How to Beat "Tells" in Sword Fighting - Understanding HEMA
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Tells are common among sword fighters, the trick is being able to recognize them. Once you have that, Beating them is much easier.
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Swords used in video:
Longswords - Black Horse Blades Feders
Sabres - SGT Blades "Tyrant" Polish Sabres
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Arcane Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Hey everyone just something to point out.
When demonstrating the whole "pulling your sword back" we usually mean doing this while stepping forward already, or *really* cocking the weapon back. There's nothing wrong with going to a retracted position like wrath or high guard first, then stepping with the strike.
Turns out I do a bad job demonstrating things poorly :P
Julian Schuetze thank you now I have knowledge mwah hah haha
Julian Schuetze Hi.. are you using PVC pipes for cutting drills for training to prevent tells?
I have also noticed that these "tells" can be used to feint, especially if you cannot get rid of your habits. then throw it in occasionally intentionally as feint and you'll confuse your enemy. especially less experiences ones who start their attack at your slightest attempt.
I got the same thought or telegraphing a move that you have no intention to do.
I used to have a lot of slight and big tells. Now I use amplified versions as feints a lot, and not just in feinting but for basically any martial art : )
Still got tells but working on that!
I probably laughed a bit too hard at the "stopping before attack" segment.
Constantly switching between guards looks funny, but then just a simple *bonk* and he's down.
Love how you guys make your content as entertaining and funny as it is informative.
Also 5 points to red, for using Monster Hunter pictures.
Tells or repeated chains of attacks are also a great way to set up faints ^^ From many years of practice in unarmed martial arts, since it's my only kind of fighting experience, if you want to land a more complicated move like a head kick or a back kick, you have to set it up, a great way to do so is to attack repeatedly with low kicks for example, then fake one and spin, or fake one and kick high. :) I'd assume this works for sword fights too, even if they are shorter ^^
I would love more videos like this; Recently, I have been attempting to fight a friend who is much taller and has much more reach, and a video about that would be very useful.
Thanks a lot!
One of the things I love doing in both Kendo and now carried over to HEMA is "fake" tells. Something that looks at first to be a tell but is actually a feint to get my opponent to do stupid things thinking they know what I'm going to do, it doesn't always work and it's kinda a one/two shot per person when it does but it can be very effective. For example, one of the things I used to do was look at my opponents hands and swing a bit out of distance at the hands. This came from a actual tell I used to do but I turned it into an advantage later. If done right, your opponent thinks that "Oh, they're looking down at my hands when they snipe there every time. Now that I know what they're going to do because they're a newbie and so predictable, I''ll just move to guard my hands and do a counter" and thinks you have a tell and when they see you look down, they'll move or do something to set up their move leaving them completely open if they're not skilled enough to realize what you're actually doing. It doesn't work all the time and I don't use it all the time, but it can work when you need it to sometimes.
haha agree. you can get rid of the useless mindless habit, or make it a mindfully useful one 8D
Great stuff, your videos help my training very much. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to produce them.
Good video.
And yes, tells can be on purpose.
I have on many occasions (carefully) done the same attack twice, and then it with great regularity used to sucker in the opponent who expected it a third time only for me to change halfway through and score
Another great video guys! Thank you!
Also, there's a major difference between sparring someone you know, vs fighting a complete stranger. At some point, you get used to their tells, tempo, reactions, and get better at drawing them with feints. A lot of things, like drawing back are neophyte mistakes you learn to eliminate. That one in particular doesn't just telegraph, it also delays your action. Any of these can be used as a Feint.
I really like the "pictures" that you put between your points. They look amazing
Saúl López Haha, the video game monster Hunter depicts some of the most ridiculous, over the top combat which demonstrates every single one of these tells. I thought it would be fun to include it a little bit :)
Julian Schuetze i burst out laughing over each of that thumbnail
Hilariously enough, you can use most of these tips to improve skills in videogames like "For honor" where predictable patterns can get you punished. Just fighting games in general can be a better experience if you listen to some of the things shown here.
Heck yea. lots on lol 8 )
I'm actually here because of that. The training videos ingame are shit, you need to learn to play mind games with the opponent.
The Monster Hunter references are great but also make me really sad because I have to face the reality of how ridiculous it actually is. Way to go to really sticking this one in my head hahaha
Good stuff, any martial arts should teach this.
Super useful, thanks for doing these videos!
Question: in the video you mostly point out counters. But as a person doing some of this stuff, do you know of some exercises to unlearn the bad habits?
1 Know your tells. Ask your partners, watch videos of yourself, ask the mirror.
2 Train in front of a mirror. Try not to do them, you'll get feedback if you do.
3 Tell your partner to tell you if you do them.
4 You can use that movements to pourpousefully mistake oponents. They dont see your tell? Beautiful. They do? K, now bait them with it : )
Blood and Iron is a bad ass name.
1 Where are you from?2 First time I see someone on YT talking about this, glad I came. There are a few of things like this that are actually pretty basic and important but seldom mentioned, dont know why, so its nice to see this kind of video exist : )3 Have you seen softcombat/larp/jugger swords? Pretty cheap, and dont require armor (other than maybe a mask and gloves) to go full speed safely. The main problem is the blade to blade feel for me. Thoughts om them?
Shinwoo K We're from Vancouver, but also have a location in Victoria as well.
Thanks for coming by! Hope you enjoy your stay :)
And we're a hard no on foam weapons. They are completely unrealistic, and do nothing but train bad habits. We're also trying to maintain/create a professional martial art image, and with how often foam is associated with Larp, it makes it hard for people to take it as a serious art.
As my coach said observe the whole picture.
Compound attack wait for the final decision.
While you answered how to beat certain ones, some of these you just pointed out without a counter.
You did do really good on the demonstrations though.
I know this video obviously counts for axe combat aswell, But could you do some axe spesific videos?
I've been part of an Amtgard group for about four years and have spotted pretty much all of the tells you mentioned.
However, one time an advanced fighter visited my group and he had the most curious tell. He would aggressively stomp his foot right before attacking. It actually seemed to be deliberate but he left before I could ask him if he realized he was doing it, and if he did, why he was doing it.
Is there a reason for purposefully having a tell like that?
Hello! I haven't seen that particular person, but i have seen and used that tell a lot. In particular if your oponent is scared of losing, they tend to over react if you make it seem like youre going to enter. The sound makes it more effective. Also, can be used to mess up the timing (stomp-half time-strike). Try it out : )
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Maybe a bit off topic but i always have a gripe with people telling me that the sword should go first completely and after that the legs. Wouldn't something like this result in actually missing the target ?
You will just swing the sword right before the opponent's nose just before getting into the right distance that the full step would allow, shouldn't the sword and the legs go at the same time ?
Plus i think it is more balanced, becouse both motions end at the same time. This way you will get max reach all the while threatening the opponent throughout the motion.
I get that the legs are the slowest to move in a fight, thats why you have to compensate by timing the motions to get the reach in my opinion.
Of course im not speaking here about leading with the sword, as that is a bit different element and concerns only the upper body parts.
What would be your opinions ?
Mozoto That's a good question that could have a video entirely on its own.
To put it short, the way I do it is that I pull with my pinkeys first so the blade gets engaged first, then I engage my hips and body for the cut.
If you start too much of the cut before you move, it means the cut isn't powered by your body at all, and instead just your arms. Less than ideal. (Provided people understand that powering the sword with the body isn't a huge motion at all. Check out our cutting tournament videos)
I think that there's no right answer. you can move body and sword at once for speed, body first fpr power, sword first to counter the counter. All good, if you know the advantages and disadvantages of what youre doing and still decide to train it : )
Now that thing is curved.
What is the maker of the sabres shown in this video?
Swords used are in the description
0:29 Did you notice the fly trying to get your attention? It's coz you looked so good.
I definitely did :P
i laughed pretty hard with every monster hunter pic...
i guess you need ridiculous over the top techniques to fight giant monsters
Seeing a low quality image of the monster hunter greatsword shouldn't have made me laugh
Ten views... no likes... Whats wrong with the viewer base?
Also; First ^_^