Budget is a set amount of money you put aside for what you are buying. Someone can have a budget of 800 for a pc while someone else might have a budget of 2000 for their pc. Budget does not and never has meant “cheap”
They separate the releases because Amd marketing department will never miss the opportunity to fail, if they released all together it would be 1 fail however separating like this they can get 2 fails within two months.
@@GearSeekers Sure, but with the elimination of the 5Gb port I don't see a lane issue here. The MSi carbon is chock full of USB 10Gb USB ports, two 40 Gb ports, a 2.5Gb Ethernet as well as a 5Gb Ethernet. It just don't see this being a lane issue. As for heat, no reason they couldn't engineer the VRM heatsink to deal with it. The Asus ProArt X870E has 10Gb Ethernet and a ton of connectivity still and no special additional cooling. Nah... this is all about them spending too much on power delivery for a CPU that can't really utilize in. These boards could run Threadripper... it's absurd.
This was the board I was wanting to hear about the most. Was planning on doing a full system build whenever the new X3D arrived, but originally that was supposed to be January, but it might be the end of next month now. Performance wise, the Lite doesn't perform any less than the higher end Taichi, it just has less "bling". edit: Sucks that it doesn't have the quick release for the GPU, and with how tight everything is surrounding the PCI-e GPU slot, it will be even more of a nightmare to remove a large GPU than it is on older boards that are not so crammed. Not really worth the additional $250 or whatever the normal Taichi will be though just for that.
Awesome! I'm glad you can avoid buying the RGB and keep the cost down (somewhat... OK very slightly I bet...) I've always liked Asrock for motherboards, I've usually ended up getting them because they're cheaper and work just as well as the competitors.
I really appreciate the inclusion of those temperature sensor headers (especially because there are 3 of them). Until now, the only boards that I could find that came with them were Gigabyte and Asus, so it will be nice to have another option. I know you can get the Aquacomputer quadro or octo for temperature sensor headers for watercooling, but I've never been a huge fan of extra software and prefer to run my fan/pump profiles from the bios.
@@philrdaly But with OCTO you can also configure and then forget about the software, even if you format the computer the information remains inside it.
@Cairam0101 Yea, I know that, and it's nice to have that as a backup option in case the motherboard I want doesn't come with temp sensor headers. I just like seeing it included so I don't incur the extra cost of acquiring a quadro/Octo. The only two things I don't like about bios level fan/pump control are having to go to the bios to change the profile (which I rarely ever do) and if I update the bios, I'll have to input the profiles again. In that regard, the quadro/Octo definitely have that beat for sure. I know the aquasuite software is far more comprehensive, I just don't need the features
Not feature set & I'm happy to see Azrock moved the post code & power/reset buttons to the top left corner, sad to see the cool metal gears disappear from the design & just be turned into a surface paint. I have the X670E, I just hope Azrock isn't over charging for the new cycle, mobos should be $300 tops, it seems like every manufacturer charges an arm & leg when a .79 cent post code reader is implemented.
Can you please share the dimensions of this board? I'm interested in finding out if I can fit it in the NZXT Flow 5. ATX is fully supported by this case, but EATX is only up to certain board dimensions. Thanks for a great review! Edit: I have found my answer, as ASRock has released their board details. This can fit in the new NZXT Flow 5 (2024), since it's 26.7mm in length. (Case supports up to 27.7mm EATX boards). I am not sure whether it can fit in Flow 5 released in 2022 and 2023. I'll do some measuring before I place my order when the boards are released.
This board looks dope. Would love it to be $250 USD off the rip instead of them discounting it there in 6 months aha. The front m.2 slot is actually amazing. It runs so much colder because it gets the first hit from your case fans. Just wonder if you can somehow turn off the debug lights somehow in the bios.
That’s the difference between their x670e and the x870e. The x670e has those on the bottom of the board not visible if you have a vertically mounted gpu.
I think Asrock nailed it. Probaby I will go with the Nova, but I really like that unlike other manufacturers, they didn't share any GPU lanes with extra PCIE 5.0 Nvmes.
I'm liking it. Well, everything but the price. Never got into the whole RGB thing but I do appreciate things like the "extra" temp sensors and LED POST code display. I'm still on AM4 but looking to upgrade, though atm I'm waiting for the 9k CPUs. Maybe I'll get a bit of price break by the time I get around to pulling out my wallet.
I love the look, but I just wish they would make these red mosfet caps straight. I bought 3 Asrock X670E Taichi boards and 1 of them had those red mosfet caps so crooked, it was painfully hilarious
the USB4 takes Gen5x4 slot from the CPU directly but controlled with asmedia 4242 this is the difference between x670e - x870e x670e with 16+8 gen5 to the motherboard x870e 16+8 gen5 and x4 of them are reserved for USB4 so technically it is 16+4 gen5 lanes for the rest of the motherboard i hope you can clear that up because gen5 lanes are kind of messed up on this x870e platform which i consider a downgrade TBH
Its a ya and nah for me, i was going to build a unique gaming rig but i think i might stick with the 670e boards i just can not see how this is going to make any gaming worth it when majority of games still work only on 6 to 8 cores. They did the same selling tactic with pcie 4 gen, its like throw out a shiny lure and see the fish flock to it (consumers). Unless the 9000 series has a 80% faster rate than sure its worth it.
Some onevat amazon dropped the ball and accidentally listed the asrock lineup of X870 boards and I was going to pull the trigger on the Taichi wen it was delisted along with all the others steel legend all of em
I want her.... she would go great in my Antec Performance P1 that is just sitting in the box. I've decided I'll keep it for my move from AM4 into AM5. I pray God blesses me with the money for it lol. Looks beautiful. Great video as always.
Im in the same boat fam. Although I'm planning on getting the Be Quiet! Lightbase 600 now instead of the Antec Performance P1. My advice is do what I am currently doing, which is buy the parts individually over time whenever you can afford it(unless you can save a significant amount buying a bundle deal). Its less burdening on your financial situation and you can buy parts whenever they're on sale. Possibly save money that way in the long run. Currently i cant decide between staying on AM4 and upgrading my 5700x to a 5700x3d/5800x3d, moving up to AM5.. OR moving back to Intel and getting a 12700k/13600k (mainly because they are easier and more fun to overclock than AMD cpu's) 🤷
@@deadchannelfrom2018 I didn't actually.. E boards are enthusiast top of the line boards and are NOT meant to be cheap in any aspects. Cheap is 650 boards. Are there budget minded people who want E boards, yes but like I said if you want cheap then pick a different hobby. I'm an adult who can afford multiple godlike boards if I felt like it because I saved my money when I was younger.
@@phillysupra andddddd, that was his point lmao. He was saying that the "x" series ISN'T supposed to be cheap. You're trying to clown him when he was agreeing with you lmao.
@@deadchannelfrom2018 I'm not tryna clown anyone I stated a life fact ... Almost every single comment about 'pc parts' on just about every single pc video is someone complaining about pricing and stuff being expensive. That's also a fact
X870E Nova WiFi is better is minimal PCiE lane sharing and it’s cheaper at $330 on Newegg. I wouldn’t get the Thachi unless they fix the PCIE lane sharing issue.
Is it possible to use both pcie slots in dual x8? If yes, this board will be the one to beat. The B650E Taichi Lite is just the best in class in price to features, this will probably be as well.
If an Aussie channel like Gear Seekers has this motherboard then that means retailers like PC Case Gear and Scorptec have the X870 motherboards ready for release on the 30th?
Great board, the best so far. I don't like you have to use screws to remove the nmve ssd heatsinks... like it is 2017. I wish more case companies make bigger cases to accommodate extended ATX MoBos
@@Thunderhawk51 Just personal taste. For pcie layout, like asus x670e hero/extreme the most. If the 1st slot is too low, there will be no room for the 2nd pcie slot.
I can appreciate that this board doesn't look like it belongs to a 15 year old. Looks like an adult would own it. Too many boards have stupid graphics on them. I'm too old for that stuff.
It's almost like ATX sells better in the premium segment, and it makes a better choice for the launch of a new chipset. SFFers just have to wait for a while, or maybe until B850.
When $400 USD became budget?!?!?
I was like oh cool "budget" - £388 IMSORRYWAT
Modest budget desktops are AM4. Also look at some of the mini desktops with APUs.
Wow, $400 USD? I guess I must be dirt poor by budget standards nowadays.
Budget is a set amount of money you put aside for what you are buying. Someone can have a budget of 800 for a pc while someone else might have a budget of 2000 for their pc. Budget does not and never has meant “cheap”
@@PhotoJohn80 wth are you talking about ?!? Budget friendly ringing any bells ?
They separate the releases because Amd marketing department will never miss the opportunity to fail, if they released all together it would be 1 fail however separating like this they can get 2 fails within two months.
Yup, every marketing team within AMD wants their own failure.
It's almost like they compete for how much they can cost the company.
While it's nice to see 5Gb Ethernet, I feel like some of these boards are going to cost enough that they should be coming with 10Gb.
While I agree 5gb is a good middle ground.
It's about PCIe lanes and thermal management more than anything. 10GbE controllers get HOT!
@@GearSeekers Sure, but with the elimination of the 5Gb port I don't see a lane issue here. The MSi carbon is chock full of USB 10Gb USB ports, two 40 Gb ports, a 2.5Gb Ethernet as well as a 5Gb Ethernet. It just don't see this being a lane issue. As for heat, no reason they couldn't engineer the VRM heatsink to deal with it. The Asus ProArt X870E has 10Gb Ethernet and a ton of connectivity still and no special additional cooling.
Nah... this is all about them spending too much on power delivery for a CPU that can't really utilize in. These boards could run Threadripper... it's absurd.
This was the board I was wanting to hear about the most. Was planning on doing a full system build whenever the new X3D arrived, but originally that was supposed to be January, but it might be the end of next month now. Performance wise, the Lite doesn't perform any less than the higher end Taichi, it just has less "bling".
edit: Sucks that it doesn't have the quick release for the GPU, and with how tight everything is surrounding the PCI-e GPU slot, it will be even more of a nightmare to remove a large GPU than it is on older boards that are not so crammed. Not really worth the additional $250 or whatever the normal Taichi will be though just for that.
Great shots, this looks a winner. Now just a bit longer for the X3D.
Waiting for both zen5 and the motherboard prices to come down before upgrading.
Won’t happen until they announce am6
Awesome! I'm glad you can avoid buying the RGB and keep the cost down (somewhat... OK very slightly I bet...)
I've always liked Asrock for motherboards, I've usually ended up getting them because they're cheaper and work just as well as the competitors.
The RGB one cost $600 USD the lit version $424 USD lol
I really appreciate the inclusion of those temperature sensor headers (especially because there are 3 of them). Until now, the only boards that I could find that came with them were Gigabyte and Asus, so it will be nice to have another option. I know you can get the Aquacomputer quadro or octo for temperature sensor headers for watercooling, but I've never been a huge fan of extra software and prefer to run my fan/pump profiles from the bios.
@@philrdaly But with OCTO you can also configure and then forget about the software, even if you format the computer the information remains inside it.
@Cairam0101 Yea, I know that, and it's nice to have that as a backup option in case the motherboard I want doesn't come with temp sensor headers. I just like seeing it included so I don't incur the extra cost of acquiring a quadro/Octo. The only two things I don't like about bios level fan/pump control are having to go to the bios to change the profile (which I rarely ever do) and if I update the bios, I'll have to input the profiles again. In that regard, the quadro/Octo definitely have that beat for sure. I know the aquasuite software is far more comprehensive, I just don't need the features
Please do Nova next!
They're deemed to be one of the "best" budget high end boards for gen 13 & 14.
I hope their AM5 counterpart follows this trend.
Not feature set & I'm happy to see Azrock moved the post code & power/reset buttons to the top left corner, sad to see the cool metal gears disappear from the design & just be turned into a surface paint. I have the X670E, I just hope Azrock isn't over charging for the new cycle, mobos should be $300 tops, it seems like every manufacturer charges an arm & leg when a .79 cent post code reader is implemented.
Nice feature set, typo sorry!
Looks and sounds really good! Hopefully it doesn't cost too much! 😁
Can you please share the dimensions of this board? I'm interested in finding out if I can fit it in the NZXT Flow 5. ATX is fully supported by this case, but EATX is only up to certain board dimensions. Thanks for a great review!
Edit: I have found my answer, as ASRock has released their board details. This can fit in the new NZXT Flow 5 (2024), since it's 26.7mm in length. (Case supports up to 27.7mm EATX boards). I am not sure whether it can fit in Flow 5 released in 2022 and 2023. I'll do some measuring before I place my order when the boards are released.
This board looks dope. Would love it to be $250 USD off the rip instead of them discounting it there in 6 months aha.
The front m.2 slot is actually amazing. It runs so much colder because it gets the first hit from your case fans.
Just wonder if you can somehow turn off the debug lights somehow in the bios.
That’s the difference between their x670e and the x870e. The x670e has those on the bottom of the board not visible if you have a vertically mounted gpu.
I think Asrock nailed it. Probaby I will go with the Nova, but I really like that unlike other manufacturers, they didn't share any GPU lanes with extra PCIE 5.0 Nvmes.
lack of 2 pcie 5x4 nvme, lack of white, $400, hard pass - aorus pro ice is the one
WTF is affordable for 450 euros mb??
It will go great on my budget 3000 pc
Banger of a video fams. Honestly I cant wait to be able to eventually upgrade to AM5
Asrock seems to be killing it with their AM5 boards. This one looks like a winner.
It's about time 5G internet since I have a 3GB internet
I'm liking it. Well, everything but the price. Never got into the whole RGB thing but I do appreciate things like the "extra" temp sensors and LED POST code display. I'm still on AM4 but looking to upgrade, though atm I'm waiting for the 9k CPUs. Maybe I'll get a bit of price break by the time I get around to pulling out my wallet.
I love the look, but I just wish they would make these red mosfet caps straight. I bought 3 Asrock X670E Taichi boards and 1 of them had those red mosfet caps so crooked, it was painfully hilarious
Once your GPU is in you will never see them again.
the USB4 takes Gen5x4 slot from the CPU directly but controlled with asmedia 4242
this is the difference between x670e - x870e
x670e with 16+8 gen5 to the motherboard
x870e 16+8 gen5 and x4 of them are reserved for USB4 so technically it is 16+4 gen5 lanes for the rest of the motherboard
i hope you can clear that up because gen5 lanes are kind of messed up on this x870e platform which i consider a downgrade TBH
I recently bought the Taichi Lite B650e board about 2-3 weeks ago, wonder what this 870 will cost?
Its a ya and nah for me, i was going to build a unique gaming rig but i think i might stick with the 670e boards i just can not see how this is going to make any gaming worth it when majority of games still work only on 6 to 8 cores. They did the same selling tactic with pcie 4 gen, its like throw out a shiny lure and see the fish flock to it (consumers). Unless the 9000 series has a 80% faster rate than sure its worth it.
Some onevat amazon dropped the ball and accidentally listed the asrock lineup of X870 boards and I was going to pull the trigger on the Taichi wen it was delisted along with all the others steel legend all of em
I would like to know the Realtek sound chip model and it looks like it comes with that "red" WIMA? Audio caps?
I want her.... she would go great in my Antec Performance P1 that is just sitting in the box. I've decided I'll keep it for my move from AM4 into AM5. I pray God blesses me with the money for it lol. Looks beautiful. Great video as always.
Im in the same boat fam. Although I'm planning on getting the Be Quiet! Lightbase 600 now instead of the Antec Performance P1.
My advice is do what I am currently doing, which is buy the parts individually over time whenever you can afford it(unless you can save a significant amount buying a bundle deal).
Its less burdening on your financial situation and you can buy parts whenever they're on sale. Possibly save money that way in the long run.
Currently i cant decide between staying on AM4 and upgrading my 5700x to a 5700x3d/5800x3d, moving up to AM5.. OR moving back to Intel and getting a 12700k/13600k (mainly because they are easier and more fun to overclock than AMD cpu's) 🤷
This is only $50 less than the non-lite on NewEgg and I can't for the life of me tell the difference between them.
What about audio codec?
@@janispavlovskis9159 Realtek ALC4082 and a ESS SABRE9219 DAC for Rear Panel Audio (130dB SNR)
Still waiting on a x16 x4 x4 board in AM5. Haven't seen one yet.
Has everything that I would need unless I went to threadripper.
Disappointing that the taichi lite doesn't have the pcie quick release given what its pricing will likely be.
So 4080 super is a low tier gpu too nowadays ?!?
Cmon Nick - X670E and X870E and the word budget don't go hand in hand.
save your money like an adult should or maybe pick a different hobby
@@phillysupraBrainrot comment. You missed his point.
@@deadchannelfrom2018 I didn't actually.. E boards are enthusiast top of the line boards and are NOT meant to be cheap in any aspects. Cheap is 650 boards.
Are there budget minded people who want E boards, yes but like I said if you want cheap then pick a different hobby.
I'm an adult who can afford multiple godlike boards if I felt like it because I saved my money when I was younger.
@@phillysupra andddddd, that was his point lmao. He was saying that the "x" series ISN'T supposed to be cheap. You're trying to clown him when he was agreeing with you lmao.
@@deadchannelfrom2018 I'm not tryna clown anyone I stated a life fact ... Almost every single comment about 'pc parts' on just about every single pc video is someone complaining about pricing and stuff being expensive. That's also a fact
X870E Nova WiFi is better is minimal PCiE lane sharing and it’s cheaper at $330 on Newegg. I wouldn’t get the Thachi unless they fix the PCIE lane sharing issue.
It looks just like the ASUS boards are they made by the same supplier?
Thank you for the video, first one I've seen with this mobo.
First
Asrock? More like ShitRock
still no love for MATX @Asrock
Is it possible to use both pcie slots in dual x8? If yes, this board will be the one to beat. The B650E Taichi Lite is just the best in class in price to features, this will probably be as well.
Be good to see manual diagram of chipset to ensure o swithing compromises
I just purchased Asrock X870 Pro for $199. Very nice board.
I love it 👍
If an Aussie channel like Gear Seekers has this motherboard then that means retailers like PC Case Gear and Scorptec have the X870 motherboards ready for release on the 30th?
No. We don't get motherboards from local stock. They come directly from the manufacturer
@@GearSeekers Ah I see so there is are chance Australia might not get the motherboards on the 30th
im confused whats is the size of this motherboard, its does look like matx but atx at the same way
As mentioned in the video it's EATX
mATX options?
give me a white asrock X870E motherboard i'm looking for a good white motherboard
Great board, the best so far. I don't like you have to use screws to remove the nmve ssd heatsinks... like it is 2017. I wish more case companies make bigger cases to accommodate extended ATX MoBos
Sure doesn't look like a 'budget'
You have to be on an administrator account before you can review these new boards 😂😂😂
The position of the first pcie slot is too low. I don’t like it.
Why is that a problem? Just curious.
@@Thunderhawk51 Just personal taste. For pcie layout, like asus x670e hero/extreme the most. If the 1st slot is too low, there will be no room for the 2nd pcie slot.
x870e taichi 얼마인데?
I can appreciate that this board doesn't look like it belongs to a 15 year old. Looks like an adult would own it. Too many boards have stupid graphics on them. I'm too old for that stuff.
Nobody but ASHIT is revealing an mATX / iTX sized board. Wtf???
It's almost like ATX sells better in the premium segment, and it makes a better choice for the launch of a new chipset. SFFers just have to wait for a while, or maybe until B850.
fps difference vs x670e is ?
Zero