Why dose the exhaust make those popping noises anyway?? I've seen comments how owners like the popping noise, but why do hyndai give it that sound (sooner or later someone is going to put flame throwers in😂)
lol that statement is so true. there was a cop that lived across the street from us he was a complete asshole always talked down to us and treated us with complete disrespect. the story starts with the lawn care guy he usually showed up cut the grass and was done and gone within 30 to 40 minutes . both me and my girlfriend noticed after seeing him show up and cut the grass he would pull up cut the grass then put away his equipment heather would be standing outside and he would walk back up to the door where she was standing he gave her a hug and grabbed her ass they then walked into the house. i don't know what they did but we sat there waiting for him to come back out he was in there for an hour she let him out and walked out to the truck with him and talked for a bit then she walked back in the house and he drove off. we then realized why this guy was in a bad mood all the time the next time we seen him he was rude and i said i know why your always in a bad mood not getting any huh? he got so pissed off at me and we got into a heated argument i then slipped and told him about the lawn care guy and his wife. was the best thing i ever did, he eventually confronted her i heard them arguing out in there back yard and the following week he got a small u haul truck i thought he was kicking her out but turns out the house was hers she kicked him out.no more asshole cop to worry about. and i bet you could guess who lives there now with her that lawn care guy.
@@TheSpidersoftheworld Some would say, he was a "cut above the rest". Glad she found someone better, I can only imagine if he's like that at work how he was to her, and lawn boy with a nice butt and I'm sure landscaped areas would be a nice improvement over a stinky old pig.
Dude it's just California. It's the worst stare. Super communist and definitely the bottom of the shoe for a place to live. If you want no freedom, then move to California.
Wow. I'm astonished at how this cop doesn't even for one second consider that he's talking to a human. He's getting off so hard on ruining someone. Disgusting behavior.
Well, that's how a lot of cops are. Not really surprising. There is a certain personality type who are drawn to the profession who can be psychoanalyzed to have the same overlapping characteristics.
That officer is a perfect example of police overreach. His attitude leaves EVERYTHING to be desired. His personality type should be kept out of uniform to avoid this kind of abuse of power. Not everyone is suitable for positions of authority. A feeb brain cant process the job and it's humanity simultaneously, making officers like this one a liability to the public.
California is out of control with stuff like that, and the cop was clearly being a complete jerk. If you get pulled, get it into Normal mode and NEVER admit to any wrongdoing. It would be his word against yours, he didn't have a db meter to reference.
@@opadilla123 Unfortunately there's no timestamp on his footage, however it does appear to be some traffic around and from what I can see, commercial buildings on the right. So I don't particularly have any qualms about him being in N mode. For example, I get home around 5AM, I'm in N mode until I get to a residential area - that makes sense to me.
If the car has not been modded they cant do crap. The car was allowed in the US that means the feds approved it. Sue the dealer yeah right officer good luck with that wonder what this cop does when he sees and hell cat or demon. The driver should of said Ill put it in sport mode then the cop will hear the same exhaust note this kid should fight it.
“Hey, your car is a little noisy, so I’m going to forcibly suspend your driving privileges and force you to spend thousands. Seems reasonable to me.” - that cop
I bet the cop slept well that night, knowing his jurisdiction is a safer place without this hooligan Elantra driver dangerously emitting 3dB more from his stock exhaust than it should.
Yeah I probably would have blown a gasket in that situation. Cop would have shot me cause there is no way anyone is talking to me the way that pig talked to him
The police officer's actions were deplorable, but what really gets me is how the state handled it afterward. How was this not immediately thrown out by the DMV or a judge boggles my mind. Even after it all with the dealership invoice in hand, it still wasn't thrown out or reduced to a simple noise pollution ticket... I can't imagine how this guy feels right now. Modern bureaucracy at work.
...because the guy's car is louder than what California allows when it's in Track mode. The solution is to either remove Track mode or add more baffles to the exhaust. This isn't hard.
@@ryankwan1934 they’re allowing a corporation to produce products that violate state law. There should be a temporary exemption passed on these models and a mandatory recall to remedy the issue. I don’t see how crushing individual citizens with fines or removing their ability to travel to work is the correct solution here. The laws as written are more geared towards citizens illegally modifying their vehicles not manufacturers (who are very well regulated by the state and federal government) mass producing illegal vehicles and the buck stopping with the citizen.
@@AlphabetCo-lk9jo The Track mode is meant for the Track. The State tests it in normal mode. Do we mechanically or software limit cars to 60 mph because that's the speed limit? Of course not. Hyundai provides a disclaimer that the Track mode is not meant for street use. Volkswagen also provides a disclaimer that the Golf R's launch control is not intended for street use. The Mustang GT350 comes with a city sound mode in Europe. It's up to the individual not to be aware of local laws and not break them.
We NEED to relieve this “officer” of his duties immediately y’all. This guy became a cop for the power, not to help people and be a good guy. Not anti-police, but the police are incapable of policing themselves.
I love how cops can just casually handout tickets that could financially cripple almost anyone. $7k for a completely bone stock vehicle? Outta your mind.
That’s the issue with the ticketing system, it only affects those in the lower and middle classes. Some rich dude will fight tooth and nail in court with a top class lawyer and win because he can. But us guys who work regular jobs with families to feed get screwed over when we go out to enjoy the one thing that we barely have time to enjoy, just to have it ruined in a case like this…
I’m a cop and I’m about a minute and a half in and I’m literally sitting here with my mouth open at how he’s speaking to you. This makes cops look awful, no other way to put it. To tell someone they’re going to spend 7k removing a factory option and sound like they’re enjoying breaking the news to you, man this guy has some problems outside of work I would guess. Edit: also certain laws/rules are a joke and that is one I would never enforce knowing about cars a good amount myself and it being a stock car I would just say have a good night drive safe. This whole thing blows my mind but then again California seems like a pretty terrible place in general these days.
We need to start holding individual officers responsible and using civil litigation as the consequence. Don't sue the department, sue the individual officer and make them pay. They might think twice about abusing power if someone can sue the crap out of them.
That'd be great as long as they actually lose in court. Too many times you see cops get away it with nothing but a slap on the wrist even when they were 100% in the wrong (usually a short suspension on paid leave). A crook cop like this guy needs to be sued so badly that they themselves pay for it big time and lose their position permanently to set an example for every other crook cop out there who thinks they can get away with abusing their power. This power tripping by ruining innocent people's lives is just disgusting.
I've been saying basically the same thing for years! Glad to see I'm not the only one. Start procecuting them and before ya know it 3/4 of the government are hiding out in New Zealand.
Trick the driver into admitting his guilt by using track mode illegally on the public streets. That's why so many people say never answer questions that law enforcement or government agency pose upon you
@@404nobrakes well in my mustang I have active exhaust when I put it in track mode it always says “for track only” which is how I assume they get around the decibel limits. So technically track mode is for track use only so I can see how it could be “illegal”
That officer was trying his hardest to escalate the situation as far as he could. I bet it pissed him off more than anything that the guy he pulled over was polite and completely compliant, so he got petty and pulled his registration just because he could. That officer is a toxic mess!
I'm sure its some combination of personality, unhappy/depressed for some outside reason personal problems, jealously of other people seemingly having a good life with new car and or adrenaline junky who was looking for a chase etc. Like the video said, if cop wants to enforce the noise law fine. All he had to do was give him a ticket for excessive noise/disturbance. He knew it wasn't modified, one of the first things he asked was is it in track mode. Cop can feel like he didn't just let it go, and driver would have small fine and learn not to put it in noisy mode around people again. That would seem like the strict but reasonable way to go. He went with the; lets see how much I can ruin this guys day approach.
What did being polite and cooperative do to help in this situation? This is why you don't talk to cops - period. you give them your name and birthday and the required registration/insurance and that's it. If the driver didn't admit he was in track mode, the cop would have had less options on what to fine him for. Admitting to being in track mode made his life a lot more difficult. If he hadn't admitted it most likely the cop could only have given him a ticket for being too loud. If he had to go back to the inspector for loud exhaust the inspector likely would have put it in normal mode and inspected it as usual in normal mode. Then the driver would have got a clean inspection report and the driver could have probably got the ticket thrown out with documentation showing it's under the db limit.
Every car sold in the state of California has to meet the state's standards on noise, pollution, safety, etc. The fact that this car is sold in the state means that there's no legal basis, at all, for his registration to be suspended for driving an unmodified car regardless of how loud it is.
Absolutely! I own a 2022 Camaro ZL1, which I’m sure most would agree is going to be louder than 95 dcb. If the manufacturer sold it to an authorized dealer, that dealership HAS to follow state guidelines/laws for all of the above mentioned. In other words, even if the owner somehow has to change or sell back the vehicle, it’s the dealerships responsibility to cover the costs.
@@marcoortega9594 100% I used to work at a dealer and we had this whole thing over used cars being sold with illegal tint it would come straight back to the dealer and the dealership would have to cover all the cost and fees
California residents are already under so much bull shit. Imagine their cops. I wouldn’t ever step a single toe in that shithole state. Will never spend a single cent in a blue state either. Fuck em.
As someone who works long week days, and has a douchebag who rides/drives down my street seemingly every night. I think that cop is a hero, and I wish he patrolled my street.
I've got to say I'm impressed with the officer. He succeeded at being as unprofessional as possible without literally pulling the citizen from their vehicle and beating them half to death on the street. In my years in law enforcement individuals like this officer were the exact ones you hoped would not be coming to your assistance yet they would always need it because they would escalate every situation and try and use their authority to make themselves right when they were almost always in the wrong.
I've gotten 3 state ref tickets in a miata and 2 in an AW11 MR2 - they've all been interactions like this and all with California CHP. Sherrif and local PD in my counties never messed with it. Highway patrol? Straight to car jail.
Cop here and car enthusiast. That’s absolutely insane. I have never I inspected a car nor have I ever sent anyone to inspection, it’s a waste and time and money for everyone involved (mostly the kids that are just doing stuff as a hobby) I was sent to inspection as a kid for having a loud car growing up and made it my goal to never do that to someone.
Wouldn't the fact that it was presumably sold in, as well as licensed and registered by the state of California completely negate everything the officer was saying. If not how would the dealer be able to sell the car there and how would the driver be able to get plates and insurance for it? All of this assuming the car is still factory standard.
@@jekiewicz unfortunately I don’t know what the California laws are but I would assume what you’re saying is correct. I can’t imagine that a state would allow a dealership to sell an illegal vehicle seeing it was allowed to be registered in the first place.
OMG! I was a cop for years. This cop is just...well...not the brightest. He is an example of why I didn't associate with 90% of cops outside of work. Even at work, it was business with those guys.
Man that Cop is an absolute flog. Guy has issues, and probably some personal vendetta against car enthusiasts for whatever reason. You can hear the "Karen" in his voice.
Too bad we can’t just subject him to what a really loud racing exhaust sounds like, every single night, for the rest of his life. Maybe he’ll calm down again once that happens
This is a prime example of community policing vs policing the community. Instead of educating the driver and allowing them to address the issue, he goes straight into a "punishing" mode to teach the driver a lesson.
If the driver was wrong I would have just given the citation and moved on. No need to be a douche. Moat people would say, "I didn't know" then continue to do what they are not suppose to do.
No law against sport or track mode use, even on public roads. U can ticketed for loud exhaust, BUT the LEO should document sound level (did he have device to measure decibel level). If not, then go to inspection, get vehicle checked in NORMAL mode and that's all that can be done w/o any lawful justification.
Man, that cop got way too much enjoyment out of that. Almost like he was out looking for someone's day to ruin. It's a good thing this kid stayed respectful, because I'm pretty sure the cop would have been delighted to find an excuse to escalate the situation further.
Exactly why he should be lying somewhere in the side of a ditch instead of writing tickets or falsely imprisoning people based on corporate policies or codes
The first step should be to hire a good attorney and instead of suing the dealer or Hyundai sue the police department. These thugs are out of control and have to be put in their place.
@MrComfyFrog. Are you suggesting he go into the capitol with guns blazing, over a cop on a power trip and an incompetent inspector? You're either trolling or tremendously stupid.
yeah ummm the cop is enforcing the law.... true he could have chosen not to enforce this law... but the law is the law... needs to be changed at city level as noise ordinance is city law.
Yeah... it's called "practicing law without a license"... and it's a felony in most states. If I lived in California, I might be inclined to look up the relevant penal code and then make a call to the state AG's office.
@@L8nitedave if anybody tells you to sue because a party is responsible for whatever occurred, it absolutely IS giving legal advice. Now, if the cop said you MIGHT be able to sue the dealership... you'd be correct. Perhaps you should look up the penal code of "practicing law without a license" rather than using your last 2 inebriated brain cells.
How is this ok? Cops can legally harass people for driving factory cars while people actually breaking the law are ignored?!? It's basically legal to steal under a thousand dollars from a store there, but you can't drive a completely stock vehicle??
@@jimbusmaximus4624 When the people you expect do something about such thefts are legally allowed to steal from you (Civil Asset Forfeiture), you shouldn't be surprised about it.
time to sue the inspectors. They are to follow the actual law for their testing. They should compensate you for all the time loss. Tell them they owe for all the uber or taxi rides too. Someone needs to to put precedence for these tyrants.
tack on the extra cost of the trim level, actually tack on the cost of the whole car as it was obviously one of the reasons you bought the vehicle in the first place. then sue for inconvenience and emotional distress facing a large financial burden. the pull over also seems suspicious as they weren't pulled over for speeding, exhibition of power, racing OR ANY OTHER REASON... they are not equipped with db monitors, and its doubtful under normal driving it would have reached full decibel levels. means the officer was fishing.
@@brettleisy356 dB or not they'll have to see the actual sound ordinance for that area. I got pulled over for my stereo system being to loud. Tried to argue the dB line and the sound ordinance of that city was "if the cop can hear it with his window up it is too loud." I tried to counter that a Harley, a diesel, jake brake etc. No avail. But the rest I agree with you completely on.
@@jacehiggs3637 then I would suggest that you made the argument that each person can hear differently, some have better hearing than others. human variables are not admissible in court as evidence. also hearing is subjective just like they cant guess your speed of travel, they must have a machine that is calibrated/inspected regularly. also most "noise ordinance" is not recognized unless zoned and posted. the rulings of being able to pull someone over are very clear as to what violations they can act upon. they cant pull you over for suspicion of not wearing a seat belt, they cant pull you over for suspicion of using or having something like NoS. tail lights, head lights, something dragging crating sparks they can. if the car in question was making 110+ db (about twice as loud) that could be enough suspicion to check for illegal modification. unless the person in the video was racing to redline to make that 101ish dB and the legal limit being 98. that 3 DB is barely noticeable even at max. under most use even heavier use it wouldn't hit 98. the officer clearly made a guess. and a guess isn't admissible in court, ESPECIALLY in the case of a state actor. it sounds like you unfortunately was railroaded in court, which happens far to often.
As soon as he answered that it was in track mode, the cop knew he had ‘em. This should be another lesson to NEVER answer questions to the police. Give them your license and registration and shut the hell up. It doesn’t matter what mode you’re driving in or where you’re going. It’s none of their business and it is not your obligation to help a cop with their investigation.
Any time you get an infraction like this you take their name and badge number and make a formal complaint. Don't accept an apology or the ticket being ripped, make sure it's on record or else this will keep happening. We're dealing with this in Vancouver rn and Porsche and BMW are suing the police here sometime next year. Cops literally sitting outside dealers giving technicians mandatory inspections it's ridiculous.
@@30YearOldBunta Id say wait til most of the techs get stopped, then file class-action!!! That's unreal!!! Im assuming its Vancouver CAN, right?? I don't think my Vancouver has a Porsche dealership LOL
I left that police state twenty years ago and haven't looked back. Even being caught up in the judicial system for traffic violations is a nightmare and will bankrupt many.
I was born in Modesto, California, Stanislaus County, I am fortunate that my mother came home after a failed marriage. I was raised in Alaska and am raising my children here now.
Modern policing is so disturbing. The vast majority absolutely hates interaction with police,simply because of guys like this. He isn’t a judge. He isn’t a jury. He’s supposed to report and defend the law. This toy solider acts like he has personal beef with Hyundai and crackle exhaust. Congrats officer little man. The world hates and fears you. #FTP
I mean look at the way cops treat each other. Straight up threatening each other over jurisdiction. You see the one department where what half the department or 80% failed their mental test and got grounded😭
This isn't "modern policing". This is the communist state of California. You get what you vote for. Then those people tend to whine about it and move to a new state to repeat the process.
The politicians write these imbecilic laws and you vote for these people in California. If the people don't wanna be hassled for idiotic laws like this then stop voting for these authoritarians.
This officer must have gotten picked on a lot in high school for him to have such a massive chip on his shoulder. He sounded absolutely giddy telling the owner of the car he was going to have to 'pay $7000' to 'fix' his stock car. This guy is a good example of what gives LEOs a bad name in the car community. Hopefully the owner gets this resolved and we can all learn from this situation in some way.
In my experience this type of attitude stems from the bullies themselves having to get a job rather than the ones being picked on. They are used to being able to push their weight around as kids and no one prevents it so they just keep doing it in life.
@@glennbeadshaw727 I get your bias as you're against "loud" cars but do you really not see ANY thing wrong with how this cop interacted with the driver? Remove your bias and try to realize how you would wanted to be treated or talked to in regards to something a trivial as this.
Most people have respect when talking to others, but some believe that having a badge puts them above others. Take away the badge and all the weapons they need, you will quickly see that attitude disappear.
Some guy with a loud exhaust made a cuck out of him at an early age. He still resents him for making him watch so he takes it out on stock Hyundai drivers
5 cops in 6 cop cars wrote me a ticket back in 2000 for failure to maintain vehicle ride height. I moved in 2003 and met someone with the same lowered truck as mine. He said he lived in the town where I used to. Maybe a couple months after telling him my story, he got the same ticket. It’s usually that one cop with a hard on for anything custom or modified.
That cop was definitely wrong and needs more training. Probably upset that a Hyundai could take out his cruiser. Easy fix here. Move out of California.
I agree with you 100%. I feel the cop was extremely rude and unprofessional and it’s not like the owner of that vehicle was driving a Radick or anything I think the cop could’ve just like you said, give him a little warning tell him to take it out of track mode and don’t ever do it again but obviously the cop is jealous
cop is dead wrong. I live in Calif. Yes, Track mode is not for streets, The driver can be given a ticket for unsafe driving. But, It's not the car's fault. Like if you drive with the door open, you get a ticket, you don't make the manufacturer weld the doors shut. If you speed, they don't make the manufacturer remove the engine and put in a tiny engine so you can't go fast. He can't pull the registration on the car because you used it incorrectly. Many cops don't understand the laws. It's like when a cop tried to cite a guy for having a go pro on his motorcycle helmet. It's legal, but cop didn't understand law that says the manufacturer can't make a helmet with protrusions. Owners are allowed to attach mikes, cameras, mohawks , whatever. Take cop to court and it will be thrown out.
But the thing is the Hyundai veloster has the pops and bangs too from factory and you turn it on in sports mode I believe. So regardless he can't use the excuse of it being only for track. Sue the fk out of them
Sucks for you. Track mode is legal in Chicago, so are loud exhausts, cais, mods, tunes w pops and crackles and 93 octane premium gasoline. Cops don't blink at them
"He can't pull the registration on the car bc you used it incorrectly" uhhhh hey goofy. you know in the state of CA when signing up for a license you sign a paper saying the police CAN do that? Are you saying someone who's driving dangerously and recklessly and using the vehicle INCORRECTLY should have nothing done to them? You said a whole lot of nothing
@@co0chiesqueen988 you are a Karen and read that all wrong he said it’s not on the manufacture. They built a sports car and someone is miss using. now read this slowly, IT IS NOT THE MANUFACTURES FAULT FOR SOME IDIOT DRIVING LIKE A DICK. We clear now he didn’t say that dude should have been let off but it’s not a issue that the manufacturer can control
This makes me appreciate my one buddy who went to work for Winter Garden PD in Orlando. He did his 6 months basic, then took an additional year of traffic law, hand to hand, and de-escalation training. Completely optional, but he didn't want to go in half baked. His coworkers though? eeeeeeh
Cops dont need more schooling. They know exactly what they are doing. They need to be accountable. They are absolutely unaccountable for any actions and have no oversight. They simply don’t have to know the law or obey it.
brother it's worse than that. they inadvertently screen for people who are aggressive rule followers. the poloce force can't be a bunch of critical thinkers because then they would hardly ever arrest or fine people.combo that with the fact that they also have to be people capable of violence.. scary stuff
I see everyone's in this comment section up in arms about a police officer being mildly stern with some kid with a popping exhaust on a Hyundai. Where are you guys at when the cops are actually killing innocent people?
This just added to this car's legacy. KDM is killing it right now. People are going to respect these cars in the future like they do with old school JDMs
_"You can hear the joy in [the cop's] voice."_ Yeah, you sure can. The pig was really getting his rocks off, telling the perfectly well-behaved vehicle owner about all the bureaucratic crap he was going to have to go through and all the money he was going to have to spend. WTF? It's like the cop had a personal grudge against the driver.
@@Josh-kp8si No. The cop was clearly throwing his weight around and taking great pleasure in describing all the bureaucratic hassles and expenses he was going to subject the car owner to. And then arrogantly presuming to know what the car dealer told him. He was being a total dick.
Should bring this story up to the Audit the Audit RUclips channel. They typically have a very good understanding of the law, while giving possible tips to move forward with the situation.
Even lawyers don't have a good understanding of the law. Instead of providing raw footage, they have to add shit commentary that sways the viewer to their side.
@@killermogle I never said he was a lawyer, just someone that looks at police interactions across the country, and provides feedback based on laws and prior trials that are similar or envolve the same scenario
@@GamingGiant94 The example was to show that some random RUclipsr doesn't have the credentials or relative knowledge to warrant commenting on the legal system in that regard. What he does is, instead of giving people the relevant information and letting them decide for themselves, provides unnecessary feedback that persuades people to hate the police.
@@killermogle not true, I’ve seen multiple videos from him that involve positive feedback for the police departments. One I watched just the other day involved a man recording outside of a business that had cranes on the property, the owners of the business went and talked to the man recording, called the police when the man wouldn’t move off the public sidewalk. A lady from inside the building of the business also called stating that she thought he had a gun in his back pocket. Upon arriving, the police did a pat down search, and found there was no gun, radioed the other incoming officers that there was no threat and to lower their response level, and did not escalate the issue by drawing guns or worse shooting. The officer the said to the man recording and the business owner that recording on public grounds and anything in sight while on public grounds are perfectly legal. So no, he’s not giving the viewpoint that the police is bad, he’s giving advice, feedback etc from an unbiased point of view of the situation.
Insane, California went from being a car enthusiast's go-to state to what we see here, because of new wonky laws and power-trippers like this who give good honest cops a bad rep too.
A few years back I had a friend who lived there show how he would pass the dB test he would wad up and shove steal wool down his exhaust which would quite it down then after use a stretched metal clothes hanger with a hook bent to shove down and get it out. He actually got a cop suspended because of multiple complaints of harassment because he kept getting loud exhaust tickets but each time at state ref it passed. Lol
File a suit. Lol for what! He was a dumb kid with a cheap hyundai with a loud exhaust. He deserved what he got, maybe next time he won't be revving up so high. See how that works?
@Turbo Part XIII v1.1 For sure they don’t. It’s a virtue signaling cover for their actual cause: taxing the crap out of their people to make up for bad and corrupt management. They already draw 35% of their power from other states, and yet they’re on the road to pushing people into buying EVs that they know they can’t run without increasing the strain on the current situation.
As long as you don't use track mode on a public street, there would be no need to refer it for noise testing. Therefore as long as it is used legally there is no need to test if it has equipment that would allow it to operate outside CA standards.
I have only one piece of legal advice: "I don't answer questions". "Why is it backfiring?" "I don't answer questions" "Is it in track mode?" "I don't answer questions" People REALLY need to stop self-snitching. Snitched on himself for running in track mode, snitched on himself for "knowing" the violations, snitched on himself for admitting backfire, etc. "I don't answer questions" and he'll give you a ticket. He'll have to prove it was backfiring, he'll have to prove that it is illegal (which it isn't because it's stock), and so on. But since he admitted to that stuff, now cop doesn't have to prove it, driver has to prove the negative. Much harder to do. Whatever ticket the cop would have given him, take it to court and I guarantee it would be less than the $7,000 the cop states it would be. That being said, that's what you get for living in California. I used to have sympathy for them but it's all run out. Anyone who sticks around in Cali and pays taxes, fees, tickets, etc. is supporting that cancerous hell hole so good riddance. At some point, you've got to take responsibility for your poor choices.
@@TheOherik Yeah, while I generally like this line, the cop can easily pull up the car registration and all that jazz via the plate. But yeah, I agree, don't give them ANYTHING besides your drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance.
In this case, and with this officer this would be the correct response. In most cases if you’re just friendly and polite, the officer will just let you go with a warning. They just want probably cause to pull you over to see if they smell alcohol on your breath or something similar. Once they see your a normal upstanding citizen, they’ll let you go on your merry way…obviously, not with this guy. But they video is clearly edited, so I’m not sure what was said in between cuts. I like to give the benefit of the doubt to the police, but something clearly went wrong here.
This is a prime example why police are so well liked. I stay as cognizant of my surroundings as possible and put it back to sport or normal when ever I see or WAZE informs a cop is near. I've even programmed a custom N mode without the crackles & pops.
The legal advice i give to the owner is take it to court and have a judge throw it all out. I was sent to the ref by a cop and I fought it in court and won. Take the paperwork to DMV and boom it all goes away. Also take it to another state ref and do another test with normal mode and they have to sign you off.
This is exactly what he needs to do. Go to court and Fight it. Prove its stock with dealer and referee statements. The cop will likely not even show up and it will get dismissed
There should be proof it passed the exhaust and loudness test prior to entering the U.S.A or it wouldn't have been on the dealers lot, all of the paper trail should available some where online for the owner to print out. Since the Hyundai dealership hasn't contacted him to resolve the issue file a case under the lemon law and ask for double the price of the car in damages and mental distress he's had over this issue.
The officer told driver that California law requires dealerships to tell buyer that it is illegal to operate track mode on the city street. The driver needed to use common sense.
@@darryldykes7269 How does he know that that was disclosed? 🤔 there’s lots of things that are supposed to be disclosed but there’s shady dealerships that won’t tell you because they know they’ll get away with it… 🤷🏾♀️ selling Lemons are illegal in California but yet Hyundai is still doing it… 🤣
@@darryldykes7269 Actually, it is not a law in California or any other state. If it was... the dealerships would tell you. Plus, car manufacturers would NOT be putting different car driving modes on new cars for that reason. So obviously they wouldn't put different modes if it was illegal etherway. It's a Hyundai. Tons of cars have had the same features/modes for years now.
the cop caused quite a conundrum for this owner who was polite the whole entire time! I would sue the officer when this is all over for time, money and punitive damages.
Be aware, while the officer was definitely not very nice, there is no law saying he has to. The officer was legally correct that the exhaust was too loud by California standards at least in track mode. so he would lose the case and it would cost him both his and the police officers lawyer fees which would exceed any gains.
Same thing happened to me in my 2018 M2 in Orange County. Pulled over for a loud exhaust; cop goes on to tell me that "sport mode is illegal, that's for the track only, you can't drive in that mode on the streets".....I'm pretty sure a prius and most cars these days come with a sport mode. What are these CA cops smoking??
This exactly why California is look at as corrupt. He should lawyer up and counter sue the state by simple fact the car is stock. The cop saying they need to remove a stock profile should be considered a modification from stock
@@Mouwcat true but the desible law in California is for older vehicles. He can fight it, it’s just gonna be a pain. I’m sure with a good lawyer it can get resolved
This isn’t really a California issue, this is an issue in a specific instance and with a specific officer. I live in California, I have owned multiple fast/loud cars (Z06, Focus RS, Charger SRT8, Camaro SS 1LE, etc), and I’ve never experienced anything remotely like this.
when he said "you're gonna spend 7 grand on this car right now" I'd have immediately lost it. there's so many better ways that cop could have done his job and gotten his point across without essentially bullying a guy who didn't do anything wrong. all he had to say was "in my county" (or whatever he his state trooper idk) they aren't supposed to sell these cars like this and register it. instead of putting the innocent law abiding citizen out to pasture like he's the bad guy. relax officer, I know you can't afford an ELANTRA but please don't be rude to the guy who can. I see this all the time with exotics never sport trims on economy cars though. if you're a car enthusiast and living in California, why don't you move somewhere that won't fine you for your stock car.
Being a California resident for most of my 62 years, I can honestly say that every motor officer I have ever met was a d bag no matter city or state and you meet a lot driving a tow truck. But most of all people need to learn 4 simple words " I don't answer questions"
@Turbo Part XIII v1.1 If you've done something to be arrested for, sure. "Don't talk" is the tactic of criminals and lawyers who defend and coach those criminals.
My buddy was driving my GTI when the serpentine belt shredded itself. When the tow truck driver was unloading the car at the shop after hours, 3 cops pulled up and demanded to know what he was doing. Apparently the driver just shook his head and kept lowering my car off the bed.
@@killermogle getting arrested doesn't matter, it's the conviction that is important. You can get arrested for any suspicious activity and you might not even need to go to court.
@Turbo Part XIII v1.1 Agreed, but I have had... let's say "many" dealings with officers of the law and I can assure you that, unless you have something to hide, honesty is the best policy.
No way our little turbo 4 banger is causing this much trouble how do hellcat and corvette owners even make it to the grocery store in Cali with cops like this
Bro I came here to say the same thing lmao. Then there are so many supercars that are louder. How do they even get around without getting stopped all the time??
Little tips: plea the 5th. Give your driver's and registration and just plea the 5th. Cops ask if you are in track mode: tell the cops you didn't realize that this car could act as a locomotive. Being dumb isn't illegal.
You can definitely hear the cop's mom coming out of his voice. She must have talked to him like that as a kid. The part I hate is when he assured the driver that the salesman told him he was informed. As if he was presiding over the sale. I can tell you from working in a dealer, many salespeople hardly know the basics of any given model, they'll tell ya anything just to make the sale.
I heard some dealers have 18 year olds working for them, as the staff has no clue how to program the radio, set the clock, etc. Original Top Gear, they had to bring in kids to set up a couple of Hot Hatches for performance comparison! Jeremy, Richard & James had no clue!
That state is just the icing on the cake. I can't believe people still live in California under such ridiculous regulations not just on cars, but multiple things. Hoping for the best for this guy.
@@Indominus_Force dwb is literally a thing..I worry about being pulled over because of how I look and people on here bitching about getting a ticket they could prevent because of an exhaust that is selectable as in choice. This cop is a dummy but he is too kind of 🤷🏿♂️
I grew up in California during the Muscle Car era. Headers, Turbo mufflers and burn outs on the street were the common thing. The car industry was a huge thing in there. The states CARB and other agencies have relentlessly focused on destroying one of the largest single industries the state has. The insane statements by the cop sounded like training has taken place to scare every motorist he stops. I move out of the state decades ago and have no desire to return.
I’ve lived here for over 50 years and the car culture is just as strong as ever. I was harassed for loud exhausts back when I was 18. This is nothing new. A lot of it depends on where you drive and the car that you drive. The last few years the car scene here has been affected a lot because of the takeovers and similar behavior that pisses off a lot of people who vote. Police is some areas crack down on any car that fits the profile. But most cities like where I live in LA don’t bother anyone with this nonsense. Plenty of cars in my area with obviously illegal exhausts.
Uhh no. Stay in California. We don't want californian sociopaths ruining the rest of the country. You guys screwed up your home, dont come to mine to screw mine up. Crabs in a bucket.
It is what they get. You want to live there you pay the price. Cop basically trying to escalate the stop. What reason does he need to drive in track mode on the highway?
@@leftyo9589Communism must be great for creating companies like Apple, Tesla, Google, Oracle, Uber, HP, EA, etc plus the 4th largest economy in the world. 😂
95 decibles only applies to commercial vehicles.. however, he can apeal it to the courts and his registration suspension will be paused until a hearing. At the hearing, apeal the cops decision.. most of thr time, they wont show, so automatic dismissal. Also, leaving the phone numbe4 to the police station will spark public outcry cuz 1 person alone cant do a thing
I'm not certain on California's laws regarding driving while in track mode, but if the vehicle was tested incorrectly, I would suggest contacting a lawyer and going after the inspectors for damages.
Hopefully this guy has already contacted a lawyer and is just following the procedure they know wont work until it causes undue harm. Then they can start taking people in front of a judge.
How is he going to explain what he told the cop? It's on tape. Wouldn't he already be in this place the next time he got inspected if he hadn't been doing something he knew was illegal?
@@L8nitedave He's talking about how it was tested/inspected after the fact. The inspectors said it was "the law" to test the vehicle in it's loudest mode/setting when in fact the law says every vehicle is to be tested in its default normal settings. So of course the vehicle failed the inspection because the tested it in track mode which is much louder than the default normal mode.
@@red5standingby419 Except the law clearly states "includes but is not limited to non-original equipment" . Therefore no equipment on the vehicle can exceeded 95db. The long and the short of it is as long as you don't use the loud mode on the street and a cop cites it, there is never a need to test it in all modes. Simple poor decision making can be seen as "normal operation" as the driver has demonstrated this as "normal".
The officer is wrong, but the driver didn’t point it out. This is not a “track option” it is a stock exhaust for street use. You should be able to have the dealer certify it is stock, which should comply with California law.
He "should" be allowed to create a custom setting with the exhaust set to normal. Everything would still be N except the exhaust. Sooo, are fuckin Harleys illegal in California? Or do they just have to change the exhaust system? Plus, Harleys are probably the loudest street bike but there are other bike makes louder than an Elantra. And yes, the cop was a complete asshole. They say there are just "a few bad cops"...he found one. The kid didn't argue, he apologized, and so on but the cop immediately jumped in his shit. The kid obviously has audio of what went down. I hope he showed it to the dealer...and I'd love to hear what the dealer said...probably threw his arms up in the air and said "oh well, sucks to be you!" (Sorry but this REALLY pisses me off. I have a neighbor with a Harley and he works nights. So every night about 12:30am, I'm awakened. I used to like Harleys but no more!).
@@maxhunt2644 to answer the Harley question, there are two versions, the normal version and the Californian compliant version. different intake system to make emissions, different computer settings, again to make emissions. and the "stock" exhaust is very weak in the sound department on both versions. anyone outside of California this is the first modification anyone does. if you find a loud Harley in Cali then they are trying to be sneaky with aftermarket pipes. my 2020 Road Glide sounded like a @#$%ing sewing machine til my after market pipes came in. also its not the MAKE of the big that makes them loud, my loudest bike thus far was a Honda VTX 1800. and Ive been drowned out by the random passing sport bike. so its not type of bike either. its intake, tune, exhaust, and cam.
@@ENtense You have to take it to court and go through a judge to throw that whole case out. I'm telling you I had to do the same thing when I owned an RX7.
Doesnt matter if the driver pointed it out. I was pulled over for an exhaust and the cop told me every car in CA is required to have a muffler. I asked what about the cars that were sold without them IN CA? He said there are no such cars. I said sure are, SRT4 did not have them, and a couple trucks currently being sold do not have them. He called me a liar and said I have no idea what I am talking about and handed me my ticket.
Yeah, the cop is in the wrong but the guy in an absolute moron. He was literally agreeing with every single thing the cop was saying. Almost as if he thought he could kiss his ass enough to not get a ticket AFTER THE FACT that the officer already told him that he is done for. I almost don't feel bad for the driver for simply being an idiot.
@@tedbell4416 America has something called the 5th amendment. uninformed people with bad advice like you are the reason why this dumb kid is paying the price for full blown confessing and agreeing to accusations by a cop ON CAMERA imstead of at the very least having the chance of defending himself in court. You can't defend yourself against any crime or ticket/ violation once you've basically confessed with evidence.
1. Even if the officer is right he was pretty rude. 2. It is legally sold in CA so sounds like a bigger issue than the buyer should be dealing with. 3. Next time you get pulled over flip it to Normal mode and say it wasn't my car let me rev it for you lol. This is another reason on my long list I never visit CA.
@@theruleoffire its clearly not his fault its a stock option. Are you challenged? He didnt break any laws. Hes driving his stock car in N mode which is not specifically a track mode.
The owner can higher a lawyer and fight it in court since they didn’t test it correctly. The owner can sue the officer for damages after he gets his car registered again. The owner can also move to another state with said vehicle where it can be registered and never deal with California again.
The problem is that Even though it wasn't tested correctly the car still ended up being able to fail the test after being certified it was stock thus not really giving him much of a stance in court
@@Mouwcat The stance is that it wasn’t tested correctly so the car failed. If there is nothing else the owner can do then they should sue the dealership if the owner didn’t sign any waivers stating the dealership can’t be held liable.
@@Mouwcat LOL, so what? If the test wasn't conducted according to the law then it's legally invalid and will be thrown out in court. Not to mention, if the vehicle did not comply with the law when sold new then the owner cannot be held liable, it's an issue between the manufacturer and the state.
@@Johnny-Five if ur living in commiefornia and have out of state plates then that wont work because you dont live in that state. but if you had ur LLC company in another state and the car was under ur company name then that something you could get away with
that cop literally could not wait to tell the owner they're going to be screwed and forced to pay thousands of dollars. it's like he got joy from making the hyaundi owner's life miserable
I'm having trouble believing this driver didn't know it was illegal to drive this car on the street in track mode. Pretending to think "stock" means the same thing as "unintentionally" breaking the law was a foolish thing to attempt. I bet officers get sick of hearing that. But yeah I can see how they need a few examples to stop the "do it until you get caught" crowd.
@@TheGuruStud Loud exhaust is not illegal on public streets? Wow I've got quite a bit of experience in courtrooms that suggests otherwise. I can see why this cop did this now. Maybe he's right, this guy should sue the dealer. Did you know speeding is illegal too, even if your car will do it stock?
Two options come to mind. First, you can restrict the intake. Meaning, slow the air flow incoming. Like, cover half of the air cleaner in some way. On the dirty side. As not to allow something to get ingested into the engine. Then, see what that does to the noise level. Or find a replacement muffler or add a muffler to the exhaust. I'd try to do the intake first and check the noise level myself.
Just bring it to a dealer for an inspection. Have the dealership document there are no modifications. Return to referee and proceed to cram dealer invoice down their throat and get the vehicle registration reinstated. File a complaint against the officer. File a lawsuit for compensatory and injunctive relief in an unlimited small claims lawsuit.
Exactly this. I'm thankful my state doesn't do state refs but I have friends in California. It's all a bunch of bullshit and a cash grab like everything else is out there. I'd just look the cop straight in the eyes and say, "That's cool then, I just wont drive the car on the road ever again, I'll keep it on the track this time. I'd rather pay the track owners than the state"
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Why don’t you just message Whistlindiesel himself since you have a whole RUclips page? You have way more pull in getting him to respond to you directly compared to a regular person wth
@@the_nguy9123 I work at a hyundai dealership one of our parts guys has a 22 velositer N and he got a ticket about a week ago for improper muffler and his car is bone stock (in Canada)
Reminds me of 2019 Santa Fe owner in another State pulled over for, and I kid you not, 'illegal headlights'. Cop was convinced the factory headlights were too low and needed to be put back in the right spot.
I'll be honest If your a car enthusiasts stay away from California it's just ridiculous over there there was similar situation with a non pp veloster N owner that car breaks their exhaust laws from factory and they couldn't do anything about it since the non pp doesn't have the active exhaust
California has the biggest enthusiast car culture in the country (probably the world), and that’s not going to change. Clearly something is wrong with this specific case/officer though!
I've personally heard the back fire from this car and it's no where as loud as a Harley on the road or a Lamborghini lol. I hope the owner gets things figured out.
Sounds like he should sue both the company that tested his car on the "loudest possible setting" and the department for suspending his registration on a stock vehicle for "modified exhaust", after the vehicle was already stated to be stock for inconvenience, harassments, and court/lawyer cost as well as possibly costs for testing/anything else like registration. That's insane.
I would imagine with so much publicity- I think it might be taken care behind closed doors - I think if a good attorney grabs the case it’ll be a nice reward for the driver
“Is it in track mode?” “Officer I have no idea what you are talking about” Don’t ever admit shit to the cops even if what they say holds some truth. Play the role of a stupid person who happens to have a nice car
In fact, he should have pulled over and shut the vehicle off, that way when the cop asked if it's in track mode he could have just said it's off and been honest.
Disconnect the mode button while in normal mode and get it retested. Once it passes, reconnect the button and your good. It's simply removing the trim around the button and unplugging it.
@@terrybrown6057 no, you disconnect the button, that's it. No warning, nothing. The button is simply a switch that closes an already open circuit. Keeping the circuit permanently open will not cause an error. Of course this is more complicated than pressing a button since it's likely this button is an SMD button soldered directly to a board
Good way to add other crimes. You don't think they would notice the button not doing anything? I mean how would you "claim" to have fixed it? Wouldn't anything you said after that be a lie?
A cop cant suspend your registration, courts can if you dont fix it but that law hasnt been signed it yet at least as of 4 days ago. Loud exhuast is a fix it ticket with a fine attached. He needs to go to the court date with that note from the dealer that shows its stock and get a note from that testing center that they wont recheck him. It will get dismissed. A dealer isnt just gonna remove "N mode" this story is fishy as hell.
@@ENtense The cops here are VERY uneducated. I was pulled over for an exhaust and the cop told me every car in CA is required to have a muffler. I asked what about the cars that were sold without them IN CA? He said there are no such cars. I said sure are, SRT4 did not have them, and a couple trucks currently being sold do not have them. He called me a liar and said I have no idea what I am talking about and handed me my ticket. Which I wasnt even mad about the ticket, my car was LOUD as I was in the process of swapping out different setups to see what I liked most and was planning to change it anyway. I was mad about his blatant ignorance and actively spreading misinformation.
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Why dose the exhaust make those popping noises anyway?? I've seen comments how owners like the popping noise, but why do hyndai give it that sound (sooner or later someone is going to put flame throwers in😂)
That cop was the definition of a man who works extra hours so his wife and her boyfriend can have more time together.
LOL
lol that statement is so true.
there was a cop that lived across the street from us he was a complete asshole always talked down to us and treated us with complete disrespect.
the story starts with the lawn care guy he usually showed up cut the grass and was done and gone within 30 to 40 minutes . both me and my girlfriend noticed after seeing him show up and cut the grass he would pull up cut the grass then put away his equipment heather would be standing outside and he would walk back up to the door where she was standing he gave her a hug and grabbed her ass they then walked into the house. i don't know what they did but we sat there waiting for him to come back out he was in there for an hour she let him out and walked out to the truck with him and talked for a bit then she walked back in the house and he drove off.
we then realized why this guy was in a bad mood all the time the next time we seen him he was rude and i said i know why your always in a bad mood not getting any huh?
he got so pissed off at me and we got into a heated argument i then slipped and told him about the lawn care guy and his wife.
was the best thing i ever did, he eventually confronted her i heard them arguing out in there back yard and the following week he got a small u haul truck i thought he was kicking her out but turns out the house was hers she kicked him out.no more asshole cop to worry about.
and i bet you could guess who lives there now with her that lawn care guy.
@@TheSpidersoftheworld Some would say, he was a "cut above the rest". Glad she found someone better, I can only imagine if he's like that at work how he was to her, and lawn boy with a nice butt and I'm sure landscaped areas would be a nice improvement over a stinky old pig.
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Dude it's just California. It's the worst stare. Super communist and definitely the bottom of the shoe for a place to live. If you want no freedom, then move to California.
The cop is definitely one of those type that hate import cars. He's definitely on a power trip.
Agreed!
Cop Must have a 2004 mustang at home and think it’s a beast
@@patrickmurray4084 a V6 mustang too
Or a mach-E 🙄
I can picture him tens of old police interceptors in his backyard.... 🤦♂️
Wow. I'm astonished at how this cop doesn't even for one second consider that he's talking to a human. He's getting off so hard on ruining someone. Disgusting behavior.
Well, that's how a lot of cops are. Not really surprising. There is a certain personality type who are drawn to the profession who can be psychoanalyzed to have the same overlapping characteristics.
This is California. All the good cops were run off by the "defund the police" and dumb coof laws
That officer is a perfect example of police overreach. His attitude leaves EVERYTHING to be desired. His personality type should be kept out of uniform to avoid this kind of abuse of power. Not everyone is suitable for positions of authority. A feeb brain cant process the job and it's humanity simultaneously, making officers like this one a liability to the public.
If this guy was really human he wouldn't be driving around regular streets in the track mode
@@aethrya I guess enforcing the law is less important than hurting your feelings
I would have contacted a lawyer ASAP. Hopefully this guy gets a good payout
@Adam A. he doesn’t have to do any of that Lmao
@Adam A. yeah i agree, just for the sake of passing the test that is..
What payout? The car is louder than California law in Track mode. The solution is to not drive it in Track mode.
@@ryankwan1934 isn’t the cop forcing the person to remove track mode entirely from his car? He can’t even drive in eco or normal mode anymore
California is out of control with stuff like that, and the cop was clearly being a complete jerk. If you get pulled, get it into Normal mode and NEVER admit to any wrongdoing. It would be his word against yours, he didn't have a db meter to reference.
Right. Also it’s not even like the exhaust is overly loud. It’s louder the pops are nice but it’s not that loud
Didn't need a dB meter to suspend his registration apparently so that wouldn't help all that much.
Hyundai manual siads that its the owners risk to drive the car in full N exhuast mode in certain places were in disturbs the peace if residents
@@opadilla123 Unfortunately there's no timestamp on his footage, however it does appear to be some traffic around and from what I can see, commercial buildings on the right. So I don't particularly have any qualms about him being in N mode. For example, I get home around 5AM, I'm in N mode until I get to a residential area - that makes sense to me.
If the car has not been modded they cant do crap. The car was allowed in the US that means the feds approved it. Sue the dealer yeah right officer good luck with that wonder what this cop does when he sees and hell cat or demon. The driver should of said Ill put it in sport mode then the cop will hear the same exhaust note this kid should fight it.
“Hey, your car is a little noisy, so I’m going to forcibly suspend your driving privileges and force you to spend thousands. Seems reasonable to me.” - that cop
Seems to me that the more a state drifts towards communism, the more the police act like the KGB.
Lmao they hire anyone literally
The amount of excited glee that Officer expressed was disgusting and unbecoming of his profession
I bet the cop slept well that night, knowing his jurisdiction is a safer place without this hooligan Elantra driver dangerously emitting 3dB more from his stock exhaust than it should.
Cop: here is my dealer referral code, tell them I pulled you over for my referral bonus
That dude had incredible self control to speak to that rude aggressive cop in such a calm and polite manner...
Yeah I probably would have blown a gasket in that situation. Cop would have shot me cause there is no way anyone is talking to me the way that pig talked to him
He was an idiot. Dont confuse self control with being completely daft.
Extreme self control for sure.
Probably scared of getting shot!
I would just start laughing hysterically like ok budd and start talking about how your fucking me over over nothing
The police officer's actions were deplorable, but what really gets me is how the state handled it afterward. How was this not immediately thrown out by the DMV or a judge boggles my mind. Even after it all with the dealership invoice in hand, it still wasn't thrown out or reduced to a simple noise pollution ticket... I can't imagine how this guy feels right now. Modern bureaucracy at work.
Thats goofy ass California for you
that is how they make their money
...because the guy's car is louder than what California allows when it's in Track mode. The solution is to either remove Track mode or add more baffles to the exhaust. This isn't hard.
@@ryankwan1934 they’re allowing a corporation to produce products that violate state law. There should be a temporary exemption passed on these models and a mandatory recall to remedy the issue.
I don’t see how crushing individual citizens with fines or removing their ability to travel to work is the correct solution here.
The laws as written are more geared towards citizens illegally modifying their vehicles not manufacturers (who are very well regulated by the state and federal government) mass producing illegal vehicles and the buck stopping with the citizen.
@@AlphabetCo-lk9jo The Track mode is meant for the Track. The State tests it in normal mode. Do we mechanically or software limit cars to 60 mph because that's the speed limit? Of course not. Hyundai provides a disclaimer that the Track mode is not meant for street use.
Volkswagen also provides a disclaimer that the Golf R's launch control is not intended for street use. The Mustang GT350 comes with a city sound mode in Europe. It's up to the individual not to be aware of local laws and not break them.
We NEED to relieve this “officer” of his duties immediately y’all. This guy became a cop for the power, not to help people and be a good guy. Not anti-police, but the police are incapable of policing themselves.
He doesn’t give a fuck about the public or their safety he sounded so happy just to ruin someones life for fun it’s a game to these tyrants
Nah I'm super anti cop, the role itself makes all cops into bastards like this. Any job that strips your identiy will do thst for you
That man should be fired, investigated, forced to repay all the people he scammed and then jailed.
There needs to be consequences for abuse of power.
@@JonathanPaulin wont happen. cops are almost ALWAYS corrupt
He sounds like he is a narcissist power tripper for sure.
I love how cops can just casually handout tickets that could financially cripple almost anyone. $7k for a completely bone stock vehicle? Outta your mind.
And if you ask them what the tickets they hand out all day are going to cost they always say they have no idea.
@@TheRealDrJoey I'm pretty sure they know an approximate number.
@@TrackMonkey327 Of course. Just being pricks about it.
That’s the issue with the ticketing system, it only affects those in the lower and middle classes. Some rich dude will fight tooth and nail in court with a top class lawyer and win because he can. But us guys who work regular jobs with families to feed get screwed over when we go out to enjoy the one thing that we barely have time to enjoy, just to have it ruined in a case like this…
Lol people actually live in California
I’m a cop and I’m about a minute and a half in and I’m literally sitting here with my mouth open at how he’s speaking to you. This makes cops look awful, no other way to put it. To tell someone they’re going to spend 7k removing a factory option and sound like they’re enjoying breaking the news to you, man this guy has some problems outside of work I would guess.
Edit: also certain laws/rules are a joke and that is one I would never enforce knowing about cars a good amount myself and it being a stock car I would just say have a good night drive safe. This whole thing blows my mind but then again California seems like a pretty terrible place in general these days.
Bingo, this cop is a rat, plain and simple.
Cops making cops looking awful is shocking to you?
Florida/Texas is for car enthusiast... Not Cali.
Also, it’s not even an “option”. It’s a variant if the car. There aren’t any options on it.
Did you enforce unconstitutional drug laws as a cop?
We need to start holding individual officers responsible and using civil litigation as the consequence. Don't sue the department, sue the individual officer and make them pay. They might think twice about abusing power if someone can sue the crap out of them.
The problem is police unions. We need to start suing and "defunding" police unions.
That'd be great as long as they actually lose in court. Too many times you see cops get away it with nothing but a slap on the wrist even when they were 100% in the wrong (usually a short suspension on paid leave). A crook cop like this guy needs to be sued so badly that they themselves pay for it big time and lose their position permanently to set an example for every other crook cop out there who thinks they can get away with abusing their power. This power tripping by ruining innocent people's lives is just disgusting.
I've been saying basically the same thing for years! Glad to see I'm not the only one. Start procecuting them and before ya know it 3/4 of the government are hiding out in New Zealand.
Hahaha. You should do some research. Qualified Immunity protects that cop from virtually any civil lawsuits.
@@conchobar Press charges, they get paid vacation.
I love how he goes from clearly never having heard of this car existing to suddenly being an expert on how they work...
Trick the driver into admitting his guilt by using track mode illegally on the public streets. That's why so many people say never answer questions that law enforcement or government agency pose upon you
@@deejayyy1681 is it actually illegal to use track mode on the street??
@@404nobrakes Nope
Oh, I hate people who act like that.🤬 completely ignorant about something one minute, and the next minute, an instant expert!🤔🤬
@@404nobrakes well in my mustang I have active exhaust when I put it in track mode it always says “for track only” which is how I assume they get around the decibel limits. So technically track mode is for track use only so I can see how it could be “illegal”
That officer was trying his hardest to escalate the situation as far as he could. I bet it pissed him off more than anything that the guy he pulled over was polite and completely compliant, so he got petty and pulled his registration just because he could. That officer is a toxic mess!
Couldn't agree more. 👍👍👍
I’ve interacted with that
I'm sure its some combination of personality, unhappy/depressed for some outside reason personal problems, jealously of other people seemingly having a good life with new car and or adrenaline junky who was looking for a chase etc.
Like the video said, if cop wants to enforce the noise law fine. All he had to do was give him a ticket for excessive noise/disturbance. He knew it wasn't modified, one of the first things he asked was is it in track mode. Cop can feel like he didn't just let it go, and driver would have small fine and learn not to put it in noisy mode around people again. That would seem like the strict but reasonable way to go. He went with the; lets see how much I can ruin this guys day approach.
What did being polite and cooperative do to help in this situation? This is why you don't talk to cops - period. you give them your name and birthday and the required registration/insurance and that's it. If the driver didn't admit he was in track mode, the cop would have had less options on what to fine him for. Admitting to being in track mode made his life a lot more difficult. If he hadn't admitted it most likely the cop could only have given him a ticket for being too loud. If he had to go back to the inspector for loud exhaust the inspector likely would have put it in normal mode and inspected it as usual in normal mode. Then the driver would have got a clean inspection report and the driver could have probably got the ticket thrown out with documentation showing it's under the db limit.
@@h82fail more like ruin the guys year
Every car sold in the state of California has to meet the state's standards on noise, pollution, safety, etc. The fact that this car is sold in the state means that there's no legal basis, at all, for his registration to be suspended for driving an unmodified car regardless of how loud it is.
exactly if that was the case hellcats and every other loud car from factory would never be sold in cali
Absolutely! I own a 2022 Camaro ZL1, which I’m sure most would agree is going to be louder than 95 dcb. If the manufacturer sold it to an authorized dealer, that dealership HAS to follow state guidelines/laws for all of the above mentioned. In other words, even if the owner somehow has to change or sell back the vehicle, it’s the dealerships responsibility to cover the costs.
A mustang gt with oem performance exhaust get louder than 95, I test drive one and it was louder than my Sti with a catback rated at 93 db by far.
@@marcoortega9594 100% I used to work at a dealer and we had this whole thing over used cars being sold with illegal tint it would come straight back to the dealer and the dealership would have to cover all the cost and fees
California is a squid filled state..any regulations applied towards cars don't apply to motorcycles
“It’s your money,not mine”…that’s why so many cops violate the publics rights. It’s always the public that pays for their mistakes.
that got me im mean wow
I couldn’t imagine being such a miserable person that they think their actions as an officer were justified.
California residents are already under so much bull shit. Imagine their cops. I wouldn’t ever step a single toe in that shithole state. Will never spend a single cent in a blue state either. Fuck em.
Cop seems very resentful. Does he not know, the elantra n is affordable even on a Cops salary?
As someone who works long week days, and has a douchebag who rides/drives down my street seemingly every night.
I think that cop is a hero, and I wish he patrolled my street.
It's because it is all about revenue.
@@mikeshogunlee there’s always a handful of sheep that agree with tyrannical government behavior, doesn’t make it right
I've got to say I'm impressed with the officer. He succeeded at being as unprofessional as possible without literally pulling the citizen from their vehicle and beating them half to death on the street.
In my years in law enforcement individuals like this officer were the exact ones you hoped would not be coming to your assistance yet they would always need it because they would escalate every situation and try and use their authority to make themselves right when they were almost always in the wrong.
I've gotten 3 state ref tickets in a miata and 2 in an AW11 MR2 - they've all been interactions like this and all with California CHP. Sherrif and local PD in my counties never messed with it. Highway patrol? Straight to car jail.
agreedos 100 percentos!
i had a cop rip my inspection sticker off my brand new car saying it was fake.. she literally ripped it off... :(
Its calls driver wasnt black.
@@phdjharmacist they love to escalate when they can, especially for car guys.
Cop here and car enthusiast. That’s absolutely insane. I have never I inspected a car nor have I ever sent anyone to inspection, it’s a waste and time and money for everyone involved (mostly the kids that are just doing stuff as a hobby) I was sent to inspection as a kid for having a loud car growing up and made it my goal to never do that to someone.
what about cut springs?
Wouldn't the fact that it was presumably sold in, as well as licensed and registered by the state of California completely negate everything the officer was saying. If not how would the dealer be able to sell the car there and how would the driver be able to get plates and insurance for it? All of this assuming the car is still factory standard.
@@jekiewicz unfortunately I don’t know what the California laws are but I would assume what you’re saying is correct. I can’t imagine that a state would allow a dealership to sell an illegal vehicle seeing it was allowed to be registered in the first place.
@@zpe1200 hopefully people don't do that any more, that is downright dangerous
Do you stand around and do nothing when you see a cop or co worker violating a citizens rights?
OMG! I was a cop for years. This cop is just...well...not the brightest. He is an example of why I didn't associate with 90% of cops outside of work. Even at work, it was business with those guys.
Officer was so rude. Forcibly telling the owner that the dealer told them, and then saying they have to pay $7k.
Man that Cop is an absolute flog.
Guy has issues, and probably some personal vendetta against car enthusiasts for whatever reason. You can hear the "Karen" in his voice.
Might have something to do with all the sideshow dipshittery and wannabe f1 drivers on Angeles crest/rodeo.
Too bad we can’t just subject him to what a really loud racing exhaust sounds like, every single night, for the rest of his life.
Maybe he’ll calm down again once that happens
This is a prime example of community policing vs policing the community. Instead of educating the driver and allowing them to address the issue, he goes straight into a "punishing" mode to teach the driver a lesson.
They are the Highway Revenue Service run by insane Karens.
If the driver would have only gotten out shooting up heroin and shit on the sidewalk, everything would have been just fine.
If the driver was wrong I would have just given the citation and moved on. No need to be a douche.
Moat people would say, "I didn't know" then continue to do what they are not suppose to do.
One of Gavin Newsom’s brown shirts.
Educating the driver? Kid knew what he was doing.
No law against sport or track mode use, even on public roads. U can ticketed for loud exhaust, BUT the LEO should document sound level (did he have device to measure decibel level). If not, then go to inspection, get vehicle checked in NORMAL mode and that's all that can be done w/o any lawful justification.
So, seems that cop was in “asshole” mode. Really hope this results well for the driver after all this.
Sir I was in N mode... seems like youre in A mode because youre being rude.
The cop should pay 7000 dollars and go back to police academy to remove the asshole mode
I can fix the asshole mode. It’s the 44 calibre setting.
Best comment I've seen in awhile
Man, that cop got way too much enjoyment out of that. Almost like he was out looking for someone's day to ruin. It's a good thing this kid stayed respectful, because I'm pretty sure the cop would have been delighted to find an excuse to escalate the situation further.
Add it to the long list of reasons not to live in California!
Exactly why he should be lying somewhere in the side of a ditch instead of writing tickets or falsely imprisoning people based on corporate policies or codes
@@brandondavis104 i've had cops be much worse in indiana for no clear reason at all
@@brandondavis104 still better than any other state
@@fxzn Weather only. Tax crime lawsuits illegals. Just to name a few
The first step should be to hire a good attorney and instead of suing the dealer or Hyundai sue the police department. These thugs are out of control and have to be put in their place.
I would try talking to the sgt or even the prosecutor to have it thrown out before spending money on a lawyer.
@@andrewward4246 What good is it to simply be thrown out? This guy should be compensated and the police officer and department sent a message,
Thugs? they are right wing racists. Use the correct terminology.
@MrComfyFrog. Are you suggesting he go into the capitol with guns blazing, over a cop on a power trip and an incompetent inspector? You're either trolling or tremendously stupid.
yeah ummm the cop is enforcing the law.... true he could have chosen not to enforce this law... but the law is the law... needs to be changed at city level as noise ordinance is city law.
The best decision you could make for yourself and your car is to get out of that crazy state.
Well here's something else. The officer isn't permitted to give legal advice. So I believe the dealership can now sue the officer/ department.
Yeah... it's called "practicing law without a license"... and it's a felony in most states. If I lived in California, I might be inclined to look up the relevant penal code and then make a call to the state AG's office.
You are both wrong. He definitely shouldn't be telling people what to do, but he's far from practicing law.
It would be a civil suit. It's not the same as what you are calling "legal advice".
@@L8nitedave if anybody tells you to sue because a party is responsible for whatever occurred, it absolutely IS giving legal advice. Now, if the cop said you MIGHT be able to sue the dealership... you'd be correct. Perhaps you should look up the penal code of "practicing law without a license" rather than using your last 2 inebriated brain cells.
Whatever he said was not even in our law.
that officer sounded so happy. People wonder why officers aren't looked highly upon.
How is this ok? Cops can legally harass people for driving factory cars while people actually breaking the law are ignored?!? It's basically legal to steal under a thousand dollars from a store there, but you can't drive a completely stock vehicle??
@@jimbusmaximus4624 When the people you expect do something about such thefts are legally allowed to steal from you (Civil Asset Forfeiture), you shouldn't be surprised about it.
He's just doing his job keeping illegal cars off the road. California runs a tight ship
time to sue the inspectors. They are to follow the actual law for their testing. They should compensate you for all the time loss. Tell them they owe for all the uber or taxi rides too. Someone needs to to put precedence for these tyrants.
This 💯
tack on the extra cost of the trim level, actually tack on the cost of the whole car as it was obviously one of the reasons you bought the vehicle in the first place. then sue for inconvenience and emotional distress facing a large financial burden. the pull over also seems suspicious as they weren't pulled over for speeding, exhibition of power, racing OR ANY OTHER REASON... they are not equipped with db monitors, and its doubtful under normal driving it would have reached full decibel levels. means the officer was fishing.
Not going to work lol..
@@brettleisy356 dB or not they'll have to see the actual sound ordinance for that area.
I got pulled over for my stereo system being to loud. Tried to argue the dB line and the sound ordinance of that city was "if the cop can hear it with his window up it is too loud."
I tried to counter that a Harley, a diesel, jake brake etc. No avail.
But the rest I agree with you completely on.
@@jacehiggs3637 then I would suggest that you made the argument that each person can hear differently, some have better hearing than others. human variables are not admissible in court as evidence. also hearing is subjective just like they cant guess your speed of travel, they must have a machine that is calibrated/inspected regularly. also most "noise ordinance" is not recognized unless zoned and posted.
the rulings of being able to pull someone over are very clear as to what violations they can act upon. they cant pull you over for suspicion of not wearing a seat belt, they cant pull you over for suspicion of using or having something like NoS. tail lights, head lights, something dragging crating sparks they can. if the car in question was making 110+ db (about twice as loud) that could be enough suspicion to check for illegal modification.
unless the person in the video was racing to redline to make that 101ish dB and the legal limit being 98. that 3 DB is barely noticeable even at max. under most use even heavier use it wouldn't hit 98. the officer clearly made a guess. and a guess isn't admissible in court, ESPECIALLY in the case of a state actor.
it sounds like you unfortunately was railroaded in court, which happens far to often.
As soon as he answered that it was in track mode, the cop knew he had ‘em. This should be another lesson to NEVER answer questions to the police. Give them your license and registration and shut the hell up. It doesn’t matter what mode you’re driving in or where you’re going. It’s none of their business and it is not your obligation to help a cop with their investigation.
Any time you get an infraction like this you take their name and badge number and make a formal complaint. Don't accept an apology or the ticket being ripped, make sure it's on record or else this will keep happening. We're dealing with this in Vancouver rn and Porsche and BMW are suing the police here sometime next year.
Cops literally sitting outside dealers giving technicians mandatory inspections it's ridiculous.
They're waiting for the techs to go on a test drive in a customer's car or personal vechicle?
@@LRLogic customer cars, bone stock Porsches getting $600 tickets and mandatory inspections
@@30YearOldBunta Id say wait til most of the techs get stopped, then file class-action!!! That's unreal!!!
Im assuming its Vancouver CAN, right?? I don't think my Vancouver has a Porsche dealership LOL
Car makers should win. Some places cops are just ass holes. 😒
how y’all live in such a crappy state
I left that police state twenty years ago and haven't looked back. Even being caught up in the judicial system for traffic violations is a nightmare and will bankrupt many.
I was born in Modesto, California, Stanislaus County, I am fortunate that my mother came home after a failed marriage. I was raised in Alaska and am raising my children here now.
just about every state is pulling similar bullshit with their police, blaming california for this means ignoring problems in our normal states
Like California doesn't have any problems other than a bone stock car being too loud.
@@obeseperson only in those blue states.
Had a friend in the Corps that brought his truck from Texas and California gave him all types of shit about getting it registered.
Modern policing is so disturbing. The vast majority absolutely hates interaction with police,simply because of guys like this. He isn’t a judge. He isn’t a jury. He’s supposed to report and defend the law. This toy solider acts like he has personal beef with Hyundai and crackle exhaust. Congrats officer little man. The world hates and fears you. #FTP
In Florida no one cares unless its a cop from California then maybe
We live in a police state full of corrupt and/or incompetent officers - and they wonder why we hate them
I mean look at the way cops treat each other. Straight up threatening each other over jurisdiction. You see the one department where what half the department or 80% failed their mental test and got grounded😭
This isn't "modern policing". This is the communist state of California. You get what you vote for. Then those people tend to whine about it and move to a new state to repeat the process.
The politicians write these imbecilic laws and you vote for these people in California. If the people don't wanna be hassled for idiotic laws like this then stop voting for these authoritarians.
Just purchased one today and I live in California.. Hopefully all good come my way
This officer must have gotten picked on a lot in high school for him to have such a massive chip on his shoulder. He sounded absolutely giddy telling the owner of the car he was going to have to 'pay $7000' to 'fix' his stock car. This guy is a good example of what gives LEOs a bad name in the car community. Hopefully the owner gets this resolved and we can all learn from this situation in some way.
In my experience this type of attitude stems from the bullies themselves having to get a job rather than the ones being picked on. They are used to being able to push their weight around as kids and no one prevents it so they just keep doing it in life.
If you want some kind of respect from the rest of us citizenry then you need to stop driving those cars in track mode deafening everybody around you
@@glennbeadshaw727 I get your bias as you're against "loud" cars but do you really not see ANY thing wrong with how this cop interacted with the driver? Remove your bias and try to realize how you would wanted to be treated or talked to in regards to something a trivial as this.
Most people have respect when talking to others, but some believe that having a badge puts them above others. Take away the badge and all the weapons they need, you will quickly see that attitude disappear.
Some guy with a loud exhaust made a cuck out of him at an early age. He still resents him for making him watch so he takes it out on stock Hyundai drivers
That cop is hunting for those cars. He had that whole story ready to go.
I bet he voted for Biden
5 cops in 6 cop cars wrote me a ticket back in 2000 for failure to maintain vehicle ride height. I moved in 2003 and met someone with the same lowered truck as mine. He said he lived in the town where I used to. Maybe a couple months after telling him my story, he got the same ticket. It’s usually that one cop with a hard on for anything custom or modified.
@@Anti-19th you are kidding yourself if you any California cop has voted Democrat for the last 30 years
Yeah, he knew exactly what it was. Sounds like he's said it a few times before.
@@MFXdump Or a whole team !
That cop was definitely wrong and needs more training. Probably upset that a Hyundai could take out his cruiser. Easy fix here. Move out of California.
I already moved out. No such nonsense in Pennsylvania.
Move out of California, but most importantly, leave that shit in cali. Don’t bring it with you.
@@arthurmroyce seriously, they’ll help you LS swap a Prius there👀
Yea come here to ny. No laws like that, and if you don’t wanna stop for the police, they have a no chase policy here lmfao
They don’t need to be a cop or have any position of power period.
I agree with you 100%. I feel the cop was extremely rude and unprofessional and it’s not like the owner of that vehicle was driving a Radick or anything I think the cop could’ve just like you said, give him a little warning tell him to take it out of track mode and don’t ever do it again but obviously the cop is jealous
cop is dead wrong. I live in Calif. Yes, Track mode is not for streets, The driver can be given a ticket for unsafe driving. But, It's not the car's fault. Like if you drive with the door open, you get a ticket, you don't make the manufacturer weld the doors shut. If you speed, they don't make the manufacturer remove the engine and put in a tiny engine so you can't go fast. He can't pull the registration on the car because you used it incorrectly. Many cops don't understand the laws. It's like when a cop tried to cite a guy for having a go pro on his motorcycle helmet. It's legal, but cop didn't understand law that says the manufacturer can't make a helmet with protrusions. Owners are allowed to attach mikes, cameras, mohawks , whatever. Take cop to court and it will be thrown out.
But the thing is the Hyundai veloster has the pops and bangs too from factory and you turn it on in sports mode I believe. So regardless he can't use the excuse of it being only for track. Sue the fk out of them
Sucks for you. Track mode is legal in Chicago, so are loud exhausts, cais, mods, tunes w pops and crackles and 93 octane premium gasoline. Cops don't blink at them
Just about every 3rd car or truck has a loud exhaust here. Noone minds
"He can't pull the registration on the car bc you used it incorrectly" uhhhh hey goofy. you know in the state of CA when signing up for a license you sign a paper saying the police CAN do that? Are you saying someone who's driving dangerously and recklessly and using the vehicle INCORRECTLY should have nothing done to them? You said a whole lot of nothing
@@co0chiesqueen988 you are a Karen and read that all wrong he said it’s not on the manufacture. They built a sports car and someone is miss using. now read this slowly, IT IS NOT THE MANUFACTURES FAULT FOR SOME IDIOT DRIVING LIKE A DICK.
We clear now he didn’t say that dude should have been let off but it’s not a issue that the manufacturer can control
Cops like this guy are why they should have to have more schooling.
The fact that literally ANYONE can be a cop in less than 8 months is crazy.
This makes me appreciate my one buddy who went to work for Winter Garden PD in Orlando. He did his 6 months basic, then took an additional year of traffic law, hand to hand, and de-escalation training. Completely optional, but he didn't want to go in half baked. His coworkers though? eeeeeeh
Cops dont need more schooling. They know exactly what they are doing. They need to be accountable. They are absolutely unaccountable for any actions and have no oversight. They simply don’t have to know the law or obey it.
brother it's worse than that. they inadvertently screen for people who are aggressive rule followers. the poloce force can't be a bunch of critical thinkers because then they would hardly ever arrest or fine people.combo that with the fact that they also have to be people capable of violence.. scary stuff
I see everyone's in this comment section up in arms about a police officer being mildly stern with some kid with a popping exhaust on a Hyundai. Where are you guys at when the cops are actually killing innocent people?
Four months with previous Walmart experience. Don’t tell Walmart I said that; don’t want them coming after me.
they can't clean up the streets and stop the crime but they can stop the track mode. Wow
Best reply ever!
This just added to this car's legacy. KDM is killing it right now. People are going to respect these cars in the future like they do with old school JDMs
Too bad it’s an ugly car. Hyundai designed a nice motor. Wonder who they copied it from 😂
Police officer really enjoys his job. You can hear the joy in his voice.
He needs to try that in Compton.
Will be remembered as a hero at his funeral!
_"You can hear the joy in [the cop's] voice."_
Yeah, you sure can. The pig was really getting his rocks off, telling the perfectly well-behaved vehicle owner about all the bureaucratic crap he was going to have to go through and all the money he was going to have to spend. WTF? It's like the cop had a personal grudge against the driver.
@@Milesco you ever think the cop just wanted to get the overly loud vehicle off the street?
@@Josh-kp8si No. The cop was clearly throwing his weight around and taking great pleasure in describing all the bureaucratic hassles and expenses he was going to subject the car owner to. And then arrogantly presuming to know what the car dealer told him. He was being a total dick.
Should bring this story up to the Audit the Audit RUclips channel. They typically have a very good understanding of the law, while giving possible tips to move forward with the situation.
Even lawyers don't have a good understanding of the law. Instead of providing raw footage, they have to add shit commentary that sways the viewer to their side.
@@killermogle I never said he was a lawyer, just someone that looks at police interactions across the country, and provides feedback based on laws and prior trials that are similar or envolve the same scenario
@@GamingGiant94 The example was to show that some random RUclipsr doesn't have the credentials or relative knowledge to warrant commenting on the legal system in that regard. What he does is, instead of giving people the relevant information and letting them decide for themselves, provides unnecessary feedback that persuades people to hate the police.
@@killermogle not true, I’ve seen multiple videos from him that involve positive feedback for the police departments. One I watched just the other day involved a man recording outside of a business that had cranes on the property, the owners of the business went and talked to the man recording, called the police when the man wouldn’t move off the public sidewalk. A lady from inside the building of the business also called stating that she thought he had a gun in his back pocket. Upon arriving, the police did a pat down search, and found there was no gun, radioed the other incoming officers that there was no threat and to lower their response level, and did not escalate the issue by drawing guns or worse shooting. The officer the said to the man recording and the business owner that recording on public grounds and anything in sight while on public grounds are perfectly legal. So no, he’s not giving the viewpoint that the police is bad, he’s giving advice, feedback etc from an unbiased point of view of the situation.
@@GamingGiant94 That's a big outlier then
Insane, California went from being a car enthusiast's go-to state to what we see here, because of new wonky laws and power-trippers like this who give good honest cops a bad rep too.
Be careful who you vote for.
Hold your politicians accountable~
A few years back I had a friend who lived there show how he would pass the dB test he would wad up and shove steal wool down his exhaust which would quite it down then after use a stretched metal clothes hanger with a hook bent to shove down and get it out. He actually got a cop suspended because of multiple complaints of harassment because he kept getting loud exhaust tickets but each time at state ref it passed. Lol
This guys needs a good attorney and he needs to file a suit against the ofcr and the state ref. This is total nonsense.
File a suit. Lol for what! He was a dumb kid with a cheap hyundai with a loud exhaust. He deserved what he got, maybe next time he won't be revving up so high. See how that works?
It’s a good thing they’re so “on top” of the emissions situation in CA. That’s clearly the biggest issue they have these days 🤦♂️
yup, they have no time for the rampant crime and drug use.
@Turbo Part XIII v1.1 For sure they don’t. It’s a virtue signaling cover for their actual cause: taxing the crap out of their people to make up for bad and corrupt management. They already draw 35% of their power from other states, and yet they’re on the road to pushing people into buying EVs that they know they can’t run without increasing the strain on the current situation.
clearly...
CA cops are there to make money not protect n serve
@@leftyo9589 too busy with ur mom
The car is legally sold in California
The car has obviously met California standards
Give them the brochure
As long as you don't use track mode on a public street, there would be no need to refer it for noise testing. Therefore as long as it is used legally there is no need to test if it has equipment that would allow it to operate outside CA standards.
Many cars sold don't meet state or local ordinance. For example, many cars are sold new with tinted back windows.
GET HIM TO TALK TO A JUDGE THAT WILL REPRIMAND THE OFFICER AND THROW THE CASE OUT!!!!
I have only one piece of legal advice: "I don't answer questions".
"Why is it backfiring?"
"I don't answer questions"
"Is it in track mode?"
"I don't answer questions"
People REALLY need to stop self-snitching. Snitched on himself for running in track mode, snitched on himself for "knowing" the violations, snitched on himself for admitting backfire, etc.
"I don't answer questions" and he'll give you a ticket. He'll have to prove it was backfiring, he'll have to prove that it is illegal (which it isn't because it's stock), and so on. But since he admitted to that stuff, now cop doesn't have to prove it, driver has to prove the negative. Much harder to do. Whatever ticket the cop would have given him, take it to court and I guarantee it would be less than the $7,000 the cop states it would be.
That being said, that's what you get for living in California. I used to have sympathy for them but it's all run out. Anyone who sticks around in Cali and pays taxes, fees, tickets, etc. is supporting that cancerous hell hole so good riddance. At some point, you've got to take responsibility for your poor choices.
The driver was probably under the impression that police are in that career to help the public
if you want that information, subpoena me & the car
@@TheOherik Yeah, while I generally like this line, the cop can easily pull up the car registration and all that jazz via the plate. But yeah, I agree, don't give them ANYTHING besides your drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance.
@@b-chroniumproductions3177 Probably. I glad he learned the truth, though.
In this case, and with this officer this would be the correct response. In most cases if you’re just friendly and polite, the officer will just let you go with a warning. They just want probably cause to pull you over to see if they smell alcohol on your breath or something similar. Once they see your a normal upstanding citizen, they’ll let you go on your merry way…obviously, not with this guy.
But they video is clearly edited, so I’m not sure what was said in between cuts. I like to give the benefit of the doubt to the police, but something clearly went wrong here.
This is a prime example why police are so well liked. I stay as cognizant of my surroundings as possible and put it back to sport or normal when ever I see or WAZE informs a cop is near. I've even programmed a custom N mode without the crackles & pops.
The legal advice i give to the owner is take it to court and have a judge throw it all out. I was sent to the ref by a cop and I fought it in court and won. Take the paperwork to DMV and boom it all goes away. Also take it to another state ref and do another test with normal mode and they have to sign you off.
This is exactly what he needs to do. Go to court and Fight it. Prove its stock with dealer and referee statements. The cop will likely not even show up and it will get dismissed
@@Mustangs4Dinner yeah thats the only way he can win this shit.
100% agree.
There should be proof it passed the exhaust and loudness test prior to entering the U.S.A or it wouldn't have been on the dealers lot, all of the paper trail should available some where online for the owner to print out. Since the Hyundai dealership hasn't contacted him to resolve the issue file a case under the lemon law and ask for double the price of the car in damages and mental distress he's had over this issue.
I love how the officer is trying to tell the owner of this vehicle, that HE WAS informed about this “illegal track mode”.
The officer told driver that California law requires dealerships to tell buyer that it is illegal to operate track mode on the city street. The driver needed to use common sense.
@@darryldykes7269 How does he know that that was disclosed? 🤔 there’s lots of things that are supposed to be disclosed but there’s shady dealerships that won’t tell you because they know they’ll get away with it… 🤷🏾♀️ selling Lemons are illegal in California but yet Hyundai is still doing it… 🤣
@@darryldykes7269 Actually, it is not a law in California or any other state. If it was... the dealerships would tell you. Plus, car manufacturers would NOT be putting different car driving modes on new cars for that reason. So obviously they wouldn't put different modes if it was illegal etherway. It's a Hyundai. Tons of cars have had the same features/modes for years now.
@@itsRudeGal because it’s in the paper work when you buy the fucking car
The way he handled the situation was so unbelievable, if he didnt have a dash cam i would think he was lying🤦🏽♀️
the cop caused quite a conundrum for this owner who was polite the whole entire time! I would sue the officer when this is all over for time, money and punitive damages.
Be aware, while the officer was definitely not very nice, there is no law saying he has to. The officer was legally correct that the exhaust was too loud by California standards at least in track mode. so he would lose the case and it would cost him both his and the police officers lawyer fees which would exceed any gains.
It is against the the law to sue the officer and this is on a federal level ruling.
@@martinlazar9420 you can definitely sue the cop for overreach and damages resulting from improperly applying the law
@@TheDealer6373 He absolutely can sue the officer for a civil rights violation.
@@alecb8509 yes, but, thanks to qualified immunity, can he win?
Same thing happened to me in my 2018 M2 in Orange County. Pulled over for a loud exhaust; cop goes on to tell me that "sport mode is illegal, that's for the track only, you can't drive in that mode on the streets".....I'm pretty sure a prius and most cars these days come with a sport mode. What are these CA cops smoking??
I am blown away by some officers' actions, seems to me that maybe, just maybe there are real criminals that need to be caught.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you are "blown Away" stay tuned, we are out to get you. You will comply!
Yeah especially in California of all places.
This exactly why California is look at as corrupt. He should lawyer up and counter sue the state by simple fact the car is stock. The cop saying they need to remove a stock profile should be considered a modification from stock
Correct lawyer up and defend his case he can have his money given back then some. Potentially enough to pay off the car if still owes
It's not California it's police don't confuse politics with reality..this shitty cops is the rule not an exception
He would have the ability to fight it if his car passed the inspection but since it failed he doesn't really have much ground to stand on 😒
@@Mouwcat true but the desible law in California is for older vehicles. He can fight it, it’s just gonna be a pain. I’m sure with a good lawyer it can get resolved
This isn’t really a California issue, this is an issue in a specific instance and with a specific officer. I live in California, I have owned multiple fast/loud cars (Z06, Focus RS, Charger SRT8, Camaro SS 1LE, etc), and I’ve never experienced anything remotely like this.
when he said "you're gonna spend 7 grand on this car right now" I'd have immediately lost it. there's so many better ways that cop could have done his job and gotten his point across without essentially bullying a guy who didn't do anything wrong. all he had to say was "in my county" (or whatever he his state trooper idk) they aren't supposed to sell these cars like this and register it. instead of putting the innocent law abiding citizen out to pasture like he's the bad guy. relax officer, I know you can't afford an ELANTRA but please don't be rude to the guy who can. I see this all the time with exotics never sport trims on economy cars though. if you're a car enthusiast and living in California, why don't you move somewhere that won't fine you for your stock car.
Yep. I am, and I did (a car enthusiast, and move somewhere that won't fine me for my stock car.). 😊
The fact that he bought it California too. Well said.
Being a California resident for most of my 62 years, I can honestly say that every motor officer I have ever met was a d bag no matter city or state and you meet a lot driving a tow truck. But most of all people need to learn 4 simple words " I don't answer questions"
Great way to get arrested
@Turbo Part XIII v1.1 If you've done something to be arrested for, sure. "Don't talk" is the tactic of criminals and lawyers who defend and coach those criminals.
My buddy was driving my GTI when the serpentine belt shredded itself. When the tow truck driver was unloading the car at the shop after hours, 3 cops pulled up and demanded to know what he was doing. Apparently the driver just shook his head and kept lowering my car off the bed.
@@killermogle getting arrested doesn't matter, it's the conviction that is important. You can get arrested for any suspicious activity and you might not even need to go to court.
@Turbo Part XIII v1.1 Agreed, but I have had... let's say "many" dealings with officers of the law and I can assure you that, unless you have something to hide, honesty is the best policy.
No way our little turbo 4 banger is causing this much trouble how do hellcat and corvette owners even make it to the grocery store in Cali with cops like this
Agreed!
Bro I came here to say the same thing lmao. Then there are so many supercars that are louder. How do they even get around without getting stopped all the time??
Or Harley’s!
Screw that how about the harleys?
@@916n0rcal harleys dont get smogged nothing they can really do
Man this guy was so patient. You could really tell he was being tested lmao
Little tips: plea the 5th. Give your driver's and registration and just plea the 5th.
Cops ask if you are in track mode: tell the cops you didn't realize that this car could act as a locomotive. Being dumb isn't illegal.
You can definitely hear the cop's mom coming out of his voice. She must have talked to him like that as a kid.
The part I hate is when he assured the driver that the salesman told him he was informed. As if he was presiding over the sale. I can tell you from working in a dealer, many salespeople hardly know the basics of any given model, they'll tell ya anything just to make the sale.
Yup, as soon as I heard that, cringe
I heard some dealers have 18 year olds working for them, as the staff has no clue how to program the radio, set the clock, etc. Original Top Gear, they had to bring in kids to set up a couple of Hot Hatches for performance comparison! Jeremy, Richard & James had no clue!
That state is just the icing on the cake. I can't believe people still live in California under such ridiculous regulations not just on cars, but multiple things. Hoping for the best for this guy.
😂 try being black in Florida..gtfoh
@@slow_rednline4874 I don't see what that has to do with his car...
@@slow_rednline4874 california is just a shithole lol
I don't live here by choice.
@@Indominus_Force dwb is literally a thing..I worry about being pulled over because of how I look and people on here bitching about getting a ticket they could prevent because of an exhaust that is selectable as in choice. This cop is a dummy but he is too kind of 🤷🏿♂️
I grew up in California during the Muscle Car era. Headers, Turbo mufflers and burn outs on the street were the common thing. The car industry was a huge thing in there. The states CARB and other agencies have relentlessly focused on destroying one of the largest single industries the state has. The insane statements by the cop sounded like training has taken place to scare every motorist he stops. I move out of the state decades ago and have no desire to return.
Then the criminals took over and ruined it 😥
Florida is where it’s at nowadays
As a car enthusiast, I also left California decades ago.
Very happy these days in Florida. Cheers!
California is intentionally driving out residents so they can sell the state to China
I’ve lived here for over 50 years and the car culture is just as strong as ever. I was harassed for loud exhausts back when I was 18. This is nothing new. A lot of it depends on where you drive and the car that you drive. The last few years the car scene here has been affected a lot because of the takeovers and similar behavior that pisses off a lot of people who vote. Police is some areas crack down on any car that fits the profile. But most cities like where I live in LA don’t bother anyone with this nonsense. Plenty of cars in my area with obviously illegal exhausts.
That officer needs a "why are you giving me attitude" "why are you getting all active though" line
What a stupid law! This is totally absurd. The cop was so unprofessional and so subjective. I'm sorry for California drivers...
The police officer was clearly trying to escalate the situation. I feel so sorry for California residents. Vote with your feet... leave.
Amen. If I was forced to live in Commifornia I'd buy a California compliant gun and blow my brains out!
What a cesspool.
Uhh no. Stay in California. We don't want californian sociopaths ruining the rest of the country. You guys screwed up your home, dont come to mine to screw mine up. Crabs in a bucket.
Well half of them that leave just end up voting for the same crap that led them to leave in the first place.
True… they should stay
It is what they get. You want to live there you pay the price. Cop basically trying to escalate the stop. What reason does he need to drive in track mode on the highway?
The true beauty of California is the fact that it makes every other place look like such a great place to live!
its called commiefornia for a reason.
@@leftyo9589Communism must be great for creating companies like Apple, Tesla, Google, Oracle, Uber, HP, EA, etc plus the 4th largest economy in the world. 😂
95 decibles only applies to commercial vehicles.. however, he can apeal it to the courts and his registration suspension will be paused until a hearing.
At the hearing, apeal the cops decision.. most of thr time, they wont show, so automatic dismissal.
Also, leaving the phone numbe4 to the police station will spark public outcry cuz 1 person alone cant do a thing
I'm not certain on California's laws regarding driving while in track mode, but if the vehicle was tested incorrectly, I would suggest contacting a lawyer and going after the inspectors for damages.
Hopefully this guy has already contacted a lawyer and is just following the procedure they know wont work until it causes undue harm. Then they can start taking people in front of a judge.
How is he going to explain what he told the cop? It's on tape. Wouldn't he already be in this place the next time he got inspected if he hadn't been doing something he knew was illegal?
@@L8nitedave He's talking about how it was tested/inspected after the fact. The inspectors said it was "the law" to test the vehicle in it's loudest mode/setting when in fact the law says every vehicle is to be tested in its default normal settings. So of course the vehicle failed the inspection because the tested it in track mode which is much louder than the default normal mode.
@@red5standingby419 Except the law clearly states "includes but is not limited to non-original equipment" . Therefore no equipment on the vehicle can exceeded 95db. The long and the short of it is as long as you don't use the loud mode on the street and a cop cites it, there is never a need to test it in all modes. Simple poor decision making can be seen as "normal operation" as the driver has demonstrated this as "normal".
The car cannot have track mode at all. Even having the capability is against the law in Commiefornia
The officer is wrong, but the driver didn’t point it out. This is not a “track option” it is a stock exhaust for street use. You should be able to have the dealer certify it is stock, which should comply with California law.
They did, but considering nothing was “fixed”, they won’t allow for a 2nd test.
He "should" be allowed to create a custom setting with the exhaust set to normal. Everything would still be N except the exhaust. Sooo, are fuckin Harleys illegal in California? Or do they just have to change the exhaust system? Plus, Harleys are probably the loudest street bike but there are other bike makes louder than an Elantra. And yes, the cop was a complete asshole. They say there are just "a few bad cops"...he found one. The kid didn't argue, he apologized, and so on but the cop immediately jumped in his shit. The kid obviously has audio of what went down. I hope he showed it to the dealer...and I'd love to hear what the dealer said...probably threw his arms up in the air and said "oh well, sucks to be you!" (Sorry but this REALLY pisses me off. I have a neighbor with a Harley and he works nights. So every night about 12:30am, I'm awakened. I used to like Harleys but no more!).
@@maxhunt2644 to answer the Harley question, there are two versions, the normal version and the Californian compliant version. different intake system to make emissions, different computer settings, again to make emissions. and the "stock" exhaust is very weak in the sound department on both versions. anyone outside of California this is the first modification anyone does. if you find a loud Harley in Cali then they are trying to be sneaky with aftermarket pipes. my 2020 Road Glide sounded like a @#$%ing sewing machine til my after market pipes came in.
also its not the MAKE of the big that makes them loud, my loudest bike thus far was a Honda VTX 1800. and Ive been drowned out by the random passing sport bike. so its not type of bike either. its intake, tune, exhaust, and cam.
@@ENtense You have to take it to court and go through a judge to throw that whole case out. I'm telling you I had to do the same thing when I owned an RX7.
Doesnt matter if the driver pointed it out. I was pulled over for an exhaust and the cop told me every car in CA is required to have a muffler. I asked what about the cars that were sold without them IN CA? He said there are no such cars. I said sure are, SRT4 did not have them, and a couple trucks currently being sold do not have them. He called me a liar and said I have no idea what I am talking about and handed me my ticket.
Why on earth does anyone still answer ANYTHING a cop asks???! You DO NOT have to answer any questions. This kid just made his life 10x harder.
Because people fear police.
Yeah, the cop is in the wrong but the guy in an absolute moron.
He was literally agreeing with every single thing the cop was saying.
Almost as if he thought he could kiss his ass enough to not get a ticket AFTER THE FACT that the officer already told him that he is done for.
I almost don't feel bad for the driver for simply being an idiot.
Wouldn't have changed a thing. This cop was going to do what he did the second he decided to initiate the stop.
With this cop are you kidding? Yeah pull that and while he's sitting in jail he can thank that guy Michael on RUclips
@@tedbell4416 America has something called the 5th amendment.
uninformed people with bad advice like you are the reason why this dumb kid is paying the price for full blown confessing and agreeing to accusations by a cop ON CAMERA imstead of at the very least having the chance of defending himself in court.
You can't defend yourself against any crime or ticket/ violation once you've basically confessed with evidence.
“You’re gonna spend about $7000”
You’re gonna polish my knob lmao
1. Even if the officer is right he was pretty rude. 2. It is legally sold in CA so sounds like a bigger issue than the buyer should be dealing with. 3. Next time you get pulled over flip it to Normal mode and say it wasn't my car let me rev it for you lol. This is another reason on my long list I never visit CA.
Yea. Really should've switched back as soon as you saw the lights coming for ya
So again he broke the law and wants to cry about it. Please!!
He should have not broken the law!!
@@theruleoffire he didn't
@@theruleoffire its clearly not his fault its a stock option. Are you challenged? He didnt break any laws. Hes driving his stock car in N mode which is not specifically a track mode.
The owner can higher a lawyer and fight it in court since they didn’t test it correctly. The owner can sue the officer for damages after he gets his car registered again. The owner can also move to another state with said vehicle where it can be registered and never deal with California again.
The problem is that Even though it wasn't tested correctly the car still ended up being able to fail the test after being certified it was stock thus not really giving him much of a stance in court
@@Mouwcat The stance is that it wasn’t tested correctly so the car failed. If there is nothing else the owner can do then they should sue the dealership if the owner didn’t sign any waivers stating the dealership can’t be held liable.
@@Mouwcat LOL, so what? If the test wasn't conducted according to the law then it's legally invalid and will be thrown out in court. Not to mention, if the vehicle did not comply with the law when sold new then the owner cannot be held liable, it's an issue between the manufacturer and the state.
@@Johnny-Five if ur living in commiefornia and have out of state plates then that wont work because you dont live in that state. but if you had ur LLC company in another state and the car was under ur company name then that something you could get away with
that cop literally could not wait to tell the owner they're going to be screwed and forced to pay thousands of dollars. it's like he got joy from making the hyaundi owner's life miserable
I'm having trouble believing this driver didn't know it was illegal to drive this car on the street in track mode. Pretending to think "stock" means the same thing as "unintentionally" breaking the law was a foolish thing to attempt. I bet officers get sick of hearing that. But yeah I can see how they need a few examples to stop the "do it until you get caught" crowd.
@@L8nitedave it's not illegal
@@TheGuruStud Loud exhaust is not illegal on public streets? Wow I've got quite a bit of experience in courtrooms that suggests otherwise. I can see why this cop did this now. Maybe he's right, this guy should sue the dealer. Did you know speeding is illegal too, even if your car will do it stock?
Two options come to mind. First, you can restrict the intake. Meaning, slow the air flow incoming. Like, cover half of the air cleaner in some way. On the dirty side. As not to allow something to get ingested into the engine. Then, see what that does to the noise level. Or find a replacement muffler or add a muffler to the exhaust. I'd try to do the intake first and check the noise level myself.
Just bring it to a dealer for an inspection. Have the dealership document there are no modifications. Return to referee and proceed to cram dealer invoice down their throat and get the vehicle registration reinstated. File a complaint against the officer. File a lawsuit for compensatory and injunctive relief in an unlimited small claims lawsuit.
This.
Based
Exactly this. I'm thankful my state doesn't do state refs but I have friends in California. It's all a bunch of bullshit and a cash grab like everything else is out there. I'd just look the cop straight in the eyes and say, "That's cool then, I just wont drive the car on the road ever again, I'll keep it on the track this time. I'd rather pay the track owners than the state"
I will update this as soon as I get more info. If anyone can tell WhistlinDiesel to message me on IG, I have info he requested on this situation. Thank you 🙏🏻
Ok im going to go spam his videos lol
Why don’t you just message Whistlindiesel himself since you have a whole RUclips page? You have way more pull in getting him to respond to you directly compared to a regular person wth
@@Josh-vk7qu I’ve messaged him already, likely just went into spam messages for him.
I'm interested in his situation. I can't believe this is not thrown out in court. The car is stock! Same as my Veloster N.
@@the_nguy9123 I work at a hyundai dealership one of our parts guys has a 22 velositer N and he got a ticket about a week ago for improper muffler and his car is bone stock (in Canada)
Imagine being upset about an Elantra being noisy
Meanwhile I blow by on my Harley popping like a drive-by and I get the old smile and wave 😂
Reminds me of 2019 Santa Fe owner in another State pulled over for, and I kid you not, 'illegal headlights'.
Cop was convinced the factory headlights were too low and needed to be put back in the right spot.
I'll be honest If your a car enthusiasts stay away from California it's just ridiculous over there there was similar situation with a non pp veloster N owner that car breaks their exhaust laws from factory and they couldn't do anything about it since the non pp doesn't have the active exhaust
California has the biggest enthusiast car culture in the country (probably the world), and that’s not going to change. Clearly something is wrong with this specific case/officer though!
I've personally heard the back fire from this car and it's no where as loud as a Harley on the road or a Lamborghini lol. I hope the owner gets things figured out.
That cop was entirely too enthusiastic about this.
I wonder how this cop votes.........
.......yeah I don't wonder that at all.
Sounds like he should sue both the company that tested his car on the "loudest possible setting" and the department for suspending his registration on a stock vehicle for "modified exhaust", after the vehicle was already stated to be stock for inconvenience, harassments, and court/lawyer cost as well as possibly costs for testing/anything else like registration. That's insane.
I would imagine with so much publicity- I think it might be taken care behind closed doors - I think if a good attorney grabs the case it’ll be a nice reward for the driver
“Is it in track mode?”
“Officer I have no idea what you are talking about”
Don’t ever admit shit to the cops even if what they say holds some truth. Play the role of a stupid person who happens to have a nice car
Agree. Anything you say can and WILL be used against you.
That's a good point, if he'd kept his mouth shut he might not be in this situation. Never help the cops, let them figure it out for themselves.
In fact, he should have pulled over and shut the vehicle off, that way when the cop asked if it's in track mode he could have just said it's off and been honest.
"Do you know why I stopped you?"
"Well if you don't know, how am I supposed to!?"
😉
@@mechsupernova And from what I've read it would start up in Normal so there's no proof beyond "I heard it back fire so I stopped him".
Dude, here’s the legal advice-
Take that cop to court or file a complaint so that it goes on his record
This should of been a verbal caution for a loud exhaust at best. The smugness is outrageous!
Verbal doesn't work, because it just keeps being ignored.
Disconnect the mode button while in normal mode and get it retested. Once it passes, reconnect the button and your good. It's simply removing the trim around the button and unplugging it.
You'll probably break something else by disconnecting stuff.. It'll flash warnings up like a Christmas tree light
@@terrybrown6057 you could get around that by plugging a dummy button in. they can press all day nothing happens.
@@6226superhurricane right faff on tho
@@terrybrown6057 no, you disconnect the button, that's it. No warning, nothing. The button is simply a switch that closes an already open circuit. Keeping the circuit permanently open will not cause an error. Of course this is more complicated than pressing a button since it's likely this button is an SMD button soldered directly to a board
Good way to add other crimes. You don't think they would notice the button not doing anything? I mean how would you "claim" to have fixed it? Wouldn't anything you said after that be a lie?
Wow this is absolutely insane. Please keep us updated on this I’d love to know the outcome of his situation. I really hope he gets it resolved
I'm going to straight pipe my car and then make a trip to California for a couple weeks to see how they feel
A cop cant suspend your registration, courts can if you dont fix it but that law hasnt been signed it yet at least as of 4 days ago. Loud exhuast is a fix it ticket with a fine attached. He needs to go to the court date with that note from the dealer that shows its stock and get a note from that testing center that they wont recheck him. It will get dismissed. A dealer isnt just gonna remove "N mode" this story is fishy as hell.
Cop seemed very uneducated imo. I believe he is taking it to court.
@@ENtense The cops here are VERY uneducated. I was pulled over for an exhaust and the cop told me every car in CA is required to have a muffler. I asked what about the cars that were sold without them IN CA? He said there are no such cars. I said sure are, SRT4 did not have them, and a couple trucks currently being sold do not have them. He called me a liar and said I have no idea what I am talking about and handed me my ticket. Which I wasnt even mad about the ticket, my car was LOUD as I was in the process of swapping out different setups to see what I liked most and was planning to change it anyway. I was mad about his blatant ignorance and actively spreading misinformation.
@@michaelbigelow3255 The exhaust is stock DUMMY
@@DarkWolfWRX Fiat 500 abarth has no muffler as welll
@@michaelbigelow3255 Who gives a fuck about the exhaust noise. I bet when you get mad, you scream louder than 95db.