Paragliding incident Sweden Härekeberga 20131012
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2016
- Paragliding incident Sweden Härekeberga 2013- 10-12
- We do not use the weak link.
- Swedish Accident Investigation Authoritys report: www.havkom.se/en/investigation...
"An aircraft of the model SAAB MFI 15 took off from Sundbro, Uppsala, for a
VFR flight to Johannisberg, Västerås. Shortly thereafter began winching of a
paraglider from Härkeberga, located along the aircraft's route.
At the final stage of the winching, at about 350 meters altitude, the paraglider
pilot saw an airplane coming straight at him at a slightly lower altitude. The
aircraft passed below the paraglider a few seconds later without colliding. The
height difference was estimated by the paraglider pilot to about 50 feet and the
distance to the line was 1 to 3 meters.
The pilot of the aircraft never perceived the event. The map data that the pilot
used - and which is the most widely used in general aviation - had no special
marking of the paragliding activities at Härkeberga. Neither the paraglider nor
the aircraft flew at altitudes implying contact with controlled airspace..."
Swedish newspapers:
www.expressen.se/nyheter/olive...
www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/art...
www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/upp...
www.unt.se/nyheter/enkoping/pl...
www.nyteknik.se/teknikrevyn/d...
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Why I look up and down all the time.
In order to keep the paraglider 90 degrees to the tow machine, you have to watch all the time against the paraglider and then against the towing machine. Especially when you are a beginner, as I was then, and if there is a sidewind. If you do not, there is a risk of getting lockout and dying. In my other videos, I usually cut off the head movements but in this video it was important not to cut out a few details in order to see the entire process.
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Optical illusion. It looks like the aircraft is only inches away from the line but in reality it was probably a foot.
1:36 optical illusion my ass!
Good grief!
Like Zoinks!
Code Three thats the joke brick
I Knoooow rite
The plane is like: if he looks up ONE MORE TIME
In the UK powered winch for gliders and paragliders are registered and NOTAM'd (notice to airman). In the UK it is law to check NOTAMs before you fly (and it's drilled into you throughout training) Therefore in the UK this would be entirely the fixed wing pilot's fault and probably result in a meeting with the CAA.
Also, if the plane had hit the winch rope it would more than likely have destroyed the wing and killed everyone in the aircraft.
Nice to see you here. Hold Tight!
On the other hand if you had an ignition system failure and there was a nice big flat field what would you do? My friend had that on takeoff from Bankstown heading to Sydney. Choice, land in houses and factories or just put it down on the grass crossing 3 active runways with 8 aircraft in the circuit with two on finals. He did and he lives.
Not to mention the Paraglider pilot.
@@stevehyduke3015 Nope, The weak link would have snapped and he would be fine. But the rope might have wrapped around the wing of the plane and brought it down if the tow operator wasn't quick enough to use the emergency cut.
@@garrykennedy5484 I might be as worried about it being tangled up in the prop or propshaft. And I would worry about the well being of the Paraglider pilot anyway, those guys die often.
Buddy should’ve pulled the release and separated the line as soon as he saw the plane approaching him at that angle
I'm a pilot and I could not pick out the traffic with enough time to make that decision and follow through. I would prefer a taught tow line for all involved in this case.
@@kingofcastlechaos exactly. Less margin of error.
What if he released the line and caused the plane to crash below him killing his by standing family only for him to lane safely a single man again. Lol
Yeah it seems like if he had dropped the line it might have fallen into the path of the plane.. probably a good job he didn’t detach
I would think if the plane caught the line the weak link would snap, so safer to sit tight and not risk the line falling into the plane 😬
It’s known as Fly by Wire. 👌
haha
Hahah Made my day 😂😂😂
death by wire
XDD
No... just no
Imagine the plane hit the rope and pull him to destination. The dual landing for both would have been historical.
Yep...I’ll take “shit you’ll never see me do” for 1,000 Alex...
"Hey Olaf....grab my spare underwear from my car please."
gud comment
It looked like it was about to crash! My heart stopped for a second
Oh hello there
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I watch your videos
this youtube-world is small. lol
Look look tha arri guy
1:33 you're welcome 😊
Steven Stammler is a true hero
Not all hero's wear capes
just the comment I was looking for!!!
SCARY AF.
It's 1:36
That would have been an interesting physics experiment if the plane was one meter over. Glad you are safe! 😯
that's scary as fuck
indeed...
That “ooofff!!” sound the pilot makes just as the plane passes within inches of his tow line is him soiling his pants.
:)
I don't know...I mean, he's the one with the parachute...
My word! That is about as close as you can get! wow.
I find it interesting that the accident report states no serious consequences would have resulted if the plane had struck the line. I used to tow behind cars on a hang glider, and the line we used was several thousand-pound test line with a weak link.
I can only imagine that the paraglider line is similar, but as stated, no weak link. If the plane had struck the line, the line's not going to just snap -- so how does that lead to no serious consequences? The paraglider's going to get yanked REAL hard until it locks out, then something else is going to have to give -- the ATV? The plane's wing? By the time you get to several thousand pounds on the line, the paraglider will certainly have failed in some way. All around, a very bad day.
The line was 2.5 mm Dyneema
@@OliverTorlo Damn, that's thin! Still, 600kg test.
Maybe put the go pro on a chest mount instead of a head mount....
Nope. The angles are head mounted.
The whole looking up and down part was extremely annoying.
Alexander Grosset. He's checking his wing and upper airspace to which he assending into. Part of flying on tow my friend.
It's very critical task to check the wing alignment all the time while towing. Otherwise you may ended lockout situation and well.. You may dive at highspeed to the ground..
Yes, but remember its needed for safe flying. He's not there to make a movie for us.
I understand it's a necessity to do such thing but it is really annoying to watch.
@@SammYLightfooD If he is wearing a Gopro he is looking to get footage to show. If such comment was towards the fact that it is necessary to do the check to make sure his equipment was proper I understand that but there needs to be a better way to make video
Thanks for uploading!😇
Paragliding schools must also activate their training area in advance. I experienced something similar as an instructor. The pilot of the powder plane was only curious, and although he was not dangerous, a complaint was filed. The kite effect at high altitude from the wrong angle to the wind and the towing vehicle (you have to intuitively derive that angle) does not have to be fatal, because you can disconnect in an emergency and use a backup round parachute, depending on the situation. The kite effect is dangerous at low altitudes, when after the "edge" of the parachute you immediately fall to the ground ... it's an old video, so at the moment you probably have experience.
If he had released that plane most likely would have gotten into the cable. Scary
I was thinking the same...loose cable drifting down, fouling the prop at low altitude.
But it would have been fun to watch. What a cool vid that would have been!
Conclusion of the report: "Recommendations: None".
It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
After the incident, we have had the opportunity in Sweden to mark all our winch fields on aircraft maps.
Celebrity death match?
That moment when an NPC spawns at a questionable location.
I really appreciate your explanation in the description. Thanks. So how would you avoid this in future?
Not go up there.
Perhaps you should consider the use of a weak link it's there for a reason
"The height difference was estimated by the paraglider pilot to about 50 feet and the distance to the line was 1 to 3 meters. "
It's arse about face. . . Small distances feet are better ( 6 ' tall ) ... Long distance meters is better ( 100m sprint ) ....
@@cuckingfunt9353 The report say "The height difference was estimated by the paraglider pilot to about 50 meters and the distance to the line was 1 to 3 meters. " I have no idea why it's translated to feet in the video description.
hights in aviation: feet!
I'd be investing in an airman's radio tonight! What frequency is unicom in Sweden?
Sorry new to this.
How was the paraglider taken up in the air?
There goes a perfect pair of
Underwear
chris chabra ... he color coded his shorts . Yellow in the front. Brown in the back .
that's the least funny dad joke i've ever heard.
My dump valve would have been working overtime...😂
How do you know they were perfect?
nice of him to bring the clangers along :)
lmao
Lol
"Excuse me, Mr. Pilot...
would you mind winding my line up with your propellor? I am finished using it."
The description says they don't use the weak link.
Question is:
Was airplane in prohibited airspace (due to paragliding activity) or, were people rope paragliding without proper authorization.
Neither. Both were in Class G airspace & thus both responsible for collision avoidance.
It may not have been controlled airspace, but he still flew right over another airport at low altitude, inviting a potential conflict with other air traffic around it. Poor form at the very least.
I do not understand why a paragliding site was not marked on the map that the pilot used (as I read in the description).
What that plane did is essentially the real world equivalent of "hehehe lol"
Wow. Just how long IS that tether?
What is the beeping thing?
Wow! That was crazy close! What do you think the plane's altitude was? Glad you made it out of that one! 😃👍
According to the report, the para glider was at about 350m and estimated the plane to pass 50m below him.
I'm here trying to watch the whole thing but every time they look up its like a cd skipping and I just can't take it.
I'm glad it was just bothering me. 😬😬😬
@@irrelavant13 I see its a common thing in paragliding videos so obviously its part of being safe but for viewing purposes its really difficult.
It is for current glide info. Tone and frequency change as glide does.
Why is the camera keep looking up 10 times in the beginning 🤬
Hi! Is it possible to contact you regarding this video? (i.e. via email) I would love to discuss a permission to use your video if this is possible. Greetings!
Congrats! This is the moment when you realize that you have just got a second life.
Dude, someone needs to shock my heart back into rhythm.
So, for most of the video we see the sky. Where id the incident?
Whats that thing making the noise?
In the UK we place the double cross sign on the ground which lets aircraft know there are wires in the air . Is this not common practice everywhere ?
Sorry, no, I'm a sailplane pilot from Germany and I've never heard about this practice
We do use yellow flashing lights tho, that are active as long as a winch cable is in the air. They are placed on both sides of the motor plane runway and are visible from both the air and from the place motor planes do their last check before takeoff / lineup position
@@CorruptoGrande it’s about 10 meters long and very visible from the air and I have seen a light aircraft approaching then suddenly deviate around us abs then back onto his original heading . He even waggled his winged to acknowledge us
Good to know ;) Safe flights mate :)
@@Gixer750pilot Whats this wing waggling business? Are they not stuck on to the hut on the aero plane?
Since this incident, all paragliders have held the line in their teeth for safety.
Since this incident, all paragliders have lost their teeth
@@crashtestdummy87 now when the crash they call them “gum drops” 😂
How high was that winch launch??? Only ever winched to 1500ft in a glider before.
Two questions: 1-Where is this cable hooked at? 2- Why does he keep looking up?
Guy in the plane was running drugs.
Ronald Myers ..... and where do you think he was going with said drugs not that I would look him up or anything.
Ronald Myers ........... kinda looked like Barry Seal .
dammit larry, i wish youtube had emote reactions like FB, i about pissed myself i laughed so hard at the barry seal comment
Ronald Myers) no witnesses
Looked like the guy in the plane was cleaning his shorts.
Só de ver já treme as pernas o sangue congela, mais é muito lindo.
Tremi na base. 😱😱😱😱😱😱
Ainda bem que não tinha cerol 🤭
Is there a quick release on the tow line?
Yes, and there is also a breakable link on the line, so that too much force will break the line
Why you didn't cut off, when saw aircraft arriving ??
If that guy didn’t shit his pants, he is officially the chillest dude on the planet.
That happened so fast that I doubt you would have time to have a shit.
I really like the decision of the paraglider pilot not to let go of the tow line until the plane passes
Know what you mean. But I'm unsure whether he stood a chance to do that quickly enough. Reaction time-wise, I mean. That happened so fast.
I don’t think there was any time to react. It looked like one of those OMG moments where you’re just frozen. At least I would have been.
I guess a taut line is easier to be severed by the plane than a lose, falling wire. Just an opinion.
@@dooboodot You’re right. However I don’t think the line would have severed if it were taut.
The impact would have either collapsed the paraglider wing or ripped hip from his harness and both would end in free fall and subsequent death.
Another scenario is the line would reel him into the airplane prop and blend him into pieces
Yes! Yes, aviation and air sports are very fast
The plane flies down wind let's assume it was flying at 80 Knots plus 20 from the paraglider would give you 100 knots +160 Km/h EXTREMLY low
How long was that tow rope?
What's the line attached to? I've never seen this form of take-off method.
onde está a matricula da aeronave? deveria ter nas asas. Faltou a sombra do avião tambem
'Lottery Ticket' moment 🎉
1:34 Me: We are safe, it's just a video... We are safe it's just a video... (Heart missed a beat...) WE'RE NOT SAFE!
Did you file a flight plan?
Did the plane notch the cable?
посмотрел видео, запор как рукой сняло. спасибо
incident?
Corey Glimpse 1:36, but probably fake
'near miss/near collision incident' - there doesn't necessarily have to be broken bones, blood and shattered pieces of aircraft for it to an 'incident'; Soiled underwear can also be an 'incident'!
*United States Police* real
www.havkom.se/en/investigations/civil-luftfart/allvarligt-tillbud-vid-haerkeberga-den-12-oktober-2013-med-flygplanet-se-fio-av-typen-saab-mfi-15-och-en-flygskaerm-av-typen-ozone-mojo
G PMO Thank you
The overall conclusion from the study is that no serious consequences would have occurred in a collision between the aircraft and the paragliderline.
The incident was caused by the pilots flight maps lacking data on paragliding activities at Härkeberga which meant that the flight could not be planned and carried out safely. Contributing factor has been reduced visibility due to backlight conditions.
Recommendations: None
*In other words this could happen again!! and if the aircraft had been just slightly higher?! who knows what might happen.
That escaping beeping noise some sort of a sphincterometer?
Were they on the approach way for aircraft?
No.
Well that was just plane reckless behaviour ;-) I'm here all week.
Nice
Gotta give you props on that one!
Well that was close, I had an incident with a glider hatch opening upon landing. I'll post that soon!
Still waiting for that buddy
What’s the rope for
The pilot passed within 50ft of a paraglider? Forget the rope, that alone is a serious incident. If you can't see a 30ft wide canopy directly in front of you, with the sun behind you, there is cause for concern.
Я сидя на диване чуть не обосрался... (I almost pooped sitting on the sofa)
А я стоя над унитазом обосрался..вот чудеса то!
The pilot of that plane seems to be using Rick and morty Portal gun?
thought the same, doesn't matter how hard you look on the shot before lol
this is a fake video..
@@gualbertoff hey dummy read the incident report. It's real.
это лебедкой так поднимают? а какая длина троса и из чего он ?
Did the flightradar24- playback function gave you the plane registration? Close call. Years went by. All smelly stains from the trousers removed i assume.
No, he flew over us a few hours later and then we could see his registration number with the binoculars.
I saw something similar to this once from the ground. Our pilot was under tow at about 800 ft towards his 1200 ft goal before cut-a-way. Private plane came from his 6 o'clock flying illegally in the area at 1000 ft AGL level. Neither pilot could see the other. It was the scariest moment I'd ever witnessed from the ground. I still don't know how close they were? Very very close! It was so common and occurrence that it was never reported! We regularly flew outside and higher than we had permission to. Scary shit!
1:34 не благодарите
Spasibo.
@@RobertMounceOnLine Varsågod
So wherez the incident?
Was it 4 or 5 millemeters?
Holy cow that was close :o
The sailing pilot may have survived a "strike" .Does the aircraft pilot even realize the near death encounter? Imagine that rope tangled in your prop!
The cable in the prop would be the best scenario if he hit it. Slicing a wing off on the other hand.
@@Yodrop According to the report, the line would have snapped in 0,7 sec. Resulting in a negligible loss of speed and a course deviation of less than 4 deg. The course deviation would have been rectified as a jerk-back as the line snapped.
@@Nizze82 That sounds very optimistic. I would expect the line to last bit longer and to throw the plane off its course by more than 4°. Or do some damage to a wing.
The line is the weakest link in this set up. The the stronger is the more damage it does. I think in hypothetical case of infinitely strong line the plane would crash.
So... Bad maps? Has the incident caused markings to be added to the maps?
What's the beeping thing?
Variometer www.flymaster.net/livesd
If the plane is flying as low as some have suggested, why is there no shadow?...even though the sun is setting the angle should be wide enough to capture the shadow...also I could not detect the plane in the shot before...what am I missing?
Joseph Brian Shubert not wide enough to capture it
Elvis and Micheal are alive, the Earth is flat, aliens are at Roswell, humans never went to the moon, and Billy Joel plays great music. Obviously this video is yet another conspiracy since there is no shadow of the plane and it is not visible until it is. Good catch. Add it to the list.
Joseph Brian Shubert So, it’s fake?
Amazing they were able to figure out who the airplane was and investigate exactly what happend. I bet the pilot was really surprised he had no idea how close he came to possible crash. My guess is if he had hit the to line the paragliding would have just released and floated down the plane most likely would have been damaged, at best wound the cable around the prop. At worst rapped around one wing and been like a control line model airplane smashing it into the ground. The line could have also broken but my guess is those lines are very strong.
sorry for stupid question but what would happened if he hit the line? I guess the plane would survive and paraglider had schute so he would still land or am I mistaken? would it actually drag him after the plane? or would it just cut the rope?
Where??
Wow. How was it even possible you could fly in that airspace? No regulations?
the same way he is flying a parasail, class E airspace in the US, see and avoid. problem is for the plane, how do you avoid something you cant see, and the parasail, how do you avoid if you cant maneuver.
@@MrBammbalamm Tow sites are still restricted airspace, when active
Охренеть самолёт рядом с тросом прошёл ✈️🤭
What's doing the pulling?
Holy crap did you report the other pilot?
Судьба легонечко потролила👍
That could of been an RC plane ? Hard to tell , . If you don't see RC place offen in the air , you don't know what I'm talking about .. regardless it could of sucked for somebody or everyone that had contact ..!
It was a Private SE- FIO, SAAB MFI 15 Model 200Az
Pilot was 69 years old with a PPL(A) license. Flight time 3092 hours were of 2200 on this type. The pilot did not even see the line.
No, it wasn't an RC plane.
That surpasses my midair! Wow!
Did the quad get him in the air ?
It's a wonder he doesn't have whiplash from moving his head up and down
You must have your head on a flip top because you need to check that your wing is perpendicular to your direction of the tow line otherwise it gets dangerous fast.
I was being towed up and when I pulled the handle to release it didn’t work on the first pull. I think on the second pull o breaker on the side it was out of line on, making it extremely out of line in 1 second. I was turned 90 degrees and could have started diving at the ground like a stunt kite. But at that moment the tow operator disengaged the pulling and I could straighten up. Then I detached and flew down.
If it kept on going like that for more than another second I would have pulled my reserve parachute. Fortunately there was time in the day for one more tow up so I could get back on the horse, so to say.
Слава богу самолёт трос не цепанул. А то беда могла случиться
Трос бы лопнул просто
Where's that beeping sound from?
The sound comes from instrument (variometer) we use to hear if we are rising or sinking when we fly.
Why didn't he release the tow line as soon as he saw the plane?
As a former airplane pilot I felt the anxiety this paraglider pilot may have been feeling once he realized how close he was to dying and killing the occupants of that airplane.
Read the Description, They did NOT use a Weak Link.
Everyone I have ever know uses the Weak Link. Stating "Not Using Weak Link" thats just click bait.
as a former pilot, you should know that you as a plane pilot are breaking a law flying that low, and you will be considered as source of death of para glider and a occupants of a plane, not opposite, if there was a collision.
He wasn't fly as low as you think. Looks to be somewhere between 850-1000 feet, which is perfectly legal. I can explain the math if you want (350m paraglider altitude, which is about 1150 feet, and the plane looked to be around 200 feet lower. Perfectly legal)
I'm glad you're a FORMER airplane pilot, because I would imagine the paragliding canopy the guy has is visible for miles and for anyone to purposefully fly under a parachute of any kind is in my book a complete and utter idiot.
"Oof, that was 2m from the line" was what he said, for all non-nordic people. 😁
Wonder what the rules are for keeping airtraffic informed/out of the area completely
I love sweden! Jag älskar sverige
1:34 I release my end of the cable/rope.