learn to fix or build anything “ hobby means I must have a truck at all times ~ hmmm, maybe I am the nutty one?
those are a lot of parts needing replacement that shouldn't have. hope current build quality is better.
Get a reimbursement for your trunk harness repair, that's a recall item.
Awesome
How is your black paint around the wheels? Does it look like snow with the white colour underneath after that many miles?
Around the wheels looks fine but I have a decent amount of pitting on the front hood.
An update would be nice
I think you have assumed that the value of your car is $0.
In today's market I think your car is worth $25k so that should be subtracted from your total cost?
You’re right. I assume it’s somewhere between $20-$25k.
I didn’t subtract that mostly because it’s potential money back opposed to actual money saved.
40k bud
Ouch, the maintenance may not seem too high to you but to me it seems high. Also, the TCO calculation should subtract the current value of the car. That said, my tco (prius) is roughly $.10 per mile with gas @$3… $.12 at $4 etc. EV’s will make more sense for average families when the initial cost drops below $30k for a civic/corolla level car and when charge points are more available.
I have a 2020 M3 SR+ with 83K miles. The only maintenance cost to me have been a new set of tires ($1000) at 80K miles, a set of windshield wipers ($25), windshield wiper fluid ($25) and a 12V battery ($114). Tire rotations are free at Discount Tires. All in all I can’t complain. Much cheaper to maintain my M3 than my previous ICE comutter cars
this gives me confidence i just purchased this exact car. may i drive many many miles more all this out of a car that can smoke a c5 corvette
You wrap up the summary saying “yeah so basically nothing went wrong” after a laundry list of repairs and expenses… to be fair most cars would need a catalytic converter by now.
You need to check out vredestein quatrac tires for the 3
I got 55k miles and I expect another year it has 6/32nd crossclimate 2 I always drive it on chill mode
Do you still recommend model 3? Thanks.