Police LIE to Elantra N Owner, and Hyundai REFUSES to Help!
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How dose this have anything to do with Hyundai ?
this jerk makes $193,510 with benefits a year according to public records. .....
Any update regarding this issue with the authoritarian state of commiefornia?
I'm a cop and I have no idea what the hell this guy's problem is. He's dealing with a really nice timid kid. Thanks for making us all look bad.
ACAB!!1!!!
JK im not a brainless dick
i love you thx for keepin us safe 😘
Respect for not standing up for this dude.
I am not a cop and I know what the cop's problem is; He is a sadist in a rush to get a promotion. In this case he is actively attempting to illicit a negative response in an attempt to turn this into at minimum a resisting w/o violence or at most an aggravated felony stop.
@@TrillShatnerelicit not illicit.
It’s called power trip, typical in California
Honestly, the interaction from the officer might be enough to get the entire stop and citation thrown out the window.
Not in California but if he was an actual dangerous criminal he’d be good to go
He should’ve asked to see his supervisor I’d hope he knows the law better than the other piggy. Might have been able to avoid the whole situation.
Key word is HONESTLY. None with the police.
@@gerrydurand9157 lol. the higher up they are, the less they actually know about the law
nah, the judges always take the cops side cuz if not the cops act like high school kids and refuse to do their job properly
This video left me in awe. I feel so bad for this owner. I got pulled over in my Elantra N in my second week of owning it and the police officer was super relaxed and friendly. I admitted to the officer that I was speeding a little bit but he was mostly intrigued by the exhaust. I am also from California btw (Bay Area). The police officer politely asked me to open the hood so he can inspect the vehicle. I showed him how the car has different modes and he even let me rev it a little. In the end he let me go with no penalty and even complimented the car.
That officer in the video was having a bad night and was drunk off his own badge. I hope the driver can resolve the issue without having to give up such an awesome car.
This is partly why I live in the bay area. Most cops could care less about loud exhaust unless it's earpiercing loud. The problem in the LA area is there's so many moddified cars doing dumb stuff. Yea, we have side shows, but we don't really have a street racing scene, at least nothing like LA.
@@heyaisdabomb Yeah all the sideshows down in socal have the cops on edge there. Glad that scene is way more muted up here in the bay area.
In my experiences cops are typically car guys or at least can appreciate it, this guy was an ass hat from the start. Turn the track mode off and tell him to suck one
3:00 Young & polite. 😂
The cops recorded 98dB. How about kids doesn't use brain while using a car with free feature.
How one person can remove an entire lineup of cars because of one being entitled.
Serious, don't skip the number & data that backup the claim. The cops might have been 200 meters away & recorded this number. The kid just went full rev with the car in multiple instance.
Whoever own that car, shoudn't even bother to defend this kid.
@@heyaisdabomb This wasn't even LA area. This was in Riverside, which usually has more relaxed officers. So, this is pretty appalling behavior from the officer. He was in a power trip and it was caught on camera.
I personally have no faith in Hyundai but the state is the problem in this case. A lawsuit needs to be filed against the police department and state regulated testing facility.
Hyundai would admit fault by doing that and would be bleed dry by the state
@@stewart8127 No it wouldn’t, it would be re-enforcing the legality of the vehicle. And while if The state would get behind such a case maybe, it’s unlikely they would. Those kind of cases that corner in big manufacturers are usually brought at the federal level. And the State would be aware it in the wrong
@@stewart8127 The issue is that according to state law the vehicle noise level is to be tested in the "default" mode which does pass. The default mode is the one that the vehicle defaults to after a restart. The test center in this case requested that the owner place the vehicle in it's loudest setting which is incorrect.
And that officer personally.
@@stewart8127 If you knew anything about Hyundai’s massive legal team you’d probably retract that statement.
Honestly he needs to get a lawyer involved. There is a lot of BS going on here.
That's what I'm thinking
@@vr.67q I'm thinking what you're thinking
Finally nobody could get this resolved, and the vehicle failed subsequent inspections, and after nearly a year of fighting with Hyundai over this, they agreed to do a buyback of the vehicle and the owner got a 1991 Miata instead.
@@FrozenHaxor thanks for the update. Tbh because of this situation I doubt I'd ever buy a Hyundai now.
@@FrozenHaxor are you the owner? If not where did he post the update? Just askin
For this situation, I would sue the Riverside PD, as well as the agency or office that does the inspections, and force the attorney representing the cop to show what statutes, if any, are the backing of the claims made by the cop. Also, force the state agency to show how the testing was done, and then prove it was done wrong. If no statutes are shown, and the documentation is that the car is stock, the judge should award a few things:
1) An order enjoining the Riverside PD from enforcing any statute related to automotive exhaust systems
2) An order requiring state inspectors to actually know what standards to test the exhaust under, and to be required to accept ANY documentation from manufacturers OR dealers that show a car has complied with state law, and is stock
3) Go after Riverside PD for a cool $500,000, for the costs of being inconvenienced, as well as being unable to use property lawfully acquired.
The only way you get public agencies to actually pay attention, is hit them in the pocketbook. And, don't hold back, because cops never do.
Restitution and damages awarded to the public should come from professional insurance for police, like medical malpractice insurance. Cops that do their jobs as aggressively bad as in this case won't just be transferred to another district. It will be so expensive to employ them that they will never work in law enforcement again.
@@misterprimeminister473 : You're not wrong.
Requiring private insurance for cops is something I've mentioned in the past, and is, IMO, not an unreasonable thing to require cops to have, if insurance is required for other jobs, like truck drivers or PIs.
I say sue Riverside PD, Hyundai, the dealership, and the DMV and let them argue it out in front of a jury out about who is liable for selling a vehicle that apparently does not comply with the law and if it actually does comply with the law in the first place and if so who is liable for legal costs. It is absolutely insane that they managed to get stuck in a loop of bureaucracy with no solution but court.
@@isaiahwelch8066 Cops are bonded by the agency they work for.
@@Wowezzersdozzers Sue them for 500k? You'd have to prove losses. He can only sue for what he lost, and that's nowhere near 5k or 500k. The lawyer would cost more than he'd be awarded.
As a car enthusiast, knowing that this happened near me sucks. Smh. Riverside cops are known for abusing their power and hiding behind their badge. This is kind of an important case for all of us car folk because it can set a precedent for future cases with similar circumstances.
Well at least they're not busy with real crimes or just dont care 😅👍
Tin doesn't protect Tyrants from Lead...
If they are known ,make it known and vote for someone else locally.
@@smiddysmidton8313 Riverside county is fairly conservative believe it or not or in the very least 50/50. It's all about the money in CA. These cops understand that their salaries amd fitness reports(reviews for promotion) depend on alot of these frivolous citations. So it gives them incentives to be dickheads.
Riverside CA P.D are truly the worst. I moved away never looked back
I'm a mechanic for this issue there is a simple solution go to the dealership and ask them to update the ECU with the latest firmware. And that is the repair. On the report say "Complate of loud exhaust by unqualified mechanic holding no certifications. "Specifically the cop" inspected the Car and preformed ECU update! Tested car and it preformed as intended in stock form!
Police have have been citing people for this stuff for a while using their Certified Ear Hole as the testing method and winning cases. It's disgusting, but it's the People's Republic of California... So who can be surprised?
They insisted that it be tested in a non daily mode
@@niyablake which is not how Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) standard J1492 ( aka the testing method) is done. default mode, rpm sweeps up and down to see if it exceeds 95db at 50 feet from driving center line.
this is either cop being jerk, or city/state trying to rake in more cash through bs charges.
@@kenabi feels like the latter if not both, is correct, if they had done the test based on the law and rulebook which is by testing the car on default settings, it would've passed, weirdly they asked for the loudest setting to test it. I mean a part of the problem was the naive and too honest driver putting the car on track mode when he could've just said "I don't really know" or something, but well..
can't he take it to another state testing facility after the ECU update? this is just insane. Hundai should have stood behind their product and crushed state nonsense.
They actually tried to pull something similar on a buddy of mine who had a stock Abarth 500. They actually come with no muffler from the factory and he had to get a signed letter from Fiat themselves saying that this vehicle came with no muffler from the factory.
Did the cop just let him go, and not write a ticket?
@@tylerwatt12 no he essentially pulled the same thing. But it was thrown out after he got the letter from Fiat
@@unsightedscarab I think this guy has a good chance of getting it thrown out in court by showing the dealer work order stating the exhaust system is factory
@@tylerwatt12 hopefully. In the meantime the system is broken. How can a car be manufactured and sold in a state where the exhaust "can" be too loud? Either it passes state inspection to be allowed to be sold in California and we are done with this matter, or it isn't allowed to be sold and California fucked up and allowed it to be sold here regardless.
@@zerobomb0 I don't think this car was manufactured in CA, sold, yes, manufactured, no. I had a similar situation here in NY with a fishing lure, bought a fishing lure from a sporting goods store, went and used it, got a ticket for having treble hooks on the lure, even though it came with treble hooks from the store, turns out that you can't use them in certain waterways at certain times of year.
It’s fun knowing that while this guy’s getting hassled about exhaust loudness marginalia there’s that bridge they had to close in LA because gangs of people are parking in the middle doing doughnuts and organized bands of thieves knocking over beauty supply stores. The honest public make for easier prey, of course.
Why harass hardened criminals when you can pick on someone who can afford additional features from the factory
Definetly sounds like LA
Thats the street takeovers/Sideshows clowns. Those people are a cancer
This is happening all over the country and it’s infuriating. Worst part is surprisingly living in a red state with a high crime rate, and rather than solve any of our problems they just point at other states crime rates. Acting like if you’re not the worst, then you’re just fine.
@@Thatone188 Riverside and Inland Empire are more relaxed than LA. Usually anyways. This cop was on a power trip.
I couldn't imagine living in an area where being a law abiding citizen gets you in more trouble than stealing store merchandise
Welcome to Democrat controlled areas.
He probably doesn't. California is a gigantic state.
😂
That only happens in Oakland and San Francisco.
Look at a map lmao.
@@dangerous8333 also in Beverly Hills (Los Angeles) there was a string of people robbing people while they’re having brunch outside.
That Officer absolutely needs to be on a final written warning over this. He is a bully. He clearly gets enjoyment and glee from telling this polite citizen that he’s is going to suspend his reg for too much noise. The psych evaluation that departments do prior to hiring an officer should’ve caught this guy. No one with this demeanor should be employed in a position of authority. This is what a sociopath sounds like. The excitement, the happiness, he is talking so fast he can barely control himself. He LOVED every second of making this kids life very difficult by taking his car away from him over such a small violation. A warning such as “so, for future reference, don’t run track mode on the street because you could get into some trouble. Have a safe night!” would’ve sufficed for most officers. But not canwright. He LIVES for throwing the book at people, it makes him feel important, because his father never supported him. He is clearly a Sociopath. Man this video pisses me off
The cop didn't make the law. He's probably laughing because people keep voting for people who do make these stupid laws. He probably also thinks it's ridiculous.
@@diezelvh4133 he obviously does not think its ridiculous, you can hear in his voice and demeanor how he loves to use this bullshit reason to harrass citizens.
Psych evaluation? They intentionally recruit, and hire sociopaths and psychopaths, so any 'psych evaluations' are not done to weed out these monsters, but to find them.
Welcome to the new world order.
Yeah....sounds like the cop was getting a hard on the more he spoke of the citizen paying $1000's of (his own $$$) to get this rectified.
Langsdon Canright representing California’s finest…
This is also why you should have a dash cam in your car.
That cop switched up so fast over his misunderstanding of the law. I would definitely have everything on paper and explain the situation to my lawyer.
Cops: Why do they hate us?
Also cops: Suspends your car registration for nothing.
-Laughs in blacked out Hellcat-
@@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 you're so cool
These are the cops that love the hate, they are above us.
@@DATSUNC210RB20DET EAD
@@bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 ok roblox kid
Needs to sue the cops and the dealer both
That would cost way more money to sue
I am reconsidering buying the Elantra N due to the lack of support from Hyundai, they can't even send a email letter to help their customers and backing up their products. So messed up!!
No but! What they can send u in some additional features for ur future Elantra if you’d like 💀
It’s not Hyundai’s fault. Track mode is intended for track use, I’m sure it’s in the fine print in the owner manual. The cop was an ass-hat though.
They could support their customer and actually help him.
This is a problem with the state not Hyundai.
@@FUNKOfilms They could support their customer by giving him letter saying that the car is stock at least.
This just shows how much power cops really have, a law that DOESN’T EXIST, and they still can charge you.
It also occurred to me that all the Riverside PD has to do is park right in front of the dealership and just cite all the N cars that leave the lot, or just go on the premises and cite all the unsold ones since they "know" they're equipped with that Track Setting and are therefore, illegal. That will NEVER happen as they know they're in the wrong on this. What they have is an arrangement of sorts with the local AG, the vehicle rep station and probably a congressman or two who love sticking it to what they consider the "other" side.
All vehicles on private property are not subject the C.V.C. its only once they are driven on public roads can the law be enforced. But dealerships have "Dealer plates" since the vehicles are "never registered yet" so they can't do anything to them yet anyways.
I am hopeful that Hyundai has to buy back and crush all these cars because of that one cop and one referee... I think that would be the news worthy event here.
@@fazman6218 Thanks for the clarification. This all sounds way to fishy to me. Hyundai has to own up to it if they know the problem is of their making. You'd think a simple ticket first time around for using "track mode" on the street would be enough.
@@666chew This is a compounding problem that people aren't looking at correctly. Hyundai and the federal gov't probably did things correctly. But this officer in Riverside and his colluding buddy at the state referee have exposed a mafia like shake down of average citizens. In the process they have exposed that in fact when testing is done by our paid law enforcement folks, as "reasonable" people in the community the cop found the vehicle at low speeds to be making "offensive level of sounds" and the person specifically trained to do that one job of testing has proven that in FACT it was illegal. The car owner is not at fault and is the victim here... he should get 100% of his money back because of this discovery. Hyundai (much like VW) should be required to take the punishment of their profiting on illegal acts on purpose. CRUSH ALL the cars that Hyundai tricked people into buying.
This is fraud at large scale by a manufacturer who should know better
@@fazman6218 car needs to be tested in ita default mode when you start it up.. thats why it failed the test and they should be aware of it before testing. These people just cant do they damn job correctly
Doesn't quite work that way, if it did the police could wait outside any dealership and give everyone tickets for speeding since all the cars are capable of speeding or running stop signs or anything else, the issue here is track mode, if the guy hadn't admitted to running in track mode he might have not had this problem, kind of like when the police ask you do you know how fast you were going never tell them you were speeding, either refuse to answer or tell them you were going the speed limit and have them prove you weren't. once you say you were they can use that admission against you.
Riverside man. Full of homeless people and actual criminal activity and they do this. Yet there’s a 392 around every corner blowing the eardrums off everyone and nada.
well they dont get pulled over because they're black.
So if you get pulled over for playing music too loud, do you have to get your entire stereo system removed?
No. Just be considerate
Yes! No more tunes for you.
No, that would simply be a ticket for violating sound ordinance. Hyundai boy got popped for an equipment/emissions violation, completely different.
@@TheNovaks47 with a stock exhaust. So no violation there technically
@@TheNovaks47
It’s hilarious what people in California will put up with.
There's no law saying the car can't be driven in track mode on regular roads.
Cop just jealous of the car and him with his girl
But there's probably a law forbidding the exaust system from backfiring and releasing flames at the back. The officer stated he was stopping the car because the car was backfiring and after asked if the car was in track mode. At least the cop knew about track mode.
@@Kagdar just wow, Hyundai's N line cars do NOT shoot flames. 1. MOST backfires do not produce flames, ive owned a Tuned Lancer Evolution, Subaru STI, Stinger GT, Veloster N, Civic Type R, NONE of them have ever shot flames ALL of them made popping noises, the Veloster N was the only one to do it in stock form, and its not a backfire. A backfire is when you have a rich air fuel mixture and excess fuel is detonated, MOST sports cars that have an exhaust that pops is due to a lack of backpressure when the throttle is closed, hence why it happens when you let off the gas. The car doesnt have a track mode...it has ECO, Normal, Sport and N mode, none of them are designated as track use in the owners manual, all any of them do is stiffen the suspension open a valve in the exhaust to let it make its natural sound and change computer settings for throttle response.
@@Kagdar Elantra N doesn't have Track Mode. He just suggested this probably based on the cars appearance not actual knowledge. There's no way this car is shooting flames out. This is the exhuast stock form. I've heard numerous cars with V8's and up that are way lounder than this from stock. This is a joke. Never has it ever been a LAW for anyone not to drive in a preferred "Driving Mode" that's offered with the car. So then the cops should just sit and wait for every Elantra N and Sonata N sold and write every buyer up for the same violation. They already said it's not modified. Simple. What else is there argue.
@@FdgIV99SpaceGhost Elantra N has active exhaust which changes the exhaust loudness and sound if you're on Normal, Sport, or N Mode.
Probably got pulled over for the crackling and popping that happens in N mode. He had the state inspection done to waive the ticket but it was done in Sport mode which failed the exhaust noise limit test.
In California it is simply illegal to have a loud car. So numerous v8's and basically every other loud car you can think of can be hit with this ticket. And if you have active exhaust, any exhaust mode or operating RPM which produces noise exceeding the noise limit is basically illegal as well. The Harley dopes and fartcan Civics ruined it for enthusiasts by being loud and obnoxious. In the same way those "coal rolling" pickup truckers are going to make it illegal to tune and modify the engine in any way.
We have the officers name and office. No laws against 1000s of people calling their phones every day demanding the removal of this officer...
This cop is just pulling so many blatant lies straight out of his ass lol. Also, there is no “Track” mode on N vehicles
Dang and I’m here in Texas with my V8, no muffler, and what’s left of a catalytic converter and nobody cares😂
He just needs to get lawyer and they would have this ticket thrown out.
Not true. A lawyer would simply take his money and do nothing.
He posted another update that Hyundai gave him a hybrid loaner car and he has a lawyer and a court case for Feb 23rd. He still has to make payments on his N but Hyundai is giving him $500/mo towards it.
Once this goes to court and gets thrown out(because it will)..His lawyer or whoever advises him is going to 100% advocate countersuing. It would be a slam dunk.
They ALREADY LOST in court……The failure at the State Referee inspection was Prima Facie evidence..!!!
This has been UPHELD, numerous times, in Court !!! Try Again !
I had a car accident and had a similar issue with the case managers not wanting to help. I told them if they didn't help I was going to get a lawyer, they didn't believe me, I got a lawyer and suddenly despite being informed to only contact my lawyer they were trying to talk to me and get a slip up. Needless to say I told the lawyer and never had to talk to anyone with that company again. They were in the wrong. The reason they reached out when they did is because they realized the likelyhood of them being represented with it going viral is high, and any arbitration possible would have to happen before legal help is retained otherwise they will be on the bill for anything that goes through the court. With all the right to repair laws and stuff this is another example of a car company refusing to fix cars. Although the repair is fabricated, they could have simply wrote up a paper for a customer that already paid them money to use a car.
California has killed the car scene with all their vehicle laws. Only dealerships that really help in these cases are Dodge, Ford, Chevy, and at times BMW helps out M3 owners for this haha
Law enforcement officers have a deserved bad name.
Why wasn’t his first thought to hire a lawyer? I mean if he really thought he would be charged up to $7k wouldn’t it make sense to have your lawyer deal with it?
This same issue happened to a friend of mine in Rancho Cucamonga back in early 2000’s with his Acura Integra Type R. He was bone stock and it comes with DC exhaust if i am not mistaken. He ended winning the case in court because the Acura book shows it has that specific exhaust stock
Type r comes with nearly silent exhaust. DC would have been aftermarket
@@wantapgt you can verify for yourself. When the 1st year Integra Type R was released in the USA it came with DC exhaust from Honda. Look it up…. Do not just guess.
@@NunYaBeezWax80 not guessing. It came with just a regular Honda part number exhaust that was no louder than an integra LS or GSR. Nearly everyone ditched the stock muffler though because it had no sound
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How come motorcycles can blow my ear drums out passing me. Sometimes they pass so fast it literally makes you jump. Not a good things while driving through traffic! Yet a car that is factory stock barely fails dB in a mode that the car is not in by default. It's a parlor trick at best. Make the exhaust sound sporty!
Look, if this guy is running around and disturbing the peace by driving through neighborhoods and waking everyone up with his exhaust, then give him a ticket and a fine. Same as a radio played too loud. Nobody makes you remove the radio, they just say "keep it down from now on" so honestly I really do not get this.
Again with the motorcycles... either it's an unacceptable sound level or it is not. I don't get why there are double standards like this.
Your radio comparison really is true... It's a selectable mode, it's no different than me cranking the bass knob and rolling through the neighbourhood at full volume with the windows down. They don't tell you to get the radio re-programmed to max out at 1/4 volume, they just tell you to shut up, give you a little nuisance ticket, and hopefully you have learned your lesson.
Yes holy shit those motorcycles will blow your eardrums out driving through stop and go traffic
Motorcycles actually have an even more strict noise regulations than cars do in CA, can't be any louder than 80 decibels.
@@rdizzy1 That's shocking, where I live in Canada, motorcycles actually have a bit higher allowable DB than standard passenger vehicles. Then commercial vehicles are even higher than that. They all still get hassled regularly though, if a cop has decided he wants to give you a ticket, it's too late, no matter the status of your exhaust, stock or modified, or what his DB reader says. IF he even cares to test it... They often shove them right up the tailpipe here, like... at that close even a stock Prius would fail! But they have started more often now to not even test, as having a DB reading just gives you something to argue in court, they tend to prefer the Cops word vs Civilians word cases with no evidence on either side, as the judges always side with the Cops.
@@rdizzy1 you may be correct, but I'm still astonished as these guys all go around with modded exhausts and generally loud AF. Even crotch rockets, not just Harleys are very loud! Nobody is telling them to go get reffed that I am aware of. But something tells me this is a unique situation and not the norm... yet. Not gonna lie I'm a little nervous about keeping mine now. 😬
Thousands of cases were dropped in Riverdale county, 3 were children who were sexually assaulted!!!! This is so sick!!!
The mentality of the officer enjoying costing the kid thousands of dollars is infuriating. Over a little bit of noise!
FTP
If anyone is wondering about the song playing in the background, it’s Nikki by Forever the Sickest Kids
Sounds to me like someone is looking to make some mad money under the table. Otherwise, why all the threats about how much money the "repairs" will cost the owner? $4,000. $7,000. The dollar figures are all over the place. And then there is the business about driving the car in "track mode," and saying that there is a specific law against that. State law, county law, city law? And what this business about "track mode" being some sort of modification? It's all a bunch of horseshit. Sue 'em! Call local TV stations and get an ombudsman on the case.
The fact that the government thinks it can determine what is legal / illegal to drive in the first place is beyond me lol.
We need less government asap.
That officer is going to run into the wrong person and that person is going to burn all of his car and his house. I hope it doesn't happen, but sometimes there are lunatics out there, just like the cop himself 😳
Cop is a bully and bullies eventually get what they deserve.
$7000 is a hard pill to swallow in that area of California. California has expensive traffic tickets that are meant to hurt you. Traffic cops are not your friend when your getting a ticket.
Seems to me if Lamborghini drivers do not go through this ( because they can afford good representation) there obviously isn’t a law against driving in track mode . So therefore if there is no legal means of enforcing this made up law . You should simply be charged with the loud exhaust violation period . I’m sure a good lawyer would shred this bogus ticket in court . Then also demand retraining for the officers on this subject via lawsuit for malicious prosecution.
i want to really know what drag, sport, or manual mode, especially if the vehicle is actually manual lmao, has anything to do with the fact of a muffler or exhaust system being in stock form...cop here has too much time on his hands, and it does not help that he lives in his own world making up his own rules...392, mustang, and bmw owners stay in drag or sport mode, and their v8 and I6 engines are much louder than this...i'd go for a lawsuit aswell with those phony made up citations...
Yeah there’s no limit on using “track mode”
Noise ordinances are not "made up laws".
@@ddrhazy they are "made up" when the vehicle is indeed stock from factory, and the noise itself is blamed on a specific driving "mode' and not an actual aftermarket bolt on parts like the exhaust, headers, intakes, and etc etc etc...for example, fix it tickets are only to be administered to people who have aftermarket, or deleted exhaust systems thus resulting in more "noise" and the Fix it is basically replacing the aftermarket exhaust system with a factory one...in this case here, the exhaust system itself is factory, so there is no "fix It."..even a 3 year old could understand this concept..
@@ddrhazy With out a decibels meter within calibration,All of that is here say and can be thrown out in court.
That cop sucks. I blame the people who doing stupid stuff and revving their excessively loud exhaust everywhere. They ruin it for the rest of us who also enjoy cars but dont wanna disturb their neighbors and other people on the road. People complain and of course the cops have to enforce it now. Its not just a CA thing. Loud exhaust laws are in every state.
I had been considering a Hyundai for my next vehicle, but with the recent events, between Hyundai not doing anything to help with this, refusing to issue a recall for the stolen car issue and instead putting it on the owner to pay to install an immobilizer that should have come with the car, and reports of cars that caught fire just sitting in garages I don't think I can go with a Hyundai sadly. It's a shame, most other automakers are making boring cars now, but if the company is either creating cars with dangerous defects or is not willing to back its customers, then I don't think they are a viable choice sadly.
It’s really sad that Hyundai wasn’t really willing to do anything to help but the real problem is the state of California the officer issuing the ticket, as well as the state referee. Dude flat out lied and said the dealer is gonna have to remove track mode which is absolute BS as well as the prices he pulled out of his rear. And he was absolutely delighted to potentially completely ruin somebody financially. I personally don’t know too many people who can afford to have a $37000+ car they make monthly payments on to just sit around and do nothing. All while he didn’t do anything illegal, and the car is completely stock! You would literally think there was some sort of personal issue between the driver and officer if you didn’t know any better!
actually hyundai actually cares it's just that whomever is running that dealership that is the problem here in Belgium I wouldn't have a problem with that
Bro I had a same encounter with a Range Rover SVR homie pulled me over saying my exhaust is loud and I was like bro it’s stock and was like this is how they make it 😂😂😂
What? The State "experts" couldn't even spell "decibel" correctly on their own certification form!!
😂😂😂
The owner also needs to know to shut up. They are not on your ide. Know your rights and only do what is required. Could've saved him a bit of headaches, and shutting off the car before the officer arrived would've hidden any evidence of Track mode being engaged on the street.
like i said, the guy should go to court and try the cop for perjury
Time to go to court, waste time and money, just to be able to drive your new car in California? All this could have been avoided by not living there
Dude this is a BIG joke it made me so angry, i just dont understand why the story continue THE CAR IS STOCK!!!! What the hell! You don't have a few things better to do than arrest someone who you think is making a little too much noise with his car. Anyway otherwise I ordered my elantra N and I should have it in January or February I just hope never to come across this type of person I am extremely surprised by the calm of the owner of the car I would never have been able to keep my calm as much as him
Hey guys, I'm Motor Officer Canright. Tells you everything you need to know. Motor Cops are traffic officers. Get that quota.
I liked my EN but with all I’ve come to know about Hyundai’s warranty work and communication I traded it for another brand. I don’t need that headache. Also California blows.
Dang dude don't be so proud of your new brand that you didn't mention lol
@@BetydeIsMyHandle Ha, I got myself a Mustang GT. Nothing special, just always wanted one.
@@Megatron_79 Great choice, well done. The 2024 Mustang is gonna be spectacular.
Hyundai has nothing to do with this.
The State used wrong mode for testing, per their regulations.
His issue is with the State, not Hyundai.
How many N cars are registered in CA, that pass inspection.
DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE!
DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE!
DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE!
Don't go to the dealer, go to a small tuner shop. Have them deactivate N mode. Show the 'repair', take the test. Go back to tuner, reactivate N mode.
Next time you get pulled over, keep your mouth shut. The police are not your friends. If they pull you over, it is not to make friends, its to GET YOU.
Funny how he knew the car had track mode on it. I bet this is a go to ticket for them. If it’s illegal to operate it in track mode in California then it should have never been sent to a California dealership. Or a service bulletin should have been done to all registered cars so they could bring them in to disable them (I’m sure some type of software update would take care of that). Kinda like back in the day if you bought a car in California they had to have some type of special emission that was the best in the USA on it to even be sold.
There is no track mode.
@@DontPanicDear
Well going off the video, they both say it is. Why don’t you enlighten us non Hyundai owners what’s the proper term for it or if the police and owner doesn’t know what they are talking about.
@@Stacksmusic
It's called n mode, but it doesn't necessarily mean track mode. At least that's how it is in a veloster n. They have similar modes and customization. Besides, track mode doesn't mean you can only use it on the track. More of a recommendation as the suspension gets stiff and sucks on public roads.
@@Stacksmusic
It’s just a hot hatch that makes a few pops, much like a Focus ST, or a Golf R. My i30n Fastback is tue same thing essentially.
No road cars come with modes illegal to run on roads. Even in California.
Making a load of exhaust pops in a built up area is bound to get tue wrong type of attention though.
Not only is the cop a nasty individual, he clearly knows nothing about cars 🙄
In Europe, we’re not allowed standard exhausts that ‘Pop n crackle’ these days!
I had 2015 3.4 and 2018 2.5T Cayman GTS that made quite a racket!
My 2021 makes no pops at all ☹️
You CAN mod them legally in the UK though 😃
There's no track mode in any of the N cars. You can check the site and it has nothing about it.. now you can say "track ready" like it says on the site. N mode is just another fancy word for Sports+ because all the settings on the car can be changed Normal, Sport, Sport+. The issue is a lot of people are not very knowledgeable and if they hear a loud exhaust or pop/crackle they automatically think its custom. IMO the N cars are mild, I've heard Chargers, Challengers, Mustangs and all that are 5x louder and no one bats an eye. I honestly would not have touched sport mode when he did the inspection or I would've done N custom and put exhaust on Normal. Keep it on normal and let them test it. He might have used the term track mode and the officer immediately thought oh you're not on a track, this is illegal! because there are high performance/super cars that legit have a "track" mode setting.
This officer is DRAGNET certified, as that's what you need as an officer/deputy to send someone to the state ref (they don't give out those stickers on the back of the cite unless they're dragnet certified). It DOES NOT matter if the vehicle is 100% STOCK - if the vehicle has different tunes made for the track, then yes I'm sorry but you can get sent to the ref for using track mode on the street. The only way to fix it is to get your ECM reflashed by the dealer to take away that mode entirely. The demeanor of the officer does not mean anything in traffic court. He had PC to pull them over and issue the citation. Does Cali have some stupid laws, yes, but I'm sorry this guy is not winning this one.
You ARE correct….Haven’t lost one yet..! This Officer has a stronger case than most of mine.. He has NOTHING to worry about.. This is a slam-Dunk conviction !
That officer sounds like he made that entire thing up.
Come to Indiana, we’re happy to hear that wonderful factory exhaust!
He should move out of Commiefornia. That would solve a lot more than his Hyundai problem. I did 23 years ago and have NEVER regretted it.
Basically move out of California and let it rot
What an ass that cop was. “Well it’s $7000 and you can’t drive the car now!”
He was an ass for no reason, the other guy wasn’t even mean or anything!
Thanks for the update and shame on Hyundai for not helping this guy out.
I hate scummy Hyundai dealers and Corp, but this is everything to do with the cop and nothing to do with them. I agree
Imagine saving up to finally buy a new car you've always wanted just to end up with your balls bein' yanked by the government and crushing your dreams.. of legally owning your dream car. This poor guy. :(
Well if you watch a review of the Elantra N. You'll find out to get the "popping noise" the cop pulled him over for. Has to be turned on by the driver in the information center of the car. It does not come on automatically.
TBh, there's nothing Hyundai can do. It's a BS CA law brought on by street takeovers. This exhaust law was only created by the hooligans taking over intersections. This incident could have happen to a BMW M2 Competition owner, a Supra owner, etc. There's absolutely nothing a car manufacturer can do in this situation, since this law was initially created to curb street racing, and street takeovers. This is a prime example of government and State overreach.
Bullshit. The car is legal and that is it. This kid needs to sue the department.
And we use it DAILY !
Honestly the court case is simple and he and actually sue the state ref and the cop for this. His car in track mode is too loud, but not in normal mode. The citation shouldn’t have been so harsh because we’ll all the officer to do is tell him not to put it in track mode since he knew himself it was too loud when in track mode. This should be a simple case of filing a lawsuit and especially for the inconvenience caused for suspending his license
I often keep seeing this type of stuff and it makes me sad but disappointed now I know why my Buddy registered his car in Oregon rather then California,yeah it’s sweet to have Cali plates but the laws in California are so screwed up
Obviously they were doing enforcement for that particular violation on several cars. You can see the other motor Officer has someone else pulled over as well. From this observation, we can assume this is a “problem spot” for cruising. The vehicle in front of the Hyundai owner appears to have modified exhaust as well. Thanks to all the Fast n Furious copycats and the street takeover problems, it is now a misdemeanor to modify your exhaust in the state of California. It used to be a “fix it ticket” but no longer
TRUE !!!
should have never said you were in track mode without that admission all they might have been able to give you is loud exhaust
Exactly, you never admit anything...it will be used against you.
I would sue the police/state ref. At least a complaint to the police department. I’ve had an illegally loud exhaust for weeks and no problems so to see this to a stock car is shocking.
Some people outside of California might want an Elantra N. Sell the car and have it shipped if the owner can't get through the Cali red tape. Hopefully Cali reinstates the registration once they know the car is out of state. Or move to a state that doesn't have ridiculous auto laws. I'm in Florida and might be willing to buy the car myself if the guy is willing to discount it off list price because it is "used" and help with the registration. I would want to talk to an attorney first to see what reinstating the registration involves.
Vulture behavior
@@Jack-ce8we no
Sue the Police Station, State Ref & Hyundai 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Well, the owner lived in California and continues to do so. Not surprised one bit that this happened there.
WOW, hiring a Law enforcement officers who doesn't know what the law BLOWS MY MIND.
this is such a simple case for a lawyer, car is stock 50 state legal end of story. cop is wrong
How does anyone live in California? Absolutely ridiculous
Have a mechanic or the Hyundai dealer unplug or short out the sport mode switch, such that it no longer is selectable. Write the invoice as "delete sport mode." Retest the car. Whole lot of a holes in that state.
just because ignorant asked you to do it? if thats the case, fools will rule
What? Why would I lose features of the car I paid for? That’s like saying. Hey your brights are illegal. Well hey dealer, can you just remove my brights please?
Get outta here. I bet you don’t even have an N car so you really shouldn’t be talking
Why is California on such crazy bullshit with exhaust laws and literally no other state could give a flying fuck? It's so bonkers it drives me crazy
Because, Democrats lol.
California should cecede from the Union
We wish that they would too.
We should boot them out
I think there's a bigger problem here I think California just needs to be completely abolished because this is a daily occurrence in the state
I wonder if they could get the dealership to at least on paper replace the OEM stock muffler with a OEM stock muffler. I know it sounds stupid but if he had a piece of paper that said a "repair" was done he could get it tested again.
It’s possible, but what happens if the test fails again. Does Hyundai have an illegal car being sold? Makes you wonder
@@xxtoptankxx6873 I would make them test it in stock mode, based on the way the law is written. If it fails that then yes Hyundai has an illegal car and in my opinion its Hyundais problem and they need to issue a recall. But long story short move out of california and you wont have this problem.
@@bigdogbigben yeah I get that. It should’ve been tested that way the first time. I think the issue is he can’t get a retest unless he gets documentation saying it was repair. Hyundai won’t repair because it’s stock. So he could either challenge the test in court. Or challenge the ticket in court.
I admit it would’ve been smart for him to not say track mode as it isn’t a track mode. The owner definitely goofed that up, but I believe he was trying to be open and answer to have good faith in the officer not being a huge asshole. Buts that’s hindsight
The car has a certification sticker, affixed under the hood. It will state what emissions rules the vehicle complies with. If it hasn’t been modified, and the dealer certified it, take it to a lawyer and let them sort it out. There are way too many hands in the pie, and making inquiries really isn’t helping. Take it to a lawyer, show that letter y’all got from the dealer, let the lawyer handle it.
If y’all aren’t familiar, I can email a photo of what the certification sticker looks like. In my car’s case, it is affixed to the actual hood, on the passenger side nearest the windshield. Every car sold in the US has such a sticker affixed. Where it is, however, can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Your owner’s manual may have where to look for the sticker. NO vehicle sold becomes illegal due to the presence of a “track mode”. The track mode, is still compliant with those rules listed on the sticker. It is illegal to sell a new car that does not FULLY comply with the listed regs.
Have a look here, as this is the EPA’s guidance where to find the sticker. It is unequivocal proof that your vehicle complies with emissions standards. Coupled with that letter that the dealer found no modifications, the state has NO GROUNDS AT ALL to hold or revoke your registration:
www.epa.gov/importing-vehicles-and-engines/locating-vehicle-emissions-label
ww2.arb.ca.gov/locating-vehicle-test-group-or-engine-family-number
Have someone buy the vehicle, immediately buy it back and register in another state.
The "repair" would be to not use track mode on public roads if it isn't legal to do so in the region he lives in.
The driver needs to lawyer up and file suit against that officer, the department, the state ref, and Hyundai...the problem will be taken care of quickly.
Hey Cali, how's voting Democrat working out for ya? 😂
Hyundai is under no obligation to jump out of their pants to help someone that was wrongly accused of something thats not even their issue , this is a state and police issue . Cali is nuts not Hyundai
It's funny how the police forget that they're supposed to Protect and serve , not harm and bully.
To "Protect and to Serve" is just a motto. I remember there was a contest to come up with a slogan for a local police academy in CA way back in the day. The winning motto was submitted by a police officer, which was "Protect and to Serve." This motto became so popular, that it was adopted by hundreds of police forces around the country.
The primary duties of a police officer is to enforce State, and local laws. With Federal police enforcing Federal laws. They're not there to protect us. We're responsible for protecting ourselves, which is why I'm a staunch supporter of 2A.
@@doubledown8229 Punish and Enslave "Barricade"
I've had an encounter with Officer Canright myself, he rolls around school zones on a moped looking for anyone to go over 25 so he can claim children were present. He is a condescending, disrespectful and honestly terrible "Officer" that will find any excuse to give you a citation. In fact I'm pretty sure I saw him just the other day so I flipped him off, he pointed at me and then made a U-turn to try to get behind me and catch a minor moving violation, to his dismay I was one turn away from home lmao.
This officer is paid $140,000 a year.
this is why you just keep your mouth SHUT. He told the cop what he wanted to hear and then the cop made a tent in his pants and went to town. Is this car in track? I don't answer any questions. Simple. Then he has to guess. Guessing cops are loosing cops.
GET A BLOODY LAWYER AND SUE HYUNDAI!!! AS SOON AS THE LAWYER CALLS HYUNDAI, THERE WILL BE ALL SORTS OF ACTION ON THIS!!!!!!!!!
This isn’t on Hyundai, this is ALL on officer Canright and the state of California.
Hence why I would never live in that God forsaken state. Hyundais lack of give a crap is about lock step with their customer service or lack there of. This person sounds like they are between a rock and a hard place and I feel for him.
My wife and I bought 2 brand new Hyundais for $48,000 Palisade and $38,000 Santa Fe the same day and they would not even add a tow hitch for me. Then on the first oil change for the palisade, the oil change kid messed up the O ring causing 2 quarts of oil to leak out. I was so pissed that I traded my santa fe in for a ford F150.
Pretty sure all cars have to be less than 80 decibels by law and as long as it meets that criteria and there isn't a California law specifically saying that cars cant have track mode then he should be clear. They did the same with a hellcat not too long ago. But he may have to start a lawsuit to get a case started. I guess manufacturers will have to start selling California only models again.
Better yet, they should just stop selling the "nice" spec'ed cars in Cali and it would be an incentive for more people to leave the state 🤷🏽♂️
95 db for all cars less than 6,000 lbs. 80 db is for motorcycles. Basically all these cars with loud exhausts come with these active exhaust settings which make them quiet enough to use until switched off.
And well despite what Faz Man here thinks, these types of noise ordinance laws are picking up steam across the US and Europe. The whole reason active exhaust systems were even created in the first place was to fit noise ordinances which were enacted years ago. Even the Nurburgring Nordschleife has a 95 db limit which has existed for 10+ years now.