Facts! He sounds like that dude who got punked at recess, waits for the bully to leave, then tells everybody much damage he could've done to the bully!😂
It’s okay to admit you aren’t the smartest man in the room when you aren’t. That’s what bugged Ish he wasn’t the most knowledgeable once Dr. Umar walked in
Exactly! Umar is an assassin when it comes to black talk. Wasn’t nobody on the Joe Budden Podcast gonna out talk him. Ish just mad bc he’s a part of the snow bunny crisis!
He couldn’t drag him about the school situation bc he just lied about his main point. Umar purchased the school in 2019, so he wasn’t building the school for 14 years. Now yes, he has been collecting money for 10+ years. But to Ish’s point, where does collecting money have to do with the actual construction? That alone shows that Ish never had an angle and he was gonna try some BS that he heard on social media.. and he know that would’ve really gotten bad for him bc he ain’t tryna do nearly as much as Umar for black people.. even with his 20 years of experience. Ish is a bozo with nothing real to offer besides gossiping with a bunch of men.
No disrespect to Ish, but this is my problem with brothers not coming together. If you’ve been in the construction business for 20 + years why not collaborate with Umar to finish construction of the school? Something isn’t adding up. If you have the means, and see the need why not just get it done????
If Ish could have, he would have. He was totally outmatched and woefully unprepared. Trying to come at him on the school humble is some slimy b-made "ish." And instead of accepting defeat and studying more, you talk trash behind his back. We know what side of the Black Civil War you'd be on. 🤡
Ish gotta stop it. What reason would Ish had to bring up the school situation when they never even had a discussion remotely close to that. The highlight of the conversation was Umar criticizing Ish for being with a white girl. On top of that, ish building houses has nothing to do with building a school. On top of that, Umar hasn’t been “building” a school for 14 years. He just bought 2 a few years ago. He got bought it off of “black” donation money. No grants and loans. So Ish would’ve lost that argument too.
That means you don’t know much if you think he’s the one and only one. So many ppl are fighting the good fight out here. He’s very outspoken but nothing he’s telling the ppl is new. You could find out as much as he knows and do the same thing he does too, if you searched and researched the same information.
@@selftalkwithsal4229 Umar doesn’t pose any more of a threat than so many other black advocates for our ppl. If he did, they would’ve got rid of him already. He doesn’t walk around with bodyguards, and moves around freely. Someone of our own kind who’s a real threat would have to be protected. Just study our major historical leaders and you’ll understand what I’m saying.
Don’t do that Ish, I don’t like that he’s tryna make it seem like because Dr. Umar is personable and can be down to earth he’s performative and it’s all a game. And building houses and building schools ain’t the same.
C'mon Ish! You my guy but you had no chance in that conversation. I mean none! Primarily because Umar is a scholar and two because dat ish was true. There is no amount of homework you could have done to debate Umar and that is ok, because thats not what you do. And yall corny for not getting on yall platform a being able to tell Ish this, instead yall wanna re-enforce his defense like yall don't know who Umar is. I still rock with yall, just tighten up.
Ish I watched the whole pod. You just kept repeating “Imma crack you” and didnt crack anything. You didnt spit any facts, data, figures, nothing 🤣🤣 I understand your construction point (maybe you held back on the school topic) but the pod was 5 hours long and yall talked about way more subjects 🤣🤣
I didn't watch it the podcast. I've been a licensed contractor for 27 years and I don't understand ish point in this video. Ish is talking like what Umar is doing is a cake walk.
Umar has been unemployed for at least 10+ years. He ain't no school principal anywhere. He got no psychologist office anywhere. He lives off donations and speaking engagements.He has a few children out of wedlock he is not even allowed to see according to him. He has no black family and has not delivered a school after 15 years of collecting money ( he started collecting in 2009). He also never attended an HBCU. He just points his finger and condemns people left and right for the same shit he is doing. I think anybody who does a bit of research on Umar can cook him but people don't want to hold him accountable because they like his rhetoric. Anyways If he was really interested in educating black boys he would've been teaching in a room or under a tree or doing an afterschool program somewhere. You don't need to build a school to teach. He is 100% smoke and mirrors.
@@FishMan_001 Not really. Everything dude said is accurate. If you know what school he tenured as principal &/or what hospital/practice employed him as a psychologist please share with the class.
Didn't Ish, get upset and walk out of the interview before it was over???? Dr.Umar defeated Ish on every level if Ish did the best he could under the circumstances there is no shame in his @ss whippin.
Ish no you couldn’t 😂dude one of those I’m always the smartest in the room cats who finally finds his match then refuse to take the L. This is classic lightskin energy
This is why you never D eat/fanboy someone just because they have a name. When will people learn Social Media is fake? Stop crashing out over characters
thats why he mentioned he could’ve talked about the school. Hmm.. Nah that wouldn’t of helped. Umar went so crazy they never dropped the Part 2 smh. Its cool. We just got that I gotta win shit bad
@@voltear if he did make reference to the school Umar would have lied through the entire conversation because the school is an imaginary place that will never exist.
Ish is a good debater but when you go on someone's field, you can't beat them in a debate because they've probably already heard the arguments you'll be making and they already have all their talking points and their counters ready
You needed your co-host to help you find the words to articulate yourself at least twice. Now he "outperformed you."🙄 You still look hurt and confused😩🤣
@oladeebiazazi4538 both of you and any other black person that keeps posting comments like this. Y'all are living proof that there is no support amongst black people. Google is your friend
That's not dragging Umar....that's reinforcing Umar's position that black people don't have any power because we are not exposed to capital and we don't believe in building within our own community. Dude, just admitted he has a construction company. Ok, if you believe in his mission...get the school up and running. This is why I don't do black channels. Everything is funny and there's always a narrative of competition and going against each other. Lastly, I would say there's no one on u-tube that's going to body Umar. Period!
It's not just a construction project, he also needs years of salaries for teachers and reserves in advance. That's millions of dollars in addition to the construction project.
Here we go ppl another BS statement by the ish dude… he said he could have dragged Umar… that reminds me of the guy who gets beat up then when the guy who beat him up is not around you start to say what you COULD OF DID TO HIM! This is LAUGHABLE! NOBODY EGO IS GOING TO TAKE THE BACKSEAT TO ANOTHER’S EGO… who seen when Sean Garrett CHECKED ISH TEMPERATURE ON THE PODCAST IN FRONT OF THE WWW… who seen that? ISH SLOW DOWN KID HUMBLE YASELF bc SEAN GARRETT DID!
@@SortofFriendlySM The building has been there for quite some time and was previously a school. Now it is simply a vacant building that he uses as a cash collection magnet and his naive followers play right along.
@@Jophlo78 I didn’t know much about the school stuff, I saw a video of him touring the school n talking about it, so I assumed he was finally finishing the school since he was getting cooked for that, this was months ago. Crazy to think it’s still not finished. I know of him because of the division he creates but that’s not why we are here lol.
Ish, you died on that couch, cut it out 😂
You can say that again!!!!😂👏🏽
🤣🤣 lol he talking from the grave
@@Vizion512 Yall love umar he boost your self esteem lol makes you feel confident huh smh
😂😂😂😂
@@Vizion512 lol
naw he out data and factualized u "bruh" 🤡😂😂😂
I didn’t know ish was this corny 😂
Umar is a finessor
Facts
No he didn't
Have to agree with ish..
He ran from several points and questions
Nah Ish he cracked your muffin !
💯
And butter came out lol
What was the topic of discussion
Naw he didn’t.
@@user-yc1ug4fx2s😂😂😂🧈
Ish you took A BIG FAT L , it’s okay move on I still F with you but saying “ I could have “ just make you look silly
What did you watch? it was really a tie and Umar talked over him a lot.
Nah he's telling you these conscious people are actors 😂😂😂 grow up
Ish sounding like J. Cole with that "I could have".
Facts! He sounds like that dude who got punked at recess, waits for the bully to leave, then tells everybody much damage he could've done to the bully!😂
Where's the school though?
It’s okay to admit you aren’t the smartest man in the room when you aren’t. That’s what bugged Ish he wasn’t the most knowledgeable once Dr. Umar walked in
It’s like getting whooped by somebody and then saying that you in fact could’ve whooped them but you just let them win
Exactly
Drake trype ish
Everybody in here riding Dr Umar🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️, and don’t even realize his who thing is a ACT/ BRAND!
Ish got schooled y'all. He is in denial 😂😂
Nasty work ish sound like the mans that lost the fight talking bout I slipped
Ish Dr.Umar is a Clinical Psychologist. Stop thinking you top Dr.Umar...
"Psychologist" A nothing degree and title.
Ish was getting cooked by Umar, he gotta relax
😂😂😂😂😂facts...he on here coppin pleas
How though?
Exactly! Umar is an assassin when it comes to black talk. Wasn’t nobody on the Joe Budden Podcast gonna out talk him. Ish just mad bc he’s a part of the snow bunny crisis!
no he wasn’t
Bragging about not watching content is a weird flex
Not really
@@MichaelThomasFrazierYes really best you only get better by watching your mistakes
UMAR DOG WALKED ISH GOOFY AHH
💯
He did 💯💯🤣
Swimming in the milk 😂
😂😂😂 so guy let him embarrass you on your own platform. Ok
Where's the school though?
He couldn’t drag him about the school situation bc he just lied about his main point. Umar purchased the school in 2019, so he wasn’t building the school for 14 years. Now yes, he has been collecting money for 10+ years. But to Ish’s point, where does collecting money have to do with the actual construction? That alone shows that Ish never had an angle and he was gonna try some BS that he heard on social media.. and he know that would’ve really gotten bad for him bc he ain’t tryna do nearly as much as Umar for black people.. even with his 20 years of experience. Ish is a bozo with nothing real to offer besides gossiping with a bunch of men.
HE OUT DATA’D YOU OUT FACTUALIZED OUT PERFORMED YOU OUT …
You didnt fact check not one thing you're clearly biased
Maaaan! Cool out Ish! He cooked yo ass!
Stop the lies, Jermaine is a fraud.
yall so cap
No disrespect to Ish, but this is my problem with brothers not coming together. If you’ve been in the construction business for 20 + years why not collaborate with Umar to finish construction of the school?
Something isn’t adding up. If you have the means, and see the need why not just get it done????
Because he doesn't believe Umar is really building that school if you read between the lines.
14 years later...where's the school?
Dr. Umar would've run circles around, dude.
If Ish could have, he would have. He was totally outmatched and woefully unprepared. Trying to come at him on the school humble is some slimy b-made "ish."
And instead of accepting defeat and studying more, you talk trash behind his back.
We know what side of the Black Civil War you'd be on.
🤡
Umar would’ve bodied Ish.
Ish gotta stop it. What reason would Ish had to bring up the school situation when they never even had a discussion remotely close to that. The highlight of the conversation was Umar criticizing Ish for being with a white girl. On top of that, ish building houses has nothing to do with building a school. On top of that, Umar hasn’t been “building” a school for 14 years. He just bought 2 a few years ago. He got bought it off of “black” donation money. No grants and loans. So Ish would’ve lost that argument too.
That school is never coming
I agree completely.
Correct
Already built boo, just waiting for inspections and restrictions to clear to open doors, good1 tho my love @Mon-zw4ui
@@ljones269 haha yeah ok boo
Ish you got dog walked by Umar bunny hopper Lmaoooooooooo
If y’all was playing chess, checkmate, he outsmarted you he outperformed you he outdid everything. He’s just smarter than you ISH get over it.
Any black alive should have some level of respect for umar
When he builds that school and marry one of his baby mama’s, he’ll get my respect. 🤷🏽♂️
@@berlingray8058right, but everyone gone bypass the bullshit.
Yeah none
Da hell do marry his Bm have to do with anything? @@berlingray8058
Yes that’s right😂👏🏽
ISH YOU GOT BOOP BOPPED BY UMAR
Ish a clown. Umar would’ve smacked fire out him live on camera if ish played witem stop the cap
STOP CUTTING THE GUEST OFF!!!
Why don't Ish run the shit back with Dr. Umar if he's so confident and thinks he can debate him? No ad hominems.
NOBODY CAN REALLY DEBATE DR.UMAR, NOBODY ✊🏿
That means you don’t know much if you think he’s the one and only one. So many ppl are fighting the good fight out here. He’s very outspoken but nothing he’s telling the ppl is new. You could find out as much as he knows and do the same thing he does too, if you searched and researched the same information.
@manamal769 Tru, but he risk his lie every day, that's the different.
@@selftalkwithsal4229 Umar doesn’t pose any more of a threat than so many other black advocates for our ppl. If he did, they would’ve got rid of him already. He doesn’t walk around with bodyguards, and moves around freely. Someone of our own kind who’s a real threat would have to be protected. Just study our major historical leaders and you’ll understand what I’m saying.
Lord Jamar did.
@@tlinc80 he lost
Don’t do that Ish, I don’t like that he’s tryna make it seem like because Dr. Umar is personable and can be down to earth he’s performative and it’s all a game. And building houses and building schools ain’t the same.
C'mon Ish! You my guy but you had no chance in that conversation. I mean none! Primarily because Umar is a scholar and two because dat ish was true. There is no amount of homework you could have done to debate Umar and that is ok, because thats not what you do. And yall corny for not getting on yall platform a being able to tell Ish this, instead yall wanna re-enforce his defense like yall don't know who Umar is. I still rock with yall, just tighten up.
I saw the podcast, Ish is beyond delusional. He had every chance to speak his peace but was getting outsmarted at every turn
lol do u remember Dr Umar answering any of Ish’s questions directly?! Talking over someone doesn’t really mean anything to me.
Ish I watched the whole pod. You just kept repeating “Imma crack you” and didnt crack anything. You didnt spit any facts, data, figures, nothing 🤣🤣 I understand your construction point (maybe you held back on the school topic) but the pod was 5 hours long and yall talked about way more subjects 🤣🤣
I didn't watch it the podcast. I've been a licensed contractor for 27 years and I don't understand ish point in this video. Ish is talking like what Umar is doing is a cake walk.
Did Umar spit facts, because for a man of his erudition, and education, he sure does tell a lot of untruths.
Cap dr umar made you leave the room 😂
Joe said he went to the bathroom 😅
Umar has been unemployed for at least 10+ years. He ain't no school principal anywhere. He got no psychologist office anywhere. He lives off donations and speaking engagements.He has a few children out of wedlock he is not even allowed to see according to him. He has no black family and has not delivered a school after 15 years of collecting money ( he started collecting in 2009). He also never attended an HBCU. He just points his finger and condemns people left and right for the same shit he is doing. I think anybody who does a bit of research on Umar can cook him but people don't want to hold him accountable because they like his rhetoric. Anyways If he was really interested in educating black boys he would've been teaching in a room or under a tree or doing an afterschool program somewhere. You don't need to build a school to teach. He is 100% smoke and mirrors.
Facts.
Google is your friend.
This is an extremely dumb comment.
@@FishMan_001 Not really. Everything dude said is accurate. If you know what school he tenured as principal &/or what hospital/practice employed him as a psychologist please share with the class.
ISH didn't say anything about Umar stealing money because then he'd have to talk about Joe stealing Rory/Mal's money
How did Joe still money from his employees?
What money was stolen?
Ish is a clown. He smoked his ahh. Now he trying to downplay Umar.
Didn't Ish, get upset and walk out of the interview before it was over???? Dr.Umar defeated Ish on every level if Ish did the best he could under the circumstances there is no shame in his @ss whippin.
Dr Umar cooked his muffins idk what Ish is talking about
Dr Umar ate him up for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Ish begged Joe NOT TO DROP THE VIDEO 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ish no you couldn’t 😂dude one of those I’m always the smartest in the room cats who finally finds his match then refuse to take the L. This is classic lightskin energy
Dr.Umar always bring facts. What was not factual?
Yes, he did. He outperformed you and out fact you. If he tore you apart, stop lying to yourself let your ego go.
Nah Ish.. Ish is my guy… He knew Dr Umar was coming to the pod, he should’ve been prepared. Dr Umar cooked ish muffins. Point blank period..
Ish was hella emotional thatshit was awkward to see. Grown ass man wanna have a grown ass discussion but cant.
Some dudes are just great at arguing because they can articulate words. This dude never drags anybody. Just mad yelling.
Does ish know that you can be hood and pro black ?????? lol I swear he’s slow af. Him coming in saying it’s Philly in the house doesn’t mean anything
Whether he was from Philly, ATL, Miami, LA,Detroit,CHI etc he spoke on how he felt.
No way he was dragging Umar. You ain’t smart enough
Ish is a 🤡. He got dog walked by Umar 🤣
This is why you never D eat/fanboy someone just because they have a name. When will people learn Social Media is fake? Stop crashing out over characters
If you could’ve you would’ve 💯
True, I believe if Umar could've built that school, he would've by now.
@@stoplyingabout that too! We gotta start being honest about this
Umar was like oh you mad cuz I'm styling on you 😂😎
….drag Dr. Umar? You would have gotten your skin peeled off😅
Ish got to take that L😂😂😂 he cooked
Ok homie, whatever you say. If that’s the case, why not go for round 2?
Where is Dr. Umar's school?
It wasn’t a debate it was just conversation pieces
Mennn this dude already sound defeated
Cracked that muffin in the worst way fr king
Embrace the L like a body pillow in jail bro. Just sleep tight
Tap dancin' clowns.................!!!!! NO integrity what so EVA.................smh
THANK YOU! I am so disappoint in the host for allowing this and then gassing ish up! Ish was not fucking with Dr. Umar EVEAH!
Brutha can’t be serious 😂 c’mon ish we grown dawg
ISH CANT BE SERIOUS.
🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
Dr Umar Johnson is just good at debates.He is eloquent and seems to know his shit
the popularity of Dr. Umar is another symptom of the lack of self-knowledge and ability for progression within the community
Why is the first letter of Ish name lower case 😭😭
He actually hilarious got thinking he could’ve dragged Umar lol. He was hurt the whole episode cuz Umar said he dating a snow bunny
thats why he mentioned he could’ve talked about the school. Hmm.. Nah that wouldn’t of helped.
Umar went so crazy they never dropped the Part 2 smh. Its cool. We just got that I gotta win shit bad
BUNNY HOPPER
@@voltear if he did make reference to the school Umar would have lied through the entire conversation because the school is an imaginary place that will never exist.
@@voltearThe video still isn't on RUclips right?
Ish is wildin
Ish is a good debater but when you go on someone's field, you can't beat them in a debate because they've probably already heard the arguments you'll be making and they already have all their talking points and their counters ready
Shoulda, coulda, woulda they said🫠
Ish you gotta relax ( Nore) voice umar cracked ya muffin not once did he have to tell you he’s well read like how you felt the need to tell him
You needed your co-host to help you find the words to articulate yourself at least twice. Now he "outperformed you."🙄 You still look hurt and confused😩🤣
In what world did ish think he won the debate 😂
We have to many black males who do not speak from a solution oreintated foundation. That's why we talk in circles
Here we go
How can you drag a man doing something no youtuber is doing!!!
That school aint never opening .
Yup it would have opened by now if it was
Google is your friend
@@christopherroberts8530 Who are you responding to?
@oladeebiazazi4538 both of you and any other black person that keeps posting comments like this. Y'all are living proof that there is no support amongst black people. Google is your friend
The school been open
Nah ish you got cooked on that couch.
Ish said he don't wanna drag Dr. Umar. But then mentions he's been building a school for 14 years. You just dragged him Ish😂😂😂😂
But it’s different if he does it on viral platform.
Less ears
That's not dragging Umar....that's reinforcing Umar's position that black people don't have any power because we are not exposed to capital and we don't believe in building within our own community. Dude, just admitted he has a construction company. Ok, if you believe in his mission...get the school up and running. This is why I don't do black channels. Everything is funny and there's always a narrative of competition and going against each other. Lastly, I would say there's no one on u-tube that's going to body Umar. Period!
Umar will educate him, shame on him that all he has to his fame is how he thinks he can drag anybody. To say that shows his metalty
That’s why it’s not on RUclips umar smoked you
It's on patreon
I'm not familiar with any of this. What was this? A debate? Umar was just a guest with Ish somewhere and a "debate" broke out? What was it?
@@BKEFilmsUS yeah and umar smoked ish
@@rexmilli ok
He could have NOT gone in on Dr Umar
Ish got smoked like some salmon on that episode. He gotta relax 😂
He wasn’t acting out of character off camera.
Ish is a sell out that doesn’t of his black daughter.
Ish pls!!! You had no facts or data just feelings
I rock with Ish but he got his muffin cracked 😂
Where can I watch the entire episode of Ish and Umar going at it about the topic of white women?
Google it
@@FishMan_001 google doesn’t show it. its actually patreon and you have to pay for it.
Dr Umar had him looking like he was about to burst into tears. He absolutely cooked him up 😂
Ish doesn’t usually do nasty stuff. This is naaaasty
It's not just a construction project, he also needs years of salaries for teachers and reserves in advance. That's millions of dollars in addition to the construction project.
The school is a fake project and it is simply a means for this con to collect money from people and never deliver any tangible results in return.
😂😂😂😂 yeah right ish
Here we go ppl another BS statement by the ish dude… he said he could have dragged Umar… that reminds me of the guy who gets beat up then when the guy who beat him up is not around you start to say what you COULD OF DID TO HIM! This is LAUGHABLE! NOBODY EGO IS GOING TO TAKE THE BACKSEAT TO ANOTHER’S EGO… who seen when Sean Garrett CHECKED ISH TEMPERATURE ON THE PODCAST IN FRONT OF THE WWW… who seen that? ISH SLOW DOWN KID HUMBLE YASELF bc SEAN GARRETT DID!
Only a certain type of person thinks Umar is some type of echelon figure lol. Same people who look up to CTG.
He’s a con artist and I don’t understand why all of these people idolize him.
You cut him some slack? Nah duke
You in the construction business help him with the school . Especially if you believe in the cause . Let’s link these brothers back up
He clearly doesn’t want help with a school that he never intended to build, his only objective is collecting money to live off of.
@@Jophlo78I thought his school was built already? Like finished recently. Damn
@@SortofFriendlySM The building has been there for quite some time and was previously a school.
Now it is simply a vacant building that he uses as a cash collection magnet
and his naive followers play right along.
@@Jophlo78 I didn’t know much about the school stuff, I saw a video of him touring the school n talking about it, so I assumed he was finally finishing the school since he was getting cooked for that, this was months ago. Crazy to think it’s still not finished. I know of him because of the division he creates but that’s not why we are here lol.
This exactly why yall channel gonna remain stagnant 😅
📠🐝
THAT’S PEACE!
I beg your pardon????
Umar was dodging questions and just calling him names
Umar a real racist low key 😂