Hanging Parries - Understanding HEMA
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2016
- Hosts Sean Franklin and Nicole Smith demonstrate how to perform the hanging parry, and several strategic reasons why you should.
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I can see why having a knowledgeable instructor can be a huge help opposed to learning alone. Even though a lot of these tips and techniques are common sense to being an effective swordsman, most people wouldn't think about them until they've experienced them. I never thought about most of these things. Thanks again.
Having experienced all of these moves, I have to say this video was more valuable, because it helped me to really understand why and all the different permutations. Really cool.
We decided to upload a later episode for our launch to give a better indicator of our final product. We had a myriad of technical issues at the beginning, and we didn't want those issues (some still withstanding, primarily audio) to be indicative of our standard of quality.
We apologize to all of those with OCD for the numbering ;)
+Blood and Iron HEMA hey does hema have any material on spears
+urbanmyths95 yes skallagrim has since vids telling you where to look but Google helps a lot.
+urbanmyths95 also scholagladatoria has some vids.
Tyler Lalonde
well i meant like manuals and stuff because i wannna fight with one
+urbanmyths95 Check out the Wiktenauer.com site.
That's where almost all of the HEMA material is being hosted.Look at the left side of the home page and you'll see a section called 'weapons';.
Go there and look for spear.
Scholagladiatoria is a great channel that can be useful :)
There various sources on that that you can browse.
I also suggest going to'The HEMA Alliance' facebook group and asking for more online sources there :)
I do so love the hanging parry. One thing to keep in mind though, is it doesn't necessarily win the fight, and it doesn't always put you in control. I don't recall which master the play was from, but in one of the Bolognese sources I study with side sword, the attacker (agent) swings at the head without a huge commitment, but still forceful. The patient (defender) performs a hanging parry and follows with an attack to the other side, as the instructor shows in this video. The defender thinks he has out maneuvered his opponent, until his follow up cut is countered with a false edge beat, and then it is the original attacker who delivers the finishing blow.
And still Hollywood claims that authentic sword fighting looks boring...
+MPPRODUCTIONSger authentic sword fighting in most cases would last seconds.
If i had to fight any of these instructors I would be dead within two moves lol
Don't generalize Hollywood as it is just the name of the place where various filmmakers gather to make movies. Anything can happen in movies as they can subvert or avert tropes/clichés. After all, there are no rules in Hollywood that dictate on how to tell a story. There isn't even a boss who oversees and dictates how all movies should be like. It does make more sense to refer to studios, groups, individuals, etc. as they can have a consistent track record.
Pardon me. I am just annoyed when people generalize a place where it is just there for filmmakers to go to in order to express their art or just do their job. It also saddens me that whenever someone mentions the name Hollywood, it is usually in a negative remark, giving the name negative connotations.
Don't generalize Hollywood as it is just the name of the place where various filmmakers gather to make movies. Anything can happen in movies as they can subvert or avert tropes/clichés. After all, there are no rules in Hollywood that dictate on how to tell a story. There isn't even a boss who oversees and dictates how all movies should be like. It does make more sense to refer to studios, groups, individuals, etc. as they can have a consistent track record.
Pardon me. I am just annoyed when people generalize a place where it is just there for filmmakers to go to in order to express their art or just do their job. It also saddens me that whenever someone mentions the name Hollywood, it is usually in a negative remark, giving the name negative connotations.
An actual, authentic, hyper-realistic sword fight, especially against something climactic like a fight between hero and villain, would only last seconds. However, this isn't an excuse to not incorporate HEMA techniques into a fight scene.
The main thing with sword fights is that, when done properly, the have a certain rhythm to them. If you can maintain that rhythm, whilst similarly executing techniques available to you in books, you're going to get the best of both worlds.
@@plasmathunderdx truly authentic swordsmanship doesn't last very long, true. However, you can still make a (slightly less) realistic sword fight with HEMA techniques and still have it last as long as you wish. Look up Adorea Olomouc on RUclips. They utilize HEMA for stage combat. Great stuff.
Nice work you guys. I like how you emphasize that you must master the basics rather then trying to do fancy moves you're not ready for yet.
I am a new student to HEMA. I've been training for 3 months, and I applaud you for this channel and these videos. My instructor will be moving away in 2 months so these videos will be a vital and crucial part to my solo-study curriculum.
Thank you for this.
Much respect,
Eddie
I love how the intro is heavy metal then the actual video is super calm
It's kinda awesome how you guys are able to stop the blade just inches from each others heads haha. Knowing me I'd mistakenly hit someone.
As someone with no HEMA club nearby, I have to say that I'm very grateful for your Videos.
Please continue being awesome and good luck with your channel!
+TheRealBaneheart They do quite clear videos so it really does seem great.
You can ask in the facebook group called 'The HEMA Alliance' for more online sources though :)
I do enjoy your videos.
I find these videos very helpful, thank you. However, 1:48 would be more helpful if the correct form was compared via split screen.
I wish HEMA were more popular around here, seems you're all in Canada or the UK!
+TomatoBreadOrgasm Where are you located?
+TomatoBreadOrgasm Did you try using the hema club finder www.communitywalk.com/user/view/81443
aleksandar ristic A massive thank you to you, sir, there are a few an hour's drive from here.
+TomatoBreadOrgasm Glad to be of help :)
Do note-sometimes the clubs listed there aren't as active as you might think-it's best to see if you can contact them beforehand(especially if you have to drive a few hours to get there). 'The HEMA Alliance' facebook group is usually a good way to check if you can't find them otherwise.
That being said a loooot can be done through solo practice or working with an interested friend but even one class per few weeks or months or going to an event once per year can do a lot for your learning of HEMA :)
Maybe in one video you guys could cover the fundamental moves of sword fighting, some basic variations, and what exactly they are. (Like parries, dodges, thrusts, strike etc.) And maybe show some Hollywood moves that wouldn't work to give a reference point of sorts.
Definitely gonna subscribe.
Love the way you present/describe things : simple, yet you can learn quite a bit :D
right on another great video keep up the good work. I love the quality you are putting into them.
the hanging parry is down a lot of different ways for sure. in fma it's the same but some weird choices pop up like "tactical machete/knife experts" use it as a straight block on a foot or shorter blade.
These are very good references for animating fights
This channel is very interesting, is also a good resource for animators and artists alike! keep it up!
+Renzus Check out the facebook groups 'HEMA open discussion' and 'The HEMA Alliance' for more useful online sources if you're interested in stuff that can be useful for animators or artists.
The Wiktenauer.com site is also a great thing :)
Great Vid, looking forward to more.
This is awesome guys! Could you do something on the german school longsword stances? Especially the transitions between them.
Well, I see a beginning of a great channel here. Subscribed.
love your videos
hanging parries are pretty good with sword with more encompassing hand gaurds
Thanks, You are amazing
these older videos are much more informative than the newer ones.
But but but Flat of my strong! Flat of my strong! (All joking aside I really enjoyed this. Keep up the good work!)
great vídeo
Best when done with basket hilt swords, a la George Silver. Great insight, guys! Keep up the good work.
Guys i'm really looking forward to seeing you post much more videos, you will get good at them as this instructive format is great.
You should check description boxes in videos for fb page, on this one it directs to some random.
+Jerzy Korzuchowski Thanks for the heads up. Fixed!
That's a damn fine channel.
Very nice videos guys. Especially the end, after the credits. :)
I saw you've commented already that you are working to fix audio issues for the future but I just wanted to pitch in that aside from being low volume, for me the main issue was the echo from the room you are in. I understand that that is the logical place to demonstrate things, so if you can't change the location (or have a better directional mic), I think subtitles at the bottom could be a good idea. Anyways, good content so far, keep it up!
+subbss Subtitles are currently being added to our backlog before we start recording with new microphones. We may keep the subtitles for newly recorded ones, but it depends on how much time our video editor has. We'll see!
Thanks mom & dad
Please make some videos on single handed short swords. I am interested in learning about how to block. I see there are some hanging in the background.
When you show improper forms could you show the proper form afterward?
+Wicky Noted. We'll make sure to make proper form clearer.
I love the series so far! Keep it up!
Just subrcibed. Whilst i am more into Asian Martial Art (Weng Chun Kung Fu) i already see alot of parallels in the defense techniques between HEMA and fights without weapons. In Weng Chun your aim is also not to push against an attack, but most times to somehow roll around the opponents hand/arm/leg and also to use the opponents force for your counterattack.
Your Channel is really interesting. Lokking forward for more videos.
-DiscJoker
+DiscJoker Productions Yeah my Wing Chun brother ;)
Kind of Bruce Lee !😁
Great stuff. Would love to see sparring with slow mo, freeze frames, and commentary as well.
Cool vid
Sword Fighting Tights
I was thinking about sports training gear and movie tights (Robin Hood Green) or medieval Italian Striped tights, two color leg tights could be fun.
Good work i love sound of clashing swords :-)
Hi Blood and Iron, I do Viking Re-enactment in Australia and I fight with a shield and sword, I was wondering if you could do a couple of things for me, could you find the time to do a video on shield and sword, or just single sword, and could you point me in a good direction to finding a well balanced single handed sword, the closer to a type X the better. I look forward to watching your videos as i hope they'll help my meager combat skills.
+Dan Pearson You can also try the Dimicator channel for some viking shield stuff(I assume you already know about Roland Warzecha's old video on it)
Nicole is one of the most beautiful women in this planet
hi, I'm a beginner in European sword styles, and am currently starting with a two handed broad sword. could you release a video showing how to use all of the parts of it or simple techniques for it like you did for the long sword? thank you for making these helpful videos ^^
+Dova BOSS They do quite clear videos so it really does seem great,especially for beginners.^^
You can ask in the facebook group called 'The HEMA Alliance' for more online sources though :)
The best way to parry or stop a blow is to meet it before it is in full force.
How could you counter a hanging parry effectively?
I remember hearing from a couple of historical fencing guys that one should always block with the flat of the blade, but in these videos I see you guys blocking with the edge a number of times. So what's the dealio?
+Nipah Auauau
There was a time when many people promoted the myth that you must parry with the flat to avoid damaging the edge of your sword. Most of the HEMA community has moved on to realize that it is a situational choice, based on the facts that:
1) Your life is more important than a chip in your blade, so it is more important to do what is the most effective given the circumstances.
2) It explicitly tells us to meet swords edge on edge in many historical documents.
In the summer our own head instructor, Lee Smith, and the Phoenix Society for Historical Swordsmanship's Richard Marsden did a video for Skallagrim on the subject: ruclips.net/video/W9b8q7-M_dQ/видео.html
Wouldn't it be more efficient to do a deflectionary parry (if that's a word)? Where you parry with the flat at an angle and the momentum of the blade makes it slide off, so a counterattack is easier to pull off?
+Amanda Todd That's kind of what they're doing at 2:12?
+aleksandar ristic yeah. Thanks
so "deflecting" an attack is better than straight up parry it right? at least if you are able to deflect it that is.
Sometimes. It really depends on what you want to do.
do they have a video to deflect an amateur's attack where they swing aimlessly?
Elie Chan attacks like those usually leave big openings. Look for openings to strike and simply back off with some footwork if there aren't any and let them waste time. I they are able to catch up to you beating their blade away can be effective too.
Would the same techniques you teach with the longswords you use work with a hand-and-a-half sword? Aren't they both technically longswords?
+Owlblocks David
Longsword and Hand-and-a-half sword are both pieces of modern terminology. In most historical fencing manuals they simply refer to them as swords. And a massive amount of overlap happens even between using a single handed and a two handed sword.
The reason we kept switching between two handed and single handed swords was to show how this has less to do with the type of sword, and is more about some fundamental principles for all weapons.
+Owlblocks David *You* are the weapon, the sword is just the tool ;)
when you can't hear what they're saying so you turn on captions
but the only available captions are in Spanish so you take the time to write down the caption in Google Translate to understand what was said
*Intelligence 100*
thanks, captioners
I'm here from Dark Souls to see what a real Parry looks like.
Edge to edge?
Since you are talking about a Historical martial art, how about including the source material you are using to base your interpretation on? Otherwise, a nice presentation.
+Britton Cooke Check out Wiktenauer.com
There's lots and lots of manuscripts and their translations there.
Almost all the stuff done in HEMA is done by studying sources listed there. :
You can also ask in the facebook group called 'The HEMA Alliance' for more online sources though :)
I want to be her when i grow up lol
I enjoy learning about these arts, but, your audio is way to low
+Tox West Thanks for the feedback. That's something we've heard a couple times now, so we'll make sure to adjust for future releases.
+Tox West
Yeah, I fully agree with Tox West on this one. Hopefully, it's an easy fix.
+SaltyWaffles It's not too bad. A little work on the editor's end for the rest of the episodes we've filmed, but hopefully we'll be able to get proper mics in as soon as possible.
+Tox West Good thing you can just...you know...turn up the volume...
Skallagrimmers smash that Like button!
Thanks for the videos, but could you use plastic practice swords instead of metal? The clanging sound is quite jarring compared to your quiet voices.
@2:15 No! This doesn't work with a Messer.
+Bastian Koppenhöfer It certainly does! I've done that exact technique in a messer tournament!
Hmm let me differentiate. It doesn't work if you attack from an angle. It may work if you move in line. Which you should not.
Nichole looks like the kind of woman you wouldn't want to cross. If a fella upset her she might have him sliced and diced and vacuum-sealed into very neat packages.
Why are you HEMA guys always trying to create some weird new names? It's but a parry number 6 in modern therminology. Video is cool tho