Brandon Herrera ATF director! More firearms and second amendment youtubers need to be talking about this. With the right pressure, we can actually make this a reality.
Instead of getting rid of the ATF, the system gives people a type of hero like this guy..to make them think things will change. It wont change, unless people MAKE it change, outside of their system.
I've had self deletion thoughts for 59 years. At 18, I realized they were ONLY thoughts. My biggest concern was the risk of becoming consumed with self-destructive thoughts. My solution was to commit to a specific plan that was so elaborate that the urge would pass before the plan could be executed. For the record, my plans never included pews pews.
For a lot of people with chronic depression, I'd image simply thinking "Well, I should at least clean up my home first so the EMTs don't judge the way I lived" would either result in feeling a lot better or wanting to put it off until later. 😅 I'm glad you haven't made the decision to quit.
@mtnbkr5478 you are correct about having depression and the improvement of mental health by cleaning up. Curiously, gripping my pistol in the holster has a calming effect. Without moving it to another position. This discussion has inspired me to invest in the MantisX dry fire system. I had one years ago that got lost when I moved.
I've had thoughts for years. Having work alongside mental health counselors, one thing they always ask is, "do you have a plan?" Nope, I don't and that's how I know it's just random thoughts. Another though I have is the finality if I do go through with it. Maybe tomorrow is the day my whole life comes together and I'm going to miss that. What else will I miss?? Right now I'm in my early 50s. My dad is still alive and almost 80 and my grandfather was about 85 when he died. I'm going to miss out on at least 30 years if I stop things now. I'm not ready to give up on what those 30+ years might hold just because things are tough right now. Bad thoughts come, but we have to recognize that they are just bad thoughts and we have power over those thoughts, to push them away and not make them a reality.
He raised an excellent point against the red flag laws. How many gun owners seeked help in a roundabout way that wouldn't have the red flag laws used against them just because they needed a little push forward? And how many gun owners didn't do that? How many of them are afraid of going to the therapist, hitting up a hotline or telling a trusted friend or family member what's bothering them under the fear of their guns being taken away? How many people in need didn't ask for help just because they're gun owners? My country has red flag laws (aside from a whole lot of bovine excrement) and if you seek help cops are required to take your guns away. One of the conditions for "owning" a gun is a health checkup, which includes mental health. As soon as any of the necessary conditions for "owning" a gun are broken, including if you seek help with mental health, you are no longer elegible for firearm "ownership" and the cops knock on your door
Yeah. Other than just being generally of awful at their job alone, the health & legal systems are also stazi assets and therefore have to be not-interacted-with at all costs. ( Hey? What happened to HIPPA??? )
Good point of view. We have to do things to find happiness. Read a Book, Listen to Music, Watch a Movie, Take a Walk in the Park, Talk to a Friend or Family member. Say something Positive about Yourself and Smile. Search for Peace endlessly.
Lastly and most importantly, we live in an age where everything is considered offensive and that type of thinking automatically makes weak individuals who when they are easily offended, they turn to aggression and possibly violence.
More people should be like me. I'm not easily offended or easily triggered. LOL I was raised in a strict household, then I served in the Navy for 20 years and as a cook for 9. I've been called every name in the book and heard most every insult, not to mention I've 'survived' the like of Richard Prior, Gene Wilder, George Carlin and Mel Brooks. You literally have to WORK to offend me. 😂😂
@@bradhertzler4451 ROFL, those guys are awesome! Sadly though, we're in the age of "bubble-wrap" generation--everyone thinks they have to be "protected" from thoughts they don't approve of.
The issue is, even our health and mental health "experts" refuse to call real mental illness a problem. They are trying their level best to normalize mental illness.
@@adamcuneo7189on the 4473 form it literally asks you if you have a history of mental illness. Then in another category unironically let's you list your sex/gender as "non-binary". Checking that box should automatically be like checking the "yes I have mental illness" box.
@@col.cottonhill6655 We live in a world where mental illness is normalized, we shouldn't be surprised about there being mass shootings with our society being like that.
I work for a school district and we have trainings about this. They have studies showing that if someone has "self deletion" ideation, asking them very specific questions, using the actual "S" word has no negative affects. Quite the opposite, putting words to the thoughts in such a concrete way can be very helpful. Not only in just "getting it off their chest," but words have power and saying it out loud makes it more real. The fact that the "S" word is censored on this platform makes me think they do not really want things to get better.
@@dasbaumeister6633same as we were taught in the military. We were told to ask directly, not say stuff like “are you thinking of hurting yourself?” Using euphemisms doesn’t get the job done.
This is such a needed conversation. I almost deleted myself; it was only the intervention from a Battle Buddy that kept me from doing it. I have always maintained that the biggest problem with guns, are the users.
Exactly! But it's so much easier to blame the inanimate object instead of the looney monsters & criminals that carry out these acts AND don't follow and LAWS!
The problem is that "health professionals" can make the decision when they have zero knowledge on how a firearm works, the amount of background checks you have to go through (same as police, FBI, and the military). Yet even after passing all these background checks someone with no knowledge of this can red flag you and infringe on your rights. Yet purchasing g 26 firearms including military grade weapons LEGALLY must determine I am responsible and have actual knowledge yet the person with no experience makes that decision LOL. That's like me being an unlicensed doctor writing prescriptions for an actual pharmacist.
5:19 😢 I know of a few Brothers that took themselves from others... No matter how 'Dark' things may seem.... I hope they get some form of help, as I did. Most men have a difficult time admitting weakness, and seeking assistance. Be a good neighbor... Be a good Brother... be ok with bad days, and love the good ones... It isn't easy, but it is possible.
Mental health is a major issue in this country and politicians don't want to touch it with a 50-ft pole because it goes into that gray area of when someone needs their freedom taken from them so that they're not a danger to others
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor and I own guns. I absolutely believe it is tragic that anyone believes, attempts, and or succeeds in self deletion. The factors that contribute to the creation of an associated disorder can be addressed and interventions can be applied to mitigate the symptoms. I believe an issue that it seems hardly anyone wants to address is murder and what contributes to that. Like the beliefs that tell us all that it is ok to take a life. War, revenge, abortion, pulling the plug on a relative with stage 4 cancer. Because murder is ok and reinforced from the top of government down we murder. The conversation needs to focus on creating a climate where all know that human life is more important than my conflicts with other human lives. We all need to learn what LOVE really is and how to truly show the acts that would come from a complete understanding of Agape.
This is cool that there are people willing to build that bridge and help try to treat the mental health issue while still standing firm on 2a rights. We need real solutions, most importantly we need everyone to feel safe about coming forward when they need help or just need someone to talk to because they feel alone or isolated. The gun community is very large and very diverse i've found out the past few years, i thought i wouldnt fit in for the longest time cause im too much of a nerd and a gamer...turns out theres a lot of you that are the same.... XD
Exactly this. I come from a military family, traditionally Navy. Sadly though, I was the first in my family to ever have a divorce, although luckily my Dad and brothers actively participated in my sons' lives. Anyway, the oldest was the "intellectual" one, who was a total nerd with computers and actively a gamer. Both of my sons enlisted in the military as well, so both were proficient with firearms. However, people that game with my oldest are often surprised that he's such a gun geek, LOL. I'm not a "gun nerd" although I do own them, but I find it fascinating when we're all together, listening to the two of them discuss the pros and cons of different firearms. Firearms owners come from every walk of life!
It's ridiculous that in my state if I go to talk to a therapist about mental health as it relates to physical health (coping with disease) I will have all my guns taken and my permits revoked.
We need MORE dangerous people among us. Just ones with a sense of ethics and justice. Places like Seattle are full of not dangerous people, and look what a wonderful place it is. I live in a town with LOTS of veterans and LOTS of people carry. It's a very safe place.
I agree wholeheartedly. This is a very personal subject with me because I am not legally able to purchase a firearm because of so-called "mental health issues" years ago. Yet, even at my worst point in life, I never would have dreamed of hurting anyone; and my dad had 2 rifles in the house when we were growing up; and I knew how to use both. It's pathetic. I've had a driver's license for almost 15 years. You can do so much damage with a vehicle. Yet, I can't legally own a gun? Pffftt! It's so unconstitutional! Sure, I COULD maybe get what's called a "certificate of relief from disabilities" and purchase a gun (not a guarantee, though). But, why is it easier for someone get their license back after a DUI, than it is for me to MAYBE get my gun rights back? Again, it's pathetic! If someone is truly a danger to themselves or others, they should probably have a guardian of some sorts; which would be THEIR responsibility.
@@rex8255responding with appropriate strength to stop evil shouldn't even be considered dangerous. Psychopathy is dangerous; emotional volatility is dangerous.
I see a lot of talk about mental health and yet no mental health professionals, like my wife, on any of these videos. As a pro 2A mental health provider/psychiatrist, she has yet to be taken up on her offer.
I wonder if, because they've maintained that the 2A community is not interested in "having a real conversation", taking your wife up on her offer would be admitting they are wrong. It would be great if Colion brought her on to talk about this--time to dispel this myth that we only care about keeping our guns and won't participate in "finding solutions". Maybe your wife could e-mail Colion or one of the other RUclipsrs about having this talk?
Also, there is no denying the medical field like teaching and policing have gotten kind of infected over the years. The oath of health yet doc keeps prescribing meds. Teachers pass kids that shouldn’t because of the “success rate”. Cops looking for the rush in a boring town so they rip your God given rights. These are issues within multiple fields. Not all. But definitely there.
The media CAN get information correct. Mostly when the news supports their narrative. I remember Walter Concrite just reading the news, no slant, no opinion, and people could decide for themselves how to feel about news stories.
It's for new viewers and for the ones who would take it as trolling. We get you're a die hard Noir fan but take into consideration that you're not the only viewer. This video might pop up on someones Recommended Videos and it's their first time . Sometimes you have to Re. So RUclips can acknowledge him for respecting guidelines.
I'm a 51-50. I can't own guns because of issues I had when I was younger. I'm not allowed to protect my loved ones to the fullest extent due to the bullshit laws in the system without spending thousands on court cases!
Sorry to hear that and what is being done to you is flat out wrong. People change….people grow. You should be punished the rest of your life for a snapshot of a time in your life
I remember having the same experience when i was 12 my buddy pulls out his dads 2 shotguns and he handed one to me and said it was unloaded i distinctly remember thinking i am NOT putting my finger on this trigger until i can see myself the chamber was empty i never even saw a gun in person until then but i have autism and was always mechanicaly fascinated with guns growing up playing fps games so i knew it was dangerous to be playing with them and cus of games i knew what a chamber check was and thats how u tell a gun is empty and if the gun is empty its not dangerous to a ignorant 12 year old 😂
When it comes to mental health, that is a tough one to fix, there are a lack of medical workers in the country, including mental health specialists. All of the psychiatrists for example are retiring and there are no new ones to replace them, plus it's simply from the population growing, which automatically makes there not be enough workers to help all of these people.
My only problem is, half of Americans have bipolar, ADHD, anxiety and many more made up disorders. Would it adventually effect the ADHD guy that just uses it to hunt and has hobbies or the bipolar person that wasn't really bipolar they were just an alcoholic and now sober? they say o well he's bipolar but really was the alcohol 6 years ago. Even with depression from alcohol I'm diagnosed with loads of stuff but it turned out it was because I was an alcoholic. Simply another reason to take rights away. The Democrats will use this to take every toms rights that can. Then make up more disorders to diagnose people get more $ and take more rights away. Felons already lost they're rights to protect they're kids for even something stupid like Trump's felony. It's ridiculous that anyone believes they need the government to take stuff unless they're serious diagnosis.
I don't know where you get this idea that half of Americans have bipolar disorder. That is very simply untrue. Real bipolar disorder is much more rare than that. I work with people with mental health disorders.
@Therealmathilda what I meant was I'm sure everyone has some underlying disorder that's been named something when most really just need to get they're crap together and learn to grow up, deal with life. And if they start taking weapons from everyone that has any little disorder it will be just like felons loosing they're rights. Regular people with a simple OCD even the Dems will be coming after them and everyone will be saying good while rights are being stepped on.
@@Therealmathilda I didn't say bipolar specifically I said a number of diagnosis. Add all like anxiety everyone has something. Your not at all worried that this will cause more Dems and government in the future taking rights from more people like how felons have lost they're rights? It's just another reason to take away rights truly. It shows when one of my factual replies got deleted.
IDK where you get your figures from. What about all the mental conditions people have or might have ? They didn't even know what the hell ADHD, ADD, PTSD etc.... was till around 1980s or 1990s. And most of those people have ADD or ADHD never done no serious criminal acts. Someone told me lots or maybe half the kids in sports has a form of ADD or ADHD. But idk what percentage of that is. I am just guessing its probably 15% or 20%, but idk. Heard or I read it somewhere Tom Brady is even has a form of ADD or ADHD. And many people like military soldiers, Marines, raped women, police officers crime victims etc...has PTSD. And 99% of them are not a life or death threat to innocent a person and people. And they have and own guns. But bipolar and those mental conditions I never did much research on it.
@@airbornesoldieramerica7125 I didn't. Litterily pulled the numbers out of my ❤️. Not sure where your going besides proving my point. Ty? ( I'm saying those people you mentioned will be targeted by Dems or whoever wants to take more rights. )
Not everyone that has a mental illness goes around commiting self deletions or shooting people there are people with mental health issue that are very aware of whats going on and live productive lives owning and being safe around firearms people do what they have been wanting to do long before the firearms came into play in their lives if you was destructive as a kid you will continue during your adulthood
When it comes to guns and mental health you cannot separate them when you consider the fact that many firearm related deaths are linked to suicide/self inflicted harm.
They will do it another way end of story. The will kill other people with cars knives and other ways. Look at what just happened in China some person killed a bunch of people with a car. Now you can not drive. Not going to spout the statistics but there are so many people murdered by drivers because they drive stupid drive too close 😭
Just look at suicide in gun regulated countries they find another way end of story okay you can't drive because dumb butts are driving kill people because they drive reckless or too close in bad weather bad conditions or too close period.So you can't drive at all😮
Mental health is a thing that's constantly changing, one day you'll feel mentally fine and the day after that you probably won't. The idea the anti-gunners propose about "Minority Reporting" and there being a mental health test before you get a gun is silly.
Ok... maybe I'm blowing smoke... But after a motorcycle accident and subsequent 6.5 week coma resulting in total amnesia in a 22 year old punk band vocalist who screams about government corruption in 1984, near death in 1985... I see, very clearly, that mental difficulties are the common thread in the murder environment or attempted assassination.
I'm one of those anomalous cases.. I struggle with thoughts of ending my subscription to existing, but Taking up firearms has become a helpful coping mechanism ever since I learned how my previous leftist anti gun views were just wrong. I've scared every counselor I've spoken with when I mention I have a small gun collection.
Words change meaning over time. Somehow the ardent pacifists in PA accepted the 2nd amendment and so did the communities that required each adult to own arms. They each read the term "the people" and knew it meant themselves, their people. At the time, a people was created by social contract (no formal government required) from persons sharing a jurisdiction. Conflicts between persons is inevitable. We can never find peace between metro areas and rural until the people of each jurisdiction have the right to govern themselves just like the Constitution intended. The rights of the people must not be infringed by the federal government even in the form of the Supreme Court. Scalia was wrong in 2008. As a nation we are doomed until clear thinking conservatives correct his mistake. The right to bear arms belongs to each community not each individual.
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Commend you for having ghe conversation, but i WHOLLY disagree. You could remove every firearm in our country, and the suicide rate wouldnt change measurably. We need to stop conflating. Gun ownership and "self deletion" are not correlated. The rate of successful deletion may change, but this doesnt target the issue. Sorry, your guest is confused.
Actually you aren’t listening. Nobody said what you are implying. Even in states where suicide by firearm goes down….overall suicide is up. This show was about what we do to bring down suicide by firearm….not suicide as a whole.
@michaelsodini9041 I'm doing a poor job articulating what I intend to say. Perhaps I question whether or not the conversation even needs to be had. The only way to bring suicide by firearm down is to have less firearms. That's not an option in a free America. Whether or not someone wishes to end their life is completely independent from the means in which they take their life. I guess it's more of a philosophical conversation to be had. We can have a conversation about mental health and suicide, but firearms are just a means of commiting suicide. The GUN has zero to do with it. I realize I still am not doing a great job articulating the point. I just don't believe including firearms in the conversation is useful in any capacity.
@@dansiegel1874all good. I disagree with you about the only way to have less suicides by firearm is less guns….I think the answer is providing more resources where gun owners can get help without fear of rights restriction.
You guys are correct going after a solution for the 60% because the criminal element can be addressed by stronger consequences for armed crimes (let’s say using a weapon in the commission of a crime can automatically equate to attempted murder and use the maximum sentence….you see where I’m going)
Reports being discarded by the police, or state prosecutors dropping it, or "catch and release" - Getting rid of those issues would drastically reduce criminality more than 'harsher sentencing'. Also a legal precedent like that I don't think can coexist with "self defense" law, you've seen how nonsensical the system already is at prosecuting victims of crime.
What absolute nonsense... ‼️‼️☠️💀☠️ 2 Timothy 3:1-5 ~ "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people"
I don't fully buy that it's a mental health problem. And the reason for that is because America is a brutal country to live in if your life takes a turn for the worse. If you lose your job, get sick etc, you and your family will end up on the streets.. I think in order to fix the "gun" problem you guys need to change your entire system and make sure that people have access to health care, a safety net in case you lose your job and can't pay for bills and food. The mental health problem is just a symptom of your problems as a society, and i believe it will only grow worse and worse.
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It's refreshing to see advocacy that aims to break down stigmas rather than alienate responsible gun owners.
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Brandon Herrera ATF director! More firearms and second amendment youtubers need to be talking about this. With the right pressure, we can actually make this a reality.
Instead of getting rid of the ATF, the system gives people a type of hero like this guy..to make them think things will change. It wont change, unless people MAKE it change, outside of their system.
What the media gets wrong! Everything!
So very true
On purpose.
I've had self deletion thoughts for 59 years.
At 18, I realized they were ONLY thoughts.
My biggest concern was the risk of becoming consumed with self-destructive thoughts.
My solution was to commit to a specific plan that was so elaborate that the urge would pass before the plan could be executed.
For the record, my plans never included pews pews.
For a lot of people with chronic depression, I'd image simply thinking "Well, I should at least clean up my home first so the EMTs don't judge the way I lived" would either result in feeling a lot better or wanting to put it off until later. 😅
I'm glad you haven't made the decision to quit.
@mtnbkr5478 you are correct about having depression and the improvement of mental health by cleaning up.
Curiously, gripping my pistol in the holster has a calming effect. Without moving it to another position.
This discussion has inspired me to invest in the MantisX dry fire system. I had one years ago that got lost when I moved.
I've had thoughts for years. Having work alongside mental health counselors, one thing they always ask is, "do you have a plan?" Nope, I don't and that's how I know it's just random thoughts. Another though I have is the finality if I do go through with it. Maybe tomorrow is the day my whole life comes together and I'm going to miss that. What else will I miss?? Right now I'm in my early 50s. My dad is still alive and almost 80 and my grandfather was about 85 when he died. I'm going to miss out on at least 30 years if I stop things now. I'm not ready to give up on what those 30+ years might hold just because things are tough right now. Bad thoughts come, but we have to recognize that they are just bad thoughts and we have power over those thoughts, to push them away and not make them a reality.
@@bradhertzler4451 thank you for sharing 🙏
He raised an excellent point against the red flag laws. How many gun owners seeked help in a roundabout way that wouldn't have the red flag laws used against them just because they needed a little push forward? And how many gun owners didn't do that? How many of them are afraid of going to the therapist, hitting up a hotline or telling a trusted friend or family member what's bothering them under the fear of their guns being taken away? How many people in need didn't ask for help just because they're gun owners?
My country has red flag laws (aside from a whole lot of bovine excrement) and if you seek help cops are required to take your guns away. One of the conditions for "owning" a gun is a health checkup, which includes mental health. As soon as any of the necessary conditions for "owning" a gun are broken, including if you seek help with mental health, you are no longer elegible for firearm "ownership" and the cops knock on your door
MA just made counselors to be able to red flag you 🤦♂Used to just be immediate family members. Assholes.
Sounds like a lot of bull excrement!!!
@@bradhertzler4451 Don't let red flag laws get pushed through because once they're there they're there for good
Yeah. Other than just being generally of awful at their job alone, the health & legal systems are also stazi assets and therefore have to be not-interacted-with at all costs. ( Hey? What happened to HIPPA??? )
When We Lose Ourselves, It Takes A Lot To Remember Who We Were. Thank U For U Being U Colion.
I think k more about who I might be and not wanting to miss out on that.
Good point of view. We have to do things to find happiness. Read a Book, Listen to Music, Watch a Movie, Take a Walk in the Park, Talk to a Friend or Family member. Say something Positive about Yourself and Smile. Search for Peace endlessly.
Lastly and most importantly, we live in an age where everything is considered offensive and that type of thinking automatically makes weak individuals who when they are easily offended, they turn to aggression and possibly violence.
More people should be like me. I'm not easily offended or easily triggered. LOL
I was raised in a strict household, then I served in the Navy for 20 years and as a cook for 9. I've been called every name in the book and heard most every insult, not to mention I've 'survived' the like of Richard Prior, Gene Wilder, George Carlin and Mel Brooks. You literally have to WORK to offend me. 😂😂
@@bradhertzler4451 ROFL, those guys are awesome! Sadly though, we're in the age of "bubble-wrap" generation--everyone thinks they have to be "protected" from thoughts they don't approve of.
The issue is, even our health and mental health "experts" refuse to call real mental illness a problem. They are trying their level best to normalize mental illness.
Yup, like the whole "trans" thing.
Your mental health is up to you to keep healthy not anyone else
@@adamcuneo7189on the 4473 form it literally asks you if you have a history of mental illness. Then in another category unironically let's you list your sex/gender as "non-binary".
Checking that box should automatically be like checking the "yes I have mental illness" box.
@@col.cottonhill6655 Ikr.
@@col.cottonhill6655 We live in a world where mental illness is normalized, we shouldn't be surprised about there being mass shootings with our society being like that.
Awesome content. Please have Mike on again.
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Seems like part of the problem is the word itself is censored
Just the left doing everything they can to control the narrative to push their agenda. Aka the usual suspects.
I work for a school district and we have trainings about this. They have studies showing that if someone has "self deletion" ideation, asking them very specific questions, using the actual "S" word has no negative affects. Quite the opposite, putting words to the thoughts in such a concrete way can be very helpful. Not only in just "getting it off their chest," but words have power and saying it out loud makes it more real. The fact that the "S" word is censored on this platform makes me think they do not really want things to get better.
Cannot fix what you cannot say.
@@dasbaumeister6633same as we were taught in the military. We were told to ask directly, not say stuff like “are you thinking of hurting yourself?” Using euphemisms doesn’t get the job done.
This is such a needed conversation. I almost deleted myself; it was only the intervention from a Battle Buddy that kept me from doing it.
I have always maintained that the biggest problem with guns, are the users.
This was the best podcast yet, Colion. Thank you
Exactly! But it's so much easier to blame the inanimate object instead of the looney monsters & criminals that carry out these acts AND don't follow and LAWS!
They also want to release those types of people from prison over and over again.
Such a good video. Found myself nodding along to so many parts. Thank you for this.
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Yes, bridge that gap.
The problem is that "health professionals" can make the decision when they have zero knowledge on how a firearm works, the amount of background checks you have to go through (same as police, FBI, and the military). Yet even after passing all these background checks someone with no knowledge of this can red flag you and infringe on your rights. Yet purchasing g 26 firearms including military grade weapons LEGALLY must determine I am responsible and have actual knowledge yet the person with no experience makes that decision LOL. That's like me being an unlicensed doctor writing prescriptions for an actual pharmacist.
Thank you both for this interview!
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5:19 😢
I know of a few Brothers that took themselves from others...
No matter how 'Dark' things may seem.... I hope they get some form of help, as I did.
Most men have a difficult time admitting weakness, and seeking assistance.
Be a good neighbor... Be a good Brother... be ok with bad days, and love the good ones...
It isn't easy, but it is possible.
Mental health is a major issue in this country and politicians don't want to touch it with a 50-ft pole because it goes into that gray area of when someone needs their freedom taken from them so that they're not a danger to others
I’m going to listen to the entire podcast before I share. From the intro alone I was going to share.. this is gonna be good.
So much of the mental health crisis focuses on schizophrenia and bipolar. It seems like depression and then something snaps.
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor and I own guns. I absolutely believe it is tragic that anyone believes, attempts, and or succeeds in self deletion. The factors that contribute to the creation of an associated disorder can be addressed and interventions can be applied to mitigate the symptoms. I believe an issue that it seems hardly anyone wants to address is murder and what contributes to that. Like the beliefs that tell us all that it is ok to take a life. War, revenge, abortion, pulling the plug on a relative with stage 4 cancer. Because murder is ok and reinforced from the top of government down we murder. The conversation needs to focus on creating a climate where all know that human life is more important than my conflicts with other human lives. We all need to learn what LOVE really is and how to truly show the acts that would come from a complete understanding of Agape.
This is cool that there are people willing to build that bridge and help try to treat the mental health issue while still standing firm on 2a rights. We need real solutions, most importantly we need everyone to feel safe about coming forward when they need help or just need someone to talk to because they feel alone or isolated. The gun community is very large and very diverse i've found out the past few years, i thought i wouldnt fit in for the longest time cause im too much of a nerd and a gamer...turns out theres a lot of you that are the same.... XD
Exactly this. I come from a military family, traditionally Navy. Sadly though, I was the first in my family to ever have a divorce, although luckily my Dad and brothers actively participated in my sons' lives. Anyway, the oldest was the "intellectual" one, who was a total nerd with computers and actively a gamer. Both of my sons enlisted in the military as well, so both were proficient with firearms. However, people that game with my oldest are often surprised that he's such a gun geek, LOL. I'm not a "gun nerd" although I do own them, but I find it fascinating when we're all together, listening to the two of them discuss the pros and cons of different firearms. Firearms owners come from every walk of life!
They, whoever “they” are, want these issues to be exclusive, they are not. We can be both. And we should be.
It's ridiculous that in my state if I go to talk to a therapist about mental health as it relates to physical health (coping with disease) I will have all my guns taken and my permits revoked.
Should be zero laws on firearms. Period. If you are dangerous you shouldn't be walking free around with us.
We need MORE dangerous people among us. Just ones with a sense of ethics and justice. Places like Seattle are full of not dangerous people, and look what a wonderful place it is.
I live in a town with LOTS of veterans and LOTS of people carry. It's a very safe place.
@rex8255 yeah there is a good dangerous that wasn't what I was talking about. I agree with you
I agree wholeheartedly. This is a very personal subject with me because I am not legally able to purchase a firearm because of so-called "mental health issues" years ago. Yet, even at my worst point in life, I never would have dreamed of hurting anyone; and my dad had 2 rifles in the house when we were growing up; and I knew how to use both.
It's pathetic. I've had a driver's license for almost 15 years. You can do so much damage with a vehicle. Yet, I can't legally own a gun? Pffftt! It's so unconstitutional! Sure, I COULD maybe get what's called a "certificate of relief from disabilities" and purchase a gun (not a guarantee, though). But, why is it easier for someone get their license back after a DUI, than it is for me to MAYBE get my gun rights back? Again, it's pathetic!
If someone is truly a danger to themselves or others, they should probably have a guardian of some sorts; which would be THEIR responsibility.
@@rex8255responding with appropriate strength to stop evil shouldn't even be considered dangerous. Psychopathy is dangerous; emotional volatility is dangerous.
So retired SEALs can't have guns? Got it. George Washington had PTSD by the way.
-Combat Vet
What is 2A about? Saving lives. So stores, ranges, manufacturers should be on board to this issue too
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I see a lot of talk about mental health and yet no mental health professionals, like my wife, on any of these videos. As a pro 2A mental health provider/psychiatrist, she has yet to be taken up on her offer.
I wonder if, because they've maintained that the 2A community is not interested in "having a real conversation", taking your wife up on her offer would be admitting they are wrong. It would be great if Colion brought her on to talk about this--time to dispel this myth that we only care about keeping our guns and won't participate in "finding solutions". Maybe your wife could e-mail Colion or one of the other RUclipsrs about having this talk?
Also, there is no denying the medical field like teaching and policing have gotten kind of infected over the years.
The oath of health yet doc keeps prescribing meds. Teachers pass kids that shouldn’t because of the “success rate”. Cops looking for the rush in a boring town so they rip your God given rights. These are issues within multiple fields. Not all. But definitely there.
I saw 8 people killed and 17 injured in a stabbing and talk about gun
I don't know of an instance when the media has ever gotten anything right , ever !
Exactly, and it started with "The Guns of Autumn," Dan Rather's 1975 hit piece on hunting in America.
John Stossel gets a lot right.
The media CAN get information correct. Mostly when the news supports their narrative.
I remember Walter Concrite just reading the news, no slant, no opinion, and people could decide for themselves how to feel about news stories.
Re. "Self Deletion"... we get it, Colion. Can't violate the political, errr, community guidelines.
It's for new viewers and for the ones who would take it as trolling. We get you're a die hard Noir fan but take into consideration that you're not the only viewer. This video might pop up on someones Recommended Videos and it's their first time . Sometimes you have to Re. So RUclips can acknowledge him for respecting guidelines.
@@2kdkb Your right. He seemed a bit apologetic, so I was trying to show some support 😁
"Do an impression of future Google employees"
I'm a 51-50. I can't own guns because of issues I had when I was younger. I'm not allowed to protect my loved ones to the fullest extent due to the bullshit laws in the system without spending thousands on court cases!
Sorry to hear that and what is being done to you is flat out wrong. People change….people grow. You should be punished the rest of your life for a snapshot of a time in your life
Thanks Colion
I want mental health professionals to check on their mental health. NOT GUN OWNERS WHO PASSED FBI BACKGROUND CHECKS
"Abstinence only doesn't work" can be said regarding gun safety too.
YES!
Great episode!!!!
Thank you got this conversation.
Great convo!
I remember having the same experience when i was 12 my buddy pulls out his dads 2 shotguns and he handed one to me and said it was unloaded i distinctly remember thinking i am NOT putting my finger on this trigger until i can see myself the chamber was empty i never even saw a gun in person until then but i have autism and was always mechanicaly fascinated with guns growing up playing fps games so i knew it was dangerous to be playing with them and cus of games i knew what a chamber check was and thats how u tell a gun is empty and if the gun is empty its not dangerous to a ignorant 12 year old 😂
When it comes to mental health, that is a tough one to fix, there are a lack of medical workers in the country, including mental health specialists. All of the psychiatrists for example are retiring and there are no new ones to replace them, plus it's simply from the population growing, which automatically makes there not be enough workers to help all of these people.
My only problem is, half of Americans have bipolar, ADHD, anxiety and many more made up disorders. Would it adventually effect the ADHD guy that just uses it to hunt and has hobbies or the bipolar person that wasn't really bipolar they were just an alcoholic and now sober? they say o well he's bipolar but really was the alcohol 6 years ago. Even with depression from alcohol I'm diagnosed with loads of stuff but it turned out it was because I was an alcoholic. Simply another reason to take rights away. The Democrats will use this to take every toms rights that can. Then make up more disorders to diagnose people get more $ and take more rights away. Felons already lost they're rights to protect they're kids for even something stupid like Trump's felony. It's ridiculous that anyone believes they need the government to take stuff unless they're serious diagnosis.
I don't know where you get this idea that half of Americans have bipolar disorder. That is very simply untrue. Real bipolar disorder is much more rare than that. I work with people with mental health disorders.
@Therealmathilda what I meant was I'm sure everyone has some underlying disorder that's been named something when most really just need to get they're crap together and learn to grow up, deal with life. And if they start taking weapons from everyone that has any little disorder it will be just like felons loosing they're rights. Regular people with a simple OCD even the Dems will be coming after them and everyone will be saying good while rights are being stepped on.
@@Therealmathilda I didn't say bipolar specifically I said a number of diagnosis. Add all like anxiety everyone has something. Your not at all worried that this will cause more Dems and government in the future taking rights from more people like how felons have lost they're rights? It's just another reason to take away rights truly. It shows when one of my factual replies got deleted.
IDK where you get your figures from. What about all the mental conditions people have or might have ? They didn't even know what the hell ADHD, ADD, PTSD etc.... was till around 1980s or 1990s. And most of those people have ADD or ADHD never done no serious criminal acts. Someone told me lots or maybe half the kids in sports has a form of ADD or ADHD. But idk what percentage of that is. I am just guessing its probably 15% or 20%, but idk. Heard or I read it somewhere Tom Brady is even has a form of ADD or ADHD. And many people like military soldiers, Marines, raped women, police officers crime victims etc...has PTSD. And 99% of them are not a life or death threat to innocent a person and people. And they have and own guns. But bipolar and those mental conditions I never did much research on it.
@@airbornesoldieramerica7125 I didn't. Litterily pulled the numbers out of my ❤️. Not sure where your going besides proving my point. Ty? ( I'm saying those people you mentioned will be targeted by Dems or whoever wants to take more rights. )
Not everyone that has a mental illness goes around commiting self deletions or shooting people there are people with mental health issue that are very aware of whats going on and live productive lives owning and being safe around firearms people do what they have been wanting to do long before the firearms came into play in their lives if you was destructive as a kid you will continue during your adulthood
All the more reason for medical background checks to stop mentally ill people getting guns
It's common sense not rocket science
'Stop making basic observations of logic and causality,
clearly it's the evil gun affecting people's thoughts.'
4min 30sec in I had to rewind the video. Thought that was my phone. Silence ya phone, Colion! 😂
When it comes to guns and mental health you cannot separate them when you consider the fact that many firearm related deaths are linked to suicide/self inflicted harm.
They will do it another way end of story.
The will kill other people with cars knives and other ways. Look at what just happened in China some person killed a bunch of people with a car.
Now you can not drive. Not going to spout the statistics but there are so many people murdered by drivers because they drive stupid drive too close 😭
@@RedROCK-v2eexactly
Just look at suicide in gun regulated countries they find another way end of story okay you can't drive because dumb butts are driving kill people because they drive reckless or too close in bad weather bad conditions or too close period.So you can't drive at all😮
Mental health is a thing that's constantly changing, one day you'll feel mentally fine and the day after that you probably won't. The idea the anti-gunners propose about "Minority Reporting" and there being a mental health test before you get a gun is silly.
Majority, usually 55-60%
31:35 Same people that called us Baby killers are the same people that believe in abortion. I find that funny.
Ironic.
Ok... maybe I'm blowing smoke...
But after a motorcycle accident and subsequent 6.5 week coma resulting in total amnesia in a 22 year old punk band vocalist who screams about government corruption in 1984, near death in 1985...
I see, very clearly, that mental difficulties are the common thread in the murder environment or attempted assassination.
Private ownership of firearms, like limited government, is a necessity, not an option.
My favorite euphemism for it is sewer slide.
I'm one of those anomalous cases.. I struggle with thoughts of ending my subscription to existing, but Taking up firearms has become a helpful coping mechanism ever since I learned how my previous leftist anti gun views were just wrong. I've scared every counselor I've spoken with when I mention I have a small gun collection.
There is an article
Psychopathy tied to unlawful firearm use but not legal gun ownership, study finds
"Mental health and guns"
Translation: 'Mental health.'
The weed will continue to grow back unless you get the root.
Words change meaning over time. Somehow the ardent pacifists in PA accepted the 2nd amendment and so did the communities that required each adult to own arms. They each read the term "the people" and knew it meant themselves, their people. At the time, a people was created by social contract (no formal government required) from persons sharing a jurisdiction.
Conflicts between persons is inevitable. We can never find peace between metro areas and rural until the people of each jurisdiction have the right to govern themselves just like the Constitution intended.
The rights of the people must not be infringed by the federal government even in the form of the Supreme Court.
Scalia was wrong in 2008. As a nation we are doomed until clear thinking conservatives correct his mistake. The right to bear arms belongs to each community not each individual.
I was in HigH SCHOOL WHEN THE PERSON SHOOT REAGAN WHY ARE WE TO BLAM FOR WHAT HAPPENED
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I didn't see 8 mile. Can someone explain the reference? (I was actually driving on 8 mile while listening, oddly enough.)
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I am not crazy my mother had me tested
lmao the 7:25 mark
Commend you for having ghe conversation, but i WHOLLY disagree.
You could remove every firearm in our country, and the suicide rate wouldnt change measurably.
We need to stop conflating. Gun ownership and "self deletion" are not correlated. The rate of successful deletion may change, but this doesnt target the issue.
Sorry, your guest is confused.
Actually you aren’t listening. Nobody said what you are implying. Even in states where suicide by firearm goes down….overall suicide is up. This show was about what we do to bring down suicide by firearm….not suicide as a whole.
@michaelsodini9041 I'm doing a poor job articulating what I intend to say.
Perhaps I question whether or not the conversation even needs to be had. The only way to bring suicide by firearm down is to have less firearms. That's not an option in a free America. Whether or not someone wishes to end their life is completely independent from the means in which they take their life.
I guess it's more of a philosophical conversation to be had. We can have a conversation about mental health and suicide, but firearms are just a means of commiting suicide. The GUN has zero to do with it.
I realize I still am not doing a great job articulating the point. I just don't believe including firearms in the conversation is useful in any capacity.
@@dansiegel1874all good. I disagree with you about the only way to have less suicides by firearm is less guns….I think the answer is providing more resources where gun owners can get help without fear of rights restriction.
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We can now say that Donald Trump's government should be the only one who owns guns
You guys are correct going after a solution for the 60% because the criminal element can be addressed by stronger consequences for armed crimes (let’s say using a weapon in the commission of a crime can automatically equate to attempted murder and use the maximum sentence….you see where I’m going)
Reports being discarded by the police, or state prosecutors dropping it, or "catch and release" - Getting rid of those issues would drastically reduce criminality more than 'harsher sentencing'.
Also a legal precedent like that I don't think can coexist with "self defense" law, you've seen how nonsensical the system already is at prosecuting victims of crime.
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Dang what happened to the gun reviews? lol
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I don't want to hear the term self deletion anymore so I'm unsubscribing.
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Mental health shound be related to buying firearms so eveyone is safe yes you or very right
What absolute nonsense... ‼️‼️☠️💀☠️
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Dude looks like Harvey Weinstein
😂😂😂 you are reaching my guy. Nice try though
Actually I think they do it on purpose.
Is this guy drunk?
😂😂😂 It’s just how I talk sir!
Should we fix 12:13 for u tube policy?
I don't fully buy that it's a mental health problem. And the reason for that is because America is a brutal country to live in if your life takes a turn for the worse. If you lose your job, get sick etc, you and your family will end up on the streets.. I think in order to fix the "gun" problem you guys need to change your entire system and make sure that people have access to health care, a safety net in case you lose your job and can't pay for bills and food.
The mental health problem is just a symptom of your problems as a society, and i believe it will only grow worse and worse.
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