This is what a $1000 Motherboard looks like...
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2022
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let's hope they didn't put any capacitors the wrong way this time
LMAO damn........when I saw the thumbnail, before I even scrolled to the comments, I was going to write exactly that - "Let's hope for $1k we get capacitors soldered the correct way!" But you beat me to it 😂😂😂
@@User-JT89WA1 magic smoke
@@User-JT89WA1 it burned down the mosfet on a previous Asus board.
@@User-JT89WA1 Bad things... the board can literally kill itself after a certain amount of time running.
Thank you Captain obvious! For telling us that a 1000 dollars motherboard is not for budget PC's 😂😂😂😂jay you just made my day hahahaha
I agree that this is way too expensive, but it is, indeed, very interesting what goes into a $1000 board.
Yeah, you get a $300 motherboard with $50 in LEDs and $650 in cables and packaging they spent $20 on.
I wonder whether the overclocking buttons are just increasing the price or whether they're are actually useful. I can't imagine an overclocker using the buttons.
@@jacobsvideochannel5998 usually the important part about overclocking motherboards is the hardware and build quality, it focuses on stuff like high quality power delivery and system stability
You must enjoy using commas, when leaving, comments, for us to read.
@@spankbuda5760 It is, indeed, a language habit, since english uses little to none commas, it can truly be hard for native speakers to read something that someone with other language base wrote.
I've been building computers for 23 year and recently I built a 13th gen system with a z790 motherboard and I had to spend $500 to get the board with the features I was looking for. Never in 23 years has a mobo been that expensive to get a decent feature set. I'm baffled the direction we are going.
makes sense. the cost of all the components that are on the board are expensive too + they are packaginng it all together too. It seems a bit over priced because it literally has no processing power on board, but it does enable to you to get the most out of the chips you put on it. Because CPU's and GPU's are so much more capable today the motherboard also has to keep up too so all the components are just more expensive.
@@VanSanProductions It's not just about component cost. Sure, that's obviously a factor but companies like MSI and ASUS are charging these prices because they can. It's really that simple.
@@JJFX- Oh, definitely.
2.5 years ago I spent €200 on a B550 motherboard (the same board is around €250 now), a similarly spec'd B650 one from the same brand and product line is €325.
Even if you take into account inflation and chip shortages, the premium is still very much chosen by the manufacturers.
Thank I'm not alone in this sinking boat. I'm looking around for next build but at those prices i might get a laptop and upgrade more frequently...
This is insane AMD b650 here are 300USD.
It's basically a gaming tax.
I sunk $300 for z790 ddr5 and the price shot upto $400 in a week. MOBO prices are going nutz
We wait for 2 years with GPU prices through the roof, then as soon as they come down to a reasonable price, the manufacturers are like... "Heh... those fools paid stupid prices for the video cards for years... Let's see if they'll do it for the rest of the components now!"
True bro, they milking us at this point
Atleast ram and storage is cheap
Copium
@@markojovanovic9651 Only if the memory is DDR4. DDR5 is still at least double in price what DDR4 is. A shame you can't run a computer on just RAM and storage. A budget build is now at least £1000 to £1500(CPU graphics vs GPU).
@Davinia Robbins uhhh no. it's more like $600
Pcie 4.0 SSDs are getting cheaper.
My experience with high-end boards is that bugs don't get picked up because the user base is so small.
Actually a great point. I just paid 200 for b550 and was baffled to find out it was actually a good price.. The times of 70$ mid tier mainboard seem to be over sadly :(
Was hoping for a foldable motherboard at 1000$
You can fold it if you try hard enough. However it's no longer worth $1000 after you fold it!
The boxes are foldable.
The only foldable thing is now your bank account.
Watch part 2 of this video. He drops the MB, nothing new for him, and shows you the first foldable MB.
You can fold it once
Bro you have no clue how hyped I am to build my newest build soon, a little over two weeks from now, i'll be trying to get something going with streaming. You've gave me the knowledge and confidence to build a PC in the first place. Thank you.
Thanks for this video. Spent last week in the hospital and had a weeks worth of your videos stacked up, and now this unboxing makes for a great Christmas gift. This motherboard is way out of my range but it was still nice to see.
Now it’s time for the ultimate face off: an all Asus ROG build vs. all EVGA build, with price to performance
Didn't evga stop making graphic cards because the 4000 series was too expensive?
@@EVOCAT jay has a evga 4090 they gave one to him since they did make a few.
What price to performance? Motherboard prices are worse than GPUs these days, relatively speaking.
@@ArcturusCOG no, it's EVGA next gen graphics. They don't have a license to make the 4090 ;)
GIGAbyte AoRUS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asus ROG >>>>>> EVGA...
Hey Jay just wanted to thank you for all your useful videos they were really helpful to me, just finished building my new gaming/work rig following many of your advices. Thanks a lot man and keep the good work
They likely didn't want to push the RAM further out to preserve maximum signal integrity.
For $1000 it better blow a lot more than my mind!
I started watching your channel back in the 8350 days. You went from a bedroom to a vast studio space. Merry Christmas, Jay, to you and your family.
I had an 8150, then got the 8350... I still have it, but it isn't in use. I'm thinking of putting it on eBay.
@@ulysses2162 im still using a 8350 here
Put all of those temp probes on the 4090 power connector just to make sure.
All the info is great, but I appreciate the Strong Bad reference the most.
Merry Christmas!
Had me laughing at the end. "The system is down The system is down!". I havent heard a StrongBad reference in years!
*I'M BLIND! MY PRAYERS HAVE FINALLY BEEN ANSWERED!*
I start to sweat when a motherboard is more than $280
Fr, no reason to get an extremely expensive motherboard. As long as it has all the ports and features you need or want it’s fine.
I get heart palpitations above $450..
Boy you must be dripping nowdays
Yeah I feel spending more than $300 on a MB is too much.
My first build about half a year ago used a 100 dollar motherboard.
Can't wait to see the build when it's done
Been using this board since AM5 launched. The bios updates really made a significant difference in the experience, and I’m comfortably OCing my 2 x 32gb 6000mhz cl30 kit to 6400 mhz cl32 using the presets in the bios.
6000mhz holy fuck
Does it give you a happy ending? If not...
The one time I spent more than 400 on a MB it died on me in like 3 months. Since then I like to stay in the 200-300 range and have never had a problem with them when it comes to OCing the CPU and RAM. Though I never go to the extremes either.
@Don tbf I don't think they're gonna spend another 400 for the sake of "sample rate" after an experience like that
nobody should spend more than 100 dollars on a motherboard
200-300? Im no expert on mobos, but i am a gamer, a coder and an engineer, i do a lot with my machine....I've always had everything i need in the 80-150 range. Usually i spend 100-120.
What does that 2x+ you spend give you? Genuinely curious.
@@NoName-to5xl bells and whistles + MORE RGB 🤑🤑🤑🤑
I have gone 3 of these exact Motherboards, I bought from Amazon. My issue was the usb ports at the back were loose and kept disconnecting my devices every time j moved or touched geb cable. Because I was so adamant in owning this board my 4th board was ok.
The thing that always gets me about these boards is that there's a trade-off the more M.2 or PCIe slots you use. That Gen5 PCIe card will make the first x16 slot run at x8. Now Gen5 x8 is pretty much Gen4 x16, so it won't hurt current rigs, but if Gen5 GPU's start hitting the market, even if they're not fully utilizing that speed, it might be a concern for some. And sometimes using specific M.2 slots has the same effect, either turning the first x16 into a x8 or shutting off the second PCIe slot entirely. As for that GenZ.2, if I recall one side is Gen5 the other side is Gen4, so if you can't run both a Gen5 and Gen4 at full speeds, kind of feels pointless to do that.
Since pci-e Gen 7 just launched this year I feel they might skip Gen 5 gpus and go to gen 6 since the next gen of cards is still 2+ years away with the current overstock of chips that amd and nvidia have because of their bloated orders tsmc won't allow them to cancel.
Actually, it would affect less if the GPU was PCIe 5.0. Even if the slot is capable of PCIe 5.0 x8 it will run at 4.0 x8 when you put a Gen 4 GPU in it.
Yeah that's why I'm sticking to AM4 version of this MB. Can't we have 3-5 M.2 SSDs without turning the primary x16 pcie slot into x8? Probably not possible with the available lanes but hopefully in the near future with 8000 or 9000 CPUs that would require a 1600w PSU or a small nuclear reactor.
Funnily enough you don't have to make this compromise with the cheaper boards. The Asus TUF Gaming X670E-plus (about £350) has 20 pcie 5.0 lanes and splits them between the first pcie x16 slot and a single m.2 slot (which is x4) with everything else running at pcie 4.0 or 3.0. The only compromise you have to make with that one is running the pcie 3.0 m.2 slot at x2 instead of x4 if you want to use the SATA ports.
@spankeyfish sadly for me, for my new build I'm transplanting my existing three drives which is one Gen3 M.2, and two SATA SSD's. I also need about at least 8 USB slots on the back of the motherboard.
I have the x570 version of this board, the built in thunderbolt and 10gbe are pretty sweet for a media creation workstation, plus it can support 5 m.2 drives so it's great. To get all 5 drives supported you have to swap the PCIe settings in bios to make the top slot an x8 slot, but I have had no issues running it like that with my 3080, and zero drive failures or issues either. Expensive line of motherboards but they are awesome.
The primary m.2 slot is under the block that runs horizontal just above the gpu slot - same as in the am4 version of the motherboard. Also make sure that your gpu backplate isn't too thick to prohibit fitting it because of that block.
Searching through comments all day to find someone pointing out this main m.2 slot, thank you bro😊
You mean the one with a block that houses a singular m.2? The one that connects to the PCIE 5 slot?
Why not in the Gen Z.2 drive? I'm confused. 😕
@@Tennosou I doubleckecked the specs, and that block doesnt have any M.2 slot underneath.
@zhangbohaoovid the block with the LED of the ROG logo? Yeah, think that one does not. But the one below it does, and it can house 2 m.2 ssds.
Apparently, those are the last slots you should use in terms of performance, correct me if im wrong.
@@Tennosou Because its a pcie 5 m.2 slot.... if you use the gen z.2 drive with both a pcie 5 and pcie 4 m.2's, your boot drive with default to pcie 4 speeds. thats not the case if you only use one of the slots on the z.2 but that wouldnt be very smart
Never in a million years will I buy this MB BUT man is it cool to see
i have the intel one, z690 maximus extreme, and it is by far the worst value i've ever seen. Basically a $450 mobo with fancy screens all over it and a lot of useless accessories.
it doesn't even have a DP port for fucks sake. and it has 1 less USB port than their mid range boards -___-
Jay that is a kickass board for sure. You are right about the size of the board and case compatibility. I am running the ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 HDMI Extended ATX AMD Motherboard and was planning on using the Corsair 5000D but the grommets were too close and could not make the bend so i went with the Corsair 7000D Airflow and it worked perfect. Looking forward to your build with this board but i wish you would have done an build with the AM4 version you reviewed.
me have same motherboard like you... :P
my setup:
Chassi: In Win Gnone
( Old but good and work find for me)
Cpu: ryzen 9 5950X (OC and UnderVolting 5Ghz )
Cpu Cooler: EK-AIO 360 Elite D-RGB
Motherborad: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME
Ram Kit 1: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz
Ram Kit 2: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz
( Total Ram: 64Gb )
Gpu 1: GainWard Phantom 3080 GS
Gpu 2: Gigabyte 1080ti Gaming OC
SSD 1 : M.2 Nvme Samsung 970 pro 512GB
( Duel Boot System, win 10 education, kali, Parrot )
SSD 2: M.2 Nvme samsung 970 evo plus 2tb (For Games Only )
SSD 3: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB
( For LAB And VM = Virtual Machine Only )
SSD 4: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB
( For Games And Program/Apps Only )
SSD 5: samsung 870 evo plus 1tb
( For Vst and Sample Only )
HDD: WD Red Disk "256MB" Total 10TB
Optical Drive: Asus Blu-Ray Burner
Psu: SilverStone 1500W Strider Gold S 80c
I know i need new chassi/chase, so i can get USB Type C and hight Speed too...:P
On getting 3 generations out of a motherboard, I bought only a mid-high mobo and cpu back in 2011 and got 12 years out of it. I didn't know this existed and got one of their lower price ones for my new PC I plan to have for another 10 years
The wire grommets are NOT usable in the be quiet! Dark Base 900 R2 case. The BIG heatsink at the top required the radiator be mounted on top and the fans on bottom(be quiet! Silent Loop 360 and Light Wings 120s, respectively) which worked out well, so far. The removable top cover fits and and everything seems to have adequate clearance. Saw a max CPU temp of 62 C running MSFS2020 with an air-cooled ASUS TUF RTX3090 O24 where the heat really comes from otherwise the computer case is cool and silent until you start up the sim. Time will tell if the kilo-dollar board was worth it. Now for a RTX4090...ROG Strix
I still have my crosshair vi hero from first gen and just upgraded from a 1700x to a 5700x and wow I cannot believe that chips got that much faster. And it’s been pretty good. Probably gonna pair a 6900xt with it and finally retire my old 1070ti.
Fun fact the X670E Extreme does fit in a O11 Evo but you won't be able to plug in any sata drives with out removing the hard drive tray as theirs barely any room with 13 fans and a lot of cables underneath the cable management tray.
Have the front mesh panel with 3 fans mounted.
Currently waiting for a replacement Asus X670E Extreme as the first unit was defective.
I'm tempted to order a Lian Li v3000 plus or wait for the O11 Evo XL.
13 fans lol. I'm not an engineer but I can tell you 3 fans can work better than that, the case design has to create a vacuum with highest airflow. Might even be more efficient and energy saving.
13 fans 💀
@Fyn Kozari had for intake
3 front, 3 side, 3 bottom.
Exhaust 1 rear, 3 top.
Originally tried for 6 on top for a push and pull but the VRM was too tall.
This board also fits in the O11 Air mini
I'm running the full 13 fans in my O11Evo, just because. I like excess!
On one hand, it's nice that this board includes all these cables and splitters and daughter boards and stuff.
...on the other hand, _it's a $1000 motherboard._ It'd better.
Pretty loaded when you look at all the accessories. I can see some easy tiers by dropping X or Y accessory/feature. Cool stuff!
Am4 is still great value! I bought a returned Asus Crosshair Dark Hero for 220 USD. Most of the value and luxury for 1/4 the price.
Yeah, but for people like me, upgrading every 6 years, really gotta choose carefully. Im gonna skip Nvidia 3000 series. Maybe even 4000.
@@fynkozari9271 Im staying on 3000 series till probably 5000. Everything is too expensive now
Dark Hero for 220 is great value. but it was not launched at that price.
Most, not all.
Imagine having only 1 audio output on the back for 1000$
be honest if you that rich you can afford that board you should also get a soundcard
Oh, and it can't do Dolby Digital out because Asus uses bottom shelf DAs
Tbh if you’re spending 1000+ on a motherboard and still using integrated audio, you’ve lost the plot.
@@keine_ahnung_wie_der_heisst and that way this card is bad, you can buy other cards and the soundcard for the same price has this
Comments like these (and the people who like them) shows how out of touch so many people in the tech community are. Imagine getting a 1K motherboard and using integrated audio 😂😂😂😂
I have the previous gen previous model of this board the Hero VIII am4 x570 and I have nothing but praise for them, they are very very good especially for connectivity and options in the bios the build quality and all
I was wondering whether it comes with 10gig NIC, so I checked and indeed it does.
I'm glad this is finally found on "consumer" boards.
1gig has been the standard for way too long, especially considering for how long higher speeds have been available on consumer server boards (such as those by Supermicro). The documentation is downright insane in comparison, too.
I agree, 1 GBit NiC is the standard for... pretty much 20 years by now. The issue is just that 10 GBit RJ45 NiCs use a lot of power (several Watts), which needs additional cooling. But I wouldn't mind seeing motherboards with 10GBit SFP+ ports...
Nice board. I would be waiting for the 3D cache cpu's for this board as it deserves the very best of every component. So, in USD, a new box with all the latest and fastest components fitted and all available slots filled.....could this be a USD $10,000 build or more. Looking forward to see what Jay comes up with.
Well this is unfortunate
I would say put your main NVME m.2 on the board not the GEN-Z.2 due to it using the CPU PCIe lanes vs chipset lanes. Specifically the left m.2 slot which is the one that uses the 4x lanes AMD AM5 has for m.2 use(the other 4x General purposes CPU PCIe lanes seem to be used for the Intel JHL8540 USB4 controller(yes this does allow Thunderbolt even though it isn't mentioned).
Using the right m.2 slot will cut your main PCIe5 slot to 8x and your second PCIe5 slot to 4x. This is also why the PCIe adapter only has one slot I assume as using it also cuts your main PCIe5 slot to 8x. So 4x for this and 4x second board m.2 slot(right one). AMD AM5 only has 28 PCIe 5 lanes: 16 lanes for PCIe5 slots and 8x General Purpose lanes(4x used here for the primary m.2 and 4x for the USB4/Thunderbolt chip(i think), 4x to link to the chipset. The GEN-Z.m is chipset as far as I know so is not as fast.
The main reason I got this board was for the RAID so I did a lot of benchmarks. It's RAID sucks for SATA HDD. I tried 2 Exos and then 2 IronWolf Pro 18 TB. RAIDxpert 2 drops the RAID on waking from sleep for Windows 11. Did a ton of trouble shooting with no luck. The NVME m.2 RAID is pretty fast though. Even on the chipset slots VS the CPU slots.
2x 2TB Kingston FURY Renegades gen4 in RAID 0 get 14135MB/s(SEQ1M Q8T1) on CPU lanes and 10722MB/s (SEQ1M Q8T1) on the ROG GEN-Z.2 adapter. I did a lot of benchmarks of these and Terramaster D8-332 RAID Thunderbolt enclosure with 8 Seagate Exos 18TB in RAID 0 and 1/0.
Also on the GEN-Z.2 adapter one side is NVME Gen 5 and one is Gen 4. I assume they expect the Gen5 NVME to be hotter hence the pipe only on one side.
I was thinking the same thing and was confused when he said he would put his main M.2 in the GEN-Z.2 slot.
I've been loving my Crosshair x670e extreme. As far as actual functional computing, it's irrelevant. But for the extra Liquid Cooling headers and the connectivity as well as the flashy lights, it can't be beat.
Jay is correct, I have the Intel version of this and while there is the wow all boxes are checked, It caused such a headache when I was trying to create the build I had in mind. Everyway I turned it caused an issue due to the 90* connectors. So Inverted, or even virtical were out of the question.
Also another thing to note is that the Animatrix screen and Asus logo will have configuration issues and stop working with other software like EVGA Precision X.
I bought the strix x670E gamining wif, and that was my absolute top. I had a hard time buying even this one, but I figured I am swapping platforms along with RAM, so might as well just buy a nice motherboard and be done with it.
More money =/= better board. You buy one that has the feature set you're looking for. Otherwise you're just paying more money to look pretty.
Honestly, that thing is like $300 more than it should be.
More like 700 more than it should be
@@audhen1 $300 is not a flagship motherboard, I’d say $500 is a very reasonable flagship.
@@thetshadow999animates9 who cares when performance is on par with low to midrange mobos anyway...
@@ceasarcruz8312 some people want features or even just the look.
@@thetshadow999animates9 what features, the same ones that are on cheaper boards? 🤣🤣🤣
Have this Board with a 7950 and 4090, works for me still learning the facts of life overclocking but has most cores at 5500.
GET EM JAY!!! Love the video and thanks for the heads up!
Damn son, I bought a £650 threadripper board not that long ago, and that was high end and expensive.
This is... stupid. But hey, at least it comes with a ton of RGB. Two and a half whole PCIe slots too. So generous.
back when I made my PC in 2018 a $300-$500 motherboard was considered super high end with the $500 considered outrageous. By the time of my next PC I will just be outpriced of this hobby.
@@GrandSil90 There will always be cheap alternatives. Of course stuff gets more expensive as time goes on. While indeed the ceiling on what you can possibbly spend on any kind of pc-hardware has gone WAY up, the lower end will always be there.
Consider this. PC-Gaming is still going very strong and game developers allways have an eye on what kind of machines people are actually running (steam statistics and all that) and they will always make sure that people can actually play their games. So when few can get the new expensive shiny hardware, game developers will just support older hardware for a much longer time. Good example would be the PS4 support from even Sony Games. Their biggest games this year all came out for PS4 as well (God of War Ragnarok, Grant Turismo 7 and Horizon Forbinden West) because PS5 production was falling behind because of the chip shortage while the PS4 install base is something like 120 million.
What this means for pc gaming: I think, because of the ongoing worldwide financial crisis combined with the ridiculous price increases for higher end GPUs, a lot of people in the next 5 years won't be upgrading as often (if ever) and not getting top of the line cards anymore. Cards like a 3050, 3060, 6600, 6700xt (and all versions in bettween) will be relevant for a very long time because game studios will target these specs. Most GPU intensive games will also come out with DLSS and FSR support. As long as your rig is about as powerful as a Series S (not even PS5/SeriesX) you will be running games at medium to high settings on your 1080p display for a long time. The defining FOMO-Feature of the next years will be raytracing but baked lighting is still so good, that it barely matters.
Big games like Call of Duty have ridiculous budgets but publisher need to actually sell these games in massive quantities and these games NEED to run on consoles, including the Series S. Sure, the next Grand Theft Auto is likely going to be next gen only and a bit of a graphics showcase but I'd be surprised if a 3060 or 6600 couldn't produce absolutely beautiful graphics at 1080p at 60fps with DLSS or FSR.
Yeah, it is stupid though the people who care about pcie lanes tend to be folks doing virtualization with an IOMMU. How many other use cases are there?
@@brettfo You'd be surprised how many file-copy, decompression/recompression, video transcode, and other kinds of work-related operations can be accelerated from a couple minutes to a couple seconds just by having enough IO and cores in one place.
Pricey, but to some people, worth it in terms of money earned or just frustration avoided.
Fun fact about all that RGB: since launch, there has been a BIOS "bug" that ignores any attempt to have it turn off RGB ("stealth mode") when the system is in soft-off state. You disable RGB, save the changes, it says it's disabling it, you reboot, and the setting is already enabled again. So every time you power down the system or put it to sleep, it goes straight to rainbow vomit mode. And there's a lot of it.
Since one of the can't-stop-the-signal RGB panels is the ROG logo, it's hard to believe that's not intentional. Especially since I've observed the exact same behavior on a Z790E board.
I remember when a top of the line motherboard used to still be like $300
I'm glad I went with the Zenith II Extreme for my Threadripper station because of the DIMM.2. It wasn't a selling point for me when I bought it. But I was thankful to have it a year later when my laptop wasn't being used anymore and a 2TB m.2 I could take out and use in my desktop. That drive replaced my 10 year old 3TB Seagate Barracuda as my games drive.
This is the board I would of gotten. But a few week before hand I got scammed by Asus support, they charged me $900 to just fail to repair my PG27uq. Then blamed it on the firmware update I did 2 years before hand saying that caused the FPGA to fail in it. I pulled it apart myself and fixed it in half a hour since it was just cracked soldering on the SMD fuses.
So I got the Gigabyte Aorus x670e xtreme instead and will never buy Asus again.
This is really useful to me. I am getting the ASUS ROG X670E Crosshair Hero motherboard. I think the same.
Only minor differences between the boards. I chose the hero for my upgrade. The hero doesn't have the dimm.2 slot, but it does come with an add in pcie card instead.
_If you’re going to spend $1000 on a motherboard, make sure the copper tracings in the motherboard is made of pure silver over copper, because pure silver allows Electrical currents and data to flow faster than copper_
17:11 Excellent Strongbad reference, Jay. You truly are a man of culture.
This is why I'm sticking with AM4 and an in socket upgrade for now. (Rog Crosshair VIII Dark Hero with a 5800X3D.) It isn't because of the ram, although I already have a really good Samsung B-die kit.(G Skillz 3600mhz with cl14-14-14-35 timing.)
100% think Strix or ProArt are a way better deal with the majority of what the crosshairs motherboards get for half the price
If you can find a proart board for sale
I've been a fan of their TUF line since the Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1. For me they strike an excellent balance between price, features and stability, and they don't go crazy with the aesthetic design.
Last time , ProArt was basically C8E without the bullshit. Even had the thunderbolt. I would recommend proart over extreme to anyone. Except my C8E blew up on resume twice and the third replacement was covered in scratches so I would actually recommend not buying Asus, especially at this price..
So is there any noticeable performance difference with a 1K mobo compared to a $200-$300 one?
of course but i feel like there is definitely massively diminishing returns after the $500 or even $400 price point
@@syf_jojiahhh2834 Based on what? You say there is, but do you have evidence to prove your point?
If your not buying the cheapest, most crummy motherboard out there? you will be find with a $200 motherboard. If there's features you don't use on it, it's wasted cash.
@@viscountalpha it’s based on the fact that the performance of these boards simply don’t scale linearly with the price. I’m not going to explain or show the measurements to you, there are plenty of those on YT. I’m speaking very generally here, I’m not going to give supporting evidence just to explain it to you, you can do your own research. If you have to ask that, then it seems like you either disagree or just don’t know anything about the subject
There is zero performance difference in mobos lol. As long as there are current gen compatibility stuff then there is literally zero difference
I’m using that exact board did a new build mid December with the new ryzen chip. The board is amazing
almost 4 mill jay, well done, been here since you where in the 200k.
Something I would be very interested in seeing is how this motherboard, plus Ryzen 9 7950x (AMD's current flagship) would handle 128GB of DDR5 6000/6400Mhz. That is this motherboard's supposed maximum ram and speed. Would this beas... um, motherboard, help to relieve some of the latency issues?
Even if you spent $5000 on a board, it's still not going to run 128GB at 6000 MT/s. If you are really lucky, you might get it stable around ~5000. Otherwise you're stuck with 64GB on Zen 4.
It would not, as it’s not a motherboard issue, but memory controller issue, and is clearly documented in AMDs spec. 4x32 is technically 2*4 chip selects to get to the right place when addressing the RAM. No motherboard will change this.
U are looking for a Enterprise focused build then like Threadrippers motherboards. Something that supports quad channel ram
I use 128Gb of G.Skill 6000Mhz rated memory on the x670e Crosshair Extreme and while it remains amazingly fast (I can OC it to 6200 stably btw, but while I say that, it does cause a crash about once a month or so, which I think is actually a Windows issues, so whatever... but it's 100% the memory speed as I never get crashes set at 6000 so I stick to 6000, and you know what who cares, it's amazing as is), it is still limited because of the memory controller spec. 6400Mhz is really pushing it. This isn't a limitation of the motherboard uniquely, it's just the memory controller spec, which you can't really do anything about afaik (correct me if I'm wrong here pls). Same issue with any other motherboard afaik.
Maybe you want an EPYC or Threadripper for omega memory? Quad channel might be where it's at for you depending on your use case. I really doubt you'd be unhappy with a 7950X and the x670e Crosshair Extreme though.
@@MyZombieLick Nothing to correct, you're spot on. Currently available 32GB DDR5 DIMMs are 2 ranks per stick, and the slots themselves are 2 per channel. The memory controller has to go through two chip selects to address a memory block, which takes time (latency). In addition to that, there is some bandwidth weirdness inherent to AM5 CPUs so occasionally, during higher bus loads things get unstable.
It is what it is.
AMD themselves do NOT recommend going beyond 4500 or whatever the number was.
Expensive!
I have the ROG Z790 Hero with a 13900K, and I just love this motherboard. The best of the best.
Got the same one, only the z690e! :)
LOVING IT!!!
Fun Fact: Yesterday i built my pc in a G360A, its a very beatiful case. In the Case i have a 7 5700x, rx 6800 pulse, B550-a Gaming, Corsair Vengeance pro, Alpenföhn Gletscherwasser 360 and a coolermaster v v2 gold 850+ Watt. Its a Monster in playing high quality games. The case has very good airflow. My GPU is on load at 65° and my Cpu is around 55° on load while the case fans are on 1100 rpm
Good for you
That's not a fun fact, that's just something you did on your own
Who asked?
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@@Garfield192 🤣
You get ripped off is what you get lmao
Agreed, complete waste of money.
i got one on a great open box deal, and my buddy got an even better open box deal on his from microcenter. The board IS weighty. Pairing this with a Ryzen 9 7950X and a 7900 XTX (we both are) and doing hard line tubing in the ThermalTake Level 20 HT Snow. Planning on painting those heat sinks, too, like Declassified Systems does. Mine will be up on an old Nanocube Aquarium pedestal I have.
My last at home AMD system was a 1090t back in 2011 so I feel you
Thanks for the insight, but I'm still confused why Bitcoin and crypto prices keep dropping? This drop follows a number of other significant drops in recent weeks. I still hold enormous value of cryptos and it scares me. Whats your take on this?
There are many reasons for this drop in value. One of the main reasons is that there is an ongoing debate about whether or not Bitcoin should be regulated as a security or as a currency.
I would advice you to trade your assets rather than hodl for a future you aren't sure about, only predictions.
@@beverly8480 Well, I've tried but was so confused with the inflation in price, due to the pointers on how to make substantial progress in earnings?
@@thomasrichard3166 If you are not conversant with the markets, I'd advise you to get some kind of advise or assistance from a financial/investing coach. It might sound basic or generic, but getting in touch with an investment broker was how I was able to outperform the market and raise a profit of $2.5M For me, its the most ideal way to jump into the market these days
@@beverly8480 That's sum cool profit. I dream of that
You get a 250$ value at the cost of 1000$
Does all the stuff here worth 1K$? Probably not, but does it worth 250$ haha in your dream maybe.
I think that price point is for a specific use case scenario. I however, always purchase high-end motherboards from Asus ROG for my systems, especially in the Intel HEDT range that last multiple generations.
This is true, you get what you pay for.
Please do a full build video for this motherboard.
This guy cracks me up each and every time as I'm always reminded of his tech support challenge with Gamers Nexus. We all know how that went.
My new Z690 TUF Board for the 13700k build was 285 minus 50 cashback. There was almost nothing in the box besides the board. At least it was kinda inexpensive. I was deciding between that and the Prime for 199.
But I love the little Q mounts for the m.2 drives.
Can't wait to see the build with this
Just completed a 7800x3d build. My last AMD was a 1st gen Athlon :D
I LOL'd at the Homestar Runner reference. Strong Bad FTW!!!!
I bought this on release day. Love it and hate it at the same time. It's wide enough that it blocked my grommets, so I decided to upgrade my case to accommodate. The PCI-e riser card is pointlessly large, and should half been half height. Beautiful board, but hurt the pocketbook.
For those planning to use every PCIE slot on their X670E MB, this and the MSI MEG are the only two boards that can accommodate a RTX4090 without the 2nd slot being blocked.
I remember paying something close for a x99 rog rampage extreme back in the days. It was an awesome board.
Merry Christmas Jay!
Jay's video's are always entertaining.
Thanks for showing, feels bit like getting for 500 DM a CO processor for the Amiga 500
Actually just bought this board yesterday Jan 11th. glad i saw this vid.
I love all the features it offers and the look but the price. That is almost half my budget for my build and then a gfx cand that's more than some ppl's budget. Honestly one day I would love Jay to do a vid on like what is a good feature set to look for for people and have like the 1k build. 1.5k and 2 or 2.5k build
I still rock a crosshair vi extreme, paired with a 5900x! I love it! This one will be my next upgrade next year, probably!
this is a good motherborad you have and god Cpu too.. :P
my setup:
Chassi: In Win Gnone
( Old but good and work find for me)
Cpu: ryzen 9 5950X (OC and UnderVolting 5Ghz )
Cpu Cooler: EK-AIO 360 Elite D-RGB
Motherborad: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII EXTREME
Ram Kit 1: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz
Ram Kit 2: Team Group Delta 32gb kit 3200hz
( Total Ram: 64Gb )
Gpu 1: GainWard Phantom 3080 GS
Gpu 2: Gigabyte 1080ti Gaming OC
SSD 1 : M.2 Nvme Samsung 970 pro 512GB
( Duel Boot System, win 10 education, kali, Parrot )
SSD 2: M.2 Nvme samsung 970 evo plus 2tb (For Games Only )
SSD 3: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB
( For LAB and VM = virtual machine Only )
SSD 4: M.2 Nvme Kingstone Fury Renegade 2TB
( For Games And Program/Apps Only )
SSD 5: samsung 870 evo plus 1tb
( For Vst and Sample Only )
HDD: WD Red Disk "256MB" Total 10TB
Optical Drive: Asus Blu-Ray Burner
Psu: SilverStone 1500W Strider Gold S 80c
I know i need new chassi/chase, so i can get USB Type C and hight Speed too...:P
I used this board in my latest build, it is amazing once they released the new bios
I'm putting together a high end built in a few months. I probably would consider this if there were more M.2 slots. Plus, if I ended up deciding on a 4090 SUPRIM for example, I would be done to 4. Really do like the Gen Z option, though.
The last ROG Extreme board I bought was a p67 Maximus IV Extreme, it wasn't exactly cheap but this is nuts.
ROG True Voltician communicates with the USB through the MCU, and opens the ROG True Voltician software to display it on the web, displaying the real-time voltage waveform curve of "OSCILLOSCOPE SYSTEM", and can record the relevant data in the "DATA ANALYSIS" and save it in *.CSV format.
still using my crosshair hero VI i bought when ryzen first came out, but now it has a 5900x. was expensive at the time, but has lasted a long time !!
I just looked up the price on that in Canada, $1,595 on Newegg. The MSI MEG Godlike is $1799.
I already have a Crosshair VIII DARK HERO. Paying my rent to top pirority now. Probably in three years, I'll upgrade to this X670E.
Was that a Strongbad reference?!?! 17:11 Ahhhh man. Don’t see that everyday 😂
As someone who usually doesn't read manuals, I like how he keeps opening things up and guessing what they are. I'm sure the manual tells you Jay lol
Btw the screw hole below the crosshair logo is also a m.2 slot found that out on mine after I completely built it
I'd be more interested in a piece-by- piece breakdown of the manufacturing cost, showing how much is going to component quality, licenses for firmware of bleeding edge features, decorative panels (supposedly good for heat dissipation, usu, but I'm not convinced), and then of course, profit margin.
Knowing the cost of each feature would tell us how mfrs' priorities stack up to ours.
I have the Crosshair VIII Extreme board and it's well worth the money if you plan on going full feature.
I'd also look for an NVMe under the OLED screen (there's one on my Crosshair VIII)
Wife has a B550-A board for her white build, but she needs a card for Wifi/Bluetooth, a board for 10GB/sec Ethernet for NAS, and she's running out of I/O.
The Extreme has it all baked in. And I'm ready for 2x 4/8TB NVMe's in the DIMM.2 in the future.
Better VRM keeps my 5950X stable, and gives me headroom for OC'ing.
With all the baked in features, and add ons supplied, I'd guess that technically it's cheaper to go for the extreme boards if you plan on eventually using all those options on the board.
That's my 2 cents.
I was building a new PC this month. I was sock, when I'm seeing the price for AM5 motherboard. I have now a ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI for €340. I'm happy with that.
I have this board with a 5950x and I love it. Best board I’ve ever had.
I'm on the X790. Love it.
It's strange to see that X670E doesn't have an additional M.2 slot under the heatsink with the integrated LCD screen under the CPU, like the Z690 version of this board does.
I spent $700 on my board back in 2019 which is now going for over $1k on Amazon today. Asus Rog Zenith Extreme Alpha X399 HEDT Gaming Motherboard AMD Threadripper 2
I'm going back to AMD since last having a Phenom II x3....cant wait
Finally decided to update to x670 and been looking at this board. My goodness does it get terrible reviews! Not because of the high price. TONS of stability issues even with the latest drivers in 2024.