@@Jamesandkate this videos a bunch of bullshit lol its had dozens of times and they're the most expensive thing to replace the fact you've had to replace the control arms something u never have to replace ice vehicles proves its a piece of shit, struts yes control arms no lol.
So apart from 15 oil filters, 15 gallons of oil, 7 air filters 3 fuel filters, a dual mass flywheel, 2 diesel particular filters, an EGR valve, 3cam belts, 4 sets of brake pads and 2 sets of discs. My faithful diesel hasn't needed anything. (Sarcasm). Great video, not only did it show just how good the Model 3 is, they have been continuously making improvements to the build quality since that particular car was built.
That’s the thing. I’m a technician of over 30 years, so fully understand the realism of running an ICE car. You’re one of the few people who are honest about it. Thanks 🙏
I recently sold a BMW 320d for £500 at 180k miles, after spending thousands on maintenance and repairs. Plus if you charge overnight off peak you stand to save around £20k in fuel over 200k miles compared to an economical diesel, or north of £30K compared to a performance saloon like an M3. When you consider a new LFP model 3 costs the same to buy as a new 320d, it's a no brainer on cost alone.
High praise indeed James, especially for a Fremont built car. I didn’t think the Septics had it in them, but clearly they have done something right! Cracking car and review!
My 2021 Fremont Model Y has no quality issues, they big problems were in the initial orders before Tesla was able to get more manufacturing experience.
Thank you, this is the type of feed back that people want to hear. A trusted mechanic always works for me and the fact you are the one that has maintained it for most of its life to date is why word of mouth is still the best advertising.
James thank you so much for your considered review of a high mile Tesla, given your vast real world experience this is gold dust. Ive run a 2014 Model S P85 since 2015 and from new so 130,000 uk miles later Im happy to say taking a flyer and getting this incredible car has been life changing. It helped that I engineered 40+ years in big auto world wide, always knew electric propulsion was the best and when Tesla announced they would put the infrastructure in I went for it. In the early days people people were so dismissive of an EV (till they sat in the passenger seat on a 0-60!) but I always said to myself EVs will be truly accepted once 200k miles cars can be seen on the roads dispelling all the FUD on life expectancy. For me this review is a mile stone. As Ive worked on bikes and cars all my life servicing my car is no problem (and almost non existent) support from Tesla especially Chester Service and in addition the superb Ranger service meant when Tesla cancelled the RHD Plaid I had on order I just wasnt that bothered. It helps having the free Supercharging as this is a pre 2016 car, but every time I get in the S it still feels special and lets face it if we want to save the planet keep these "classic" Teslas on the road cranking up genuine high miles in the global fleet for many years to come, now that is saving CO2 who needs a Plaid
Love this real life use case; wish there were more peeps doing this stuff. Elon needs this info in one of his adverts. Great work as always - would love more stuff on eVans, especially a comparison between the vivaro-e and all it’s similar platform cousins.
Thanks James, enlightening ! 😮. After 4 years of driving in -30c to +30's Québec climate ( 5 month winters) my Kona E is at 121;000 km, I’ve had a cruiser control switch replaced ( under guarantee), and that’s it. EV's win hands down. 😅
The interior especially the seats have held up exceptionally well, there has probably been 60,000 people sit in them, they still look new, the only thing that showed slight wear was the steering wheel, well done Tesla.
Only yesterday, a friend asked how long I intend to keep my Tesla LR. Answer: “it’s probably my last ever car”. Well, I am in my 70s. As you know James, it’s a driving school car, Fremont-built 2019, serviced by you and the team at Cleevely EV. Only drawback is, learners get to drive it more than I do!
Great to see James, thanks. My 2020 M3LR was due a change in this year, but ive kept it as its mint and runs so well, no degradation, low miles and with the CO2 effect, I'm considering just keeping it long term. Amazing cars.
I took a gamble and picked up a couple of months ago a MS 2014 P85 with 105k and free supercharging. Drives lovely. Saved me £300 on deeeesil in me first month + should save on costs of maintenance and repairs i've always paid on my petrol and deesil cars over the last decade. Vids like this make me happier about my "risk level". (No warranty. No battery warranty. No motor warranty.) Lets hope it makes 400k miles I am planning on keeping it going no matter what!!
The early model S cars 2012-2015 did have some design flaws that have higher chance of failure. Like the AC drain on top of the battery. So it is possible at some point the battery will need to be replaced. Later ones seem to not have that problem but time will tell.
Good review James, though I'm not a Tesla person. Two points ... 1). Michelin Climate All Season Tyres are long lasting and excellent in all weather conditions. 2). That door click ... I had it on my Jaguar with the retaining/control arm fixing to the body being pulled by wind-gust catching the door. The bracket to A Pillar ovaled and the bolt wouldn't tighten, so it would click as the bracket moved back and forth. I fixed it by opening out the thread in the pillar with a drill and fitting a helicoil for a larger dia bolt that I also drilled a bigger hole for in the bracket. Been good for 40k miles since 😀
Love my Tesla mod 3. 40000 miles in 3 yrs only filled the washer fluid . As a mechanic of 40 yrs I love having clean hands 😉.PS I made a fortune fixing those German shit shows 😂
Hey James! I can agree fully, my P- may have only done 25k miles in its 4 years but it's pretty damn close to 'as new' as it could be. White seats are still perfectly white, despite the best efforts of two young kids in the back. Also had the front control arms done under warranty (common issue with the early ones it would seem) but other than two ~£180 Cleevely services (most recently Steve about 2 weeks ago!), it's cost me nothing. The final point about 'never buying anything else' holds true here, I'm planning on being the single owner of this car for many, many years. I'm at ~92% of the original battery but I've been at ~92% for the last 14k miles / 2.5 years so it's going nowhere. Noticed the owner had Rimetrix rims that I used to run on mine - after a mere 20k miles on the car they'd worn down just enough that they were loose on the wheel and all four corners were rattling. I thought there was something seriously wrong with the car - turned out to be those aftermarket rims making an absolute racket :( They've also utterly destroyed the wheel rims where dirt got between them and the wheel - designed to protect the wheel by taking the brunt of damage if you hit a kerb etc (which they do, very very well! *not looking at my partner... cough) but they've done more damage to the entire wheel than a lifetime of kerb rash. They look good but they're hiding the absolute state they've caused behind - if you see these rims, I'd factor in 4 wheel refurbs into the price and bin them.
Another great video, thanks James. A very impressive report on this high mileage Model 3 but it's clearly standing up very well and I completely agree with your point about the owner not needing to change it. I think many people, (including me), have become brainwashed into thinking a car needs to be changed if it gets near 100,000 miles. In terms of EV's this is clearly nonsense!
However, technology in Tesla has vastly improved battery life and ride. The most overlooked feature of new Teslas is the heat pump, due to cost savings and efficiency…Older models do not have the heat pump, nor the BMS and battery conditioning, notably cooling and warming it at the right time.
so 265000 model 3 2018 same config interior good seats same condition have replaced interior side trim next to driver the charger flap the upper front control arms need replacing otherwise just goes note I have trailer hitch use constantly range has settled at 85% note this is in canada no rust by the way.
Hi there James, First of all, kudos on the channel, it must really be an achievement for you to see yourself on the big screen. We've come across a problem at our garage of water ingress on the Tesla model 3 performance, I was wondering if you guys have had any experience of this? We are really struggling to identify the origin of the leak so any help would be really appreciated. If it would be possible for you to make a video of known fixes of water ingress on the Model 3 that would be very helpful for me and my workforce, it's been such a struggle with the recent downpour. Thanks, SKJ.
Glad I bought the Amazon mudflaps back in 2019. :-) I don't do as well for tyre mileage, maybe I should change to cross climates, or slow down. 40+k miles and just tyres and screenwash so far. Always intended to keep mine for years. This is good to see.
Very impressed with the longevity there James. If we had been in for a car of that size and style (boot, not hatchback) it would have been difficult to buy anything else. I was at Napton Eco Fair on Saturday and a few EV owners had their cars on display with info sheets in the screen. The ID.3 owner has taken a break as I was passing but a couple were looking round the car. I offered my insider knowledge as an owner and we chatted for about 30 minutes. I didn't realise but the owner returned part way through and joined the couple playing an "interested punter". They said that they would be arranging a test drive this week. They currently run an Audi Q3 so similar size. I warned them that they might miss their deep and soft leather seats but they didn't seem to mind. And then the owner revealed himself, thanked me and asked for a bit of assistance with a few settings in the deep dive.
Hi James, I’ve got a Mode Y company car which I love and had wondered about whether I would invest my own money in a used Tesla as a long term keep. This is pretty compelling.
Thanks, I'm over 90k on my Model 3, good to know I can more than double that with no problem. I run the same tires and am coming up on 50k miles, still good tread. OEM tires didn't last anywhere near as long.
This is the first 200K tesla I can found on youtube that hasn't had the battery replaced. Very impressive and seems quality have improved significantly from the early days. But those tire costs, man. I wonder if I drive it like a normal slow car would the tire last 80K kms or more.
That is a great review James. If I had seen this 8 months ago I don’t think I would have bought a new EV. It’s so good to have a review by someone that knows what they are talking about.
Thank you so much for your review. I have a Tesla Model 3, 2023 performance and it's a pure joy to drive! I hope my car performs just as well. It's amazing the original brakes are still on the car, WOW
I would happily buy a 2020 or older Tesla Model 3 with 200k or even 400k miles on it. Still has another 500k miles on it! It should last more than 750k miles. Even Hertz keeps them for 143k miles. Hertz policy is to resell cars before 35k miles.
Could you ask him about his charging profile?11kw / dc 50kw / supercharger/ 10% >90 or 100% for example. This would be very useful to us owners . This guy must have done only good for that pack.
That's quite impressive for a 200k mileage car of any sort, on the issue of maintenance costs it's a lot harder to quantify, the prices you quoted seem very good for the work undertaken, I could well imagine these things costing a lot more at a traditional garage with all the overheads they carry, we all need a mechanic like you..
I am really impressed by the state of the seats when I traded in my Ford Escape with 95k miles and only me driving it for a Model Y the Escape's seats were very shabby. Also the engine was starting to feel tired. The only reason I will be selling my Model Y is to replace it with a TriMotor CyberTruck and as I am now >70 I expect it to be my last vehicle. Fortunately I purchased the FSD package so it can drive me around when I would be having my license pulled for old timers disease.🤣
Nice video! So I've got a 2023 Model 3 RWD with 9,000 miles on it over first 9 months. That means I've only got 191,000 miles to go to catch up with yours. Wow, gotta love that dependability.
Excellent review James - You have a good impartial view of Tesla's - so pretty good coming from you. I think its the shape of things to come - the Car industry needs to wake up - when these 4 / 5 / 6 year old high milers start coming on the market - they will be affordable and great value for money for more people - thus accelerating the transition to EV's. Mechanically they just make so much more practical long term sense.
Fantastic videos I am a taxi driver and wanted to buy a Tesla to use as a taxi but could not get a decent insurance quote have you any idea wich insurance firm he uses
Yeh, 2nd hand Teslas are great buying now! We just sold our MG ZS Ev and changed to a 2nd hand Model 3 for a little more money. Far out they are a nice machine! I think I have to disagree with your maths on how much C02 has been saved over the lifetime of the car. I calculated we saved ~10 tons of C02 in our MG after just 50000km (~30k miles) compared to driving our old Forester. It will depend a little on how much renewables you use to charge but at 200k miles I would think it would be closer to 66tons of C02 saved (so about 10 times your estimate). Great video!👍
It amazes me why people vilify Tesla so much recently when in actual fact that is a solid car! It being a taxi gives everyone a good idea of how these cars stand up to everyday wear and tear. It would take me 20 years to rack that much mileage up! The scare stories about battery health, replacement etc are laughable. I’d be swapping the car long before it ever needed a battery…wish I could afford one! I might end up buying a cat C or is it “N” now?
Also have to remember those are equivalent to a 500HP V8 or Turbo v6 sedan which usually takes premium and gets way worse gas mileage than the average. Even the RWD version makes nearly 300hp which would still require a nice Turbo 4cyl to keep up which would require premium as well! I wouldn't hesitate to drop $20k on one with 200k miles in that good a condition! Problem is finding them! Not too many ppl giving them up still.
@@Jamesandkate of course they will tell that,you think they will shit on themself just like with batteries which get fire and burned just like car accident
That’s amazing, I’ve just had my girlfriends fiat 500 given a mega full service and that was about £950. It’s only done 40,000 miles. Would be interesting to compare the cost of an Audi tdi uber total cost including depreciation as a comparison. Great video James
You have just highlighted what so many people miss about electric vehicles. - yes, they might cost more to buy, but they are cheap as chips in every other way. From that point onwards. And we also have to compare like with like so a BMW 320 D is a slug compared to a model three standard range.
I just hit the 80000 km (50,000 miles) on my poor man's 2019 Model 3. After 4 years of trouble free driving, I decided to have Tesla mobile service have a look before the warranty expired. Outside of a cabin air filter and a quick brake service, there was nothing else to do. He thinks the brakes will last 600,000 km + at the current rate and the battery is at 95%. I will get it looked at every couple of years from here on in but looks like smooth sailing ahead.
Would be good to know what the electricity costs were over that mileage? The early Freemont cars were way better than the later ones looks like just the paint protection film peeling off at the front. I’ve got that on mine. It would take me 28 years to get to that sort of mileage 😂 it would also suggest 2nd hand prices should be much stronger if we stop using ICE cars as a comparison
Thanks James for a great video. This is all grist to the mill of helping the wider public to understand that EVs are more durable and more reliable over more miles than any ICE car. We don't know how the owner has charged the car, overnight at home? Rapid chargers en route?...but a similar sized diesel taxi ( doing 50 mpg) would have spent about £30,000 on fuel over that distance. As for battery degradation, if the car does get sold it is likely to have a much easier life with a more gentle charging regime so the loss of range over the next 200,000 miles may not be linear.
Great stuff! Saturday just gone changed my M3LR Pilot Sport 4 tyres since new, got 25k out of them. Had the car new so obviously a bit heavy footed early days and occasional fun Sunday drive.
Glad to hear it. I got a refreshed, heatpump included Dec 2011 build of a SR+ from Freemont. Done only 11k miles! I guess it's got a bit of life in it :)
Good presentation and very good information. Like others have mentioned, I have now added this video to my list of "EV education" videos that I share with people about EV ownership I drive a 2021 Model Y LR, I just rolled over 30k miles and I'm looking for a long future with this car. Baring any kind of "wham bam" incident!
If only we had a hatchback format, smaller, better fit for european roads, parking lots, backside roads etc.. id for sure get one. I wanna get a model 3 LFP less than 80k kms for around 16-19k euros, batteries and motors still under warranty and main recals done (suspension triangle, charging orings, charging cover etc..) but it's so freaking huge. I do everything with my car, big big road trips, groceries, moves, carry ovens etc.. when improve my home, go camping etc.. model y would be the best format like a hatchback in a way but it's even more huge :/ We havetiny parking spots where even a camaro doesn't fit, small backroads you sometimes cant even cross with 2 small hatchbacks so what about a SUV and a tesla.. our drive throughs are so small you'd get massive curb rash after just 10 times going there.. really gotta think this through but i want one so so bad :/
Not a bad vehicle!! Just not a car that I would buy. For my way of life, the Vauxhall Combo Life Electric converted into a camper by Wheelhome of Brentwood, Essex is my choice!!
Thanks for your insight on this M3P! I noticed that you mentioned that it was a Fremont-built car, which surprised me a bit. I didn’t know that the US plants built RHD vehicles. If you ever do a similar video on a MY I’ll be even more interested from my personal perspective.
I was fortunate to be an early adopter and took possession of a model. Three standard range in August 2019. It is a rear wheel drive, 320 hp monster. I sold it onto my brother in March this year, having taken possession of a model Y long range. That M3 was a mint car with just 18,000 miles and my brother bagged it for just 25 grand. (trade in price offered to me by Tesla.) I am still suffering sellers regret.
Excellent work, we recently purchased a Model 3 here in Newcastle Australia. I have a huge commute with about 120 miles a day 3 and 4 days per week. So I am very interested in how the high mileage will affect the car. Ours does have the LFP batteries so Im not sure how they will handle the distance.
Chuffed with our Model S, bought with 100k on the clock and just under £800 paid by the previous owner to maintain it during that time. Hoping it's still as good as this 3 when it hits 200k.
It’s in better condition than my 50k mile one. Just bought it from Tesla and it’s got a lot of squeaks and rattles. Previous owner really didn’t look after mine unlike this one that has been well cared for
Is hydrogen dioxide really this bad? :D :D :D I love the car and the idea tho..... really? And this emission saving (zero emission) thing? Was all the E renewable? Not mentioning the PV / wind carbon footprint. I get the idea but why sugar coat it blindly?
Very impressive figures. I have a Kuga with only 200,000km, it’s due its third set of rear brake discs,(yes discs), and I just had the timing belt/water pump replaced costing about €500! I would certainly consider a Tesla like this. I also have an Ionic 5 which just had its 30,000km service which cost €305. I think this is waaaay too much for changing the pollen filter, but I have no choice if I want to maintain the warranty. At least that includes AA cover.
I’m pretty sure on Europe your protected by block exemption. This means your Ioniq can be serviced anywhere by suitably qualified mechanics fitting OEM spec parts.
Yes other non-Tesla manufactures still employed this stealership model of charging you for servicing a car to maintain the warranty. Teslas have no service schedule. Because as we saw in this video, there is practically nothing to service.
@@Jamesandkate , I’ll check they out, hopefully it’s true. The Hyundai dealership also said that they updated the software package, but it had never been updated since leaving the factory. I updated it myself last week.
its crazy my model 3 has over 110k miles and it drives like new its just too much value to pass up. I also had two years of free supercharging that turned into two and a half and I did 60,000 miles for free for some reason Tesla took 6 months to disable it
Seems like a pretty good deal for a car that's done that sort of mileage. Shame the owner didn't follow your recommendation and add the mudguards to the wheels.
Brilliantly done James , will bookmark this and share on my socials EVERWHERE ! 👍👌👏👏👏👏👏
Cheers boss 😘
@@Jamesandkate this videos a bunch of bullshit lol its had dozens of times and they're the most expensive thing to replace the fact you've had to replace the control arms something u never have to replace ice vehicles proves its a piece of shit, struts yes control arms no lol.
These high mileage vids are the only ones to watch. Reviewed by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Thanks fir this vid.
So apart from 15 oil filters, 15 gallons of oil, 7 air filters 3 fuel filters, a dual mass flywheel, 2 diesel particular filters, an EGR valve, 3cam belts, 4 sets of brake pads and 2 sets of discs. My faithful diesel hasn't needed anything. (Sarcasm).
Great video, not only did it show just how good the Model 3 is, they have been continuously making improvements to the build quality since that particular car was built.
Well put...yet still the die-hards will cling on to their obsession with 'engines'.
That’s the thing. I’m a technician of over 30 years, so fully understand the realism of running an ICE car. You’re one of the few people who are honest about it. Thanks 🙏
It's gonna last it has a lot fewer mechanical parts,no brainer
I recently sold a BMW 320d for £500 at 180k miles, after spending thousands on maintenance and repairs. Plus if you charge overnight off peak you stand to save around £20k in fuel over 200k miles compared to an economical diesel, or north of £30K compared to a performance saloon like an M3. When you consider a new LFP model 3 costs the same to buy as a new 320d, it's a no brainer on cost alone.
Cannot imagine newer BMWs can go 180k miles based on my experience.
High praise indeed James, especially for a Fremont built car. I didn’t think the Septics had it in them, but clearly they have done something right! Cracking car and review!
Mines a Shanghai replacement for the Fremont version and much much better
@@davidpearn5925I have had two Shanghai built Teslas, a MY and M3. Both were spot on.👍
My 2021 Fremont Model Y has no quality issues, they big problems were in the initial orders before Tesla was able to get more manufacturing experience.
@@jjamespacbell Shanghai is worry free.
Thank you, this is the type of feed back that people want to hear. A trusted mechanic always works for me and the fact you are the one that has maintained it for most of its life to date is why word of mouth is still the best advertising.
James thank you so much for your considered review of a high mile Tesla, given your vast real world experience this is gold dust. Ive run a 2014 Model S P85 since 2015 and from new so 130,000 uk miles later Im happy to say taking a flyer and getting this incredible car has been life changing. It helped that I engineered 40+ years in big auto world wide, always knew electric propulsion was the best and when Tesla announced they would put the infrastructure in I went for it. In the early days people people were so dismissive of an EV (till they sat in the passenger seat on a 0-60!) but I always said to myself EVs will be truly accepted once 200k miles cars can be seen on the roads dispelling all the FUD on life expectancy. For me this review is a mile stone. As Ive worked on bikes and cars all my life servicing my car is no problem (and almost non existent) support from Tesla especially Chester Service and in addition the superb Ranger service meant when Tesla cancelled the RHD Plaid I had on order I just wasnt that bothered. It helps having the free Supercharging as this is a pre 2016 car, but every time I get in the S it still feels special and lets face it if we want to save the planet keep these "classic" Teslas on the road cranking up genuine high miles in the global fleet for many years to come, now that is saving CO2 who needs a Plaid
Amazing comment, thanks. Glad the S is looking after you 👍🏻
If you look after your car, your car will look after you!
@@ouethojlkjnit might even keep you and your neighbours warm for days when it bursts into flames whilst parked.
@@z00h You might even come up with something funny if you try hard enough
@@ouethojlkjn it wasn't meant to be funny.
Very valuable summary of how well these cars hold up James, thank you very much.
Love this real life use case; wish there were more peeps doing this stuff. Elon needs this info in one of his adverts. Great work as always - would love more stuff on eVans, especially a comparison between the vivaro-e and all it’s similar platform cousins.
'It drives like any other Tesla I've driven!'
'Well, why wouldn't it?'
That says it all. Thanks James. 🙂👍
Most of it is on the motorway. I'm thinking James is trying to sell something here :D.
Thanks James, enlightening ! 😮.
After 4 years of driving in -30c to +30's Québec climate ( 5 month winters) my Kona E is at 121;000 km, I’ve had a cruiser control switch replaced ( under guarantee), and that’s it. EV's win hands down. 😅
Расскажешь о победе через несколько лет, когда тебе выставят счет на замену батареи 😅
The interior especially the seats have held up exceptionally well, there has probably been 60,000 people sit in them, they still look new, the only thing that showed slight wear was the steering wheel, well done Tesla.
There's no wear on the steering wheel at all
Only yesterday, a friend asked how long I intend to keep my Tesla LR. Answer: “it’s probably my last ever car”. Well, I am in my 70s. As you know James, it’s a driving school car, Fremont-built 2019, serviced by you and the team at Cleevely EV. Only drawback is, learners get to drive it more than I do!
Missed your clips recently and hope there are more coming James/Kate.
Sorry, been busy. More coming
Great to see James, thanks. My 2020 M3LR was due a change in this year, but ive kept it as its mint and runs so well, no degradation, low miles and with the CO2 effect, I'm considering just keeping it long term. Amazing cars.
Great review, James! This channel is more informative than 95% of automotive RUclips.
Thank you 🙏
I took a gamble and picked up a couple of months ago a MS 2014 P85 with 105k and free supercharging. Drives lovely. Saved me £300 on deeeesil in me first month + should save on costs of maintenance and repairs i've always paid on my petrol and deesil cars over the last decade. Vids like this make me happier about my "risk level". (No warranty. No battery warranty. No motor warranty.) Lets hope it makes 400k miles I am planning on keeping it going no matter what!!
If it helps, we offer a warranty for all of these through our business. Mobile@cleevelyev.co.uk 👍🏻
The early model S cars 2012-2015 did have some design flaws that have higher chance of failure. Like the AC drain on top of the battery. So it is possible at some point the battery will need to be replaced. Later ones seem to not have that problem but time will tell.
I think you just sold more Tesla's.
Good review James, though I'm not a Tesla person. Two points ... 1). Michelin Climate All Season Tyres are long lasting and excellent in all weather conditions. 2). That door click ... I had it on my Jaguar with the retaining/control arm fixing to the body being pulled by wind-gust catching the door. The bracket to A Pillar ovaled and the bolt wouldn't tighten, so it would click as the bracket moved back and forth. I fixed it by opening out the thread in the pillar with a drill and fitting a helicoil for a larger dia bolt that I also drilled a bigger hole for in the bracket. Been good for 40k miles since 😀
Love my Tesla mod 3. 40000 miles in 3 yrs only filled the washer fluid . As a mechanic of 40 yrs I love having clean hands 😉.PS I made a fortune fixing those German shit shows 😂
This makes me feel insanely good about my 2020 with 23k miles I just picked up. Im going to drive it like hell
Hey James! I can agree fully, my P- may have only done 25k miles in its 4 years but it's pretty damn close to 'as new' as it could be. White seats are still perfectly white, despite the best efforts of two young kids in the back. Also had the front control arms done under warranty (common issue with the early ones it would seem) but other than two ~£180 Cleevely services (most recently Steve about 2 weeks ago!), it's cost me nothing. The final point about 'never buying anything else' holds true here, I'm planning on being the single owner of this car for many, many years. I'm at ~92% of the original battery but I've been at ~92% for the last 14k miles / 2.5 years so it's going nowhere.
Noticed the owner had Rimetrix rims that I used to run on mine - after a mere 20k miles on the car they'd worn down just enough that they were loose on the wheel and all four corners were rattling. I thought there was something seriously wrong with the car - turned out to be those aftermarket rims making an absolute racket :( They've also utterly destroyed the wheel rims where dirt got between them and the wheel - designed to protect the wheel by taking the brunt of damage if you hit a kerb etc (which they do, very very well! *not looking at my partner... cough) but they've done more damage to the entire wheel than a lifetime of kerb rash. They look good but they're hiding the absolute state they've caused behind - if you see these rims, I'd factor in 4 wheel refurbs into the price and bin them.
Daily Mail, ToryGraph and Oil powered EV haters - watch this. AND it has Same 0-60 as a Maclaren F1
Your mic has 200k miles lol get a new mic bro 😂😂😂
Another great video, thanks James. A very impressive report on this high mileage Model 3 but it's clearly standing up very well and I completely agree with your point about the owner not needing to change it. I think many people, (including me), have become brainwashed into thinking a car needs to be changed if it gets near 100,000 miles. In terms of EV's this is clearly nonsense!
However, technology in Tesla has vastly improved battery life and ride. The most overlooked feature of new Teslas is the heat pump, due to cost savings and efficiency…Older models do not have the heat pump, nor the BMS and battery conditioning, notably cooling and warming it at the right time.
so 265000 model 3 2018 same config interior good seats same condition have replaced interior side trim next to driver the charger flap the upper front control arms need replacing otherwise just goes note I have trailer hitch use constantly range has settled at 85% note this is in canada no rust by the way.
Wow love the video! Great to see a Tesla going strong at 200k
Are you Tesla specialist?, I’m looking for someone to look at my Model 3
We are. Pop an email over to mobile@cleevelyev.co.uk 👍🏼
Hi there James,
First of all, kudos on the channel, it must really be an achievement for you to see yourself on the big screen.
We've come across a problem at our garage of water ingress on the Tesla model 3 performance, I was wondering if you guys have had any experience of this? We are really struggling to identify the origin of the leak so any help would be really appreciated.
If it would be possible for you to make a video of known fixes of water ingress on the Model 3 that would be very helpful for me and my workforce, it's been such a struggle with the recent downpour.
Thanks,
SKJ.
Sorry for the slow reply, didn't see this. The umbrella valves were a known leak point.
I would not. I would not buy a 0 mile Tesla. I would not drive one even if were free.
Why?
Glad I bought the Amazon mudflaps back in 2019. :-)
I don't do as well for tyre mileage, maybe I should change to cross climates, or slow down.
40+k miles and just tyres and screenwash so far.
Always intended to keep mine for years.
This is good to see.
But but but but you’ll need a new battery soon ! 🤣 . The trolls will be fuming lol
I suspected that this would be the case at 200k with a Tesla Model 3. Good to have it confirmed. What a car!
Very impressed with the longevity there James. If we had been in for a car of that size and style (boot, not hatchback) it would have been difficult to buy anything else.
I was at Napton Eco Fair on Saturday and a few EV owners had their cars on display with info sheets in the screen. The ID.3 owner has taken a break as I was passing but a couple were looking round the car. I offered my insider knowledge as an owner and we chatted for about 30 minutes. I didn't realise but the owner returned part way through and joined the couple playing an "interested punter".
They said that they would be arranging a test drive this week. They currently run an Audi Q3 so similar size. I warned them that they might miss their deep and soft leather seats but they didn't seem to mind.
And then the owner revealed himself, thanked me and asked for a bit of assistance with a few settings in the deep dive.
Coming from the person who maintains the car, that is amazing.
I had to put screenwash in mine, but only done 15k miles 😅
Hi James, I’ve got a Mode Y company car which I love and had wondered about whether I would invest my own money in a used Tesla as a long term keep. This is pretty compelling.
Thanks, I'm over 90k on my Model 3, good to know I can more than double that with no problem. I run the same tires and am coming up on 50k miles, still good tread. OEM tires didn't last anywhere near as long.
You can make any car last indefinitely. This proves nothing.
You seem flustered 🤣🤣🤣
Well it does prove something if you had stopped to think about it. It proves that despite what all these EV haters say, these vehicles do last.
This is the first 200K tesla I can found on youtube that hasn't had the battery replaced. Very impressive and seems quality have improved significantly from the early days. But those tire costs, man. I wonder if I drive it like a normal slow car would the tire last 80K kms or more.
That is a great review James. If I had seen this 8 months ago I don’t think I would have bought a new EV. It’s so good to have a review by someone that knows what they are talking about.
Very impressive. Quite the advert for Tesla!
Apart from those sills, it looks a cracker James 👍🏻 £800 for 200,000 miles is amazing 👍🏻
Thank you so much for your review. I have a Tesla Model 3, 2023 performance and it's a pure joy to drive! I hope my car performs just as well. It's amazing the original brakes are still on the car, WOW
I sold my 2018 model 3 with 153,000 miles, there wasn't anything wrong with it. Very solid car!
Out of interest, for how much??
@@Jamesandkate $20,500 it was in the same fantastic condition, but I installed mudflaps when I got it new so the rockers were fine too!
I never watch any other EV channel.James ,Kate and Florence are in my opinion the UK'S EV experts.
My Tesla model 3 has 80,000 and still tight as a nut.
I would happily buy a 2020 or older Tesla Model 3 with 200k or even 400k miles on it. Still has another 500k miles on it! It should last more than 750k miles. Even Hertz keeps them for 143k miles. Hertz policy is to resell cars before 35k miles.
Could you ask him about his charging profile?11kw / dc 50kw / supercharger/ 10% >90 or 100% for example.
This would be very useful to us owners .
This guy must have done only good for that pack.
He 7kWs overnight and supercharges on most journeys
James is correct
Thanks for that , slow overnight ac must be good for the pack. Did he mention what charge % from/ to.
That's quite impressive for a 200k mileage car of any sort, on the issue of maintenance costs it's a lot harder to quantify, the prices you quoted seem very good for the work undertaken, I could well imagine these things costing a lot more at a traditional garage with all the overheads they carry, we all need a mechanic like you..
Where do I sign? Never been scared of high mileage and this looks great!
I'll Take it 😊
Honest review from an expert is worth more than a sales pitch.
I am really impressed by the state of the seats when I traded in my Ford Escape with 95k miles and only me driving it for a Model Y the Escape's seats were very shabby. Also the engine was starting to feel tired.
The only reason I will be selling my Model Y is to replace it with a TriMotor CyberTruck and as I am now >70 I expect it to be my last vehicle. Fortunately I purchased the FSD package so it can drive me around when I would be having my license pulled for old timers disease.🤣
Nice video! So I've got a 2023 Model 3 RWD with 9,000 miles on it over first 9 months. That means I've only got 191,000 miles to go to catch up with yours. Wow, gotta love that dependability.
Quite a contrast with your opinion of your Model 3 performance two years ago. Difficult to draw any conclusion?
Mine was shite, until they repaired it. However, this is about long term longevity. I don't doubt that our old model will do the same as this one.
Love love love this video as I do Teslas. Been singing their praises for years and do hope to buy one myself at some point. Thanks for sharing.👍
Excellent review James - You have a good impartial view of Tesla's - so pretty good coming from you.
I think its the shape of things to come - the Car industry needs to wake up - when these 4 / 5 / 6 year old high milers start coming on the market - they will be affordable and great value for money for more people - thus accelerating the transition to EV's. Mechanically they just make so much more practical long term sense.
You cannot replace the seat sensor alone! You must replace the entire seat. The drivers seat is NOT original!!
Incorrect, I have changed numerous sensors, it takes 20 mins and slides out from under the squab.
Fantastic videos I am a taxi driver and wanted to buy a Tesla to use as a taxi but could not get a decent insurance quote have you any idea wich insurance firm he uses
I think it was a private broker, but can't be sure.
Prob’ly the most useful Tesla vid on T’ internet -- thanks🌝
Wow, thanks!
Yeh, 2nd hand Teslas are great buying now! We just sold our MG ZS Ev and changed to a 2nd hand Model 3 for a little more money. Far out they are a nice machine! I think I have to disagree with your maths on how much C02 has been saved over the lifetime of the car. I calculated we saved ~10 tons of C02 in our MG after just 50000km (~30k miles) compared to driving our old Forester. It will depend a little on how much renewables you use to charge but at 200k miles I would think it would be closer to 66tons of C02 saved (so about 10 times your estimate). Great video!👍
battery deg is not bad, it's basically come down to what my Leaf has new 😄
It amazes me why people vilify Tesla so much recently when in actual fact that is a solid car! It being a taxi gives everyone a good idea of how these cars stand up to everyday wear and tear. It would take me 20 years to rack that much mileage up! The scare stories about battery health, replacement etc are laughable. I’d be swapping the car long before it ever needed a battery…wish I could afford one! I might end up buying a cat C or is it “N” now?
Also have to remember those are equivalent to a 500HP V8 or Turbo v6 sedan which usually takes premium and gets way worse gas mileage than the average. Even the RWD version makes nearly 300hp which would still require a nice Turbo 4cyl to keep up which would require premium as well! I wouldn't hesitate to drop $20k on one with 200k miles in that good a condition! Problem is finding them! Not too many ppl giving them up still.
I'm not sure if this will be seen, but I just found the video. What mud flaps do youbrecomend, any chance of a link.
Thanks.
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Thank you.
its good for buying only if you get it dirty cheap while otherwise prepare 20000+$ or whatever only for new battery which can die every moment
Tesla has a report on battery replacements, it's less then 0.02 of all cars sold.
@@Jamesandkate of course they will tell that,you think they will shit on themself just like with batteries which get fire and burned just like car accident
Great review.still waiting for a bulb to blow on my ev after three years other than washing it
Has it been DC charged much?
7kW daily overnight and supercharged most days too.
@@JamesandkateThat’s incredible! 😮 Would be interesting to know what % it’s charged to every evening.
Saving six tons of CO2 is what turns me on.❤
Apparently it's 60t. I got it wrong.
That’s amazing, I’ve just had my girlfriends fiat 500 given a mega full service and that was about £950. It’s only done 40,000 miles. Would be interesting to compare the cost of an Audi tdi uber total cost including depreciation as a comparison. Great video James
You have just highlighted what so many people miss about electric vehicles. - yes, they might cost more to buy, but they are cheap as chips in every other way. From that point onwards. And we also have to compare like with like so a BMW 320 D is a slug compared to a model three standard range.
I just hit the 80000 km (50,000 miles) on my poor man's 2019 Model 3. After 4 years of trouble free driving, I decided to have Tesla mobile service have a look before the warranty expired. Outside of a cabin air filter and a quick brake service, there was nothing else to do. He thinks the brakes will last 600,000 km + at the current rate and the battery is at 95%. I will get it looked at every couple of years from here on in but looks like smooth sailing ahead.
Would be good to know what the electricity costs were over that mileage? The early Freemont cars were way better than the later ones looks like just the paint protection film peeling off at the front. I’ve got that on mine. It would take me 28 years to get to that sort of mileage 😂 it would also suggest 2nd hand prices should be much stronger if we stop using ICE cars as a comparison
Thanks James for a great video. This is all grist to the mill of helping the wider public to understand that EVs are more durable and more reliable over more miles than any ICE car. We don't know how the owner has charged the car, overnight at home? Rapid chargers en route?...but a similar sized diesel taxi ( doing 50 mpg) would have spent about £30,000 on fuel over that distance. As for battery degradation, if the car does get sold it is likely to have a much easier life with a more gentle charging regime so the loss of range over the next 200,000 miles may not be linear.
Great stuff! Saturday just gone changed my M3LR Pilot Sport 4 tyres since new, got 25k out of them. Had the car new so obviously a bit heavy footed early days and occasional fun Sunday drive.
Glad to hear it. I got a refreshed, heatpump included Dec 2011 build of a SR+ from Freemont. Done only 11k miles! I guess it's got a bit of life in it :)
Good presentation and very good information. Like others have mentioned, I have now added this video to my list of "EV education" videos that I share with people about EV ownership I drive a 2021 Model Y LR, I just rolled over 30k miles and I'm looking for a long future with this car. Baring any kind of "wham bam" incident!
I just discovered ‘standard’ instead of chill ……BLOODY HELL !! (M3 LFP RWD)
Lent our M3P to a customer last year, they said “yours is way quicker than ours”, they’d had it in chill since new, 18 months 😂😂😂
@@Jamesandkate for the first 100,000 kms that was me also
The older "SR+" RWD is even quicker than the current LFP! (though not quite as efficient)
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If only we had a hatchback format, smaller, better fit for european roads, parking lots, backside roads etc.. id for sure get one. I wanna get a model 3 LFP less than 80k kms for around 16-19k euros, batteries and motors still under warranty and main recals done (suspension triangle, charging orings, charging cover etc..) but it's so freaking huge. I do everything with my car, big big road trips, groceries, moves, carry ovens etc.. when improve my home, go camping etc.. model y would be the best format like a hatchback in a way but it's even more huge :/
We havetiny parking spots where even a camaro doesn't fit, small backroads you sometimes cant even cross with 2 small hatchbacks so what about a SUV and a tesla.. our drive throughs are so small you'd get massive curb rash after just 10 times going there.. really gotta think this through but i want one so so bad :/
Not a bad vehicle!! Just not a car that I would buy. For my way of life, the Vauxhall Combo Life Electric converted into a camper by Wheelhome of Brentwood, Essex is my choice!!
As long as it’s electric it’s all good 👍🏻
Thanks for your insight on this M3P! I noticed that you mentioned that it was a Fremont-built car, which surprised me a bit. I didn’t know that the US plants built RHD vehicles. If you ever do a similar video on a MY I’ll be even more interested from my personal perspective.
Cracking vid as usual well done very interesting.👍👍👍😎😎😎
I was fortunate to be an early adopter and took possession of a model. Three standard range in August 2019. It is a rear wheel drive, 320 hp monster. I sold it onto my brother in March this year, having taken possession of a model Y long range. That M3 was a mint car with just 18,000 miles and my brother bagged it for just 25 grand. (trade in price offered to me by Tesla.) I am still suffering sellers regret.
Excellent work, we recently purchased a Model 3 here in Newcastle Australia. I have a huge commute with about 120 miles a day 3 and 4 days per week. So I am very interested in how the high mileage will affect the car. Ours does have the LFP batteries so Im not sure how they will handle the distance.
What a fantastic video , share it with as many as you can . Real world 200K mile review , just brilliant.
Chuffed with our Model S, bought with 100k on the clock and just under £800 paid by the previous owner to maintain it during that time. Hoping it's still as good as this 3 when it hits 200k.
It’s in better condition than my 50k mile one. Just bought it from Tesla and it’s got a lot of squeaks and rattles. Previous owner really didn’t look after mine unlike this one that has been well cared for
Do you have the warranty on preowned through Tesla? I’d get them to sort it 👍🏻
@@Jamesandkate yes, it’s been in 5 times already, Slowly getting it sorted
Great video. Honesty and hands-on expertise.
Amazing and how little it's cost to run and how good the battery is after 200K
Is hydrogen dioxide really this bad? :D :D :D I love the car and the idea tho..... really? And this emission saving (zero emission) thing? Was all the E renewable? Not mentioning the PV / wind carbon footprint. I get the idea but why sugar coat it blindly?
Can you please link to the mud flaps you recommend as I haven't got them on mine
BASENOR Tesla Model 3 Mud Flaps Splash Guards Winter Vehicle Sediment Protection 2016-2023(Set of 4) amzn.eu/d/3umXkx1
Good vid James and yes like you I would drop my shekles on it!
I’d say no. They wont buy a leaf with 130k. Amazing people’s stupidity. Price to sell. No offers. Perfect for island life.
Take my money, I'd buy it tomorrow and put another 200k on it.
Excellent video James, was looking to change my Y after the S and X fiasco but its just too good to swap out. Its a keeper for sure.
Great review of this high mileage example! I'm still saving up for my EV.... hope Tesla will do a Model 2 soon.
Very impressive figures. I have a Kuga with only 200,000km, it’s due its third set of rear brake discs,(yes discs), and I just had the timing belt/water pump replaced costing about €500! I would certainly consider a Tesla like this. I also have an Ionic 5 which just had its 30,000km service which cost €305. I think this is waaaay too much for changing the pollen filter, but I have no choice if I want to maintain the warranty. At least that includes AA cover.
I’m pretty sure on Europe your protected by block exemption. This means your Ioniq can be serviced anywhere by suitably qualified mechanics fitting OEM spec parts.
Yes other non-Tesla manufactures still employed this stealership model of charging you for servicing a car to maintain the warranty. Teslas have no service schedule. Because as we saw in this video, there is practically nothing to service.
@@Jamesandkate , I’ll check they out, hopefully it’s true. The Hyundai dealership also said that they updated the software package, but it had never been updated since leaving the factory. I updated it myself last week.
If you are getting that 10 to 12k US dollars it's ok but if you are paying 20k plus buy one with factory 8/120k warranty for long range model.
Glad you’ve covered this
its crazy my model 3 has over 110k miles and it drives like new its just too much value to pass up. I also had two years of free supercharging that turned into two and a half and I did 60,000 miles for free for some reason Tesla took 6 months to disable it
Seems like a pretty good deal for a car that's done that sort of mileage. Shame the owner didn't follow your recommendation and add the mudguards to the wheels.