100 % total dead stick landing
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2012
- at 4000' i turned off the engine and did a 100% total dead stick landing at mexico farms airfield, the 2 nd. oldest airfield in the united states which is a grass field and still in operation by the same family. i practice these so when it happens for real i am ready.
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Well done Sir! My Flight instructor gave me the advise: "Perform every 2nd time a spot landing, to get a feeling how it feels to do a landing without power and to calculate the glide to the threshold. An altitude reserve is always recommended and better than less. At final you can slip to reduce to much altitude reserve. Try it regularly and be prepared in the case of the case!"
"That's not flying. That's falling with style."
You saved almost a gallon of gas !
Whole new meaning nowadays
As a sailplane pilot, all my landings are "Dead Stick" and there's no go arounds!
Very nice demo! used to practice those also, but I never really liked to do it (because my airport by the ocean had crosswinds a good part of the time)! But it's good to know you can glide down and land safely!
Guys, can we just agree that no matter what a guy enjoys flying. Practice and training are what makes us safer and better. Geez, always with the ego’s.
The sad thing is, most of the critics could not land their aircraft 100% dead stick. I can not, so I sit back and admire a job well done.
@@indridcold8433 There seem to be a lot of narcissists going out of their way to say something -ve to fluff themselves up in their own minds
@@yarpos The simulators they employ are likely nothing more than a personal computer programme. They have likely never even seen an actual simulator.
I don't think ego is a factor. It's that practicing a crash landing is absurd. You wouldn't go out and practice crashing your car into a tree. If you need to do something like this, you probsbly shouldn't be using that vehicle or form of transportation.
@@Gkitchens1 It's more like practicing parking, but if you fail to park you die.
Experienced landing. Bravo. Each training increases the likelihood of success when a real failure occurs and no airport is in sight.
Very, very well done! Congrats...Great drill. Thanx.
You had me worried there for a second- until i realised the airstrip was 500' above datum! Good landing.
Being able to choose where and when makes it a lot easier! I did the same experiment in a Piper Saratoga over 30 years ago. cut power over Purdue at 15,500 ft, with a stiff tailwind, and pulled the prop control all the way back. Glided the 44 miles to Kokomo and had to circle down to land. Being a rental, all that gliding time was free!
cool I'm getting ready to practice this as well in my MiniMax,,, great video
Nice job! Personally I prefer to go a little higher in my club's glider and use spoilers (or you can use a slip) to make small adjustments but the important thing here is that the approach was well stabilized and the airspeed was kept just right. Stretching a glide has killed a lot of pilots, but with holding on a good aim point that was not an issue. Very professionally done.
The thing about engine outs is you dont get to choose when they happen, so practicing at lower altitudes is the right thing to do.
Excellent training
Well done
Way to go m'am, very good to practice these approaches
Thanks for posting.
Glider pilots do exactly that - every flight - albeit with a favorable glide angle.
But he isn't flying a glider, he flying a plane with no trust, there alot of different
Gliders have a glide factor of 40:1 or even more while this plane has something below 10:1. This means that, without thrust, you are going to hit the ground at least four times harder with this. It's absolutely not comparable.
apples and oranges, this person is practicing for the unexpected not repeatedly doing the usual
40:1, I wish! Yes there are hot a/c out there at +40:1 but never got a chance to fly them. Worst glider I flew for L/D was 25:1. It was an old, wood and fabric, flying armchair.
Any ways I digress.
No matter what you fly, A380 or ASH20, it’s all about managing potential energy (height) and kinetic energy (air speed). The more you practice, the better the outcome.
DB Thats-Me how many A380 glide approaches have you done ?😉
Great job, mate!!
I never do a standard landing pattern when practicing engine out operation. You fly directly towards the landing spot with the hope of having ample altitude when you arrive. Then you circle to land.
This is a bold maneuver . And In the words of John and Martha king. There are old pilots and Bold pilots but no old bold pilots.
I can agree with you that this is pretty dangerous if done improperly.
However, it looks like this guy has been practicing this exact maneuver, with this exact bird, at the same field for a while. I'm sure he started off easy and worked his way slowly into a more complex pattern. He absolutely nailed this, so something tells me he's pretty much become one with the plane and that he's fully aware and hyper-alert to what the plane is doing and how it's reacting. Sure this is on the edge, but when it counts he won't be caught unprepared in the worst situations. Most pilots that never practiced with risk don't know how to really feel the airplane, they just read their gauges and do what the book says.
And don't get me wrong, the books are great. I'm just saying that practice and personal experience is infinitely more useful than something that you were taught.
Why practice a way that you won't do it in the real world ? Exactly, get to the chosen spot and circle to land. This insures you make your chosen landing location.
@@danblumel because doing this makes the standard procedure a breeze.
Wow, I can only do a 94% partial dead stick landing.
Rob Johnson best comment I’ve read made my day.
I give my stick CPR.
I'm 53 years old. I'm 100% dead stick
I'm 48 and I'm dealing with carb ice. Still runs a little bit but rough.
I'm 53 and I need a few pumps, then I'm good to go.
Outstanding job!
Is that a fixed-pitch prop that can't be feathered? If so, how come it doesn't rotate in the wind?
Yep, did that on my training. A bit scary to see that big propeller still, but no big deal really.
When my friend and me used to go up and fly we used to practice this manure. You were always looking for a place to land in case something would happen. Another pilots not paying attention. We almost got killed one day a guy in a twin doing a barrel roll coming down from 10,000 ft right in front of us almost killed us. But we both yelled at the same time May the maneuver.
Nicely done.
What a nice landing...
Congratulations!...
:-)
From Brussels, with Love...
That is technically a crash, not really a landing.
Good job ...stay prepared !
A pilot must know how to glide. Well done.
That's an IVO prop I see? I used to have one as well on my plane.
Tidy, I've only done this on idle.
Even an engine on idle is spinning the fan, good finish
Hello nice video thanks for posting looking to view you next well done
Wow,, just made those trees, good one.
I'm not a genius but that thing in front the plane supposed to be turning I think
High elevatnion level, 500 feets as I can see on cockpit ? What is this plane model please ? .... Very well done gliding I do similar but engine on with low (neutral) revs.
Is it legal to practice this? The safety margin seems very low. It could be with the proper certs, but I am not familiar.
Excelente piloto, le felicito, todo el tiempo estuvo calmando y busco la zona adecuada mil gracias por compartir tan interesante video
Nice landing.
Well done!
Good job but keep in mind practicing like this will super cool the engine and you will more likely be replacing cylinders more frequently. But then again, its your purse, not mine.
Doesn't it depend on the air temp? It's not like he's diving down, he's gliding so as he drops in altitude, the temp will go up.
@@MJLeger-yj1ww not really it depends on airflow and what the engine was doing before shot down. What MJ says is a factor with piston skydiving aircraft, where they work hard to altitude and then have to descend quickly. The pilots have to manage engine temp .
@@yarpos Sound like a rotax water cooled engine so not so critical
Awesome job
About as good as it gets!
Were you at "best glide"? Seemed like you dropped pretty quickly altho you obviously hit your mark perfectly. In a real power failure, you would be trimmed up for best glide. I would also keep a little extra energy in my pocket to jump over any wires or fences I would see at the last second! Great job.
They know their plane! Nice.
I had a 85hp J3 I did this with dozens of times. So pick your spot. Watch the spot move in your window. When it moves up turn. When it goes down extend your leg. Works every time. I had 13 forced landing in 17000 hrs and never had damage once. Most were in a 1340 Agcat.
I was taught to do dead stick landings from the start. Taildraggger - Citabria- over wine country. Anytime I was to too low, too far to glide to the runway my CFI cut my power, 'what are you going to do now?'. I learned to cut power on downwind and mostly glide in, no flaps on that plane, slip to increase drag, descend w/out gaining speed, slow forward speed. Just slight input of power if needed.
Always told, "never give up the runway". If you do not know what your aircraft can do with no power, you are not a complete pilot. I soloed August 1 in gliders & August 18 in single engine, doing training in both simultaneously. And yet, I'm still a 98% dead stick landing pilot. We think I may have hit 99% once, we're checking the black box flight data recorders on the Citabria.
Been many years since pilot-in-command, but I always liked to come in for a landing as high as possible, & side-slip down to the runway...obviously have to watch for lower aircraft. I would have felt very foolish to do a 400' final, have engine out, crash short of runway.
Yep, cut power on downwind.I made this a habit too! A very good practice. An engine failure happened to me on floats over the only lake around. It was a very small lake with no room for error. Because of all the previous power off landings, it was uneventful.
A perfect landing....
Very good. . You did it just right.
Good work I used to practice idle glide approach and it came in handy when I lost power at 200’ on climb slow and heavy in my C150. Lived to fly another day, Keep the skills fresh & live
landed well?? I had to climb at 200 fpm on mine at 200' on take off. climbed to 300 agl and turned it back to the runway. no damages..
I think we have a former glider pilot. Good work. I'm one myself and I can imagine how much more diffocult ot would be to land a rock. In particalular one with the wires all cut off.
Excellent
I got asked during tailwheel endorsement if I had some time in them I didn’t record. Nope, all gliders. He did an engine out on downwind and I cut base short at the numbers. The Schweitzer 2-33 we flew were forgiving but bricks!
i always try to fly a fast and tight approach and final for this reason. excellent disperse on short final
This is legendary
Excellent pilot
closet36, it should be taught to all pilot license candidates. Or glider training.
nemo227 It is... Taught to pilots. Why the fuck would an engine out landing be taught to a glider pilot?
Great pilot.
Nice job. What model plane are you flying? BTW, if you really want to experience a deadstick landing, cut the power in an unfamiliar airspace. Not suggesting you do that. I certainly would not. You literally have to find your landing spot the moment the engine stops. As the altitude runs out I wouldn't want to have to be looking around at 1000ft for a place to land. The ground is coming up too fast.
...I wanna fly a sailplane one day, but for now, I just shut the engine off on my puddle hopper...and pretend it's a really crummy glider.
Are you flying a Mini-Max? That looks a lot like the cockpit of my 1650 Eros!
Good job
Nice Job
saves gas
2nd oldest airfield? Where is the oldest airfield, Kitty Hawk NC?
I think the oldest is Pearson field KVUO north of Portland, Oregon.
@@skyhawkheavy7524 I used to fly out of Pearson. It's the oldest, continuously used, airfield. A fun one too!
@@skyhawkheavy7524 Oldest is College Park Maryland, Wright Bros.
Excellent...
Pretty easy on a field u know well. Very different in a real emergency. short field, sloping, big trees both ends, fences and power lines u can't see or a road with unknown traffic. But failure on takeoff is far worse.
For a moment I thought he was going for the highway...simple traffic pattern into home field
I like how the engine finally started after he landed safely. Like ..”I got your back bro”
As a CFI wannabe I would give you generally high marks but would have expected you to jettison the coppered spindle on the rotary gangle-plate which would have helped you with side shimmy, yaw and metal fatigue. But good work!
Glide ratio, hieghth ,speed distance.10-4
In a Zenith 601, you have to practice w/o a wing.
That prop looks like a bunch of just sharpened lawnmower blades welded together!
Almost looks like lawn mower blades on the prop...
It is lawnmower blades. Very common that's why a lot of field crop dusters also get paid as bushhogs
that is nice dead stick landing
Dudes nail polish was perfect.
Doing something like that on purpose is not my idea of a good time. I would have shit a brick!
Good work. I constantly take tourists for joy flights and most are from india. Can I make a tip? If you ever have an lndiαи passenger and you have an engine failure always kick open the door and force them to jump or push them out. The amount of weight you will save will make all the difference.
Take about 40 hours in gliders and it will teach you to be looking for a spot to land at all times , I did about 80 hours ,excellent for private pilots , big eye opener ,
WOW - Thats so Awsome Closet36....Nice landing buddy.....Cool plane....what kind is it....??
Thanks
Steve - Columbus, Ohio USA
I've never understood why people call it a 'dead stick' landing. The stick and flight controls still work perfectly well - it's the engine that's dead.
I've been thinking the same as I read through the comments. A truly dead stick - ie no response to the controls, would be XXX times more scary.
Bravo !!!
正常なエンジンを訓練として停止させてもすぐに再起動するものです。全く驚くに値しない動画ですね。
And later his story started with, "You're not going to believe this Sh*t......"
So basically you've taken up gliding?
is it possible to land on carrier ship flying a p40 warhawk dead stick
ask about 500 pilots that done dead stick carrier landings. it was more common than you think
Muito legal gostei 😃
I've never flown with the AC off. I'm sure if my AC ever died unexpectedly, I'd start sweating pretty quick.
that was close
There is plenty of time, heigth, space to shoot a Forced Landing OFF and walk away HERE !!. All good practice. There are two people in the air. "Those that have sufferd an engine failure and those that are about. retired CPL.
Just like a no-spoiler landing in a Schweizer 2-33 ;)
...and if you get it wrong in practice, what happens then?
when you realize you don't have the runway made; you quickly restart the engine.Otherwise ... indeed.
Besides "getting it wrong", other things can go wrong as well. Like, what happens when you suddenly hit a downdraft on short final just as you're crossing over those trees? Probably no time to restart the engine in that case.
I practice engine outs probably more often than most pilots, but I always do it with the engine running at idle. Energy management is energy management. In my opinion, there's no reason to shut the engine off completely when idle will produce virtually the same result. That's just my opinion.
I will say, however, that this pilot managed energy well.
turn the engine back on and try again. That's the beauty of doing it with a good engine.
As a model airplane pilot I have also done plenty of dead stick landings. One thing that is definitely different on a real dead stick landing is that you have a much steeper minimum glide angle / a significantly shorter glide if the engine is completely stopped. So practicing at idle is definitely not the same.
True, the glide angle between shut off and idle would be immensely different with a model airplane, because the wing loading is an order of magnitude different than a full-size airplane, as is the power-to-weight ratio. The glide ratio in a typical single-engine plane is only negligibly different between idle and shut off.
I do the same thing in my SR-71.
"How to lose your license" should be the title!
HELLZ YEAH!!!!!!!
With air conditioning, the gap in the canopy.
It was obvious he was almost in key position (on downwind with a slight turn to base), and even crossed the threshold (if one exists on a grass runway) a little high and fast-- he knows the strip and the airplane. Not a good idea to kill a good engine though... its enough to practice this maneuver at idle.
That's just like practicing bleeding! Way to keep your speed up.
What's with the red thumbnail?
You keep shock cooling that engine like that, and you WILL have a real engine failure. No doubt.
It is a water cooled Rotax....not an issue
Very cool!
Is it just me or was it quieter when the engine was running
not bad, not bad, but can you do a blindfold deadstick, hmm?
Stick seemed to be working fine to me.
Sail plane pilots have been doing this for 100 years...no option for a go-around...powered flight guy does it and he's reckless, hmm? Good energy management is a crucial skill to understand and master, that includes with prop continuing to turn or with the prop stopped (different drag qualities). The one comment that piqued my interest is the shock cooling of the engine during engine OFF descent, we have all been warned about maintain some power to avoid it, wonder what the real life penalty is in this repeated configuration? Good job, nice air work, hope you never have to use that skill, but think the outcome would be positive if you did.
That was great.
Chris Kibb Exactly, hmmm? Powered aircraft are heavier, don't glide as well, and carry much more energy coming in. Two totally different things... sail plane pilots have not been "doing this" - killing the engine on powered aircraft for 100 years. They've been flying sail planes.
Oh Jesus Christ...here we go, Chris Kibb to save us all from ourselves. There is a difference between highlighting the need to understand energy management and the difference in drag between a stopped and rotating prop...and promoting this video technique as training. I made NO, ZERO recommendation about using this as a method of training...everything beyond that is inference on your part. If this guy want to shutdown his engine and dead stick his ACFT, it's HIS prerogative (as long as no other life or property is placed at risk)...apparently you object to that?
So with that said, show me your stats on the number of intentionally shutdown engines, where ACFT were deliberately set down in an "unprepared field"...I'd like to be able to quantify the amount of damage you cite. Guys like you crack me up, you see something like this and your thong rides up and you get all self-righteous, quick to correct the aviation wrongs in the world.
So you fancy yourself as a CFI? You first...give me the "unprepared field" stats on damage incurred by powered ACFT intentionally performing dead stick landings, I mean YOU made the claim it was reckless and resulted in untold damage? I guess all those back country cowboys are wrong too...I mean, backside of the power curve...hanging it on the prop...reckless I tell you!!!!...apparently performing a power off/engine shutdown (without endangering other persons or property) landing has your panties in a bunch?
Still don't get it do you? With your train of thinking (Thomas the Tank engine) upset recovery training and unusual attitude recovery should be banded as reckless also? I mean just because they give you a parachute doesn't make is safe...I'm not a licensed skydiver, sounds reckless to me? Produce your "mountains of data" SPECIFICALLY on the scenario witnessed in the subject video then get back to me...or go get your CFI and learn a little yourself.
That’s also called a power-off 180, except this is an engine-off 180