B650e-i has been heavily discounted in Denmark since summer litterly 40% if the price of a x870-i only real difference being usb4 and wifi 7 holy shit asus
While its always possible for them to stuff it up, that external audio interface should provide way cleaner audio than anything on board. There is even less room with ITX to even try to isolate analog components.
Having just finished a SFF build with a ROG Strix B650E-I, they seem to be leaning into creating a “premium” level of components with - as you point out - an unnecessary set of features at an absurd price point. PC building has mainly been an enthusiast’s hobby, where spending most of our build $$$ is usually on CPUs & GPUs; I guess ASUS now wants to drag motherboards into the same type of pricing tier (and other manufacturers may follow suit).
I think I read that the "Hive" has audio components, rather than on the motherboard. Its about space saving, same for the daughterboard, its a way of packing more onto a small motherboard, by using the vertical dimension.
Wow what an amazing overview of this motherboard! Great job and I love the details you covered. I think it was mainly due to these details that I may have to change my mind about this board. The main issue is the height of the M.2 heatsink as you said - it looks like it could be a clearance issue for me and my case.
$900AUD?!?!? Bloody hell, that is truly insane. I completely agree with you Nick, that pricing is absurd. Keep up the good work guys! P.S. Klaire, get our boy under control! Haha
I have a micro-ATX case, and since there are no x870 boards in that size, I'm thinking of popping this in, then using an oculink adapter to convert the top m.2 slot to a pcie x4 slot for my 10gbit network card. Been waiting patiently to get off AM4. Still trying to be patient for the benchmarks to come out (where are they? x870 has been out for like 4 days now).
For a few years now ITX variants of Asus' ROG Strix series have had some truly ridiculous pricing. I've had to rely largely on Asrock and Gigabyte to provide saner alternatives. COME ON Asus...you'd sell a shit-ton of these if the price was right.
@@arthur_pdTrue. But I paid less than half for my X570-I mobo. Post pandemic prices are out of hand, and the companies wonder why their sales are slow.
I think that is half the problem, Asus have no competition in X870 ITX at the moment so they can charge what they like. Once Giga/MSI/ASRock start to release stuff I expect prices to come down a bit.
It’s just the previous X670E-I, updated to Wifi 7 and a change from USB A to USB C to connect to the Hive. The cost here in the USA for the X670E-I is $425. The X870-I is $450. USB 4 isn’t even special as the X670E-I already had USB 4.
So basically it's X670e-i minus one chipset. Mediatek WiFi 7 card and not even a 5Gbit NIC. Everything else is the same except the much bigger L shaped backplate which is there to cover the bad factory solder job.
Two ARGB headers and 3 fan headers on the board itself but they put the power/reset pins on a proprietary riser card....ASUS definitely has their priorities right!
Apparently there is something wrong with them as well. I bought it at $750 from a different Aussie Retailer and they informed me that Asus is recalling them for some unspecified reason.
does the artic cooler pump fit on this board? I have the X570-i version and I had to trim the m.2 heatsink about 3mm to clear the pump. Just curious, thanks
Bios Reset button, Bios flashback button, highly updated mosfets. Seems like the best RAM OC Board for AMD 9000 right now. Unofficial Gene successor. By official Specs it reaches DDR5-8600 on Ryzen 8000 and DDR5-8400 on Ryzen 9000. No other board right now has DDR5-8400 listed for Ryzen 9000 right now. Not even the Hero which has only DDR5-8200. For people who just want a decent ITX Board that's to expensive. But from what I see that wasn't what it was meant to be.
Question: What is max no. displays (4K @ 60Hz) which can be connected to this board, to be driven from iGPU using 9900X CPU? I understand this board has 1x HDMI and 2x USB 4 (supporting DP over USB). In principle, each USB 4 port could output to two 4K displays @ 60Hz (using an MST USB-C to dual DP adaptor). So I wonder whether it might be possible to drive FOUR, or even FIVE 4K @ 60Hz displays from the iGPU? (of course, another limitation is max no 4K @ 60Hz displays supported by 9900X iGPU itself, I heard this might be a max of FOUR, but unconfirmed?) I am planning new build using Ryzen 9900X and X870/X870E Mobo. Will not be used for gaming, for productivity only. I won’t install a discrete graphics card, will rely only on integrated graphics.
Bought the x67e-i before and for it's price, i thought it was too expensive but turns out it was worth it, atleast for me. it wasn't the same price as this, it was almost close lol
Personally, I’m more bothered by the lack of 10G Ethernet than some of the concerns raised here. At least ASUS gives us USB4, which can be used for a 10G thunderbolt adapter, but that’s another $200! Isn’t the header card a similar height to RAM? Removing the audio ports on the rear I/O also gives more cooling through the back, and be honest, how often are you using the rear audio on a motherboard these days? Can’t you remove the secondary / top layer M.2 mount cover and use an SSD with an integrated heatsink if you have clearance issues with those few mm height? Do we want to return to the era of rear M.2s? Why not give us both and maybe toggle which is turned on in the BIOS?
The front panel board is curious, in particular the tandem USB-C connection. I can't think of a good reason to go that direction instead of an edge connector. Any ideas?
Using the daughterboard (fps card) and a noctua D15 g2, (which noctua says online is compatible with this motherboard) it seems like it would be really hard to fit your front io cables into it and below the fan on the D15... also why in the world is the gen5 ssd mount on the bottom with only 1 thermal pad above it... most gen 5 ssds are dual sided and hot, and this brand new motherboard has the bottom side of the ssd not making contact with a thermal pad and just floating above a hot chipset heatsink. I really worry about gen5 ssd temps with this set up...
that price is crazy man. and only two sata ports sucks. wish they would stop throwing 19983919 usb headers on boards and taking up space for the useful stuff, lol. guess this will be the first ever time i don't buy an asus board 💔
Are you going to make a build with this? I am considering exactly this model - as the only one Mini-ITX board on the most recent AMD chipset. There is a problem with this board, though. The oversized M.2 heatsink seems to be conflicting with some AIOs, like Arctic Liquid Freezer III. You just cannot put the CPU block unless you remove the M.2 heatsink... ... at least, according to some reports on the internet. If you are going to make some build with this, can you check/investigate whether that is really the case? And whether there is no really a way to put LFIII there with that huge heatsink...
Way overpriced for a average motherboard...seriously, only 10 phases, c'mon asus it should be 12+2+1 motherboard and blow me for the amount of cash I'd have to blow on this mobo..
Thanks Nick. I think ASUS just went too far this time, like Gigabyte did with their AMD 600-series ITX. I object to being forced to use external devices for a SFF system (the whole idea is for it to be small, not small with a jumble of junk around it). The M.2 heatsink is too high, and large GPU backplates might have fitment challenges, not to mention CPU coolers. Riser boards are a recipe for disaster. Also, at these ridiculous prices... I might as well just buy a gaming laptop and give up on SFF, sadly.
Wait it’s expensive and they couldn’t even be bothered to put their fancy new ram slot? The one with metal that’s suppose to improve signal integrity. Shame on you Asus
$600+ and it doesnt even have LED trouble codes?? hahahahahahahahaha, also whats the point of 870E on a ITX board? Wtf are you gonig to do with the extra PCI-E lanes? Plug stuff into the expansion slo....oh wait.
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For the price, it should clean my kitchen sink too.
And the dunny
NINE HUNDRED DOLLARIDOOS? I'm gonna report this to me member of parliament! That's a bloody outrage it is!
You should take this all the way to the Prime Minister!
@@jordanfairweather6677 HEY! Miistah Proime MinisTAH!!!!!.......... Andy!!!!
@@jordanfairweather6677 ANDY!!!!! HEY ANDY!!!!!!
@@MarcoGPUtuber and no 10gb ethernet
I’m gonna take this to the Prime Minister to
B650e-i has been heavily discounted in Denmark since summer litterly 40% if the price of a x870-i only real difference being usb4 and wifi 7 holy shit asus
@@Mikkel94 Exactly. Over 4K herhjemme 🤣
While its always possible for them to stuff it up, that external audio interface should provide way cleaner audio than anything on board. There is even less room with ITX to even try to isolate analog components.
900 AUD is absolutely insane... hate to think how much the z890 version of this will be next month
Having just finished a SFF build with a ROG Strix B650E-I, they seem to be leaning into creating a “premium” level of components with - as you point out - an unnecessary set of features at an absurd price point. PC building has mainly been an enthusiast’s hobby, where spending most of our build $$$ is usually on CPUs & GPUs; I guess ASUS now wants to drag motherboards into the same type of pricing tier (and other manufacturers may follow suit).
I think I read that the "Hive" has audio components, rather than on the motherboard. Its about space saving, same for the daughterboard, its a way of packing more onto a small motherboard, by using the vertical dimension.
Not interested. For that price it needs 10 Gb ethernet and it would still be too expensive by several hundred dollars.
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Dongle me Asus! Nothing says Asus more than paying over $450 for the same features as a $250 board.
I felt stupid paying 250 dollars for the very first 370 itx since it was the only option, this is just grotesque
I just spent $300 for the B650E-I. now Im wondering if it was a good buy lol
Two active cooling fans…for anyone who wants more noise
They are PWM, and are quiet, so I understand.
MSI needs to do an X870i Unify. Just copy and paste the Z690i but with WiFi 7 and Gen5 M.2 and x16.
Wow what an amazing overview of this motherboard! Great job and I love the details you covered. I think it was mainly due to these details that I may have to change my mind about this board. The main issue is the height of the M.2 heatsink as you said - it looks like it could be a clearance issue for me and my case.
Nice vid and I'm definitely getting this for my next ITX build which is now! Unless you have something else for me coming that I don't know about...
So they moved all the critical connectors off to a mandatory daughter board, but made sure you still have two RGB headers on the mainboard itself...?
Shows where their priorities are.
$900AUD?!?!? Bloody hell, that is truly insane. I completely agree with you Nick, that pricing is absurd.
Keep up the good work guys!
P.S. Klaire, get our boy under control! Haha
how many layers, what memory speed does one might get when ocing the ram? is the bios finicky and easy to navigate, is there any bugs?
Expected those prices, so I got a discounted Strix 670E two weeks ago. Great ITX-Board!
I have a micro-ATX case, and since there are no x870 boards in that size, I'm thinking of popping this in, then using an oculink adapter to convert the top m.2 slot to a pcie x4 slot for my 10gbit network card. Been waiting patiently to get off AM4. Still trying to be patient for the benchmarks to come out (where are they? x870 has been out for like 4 days now).
For a few years now ITX variants of Asus' ROG Strix series have had some truly ridiculous pricing.
I've had to rely largely on Asrock and Gigabyte to provide saner alternatives.
COME ON Asus...you'd sell a shit-ton of these if the price was right.
u forgot, u need to pay these "ROG taxes" for thir stuffs
@@arthur_pdTrue. But I paid less than half for my X570-I mobo. Post pandemic prices are out of hand, and the companies wonder why their sales are slow.
I think that is half the problem, Asus have no competition in X870 ITX at the moment so they can charge what they like. Once Giga/MSI/ASRock start to release stuff I expect prices to come down a bit.
It’s just the previous X670E-I, updated to Wifi 7 and a change from USB A to USB C to connect to the Hive. The cost here in the USA for the X670E-I is $425. The X870-I is $450. USB 4 isn’t even special as the X670E-I already had USB 4.
So basically it's X670e-i minus one chipset. Mediatek WiFi 7 card and not even a 5Gbit NIC. Everything else is the same except the much bigger L shaped backplate which is there to cover the bad factory solder job.
5g is nonexistent...its more than the x670e. If you actually watch a technical breakdown you would know that.
Two ARGB headers and 3 fan headers on the board itself but they put the power/reset pins on a proprietary riser card....ASUS definitely has their priorities right!
Thanks for making a video about this board, sadly there arent many of it.
I have this on pre-order from scan look forward to receiving it.
What case do you think you want to build with the X870i?
Great lookin motherbord 🎉
Getting this with the next Ryzen 7 X3D and a Fractal Era 2 case. Will be great.
Apparently there is something wrong with them as well. I bought it at $750 from a different Aussie Retailer and they informed me that Asus is recalling them for some unspecified reason.
And it still doesn’t have an external clock generator for BCLK overclocking like all the other boards
does the artic cooler pump fit on this board? I have the X570-i version and I had to trim the m.2 heatsink about 3mm to clear the pump. Just curious, thanks
I normally dont go AMD, but that title MADE me watch the vid
Bios Reset button, Bios flashback button, highly updated mosfets. Seems like the best RAM OC Board for AMD 9000 right now. Unofficial Gene successor.
By official Specs it reaches DDR5-8600 on Ryzen 8000 and DDR5-8400 on Ryzen 9000.
No other board right now has DDR5-8400 listed for Ryzen 9000 right now. Not even the Hero which has only DDR5-8200.
For people who just want a decent ITX Board that's to expensive. But from what I see that wasn't what it was meant to be.
Overpriced but for now the only X870 ITX board available as the X67E E-I was the only X670 ITX board. It's rare and beautiful so expensive ...
Question: What is max no. displays (4K @ 60Hz) which can be connected to this board, to be driven from iGPU using 9900X CPU?
I understand this board has 1x HDMI and 2x USB 4 (supporting DP over USB). In principle, each USB 4 port could output to two 4K displays @ 60Hz (using an MST USB-C to dual DP adaptor). So I wonder whether it might be possible to drive FOUR, or even FIVE 4K @ 60Hz displays from the iGPU?
(of course, another limitation is max no 4K @ 60Hz displays supported by 9900X iGPU itself, I heard this might be a max of FOUR, but unconfirmed?)
I am planning new build using Ryzen 9900X and X870/X870E Mobo. Will not be used for gaming, for productivity only. I won’t install a discrete graphics card, will rely only on integrated graphics.
well that's the one i'll have to get the moment the 9950x3d is out, as my xtia case won't take anything bigger :)
Hi Gear Seekers , Is there any X870 I , ItX boards that have Three M.2 Slots ??? i currently have Gigabyte B650i which has Three M.2 Slots thanks 👍
does it come with customer service?
Wann kommt die Rezension? ... Danke vorab
the 690 i boards sells $170 and has the same setup but the audio.... so you are right it cost too much
I'm conflicted by the price but the other things are a non issue for me. I have a 9000D case and I need an itx board for my 2nd mobo.
I miss the DTX format from the ROG Crosshair VIII Impact…
For the price this better build my computer itself
Mine arrives tomorrow, it was either this or previous gen X670E and there was only £8 difference. Far too pricey but there wasnt any other option
Can you not grab a b650 itx?
There is a Chinese x870? itx motherboard for 100 ,tech yes city review it and was amazing . For 100 u can't beat the price.
@@sentryion3106 No, I wanted the USB4, I did consider the Asus X670E mini ITX, but there was only £8 difference so I went X870
I have mine in hand and loving it...just need my 9800x3d now.
Bought the x67e-i before and for it's price, i thought it was too expensive but turns out it was worth it, atleast for me. it wasn't the same price as this, it was almost close lol
Personally, I’m more bothered by the lack of 10G Ethernet than some of the concerns raised here. At least ASUS gives us USB4, which can be used for a 10G thunderbolt adapter, but that’s another $200!
Isn’t the header card a similar height to RAM?
Removing the audio ports on the rear I/O also gives more cooling through the back, and be honest, how often are you using the rear audio on a motherboard these days?
Can’t you remove the secondary / top layer M.2 mount cover and use an SSD with an integrated heatsink if you have clearance issues with those few mm height? Do we want to return to the era of rear M.2s? Why not give us both and maybe toggle which is turned on in the BIOS?
The front panel board is curious, in particular the tandem USB-C connection. I can't think of a good reason to go that direction instead of an edge connector. Any ideas?
Im so confused. In my country its stupid cheap for some reason but everyone else says its expensive af
No AUX port??
What remix is that at 7:45?
@@HausDev As
Breakfast by Leonardo Pancaldi
@@lavestehaves Thanks! The track in this video seems to be some sort of remix though.
Im sitting here looking at my 2018 vintage 10980 on an x299 motherboard, in a nice jonsbo case, waiting forlornly for the Dune case i ordered.
but no drgb connector?
I love that he likes it, but the teleprompter script has him saying otherwise.
I don't use a teleprompter
Ridiculously high price tag and yet rather than giving solid copper heat sinks for the price, you get 2 fans bahaha.
The little fan in the back is to noise 🤬. Return it today
Will this board fit into a Cooler Master NCORE 100 MAX Bronze Ed Mini ITX Case? with a ASUS Dual Radeon RX 7800 XT OC Edition?
Wut? Why wouldnt it fit.
Where is spdif?
Rtx 4070 it super or that motherboard
compare it to the 670 and the 650 itx boards for me please. Is it even an update from the 670e-i?
Using the daughterboard (fps card) and a noctua D15 g2, (which noctua says online is compatible with this motherboard) it seems like it would be really hard to fit your front io cables into it and below the fan on the D15... also why in the world is the gen5 ssd mount on the bottom with only 1 thermal pad above it... most gen 5 ssds are dual sided and hot, and this brand new motherboard has the bottom side of the ssd not making contact with a thermal pad and just floating above a hot chipset heatsink. I really worry about gen5 ssd temps with this set up...
for ITX i'd stay with Intel platform because thunderbolt
Maybe Z890, the last Z790 from from asus also good
That is too much price for a motherboard!
i dont understamd why it is note a x870 E mainbaord?
I just got the X670e-i gaming wifi and the only difference is the wifi 7 and usb4...the price is ridiculous
Imagine spending that amount of money only to have 3 USB 2.0 ports and 2.5Gbe on the back. Hey Asus, where is 10Gbe?
that price is crazy man. and only two sata ports sucks. wish they would stop throwing 19983919 usb headers on boards and taking up space for the useful stuff, lol. guess this will be the first ever time i don't buy an asus board 💔
Are you going to make a build with this? I am considering exactly this model - as the only one Mini-ITX board on the most recent AMD chipset.
There is a problem with this board, though. The oversized M.2 heatsink seems to be conflicting with some AIOs, like Arctic Liquid Freezer III. You just cannot put the CPU block unless you remove the M.2 heatsink...
... at least, according to some reports on the internet. If you are going to make some build with this, can you check/investigate whether that is really the case? And whether there is no really a way to put LFIII there with that huge heatsink...
Way overpriced for a average motherboard...seriously, only 10 phases, c'mon asus it should be 12+2+1 motherboard and blow me for the amount of cash I'd have to blow on this mobo..
I'm still waiting on ASUS to release a CREATORS ITX motherboard.
are there any lineups for itx mobo beside this in x870 lineups?
Worst part is the stupid separate audio box. Same issue on the x670e-i
Thanks Nick. I think ASUS just went too far this time, like Gigabyte did with their AMD 600-series ITX. I object to being forced to use external devices for a SFF system (the whole idea is for it to be small, not small with a jumble of junk around it). The M.2 heatsink is too high, and large GPU backplates might have fitment challenges, not to mention CPU coolers. Riser boards are a recipe for disaster. Also, at these ridiculous prices... I might as well just buy a gaming laptop and give up on SFF, sadly.
No one really wanted the high end version of the previous motherboard
where is the extra ddr slot for m2 ?
I’m getting it
Ahhh yes they add an external button for motherboards, that are bought for simplicity and keeping the footprint small.😂😂😂
£600 and no audio connections at all, except a janky mic/headphone connector on an accessory? sure...
Tiny fan for motherboard chipset? Like the x570? That was infamous for whiny noise on top of being inefficient? Elegant solution, really?
What song is that?
What's wrong with the Australian dollar that it's double vs. US dollar in price? I think you guys are being price gouged.
Wait it’s expensive and they couldn’t even be bothered to put their fancy new ram slot? The one with metal that’s suppose to improve signal integrity. Shame on you Asus
So Asus just broke another new record ?
The price is comical
The Asus X670e-i has the same stupid features and is still $425 US so it's not like this is something new for Asus.
That price OUCH! ;(
Love the title of this video! Asus is setting making the wrong kind of history.
i do not understand why to build small form factor when u get lowered performance vs atx....
Should have 4 x memory slots.
itx has always been expensive Nick. My ASrock itx B659E was $. Sad but true.
I'm well aware of how expensive ITX is and has been. This is ludicrous.
We meet again Mr sata or sata
😂 Well, it looks sick. That is right 😅 So it is for Maxi SFF builds to show off and not for my beloved Dan Case A4 SFX 🤷🏼
Too expensive for none e version board.
Holy Freaking Dollar!!
Board layout alone is a huge pass , daughter board and hive unit lmao.
Oh how I truly hate ITX with a passion.
$600+ and it doesnt even have LED trouble codes?? hahahahahahahahaha, also whats the point of 870E on a ITX board? Wtf are you gonig to do with the extra PCI-E lanes? Plug stuff into the expansion slo....oh wait.
ROMED4ID-2T is more expensive
Looking forward to what the B series boards will offer.
In India its 650usd 😂
Yikes, x2 tiny fans.